Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

03/11/2024 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 1:30 PM --
+= HB 349 RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECT LEASES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 92 STATE OWNERSHIP OF SUBMERGED LAND TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 92(RES) Out of Committee
+= HB 388 COOK INLET RESERVE-BASED LENDING TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 11, 2024                                                                                         
                           1:36 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tom McKay, Chair                                                                                                 
Representative George Rauscher, Vice Chair                                                                                      
Representative Thomas Baker                                                                                                     
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Stanley Wright                                                                                                   
Representative Jennie Armstrong                                                                                                 
Representative Donna Mears                                                                                                      
Representative Maxine Dibert                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 349                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to leases of public land for renewable energy                                                                  
projects; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 92(2D RES)                                                                                               
"An Act relating to state ownership of submerged land underlying                                                                
navigable water within the boundaries of federal areas; and                                                                     
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HCS CSSB 92(RES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 388                                                                                                              
"An Act relating  to state loans for oil and  gas projects in the                                                               
Cook  Inlet  sedimentary basin;  relating  to  the Alaska  Energy                                                               
Authority;  relating to  the  Alaska  Industrial Development  and                                                               
Export Authority; and providing for an effective date."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 349                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECT LEASES                                                                                    
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) GROH                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
02/20/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/20/24       (H)       RES, ENE, FIN                                                                                          
03/08/24       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/08/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/08/24       (H)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
03/11/24       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  92                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: STATE OWNERSHIP OF SUBMERGED LAND                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) GIESSEL BY REQUEST                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
03/08/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/08/23       (S)       RES                                                                                                    
03/29/23       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/29/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/29/23       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
04/12/23       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/12/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/12/23       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
04/14/23       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/14/23       (S)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
04/17/23       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/17/23       (S)       Moved CSSB 92(RES) Out of Committee                                                                    
04/17/23       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
04/19/23       (S)       RES RPT CS 5DP 1AM   SAME TITLE                                                                        
04/19/23       (S)       DP: GIESSEL, BISHOP, CLAMAN, DUNBAR,                                                                   
                         KAUFMAN                                                                                                
04/19/23       (S)       AM: KAWASAKI                                                                                           
04/21/23       (S)       RETURNED TO RES COMMITTEE UC                                                                           
04/21/23       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/21/23       (H)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
04/24/23       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/24/23       (S)       Moved CSSB 92(2d RES) Out of Committee                                                                 
04/24/23       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
04/25/23       (S)       RES RPT CS(2D RES) 3DP 1NR 1AM NEW                                                                     
                         TITLE                                                                                                  
04/25/23       (S)       DP: GIESSEL, BISHOP, DUNBAR                                                                            
04/25/23       (S)       NR: WIELECHOWSKI                                                                                       
04/25/23       (S)       AM: KAWASAKI                                                                                           
05/01/23       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
05/01/23       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 92(2D RES)                                                                               
05/03/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
05/03/23       (H)       RES                                                                                                    
05/05/23       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
05/05/23       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
05/08/23       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
05/08/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
05/08/23       (H)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
05/10/23       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
05/10/23       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
02/19/24       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/19/24       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
02/21/24       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/21/24       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
02/28/24       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/28/24       (H)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
03/04/24       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/04/24       (H)       <Bill Hearing Rescheduled to 03/06/24>                                                                 
03/06/24       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/06/24       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
03/11/24       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KIM REITMEIER, President                                                                                                        
ANCSA Regional Association                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SB 92.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BRENT GOODRUM, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Revenue                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony on Amendment 1 to                                                                 
CSSB 92(2d RES).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:36:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCKAY  called  the   House  Resources  Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting to  order at 1:36 p.m.  Representatives Mears, Armstrong,                                                               
McCabe, Saddler, Rauscher, and McKay  were present at the call to                                                               
order.  Representatives Baker, Wright,  and Dibert arrived as the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
             HB 349-RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECT LEASES                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:36:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 349, "An  Act relating  to leases of  public land                                                               
for  renewable energy  projects; and  providing for  an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:37:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCKAY   opened  public  testimony   on  HB  349.     After                                                               
ascertaining  that there  was no  one who  wished to  testify, he                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[HB 349 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
            SB 92-STATE OWNERSHIP OF SUBMERGED LAND                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:37:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
CS FOR  SENATE BILL  NO. 92(2d  RES), "An  Act relating  to state                                                               
ownership  of submerged  land underlying  navigable water  within                                                               
the boundaries of  federal areas; and providing  for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:38:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIM REITMEIER,  President, ANCSA Regional Association,  said that                                                               
CSSB 92(2d  RES) would  reaffirm what is  "already" state  law by                                                               
adding more specific language to  affirm the state's ownership of                                                               
certain   submerged  lands.     She   said  today,   many  Native                                                               
corporations  have yet  to receive  their  entitlements to  lands                                                               
granted by  the Alaska Native  Claims Settlement Act  (ANCSA) and                                                               
The  Alaska National  Interest Lands  Conservation Act  (ANILCA).                                                               
She said that preliminary research  about the bill concluded that                                                               
there would  be no  new constitutional or  legal conflicts.   She                                                               
said that  CSSB 92(2d  RES) needs an  amendment to  include ANCSA                                                               
Regional  Association's proposed  language to  provide protection                                                               
for Alaska  Native lands  as the state  asserts title  to certain                                                               
submerged lands.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCKAY moved  to  adopt  Amendment 1  to  CSSB 92(2d  RES),                                                               
labeled 33-LS0536\U.11, Bullard, 2/26/24, which read:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "Except as provided in AS 38.04.062(f),                                                                        
     as"                                                                                                                        
          Insert "As"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 8, following "areas":                                                                                         
          Insert ", except                                                                                                      
              (1)  as provided in AS 38.04.062(f);                                                                              
               (2)  land that is privately owned; and                                                                           
               (3)  land that has been lawfully selected                                                                        
       for conveyance by a private party under a federal                                                                        
       statute but that has not yet been conveyed to the                                                                        
     private party"                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:45:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  gave his explanation of  Amendment 1.  He  said that                                                               
Amendment  1  is "primarily  a  technical  correction that  moves                                                               
substantive law  from within  the definition  of federal  area to                                                               
the body of  the bill."  He said that  this language was inserted                                                               
initially  by the  Senate, and  that the  Senate's change  was to                                                               
make  it clear  that CSSB  92(2d RES)  was meant  to assert  only                                                               
state  ownership of  submerged land  that is  currently contested                                                               
between the  state and  federal government.   He said  this would                                                               
not apply to  land that is privately owned or  land that has been                                                               
selected  but not  yet conveyed.   He  said this  amendment would                                                               
appropriately  respond to  ANCSA Regional  Association's request,                                                               
but only to the extent that CSSB 92(2d RES) is concerned.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:47:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRENT GOODRUM,  Deputy Commissioner, Department of  Revenue, gave                                                               
invited testimony  on Amendment 1 to  CSSB 92(2d RES) and  how it                                                               
relates  to current  Alaska Statute  that acknowledges  submerged                                                               
land in the  state.  He said that Amendment  1 addresses concerns                                                               
brought  forward  by  the  ANCSA  Regional  Association,  and  no                                                               
private or  ANCSA lands  would be  impacted by  this legislation.                                                               
He  concluded, "For  these  reasons, and  the  comments that  you                                                               
shared Chair McKay, the state is supportive of Amendment 1."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:49:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY thanked Mr. Goodrum for his testimony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:49:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE removed his objection.  There being no                                                                    
further objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:50:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER  moved to  report  CSSB  92(2d RES),  as                                                               
amended,  out of  committee with  individual recommendations  and                                                               
the accompanying  fiscal notes.   There  being no  objection, HCS                                                               
CSSB  92(RES)  was reported  from  the  House Resources  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:51:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Resources Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 1:51 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB92 - (H)RES Amendment #1.pdf HRES 3/11/2024 1:00:00 PM
SB 92
SB92 - (H)RES Amendment #2.pdf HRES 3/11/2024 1:00:00 PM
SB 92