Legislature(1993 - 1994)
03/31/1993 08:00 AM House RES
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HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE
March 31, 1993
8:00 a.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Bill Williams, Chairman
Representative Bill Hudson, Vice Chairman
Representative Con Bunde
Representative Pat Carney
Representative John Davies
Representative Joe Green
Representative Jeannette James
Representative Eldon Mulder
Representative David Finkelstein
MEMBERS ABSENT
None
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT
Representative Harley Olberg
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HB 197: "An Act making an appropriation to the Alyeska
Settlement Fund and making appropriations from the
Alyeska Settlement Fund; and providing for an
effective date."
PASSED FROM COMMITTEE WITH A DO PASS
RECOMMENDATION
*HB 239: "An Act relating to raffles and auctions of
certain permits to take big game; and providing
for an effective date."
CSHB 239 (RES) ADOPTED AND PASSED FROM COMMITTEE
WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION
(* first public hearing)
WITNESS REGISTER
Representative Harley Olberg
Alaska House of Representatives
State Capitol, Room 110
Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182
Phone: 465-4859
Position Statement: Prime Sponsor of HB 197
Paul Fuhs, Commissioner
Department of Commerce and Economic Development
P.O. Box 110800
Juneau, Alaska 99811-0800
Phone: 465-2500
Position Statement: Supported HB 197
Representative Con Bunde
Alaska House of Representatives
State Capitol, Room 112
Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182
Phone: 465-4843
Position Statement: Prime Sponsor of HB 239
Dave Kelleyhouse, Director
Division of Wildlife Conservation
Alaska Department of Fish and Game
Box 25526
Juneau, Alaska 99802
Phone: 465-4190
Position Statement: Supported HB 239
PREVIOUS ACTION
BILL: HB 197
SHORT TITLE: APPROP: ALYESKA SETTLEMENT
BILL VERSION:
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) OLBERG
TITLE: "An Act making an appropriation to the Alyeska
Settlement Fund and making appropriations from the Alyeska
Settlement Fund; and providing for an effective date."
JRN-DATE JRN-PG ACTION
03/03/93 520 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)
03/03/93 520 (H) STATE AFF, OIL & GAS,
RESOURCES, FINANCE
03/23/93 (H) STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102
03/23/93 (H) MINUTE(STA)
03/24/93 756 (H) STA RPT CS(STA) 3DP 2DNP
2NR
03/24/93 757 (H) DP: VEZEY, OLBERG, SANDERS
03/24/93 757 (H) DNP: ULMER, B.DAVIS
03/24/93 757 (H) NR: G.DAVIS, KOTT
03/27/93 (H) MINUTE(FIN)
03/29/93 (H) O&G AT 05:00 PM CAPITOL 124
03/29/93 (H) MINUTE(O&G)
03/30/93 852 (H) O&G RPT 4DP 1NR
03/30/93 852 (H) DP: KOTT, G.DAVIS, OLBERG,
SITTON
03/30/93 852 (H) DP: SANDERS
03/31/93 871 (H) RES RPT 6DP 3NR
03/31/93 871 (H) DP: HUDSON, CARNEY, JAMES,
MULDER
03/31/93 871 (H) DP: BUNDE, WILLIAMS
03/31/93 871 (H) NR: GREEN, FINKELSTEIN, DAVIES
03/31/93 (H) RES AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 124
BILL: HB 239
SHORT TITLE: RAFFLE OR AUCTION OF BIG GAME PERMITS
BILL VERSION: CSHB 239(RES) AM
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) BUNDE,Brice,Mulder
TITLE: "An Act relating to raffles and auctions of certain
permits to take big game; and providing for an effective
date."
JRN-DATE JRN-PG ACTION
03/19/93 708 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)
03/19/93 708 (H) RESOURCES, FINANCE
03/31/93 (H) RES AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 124
03/31/93 903 (H) COSPONSOR(S): MULDER
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 93-40, SIDE A
Number 000
The House Resources Committee was called to order by
Chairman Bill Williams at 8:12 a.m. Members present at the
call to order were Representatives Williams, Bunde, Carney,
Davies, James, Finkelstein and Mulder. Members absent at
the call were Representatives Green and Hudson.
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS announced a quorum was present and
introduced the sponsor of the first item on the meeting's
agenda, HB 197.
HB 197: APPROP: ALYESKA SETTLEMENT
Number 029
REPRESENTATIVE HARLEY OLBERG, PRIME SPONSOR OF HB 197,
explained that the bill would appropriate approximately
$28.2 million from the Alyeska settlement. He referred to
the agreement and consent decree dated November 25, 1992,
entered into between the United States, the State of Alaska
and Alyeska. Of that amount, he said that $14.5 million
would go toward docks and storage facilities, $6 million
would be for construction of a road from Cordova to Shepherd
Point, $7.5 million would be for the acquisition of land for
Kachemak Bay State Park, and $200,000 would purchase
communications equipment.
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG noted that the original request was
over $31 million, and the difference is accounted for by $2
million paid to the federal government for expenses incurred
in the lawsuit. He noted further that $1.5 million has
already been paid to the state of Alaska as reimbursement
for lost raw fish taxes. The key elements in the settlement
agreement he said were: 1) the way the money is to be used
is specified; and 2) a blackmail clause is included so that
if the projects are not authorized by September 15, 1993,
the funds revert to the trustees.
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG also noted that the trustees had spent
approximately $200 million with no visible sign of it in
Prince William Sound or any other spill-affected area.
Number 102
REPRESENTATIVE DAVID FINKELSTEIN asked Representative Olberg
to describe the difference between the amount in the House
State Affairs committee substitute (CS) and the original
version of HB 197.
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG noted that he was working off the
original version and not the State Affairs CS.
Number 120
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN asked if the committee might also
see a copy of the settlement agreement.
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG offered to briefly read from the
settlement agreement: "If the acquisition [of Kachemak Bay
State Park] is rendered impossible because these funds have
not been appropriated for the purpose specified by December
31, 1993, the funds allocated for this project will be
phased into the joint trust fund." He then described the
allocation of funds for the other projects if they did not
materialize, and said those monies also would revert to the
joint trust fund.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN referred to the State Affairs CS
and asked if the difference resulted from that committee
taking out the Kachemak Bay buy-back.
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG answered that this was correct. He
noted that after the State Affairs committee adopted its CS,
the House Special Committee on Oil and Gas re-adopted the
original version of HB 197.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN asked about the legal effect on
the settlement if the distribution of the monies was
tampered with, and whether that would render it moot.
Number 169
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG answered that if the agreement were
tampered with, it was his understanding it would be rendered
moot, and the funds would revert to the trustees.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN suggested the committee seek the
advice of legislative legal counsel on the issue of what
happens if any changes are made.
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG noted that Crag Tillery of the
Attorney General's office had testified at the State Affairs
committee hearing and related the same opinion. He also
clarified for Representative Bunde that the original version
of HB 197 mirrored the settlement agreement.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN was still curious about what
would happen if the distribution of funds were tampered with
or changed.
Number 200
VICE CHAIRMAN BILL HUDSON arrived late and asked for an
explanation of the difference in appropriation amounts
between the State Affairs CS and the original version of
HB 197.
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG explained the amounts again for
Representative Hudson's benefit.
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS noted for the record that Representatives
Hudson and Green had joined the meeting.
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN DAVIES asked if there was a reason the
State Affairs committee had removed the funding for the
Kachemak Bay State Park.
Number 217
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG replied that yes, there was a reason.
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON asked if the administration had taken a
stand on HB 197.
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG told him that HB 197 was the
administration's bill, and that they had no hint of
reservation. He added that the attorney general had drafted
the settlement on which the bill was based.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN asked why the site at Shepherd
Point had been selected, and how that site fits into oil
spill response plans.
REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG said its significance is that it is
the nearest physical location to Cordova where a deep water
port could be built which could accommodate a large vessel.
Number 250
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON added to that explanation, and said
that most waterways around Cordova are shallow and, in fact,
after the earthquake in 1964 the area went dry. Shepherd
Point, he said, was a good place to position equipment for
response to any spill that might occur at Knoll's Head or
other locations. He also remarked that this would be an
excellent economic development opportunity for Cordova,
because the port could be used by tour ships. He liked the
idea of a port at Shepherd Point.
Number 268
REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE offered a MOTION to move HB 197
from committee with individual recommendations.
Number 280
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN still had concerns about the
Shepherd Point Road site and how it fits into the state's
overall spill response plan. He wanted the legislature to
hear from the Department of Environmental Conservation and
from Crag Tillery of the Department of Law, but said that he
would not object to the motion.
Number 302
PAUL FUHS, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (DCED), testified that the
administration supports the Kachemak Bay State Park
purchase. The interest there is not in the timber, he said,
but rather in the recreation and tourism potential. In the
Senate version of HB 197, he said, money would go to Chugach
Corporation through the DCED, and that would have to be
resolved somehow with HB 197. The rationale on the Senate
side, he explained, was to reduce overhead to the Department
of Transportation.
MR. FUHS added that another reason was that the DCED had
been working closely with the communities involved in dock
and storage development, tourism, and other economic
development. The DCED has also worked with the City of
Cordova on the Shepherd Point project, he said.
Number 320
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN asked how Chugach Corporation
enters the picture. He said they were not mentioned in
HB 197.
MR. FUHS noted that the regional corporation has an
agreement with some of the village corporations to do the
projects included in HB 197.
Number 337
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there were any objections to the
motion to move HB 197 from committee. Hearing none, the
MOTION PASSED.
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS announced that the committee would next
take up HB 239.
HB 239: RAFFLE OR AUCTION OF BIG GAME PERMITS
Number 351
REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE, PRIME SPONSOR OF HB 239, explained
the purpose of the bill was to allow non-profit
organizations to raffle or auction off big game permits as a
revenue source for game management. He referred to
information in members' packets which described similar
programs in other states. He noted that the non-profit
which auctions the permit retains 10% for administrative
costs, while the remaining amount returns to the state for
fish and game activities.
Number 381
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN called HB 239 a good idea, but
expressed concern with provisions of the state's
Constitution that says the resources of the state are set
aside for the common use of the people. His fear was that
it could be unconstitutional to auction off permits because
only the highest bidder would have access to the resource,
while those without sufficient funds would have less access.
Number 398
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE suggested that another way to interpret
the common use provision was having the resource accessible
to the general public and providing the funding to encourage
development and enhancement of the resources. Most states,
he said, have a common use provision, and many of those
states have programs similar to the one proposed in HB 239.
Number 410
REPRESENTATIVE PAT CARNEY referred to the "qualified
organization" designated in HB 239. He asked Representative
Bunde to describe what criteria would be used to determine
these organizations.
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE explained that the most prominent
organization of this type was the North American Sheep
Foundation, which promotes the sound management of the wild
sheep of North America. Others he mentioned were the Rocky
Mountain Elk Foundation and Ducks Unlimited.
REPRESENTATIVE CARNEY asked what was the purpose of their
involvement in the process.
Number 427
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE responded that these organizations
offered access to their national and international
memberships, in addition to taking the state out of the role
of auctioneer.
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON addressed the constitutional question
previously raised. He noted that this program would be
similar to other limited access fish and game programs, such
as drawings for moose permits and other hunts where small
quotas are established. He also pointed out that in the
auction or raffles provided for in HB 239, permits would be
issued for only two animals of each species.
Number 448
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE also pointed out that Alaska already
allows the raffle of bison permits.
REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN asked Representative Bunde to
explain the graduated increases in the fiscal note, and also
asked whether increasing competition for the permits was
anticipated.
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE explained that there would be more
activity and increasing revenues from the program as people
become more aware of it.
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN referred to page 2, line 15, where
HB 239 provides for the Department of Fish and Game to end
up with what is left after the organization retains 10% and
administrative costs. He expressed concern that if the
response was low, the program might not generate revenues at
all. He asked if there was a minimum response level needed
to make the program viable.
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE replied that the program could not end
up costing the department money; if the response was low the
tag might not be issued and there would be no cost.
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN proposed a situation where the tag
might be auctioned, but the amount might be so low that
after the auctioning organization retains its 10% and
administration costs, the profit might be nonexistent or so
low that it is not of benefit to the state.
Number 506
DAVE KELLEYHOUSE, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF WILDLIFE
CONSERVATION, ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME (ADF&G),
suggested there would be little chance of the program
running a deficit. He remarked on a recent auction by the
Safari Club International which raised $3.5 million for
conservation agencies. He said the organizations involved
in these fund raising efforts have questioned why Alaska
does not have such a program. He said Alaska's mystique and
reputation for big game hunting would assure success, and
added that Alaska is one of the last Western states to
implement such a program.
MR. KELLEYHOUSE, addressing the constitutionality question
raised by Representative Finkelstein, said that this plan
fits the category of common use because of its goal to
contribute to the management of the total resource. He
explained that legislatures in other states have raised
millions of dollars by tapping into the number of wealthy
conservationists looking for a vehicle through which to make
donations.
Number 543
MR. KELLEYHOUSE remarked on budget cuts in the ADF&G,
Division of Wildlife Conservation, which have over the past
several years resulted in staffing reductions from 190
employees in the mid-1980's to 160 in 1993. He noted that
the proposed program in HB 239 would, along with other user-
pay revenue sources, provide a stable funding source for the
division's ability to manage resources.
MR. KELLEYHOUSE also pointed out that the auction/raffle
program will not diminish opportunities for resident
hunting. The permits, for two of each species, would be
issued in addition to the number of permits regularly
allocated. If problems with scarcity of species arose, he
said, the division would have the option of holding back
permits for any species in any area as deemed necessary. He
suggested that the first issued so-called "Governor's
Permits" will be prestigious and would bring in a great deal
of money. He noted that the fiscal note was conservative,
while the potential for revenues was actually much higher.
Number 580
MR. KELLEYHOUSE mentioned that Alaska would be the only
state offering permits for some unique species. Another
advantage of the program, he said, was that a number of
Alaskan guides would donate their services as part of the
package. The bid price would then include not just the
permit, but the value of a hunting guide package. He was
unaware of any substantive arguments against the program
proposed in HB 239.
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES agreed that the overall idea was good,
but had concerns with the overall gross to net revenues. He
suggested the ADF&G set up appropriate regulations and
auditing so the organizations cannot run expenses, reducing
the net revenues to Alaska.
MR. KELLEYHOUSE confirmed that if HB 239 passes, the ADF&G
would establish regulatory guidelines. He added that the
main purpose of existence for conservation organizations was
to raise money to put directly into state game management
programs. He added that they have a long history of turning
money over to state management agencies.
Number 618
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON asked Mr. Kelleyhouse to confirm that
the distribution of revenues was set up so the organization
managing the auction would get their administrative costs
plus 10%, and that the state receipts in most cases would go
directly to enhance wildlife habitat.
Number 640
MR. KELLEYHOUSE noted that he had talked with directors from
other states with similar programs, and discovered that they
regularly receive 85% or more of the proceeds from auctions
and raffles. The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, Safari Club
International and the Foundation for North American Wild
Sheep, he added, solicit research proposals and management
proposals from the ADF&G, and have given the ADF&G money
almost every year. He pointed out that the public does not
normally give the government money willingly.
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE pointed out the fact sheet in members'
files from the Foundation for North American Wild Sheep,
which he said showed that as of June, 1991, they have given
the state of Alaska $341,000 for conservation. (A copy of
the fact sheet may be found in the House Resources Committee
Room, Capitol Room 124, and after the adjournment of the
second session of the 18th Alaska State Legislature, in the
Legislative Reference Library.)
Number 649
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN expressed concern that the groups
described as playing a part in implementing HB 239 are not
clearly specified in the bill. He noted that nothing
requires the participating organization to be educational,
non-advocacy, non-lobbying groups, or that the money be used
for specific purposes. He read the language from the bill
that required groups to be non-profit organizations
established to promote the management of big game species.
He cautioned that other types of groups could be involved
and that the money they retain could be used for other
purposes.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN agreed with the intent but
recommended the bill assure that it happens as intended.
Number 668
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE pointed out that the groups discussed
are advocacy groups for wildlife conservation. He
understood Representative Finkelstein's concerns that scam
organizations should be kept from participating, but noted
that the ADF&G would select participating groups very
carefully to assure they share the goals of the ADF&G.
Number 689
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN said it was still important that
HB 239 spell out how the money must be used for the specific
purposes described by Representative Bunde. His concern was
that organizations that do lobbying might use revenues
derived from the auction of Alaska game permits to lobby
Alaska's legislature.
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES commented that if a group is concerned
with wildlife management from a non-consumptive stand, they
might be precluded from participating.
TAPE 93-40, SIDE B
Number 000
MR. KELLEYHOUSE replied that it would be unlikely that kind
of group would be able to sell a hunting permit. He
suggested that eventually the program might be adapted to
include them by offering permits for areas like the McNeil
River Bear Sanctuary or the Round Island Walrus area. He
mentioned that he does not support the antagonism and
paranoia that seems to be distinguishing Alaskans as either
consumptive or non-consumptive users. Most Alaskans fall
into both categories, he said.
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES said that was the direction he had in
mind, raising money from another set of constituents.
Number 055
REPRESENTATIVE ELDON MULDER felt comfortable with the
definition of groups contained in HB 239.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN agreed that the language was
adequate for defining groups, but reiterated the need to
specify the limitations on use of the monies raised. He
said the current administration may understand the intention
of HB 239, but there was no guarantee that future
administrations might not interpret it differently. He
suggested language be added to designate that "qualified
organizations shall use the amount received and account for
it for ethical research and game management purposes."
Number 111
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON did not want language added that would
tie the hands of the participating organizations. He agreed
that HB 239 should bar the use of funds for political
contributions or lobbying. He noted that it was not
uncommon to include that sort of language when dealing with
non-profits, and suggested an amendment to read: "None of
the proceeds of these funds shall be used to lobby the
legislature or donated for political contributions." This,
he said, would preclude these activities, no matter who
heads the administration of the state at any time in the
future.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN agreed with Representative
Hudson.
MR. KELLEYHOUSE explained that as written, HB 239 would
dedicate monies into the fish and game fund. Alaska Statute
16.05.100 spells out specifically what the uses of those
funds are, he said.
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON clarified that it was not the portion
of funds returning to the department that was a concern, but
rather the portion retained by the organization.
Number 147
REPRESENTATIVE JEANNETTE JAMES registered her concern that
in telling the organizations how they are to use funds, the
state would put itself in a position of having to audit
those organizations in order to assure compliance with the
requirements.
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE remarked that if the legislature limits
the use of funds, they would have to define lobbying and
advocacy, because a primary function of some of the groups
may be advocacy for conservation. This could be considered
lobbying, he said. He agreed with the language suggested
that would bar political contributions.
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON asked if barring only political
contributions would meet the intent of the committee
members.
Number 176
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN said they would not be precluded
from lobbying with the rest of their budgets, just with the
portion obtained from their partnership with the ADF&G.
Other non-profits are similarly barred from using state-
derived money for lobbying.
Number 180
REPRESENTATIVE CARNEY referred to Representative James'
comments on the need to monitor or audit the budgets of the
non-profit organizations. He said that it was assumed that
these organizations were honest and that if the law said
they could not use funds for the purpose of lobbying, they
would honor that.
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there was a formal amendment to
be offered.
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE commented that there was no way to keep
track of how a specific portion of money is spent within an
organization if the proceeds go directly into a general
budget.
Number 210
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN said it would depend on the
accounting system of a particular organization, and added
that non-profits often have limitations on how money is
spent and so they account for the spending to ensure funds
go to designated purposes.
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE asked Mr. Kelleyhouse to comment on the
proposed amendment.
MR. KELLEYHOUSE remarked that if too many strings are
attached to the program, it could deter organizations from
conducting operations and promoting the auctions. He agreed
that basically the organizations are honest and said many
have been in existence for decades and have firmly
established reputations.
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS agreed that the organizations were
generally honest in tracking and reporting how funds are
used. Generally, he said, funds are moved within an
organization's accounting system.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN followed up Mr. Kelleyhouse's
comments by saying that he didn't see any problem with
specifically stating that funds could not be used for
political purposes.
Number 260
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON offered an AMENDMENT to add, on line
27, after the word "subsection" or wherever applicable in
the (b) section, "none of the proceeds of these funds shall
be used for political contributions." He explained that
this would leave the lobbying and advocacy language out, but
would meet the intent to keep funds from political purposes.
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE said he would accept that as a friendly
amendment.
Number 283
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN voiced concern that some legitimate
organizations who do, as a part of their activities, make
political contributions, might be seen as violating the
intent of the program.
Number 294
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN clarified that most non-profits
get grants and are required under the terms of a grant to
account for how the money is spent. There is not a problem
of intermixing funds, he explained, and the expenditures
toward authorized purposes are accounted for as a routine
part of business. It would be common to put a requirement
on it. One restriction would not mean that the
organization's other funding sources could not be used for
political purposes.
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS commented that this might drive away
people by putting restrictions on how they spend their
money.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN again stated that lobbying would
be allowed under the suggested amendment.
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS noted that the legislature would have to
look at what the organization is that is lobbying, and how
the organization would view the restrictions.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN noted again that it is routine
for non-profits to have restrictions on spending certain
revenues and to have to account for that spending.
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked the committee to take action on the
amendment on the table.
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN repeated his amendment,
"qualified organizations shall not use the proceeds for
lobbying or political purposes."
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked members to indicate whether they
were in favor of the motion. There were objections and the
MOTION WAS DEFEATED.
Number 364
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON offered an AMENDMENT to line 27, after
the period, to read: "None of the proceeds of these funds
shall be used for political contributions."
REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN suggested that language be
changed to say "political activities" rather than
contributions.
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON declined the friendly amendment and
said it would not work to bar all political activities. He
explained that the organizations should still be entitled to
do their advocacy work, but should be barred specifically
from contributing to political candidates' campaigns.
Number 374
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS called for a roll call vote on Vice
Chairman Hudson's amendment. Voting YEA were
Representatives Hudson, Bunde, Carney, Davies, Finkelstein
and Williams. Voting NO were Representatives James, Green
and Mulder. The MOTION PASSED.
Number 380
VICE CHAIRMAN HUDSON made a MOTION to pass HB 239 as amended
with the fiscal note out of committee with individual
recommendations. He asked unanimous consent.
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there were objections. Hearing
none, the MOTION PASSED.
Number 397
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES was uncomfortable with the procedure
of the committee in not calling for a roll call vote on
Representative Finkelstein's amendment.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS announced the committee would not meet on
Friday, April 2, 1993. The next meeting, he said, would be
on Monday, April 5.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the House
Resources Committee, Chairman Williams adjourned the meeting
at 9:20 a.m.
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