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05/08/2019 01:00 PM House RESOURCES
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE
May 8, 2019
3:32 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative John Lincoln, Co-Chair
Representative Geran Tarr, Co-Chair
Representative Grier Hopkins, Vice Chair
Representative Sara Hannan
Representative Ivy Spohnholz
Representative Dave Talerico
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Chris Tuck
Representative George Rauscher
Representative Sara Rasmussen
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT
Senator Click Bishop
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
SENATE BILL NO. 95
"An Act approving the transfer of certain Alaska Railroad
Corporation land; and providing for an effective date."
- MOVED HCS SB 95(RES) OUT OF COMMITTEE
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 91(FIN)
"An Act relating to the development and operation of a
hydroelectric site at the Nuyakuk River Falls; providing for the
amendment of the management plan for the Wood-Tikchik State
Park; and providing for an effective date."
- HEARD & HELD
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: SB 95
SHORT TITLE: LAND TRANSFERS
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) COGHILL
03/22/19 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
03/22/19 (S) RES, FIN
04/05/19 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
04/05/19 (S) Moved SB 95 Out of Committee
04/05/19 (S) MINUTE(RES)
04/08/19 (S) RES RPT 4DP 1NR
04/08/19 (S) DP: BIRCH, KIEHL, GIESSEL, COGHILL
04/08/19 (S) NR: KAWASAKI
04/15/19 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
04/15/19 (S) Heard & Held
04/15/19 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
04/24/19 (S) FIN RPT 3DP 4NR
04/24/19 (S) DP: VON IMHOF, MICCICHE, BISHOP
04/24/19 (S) NR: STEDMAN, WIELECHOWSKI, OLSON,
WILSON
04/24/19 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
04/24/19 (S) Moved SB 95 Out of Committee
04/24/19 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
04/26/19 (S) TRANSMITTED TO (H)
04/26/19 (S) VERSION: SB 95
04/27/19 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
04/27/19 (H) RES
05/06/19 (H) RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124
05/06/19 (H) Heard & Held
05/06/19 (H) MINUTE(RES)
05/08/19 (H) RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124
BILL: SB 91
SHORT TITLE: NUYAKUK RIVER: HYDROELECTRIC SITE
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) HOFFMAN
03/15/19 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
03/15/19 (S) RES, FIN
04/05/19 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
04/05/19 (S) <Bill Hearing Canceled>
04/15/19 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
04/15/19 (S) Heard & Held
04/15/19 (S) MINUTE(RES)
04/22/19 (S) RES RPT 3DP 2NR
04/22/19 (S) DP: BIRCH, KIEHL, COGHILL
04/22/19 (S) NR: REINBOLD, KAWASAKI
04/22/19 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
04/22/19 (S) Moved SB 91 Out of Committee
04/22/19 (S) MINUTE(RES)
04/30/19 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
04/30/19 (S) Heard & Held
04/30/19 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
05/06/19 (S) FIN RPT CS 3DP 4NR SAME TITLE
05/06/19 (S) DP: STEDMAN, HOFFMAN, BISHOP
05/06/19 (S) NR: VON IMHOF, MICCICHE, SHOWER, WILSON
05/06/19 (S) FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532
05/06/19 (S) Moved CSSB 91(FIN) Out of Committee
05/06/19 (S) MINUTE(FIN)
05/07/19 (S) TRANSMITTED TO (H)
05/07/19 (S) VERSION: CSSB 91(FIN)
05/08/19 (H) RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124
WITNESS REGISTER
SENATOR JOHN COGHILL
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Speaking as the sponsor of SB 95, expressed
support for a forthcoming amendment to the bill.
JAMES KUBITZ, Vice President
Real Estate and Facilities
Alaska Railroad Corporation
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 95.
DAVE STANCLIFF
Tok, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in regard to SB 95.
REPRESENTATIVE BRYCE EDGMON
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced CSSB 91(FIN).
ACTION NARRATIVE
3:32:17 PM
CO-CHAIR GERAN TARR called the House Resources Standing
Committee meeting to order at 3:32 p.m. Representatives Hannan,
Hopkins, Talerico, Lincoln, and Tarr were present at the call to
order. Representative Spohnholz arrived as the meeting was in
progress. Senator Bishop was also in attendance.
SB 95-LAND TRANSFERS
3:32:42 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR announced that the first order of business would
be SENATE BILL NO. 95, "An Act approving the transfer of certain
Alaska Railroad Corporation land; and providing for an effective
date."
3:33:19 PM
SENATOR JOHN COGHILL, Alaska State Legislature, sponsor,
expressed his support of the forthcoming amendment to SB 95.
3:33:41 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR opened public testimony on SB 95.
JAMES KUBITZ, Vice President, Real Estate and Facilities, Alaska
Railroad Corporation, stated the Alaska Railroad Corporation's
support for SB 95. He said he doesn't have prepared testimony
and is available to answer question.
CO-CHAIR TARR closed public testimony after ascertaining no one
else wished to testify.
3:35:14 PM
The committee took a brief at-ease.
3:35:35 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO moved to adopt Amendment 1, labeled 31-
LS0678\U.2, Fisher, 4/30/19, which read:
Page 1, line 1, following "Act":
Insert "directing the sale of certain land to the
Tok Shooters Association, Inc.;"
Page 1, following line 3:
Insert a new bill section to read:
"* Section 1. The uncodified law of the State of
Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:
TRANSFER OF REAL PROPERTY TO THE TOK SHOOTERS
ASSOCIATION, INC. (a) The Department of Natural
Resources shall convey to the Tok Shooters
Association, Inc., the surface estate of the real
property used as a shooting range at Tok, Alaska,
located at Mile 1323.2 of the Alaska Highway, within
the Fairbanks Meridian, Township 18 North, Range 11
East, Section 10.
(b) In consideration for the conveyance under
(a) of this section, the Department of Natural
Resources may accept cash equivalent to the fair
market value of the land being conveyed.
(c) The Department of Natural Resources is
authorized to take actions necessary to convey the
real property described in this section to the Tok
Shooters Association, Inc., including platting,
replatting, surveying, subdividing, and other
actions."
Page 1, line 4:
Delete "Section 1"
Insert "Sec. 2"
Renumber the following bill section accordingly.
3:35:59 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR objected to Amendment 1 for discussion purposes.
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO thanked the sponsor of SB 95 for his
support of Amendment 1. He said the Tok Shooters Association,
Inc., has operated the shooting range since about 1976 via a
lease system. He recounted that years ago the Department of
Natural Resources (DNR) wasn't comfortable with the lease and so
did a no-cost lease to the Alaska Department of Fish and Game
(ADF&G). Via ADF&G, he said, the Tok Shooters Association was
able to lease state land, which the association turned into a
well-developed shooting range. He noted that with the lease
approaching 40 years old and expiring, the Tok Shooters
Association would like to purchase the property at fair market
value from the State of Alaska.
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO explained Amendment 1 would allow DNR to
convey that property to the Tok Shooters Association in
consideration of fair market value of the land being conveyed.
He said the land survey by Mathews Land Surveying, Inc., has not
yet been submitted, but the survey was paid for partly by ADF&G
funds and partly by the Tok Shooters Association. He added that
purchase of the land seems to be the best resolution to the
situation. He stated that over the years the range has supplied
the Tok Shooters Association with a safe and important place to
shoot, as well as the range being utilized for qualification of
practice by ADF&G, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Alaska State
Troopers, and Bureau of Land Management. He further noted that
hunter safety classes and bow hunting qualification are also
done at this range. He asked for the committee's support in
adding Amendment 1 to SB 95.
3:38:36 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN inquired why DNR hasn't wanted to continue
the lease. She further inquired as to whether the title of the
bill will accommodate a DNR sale of land as opposed to the title
of the bill, which is railroad transfer of land.
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO replied he is unsure why DNR doesn't
want to continue with the lease. He said it seemed awkward at
the time to do a no-cost lease to another state department and
the association's lease from ADF&G is actually a sub-lease. He
related that the Tok Shooters Association, which has over 150
members, is anxious to continue the range and [once the land is
purchased] the association would be responsible for and is ready
for all of the liability for the shooting range.
3:40:22 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN pointed out that the title of the bill is
railroad transfer of property.
REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO responded that a Concurrent Resolution
must accompany a bill that has a title change, and a resolution
to accommodate the title change is ready to go along with the
bill if Amendment 1 is adopted.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN asked whether the committee could hear
from the department.
CO-CHAIR TARR answered that no individuals from DNR are
available online.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN noted there is a DNR person in the room.
CO-CHAIR TARR replied that the individual is the legislative
liaison, but is not here today to testify or provide any input.
3:41:15 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN said she would really like to support the
amendment, but has a number of questions having most recently
dealt with a survey question in a bill she is sponsoring. She
stated she wants to ensure the survey has been vetted. She
explained she would like to know how many other shooters
associations and shooting ranges across the state are similarly
situated because the Tok Shooters Association is not the only
association that has had a relationship with leased land from
the state under a zero-cost lease. She said she wants to know
whether this year Tok will be the one and then next year there
will be a bill for nine others, or whether Tok is the only one
and is unique in its situation. She added that she wants to
understand it more clearly before she votes in support. She
said every community in Alaska needs a safe, monitored shooting
range with a community buy-in. What is being talked about here,
she continued, is not only an emotional buy-in and support for a
community but also money changing hands. Therefore, she
continued, she wants to understand the potential of how many
other properties the legislature might be looking at, given
other shooters associations could want a similar remedy.
CO-CHAIR TARR responded that there is a challenge with the
request because the committee doesn't have an individual from
DNR online and only two more minutes to work on this bill. She
noted the bill would also come up on the House floor. She noted
she is hearing and seeing confirmation from the bill sponsor
that this is a friendly amendment. She apologized for the
unusual situation.
3:43:38 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR removed her objection to Amendment 1.
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN objected.
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Hopkins, Spohnholz,
Talerico, Lincoln, and Tarr voted in favor of Amendment 1.
Representative Hannan voted against it. Therefore, Amendment 1
was adopted by a vote of 5-1.
3:44:29 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR reopened public testimony on SB 95.
DAVE STANCLIFF testified he has been involved with the Tok
Shooters Association for 30 years and the range was before his
time. Regarding why DNR was uncomfortable with the lease, he
said the range has many thousands of dollars of improvements and
has had some vandalisms and destructions from parties and
unauthorized use of the range. A gate was put up, he stated,
and members of the Tok Shooters Association and people with
permission can unlock the gate with a combination. He related
that because it is on public property, DNR is uncomfortable with
having the gate locked and not having full public access. Also,
he continued, DNR is uncomfortable due to the liability and
would prefer to have the liability with the Tok Shooters and so
the transaction makes sense from a liability standpoint.
3:46:18 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR closed public testimony on SB 95 and announced the
bill is now before the committee.
3:46:33 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN stated she would like to support the bill
on the floor, but she cannot unless she gets some information
regarding her concerns. She related that her family is a member
of two shooting ranges, the Cooper Landing shooting club and the
Craig shooting club, and she would now go look at their leases
to see if they are similarly situated as the Tok Shooters
Association in being DNR and ADF&G leases. She opined that if
one range were to be transferred for zero cost, then other
parties would also ask for a similar resolution. She said she
is interested in knowing whether DNR has only cracked down on
Tok with a gate or whether every sporting club on state land
across the state that has exercised some prudent jurisdiction of
the buildings and securing the facilities will be coming into
their leases in the near future.
3:47:38 PM
CO-CHAIR LINCOLN moved to report SB 95, labeled 31-LS0678\U, as
amended, out of committee with individual recommendations and
the accompanying fiscal notes. There being no objection, CSSB
95(RES) was reported out of the House Resources Standing
Committee.
SB 91-NUYAKUK RIVER: HYDROELECTRIC SITE
3:48:19 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR announced that the final order of business would
be CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 91(FIN), "An Act relating to the
development and operation of a hydroelectric site at the Nuyakuk
River Falls; providing for the amendment of the management plan
for the Wood-Tikchik State Park; and providing for an effective
date."
3:48:37 PM
REPRESENTATIVE BRYCE EDGMON, Alaska State Legislature, explained
that CSSB 91(FIN) would allow for a local utility based in
Dillingham to get the authority necessary to go into a nearby
state park and explore the feasibility of an in-river
hydroelectric project. The location of the project is 65-70
miles northeast of Dillingham, he said, and the bill would allow
the current statutes around the park itself to be amended.
CO-CHAIR TARR noted the House Special Committee on Fisheries
heard a presentation on the bill that indicated the natural flow
of the river at the proposed location provides a good
opportunity for an in-river hydroelectric project, but the bill
is necessary for that to happen.
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON agreed the aforementioned is correct.
3:50:44 PM
CO-CHAIR TARR stated the bill has been vetted by the other body
and is now before this body. She said the committee would like
to act on the bill at its next meeting and will be taking both
public testimony and amendments at that meeting.
[SB 91 was held over.]
3:52:16 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Resources Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:52 p.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB95 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HRES 5/6/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM SFIN 4/15/2019 9:00:00 AM SRES 4/5/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB95 Version U.PDF |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/5/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB 95 - Sectional Version U.pdf |
HRES 5/6/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB95 Fiscal Note DCCED-ARRC 3.29.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/5/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB95 Whittier CIty Resolution 3.12.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/5/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB95 ARRC Resolution 3.21.19.pdf |
HRES 5/6/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/5/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB95 Weolber & Cole Letter 3.29.19.pdf |
HRES 5/6/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/5/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB 95 Background - photos.pdf |
HRES 5/6/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM SFIN 4/15/2019 9:00:00 AM |
SB 95 |
| SB95 Whittier Condominiums Photos.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/5/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB 95 - Whittier Manor Condominium Lease.pdf |
HRES 5/6/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| Whittier Map.png |
HRES 5/6/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB 95 - Adopted Resolution Number 2019-04 - March 21 2019 ARR.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| Whittier Manor Cropped.png |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB95 amendment one (U.2) 5.7.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB95 Supporting Document for Amendment One - David Kelleyhouse 5.7.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
SB 95 |
| SB91 Sponsor Statement 3.21.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 Fiscal Note DNR-PKS 3.29.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91(FIN) Version S 5.6.19.PDF |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 Version A.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB 91 CS SB 91 (FIN) v. S Explanation.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SFIN 5/6/2019 9:00:00 AM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 BBNA Resolution 3.21.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 City of Aleknagik Resolution 3.19.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 BBNC Letter 3.19.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 City of Dillingham Resolution 3.7.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 CTC Resolution 3.12.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 NETC Resolution 11.15.17.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 Sectional Analysis 3.21.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 Nuyakuk Studies Cost Estimate.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| SB91 Nuyakuk Hydroelectric Update 2019.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM SRES 4/15/2019 3:30:00 PM |
SB 91 |
| HB99_SB91_Nushagak Cooperative Presentation_Resources.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM HRES 5/10/2019 1:00:00 PM |
HB 99 SB 91 |
| HRES_ADFG_ Invasive Species Presentation_Davis 5.8.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
Invasive Species |
| HRES_USFWS_Alaska AIS Presentation_Martin 5.8.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
Invasive Species |
| HRES_DNR Invasive Program 5-8-19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
Invasive Species |
| HRES_Stallard Invasive Species Presentation 5.8.19.pdf |
HRES 5/8/2019 1:00:00 PM |
Invasive Species |