Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/05/1994 08:00 AM STA

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             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                            
                          April 5, 1994                                        
                            8:00 a.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Al Vezey, Chairman                                            
  Representative Pete Kott, Vice Chairman                                      
  Representative Bettye Davis                                                  
  Representative Gary Davis                                                    
  Representative Harley Olberg                                                 
  Representative Fran Ulmer                                                    
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  Representative Jerry Sanders                                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  *HB 543:       "An Act relating to unvented gas space                        
                 heaters in residential buildings."                            
                                                                               
                 HELD IN COMMITTEE                                             
                                                                               
                                                                               
  SB 220:        "An Act amending schedule IA of the schedules                 
                 of controlled substances applicable to                        
                 offenses relating to controlled substances to                 
                 add the drug methcathinone, commonly                          
                 identified as `cat.'"                                         
                                                                               
                 PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH DO PASS                          
                 RECOMMENDATIONS                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
  SB 303:        "An Act relating to voter eligibility, voter                  
                 registration, and voter registration                          
                 agencies; and providing for an effective                      
                 date."                                                        
                                                                               
                 HELD IN COMMITTEE                                             
                                                                               
                                                                               
  HB 342:        "An Act extending the termination date of the                 
                 Alaska Tourism Marketing Council."                            
                                                                               
                 PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH DO PASS                          
                 RECOMMENDATIONS                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
  *HJR 63:       Relating to the membership of the Republic of                 
                 China on Taiwan in the United Nations.                        
                                                                               
                 PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH DO PASS                          
                 RECOMMENDATIONS                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
  HB 531:        "An Act relating to the existence and                         
                 functions of certain multimember state                        
                 bodies, including boards, councils,                           
                 commissions, associations, or authorities;                    
                 and providing for an effective date."                         
                                                                               
                 HELD IN COMMITTEE                                             
                                                                               
  (* First public hearing)                                                     
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  MEL KROGSENG                                                                 
  P.O. Box 3913                                                                
  Soldotna, AK  99669                                                          
  Phone:  Not given.                                                           
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on HB 543                                     
                                                                               
  KEITH KETTLER, Marketing Director                                            
  Tempco Fireplaces                                                            
  2333 Judson St.                                                              
  Longmont, Colorado  80501                                                    
  Phone:  Not given.                                                           
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported HB 543                                        
                                                                               
  SENATOR JOHNNY ELLIS                                                         
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  Alaska State Capitol, Room 9                                                 
  Juneau, AK  99811-0460                                                       
  Phone:  465-3704                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Sponsor of CSSB 220                                     
                                                                               
  MARGOT KNUTH, Assistant Attorney General                                     
  Department of Law                                                            
  P.O. Box 110300                                                              
  Juneau, AK  99811-0300                                                       
  Phone:  465-3428                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions on CSSB 220                          
                                                                               
  LAURA GLAISER, Administrative Code Coordinator                               
  Lieutenant Governor's Office                                                 
  P.O. Box 110015                                                              
  Juneau, AK  99811                                                            
  Phone:  465-4084                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT: Addressed SB 303 for the Lt. Governor's                  
                      Office, Sponsor                                          
                                                                               
  GEORGE SMITH, Deputy Director                                                
  Libraries, Archives & Museums                                                
  Department of Education                                                      
  P.O. Box 110571                                                              
  Juneau, AK  99811-0571                                                       
  Phone:  465-2910                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions on HB 531                            
                                                                               
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 543                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: UNVENTED GAS HEATERS IN RESIDENTIAL BLDGS                       
  SPONSOR(S): STATE AFFAIRS                                                    
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  04/19/92              (S)   CRA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH RM 205                  
  03/30/94      3074    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/30/94      3074    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS                                    
  04/05/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  SB 220                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: ADD "CAT" TO SCHEDULE IIA DRUG LIST                             
  SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S) ELLIS,Little; REPRESENTATIVE(S)                       
  Navarre                                                                      
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  01/03/94      2451    (S)   PREFILE RELEASED 1/4/93                          
  01/10/94      2451    (S)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/10/94      2451    (S)   STA, JUD                                         
  02/09/94              (S)   STA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH RM 205                  
  02/09/94              (S)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  02/14/94      2824    (S)   STA RPT  CS 3DP    NEW TITLE                     
  02/14/94      2824    (S)   ZERO FNS TO SB & CS PUBLISHED                    
                              (DPS, LAW)                                       
  03/14/94              (S)   JUD AT 01:30 PM BELTZ ROOM 211                   
  03/15/94      3212    (S)   JUD RPT  5DP (STA)CS                             
  03/15/94      3212    (S)   PREVIOUS ZERO FNS (DPS, LAW)                     
  03/18/94              (S)   RLS AT 00:00 AM FAHRENKAMP                       
                              ROOM 203                                         
  03/18/94              (S)   MINUTE(RLS)                                      
  03/24/94      3344    (S)   RULES TO CALENDAR  3/24/94                       
  03/24/94      3347    (S)   READ THE SECOND TIME                             
  03/24/94      3348    (S)   STA  CS ADOPTED UNAN CONSENT                     
  03/24/94      3348    (S)   ADVANCED TO THIRD READING UNAN                   
                              CONSENT                                          
  03/24/94      3348    (S)   READ THE THIRD TIME  CSSB
                              220(STA)                                         
  03/24/94      3348    (S)   PASSED Y16 N- E1 A3                              
  03/24/94      3353    (S)   TRANSMITTED TO (H)                               
  03/25/94      2959    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/25/94      2959    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, JUDICIARY                         
  03/25/94      2985    (H)   CROSS SPONSOR(S): NAVARRE                        
  04/05/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  SB 303                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: UNIFORM VOTER REGISTRATION SYSTEM                               
  SPONSOR(S): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                 
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  02/11/94      2792    (S)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  02/11/94      2792    (S)   STA, JUD, FIN                                    
  02/11/94      2792    (S)   FNS PUBLISHED (DPS, GOV,                         
                              DHSS-3, DCRA)                                    
  02/11/94      2792    (S)   ZERO FISCAL NOTE PUBLISHED                       
                              (DOE)                                            
  02/11/94      2793    (S)   GOVERNOR'S TRANSMITTAL LETTER                    
  03/02/94      3027    (S)   STA RPT  4NR                                     
  03/02/94      3027    (S)   ZERO FN PUBLISHED (REV)                          
  03/02/94      3027    (S)   PREVIOUS FNS (DPS, GOV,DHSS-3,                   
                              DCRA)                                            
  03/02/94      3027    (S)   PREVIOUS ZERO FN (DOE)                           
  03/02/94      3038    (S)   JUD REFERRAL WAIVED   Y11 N9                     
  02/22/94              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  03/02/94              (S)   STA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH RM 205                  
  03/02/94              (S)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  03/15/94      3212    (S)   FIN RPT  1DP 1DNP 5NR                            
  03/15/94      3212    (S)   PREVIOUS FNS (DPS, GOV, DHSS-3,                  
                              DCRA)                                            
  03/15/94      3212    (S)   PREVIOUS ZERO FNS (DOE, DOR)                     
  03/15/94              (S)   FIN AT 08:30 AM SENATE FIN 518                   
  03/18/94              (S)   RLS AT 00:00 AM FAHRENKAMP                       
                              ROOM 203                                         
  03/18/94              (S)   MINUTE(RLS)                                      
  03/28/94      3373    (S)   RULES RPT  1CAL 2NR  3/28/94                     
  03/28/94      3375    (S)   READ THE SECOND TIME                             
  03/28/94      3376    (S)   ADVANCED TO THIRD READING UNAN                   
                              CONSENT                                          
  03/28/94      3376    (S)   READ THE THIRD TIME  SB 303                      
  03/28/94      3376    (S)   PASSED Y11 N8 E1                                 
  03/28/94      3376    (S)   EFFECTIVE DATE PASSED Y19 N- E1                  
  03/28/94      3377    (S)   MILLER NOTICE OF                                 
                              RECONSIDERATION                                  
  03/30/94      3415    (S)   RECONSIDERATION NOT TAKEN UP                     
  03/30/94      3416    (S)   TRANSMITTED TO (H)                               
  03/31/94      3102    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/31/94      3103    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, FINANCE                           
  04/05/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 342                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: EXTEND TOURISM MARKETING COUNCIL                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) KOTT,Hudson,Ulmer                              
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  01/03/94      2017    (H)   PREFILE RELEASED                                 
  01/10/94      2017    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/10/94      2017    (H)   L&C, STATE AFFAIRS, FINANCE                      
  01/20/94              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
  01/20/94              (H)   MINUTE(L&C)                                      
  01/21/94      2122    (H)   L&C RPT  6DP                                     
  01/21/94      2122    (H)   DP:  MACKIE, HUDSON, WILLIAMS,                   
                              SITTON,                                          
  01/21/94      2122    (H)   DP:  PORTER, GREEN                               
  01/21/94      2122    (H)   -ZERO FISCAL NOTE (DCED)                         
                              1/21/94                                          
  03/12/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  03/12/94              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  04/05/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HJR 63                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: U.N. MEMBERSHIP REPUBLIC OF CHINA/TAIWAN                        
  SPONSOR(S): STATE AFFAIRS                                                    
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  03/31/94      3105    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/31/94      3105    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS                                    
  04/05/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 531                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: ELIMINATE SOME STATE MULTIMEMBER BODIES                         
  SPONSOR(S): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                 
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  03/11/94      2728    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/11/94      2728    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS                                    
  03/11/94      2728    (H)   -7 ZERO FNS (DCRA,2-DCED,CORR,                   
                              2-DOE                                            
  03/11/94      2728    (H)   DNR) 3/11/94                                     
  03/11/94      2729    (H)   GOVERNOR'S TRANSMITTAL LETTER                    
  03/29/94              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  03/29/94              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  03/31/94              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-43, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN AL VEZEY called the meeting to order at 8:03 a.m.                   
  Members present were REPRESENTATIVES G. DAVIS, OLBERG, B.                    
  DAVIS and ULMER.  A quorum was present.                                      
                                                                               
  The meeting is on teleconference with Anchorage, Fairbanks                   
  and Sitka; with offnet locations in Portland, Oregon and                     
  Arlington, Virginia.                                                         
  HB 543 - UNVENTED GAS HEATERS IN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS                       
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened HB 543 for discussion.                                 
                                                                               
  Number 027                                                                   
                                                                               
  MEL KROGSENG testified on her own behalf on HB 543.  She                     
  stated HB 543 was introduced because it was learned that                     
  unvented heaters, which were once permitted, are now banned.                 
  The 1991 Mechanical Code is now the standards basis for                      
  heaters.                                                                     
                                                                               
  MS. KROGSENG stated the oxygen depletion system which came                   
  about 14 years ago is now being put on unvented heaters,                     
  thereby making them a much safer product.  She noted                         
  legislation is being introduced and implemented across the                   
  United States to allow the installation of unvented heaters                  
  that have passed tests for certain standards.  The American                  
  National Standards Institute (ANSI) developed the standards.                 
  According to the U.S. Consumer Products Commission they are                  
  a much safer product than vented heaters.  This is primarily                 
  because the vents on vented heaters are frequently                           
  improperly installed and maintained; therefore, unvented                     
  heaters are much safer.  She stated HB 543 would be good for                 
  the people of Alaska because the heaters are about 98                        
  percent efficient and there would be less propane to haul                    
  for those who regularly do.  Unvented heaters are much more                  
  cost effective because heat is not lost as it would be with                  
  a vented system.                                                             
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY brought to the committee's attention a                        
  memorandum dated May 18, 1983, from the U.S. Consumer                        
  Products Safety Commission (CPSC).  He recognized unvented                   
  heaters were not a revolutionary new technology.  The memo                   
  points out, in 1979, there were an estimated 130 deaths out                  
  of an estimated 3.25 million vented heaters in use.  In                      
  1979, there were 40 deaths out of an estimated 5.25 million                  
  unvented heaters in use.  He stated these facts imply that                   
  unvented heaters that meet the ANSI standards are safer than                 
  vented heaters.                                                              
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY moved to the Portland offnet teleconference                   
  site.                                                                        
                                                                               
  KEITH KETTLER, MARKETING DIRECTOR, TEMPCO FIREPLACES,                        
  supported HB 543.  He began Tempco manufactures vent free                    
  gas appliances.  He stated vent free heaters are                             
  manufactured throughout the U.S.  The unvented heaters come                  
  from an established industry and they have been manufactured                 
  with the oxygen depletion sensor (ODS) since 1981.  He noted                 
  since 1981, 2.6 million vent free appliances equipped with                   
  the ODS have been sold in the U.S.  The ODS is a requirement                 
  of ANSI which they are tested under.  Based on data from the                 
  CPSC, since 1981, there has never been a documented carbon                   
  monoxide related fatality from a vent free appliance with an                 
  ODS.  He noted the vent free gas heaters manufactured in the                 
  U.S. before 1981 were not equipped with the ODS.  He stated,                 
  "The ODS has done to the gas industry, what circuit breakers                 
  have done to electrical safety in our homes."  He expressed                  
  CPSC determined the risk carbon monoxide poisoning is six                    
  times higher from vented appliances, than from vent free.                    
  Tempco does, however, also manufacture vented appliances.                    
                                                                               
  MR. KETTLER referred the ANSI Z2111.2 standard which                         
  unvented heaters are tested under.  The American Gas                         
  Association tests all of the products in accordance with                     
  this standard.  He stated the standard is written by                         
  organizations such as the Consumers Union, International                     
  Association of Plumbing & Mechanical Officials, underwriters                 
  labs, National Fire Protection Association, United States                    
  Consumer Products Safety Commission, National Safety                         
  Council, etc...  He emphasized the standard was not written                  
  by the industry.                                                             
                                                                               
  MR. KETTLER stated 2.6 million vent free heaters have now                    
  sold in the U.S., and they are selling at a rate of about                    
  300,000 a year.  Every building code in the U.S., except the                 
  one used in Alaska, allows vent free appliances.  He added                   
  when he was in Alaska in the fall of 1993, he met with                       
  building officials in Anchorage, Kenai and Palmer.  Based on                 
  this trip, these officials have provided him with letters                    
  that specifically allow unvented heaters as an exception to                  
  the Uniform Mechanical Code which they adopted.                              
                                                                               
  Number 221                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY questioned if unvented heaters were                           
  specifically prohibited in the Uniform Mechanical Code.                      
                                                                               
  MR. KETTLER answered yes, Section 807(c) of the Uniform                      
  Mechanical Code.  He noted the building officials used                       
  Section 105, referred to as the alternate materials clause,                  
  that allows them to approve alternate materials that deem to                 
  be equivalent based on suitability, effectiveness, fire                      
  resistance and safety.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 243                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if HB 543 addresses unvented heaters                    
  only in residential buildings.                                               
                                                                               
  MR. KETTLER affirmed CHAIRMAN VEZEY.  Sanitariums,                           
  hospitals, hotels, dormitories and institutional settings                    
  are not included.  Only residences.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 253                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he believed HB 543 was modifying the                   
  Uniform Plumbing Code because fuel gas piping is considered                  
  plumbing.                                                                    
                                                                               
  MR. KETTLER clarified he believed fuel gas piping refers to                  
  the gas pipe that brings the gas from the meter or another                   
  appliance, to the fireplace.  He stated the Uniform                          
  Mechanical Code (UMC) particularly addresses vent free                       
  heaters.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 270                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY looked up the definition of a plumbing system                 
  under the Uniform Plumbing Code (UPC).  He noted it includes                 
  fuel gas piping, water heaters and vents.  He could not find                 
  where it states the appliance.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 282                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. KETTLER explained the UMC, Section 807(c), refers to                     
  vent free heaters not being allowed in residential                           
  occupancies.  He referred to the UPC and stated, it is used                  
  by many regions where the UMC is also used.  The UPC is                      
  written by the International Association of Plumbing &                       
  Mechanical Officials (IAPMO).  IAPMO is a member of the ANSI                 
  committee that writes the standard for vent free heaters as                  
  proposed under HB 543.  He believed Alaska adopted a good                    
  building code that has not progressed with science and                       
  technology.  Being from Colorado which applies the same                      
  uniform codes, they have been doing "truckloads" of vent                     
  free fireplaces and heaters as an exception to the code                      
  based on their performance record.  He explained there is no                 
  science or history to support the continued ban of an                        
  appliance which is the most efficient and safe option on the                 
  market today.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 307                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated his questions were more directed                       
  towards the statutes because HB 543 dealt with a more                        
  complex area.  He stated the intent is to amend the state                    
  plumbing standards to provide that unvented gas space                        
  heaters are allowed in residential buildings.  He questioned                 
  whether HB 543 was amending the correct statute.                             
                                                                               
  Number 321                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GARY DAVIS inquired if the ODS was in the                     
  piping or in the furnace itself.                                             
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY answered the ODS is in the furnace itself.                    
                                                                               
  Number 329                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE HARLEY OLBERG pointed out on page 1,                          
  subparagraph 2,  "state building code" means, (A) is                         
  building standards, (B) is mechanical standards, (C) is                      
  plumbing standards and (D) is electrical standards.  He                      
  stated HB 543 is altering (C) by adding a new subsection,                    
  Section 2, which allows vent free heaters.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 336                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY agreed.  He wondered why HB 543 was trying to                 
  modify the UPC, if they were actually trying to modify the                   
  UMC.                                                                         
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, due to the questions about which code should                 
  be modified, decided HB 543 would be HELD IN COMMITTEE until                 
  Thursday.  He noted amending the UPC was fine, but the UMC                   
  in another statute, would also need to be amended.                           
                                                                               
  Number 353                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG asked why the Department of Public                     
  Safety (DPS) would adopt the UMC.                                            
                                                                               
  Number 356                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY answered the DPS administers all of the                       
  Uniform Fire Code/Building Code standards.                                   
  CSSB 220 - ADD "CAT" TO SCHEDULE IIA DRUG LIST                               
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened CSSB 220 for discussion.                               
                                                                               
  Number 368                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR JOHNNY ELLIS, SPONSOR, addressed CSSB 220.  He said,                 
  CSSB 220 proposes to criminalize, by adding to the Schedule                  
  IA of the list of controlled substances, a relatively new                    
  designer drug known as methcathinone.  The street name is                    
  "CAT."  He said he was shocked when he read police reports                   
  from Michigan and Wisconsin about the trouble experienced                    
  with CAT.  He noted the designer drug bill passed 3-4 years                  
  ago did not cover methcathinone.  He emphasized CAT is                       
  becoming a problem in the United States.                                     
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS explained "KHOT" is a drug indigenous people                   
  in Somalia have used in religious ceremonies and as a                        
  recreational drug for hundreds, if not thousands of years.                   
  He noted there was concern that some of the younger troops                   
  of the American military might be using KHOT during the                      
  Somalia operation.                                                           
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS stated CAT can be made in a lab very easily                    
  from over the counter substances, like Drano and battery                     
  acid.  The recipe is relatively simple, likewise the                         
  procedure.  CAT is the illegal drug of choice in the former                  
  Soviet Union.  Police reports indicate CAT is now becoming a                 
  problem in the Seattle area.  Therefore, he expressed                        
  concern that CAT is anywhere from a day to a year, from                      
  being a problem in Alaska, especially since our laws are not                 
  up to date on this subject.                                                  
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS explained CAT is more addictive than heroine                   
  and more powerful than cocaine.  He stated in previous                       
  committees there has been no discussion of CAT not being an                  
  appropriate drug for criminalization.  He urged action on HB
  543 as it has received very strong support from the                          
  Administration in previous hearings.  Linda Adams, from                      
  Alaskans for Drug Free Youth, has testified in previous                      
  committees.  A Juneau police officer, presently unavailable,                 
  also testified.                                                              
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS stated the passage of CSHB 220 is very                         
  important because the demographics for CAT in Alaska are                     
  "just perfect."  He was disappointed that Alaska had not                     
  imposed stricter penalties for the use of crack cocaine                      
  sooner than it did when it saw the problem arising.  He                      
  stated he would hate for Alaska to make the same mistake                     
  twice.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 428                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY inquired if SENATOR ELLIS mentioned CAT as a                  
  naturally occurring substance.                                               
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS responded KHOT naturally occurred in Africa,                   
  however, methcathinone is the manufactured equivalent.                       
                                                                               
  Number 435                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY inquired how easy would CAT be to make in                     
  Alaska.                                                                      
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS answered very easy, because methcathinone has                  
  a simple recipe.  CAT does not come from a plant.                            
                                                                               
  Number 453                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY questioned the technical spelling of CAT on                   
  line 6.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 460                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE FRAN ULMER directed CHAIRMAN VEZEY to the                     
  article from Drug Abuse Update which shows the same                          
  spelling.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 463                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified he questioned the derivative                        
  spelling, whereby he believed the second word should be                      
  spelled "phenylpropanal" instead of "phenylpropan."                          
                                                                               
  Number 470                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS stated MARGOT KNUTH had spoken with the people                 
  at the lab because there had been questions as to the                        
  spelling.  He noted corrections were made, therefore a                       
  committee substitute was prepared.                                           
                                                                               
  Number 474                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY commented methcathinone was a very complex                    
  chemical and he could foresee if CSHB 220 was passed into                    
  law, a person being exonerated because the description was                   
  incorrect.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 477                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG pointed out in the packet under                        
  enrolled HB 4103, which he assumed was a U.S. statute, the                   
  word in question was spelled the same way.  "Methylamino-1-                  
  phenylpropan-1-one."                                                         
                                                                               
  Number 489                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he believed the copy of the article                    
  was of poor quality.  He told SENATOR ELLIS he would take                    
  his word for it.  He noticed the enrollment of HB 4103 was                   
  from the State of Michigan.  He asked if it was against                      
  federal law to distribute CAT.                                               
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS answered he believed it was.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 512                                                                   
                                                                               
  MARGOT KNUTH, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, DEPARTMENT OF LAW,                 
  answered questions on CSSB 220.  She answered it is against                  
  federal law to distribute CAT.  CSSB 220 is patterned after                  
  the Schedule I federal list, and would be on Schedule IA in                  
  Alaska.  The specific name of CAT is copied after the                        
  federal schedule list.  She would follow up on CHAIRMAN                      
  VEZEY's concern.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 522                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY agreed there was plenty of time to check the                  
  spelling.  He inquired if being on the controlled substance                  
  list, CAT would carry the same penalties under federal law                   
  as heroine, etc...                                                           
                                                                               
  MS. KNUTH replied correct.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 527                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the advantage of making CAT a violation                 
  of state law.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 529                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. KNUTH answered if the offense takes place within Alaska,                 
  the state is expected to deal with it.  The federal                          
  government only becomes involved with importations and                       
  matters of crossing state boundaries.  If CAT was not dealt                  
  with in state law, Alaska will not have any control.                         
                                                                               
  Number 534                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY commented the feds do not care if Alaska uses                 
  it or not.  They only care if it is imported.                                
                                                                               
  MS. KNUTH responded the federal governments' enforcement                     
  jurisdiction with cocaine, for example, is a violation of                    
  federal law.  However, at a local level, Alaska does not                     
  have federal prosecutions for possession or distribution                     
  unless there is a certain quantity, whereby they get                         
  involved.  She stated there are multiple layers of                           
  governmental enforcement when controlled substances are                      
  involved.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 544                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE BETTYE DAVIS moved to move CSHB 220 from                      
  committee with individual recommendations and attached zero                  
  fiscal note.                                                                 
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the committee secretary to call the                     
  roll.                                                                        
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR:      REPRESENTATIVES VEZEY, ULMER, B. DAVIS, G.                    
                 DAVIS, OLBERG.                                                
  ABSENT:        REPRESENTATIVES KOTT, SANDERS.                                
                                                                               
  MOTION PASSED                                                                
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY called for a recess at 8:40 a.m.  The meeting                 
  resumed at 8:46 a.m.                                                         
  SB 303 - UNIFORM VOTER REGISTRATION SYSTEM                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened SB 303 for discussion.  He stated SB
  303 is sponsored by the House Rules Committee, by request of                 
  the governor.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 565                                                                   
                                                                               
  LAURA GLAISER, ADMINISTRATIVE CODE COORDINATOR, LIEUTENANT                   
  GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, addressed SB 303.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 566                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated the 1993 National Voter Registration                   
  Act (NVRA) only applies to federal elections.  He clarified                  
  the administration does not want to maintain a two tier                      
  voter registration system.                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER affirmed CHAIRMAN VEZEY.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 576                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the penalties for failure to comply                     
  with the NVRA.                                                               
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER directed CHAIRMAN VEZEY to the attorney                          
  general's opinion in the packet.  She quoted, "The United                    
  States Department of Justice and various interest groups                     
  have indicated an intent to vigorously pursue all available                  
  legal remedies if the state fails to implement the Act to                    
  their satisfaction."  She added Alaska has been threatened                   
  with a lawsuit by the Department of Justice. She stated                      
  because Alaska is a voting rights act state, [we] believe it                 
  will be a "red flag" if Alaska does not turn in its change                   
  of laws to bring itself into compliance.  They will look for                 
  Alaska's changes.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 587                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked, if they sued Alaska, what would be the                 
  outcome.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 588                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER replied the concern of the Administration and                    
  she believed REPRESENTATIVE ULMER as well, is that our                       
  chances for being successful in court were not very good.                    
  If in fact the state does lose, they were concerned the                      
  federal courts would ask for the implementation laws much                    
  more stringent.                                                              
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER commented Alaska has met the spirit of the NVRA,                 
  and they believe with an 80 percent voter registration                       
  within Alaska that we are already doing a good job.  She                     
  believed Alaska's election laws are clean, but a few changes                 
  need to be made.  SB 303 makes those simple changes to bring                 
  Alaska into compliance with the NVRA.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 597                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified if the government were to take                      
  Alaska to court the only area they could address would be                    
  voting in federal elections.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 600                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER said correct.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 601                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY inquired why other agencies were not asked to                 
  submit a fiscal note on SB 303.                                              
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER responded it was very clear in SB 303 as to                      
  which agencies would be named; therefore, those agencies                     
  that knew they would not be named felt no reason to submit a                 
  fiscal note.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 608                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked what all the fiscal notes added up to.                  
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered $149,400.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 612                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified $149,400 was per year with                          
  escalation.  He asked what the penalty would be for                          
  violating the NVRA.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 613                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER responded, in discussions with Department of                     
  Justice and the Federal Election Commission, they only                       
  explained the lawsuit and how they force Alaska into                         
  compliance.  Each letter of the NVRA would have to be met.                   
  She could not answer as to what the cost to Alaska would be.                 
                                                                               
  Number 618                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked for a sectional analysis.                               
                                                                               
  Number 620                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated Section 2 is to comply with Section 5(d),                 
  NVRA, which "requires states to allow a change of address                    
  form for a driver's license to serve as a change of address                  
  form for voter registration."  People are now allowed to                     
  notify the director, in writing, of a change of voting                       
  residence.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 630                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated from his interpretation, if the                        
  address is changed on a driver's license, then the Division                  
  of Elections would get that information and change the                       
  address on the voter registration.                                           
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER replied correct, but in addition, rather than                    
  filling out a complete voter registration application, only                  
  notification by writing is required.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 639                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY inquired if this was the section requiring                    
  that a change of driver's license address serve as a change                  
  of address for voter registration.                                           
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered in this particular section, no.                         
                                                                               
  Number 645                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked what information would be required on                   
  the letter sent in.                                                          
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER responded the previous address and the new                       
  address.  She clarified because the NVRA the state can no                    
  longer require witnessing or an affidavit.  Executing an                     
  affidavit on a form provided is removed from law.  She noted                 
  this law already needs to be corrected because the language                  
  to "execute an affidavit" is incorrect.  The state requires                  
  witnessing.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 654                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked for the definition of affidavit MS.                     
  GLAISER was using.                                                           
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered an affidavit is that which is described                 
  in Section 9 of statute.  She was not familiar with the                      
  legal definition.                                                            
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER outlined Section 3.  The summary states, "People                 
  convicted of felonies involving moral turpitude under state                  
  or federal law may not vote in state, federal, or municipal                  
  elections."  Current statute provides for cancellation of                    
  voter registration for persons convicted of felonies only                    
  under state law.  With SB 303, Alaska will be noticed                        
  through the federal courts of those people convicted of                      
  felonies in federal court so they can also be removed.                       
  Currently, a person serving time for a federal felony could                  
  vote absentee because the state does not have records of                     
  federal felons.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 668                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if she knew of any of those instances                   
  happening.                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER responded, no.  Section 4 permits voter                          
  registration by mail by adding the language "or through a                    
  voter registration agency."                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 680                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG clarified this change would mean the                   
  state would not know whether that person exists or not.                      
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER replied correct, if the registration comes                       
  through the mail.                                                            
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG stated the registration did not have                   
  to be notarized or witnessed.                                                
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER replied correct, witnessing or formal                            
  authentication can no longer be required.                                    
                                                                               
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  Number 010                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified anyone could send in their voter                    
  registration by mail and be registered.  Identification at                   
  the polls would be required.                                                 
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER said that was correct.                                           
                                                                               
  Number 021                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG interjected unless the person voted                    
  absentee.  He stated the committee designated this section                   
  the "Chicago provision" last time it was discussed.                          
                                                                               
  Number 032                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER asked to go work through the internal                   
  process the Division of Elections has, or will have, that                    
  might quell concerns people have about the "Chicago                          
  provision."  She asked if there were cross checks done                       
  possibly with the permanent fund dividend list or social                     
  security numbers.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 050                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated signatures are verified on an absentee                    
  ballot and regulations will have to be implemented to                        
  provide further checks.  She emphasized if someone is                        
  willing to register dead people, they will find two                          
  witnesses to do it presently.  The current voter                             
  registration form only asks that the witnesses sign their                    
  name.  She noted there is no request to print the name                       
  underneath, or state a social security number.  With current                 
  practice, there is no way to verify the witnesses are true                   
  and real.  She stated the crime is to sign your name                         
  falsely.  The witnesses are not committing a crime.                          
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER continued the sectional analysis with Section 5.                 
  Section 5 "designates the following state agencies as voter                  
  registration agencies:                                                       
       1) Division of Motor Vehicles                                           
       2) Division of Health & Social Services that provide                    
       public assistance through the food stamp program,                       
       Medicaid, Special Supplemental Food Program for Women,                  
       Infants, and Children (WIC), and Aid to Families With                   
       Dependent Children (AFDC) program.                                      
       3) Community & Regional Affairs/Division of Municipal                   
       and Regional Assistance                                                 
       4) All recruitment offices of the Armed Forces of the                   
       United States located in Alaska                                         
       5) State-funded agencies that primarily provide                         
       services to persons with disabilities                                   
       6) Other agencies that may include:  other state and                    
       local agencies, federal and nongovernmental with                        
       agreement from offices"                                                 
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER noted the only addition to the federal law was                   
  the addition of Community & Regional Affairs.  This was                      
  suggested because other states are being required to have                    
  bilingual voter registration forms. Therefore, since                         
  Alaska's language differences are oral and not written, they                 
  felt people could be helped who may have oral difficulties                   
  in registering to vote and having their questions answered.                  
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER addressed Section 6.  Section 6 "removes                         
  reference to consideration by the director of elections of                   
  witnessing of an application for voter registration by mail                  
  in determining the validity of applications from certain                     
  residents of single-precinct municipalities or established                   
  villages."  Technical change.  She noted many registrations                  
  are now sent back simply because someone fails to get a                      
  witness.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 149                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY inquired if witnessing was interpreted as a                   
  form of notarization.                                                        
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered no, the phrase is "or other formal                      
  authentication."  Witnessing is defined as formal                            
  authentication.                                                              
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER continued with Section 7.  Section 7 allows the                  
  director to adopt regulations to implement the requirements                  
  of the NVRA.  The storing of confidential reports that are                   
  taken in voter registration agencies will be defined through                 
  the regulatory process.  She noted (b), in registering by                    
  mail, adds "voter registration agencies" to those who will                   
  furnish forms at no cost to the voter.                                       
                                                                               
  Number 187                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified his interpretation as NVRA requires                 
  for federal elections that the state force voter                             
  registration forms on individuals, and not ask.                              
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER responded the registration at the Department of                  
  Motor Vehicles must be simultaneous, therefore a form will                   
  be filled out for voter registration at the same time the                    
  form for the driver's license will be.  If that person                       
  chooses to not sign the voter registration form it is                        
  considered a declination.  In other agencies such as C&RA, a                 
  formal declination voter registration will have to be                        
  signed.  This response is kept confidential.                                 
                                                                               
  Number 208                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked how the information would be                            
  transferred to the Division of Elections (DOE).                              
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered electronically.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 211                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if the DMV database would be tied into                  
  the DOE database.                                                            
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER said, yes.                                                       
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated currently DMV is very restrictive on                   
  access to its database.  He asked if DMV records would                       
  become readily accessible public record.                                     
                                                                               
  Number 219                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered the information transferred to the DOE                  
  is only theirs, and the records will only be as accessible                   
  as they are now.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 225                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY questioned if all the software and                            
  transmission facilities were going to be engineered for                      
  $90,000, as shown on the fiscal note.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 233                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER responded she was not familiar with the                          
  negotiations between the DMV and DOE; however, they have                     
  worked very hard to help come into compliance.  She could                    
  not account for the cost.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 241                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified the other agencies will have a                      
  paper form.  Procedure not electronic.                                       
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER affirmed CHAIRMAN VEZEY.  The cost of the forms                  
  is provided through the DOE.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 247                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER submitted the information DOE and DMV                   
  needs is already similar.  She felt the process would not be                 
  too complicated.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 254                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER pointed out some states already have this split                  
  screen ability.  These states were present at the forum she                  
  attended and they stated the process was very simple.                        
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER addressed Section 8.  Section 8 includes voting                  
  after change of name, registration and amendment or transfer                 
  of registration.  Section 8 removes the language [for                        
  failure to vote in prior elections], the voter shall re-                     
  register and the registration is effective for the next                      
  election that occurs at least [may not be made later than]                   
  30 days after registration [preceding an election].  This                    
  change brings the state into compliance with Section 8(b)(2)                 
  of the NVRA.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 280                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified there will be no purging of records                 
  due to failure to vote.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 282                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER corrected there will be; however, the DOE will                   
  notice a person.  For example, if a person registered to                     
  vote January 2, 1990, the person would be sent a purge                       
  notice in January 1992 if he/she had not voted.  The person                  
  must then have respond within ninety days; failure to do so                  
  would inactivate them.   She noted there would have been a                   
  primary, general and possibly a municipal election before                    
  the 1992 purge notice.  Once a person is inactivated he/she                  
  is still in the master computer system, but no longer on the                 
  precinct list.  The person remains there until 1995, at                      
  which time they are dropped.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 297                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified there is five years.  He had                        
  thought three.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 300                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated the first purge notice would ask the                      
  person to respond before the next primary.  Any effort to                    
  participate as a voter of the state would bring an inactive                  
  person to the current list.  If the person does not respond                  
  to the fist notice, he/she will not be dropped from the                      
  master list until after the second general election, 1997.                   
  This suits NVRA.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 335                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified the drop year would now be 1997                     
  instead of 1995, leaving the person on either the precinct                   
  or master list for seven years.  He questioned if federal                    
  law requires a seven year purge system.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 339                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER directed to the definition of "general" and                      
  "primary."  She affirmed CHAIRMAN VEZEY.                                     
                                                                               
  Number 343                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG clarified at the of six years, if this                 
  person signs a petition, they would be on the list for 13                    
  years.                                                                       
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER replied correct.  The process repeats.                           
                                                                               
  Number 349                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified if they went to a polling place                     
  they would not be on the registration list.                                  
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER affirmed CHAIRMAN VEZEY.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 352                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated they would vote a question ballot.                     
                                                                               
  Number 353                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER said correct.  She noted the other concern in                    
  the NVRA was the "fail safe" program.  Alaska is ahead                       
  because it has question ballots, whereby those not on a                      
  precinct list are still counted because they are on a master                 
  list.                                                                        
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER addressed Section 9.  Section 9 changes the                      
  negative connotations in current law regarding the word                      
  "cancelled."  The language added, voters whose registration                  
  are not inactive and all voters whose names are required to                  
  be placed on the list by AS 15.07.070(c) and (d).  She noted                 
  the language in current statute gives a cutoff date for when                 
  DOE is supposed to be adding names.  Therefore, if DOE                       
  receives applications now, they can add them to the list up                  
  until the computer time frame cuts off for printing.  DOE                    
  would now be able to add names a lot longer.  She explained                  
  the 30 day cutoff was increasing the chance for question                     
  ballots.                                                                     
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated Section 10 deals with voter list                          
  maintenance.  Section 10 explains the inactive list due to                   
  lack of voting.  She noted the change with 30 days and                       
  calendar years is to make the language consistent.                           
  Paragraph (c), Section 10, substitutes bureau for [office]                   
  of vital statistics.  Paragraph (d), Section 10, describes                   
  the notice that will be sent as defined in NVRA, Section                     
  8(d)(2).  She pointed out the seven year process is gained                   
  through Section 10(d)(3) of SB 303.                                          
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated Section 11 adds the director is                           
  responsible for the coordination of state responsibilities                   
  under 42 U.S.C. 1993 (National Voter Registration Act of                     
  1993.)  The director will be responsible for the reporting                   
  required by the Federal Election Commission, coordination of                 
  the statistics available through H&SS and DMV.                               
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated Section 12 is changed to read, (b) A                      
  person whose registration is inactive [has been cancelled]                   
  and who votes a questioned or absentee ballot shall have                     
  either ballot counted if...                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 427                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked why "cancelled" needed to be changed to                 
  "inactive."  A person who is cancelled cannot vote.                          
                                                                               
  Number 430                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER replied correct.  The people who are inactive                    
  are on the master list; therefore a question ballot can be                   
  checked against it.  They used to be dropped.                                
                                                                               
  Number 432                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified being inactive, does not mean they                  
  have already been cancelled.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 434                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER agreed.  The law is being changed because NVRA                   
  says the state cannot just cancel due to lack of voting.                     
  This pertains to voters not on an official registration                      
  list.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 441                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY inquired what would happen to people whose                    
  registration has been cancelled.  Would they vote also?                      
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered, no.  The person has to be registered                   
  to vote for the two most recent general elections, which                     
  would move them back on the list and they would only be                      
  inactive.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 457                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked what happens to those who are                           
  cancelled.  He clarified a person would not stay on the                      
  voter registration list in perpetuity.                                       
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER agreed, however, she was not familiar with the                   
  whole section so she could not answer the question.                          
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated Section 13 defines the voter registration                 
  agency as an agency designated in or under AS 15.07.055.                     
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated Section 14 adds the division of motor                     
  vehicles shall serve as a voter registration agency to the                   
  extent required by state and federal law, including the NVRA                 
  and there will be simultaneous application for voter                         
  registration and driver's licenses, identifications, and                     
  registrations.                                                               
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated Section 15 defines those sections within                  
  H&SS that shall comply with the NVRA.                                        
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated Section 16 states C&RA will act as a                      
  voter registration agency and will receive applications.                     
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER stated Section 17 allows the director of DOE to                  
  proceed to adopt regulations to implement to the changes in                  
  the NVRA.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 491                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY noticed SB 303 has an immediate effective                     
  date.  He questioned the two-thirds vote from both houses.                   
  He inquired how the Senate voted.                                            
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered the Senate voted unanimous for the                      
  effective date.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 499                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY inquired about the possibility of a dual                      
  system.  He stated Alaska's current registration system is                   
  legal by all standards for state electives.  He commented if                 
  Alaska were to adopt the South Dakota standard for federal                   
  elections it would eliminate $140,000 a year in expenses.                    
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER responded the NVRA said Alaska had to be in                      
  compliance before it was signed into law by the President.                   
  Therefore, we could not go back and make changes and then be                 
  in compliance.  She stated the Federal Election Commission                   
  and Department of Justice were very clear that any changes                   
  made now would not be viewed as bringing Alaska into                         
  compliance.  A state is exempted only if its law was in                      
  effect continuously on and after March 11.                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY commented Alaska was trying to get exempt.                    
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG clarified CHAIRMAN VEZEY's question                    
  for MS. GLAISER.  He questioned why the South Dakota system                  
  cannot be used for federal elections only.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 526                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered Alaska would have to implement a dual                   
  system, whereby Alaska could require witnessing, but it                      
  would still have to come into compliance with NVRA.  It                      
  would require two registration forms to be signed and a two                  
  different databases.                                                         
                                                                               
  Number 531                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY commented the extreme example of a dual                       
  system would be the existing state system with a totally                     
  wide open federal elections systems, such as that in South                   
  Dakota.  Anyone who goes into a poll can vote in a federal                   
  election.  He asked if this would bring Alaska into                          
  compliance.                                                                  
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered no, because South Dakota had its system                 
  in place before March 11.  Changing Alaska's state law for a                 
  federal election does not meet the intent of the NVRA.                       
                                                                               
  Number 537                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER clarified there were certain types of                   
  procedures that had to previously been in place, such as the                 
  South Dakota system.  She added there probably is a way to                   
  structure a dual system, not using South Dakota.  She                        
  questioned if this would not be much more expensive than SB
  303 proposes.  She felt a dual system would be much more                     
  time consuming and complex.                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 550                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER agreed.  A dual system could be set up, but it                   
  would mean an increase to the current $242,000 contract with                 
  Department of Administration which maintains only one                        
  system.  The registration program would have to be redone                    
  for an estimated cost of $300,000 to $400,000.  She                          
  emphasized no state in the union is setting up a dual system                 
  because of cost and confusion to voters.  Other states need                  
  to make greater changes than Alaska does.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 567                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated, from his interpretation, NVRA                         
  mandates there be a registration system to meet its                          
  standards.                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER replied if the state had no registration system                  
  prior to March 11, 1993, the state would be exempt.  Being                   
  able to simply walk into a poll and vote, it does not hinder                 
  a person from registering to vote.  Some states' voter                       
  registration systems do hinder people to vote; therefore,                    
  NVRA tries to make it very simple to register to vote.  No                   
  structure is already simple.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 584                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified the system cannot be opened.                        
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER replied, from the Department of Justice,                         
  correct.                                                                     
                                                                               
  (REPRESENTATIVE KOTT joined the meeting at 9:34 a.m.)                        
                                                                               
  Number 588                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG interjected opening the system is                      
  exactly what SB 303 is doing.  SB 303 is changing Alaska's                   
  system which did not exist prior to March 11, 1993.  He                      
  believed MS. GLAISER was saying that Alaska cannot just let                  
  anyone who comes to the polls vote.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 593                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER responded this was the direction from the                        
  Department of Justice.  She explained they cannot promise                    
  the passage of SB 303 would be enough or that they will not                  
  still take the state to court.  She could not guarantee that                 
  changing to the South Dakota system now would prevent the                    
  state from being sued.  The option was to implement the                      
  changes provided for in SB 303.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 603                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he would like to hear more about a                     
  possible dual system to avoid spending an extra $140,000 a                   
  year.  He noted if Alaska allowed anyone to vote in a                        
  federal election, he did not see how it could be in                          
  violation of a law, in terms of restricting a person's right                 
  to vote.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 609                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG clarified there was no guarantee the                   
  proposed changes by SB 303 would suit the Department of                      
  Justice.                                                                     
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER answered correct.  With the most stringent                       
  interpretation of NVRA they could still find something                       
  wrong.  She believed the spirit of NVRA would be met by SB
  303, and with its passage, Alaska would have a case because                  
  it registers through the permanent fund dividend program, it                 
  has 80 percent registration, and there was very high turn                    
  out in 1992.  The Department of Justice would not review the                 
  draft of SB 303.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 620                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY said to REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG that Alaska is                  
  one of the federal government requires pre-clearance of                      
  voter laws.  SB 303 could not be implemented until it was                    
  cleared by the Department of Justice.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 624                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER noted that Section 4 of the NVRA in the                 
  packets, clarifies who it does not apply to.  She stated                     
  NVRA does not apply to states that did not have a                            
  registration system before March 11, 1993.  She emphasized                   
  there was no provision that says if a state that later makes                 
  those changes would be exempt.  Therefore, that is why the                   
  Department of Justice could not answer Alaska's questions.                   
  She noted NVRA gives the states until January 1, 1995, to                    
  comply.                                                                      
                                                                               
  MS. GLAISER commented she would try to get more information                  
  for Thursday.                                                                
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY held SB 303 in committee.                                     
  HB 342 - EXTEND TOURISM MARKETING COUNCIL                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened HB 342.  He noticed HB 342 passed from                 
  the Labor & Commerce Committee with unanimous do pass                        
  recommendations.  He stated there had been considerable                      
  testimony in 1993 on a similar bill.  He noted HB 342 would                  
  extend the Alaska Tourism Marketing Council until December                   
  30, 1998.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 658                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER moved to pass HB 342 from committee                     
  with individual recommendations, asking unanimous consent.                   
                                                                               
  Number 664                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the committee secretary to call the                     
  roll.                                                                        
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR:      REPRESENTATIVE VEZEY, KOTT, ULMER, B. DAVIS,                  
                 G. DAVIS, OLBERG.                                             
  ABSENT:        REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS.                                       
                                                                               
  MOTION PASSED                                                                
  HJR 63 - UNITED NATIONS MEMBERSHIP FOR THE REPUBLIC OF                       
  CHINA/TAIWAN                                                                 
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened HJR 63 for discussion.                                 
                                                                               
  Number 674                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT commented his wife from Taiwan, had                 
  meant to join the committee to testify.  He conveyed for her                 
  that HJR 63 was a very good idea and they should be                          
  readmitted.  He believed they have proven themselves                         
  politically and economically.  They would be providing                       
  themselves as an example to other nations as to what to do,                  
  rather than what not to do.  He stated they are recognized                   
  as a powerhouse.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 686                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY pointed out HJR 63 states they are the 20                     
  largest economy in the world.                                                
                                                                               
  Number 691                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER added, when she was mayor of Juneau,                    
  she had the opportunity to visit Taiwan as part of a group.                  
  She was very well treated and impressed by the schools,                      
  health care facilities, art and industry.  She noted they                    
  had a very positive attitude toward the United States and                    
  they wanted to develop a positive relationship.                              
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-44, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 002                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT moved to pass HJR 63 from committee with                 
  individual recommendations with attached zero fiscal note,                   
  asking unanimous consent.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 005                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the committee secretary to call the                     
  roll.                                                                        
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR:      REPRESENTATIVES VEZEY, KOTT, ULMER, B. DAVIS,                 
                 G. DAVIS, OLBERG.                                             
  ABSENT:        REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS.                                       
                                                                               
  MOTION PASSED                                                                
  HB 531 - ELIMINATE SOME MULTIMEMBER BODIES                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, under bills previously heard, opened HB 531                  
  for discussion.  He noted the committee had received the                     
  committee substitute which incorporates the amendment put                    
  forth by REPRESENTATIVE ULMER.  The amendment provides,                      
  "Artifacts, natural history specimens, art objects,                          
  collections or other items, materials, or properties that                    
  relate to the history of Alaska and are appropriate for                      
  preservation in the state museum of a value of $5,000                        
  [$1,000] or more, may not be acquired by purchase, gift or                   
  exchange,...without the written approval of the committee."                  
  He repeated from the last meeting that he had suggested                      
  $10,000.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 079                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG stated he thought HB 531 was deciding                  
  whether or not the committee would exist.                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY replied that was in the original HB 531.  The                 
  committee adopted this amendment on Thursday.                                
                                                                               
  Number 097                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER clarified other than changing the                       
  threshold from $1,000 to $5,000, reducing the amount of                      
  questions that had to be presented to the committee, the                     
  amendment stated the committee would never have to have a                    
  face to face meeting.  The meetings may be by                                
  teleconference, thereby saving the travel expense.  The                      
  amendment clarifies the committee reviews "acquisitions and                  
  deaccessions," as opposed to every general thing.                            
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY noted there had been debate as to whether the                 
  correct word to use was "disposition" or "deaccession."                      
                                                                               
  Number 126                                                                   
                                                                               
  GEORGE SMITH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF LIBRARIES,                        
  ARCHIVES & MUSEUMS, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, answered                        
  questions on HB 531.  He clarified the correct wording would                 
  be "deaccessioning," meaning to withdraw an artifact or                      
  other piece of art, from a collection in a formal matter.                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated that copies of the committee                           
  substitute would be distributed to committee members for                     
  discussion on Thursday.  HB 531 was HELD IN COMMITTEE.                       
                                                                               
  Number 160                                                                   
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, hearing no more business before the                          
  committee, adjourned the meeting at 9:55 a.m.                                

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