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05/09/2025 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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-- Delayed to 20 min. Following Session --
+= HB 191 INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 191(RES) Out of Committee
+ SJR 19 ANWR & NAT'L PETRO RESERVE: STATE SHARE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                          May 9, 2025                                                                                           
                           1:41 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Robyn Niayuq Burke, Co-Chair                                                                                     
Representative Maxine Dibert, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Carolyn Hall                                                                                                     
Representative Donna Mears                                                                                                      
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                  
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative Bill Elam                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 19(RES)                                                                                      
Urging  the United  States Congress  to  honor the  terms of  the                                                               
Mineral Leasing Act and the  Alaska Statehood Act and provide the                                                               
state  with a  90 percent  share of  all bonuses,  royalties, and                                                               
rentals  received  by  the federal  government  from  the  Arctic                                                               
National Wildlife  Refuge and the  National Petroleum  Reserve in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 191                                                                                                              
"An Act establishing  the Alaska Invasive Species  Council in the                                                               
Department of Fish  and Game; relating to  management of invasive                                                               
species; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 191(RES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR 19                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ANWR & NAT'L PETRO RESERVE: STATE SHARE                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) BJORKMAN                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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04/11/25       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
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04/23/25       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/23/25       (S)       Moved CSSJR 19(RES) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/23/25       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
04/25/25       (S)       RES RPT CS 7DP   SAME TITLE                                                                            
04/25/25       (S)       DP: GIESSEL, HUGHES, DUNBAR, CLAMAN,                                                                   
                         KAWASAKI, MYERS, WIELECHOWSKI                                                                          
05/05/25       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
05/05/25       (S)       VERSION: CSSJR 19(RES)                                                                                 
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05/07/25       (H)       RES                                                                                                    
05/09/25       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 191                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT                                                                                        
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HIMSCHOOT                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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04/14/25       (H)       RES, FIN                                                                                               
05/05/25       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
05/05/25       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
05/05/25       (H)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
05/09/25       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LAURA ACHEE, Staff                                                                                                              
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  On behalf of Senator Bjorkman, prime                                                                     
sponsor, introduced SJR 19.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA HIMSCHOOT                                                                                                               
Alaska State Representative                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, introduced HB 191.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOE FELKL, Legislative Liaison                                                                                                  
Alaska Department of Fish & Game                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on HB 191 and answered questions.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY DAVIS, Invasive Species Coordinator                                                                                       
Alaska Department of Fish & Game                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on HB 191 and answered questions.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CODY JACOBSON, Invasive Species Coordinator                                                                                     
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on HB 191 and answered questions.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RENA MILLER, Special Assistant to the Commissioner                                                                              
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions regarding HB 191.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE called  the  House  Resources Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting to  order at  1:41 p.m.   Representatives  Burke, Dibert,                                                               
Hall, Mears,  Rauscher, Coulombe,  and Elam  were present  at the                                                               
call to  order.   Representatives Fields  and Saddler  arrived as                                                               
the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
         SJR 19-ANWR & NAT'L PETRO RESERVE: STATE SHARE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:41:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be  SENATE JOINT  RESOLUTION  NO. 19,  Urging  the United  States                                                               
Congress to  honor the terms of  the Mineral Leasing Act  and the                                                               
Alaska  Statehood Act  and provide  the state  with a  90 percent                                                               
share  of all  bonuses, royalties,  and rentals  received by  the                                                               
federal government  from the Arctic National  Wildlife Refuge and                                                               
the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:42:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  ACHEE,   Staff,  Senator  Jesse  Bjorkman,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  introduced SJR  19 on  behalf of  Senator Bjorkman,                                                               
prime sponsor.  She presented  the sponsor statement [included in                                                               
the  committee  file],  summarizing   the  major  points  of  the                                                               
resolution.   She stated that President  Donald Trump's Executive                                                               
Order  calling for  opening the  Arctic National  Wildlife Refuge                                                               
(ANWR)  and building  the Alaska  liquified  natural gas  (AKLNG)                                                               
pipeline  has   many  people   excited  about   seeing  increased                                                               
production  of  Alaska's  petroleum  resources.    However,  U.S.                                                               
Congress has gone back on the  promise it made when Alaska became                                                               
a  state.   Alaska  should  receive  90  percent of  the  royalty                                                               
revenues  from  production on  federal  land.   Senator  Bjorkman                                                               
introduced SJR  19, asking Congress  to uphold the  90/10 promise                                                               
it made  in the Statehood Act.   If the State  of Alaska receives                                                               
its  promised 90  percent share,  there will  be more  revenue to                                                               
meet  the  needs  of Alaskans  including  public  safety,  roads,                                                               
schools, and the permanent fund dividend (PFD).                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE  spoke regarding mitigation  funding for  both the                                                               
state and  impacted communities.   In  current law,  Congress has                                                               
required  that   50  percent  of  all   federal  lease  revenues,                                                               
including bonuses, rentals,  and royalties, must go  to the state                                                               
of  Alaska, and  that those  funds must  go to  support the  most                                                               
directly impacted  communities.  She stated  that for communities                                                               
such  as Atqasuk,  Nuiqsut, Wainwright,  and Utqiagvik  the funds                                                               
are  not optional  but rather  are essential.   They  support the                                                               
infrastructure  and public  services  needed to  live safely  and                                                               
sustainably in a region heavily  impacted by industrial activity.                                                               
Without  that  support, the  communities  are  left to  bear  the                                                               
impacts of oil  and gas development on  their communities without                                                               
the resources to respond.  In  the 1980's when the state diverted                                                               
these  funds elsewhere,  the North  Slope  communities took  that                                                               
matter to  court and won.   The ruling reaffirmed the  state must                                                               
fund the  impacted communities first  before allocating  money to                                                               
the permanent  fund, school trust,  or general fund.   She stated                                                               
that  she supported  the resolution  and would  like to  see that                                                               
additional  40  percent  for  all  Alaskans  but  emphasized  the                                                               
importance of  honoring the places  where the impacts of  the oil                                                               
industry are most  felt.  It is not only  legal compliance but it                                                               
is also fair  and honors the state's commitment to  the people in                                                               
the North  Slope region  which has and  continues to  generate so                                                               
much wealth for the state and its people.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE announced SJR 19 was held over.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
               HB 191-INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:45:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BURKE announced  the next  order of  business would  be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  191, "An  Act establishing  the Alaska  Invasive                                                               
Species Council in  the Department of Fish and  Game; relating to                                                               
management of  invasive species;  and providing for  an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:46:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA   HIMSCHOOT,  Alaska   State  Representative,   as  prime                                                               
sponsor, introduced  HB 191.   She described  the purpose  of the                                                               
council  and  cited  invasive   species  management  councils  in                                                               
Montana, Oregon, Washington, and Idaho.   She provided context by                                                               
comparing the threats  posed to those states  by invasive species                                                               
to what  Alaska faces.   She discussed research conducted  by Dr.                                                               
Schwoerer  regarding  the  environmental   risks  caused  by  the                                                               
invasive  species  Elodea  which  threatens water  bodies.    She                                                               
reviewed  the cost  of managing  invasive  species, pointing  out                                                               
that  federal  funding  would  pay  for  72  percent,  non-profit                                                               
funding  would  pay 21  percent,  leaving  the  state to  fund  7                                                               
percent.  She completed her  introduction with a cautionary story                                                               
about how requiring  double hulls could have  prevented the Exxon                                                               
Valdez  oil  spill  and  that   Alaska  now  faces  a  comparable                                                               
situation  regarding invasive  species.   She  said  that HB  191                                                               
would  be  an important  first  step  in facing  the  slow-moving                                                               
catastrophe presented by invasive species.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:51:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DIBERT  moved to  adopt Amendment 1  to HB  191, labeled                                                               
34-LS0541\G.1, Bullard, 5/8/25, which read as follows:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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        (b)(2) - (4) of this section serve as nonvoting                                                                         
     members."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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1:51:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT explained  that she  welcomed Amendment                                                               
1,  the purpose  of  which was  to clarify  the  number of  board                                                               
members  needed to  conduct business.   It  also clarified  which                                                               
would be voting members and which would be advisory.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:52:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER objected.   He expressed concern regarding                                                               
some  members  being  deprived  of  the  opportunity  to  provide                                                               
substantive input into recommendations.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll  call vote  was  taken.   Representatives  Fields,  Hall,                                                               
Mears, Dibert,  and Burke  voted in  favor of  Amendment 1  to HB
191.    Representatives  Coulombe, Saddler,  Elam,  and  Rauscher                                                               
voted against it.   Therefore, Amendment 1 was adopted  by a vote                                                               
of 5-4.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:53:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE moved to adopt  Amendment 2 to HB 191, as                                                               
amended, labeled  34-LS0541\G.2, Bullard,  5/8/25, which  read as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "2035"                                                                                                         
     Insert "2030"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE  explained  that   the  purpose  of  the                                                               
amendment was  to align the date  of the fiscal note  with sunset                                                               
date of the council, so both are 2030.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:54:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  explained that the 10-year  sunset date                                                               
would give the council sufficient time  to "prove up" the work of                                                               
the council.  She did not welcome the amendment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:55:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  stated  his  support  for  Amendment  2,                                                               
explaining that  five years  should show  whether the  council is                                                               
working.  He also expressed his  concern that with a longer term,                                                               
the  council would  consume resources  without check.   He  saw a                                                               
sunset of five years as appropriate and generous.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:55:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  pointed out  that  there  would be  an                                                               
annual report,  so the legislature  would have a duty  every year                                                               
to check on  the work of the  council.  She pointed  out that two                                                               
of the people who do the work are available to answer questions.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:57:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE maintained her objection.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Elam,  Coulombe,                                                               
Rauscher, and  Saddler voted in favor  of Amendment 2 to  HB 191,                                                               
as  amended.   Representatives Fields,  Hall, Mears,  Dibert, and                                                               
Burke  voted against  it.   Therefore, Amendment  2 failed  to be                                                               
adopted by a vote of 4-5.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:58:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE moved to adopt  Amendment 3 to HB 191, as                                                               
amended, labeled  34-LS0541\G.3, Bullard,  5/9/25, which  read as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:"                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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       the task force required under (b) of this section                                                                        
     within 60 days after the effective date of this Act."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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     meeting within 90 days after the appointment of                                                                            
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     shall meet at least four times in the 12 months                                                                            
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     section and quarterly thereafter at the call of the                                                                        
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          "* Sec. 2. Section 1 of this Act is repealed                                                                      
     July 1, 2027."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill section accordingly.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COULOMBE  described her  amendment as  a "creative                                                               
amendment," comparing  her work  on a  childcare task  force with                                                               
the proposed  invasive species council.   She explained  that the                                                               
childcare  task force  worked with  compressed time  constraints,                                                               
and it accomplished a lot that  way.  Changing a ten-year council                                                               
into a two-year  task force addresses her  concerns regarding the                                                               
fiscal note.  The two-year task  force would come up with a five-                                                               
year  strategic   plan  and  help  coordinate   resources.    She                                                               
explained how the funding would work under with the amendment.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:00:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT explained  that  a  council would  have                                                               
ongoing and changing  work, versus setting up  policies through a                                                               
task  force.    The  distinction  is  that  a  task  force  would                                                               
accomplish a mission,  whereas a council would  have evolving and                                                               
ongoing work as  well as having an advisory role  with the Alaska                                                               
Department of Fish & Game  (ADF&G).  She described that initially                                                               
there would be no request for  funding but when funds are set up,                                                               
they  would  act  an  emergency response  fund  for  an  invasive                                                               
species threat.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:01:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RAUSCHER   expressed    appreciation   for   the                                                               
amendment, explaining  that a task  force would be  structured to                                                               
get things done and would cost less money.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER stated  that he  liked the  amendment and                                                               
that it  would remove  potentially duplicative  functions between                                                               
the  invasive  species  partnership  and  the  departments.    He                                                               
posited that the  work of a task force would  be more focused and                                                               
could  suggest  the  best  way   to  implement  invasive  species                                                               
responses.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:04:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS explained that  she appreciated the goals of                                                               
a task  force but also  appreciated that  a council would  have a                                                               
different mission.   She compared it to the work  of an office of                                                               
emergency management which would  coordinate resources.  She said                                                               
the  work of  a task  force could  be valuable,  but the  council                                                               
would be a better option.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:05:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE  reiterated  her concern  regarding  the                                                               
fiscal note and the budget  crunch they were facing. pointing out                                                               
the lower  costs of  a task force.   She drew  a parallel  to how                                                               
mental health  was coordinated in the  state by means of  a five-                                                               
year  comprehensive plan  with the  mental health  trust and  the                                                               
department of health.  She  suggested such an approach to dealing                                                               
with  invasive species.   The  task force  could offer  strategic                                                               
plans, but ultimately,  it would be up to the  departments to get                                                               
the work done.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:07:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE  FELKL,  Legislative Liaison,  Alaska  Department  of Fish  &                                                               
Game, described the  department's position regarding HB  191.  He                                                               
explained that  regardless of whether the  legislature decided to                                                               
use a task  force or a longer-term advisory  body, the department                                                               
would  still  need  additional staffing  to  support  that  work.                                                               
However, the  department was neutral  on the amendment  and would                                                               
implement  and support  the work  of a  council or  a task  force                                                               
regardless of how it is established.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:08:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY DAVIS,  Invasive Species Coordinator, Alaska  Department of                                                               
Fish  & Game,  explained that  the question  regarding whether  a                                                               
council or a task  force would best serve was out  of her area of                                                               
expertise.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:08:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CODY  JACOBSON,  Invasive   Species  Coordinator,  Department  of                                                               
Natural  Resources,  answered  a  question  regarding  whether  a                                                               
council  or a  task  force  would work  better  by referring  the                                                               
question to Rena Miller.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:09:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RENA MILLER,  Special Assistant  to the  Commissioner, Department                                                               
of  Natural  Resources,  responded   to  the  question  regarding                                                               
whether a task  force or a council would be  the better model for                                                               
dealing with  invasive species.   She said  it would be  a policy                                                               
call for the legislature, and  the department would work with the                                                               
legislature whatever they decided.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:09:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BURKE maintained her objection.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Elam,  Coulombe,                                                               
Rauscher, and  Saddler voted in favor  of Amendment 3 to  HB 191,                                                               
as  amended.   Representatives Mears,  Fields, Hall,  Dibert, and                                                               
Burke  voted against  it.   Therefore, Amendment  3 failed  to be                                                               
adopted by a vote of 4-5.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:11:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. DAVIS,  in response to  questions by  Representative Saddler,                                                               
described  her role  as invasive  species  coordinator at  ADF&G,                                                               
explaining that  she facilitated, developed, and  implemented all                                                               
aspects of invasive species management  statewide.  She explained                                                               
what  entities  on the  state,  tribal,  and federal  level  they                                                               
worked with  and concerns regarding rodents,  marine species, and                                                               
other  deleterious, exotic,  and abusive  wildlife.   She pointed                                                               
out  that  invasive species  are  a  threat to  the  environment,                                                               
economies, health, fish, and wildlife.   She described steps that                                                               
are  taken including  raising awareness;  investigating potential                                                               
pathways  for species  threat; partnering  on detection  and risk                                                               
assessment;  and  providing  information  to  the  public.    She                                                               
discussed  early detection  monitoring networks  and coordinating                                                               
with the University of Alaska.   She mentioned water body mapping                                                               
and how water body vulnerabilities  were ranked.  She pointed out                                                               
what  actions  would take  place  prior  to an  invasive  species                                                               
threat.  She  described early detection and  rapid response plans                                                               
for the  European green  crab and  other aquatic  threats.    She                                                               
discussed national and  international organizations which address                                                               
threats from invasive species.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:20:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DAVIS responded  to a  question from  Representative Saddler                                                               
regarding the  work being  done to meet  the threats  of invasive                                                               
species  by pointing  out  the work  done  to eradicate  northern                                                               
pike.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:23:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACOBSON  answered a series of  questions from Representative                                                               
Saddler regarding  meeting the  threat of  invasive species.   He                                                               
described   the    statutory   responsibilities    for   managing                                                               
terrestrial and  freshwater plant species for  pests and disease.                                                               
He discussed  coordinating the work  with other  departments such                                                               
as  ADF&G, transportation,  and  conservation as  well as  tribal                                                               
entities  and  federal  partnerships   such  as  Bureau  of  Land                                                               
Management and the  park service.  Efforts  have been coordinated                                                               
through  an  invasive  species  hotline   as  well  as  soil  and                                                               
conservation  districts, communities,  working  groups, and  task                                                               
forces.   He described the work  of Elodia task forces  in Alaska                                                               
and  their  rapid response  to  new  infestations.   He  gave  an                                                               
example of the  rapid response to Six-Mile Lake  which took place                                                               
in  a one-year  period from  infestation to  full-lake treatment.                                                               
He discussed  DNR's seed regulations  which help the  division of                                                               
agriculture's  plant  material  center  regulate  the  import  or                                                               
spread of invasive species through seed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:28:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE  FELKL responded  to a  question from  Representative Saddler                                                               
regarding which department  is best suited to  deal with invasive                                                               
species  by describing  ADF&G's  responsibilities.   However,  he                                                               
suggested that  the question  is actually  a policy  question for                                                               
the legislature.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:29:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  commented that  she  was  not sure  it                                                               
mattered where it was housed.   The most important point would be                                                               
that the  work needs  to be  done and that  not enough  was being                                                               
done.    She  posited  that  the proposed  council  was  a  cost-                                                               
effective approach to the issue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:30:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS suggested  that  ADF&G would  seem a  good                                                               
match  for  responding  to  the   potential  threat  of  invasive                                                               
species.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:30:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  reiterated his  concern that  the council                                                               
would  create another  layer of  coordination  rather than  using                                                               
resources for the actual work.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:31:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DAVIS   addressed  a  question  posed   by  Co-Chair  Dibert                                                               
regarding  how   goldfish  became  an  invasive   species.    She                                                               
explained that  they are  a carp species  which grow  quite large                                                               
and are very invasive.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:34:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DIBERT moved  to  report  HB 191,  as  amended, out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COULOMBE   objected,  noting  that  it   was  too                                                               
expensive.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER agreed with the objection.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
A  roll  call  vote  was taken.    Representatives  Hall,  Mears,                                                               
Fields, Dibert,  and Burke voted  in favor  of moving HB  191, as                                                               
amended,  out of  committee with  individual recommendations  and                                                               
the accompanying  fiscal notes.  Representatives  Elam, Coulombe,                                                               
Raucher, and Saddler voted against  it.  Therefore, CSHB 191(RES)                                                               
was reported out of the House Resources Standing Committee by a                                                                 
vote of 5-4.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:36:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Resources Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:36 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR 19 Sponsor Statement Version H.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - Alaska Statehood Act Excerpt.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - 1993 Atty Gen Cole OpEd.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - DOI Secretary's Order 3422.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - Mineral Leasing Act Excerpt.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Support Document - Unleashing Alaska's Extraordinary Resource Potential.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR 19 Version H.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
SJR19-LEG-SESS-04-10-2025.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
SJR 19
HB 191 Testimony - Received by 5.8.25.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 191
HB 191 Invasive Species Council LOS 5.8.25.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 191
HB 191 Amendment - G.2 5.9.25.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 191
DNR Re HB 191 Rep Himschoot 5-9-25.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 191
ADFG Response re HRES HB191 Questions 05.09.25.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 191
HB 191 Amendment - G.1 5.9.25.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 191
HB 191 Amendment - G.3 5.9.25.pdf HRES 5/9/2025 1:00:00 PM
HB 191