Legislature(1993 - 1994)
04/17/1993 08:00 AM STA
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HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE April 17, 1993 8:00 a.m. MEMBERS PRESENT Representative Al Vezey, Chairman Representative Pete Kott, Vice Chairman Representative Harley Olberg Representative Gary Davis Representative Fran Ulmer MEMBERS ABSENT Representative Bettye Davis Representative Jerry Sanders OTHER HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT Representative David Finkelstein COMMITTEE CALENDAR Confirmation Hearings: State Board of Public Accountancy: Bradley Schaefer, CONFIRMATION RECOMMENDED 5-0 Jean Schmitt, CONFIRMATION RECOMMENDED 5-0 Charles Griffin, CONFIRMATION RECOMMENDED 5-0 HB 115 "An Act extending the termination of the Alaska Tourism Marketing Council; and providing for an effective date." HELD IN COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION HB 248 "An Act relating to predator control programs and hunting of predators." HELD IN COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION WITNESS REGISTER MCKIE CAMPBELL, Deputy Commissioner Department of Fish and Game P.O. Box 25526 Juneau, Alaska 99801-5526 465-4100 Position Statement: Opposed HB 248 BILL BURKE P.O. Box 240742 Douglas, Alaska 99824 780-6019 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 IRENE MORRIS Alaska Environmental Lobby P.O. Box 22151 Juneau, Alaska 99801 364-2729 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 REPRESENTATIVE DAVID FINKELSTEIN Alaska State Legislature Court Room 612 Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182 465-2435 Position Statement: Prime Sponsor of HB 248 BERNADETTE ZIMMERMAN P.O. Box 1476 Palmer, Alaska 99645 745-9510 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 CATHERINE RICHARDSON P.O. Box 80766 Fairbanks, Alaska 99708 479-2362 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 CHARLES DERRICK 891 Seldom Seen Road Fairbanks, Alaska 99712 488-3093 Position Statement: Opposed HB 248 & HB 115 RALPH SEEKINS, President Alaska Wildlife Conservation Association 1625 Old Steese Highway Fairbanks, Alaska 99701 452-1991 Position Statement: Opposed HB 248 GREG MACHACEK P.O. Box 56245 North Pole, Alaska 99705 488-4534 Position Statement: Opposed HB 248 KENNETH FORBES 2593 Yakutat Drive North Pole, Alaska 99705 488-4263 Position Statement: Opposed HB 248 DAVE MACHACEK P.O. Box 55905 North Pole, Alaska 99705 488-7164 Position Statement: Opposed HB 248 DAVID VANDENBURG Alaska Environmental Center 218 Driveway North Pole, Alaska 99705 452-5021 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 STEVEN WELLS Alaska Wildlife Alliance P.O. Box 202022 Anchorage, Alaska 99520 277-0897 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 WAYNE HALL P.O. Box 190455 Anchorage, Alaska 99519 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 TERRY BURRELL 3716 Weslyan Drive Anchorage, Alaska 99508 563-4454 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 MARILYN HOUSER 2411 Ingra Street Anchorage, Alaska 99508 276-6563 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 JOHN PETER CREIGHTON P.O. Box 2013 Bethel, Alaska 99559 543-4174 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 AMELIE REDMAN P.O. Box 991 Bethel, Alaska 99559 543-2154 Position Statement: Opposed HB 248 CAROL JANSEN 8451 Greenhill Way Anchorage, Alaska 99502 344-7078 Position Statement: Supported HB 248 MIKE TINKER P.O. Box 25197 Ester, Alaska 99725 479-3712 Position Statement: Opposed HB 248 DICK BISHOP 1555 Gus's Grind Fairbanks, Alaska 99709 455-6151 Position Statement: Opposed HB 248 BOB JACOBSEN Alaska Visitors Association 1873 Shell Simmons Drive Juneau, Alaska 99801 789-0970 Position Statement: Supported HB 115 TINA LINDGREN, Executive Director Alaska Tourism Marketing Council 3601 C Street #200 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 563-2259 Position Statement: Supported HB 115 ANN CAMPBELL Alaska Center for Economic Development 1577 C St., Suite 304 Anchorage, Alaska 99502 248-7680 Position Statement: Supported HB 115 LINDA MCLAUGHLIN Anchorage Convention and Visitors Bureau 3830 W. International Airport Road Anchorage, Alaska 99502 344-4330 Position Statement: Supported HB 115 PREVIOUS ACTION BILL: HB 115 SHORT TITLE: EXTEND TOURISM MARKETING COUNCIL BILL VERSION: SPONSOR(S): LABOR & COMMERCE TITLE: "An Act extending the termination date of the Alaska Tourism Marketing Council; and providing for an effective date." JRN-DATE JRN-PG ACTION 02/03/93 213 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S) 02/03/93 213 (H) TRADE & TOURISM, LABOR & COMM, FINANCE 02/18/93 (H) ITT AT 05:00 PM CAPITOL 102 02/18/93 (H) MINUTE(ITT) 02/18/93 (H) MINUTE(TRA) 02/24/93 442 (H) STA REFERRAL ADDED, FOLLOWING L&C 02/25/93 453 (H) ITT RPT CS(ITT) NEW TITLE 6DP 02/25/93 454 (H) DP: GREEN, SANDERS, NORDLUND, MENARD 02/25/93 454 (H) DP: TOOHEY, JAMES 02/25/93 454 (H) -ZERO FISCAL NOTE (DCED) 2/25/93 03/02/93 (H) L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17 03/02/93 (H) MINUTE(STA) 03/02/93 (H) MINUTE(L&C) 03/03/93 517 (H) L&C RPT 6DP 03/03/93 517 (H) DP: PORTER, SITTON, MULDER, WILLIAMS 03/03/93 517 (H) DP: GREEN, HUDSON 03/03/93 517 (H) -PREVIOUS ZERO FN (DCED) 2/25/93 03/03/93 517 (H) REFERRED TO STATE AFFAIRS 04/17/93 (H) STA AT 08:00 AM BUTROVICH ROOM 205 BILL: HB 248 SHORT TITLE: AERIAL HUNTING OF PREDATORS BILL VERSION: SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) FINKELSTEIN TITLE: "An Act relating to predator control programs and hunting of predators. JRN-DATE JRN-PG ACTION 03/22/93 732 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S) 03/22/93 733 (H) STATE AFFAIRS, RESOURCES, FINANCE 04/17/93 (H) STA AT 08:00 AM BUTROVICH ROOM 205 ACTION NARRATIVE TAPE 93-41, SIDE A Number 000 CHAIRMAN AL VEZEY called the House State Affairs Committee to order at 8:04 a.m. on April 13, 1993. Members present were Representatives Kott, Olberg, G. Davis and Ulmer, representing a quorum. CONFIRMATION HEARINGS: STATE BOARD OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTANCY Number 012 CHAIRMAN VEZEY announced the confirmation hearings for the State Board of Public Accountancy, and opened discussions on nominee BRADLEY SCHAEFER. Mr. Schaefer was neither present, nor on teleconference for questions. Number 034 REPRESENTATIVE GARY DAVIS MOVED the nomination of BRADLEY SCHAEFER. There was no objection. Number 046 CHAIRMAN VEZEY initiated discussion on the nomination of JEAN SCHMITT to the board. Ms. Schmitt was neither present, nor on teleconference for questions. Number 059 REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS MOVED the nomination of JEAN SCHMITT to the board. There were no objections. Number 066 CHAIRMAN VEZEY initiated discussion on the nomination of CHARLES GRIFFIN to the board. Mr. Griffin was neither present, nor on teleconference for questions. Number 075 REPRESENTATIVE HARLEY OLBERG MOVED the nomination of CHARLES GRIFFIN to the board. There were no objections. HB 248: AERIAL HUNTING OF PREDATORS Number 091 CHAIRMAN VEZEY then read the title to HB 248, and not seeing its sponsor present, invited public testimony. Number 107 MCKIE CAMPBELL, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME, testified in opposition to HB 248. He stated the department could not support HB 248 because it, and SB 77, were both created in reaction to the aerial wolf hunt controversy. The department believes both bills to be in error because HB 248 would effectively preclude predator control except under the most extreme circumstances, and SB 77 would mandate it. He also stated the powers involved in each bill are already built into the department's duties, making them unnecessary. REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS asked if HB 248 effectively tied the hands of department officials. Number 150 MR. CAMPBELL stated there are already some regulations in effect that are covered by HB 248. He stated there were several problems with HB 248, including the phrase stating predator control could only be undertaken if predators are the primary cause of ungulate population depletions. He stated that predators are not always the primary cause of a depletion, but they can put prey into the "predator pit" model of populations after weather or other Outside factors kill off significant numbers. He also said getting written assurances from the federal government to undertake population control would be near impossible to do under HB 248, and not likely to be done in a timely manner in any case. Number 186 CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if it seemed HB 248 made wolf control almost impossible until ungulate populations were extinct. Number 194 MR. CAMPBELL felt HB 248 was "ungulate unfriendly," and that the phrases built into the bill made it unlikely any predator control could occur. He stated any controls might be delayed unreasonably by HB 248. Number 207 BILL BURKE testified in support of HB 248. He stated HB 248 is a comprehensive game management effort that stops the needless killing of wildlife for hunters. Number 225 IRENE MORRIS OF THE ALASKA ENVIRONMENTAL LOBBY testified in support HB 248. She supported the use of scientific data for game management and believed single species management supported by hunters was wrong. She noted the need for wildlife to be protected as the eco-tourism movement grows, and stated aerial hunting of wolves is unethical. Number 255 REPRESENTATIVE DAVID FINKELSTEIN, PRIME SPONSOR OF HB 248, presented his sponsor statement. He stated the intent of HB 248 was to develop a system similar to the one now in use in the Yukon Territory in Canada. He stated the intent of HB 248 was to take into account several factors in game management, including subsistence use, tourism, hunting and consumptive use. Accordingly, control would not be done by private citizens under the direction of the state, but by Fish and Game officers. In addition, he stated the intent of HB 248 was not to eliminate wildlife control, but rather to set up guidelines for its use. CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if HB 248, as written, seemed to be "anti-ungulate" and written more in favor of predators. REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN stated it was his intent to achieve a balance between predators and prey, and the bill was not written in favor of one species. He admitted HB 248 is written in favor of predators. Number 335 BERNADETTE ZIMMERMAN testified by teleconference from Mat-Su in favor of HB 248. She stated there is a mentality in certain sectors of the population that yearned for the "Gold Rush Days," in which if it competed with man for food, it (predators) should be shot. She stated this mentality was antiquated, and the Board of Game was more concerned about moose and caribou populations than total system management. She stated aerial hunting of wolves is morally and ethically wrong. Number 388 CATHERINE RICHARDSON testified by teleconference from Fairbanks in support of HB 248. She liked HB 248 because it opposed wolf control in general, restricted subsistence hunting, was consistent with federal law, set up an annual review, and any control program would be carried out by the government and not the public. Number 408 CHARLES DERRICK testified by teleconference from Fairbanks in opposition to HB 248. He stated the need for effective control programs, especially in light of the drop in Fairbanks area caribou populations by more than 50% in the last few months. He expressed concern that the populations might be falling into the "predator pit," and he was worried many calves would fall prey, which could restrict the population further. He stated this was an example of an "emergency condition" and called for HB 248's defeat. Number 431 REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS asked how long Mr. Derrick had been working on the wolf management plan that had been agreed upon. Number 436 MR. DERRICK stated he had been working on such a plan with others since 1974, but specifically on the latest plan for at least two years. He stated the Strategic Wolf Management Plan was the product of testimony from several groups and that it had been wrongly struck down because of pressure from those who simply didn't have the facts. Number 451 RALPH SEEKINS, PRESIDENT, ALASKA WILDLIFE CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION, testified by teleconference from Fairbanks in opposition to HB 248. He said any bill that states the ungulate population must be in serious jeopardy is sophomoric and obviously anti-human consumption. House Bill 248, he stated, is anti-consumption and not tourism friendly, because hunters are statistically responsible for less than two and a half percent of any population loss, and predators take the majority, and if nothing is done to control those predators, there will be fewer animals for tourists to see. Number 484 GREG MACHACEK testified by teleconference from Fairbanks in opposition to HB 248. He said he was an active outdoorsman who has seen firsthand the dramatic drop in populations, and predators appear to be taking over in the absence of wolf control. He said more aggressive control programs are needed, and there is no logical reason to wait for populations to crash to institute management controls. Number 510 KENNETH FORBES testified by teleconference from Fairbanks in opposition to HB 248. He stated HB 248 appeared to be more of a people control bill instead of predator control, and the sponsor's concerns were in the wrong place. He stated that 20 year veterans of wildlife management had come up with a viable plan, only to see the plan quashed because of Outside interests like Westours, and that was not in the best interest of Alaska wildlife management. Number 524 DAVID MACHACEK testified by teleconference from Fairbanks in opposition to HB 248. He stated HB 248 is unnecessary because its provisions are already covered in Chapter 92 of the hunting regulations. He stated it was absurd to consider waiting until populations crash to institute population controls, and it was also unrealistic to expect changes in populations in one year, the time required for recertification of the program. He called on the state to do predator control in the most efficient manner for both wildlife's and the budget's sake. Number 556 DAVID VANDENBURG OF THE ALASKA ENVIRONMENTAL CENTER testified by teleconference from Anchorage in support of HB 248. He stated he was not opposed to control, but to reckless management of wildlife. He stated HB 248 was based in biology and was a balanced and fair approach. He also stated HB 248 mirrored the Strategic Wolf Management Plan the most, would not tie any hands, and should be adopted. Number 575 STEVEN WELLS OF THE ALASKA WILDLIFE ALLIANCE testified by teleconference from Anchorage in favor of HB 248. He stated HB 248 reasonably addresses wolf management, including the increasing demands of hunters for more moose and caribou. He said he objected to the practice of aerial hunting, and it ought to be obvious now that most Alaskans do as well. TAPE 94-41, SIDE B Number 000 WAYNE HALL testified by teleconference from Anchorage in support of HB 248. He stated aerial control measures are unpopular and unnecessary, and that any extreme measure must be monitored. He said HB 248 simply sets up and defines when those measures must be taken. He stated it was wrong to allow the greed of hunters to justify predator and wolf controls. Number 041 TERRY BURRELL testified by teleconference from Anchorage in favor of HB 248, stating it is friendly to all Alaskans. She claimed hunters are the biggest reason for the decline in ungulate populations, and HB 248 takes the politics out of wildlife management. Number 066 MARILYN HOUSER testified by teleconference from Anchorage in favor of HB 248. She stated the Game Board is nothing more than a bunch of "yes men" for Fish and Game, which is controlled by hunters. She stated it is clear guidelines are needed to be set up for predator control, and that HB 248 does that. She stated the only reason predator control was entertained in the first place was because of poor management, overhunting and poaching. Number 090 JOHN PETER CREIGHTON testified by teleconference from Bethel in support of HB 248. He stated a majority of Alaskans were against predator control, and it was not in the best interest of the environment. He commented that those who claim Outsiders have unfairly influenced the outcome of the aerial hunt should look at themselves, since it seemed to him that third generation Euro-Americans were trying to dictate policy to Natives. Number 135 AMELIE REDMAN testified by teleconference from Bethel in opposition to HB 248, and stated any wolf management is against God's will, and the use of radio wolf collars is a violation of a wolf's privacy. She stated slaughtering any wolves was a violation of the commandment, "Thou Shall Not Kill." Number 159 CAROL JANSEN testified by teleconference from Anchorage in support of HB 248. She stated HB 248 is a much better option than SB 77, which mandates the use of wolf control. She stated HB 248 is a compromise in line with the original Strategic Wolf Management Plan and it is based in biology. She stated our credibility in Alaska is on the line, and not passing HB 248 would test that credibility. Number 207 MIKE TINKER testified by teleconference from Fairbanks in opposition to HB 248. He stated he was involved in the wolf management plan from the beginning, and opposed HB 248 because it supplanted the process of public input. He also stated that if the state was going to abandon the process of wildlife management in regards to wolf control, it should logically also close all its fish hatcheries. He was also opposed to any one year renewal clause in any management plan, stating that any control program would need more time to take effect. Number 245 DICK BISHOP testified by teleconference from Fairbanks in opposition to HB 248. He stated HB 248 puts the state back to square one when it comes to predator control, and it creates an atmosphere of gridlock when it comes to any hope of predator control in 1993. He also stated HB 248 does not incorporate good biology in its system; all terms used in the bill mean no management of predators; and HB 248 is not worthy of legislative consideration. Number 274 CHAIRMAN VEZEY noted the time and called a five minute at- ease at 9:09 a.m. HB 115: EXTEND TOURISM MARKETING COUNCIL Number 278 CHAIRMAN VEZEY called the committee back to order at 9:15 a.m. and read the title to HB 115, then called for testimony. Number 282 BOB JACOBSEN, PRESIDENT, ALASKA VISITORS ASSOCIATION (AVA), joined the committee to testify in favor of HB 115. He stated it is critical for HB 115 to receive a prompt approval in order for 1994 marketing and advertising plans to be made in time. He stated the Alaska Tourism Marketing Council's (ATMC) Vacation Planning Guide is the primary marketing tool for many small Alaska tourism businesses, and any delay could jeopardize their 1994 plans. He also stated if HB 115 is not passed, larger tourist businesses will go on with their marketing plans because they have the necessary money, but small businesses will be irreparably hurt. Number 323 CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he had serious concerns with ATMC's evolution since its incorporation as a state funded agency in 1988. He stated he had great concerns about ATMC's apparent position on Fish and Game issues. Number 340 MR. JACOBSEN stated he felt ATMC did not voluntarily jump into the controversy over the aerial wolf hunt, but did react to comments attributed to state Fish and Game officials in the New York Times, stating they had designed the hunt as an aid to building a tourist attraction. He said the ATMC had no position on Fish and Game issues; they were interested in building tourism. Number 369 CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he had concerns about the fact that ATMC officials had apparently not filed Alaska Public Offices Commission (APOC) Conflict of Interest statements until 1991, and asked why that was. Number 385 MR. JACOBSEN stated he could not speak for others, but he personally had filled out a statement previous to that. Number 391 CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he was told by APOC that only two or three ATMC members had filed statements in the last three years. MR. JACOBSEN said he was surprised, and he would personally remind AVA members to file APOC statements in the future. Number 408 TINA LINDGREN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA TOURISM MARKETING COUNCIL, joined the committee to testify in favor of HB 115. She reiterated the need for HB 115 to be passed in order for small Alaska tourist businesses to be successfully promoted in the next year, and stated the prompt passage of HB 115 was needed because of the long lead time necessary for a successful marketing program. On the topic of public disclosure, she stated she knew ATMC board members' statements were being monitored, because she knew of at least one member who had been fined for not filing in time. Number 450 CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked about the financial relationship between the three agencies participating in the ATMC marketing program. Number 457 MS. LINDGREN stated the ATMC was joined by the State Department of Commerce and Economic Development and the Alaska Visitors Association to handle the in-kind cash contributions made by ATMC members. She noted since a 1991 auditor's report, that relationship has been modified in accordance with the auditor's report. Number 468 CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked why the profits generated under ATMC's marketing plan became an issue for auditors. Number 472 MS. LINDGREN explained that the profits themselves were not a problem, but rather the timeliness of their reporting. She stated that the auditors wanted funds transferred and accounted for at the end of each fiscal year, while Commerce and Economic Development wanted it done at the end of the calendar year. She stated this point is still in dispute. Number 479 CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked what happened to the interest gained from funds placed in the bank for use in ATMC's matching grant program. He asked if that interest was turned over to the state or used for the matching grant program. Number 488 MS. LINDGREN stated the interest would go to the matching grant fund, which legislators knew when they created the program. She said the auditors felt the interest should be turned over to the state, and that it wasn't a question of misappropriation of funds, but the timeliness of the deposit and then subsequent use. Number 503 CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated after reading the auditor's report it seemed to him the dispute centered around the handling of profits and the handling of the interest from them. MS. LINDGREN said ATMC is going on a ruling from the Department of Law stating that ATMC's handling of both was in accordance of the law. CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated it seemed one party was taking advantage of another. He noted the auditors' concern with money spent by the state on a post Exxon Valdez spill project, and wondered if the state got the benefit of its prorated share. Number 524 MS. LINDGREN stated the auditors' concerns grew out of the $14 million marketing campaign Exxon mounted in the wake of the spill, which the state went along with for $400,000. She stated the auditors' concerns about how the money had been spent and accounted for and were legitimate, and that new ATMC rules will not allow such a transaction again; and in the future, a similar program would have to be mounted with a donation from a company. TAPE 93-42, SIDE ONE Number 000 CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked about the $400,000 cited by auditors as not spent on tourism related marketing or administrative costs. Number 012 MS. LINDGREN responded that the entry in the audit book refers back to the Exxon campaign she previously explained. Number 040 CHAIRMAN VEZEY noted the auditors' concerns that the ATMC sometimes did not follow the Alaska Bidders' Preference when it contracted for work. Number 046 MS. LINDGREN explained that the problem was a function of using subcontractors for subcontractors. She stated some subcontractors opted to use Outside help instead of Alaskans in previous years. She said ATMC has now directed its advertising agency and its subcontractors to use Alaskan talent and to follow the Alaska Bidders Preference when possible. Number 070 CHAIRMAN VEZEY referred to the audit report about money that had been determined to be spent improperly, and asked if that issue had been resolved. Number 080 MS. LINDGREN stated the money in question had gone to a research contract that had been in contention. She stated the issue had been discussed and resolved with the auditors. Number 090 CHAIRMAN VEZEY referred to the auditor's complaint that ATMC's accounting system was not compatible with state procedures, and asked if that had been resolved. Number 103 MS. LINDGREN replied that the auditors' disagreement was not with ATMC, but rather with Commerce and Economic Development. She said the auditors found no problem with the accounting itself, but rather how far into smaller components it had been broken into. Number 119 CHAIRMAN VEZEY expressed concern about the makeup of the ATMC board, saying he hoped small business' concerns were being addressed, and he wasn't sure small business was being appropriately represented. Number 133 MS. LINDGREN stated she felt small business was being well represented on the board, the result of having 21 board members for a 900 member group. She said of the 21 members, 17 are Alaskans, and the ATMC had formed a Small Business Task Force specifically to address the concerns of smaller business. Number 153 ANN CAMPBELL, COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, joined the committee to testify in favor of HB 115. She stated the corporation was actively involved in developing rural tourism and currently represents more than 200 businesses in the rural sector. She said HB 115 was vital for them to actively market the rural businesses, especially to take advantage of the eco-tourism boom. Number 182 LINDA MCLAUGHLIN, PRESIDENT, ANCHORAGE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU (ACVB), testified in favor of HB 115, saying the ACVB depends heavily on the ATMC's Vacation Planner to market their product. She stated the planner is also the only way for smaller businesses to get their foot in the door to compete with the larger companies, and to take away the ability to market in the planner would hurt them the most. She noted that 783 of 900 ACVB members were small businesses with five employees or less, and she urged the committee to pass HB 115 for their sake. Number 251 CHARLES DERRICK testified by teleconference from Fairbanks in opposition to HB 115. He stated the tourist industry was one of the major opponents of the wolf hunt, especially Westours. He asked rhetorically if the tourism industry could impact the control of one Alaskan resource, and which one would be next. Number 281 RALPH SEEKINS, PRESIDENT, ALASKA WILDLIFE CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION, testified by teleconference from Fairbanks and stated the association did not oppose funding of the ATMC, but he was concerned about the impact the industry had on the wolf hunt. ADJOURNMENT Number 293 CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he intended to take HB 115 up in committee in the next session, at which time he expected it to pass easily. He stated that before it left House State Affairs, he did have several questions that needed to be answered. With that, he adjourned the meeting at 9:55 a.m.