Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 124
03/27/2006 02:00 PM House RESOURCES
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE
March 27, 2006
2:03 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Jay Ramras, Co-Chair
Representative Ralph Samuels, Co-Chair
Representative Jim Elkins
Representative Carl Gatto
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux
Representative Kurt Olson
Representative Paul Seaton
Representative Harry Crawford
Representative Mary Kapsner
MEMBERS ABSENT
All members present
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 30
Creating an Alaska Climate Impact Assessment Commission.
- MOVED CSHCR 30(RES) OUT OF COMMITTEE
HOUSE BILL NO. 307
"An Act creating the Knik River Public Use Area."
- HEARD AND HELD
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HCR 30
SHORT TITLE: AK CLIMATE IMPACT ASSESSMENT COMMISSION
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) JOULE
02/08/06 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/08/06 (H) RES, FIN
03/27/06 (H) RES AT 2:00 PM CAPITOL 124
BILL: HB 307
SHORT TITLE: KNIK RIVER PUBLIC USE AREA
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STOLTZE
05/07/05 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
05/07/05 (H) RES, FIN
03/27/06 (H) RES AT 2:00 PM CAPITOL 124
WITNESS REGISTER
REPRESENTATIVE REGGIE JOULE
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented HCR 30 as sponsor.
MIKAYLA SAITO, Intern
to Representative Reggie Joule
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding HCR 30.
GLENN JUDAY, Ph.D., Professor
University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Fairbanks, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HCR 30.
MIKE BRADLEY
Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HCR 30.
JOHN KREILKAMP, Vice President
Alaska Operations
Cruise West
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HCR 30.
TIMOTHY TREUER
Alaska Youth for Environmental Action
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HCR 30.
BRIAN DAVIES, Chair
Treasury Board
Alaska Chapter
The Nature Conservancy
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HCR 30.
BUCK LAUKITIS
North Pacific Fisheries Association
Homer, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HCR 30.
RICK STEINER
University of Alaska - Anchorage
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HCR 30.
REPRESENTATIVE BILL STOLTZE
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Speaking as the sponsor, presented HB 307.
DICK MYLIUS, Acting Director
Division of Mining, Land and Water
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding HB 307.
TODD CLARK, President
Alaska Outdoor Access Alliance
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 307.
ACTION NARRATIVE
CO-CHAIR JAY RAMRAS called the House Resources Standing
Committee meeting to order at 2:03:57 PM. Representatives
Ramras, Samuels, Elkins, Gatto, Olson, Seaton, and Crawford were
present at the call to order. Representatives LeDoux and
Kapsner arrived as the meeting was in progress.
HCR 30-AK CLIMATE IMPACT ASSESSMENT COMMISSION
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the first order of business would
be HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 30, Creating an Alaska
Climate Impact Assessment Commission.
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS moved to adopt CSHCR 30, Version 24-LS1605\F,
Kane, 3/24/06, as the working document. There being no
objection, Version F was before the committee.
REPRESENTATIVE REGGIE JOULE, Alaska State Legislature, presented
HCR 30 as sponsor. He opined that it's important for the future
of Alaska to create the Climate Impact Assessment Commission.
Alaska is beginning to see the impacts of climate change,
especially in coastal communities. He said the legislature, by
nature, is a reactive body. "We don't plan very well." The
commission would consist of: two senators, two representatives,
a member from the Denali Commission, a member from the
University of Alaska, a member from the Alaska Federation of
Natives, a member from the Alaska Conservation Alliance, a
member knowledgeable in engineering, two members who represent
affected Alaska communities, two members who represent affected
Alaska businesses, a member knowledgeable in fish and game, and
a member from the Alaska Youth for Environmental Action. The
group would be able to assess the impacts of climate change and
advise the legislature as to what it needs to do. He said
communities are already being threatened by erosion due to
global warming, which is impacting subsistence activities and
Alaska's fish and game resources.
2:11:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO said the fiscal note is equal to less than
one salary "that we pay to Arctic Power, and we're not sure
we're getting a great deal of satisfaction from them." He then
remarked that evidence for global warming is nonexistent and
referred to a novel by Michael Crichton as the premier book of
the decade dealing with global warming. He said the book will
never become a Hollywood movie since it tries to debunk the fact
that the planet is experiencing global warming. He added that
the author says the temperature fluctuation may not be
happening; "we don't really know" because of the influence of
"heat islands." He said satellites create pure data unaffected
by heat islands, and the satellites only indicate a warming of
5/100 of 1 degree. Representative Gatto repeated that there is
no evidence for global warming. He said a commission can't
compare with satellite data and, "we're duplicating something
that is already being done hundreds of times over."
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE expressed his concern with the legislature
being able to deal with future issues as readily without
Alaska's own expertise.
2:15:34 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON referred to page 3, lines 6-7, which
reads, "the public members of the commission may receive
compensation" and asked if compensation is in addition to per
diem and if it comports with other commissions.
MIKAYLA SAITO, Intern to Representative Reggie Joule, referred
to the fiscal note, which reads, in part:
Travel costs for the legislators and public members
are included in this fiscal note. ... The Commission
will have a contractual budget for phone, advertising
and other expenses and a supply budget for the
purchase of supplies and research materials.
She summarized that compensation consists of per diem and
reimbursement for travel.
2:17:45 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE clarified that the public member seats
aren't paid positions.
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON surmised that compensation isn't in the
form of a salary.
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE said that is correct.
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO inquired as to the amount of the per diem.
He mentioned an existing per diem of $400.
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER asked what commission has $400 per diem.
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS answered that the Alaska Housing Finance
Corporation per diem was increased to $400 last year. He noted
that the Juvenile Justice [Advisory Committee] has a per diem of
$35 and the Permanent Fund [Corporation Board of Trustees] has a
per diem of $400.
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE clarified that the [Alaska Climate Impact
Assessment Commission] wouldn't have a high per diem.
2:19:24 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE, in response to Co-Chair Ramras,
acknowledged that issues regarding permafrost are likely.
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS noted that this resolution doesn't mention
involvement of the University of Alaska.
MS. SAITO said there is a University of Alaska commission seat.
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS asked, "Why is there not a closer relationship
with the University since so much of this presumably is
scientifically anchored?"
2:22:44 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE explained that he attempted to keep the
number of members relatively low. He expressed his hope that
the University of Alaska, the Department of Transportation &
Public Facilities, the Alaska Department of Fish & Game, and the
Department of Environmental Conservation would act as ex-officio
members. That expertise is necessary, and while there is a
University of Alaska seat on the commission, he hopes for more
participation from the University.
2:23:37 PM
GLENN JUDAY, Ph.D., Professor, University of Alaska - Fairbanks,
explained that the earth has recently become climatically
different. He said data supporting the existence of climate
change in Alaska is abundant and referred to slide 1, showing
increasing temperatures in southern Alaska. He showed graphs of
rising temperatures in other parts of the state. He noted that
the overnight low temperatures have increased the most. Dr.
Juday referred to slide 5 showing that the growing/thawing
season is now much longer, and slide 6, which shows that the hot
summer days allow for more wildfires. He stated that all of
this warming produces many effects, for example, sea ice is
thinner and is currently at a record low extent in the Arctic
ice pack, break-up on rivers is happening earlier, the length of
the growing season has increased, lakes are drying, permafrost
temperatures are warming with some thawing, and glaciers are
holding less ice. He referred to slide 7 showing that
commercial white spruce in central Alaska grows less in warm
summers, and with additional warming, it won't grow at all.
2:29:14 PM
DR. JUDAY, in response to Representative Seaton, explained that
he selected the scenarios that produced the least warming and
the most warming. The results suggest that temperatures will
eventually become so warm that [white spruce] trees won't be
able to survive.
2:30:34 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked whether [scientists] can extrapolate
from the data the reasoning behind the warming and if so, what a
solution would be.
DR. JUDAY said that greenhouse gases have contributed to
warming. Natural variability occurs but substantial human
influence is additional.
2:33:13 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO, in regard to the increase of CO2 in the
atmosphere and warming asked, "Can you make the statement that
those two are inextricably linked?"
DR. JUDAY said [CO2 and warming] are linked in every reasonable
way that [scientists] are able to test them. He added, "That
amounts to a pretty solid and across-the-board case."
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO stated that the National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA) data indicate that temperatures on
Mars are increasing. He asked, "If it's a solar event that's
occurring on Mars and we're in between the Sun and Mars,
couldn't we attribute all of the activities that are happening
here for the same reason, and that CO2 and man's activities are
simply accompanying the other events?"
DR. JUDAY replied no; "Whatever additional effect humans are
causing from greenhouse gases are adding to whatever natural
background causes. Both are happening, neither can be ignored."
2:35:00 PM
MIKE BRADLEY, Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium, discussed
the public health impacts of climate change. He noted the
existence of melting permafrost; increased drought magnitude and
frequency; increased storm severity, including increased
precipitation and wind; and accelerated coastal and riverbank
erosion. He noted that all have public health impacts. The
majority of problems will involve sanitation infrastructure in
communities. Parasitic diseases that are spread by water are
moving north, and he added that when the quality of water is
degraded, personal hygiene suffers.
2:38:29 PM
JOHN KREILKAMP, Vice President, Alaska Operations, Cruise West,
said Cruise West supports an Alaska Climate Impact Assessment
Commission. The commission would assess current and potential
impacts of climate warming on Alaskans, the economy, and the
natural resources, and make recommendations to the legislature
to help communities plan better for the effects of the warming
environment. He said the commission won't solve global warming,
but it makes sense to have a commission that would help study
and analyze how docks, bridge, roads, and other transportation
infrastructure will be impacted.
2:41:23 PM
TIMOTHY TREUER, Alaska Youth for Environmental Action, said
climate change, regardless of the cause, is having a tremendous
impact on Alaska industries, cultures, communities, and the
livelihood of many Alaskans, particularly the youth. He said,
"Creating this commission would be a very positive proactive
step to address these problems now before they become greater in
scope and magnitude and we have to react to them."
BRIAN DAVIES, Chair, Treasury Board, Alaska Chapter, The Nature
Conservancy, remarked that it's very obvious that global warming
is happening and that Alaska is on the forefront. He said that
regardless of the cause, it makes sense to understand the
phenomenon and create a business plan for dealing with it.
2:44:45 PM
BUCK LAUKITIS, North Pacific Fisheries Association, remarked
that undoubtedly Alaska, as a coastal resource state, is at
significant risk if warming trends continue. He said that it
would be prudent to establish a systematic framework to
contemplate this debate and begin to establish policies to
address mitigation options. Storm intensity seems to be
correlated with ocean warming and the last few years have been
some of the stormiest springs and falls on record. These are
safety issues as well as insurance considerations for boats,
crew, and port infrastructure, he said. The North Pacific has
gone through extended periods of relative warmth and coolness,
with certain species doing well and others suffering. He said
the current concern is whether there's an unprecedented cycle
without a corresponding cool cycle that throws fish
distributions, overall marine productivity, and run timing all
out of whack.
2:47:55 PM
RICK STEINER, University of Alaska - Anchorage, said he supports
HCR 30, which he characterized as win-win. Almost all western
states have state-government efforts to address climate change.
He said it's a function of the government to protect the health
and welfare of its citizens, protect state property, and wisely
manage the state's natural resources. He said climate change
is, above all, an economic issue.
2:49:43 PM
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS pointed out that when the seasons get shorter
for drilling, it impacts resource development and the economy.
He wholeheartedly agrees with HCR 30, but said to be very
careful that with the formation of the commission that Alaska is
not taking a position on the cause of global warming.
Therefore, he suggested that HCR 30 relates Alaska's acceptance
of the fact that the climate is changing and what Alaska is
doing to prepare.
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS moved that the committee adopt Amendment 1, as
follows:
Page 2, line 29:
Delete "Alaska Conservation Alliance"
Insert "Department of Natural Resources"
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS said the Department of Natural Resources (DNR)
houses the regulatory environment for fish, game, oil, and
timber. He noted that the Alaska Conservation Alliance will be
an excellent source of information, but the committee must take
care with regard to the perception [the commission] presents.
He recalled Representative Joule's earlier comment that he
avoided naming a department as a member of the commission
because the departments could be used as a resource. However,
he opined that DNR covers all land use and the regulatory
environment and thus specifying DNR would be appropriate.
REPRESENTATIVE CRAWFORD objected. He related his belief that
more information is better. He acknowledged the desire to keep
the commission small, and he didn't want to limit the input that
goes into the commission. Furthermore, he recalled that there
was a good reason to have a member from the Alaska Conservation
Alliance. Therefore, he expressed his preference for DNR's
membership to be an addition rather than a deletion.
2:53:45 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER said having a member from the Alaska
Conservation Alliance is just one more Alaskan at the table.
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS commented that to have a member with a real or
perceived bias is problematic. If the perception is that this
commission is skewed either way, the results will be tainted.
2:55:09 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE noted that originally the membership of the
commission didn't include the Alaska Conservation Alliance.
However, balance is achieved by including it. He said, "We're
looking to have people from the oil industry on here." In
response to Representative Olson, he said that the Alaska
Conservation Alliance requested a seat on the commission.
2:56:13 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Gatto, Elkins,
LeDoux, Olson, Seaton, Ramras, and Samuels voted in favor of the
adoption of Amendment 1. Representatives Crawford and Kapsner
voted against it. Therefore, Amendment 1 was adopted by a vote
of 7-2.
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS then referred to page 3, line 5, and expressed
his desire to replace the youth representative recommended by
the Alaska Youth for Environmental Action group with someone
recommended by the University of Alaska Board of Regents. He
opined that a youth representative from the University of Alaska
would provide a broader background.
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE agreed that including representation from
the University Board of Regents would broaden it quite a bit.
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS expressed his hope that Youth for Environmental
Action would lobby the University of Alaska Board of Regents
with its selection, although other groups would too.
2:58:59 PM
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS moved that the committee adopt Amendment 2, as
follows:
Page 3, line 5:
Delete "Alaska Youth for Environmental Action group"
Insert "University of Alaska Board of Regents"
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON objected and asked if the member
represents Alaska youth or another university representative on
the commission. He opined that in order to obtain the broad
impact desired, the member should be a youth representative.
2:59:58 PM
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS said the representative specified in
subparagraph (B) will be a professor while the representative in
subparagraph (I) will be a youth who is not a professor.
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON removed his objection.
3:00:45 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked if the sponsor would consider it a
friendly amendment to Amendment 2 to add "based upon the
recommendations of Board of Regents and ... Alaska Association
of School Boards to gather the high school-aged youth."
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE opined that the important thing is that
young people are involved.
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS suggested that the resolution refer to the
University of Alaska Board of Regents but include a letter from
the sponsor to request notification of the various youth groups.
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX said that solves her problems.
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS, upon hearing no further objection, announced
that Amendment 2 was adopted.
3:02:42 PM
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS moved that the committee adopt Amendment 3, as
follows:
Page 4, line 13:
Delete "terminated"
Insert "re-evaluated"
There being no objection, Amendment 3 was adopted.
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO moved that the committee adopt Amendment 4,
as follows:
Page 3, line 11:
Delete "shall"
Insert "may"
REPRESENTATIVE CRAWFORD objected and inquired as to why
Representative Gatto is suggesting such a change.
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO explained that if both the House and the
Senate Resources Standing Committees are forced to provide staff
to this commission, then a fiscal note should be created.
Therefore, he opined that it shouldn't be a requirement for the
committees to assign staff to the commission.
3:04:25 PM
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS informed the committee that if HCR 30 passes he
would assign Tim Benintendi to be staff to the committee.
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS pointed out that the House Resources Standing
Committee staff is session-only staff and thus it adds another
wrinkle to the situation.
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON said he prefers the "may" language.
REPRESENTATIVE CRAWFORD said he would defer to the wishes of the
sponsor. [Representative Crawford indicated that he withdrew
his objection to Amendment 4.]
3:05:28 PM
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS, upon hearing no further objections, announced
that Amendment 4 was adopted.
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON moved that the committee adopt Conceptual
Amendment 5, as follows:
Page 3, line 7, following "compensation":
Delete ","
Insert "for"
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO objected and inquired as to the possibility
of striking the word "compensation".
3:06:31 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON said Legislative Legal and Research
Services may have included it for clarification, but Conceptual
Amendment 5 reflects his understanding that the compensation is
for per diem and reimbursement of expenses.
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO withdrew his objection.
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS, upon determining there were no further
objections, announced that Conceptual Amendment 5 was adopted.
3:06:59 PM
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS moved to report CSHCR 30, Version 24-LS1605\F,
Kane, 3/24/06, as amended, out of committee with individual
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes. There being
no objection, CSHCR 30(RES) was reported from the House
Resources Standing Committee.
3:07:23 PM
HB 307-KNIK RIVER PUBLIC USE AREA
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the final order of business would
be HOUSE BILL NO. 307, "An Act creating the Knik River Public
Use Area."
REPRESENTATIVE BILL STOLTZE, Alaska State Legislature, presented
HB 307 as sponsor. He said the affected area is in his
district, and he attempted to balance multiple use, good
management, and habitat protection. He held two fairly
extensive public hearings in Butte and has had countless
meetings with people in support of, as well as not in support
of, this bill. He said the most prevalent concern is
enforcement and resources. He noted that he has worked closely
with the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) and the Attorney
General's Office on this bill, and the enforcement language has
drastically changed from the original version. His proposed
amendment would allow outside entities to support enforcement.
He remarked that the Matanuska-Susitna motorized users are
skeptical of a management plan, but he convinced them of a
multiple-use plan that protects habitat. He stated that the
Butte Community Council endorsed the bill. The Matanuska-
Susitna Borough endorsed the concept of a public use area in
their resolution, without endorsing this actual bill.
3:15:15 PM
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS moved to adopt CSHB 307, Version 24-LS0737\I,
Bullock, 3/15/06, as the working document. There being no
objection, Version I was before the committee.
DICK MYLIUS, Acting Director, Division of Mining, Land and
Water, Department of Natural Resources, said the division had
concerns with the original draft, which has been addressed in
the CS. He affirmed that the concept of a public-use area has a
lot of public support, but there are concerns regarding
management. He explained that this bill would set aside
approximately 264,000 acres of state land as a public-use area,
which is a multiple-use area open to mining and logging. He
noted that it would start near Butte, and the western end of the
area is within a mile of the old Glen Highway, which has trail
access and fairly heavy public use. Some of the areas further
to the east are more remote, including a portion of the Knik
Glacier and some valleys that drain south into the Knik River.
It includes a large area of the Knik River flats, which is
popular for off-road vehicle use. He said this bill requires a
management plan from DNR because there are competing ideas as to
how this area should be managed. This bill also gives DNR
enforcement authority, which is important because of the area's
extensive abuse by the public. He referred to an Alaska State
Trooper report on the activities they have been called for. It
is a dumping ground for people to trash and burn vehicles, and a
management presence is necessary, he opined.
3:20:47 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked about any current designations.
MR. MYLIUS responded that it's just general state land with no
particular designation.
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked why page 2, Section 41.23.190(c),
reads, "The Knik River Public Use Area may not be managed as a
unit of the state park system."
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE said it's a different type of management,
and there is language which will allow park enforcement but not
management and promulgation of regulations.
3:24:18 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked whether citation authority is
included in arrest authority.
MR. MYLIUS confirmed that citation authority is included in
arrest authority. He mentioned that the Attorney General's
Office helped draft the bill.
REPRESENTATIVE CRAWFORD asked, "Are there any private land
holders in this area, and would this change the way they're able
to manage their land?"
3:25:12 PM
REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE surmised that there are private land
holders and explained that since it is state land, this bill
would not affect their use of their land.
MR. MYLIUS clarified that only state land and water are included
in this bill. He said there are some private lands within this
geographic area, primarily owned by the Eklutna Corporation.
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON said page 2, [Section 41.23.190](d) reads,
"With the assistance of the United States Army Corps of
Engineers, the commissioner shall identify wetland areas within
the Knik River Public Use Area and provide for the protection
and use of the wetland areas in the management plan." He said
the Army Corps of Engineers produced a Geographic Information
Systems (GIS) map from satellite data on the Kenai Peninsula and
classified the entire lower peninsula as wetlands. "Are we
setting ourselves up for a problem?" he asked.
MR. MYLIUS responded that DNR is simply requesting help with
identifying wetlands. He added that because the Army Corps of
Engineers has regulatory authority over wetlands, it will be
useful to have its assistance in identifying those areas.
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON stated that he wants DNR to investigate
what has happened on the lower Kenai Peninsula with the GIS
identification of all of Homer [as wetlands].
3:28:21 PM
TODD CLARK, President, Alaska Outdoor Access Alliance, said the
alliance is comprised of many access organizations, mostly from
Southcentral Alaska. The objective of the alliance is to
maximize the legitimate use of a resource similar to this. He
mentioned that motorized users recognize that there's a lot of
illegal use [of this area], but they're reluctant to support any
form of management. Management is necessary, and the specific
provisions that users are most interested in are the protection
for existing trails and the management objective that this area
be a destination for motorized users. In regard to the lakes
and streams in this area, the salmon population is excellent,
the moose population is optimal for the amount of habitat, and
waterfowl are healthy and strong.
3:33:02 PM
MR. MYLIUS, in response to Representative Gatto, confirmed that
mining will be allowed, but it will require a permit.
[HB 307 was held over.]
3:34:29 PM
ADJOURNMENT
The House Resources Standing Committee meeting was recessed at
3:34 p.m. to a call of the chair.
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