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01:13:37 PM Start
01:14:12 PM SJR15
01:49:49 PM Big Game Commercial Services Board
01:56:49 PM Board of Fisheries
02:04:44 PM Commissioner, Department of Natural Resources
03:06:02 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 287 APPROVE TESORO ROYALTY OIL SALE TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ SJR 15 OPPOSE INTERNATIONAL DESIGNATING OF LAND TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS SJR 15(RES) Out of Committee
+ Confirmation Hearings: TELECONFERENCED
- Commissioner Joe Balash, Dept. of Natural
Resources
- Board of Fisheries
- Big Game Commerical Services Board
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 3, 2014                                                                                          
                           1:13 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eric Feige, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Dan Saddler, Co-Chair                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 15                                                                                                  
Opposing any  international designation  of Alaska land  or water                                                               
as  an   international  park,  world  heritage   site,  biosphere                                                               
reserve, Ramsar  site, or other  classification of land  or water                                                               
that affects the use  of land or water by the  state or an Alaska                                                               
Native  corporation   without  approval  by  the   United  States                                                               
Congress and the Alaska State  Legislature; requesting the United                                                               
States Department  of State and  the United States  Department of                                                               
the  Interior  to   cease  all  further  action   related  to  an                                                               
international designation for  land and water in  the state until                                                               
the  action is  approved by  the United  States Congress  and the                                                               
Alaska  State  Legislature;  requesting that  the  United  States                                                               
Congress  pass legislation  requiring  Congressional approval  of                                                               
any international  designation that  affects the  use of  land or                                                               
water  by the  state or  the United  States; requesting  that the                                                               
governor be involved in the  process and development of any joint                                                               
action   plan;  requesting   that   the   state,  including   the                                                               
departments responsible  for the management of  fish and wildlife                                                               
and  other  natural  resources,  be   an  integral  part  of  any                                                               
discussion,  agreement,  understanding,  or  other  process  that                                                               
affects the  use or  development of fish  and wildlife  and other                                                               
natural resources in  the state; and urging the  governor and the                                                               
attorney general  to reserve all  legal remedies for a  taking of                                                               
the  natural   resources  of  the   state  by   an  international                                                               
designation of land and water in the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HCS SJR 15(RES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Michelle Metz                                                                                                         
          Gene Peltola                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Board Of Fisheries                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Frederick "Fritz" Johnson                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Commissioner - Department Of Natural Resources                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Joe Balash                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 287                                                                                                              
"An Act approving and ratifying the sale of royalty oil by the                                                                  
State of Alaska to Tesoro Corporation and Tesoro Refining and                                                                   
Marketing Company LLC; and providing for an effective date."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR 15                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: OPPOSE INTERNATIONAL DESIGNATING OF LAND                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) GIESSEL                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
01/22/14       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/22/14       (S)       RES                                                                                                    
02/08/14       (S)       RES AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/08/14       (S)       Moved SJR 15 Out of Committee                                                                          
02/08/14       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
02/10/14       (S)       RES RPT  5DP                                                                                           
02/10/14       (S)       DP: GIESSEL, MICCICHE, BISHOP, DYSON,                                                                  
                         FAIRCLOUGH                                                                                             
02/18/14       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
02/18/14       (S)       VERSION: SJR 15                                                                                        
02/19/14       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/19/14       (H)       RES                                                                                                    
03/03/14       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
JANE CONWAY, Staff                                                                                                              
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  On behalf of the prime sponsor, Senator                                                                  
Giessel, explained the changes in the proposed committee                                                                        
substitute (CS) for SJR 15, Version N.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CATHY GIESSEL                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as prime sponsor of SJR 15.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STAN LEAPHART, Executive Director                                                                                               
Citizens' Advisory Commission on Federal Areas (CACFA)                                                                          
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SJR 15.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEANTHA CROCKETT, Executive Director                                                                                            
Alaska Miners Association, Inc. (AMA)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SJR 15.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MARLEANNA HALL, Projects Coordinator                                                                                            
Resources Development Council (RDC)                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SJR 15.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE METZ, Appointee                                                                                                        
Big Game Commercial Services Board (BGCSB)                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as an appointee to the Big Game                                                                
Commercial Services Board.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
GENE PELTOLA, Appointee                                                                                                         
Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                                              
Bethel, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Big Game                                                                   
Commercial Services Board.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
FREDERICK "FRITZ" JOHNSON, Appointee                                                                                            
Board of Fisheries                                                                                                              
Dillingham, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  as appointee  to  the Board  of                                                             
Fisheries (BOF).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JOE BALASH, Commissioner Designee                                                                                               
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  as commissioner designee  to the                                                             
Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:13:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  PEGGY WILSON  called  the  House Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to order at  1:13 p.m.  Representatives Hawker,                                                               
Johnson, Olson,  Seaton, and P.  Wilson were present at  the call                                                               
to  order.   Representatives  Kawasaki and  Tarr  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        SJR 15-OPPOSE INTERNATIONAL DESIGNATING OF LAND                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:14:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  PEGGY  WILSON  announced that  the  first  order  of                                                               
business would  be SENATE JOINT  RESOLUTION NO. 15,  Opposing any                                                               
international  designation   of  Alaska  land  or   water  as  an                                                               
international  park,  world  heritage  site,  biosphere  reserve,                                                               
Ramsar  site,  or other  classification  of  land or  water  that                                                               
affects  the use  of land  or  water by  the state  or an  Alaska                                                               
Native  corporation   without  approval  by  the   United  States                                                               
Congress and the Alaska State  Legislature; requesting the United                                                               
States Department  of State and  the United States  Department of                                                               
the  Interior  to   cease  all  further  action   related  to  an                                                               
international designation for  land and water in  the state until                                                               
the  action is  approved by  the United  States Congress  and the                                                               
Alaska  State  Legislature;  requesting that  the  United  States                                                               
Congress  pass legislation  requiring  Congressional approval  of                                                               
any international  designation that  affects the  use of  land or                                                               
water  by the  state or  the United  States; requesting  that the                                                               
governor be involved in the  process and development of any joint                                                               
action   plan;  requesting   that   the   state,  including   the                                                               
departments responsible  for the management of  fish and wildlife                                                               
and  other  natural  resources,  be   an  integral  part  of  any                                                               
discussion,  agreement,  understanding,  or  other  process  that                                                               
affects the  use or  development of fish  and wildlife  and other                                                               
natural resources in  the state; and urging the  governor and the                                                               
attorney general  to reserve all  legal remedies for a  taking of                                                               
the  natural   resources  of  the   state  by   an  international                                                               
designation of land and water in the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:15:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  moved to  adopt Version  U as  the working                                                               
document.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON objected for discussion purposes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:15:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANE  CONWAY,   Staff,  Senator   Cathy  Giessel,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  stated   the  current   version  of   the  proposed                                                               
committee substitute (CS) for SJR 15 is Version N.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CATHY  GIESSEL, Alaska State Legislature,  clarified that                                                               
the original version of SJR 15 was Version U.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:16:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER withdrew his motion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:17:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS) for  SJR 15,  Version  N, [labeled  28-LS1192/N,                                                               
Bullock, 2/28/14] as the working document.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON objected for discussion purposes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:17:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CONWAY  explained that Version  N makes three  small changes:                                                               
On  page 2,  line 26,  changes  "National Park  Service" to  "the                                                               
federal  government";  on page  3,  line  8, changes  "would"  to                                                               
"potentially could  evolve into" and  on page 4, line  6, changes                                                               
"would"  to "could."   In  response  to a  question, stated  that                                                               
these changes do not at all alter the message of SJR 15.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:18:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON removed  his objection.   There  being no                                                               
further objection, Version N was before the committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P. WILSON opened public testimony on SJR 15.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:19:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON   requested  a   brief  overview   of  the                                                               
resolution for the public.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  stated that  SJR 15 is  similar to  a resolution                                                               
that several committee members sponsored  in 2007 that passed the                                                               
legislature.  She  noted this is not a new  issue.  She explained                                                               
that  Beringia is  a designated  international park  in Northwest                                                               
Alaska.   She  advised  that this  represents  another taking  of                                                               
Alaska land.   She  acknowledged the  committee is  familiar with                                                               
the  Alaska National  Interest Lands  Conservation Act  (ANILCA).                                                               
The third element  in ANILCA indicates that Alaska  has given its                                                               
share of lands for federal  conservation units.  She related that                                                               
ANILCA also contains  a "no more clause" noting  that Alaska need                                                               
not give  any more land.   However, after ANILCA passed  in 1985,                                                               
the National Park  Service (NPS) began to capture  land to create                                                               
the  Bering Land  Bridge National  Preserve  thereby taking  more                                                               
land.  In the early  1990s informal discussions between President                                                               
George  Bush  and  President Gorbachev  were  held  proposing  an                                                               
international park  designation that  would consist of  land from                                                               
Russia and land in Alaska.   In 2013, Russia formally established                                                               
the Beringia National  Park on the Chukotka  Peninsula in Russia.                                                               
This  would be  joined  with the  Beringia  Land Bridge  National                                                               
Preserve on  the Seward Peninsula  and Cape  Krusenstern National                                                               
Monument just  north of  Kotzebue.  She  summarized that  this is                                                               
Russian  land and  Alaska's land  creating an  international park                                                               
designation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:22:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL noted that in  October 2013 another Memorandum of                                                               
Understanding (MOU)  was developed and is  now awaiting signature                                                               
of  the president  to  finalize  this international  designation.                                                               
The  purpose   of  the  park   would  be  to   consider  culture,                                                               
environment, and conduct  research in the protected  area.  While                                                               
this may  sound nice, Governor  Parnell has  not been a  party to                                                               
these discussions, nor has the  legislature, and Congress has not                                                               
been invited  to discuss or chime  in on this designation.   This                                                               
designation   falls  under   the   United  Nations   Educational,                                                               
Scientific, and  Cultural Organization.   After  Cape Krusenstern                                                               
National Monument  and the Bering  Land Bridge  National Preserve                                                               
designations,  further  United  Nations  organizations'  criteria                                                               
applied to  other areas.   For  example, she  pointed out  that a                                                               
proposed  road  that  would  go  through  the  Izembek  [National                                                               
Wildlife Refuge], which is a  Ramsar Convention [list of wetlands                                                               
of international  importance] site,  but it  was declined  due to                                                               
concern about  grasses and birds.   She reiterated that  this has                                                               
been designated a Ramsar Convention site by the United Nations.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  related that Alaska  World Heritage  sites, also                                                               
designated  by  the  United  Nations   include  Glacier  Bay  and                                                               
Wrangell-St. Elias Park,  as well as Denali  National Park, which                                                               
is a  biosphere reserve.  She  stated there is an  "ongoing push"                                                               
for a buffer zone around Denali  National Park and Preserve.  She                                                               
stated  that pushing  for  a buffer  zone is  one  path taken  to                                                               
expand the size of a preserve.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:24:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL pointed  out  although  these designations  seem                                                               
harmless,  similar  ones   have  curtailed  resource  development                                                               
around the  world.   This resolution  expresses her  concern that                                                               
terms such as "sustainable development"  that are commonly stated                                                               
by  the  United Nations  and  the  federal government  will  mean                                                               
restricted development.   She advised that the  governor has sent                                                               
letters   to  [former]   Secretary  of   State  Hilary   Clinton,                                                               
expressing his  concern.  U.S. Senator  Murkowski and Congressman                                                               
Don Young have asked U.S.  Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell                                                               
and  Secretary of  State John  Kerry to  stop and  listen to  the                                                               
State of Alaska on this issue.   Similarly, the leadership in the                                                               
other  body  has  written  a similar  letter  and  the  Citizens'                                                               
Advisory  Commission on  Federal  Areas (CACFA)  has listed  this                                                               
international park as a primary priority concern.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL stated that the purpose  of SJR 15 is to raise an                                                               
awareness that  this proposal  has not gone  away, but  has moved                                                               
forward.   She  reported that  an MOU  signed by  Russia and  the                                                               
Secretary  of State  is awaiting  President Obama's  signature to                                                               
finalize the document.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:25:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER pointed out  the final resolve clause urges                                                               
the governor  and the  attorney general  to seek  legal remedies,                                                               
but they  are not on the  list of people who  will receive copies                                                               
of this resolution.  He suggested they should be added.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL agreed that is a good suggestion.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:26:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAWASAKI requested a  specific example of how this                                                               
designation  has hampered  development  of  natural resources  in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL deferred to her staff, Jane Conway.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. CONWAY answered  that the most recent example  is the Izembek                                                               
Road from Cold  Bay to King Salmon.  She  remarked that this road                                                               
as  a Ramsar  site  was touted  as  a reason  for  denial.   This                                                               
decision cited the  Black Headed Brant and the  protection of the                                                               
eel  grass in  the area  [as the  basis for  the denial.]     The                                                               
purpose  of this  resolution  is that  it  could possibly  hamper                                                               
development in  the state if  the international  designations are                                                               
allowed without Alaska's or Congressional approval.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:28:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAWASAKI asked for some  of the benefits to Alaska                                                               
and Russia in having an MOU in place regarding the Beringia.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL said  she cannot  think of  a single  benefit of                                                               
having  this MOU  in place.   It  is an  additional international                                                               
taking that has no benefit.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:29:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR  pointed out that  the lands in  question are                                                               
federal  lands.   She  referred  to  a  map in  members'  packets                                                               
entitled  "Proposed   Transboundary  Area  of   Shared  Beringian                                                               
Heritage"  and to  the  proposed  contributions to  International                                                               
Protected  Area -  Pending  Designation.   She  said these  lands                                                               
appear  to  all  be  federal  and  native  lands  so  it  may  be                                                               
appropriate   for   the   federal  government   to   have   these                                                               
deliberations about federal  lands.  She asked  whether any state                                                               
lands are included.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  answered yes;  naming  the  Bering Land  Bridge                                                               
National  Preserve and  the  Cape  Krusenstern National  Monument                                                               
north of Kotzebue.  She outlined  the challenge, that the NPS web                                                               
site   describes  Beringia   by   latitude   and  longitude   and                                                               
geographical location.   Beringia actually extends to  the top of                                                               
Alaska and  to the Mackenzie  River in  Canada, to the  bottom of                                                               
the Kamchatka Peninsula, about parallel  to the Aleutian Islands.                                                               
This essentially  would encompass  the entire  state.   She noted                                                               
the significant oil and mining resources.   The road from the Red                                                               
Dog Mine to tidewater had  to cross Cape Krusenstern and required                                                               
an act  of Congress  to build  the road.   She  expressed concern                                                               
that  if this  becomes internationally  designated, Alaska  would                                                               
have significant barriers to resource development.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:32:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR understood  the  concern is  related to  the                                                               
larger designation.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL explained that these  designations tend to expand                                                               
over time.   This  is U.S.  land, so she  did not  understand the                                                               
reason to relinquish it to international jurisdiction.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:33:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STAN LEAPHART, Executive  Director, Citizens' Advisory Commission                                                               
on  Federal  Areas, testified  in  support  of  SJR 15  from  the                                                               
following written statement [original punctuation provided]:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     I  appreciate  the  opportunity  to  testify  today  in                                                                    
     support of SJR 15.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The Commission shares the concerns  expressed in SJR 15                                                                    
     regarding  the  designation   of  lands  under  various                                                                    
     internal  initiatives such  as  that  reflected in  the                                                                    
     proposed  memorandum   of  understanding   between  the                                                                    
     United   States   and   the   Russian   Federation   to                                                                    
     "symbolically link"  U.S. National Parks in  the Bering                                                                    
     Strait Region to form an international protected area.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The proposed  MOU states that it  is legally nonbinding                                                                    
     and  is not  an  international agreement  and does  not                                                                    
     create  any rights  or obligations  under international                                                                    
     law.  Based  on past experience, however,  the terms of                                                                    
     this MOU  could complicate the ability  of the National                                                                    
     Park  Service to  manage national  park  lands in  this                                                                    
     region.   It could also potentially  affect the ability                                                                    
     of the State  of Alaska and the private  land owners in                                                                    
     the region to develop and utilize their lands.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     While somewhat different in  scope, the recent decision                                                                    
     by the  Secretary of  the Interior  to not  approve the                                                                    
     construction of a road in  the Izembek NWR was based in                                                                    
     no small part on the  1986 designation of the refuge as                                                                    
     a Wetland of International  Importance under the Ramsar                                                                    
     Convention,   even  though   the   convention  is   non                                                                    
     regulatory and  has no  sanctions for  violating treaty                                                                    
     commitments.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     In the  1990s the  designation of Glacier  Bay National                                                                    
     Park  &  Preserve  as  both   a  United  Nations  World                                                                    
     Heritage Site and  a biosphere Reserve was  a factor in                                                                    
     the phased elimination of a  100 year old state-managed                                                                    
     commercial fishery in the park.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  Commission notes  that the  National Park  Service                                                                    
     Shared Beringian Heritage  Programs has funded numerous                                                                    
     projects over the  last 12 years in  the Bering Straits                                                                    
     region.     These   projects   have  collected   useful                                                                    
     archeological,  cultural, historical,  natural resource                                                                    
     and environmental data.  We  also note that many of the                                                                    
     projects are  undertaken not in the  Alaskan park units                                                                    
     for  which  the  National Park  Service  has  statutory                                                                    
     management   responsibility,   but   in   the   Russian                                                                    
     Federation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Both  the Cape  Krusenstern National  Monument and  the                                                                    
     Bering  Land Bridge  National Preserve  (which are  the                                                                    
     two   U.S.   National   Park  units   that   would   be                                                                    
     "symbolically linked"  under this MOU) were  created by                                                                    
     ANILCA to  protect archeological sites and  provide for                                                                    
     the study  of the historic migration  of peoples across                                                                    
     the Bering Straits, as well  as to preserve natural and                                                                    
     cultural  resources in  these  two areas.   We  believe                                                                    
     that  the  increasingly  scarce   funds  used  for  the                                                                    
     administratively  created   Shared  Beringian  Heritage                                                                    
     Program could  better be utilized to  meet the National                                                                    
     Park  Service's  statutory responsibilities  for  these                                                                    
     two park units.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:36:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEAPHART  pointed out  that  ostensibly  under the  MOU  the                                                               
management  decisions would  only  directly  affect the  National                                                               
Park Units.  He asked  to read  a short  excerpt from  a recently                                                               
released report, as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     A  recent  report  by  the  Science  Committee  of  the                                                                    
     National  Park  System   Advisory  Board  contains  the                                                                    
     following statement:   "Confronted with  continuous and                                                                    
     dynamic change  and the  goal of  preserving ecological                                                                    
     integrity, NPS  management strategies must  be expanded                                                                    
     to encompass a geographic  scope beyond park boundaries                                                                    
     to  larger  landscapes  and  to  consider  longer  time                                                                    
     horizons.  Specific   tactics  include   improving  the                                                                    
     representation  of unique  ecosystem  types within  the                                                                    
     National  Park System,  prioritizing the  protection of                                                                    
     habitats that  may serve  as climate  refugia, ensuring                                                                    
     the  maintenance of  critical  migration and  dispersal                                                                    
     corridors,  and strengthening  the  resilience of  park                                                                    
     ecosystems."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEAPHART  submitted that  this language  means the  NPS looks                                                               
outside  its management  responsibilities  to develop  management                                                               
strategies and  emphasizes the possible  threat from  creation of                                                               
this Beringian Heritage Area.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:38:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR inquired whether SJR  15 would have an impact                                                               
on  the  MOU,  which  is  what  is  moving  forward  and  if  the                                                               
resolution should specifically address the MOU.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEAPHART offered  his belief that the intent of  SJR 15 is in                                                               
opposition to the MOU and he  would hope the result would be that                                                               
the president would not sign it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:40:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEANTHA CROCKETT, Executive  Director, Alaska Miners Association,                                                               
Inc.  (AMA)  spoke  in favor  of  SJR  15.    She read  from  the                                                               
following written statement [original punctuation provided]:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Good afternoon. My  name is Deantha Crockett,  and I am                                                                    
     Executive  Director of  the Alaska  Miners Association.                                                                    
     AMA  began  in  1939   (so  2014  celebrates  our  75th                                                                    
     Anniversary!)  and  is  the  umbrella  association  for                                                                    
     Alaska's  mining industry.  Our members  include small,                                                                    
     family-run placer operations,  to large-scale hard rock                                                                    
     mines, to coal mines,  to exploration projects, and all                                                                    
     vendors and contractors that support Alaska's mines.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     AMA does  not support actions that  decrease or prevent                                                                    
     access to Alaska's lands. In  1980, the Alaska National                                                                    
     Interest  Lands  Conservation Act  (ANILCA)  designated                                                                    
     millions of acres within  Alaska as conservation system                                                                    
     units, and more importantly,  issued a promise that "No                                                                    
     More"  lands would  be precluded  from a  multiple-use,                                                                    
     fully    accessible    classification.   The    Federal                                                                    
     government today  should keep  that promise,  and block                                                                    
     no further  acreage from access, exploration,  and with                                                                    
     hope, development of all uses.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Separately, land designations should  only be made with                                                                    
     full  Congressional approval,  the Alaska  Legislature,                                                                    
     and  the  Governor,  as well  as  the  various  private                                                                    
     landowners in  this area. Governor Parnell,  as well as                                                                    
     Senator Murkowski and  Congressman Young have expressed                                                                    
     concerns that the federal  government has not consulted                                                                    
     the State of Alaska on  this land designation. While on                                                                    
     a technical note,  designations don't create regulatory                                                                    
     authority over lands, it is  a consideration taken into                                                                    
     account  by land  managers who  evaluate activities  on                                                                    
     those lands,  and it is certainly  noticed by potential                                                                    
     developers  who may  sense additional  risk  by such  a                                                                    
     land  designation when  evaluating  whether  or not  to                                                                    
     invest in Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     We believe  passage of SJR15  will send a  message that                                                                    
     the  State of  Alaska takes  the multiple-use  standard                                                                    
     seriously, and  that designations  of lands  within our                                                                    
     state  must  be done  in  consultation  with our  state                                                                    
     lawmakers.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you  for hearing this resolution  and I encourage                                                                    
     you to pass it as soon as possible.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:42:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARLEANNA HALL, Projects Coordinator, Resources Development                                                                     
Council (RDC), paraphrased, as follows [original punctuation                                                                    
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  Resource  Development  Council  for  Alaska,  Inc.                                                                    
     (RDC) is  writing in  support of  SJR 15,  a resolution                                                                    
     opposing any  international designation of  Alaska land                                                                    
     or  water  as  an international  park,  world  heritage                                                                    
     site,   biosphere  reserve,   Ramsar  site,   or  other                                                                    
     classification of  land or water  that affects  the use                                                                    
     of  land or  water by  the  state or  an Alaska  Native                                                                    
     Corporation without  approval by the U.S.  Congress and                                                                    
     the Alaska State Legislature.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     RDC  is an  Alaskan business  association comprised  of                                                                    
     individuals and  companies from  Alaska's oil  and gas,                                                                    
     mining,   forest  products,   tourism,  and   fisheries                                                                    
     industries.  Our membership includes  all of the Alaska                                                                    
     Native   regional   corporations,  local   communities,                                                                    
     organized  labor, and  industry support  firms.   RDC's                                                                    
     purpose is to expand  the state's economic base through                                                                    
     the responsible development of our natural resources.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     It is  a policy of  RDC to  advocate for access  to and                                                                    
     across  lands  in  Alaska for  resource  and  community                                                                    
     development.    RDC  is  concerned  that  the  proposed                                                                    
     Memorandum of  Understanding (MOU) for the  creation of                                                                    
     the Beringia International  Park (Beringia) will create                                                                    
     another  level  of  bureaucracy  inhibiting  access  to                                                                    
     areas in Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The area  under consideration  in this proposed  MOU is                                                                    
     vast  and surrounds  many rural  communities.   The MOU                                                                    
     lacks  consultation  and  coordination with  local  and                                                                    
     state government,  as well as ignores  possible impacts                                                                    
     to  resources,   such  as  oil  and   gas,  and  mining                                                                    
     exploration and development.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     It is  also a  policy of RDC  to advocate  for multiple                                                                    
     use  of lands,  and  resource development  in the  area                                                                    
     could  provide economic  benefits to  the region  where                                                                    
     well-paying  jobs are  scarce, as  well as  improved or                                                                    
     added infrastructure and access  to areas for multiple-                                                                    
     users.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     RDC maintains that multiple  uses should include mining                                                                    
     (exploration,  leasing, development)  for oil  and gas,                                                                    
     coal, and  minerals, as well as  recreational and other                                                                    
     potential uses.   With less than one  percent of Alaska                                                                    
     in  conventional private  ownership,  access should  be                                                                    
     available on other lands, and  should not be restricted                                                                    
     by  an unprecedented  one-size fits  all MOU  that will                                                                    
     likely add another layer of federal bureaucracy.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     SJR 15  is timely, given the  MOU has yet to  be signed                                                                    
     by the President.  Input  from those most knowledgeable                                                                    
     about  Alaska  and  Alaska's resources  should  not  be                                                                    
     ignored.    This  MOU could  seriously  jeopardize  the                                                                    
     ability  to access  resources that  fall in  and around                                                                    
     Beringia.     In  addition,  past   federal  government                                                                    
     promises assured  access to allow  resource development                                                                    
     in  this area  and  others not  set  aside through  the                                                                    
     Alaska   National  Interest   Lands  Conservation   Act                                                                    
     (ANILCA)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The passage  of ANILCA  in 1980  set aside  106 million                                                                    
     acres  of  federal  lands  in  Alaska  as  conservation                                                                    
     system units.   Today,  Alaska accounts for  70 percent                                                                    
     of all  national park  lands in  the United  States, as                                                                    
     well as  53 percent of federally  designated Wilderness                                                                    
     for all of the U.S.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     RDC  thanks   Senator  Giessel  for   introducing  this                                                                    
     resolution, and  urges the  Alaska Legislature  to pass                                                                    
     SJR 15 and to continue  to assert the State of Alaska's                                                                    
     rights, and  consult with the  State of Alaska  on this                                                                    
     and any  future designations  of the State's  lands and                                                                    
     resources.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P. WILSON, after  first determining no one else wished                                                               
to testify, closed public testimony on SJR 15.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:44:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI  recalled  that many  members  took  the                                                               
megaprojects seminar  several years  ago and it  was enlightening                                                               
to understand that part of  the problem with resource development                                                               
is  having  prospective  developers  know  the  confines  of  the                                                               
development.   Sometimes MOUs  have a  positive impact,  he said.                                                               
He  was unsure  about this  one in  particular, but  he does  not                                                               
object to moving the resolution at this point.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON pointed out  that the last further resolved                                                               
urges the attorney  general to reserve all  legal remedies, which                                                               
he said is an important part of SJR 15.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:45:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  moved to adopt Conceptual  Amendment 1, to                                                               
add  "Governor  Parnell and  Attorney  General  Geraghty" to  the                                                               
addressees of the resolution.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P. WILSON objected for discussion purposes.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:45:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER said  he wanted to ensure  that even though                                                               
the resolution  will pass the  governor's desk for  signature, it                                                               
doesn't  mean  it  will  be  assimilated by  the  governor.    He                                                               
respectfully  asked  for  the  sponsor's   consent  to  make  the                                                               
amendment to  add Governor Parnell and  Attorney General Geraghty                                                               
to the list of addressees.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P.  WILSON said she noted the sponsor  was nodding her                                                               
assent.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL agreed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR P.  WILSON removed  her  objection.   There being  no                                                               
further objection, Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:46:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OLSON moved  to report SJR 15,  Version N, labeled                                                               
28-LS1192/N, Bullock, 2/28/14, as  amended, out of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the accompanying  fiscal  note.                                                               
There being no  objection, the HCS SJR 15(RES)  was reported from                                                               
the House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:47 p.m. to 1:49 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                       
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
^Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                                             
               Big Game Commercial Services Board                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
1:49:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  P. WILSON announced  that the next order  of business                                                               
is  confirmation hearings  for the  Big Game  Commercial Services                                                               
Board (BGCSB),  the Board of  Fisheries, and Commissioner  of the                                                               
Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:50:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE  METZ, Appointee,  Big Game  Commercial Services  Board,                                                               
stated that she serves as  a manager for the Sealaska Corporation                                                               
based out  of Juneau.   This will  be her first  reappointment to                                                               
this board.   She  recalled that she  initially served  a partial                                                               
term.   She explained  that a substantial  amount of  learning is                                                               
necessary.    She  said  the  former Chair  of  the  BGCSB,  Paul                                                               
Johnson,  recommended  to the  governor  that  she serve  on  the                                                               
board.   She occupies the  seat as the large,  private landowner.                                                               
The Sealaska  Corporation has had  guides operating on  its land.                                                               
She  expressed  an  interest  in  serving  since  guiding  offers                                                               
employment  opportunities  in  rural  communities.    Many  rural                                                               
residents  are familiar  with the  outdoors, hunting,  and so  it                                                               
seems to be a natural fit for them to assist guides.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:52:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P. WILSON opened  public testimony.  After determining                                                               
no  one wished  to testify  she  closed public  testimony on  the                                                               
confirmation hearing for Ms. Metz.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:53:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER moved to forward  the name of Michelle Metz                                                               
as  nominee to  the Big  Game  Commercial Services  Board to  the                                                               
joint session of  the House and Senate for  consideration.  There                                                               
being  no objection,  Ms. Metz's  name was  forwarded to  a joint                                                               
session of the House and Senate for consideration.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:54:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P.  WILSON related that the  next confirmation hearing                                                               
would be for  Gene Peltola, Appointee to the  Big Game Commercial                                                               
Services Board.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:54:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENE  PELTOLA, Appointee,  Big  Game  Commercial Services  Board,                                                               
stated that like Ms. Metz, this  is a reappointment to the BGCSB.                                                               
He has  served the remaining  year of  a three-year term  and was                                                               
recommended to serve on the board  by the current Chair.  He just                                                               
retired after  spending 25 years  as the Chief  Executive Officer                                                               
and President of the Yukon  Kuskokwim Health Corporation.  He has                                                               
always had an  interest in natural resources, the  state has been                                                               
good to  him, and  in his  retirement, he  would like  to provide                                                               
services back to the State of Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P. WILSON opened  public testimony.  After determining                                                               
no  one wished  to testify  she  closed public  testimony on  the                                                               
confirmation hearing for Mr. Peltola.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:55:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER moved  to forward the name  of Gene Peltola                                                               
as a  nominee to the  Big Game  Commercial Services Board  to the                                                               
joint  session of  the House  and Senate  for consideration.   He                                                               
reminded members that signing  the reports regarding appointments                                                               
to boards and commissions in  no way reflects individual members'                                                               
approval  or   disapproval  of  the  appointees,   and  that  the                                                               
nominations  are merely  forwarded  to the  full legislature  for                                                               
confirmation or rejection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  P. WILSON concurred.   There being no  objection, Mr.                                                               
Peltola's name was forwarded to a  joint session of the House and                                                               
Senate for consideration.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Board of Fisheries                                                                                                             
                       Board of Fisheries                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
1:56:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  P. WILSON announced  that the next order  of business                                                               
would be  the confirmation hearing for  Frederick "Fritz" Johnson                                                               
as appointee to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:56:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FREDERICK "FRITZ" JOHNSON, Appointee,  Board of Fisheries, stated                                                               
that Bristol  Bay has been  his home  since 1979 when  he started                                                               
fishing commercially, and Bristol Bay  is fish country, like much                                                               
of Alaska.   He has crewed or captained various  boats in salmon,                                                               
herring,  and  halibut fisheries.    He  related that  his  first                                                               
winter  job  was working  for  the  1980  federal census  and  he                                                               
visited nearly every  community in the region, from  Pedro Bay to                                                               
the  Chignik, and  he  got to  know the  people  and the  region.                                                               
Additionally,  he   spent  a  dozen   years  managing   a  weekly                                                               
newspaper, from  1980 to  1992, and  through that  process became                                                               
familiar  with many  issues important  to residents  of Southwest                                                               
Alaska.  Between  fishing seasons he has also  worked for various                                                               
nonprofit organizations, but  five years ago he signed  on as the                                                               
regional  fisheries  coordinator  for the  Bristol  Bay  Economic                                                               
Development Corporation,  which is a local  community development                                                               
quota entity in  Southwest Alaska.  He characterized  this job as                                                               
"all  fish all  the time."   He  said he  is familiar  with board                                                               
processes and  procedures.  He further  said he is ready  to make                                                               
the time  and commitment for  the Board of Fisheries  mandate for                                                               
sustainability    of   Alaska's    fisheries   while    providing                                                               
opportunities to the various user groups in the state.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:58:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  offered his thanks and  admirations to Mr.                                                               
Johnson, noting he  has received many letters of  support for the                                                               
nominee.   He inquired whether  he can fairly represent  all user                                                               
groups  beyond commercial  fisheries,  for example,  if he  could                                                               
also represent the sport fisheries perspective.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNSON   replied  he  would   not  be  applying   for  this                                                               
appointment  if he  felt  he  could not  represent  all the  user                                                               
groups.    He  has  also  sport  fished  although  his  principal                                                               
background  is  in commercial  fishing,  but  he understands  the                                                               
Board of Fisheries must represent all user groups.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:00:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR inquired whether  any groups are opposing Mr.                                                               
Johnson's appointment to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNSON responded  he is  unaware of  any opposition  to his                                                               
appointment.   He  said he  has  participated in  seven Board  of                                                               
Fisheries' meetings thus  far since October so  he has discovered                                                               
it isn't always easy to make everyone happy.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:01:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P. WILSON opened  public testimony.  After determining                                                               
no  one wished  to testify  she  closed public  testimony on  the                                                               
confirmation hearing for Mr. Johnson.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  said that the absence  of public testimony                                                               
"screams" volumes about Mr. Johnson's  qualifications to serve on                                                               
this board.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER moved  to  forward the  name of  Frederick                                                               
"Fritz" Johnson  as a nominee  to the  Board of Fisheries  to the                                                               
joint  session of  the House  and Senate  for consideration.   He                                                               
reminded members that signing  the reports regarding appointments                                                               
to boards and  commissions in no way  reflect individual members'                                                               
approval  or   disapproval  of  the  appointees,   and  that  the                                                               
nominations  are merely  forwarded  to the  full legislature  for                                                               
confirmation  or  rejection.    There  being  no  objection,  Mr.                                                               
Johnson's name  was advanced  to the joint  session of  the House                                                               
and Senate for consideration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:02 p.m. to 2:04 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Commissioner, Department of Natural Resources                                                                                  
         Commissioner - Department of Natural Resources                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
2:04:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  P. WILSON announced  that the next order  of business                                                               
would be the confirmation hearing  for Joe Balash as appointee to                                                               
serve as commissioner of the Department of Natural Resources.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:05:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE   BALASH,  Commissioner   Designee,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources  (DNR), stated  that  Alaska has  been  his home  since                                                               
1986.   His family moved to  Alaska and his father  was stationed                                                               
at  Eielson Air  Force Base.   He  indicated Alaska  is where  he                                                               
wants  to make  his  home and  have  his own  family.   He  began                                                               
working in the  capitol 17 sessions ago and he  has seen a number                                                               
of  events come  and go.    He learned  that DNR  is the  premier                                                               
agency  in state  government in  terms of  what makes  this state                                                               
operate, what brings  in the money, and what allows  the state to                                                               
do  all that  is spectacular  in  Alaska.   It's an  honor and  a                                                               
privilege for  him to have the  opportunity to lead DNR  with the                                                               
responsibilities that come with the job.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:06:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH said  that Alaska has 100 million acres  of upland, 60                                                               
million  more  acres  in  tidelands, and  submerged  lands.    He                                                               
acknowledged it is a really big  job.  He pointed out that Alaska                                                               
has   world-class   resources   and   it   requires   world-class                                                               
management.  He did not envision  doing this job without the fine                                                               
employees  that staff  the agencies,  numbering  more than  1,100                                                               
employees.   He offered his  belief that these people  manage the                                                               
resources  on   a  day-to-day   basis,  while   the  commissioner                                                               
functions as  an asset  manager rather  than a  resource manager.                                                               
He further  thought that the  commissioner needs to look  at ways                                                               
to  leverage  the  resources  and  assets  in  Alaska  to  create                                                               
additional  value  and  opportunities.     He  acknowledged  many                                                               
employees  follow  the  regulations   and  procedures  and  issue                                                               
permits on a daily basis;  however, the commissioner must keep an                                                               
eye out for opportunities.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:07:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH explained  that Alaska has the largest  park system in                                                               
the country,  yet there is  a backlog of deferred  maintenance in                                                               
the  parks that  exceeds $50  million.   The  state's ability  to                                                               
overcome  that  backlog  is  limited   by  all  the  same  budget                                                               
challenges that the legislature must  wrestle with.  He suggested                                                               
an  untapped   opportunity  exists   in  Alaska's  parks.     The                                                               
legislature has  taken some steps  to get started on  an approach                                                               
that  really  could be  the  key,  which is  identifying  private                                                               
concessions  that can  be leveraged  to  create revenue  streams.                                                               
For example, in south Denali, the  state has started to develop a                                                               
new  alternative to  provide  visitor  opportunities and  partner                                                               
with the visitor  industry in the form of  a long-term concession                                                               
and agreement to  create a revenue stream that  could be "plowed"                                                               
back into parks.  He envisioned  that this wouldn't be limited to                                                               
the high-traveled  high-density parks, but ones  the families use                                                               
for picnics, barbeques, and weekend  campouts, such as in Chugach                                                               
State Park.   He said  similar opportunities also exist  in Wood-                                                               
Tikchik Park to make sure  that nothing is inconsistent with park                                                               
values  or  management  but  to have  a  controlled  planned  and                                                               
orderly method for  visitors to "see these treasures"  and at the                                                               
same time create a revenue stream  that can help sustain the park                                                               
system for all Alaskans.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:10:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH, regarding oil and gas,  noted that much time has been                                                               
spent  discussing how  to leverage  the existing  proven resource                                                               
base at Prudhoe Bay to  create additional opportunities for years                                                               
to  come  by  developing  additional  potential  resources.    He                                                               
pointed out  a place  in which the  state got it  wrong -  in the                                                               
developments at  Alpine and Badami, which  were developed without                                                               
roads.  The  state missed out on extending its  reach.  The state                                                               
is limited  in its exploration  by the  radius of ice  roads that                                                               
can extend beyond the existing  year-round infrastructure.  Thus,                                                               
the state still has  only the same radius as it  had in 1989, yet                                                               
the state  should be  able to  reach that  much further  east and                                                               
west.  He  said, "That's something that I think  is a shame. It's                                                               
something that's  probably cost  us opportunities  as a  state in                                                               
the last 20  years."  Those are  the types of things  he hoped to                                                               
avoid, he said.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:12:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH,  addressing public rumblings  he has heard  about his                                                               
[young]  age  and  experience,  said  he didn't  see  this  as  a                                                               
problem.  He  stated that the reality is he  is young enough that                                                               
he will  see the consequences  of the decisions  the Commissioner                                                               
makes, which he views as an incredible responsibility.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:12:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P.  WILSON, with respect to his comments  on ice roads                                                               
to Alpine and  Badami fields, asked what  expansion he envisioned                                                               
of additional roads and if he meant ice roads or other roads.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH answered  that those  fields  were developed  without                                                               
permanent roads.   Had they  been developed with  permanent roads                                                               
additional reach  with the  ice roads would  be further  out than                                                               
today.   In terms of development  at Point Thomson, the  field is                                                               
large enough to warrant development,  but the state misses out on                                                               
smaller opportunities.   He said  that the "home runs"  will take                                                               
care of  themselves.  The  state needs  to string together  a few                                                               
"base hits."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P. WILSON concurred.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:14:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  offered his appreciation for  Mr. Balash's                                                               
passion, intelligence, and deep commitment.   He remarked that he                                                               
has worked  with Mr. Balash  on challenging issues with  many ups                                                               
and  downs   and  questioned  the  appearance   of  Mr.  Balash's                                                               
relationship with TransCanada as being  extremely close.  He said                                                               
he took note  of TransCanada's lobbyist sitting  in the audience,                                                               
with the  vast majority of  the other  audience being staff.   He                                                               
concluded  that  makes  him  want   to  know  what  TransCanada's                                                               
interest is in Mr. Balash's  confirmation.  He asked if appointed                                                               
whether  Mr. Balash  can be  objective in  his decisions  and the                                                               
counsel  he  provides the  governor  in  terms of  dealings  with                                                               
TransCanada or any other [oil and gas] company.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH  responded that  the  counsel  he  has given  to  the                                                               
governor  along   the  way   will  likely   remain  confidential.                                                               
However, the question  raised is an important one.   He described                                                               
his  association with  TransCanada  as being  purely through  his                                                               
work at the  state and advised that he has  no personal financial                                                               
ties to  TransCanada.  He  acknowledged the  state's relationship                                                               
with  TransCanada through  the partnership  wasn't  perfect.   In                                                               
fact,   in  some   instances   the   state's  relationship   with                                                               
TransCanada has  been questioned  and reconsidered.   He surmised                                                               
that  will likely  happen again  in the  future depending  on the                                                               
legislature's  actions.    For  example,  the  MOU  will  require                                                               
further  agreement  and  further  consideration.    The  specific                                                               
"gates" are  big ones and the  state must proceed with  "our eyes                                                               
wide open."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:17:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH  acknowledged   that  TransCanada's  performance  has                                                               
impressed  him  to  date;   however,  he  believed  TransCanada's                                                               
ability to  help the state is  limited.  In fact,  if the current                                                               
oil and  gas discussion  was limited  to monetization  of Prudhoe                                                               
Bay  and Point  Thomson, without  any other  concerns, the  state                                                               
wouldn't need  TransCanada as a financial  partner. However, what                                                               
drives  his  interest in  seeing  TransCanada  included has  been                                                               
their ability to  bring additional gas producers to  the table to                                                               
move Alaska's resource  through the infrastructure.   He hoped he                                                               
has answered the question.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:19:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER stated  Mr.  Balash has  not answered  his                                                               
question.   He characterized Mr.  Balash's response as  a defense                                                               
of  his   relationship  with  TransCanada.     He  rephrased  his                                                               
question.   He asked if  Mr. Balash is confirmed  as commissioner                                                               
of  DNR, whether  he  could  be objective  in  his dealings  with                                                               
TransCanada or any other individual commercial parties.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  agreed Representative Hawker  is right.   In response                                                               
to whether he can be objective,  he offered his belief that one's                                                               
experiences with  a company  inform his/her  decisions.   He said                                                               
the  challenge  is  to  try  to be  objective.    He  asked  what                                                               
objective measures could  be used to evaluate  any given proposal                                                               
or opportunity dealing  with any company.  He said  the state has                                                               
an obligation  to look for  external benchmarks  when considering                                                               
proposals  whether  to the  governor  or  the legislature.    The                                                               
question becomes  how the state  knows it is delivering  value or                                                               
providing the right opportunities to  move the state forward.  He                                                               
went  on  to  say  he  personally   seeks  this  in  all  of  the                                                               
department's  transactions.     He  hoped  the   state  would  be                                                               
considering a royalty  sale contract for oil soon  and agreed the                                                               
state's deliberations  must be  objective.   Further, objectivity                                                               
must come  but not with blinders,  and it must take  into account                                                               
the  experiences the  state has  had with  the company  to ensure                                                               
that the right features, terms, and conditions are met.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:21:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH contrasted  that with the settlement  of Point Thomson                                                               
since litigation clouded the title of  the gas.  The state had to                                                               
identify benchmarks for  the initial development of  the field as                                                               
well as commitments for further  development.  Further, the state                                                               
needed  to take  into  account  the context  and  history of  its                                                               
relationship with the operator.   He concluded that this approach                                                               
will need to be taken with each particular case.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P.  WILSON said she has a  feeling that Representative                                                               
Hawker was seeking a "yes or no" response.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER  agreed that  Mr.  Balash  has provided  a                                                               
thorough answer.  He maintained that  he still has not received a                                                               
clear "yes or no" answer.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH answered, "I'm happy to  do that.  I can be objective.                                                               
I believe  that I  have been."   He explained  that the  point he                                                               
wanted to  make was that  part of the decision-making  process is                                                               
informed by our own experiences.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:23:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON inquired  whether at  end of  project life                                                               
the department  should consider transferring any  roads that were                                                               
built  to  the North  Slope  Borough  or other  municipal  entity                                                               
rather  than requiring  dismantlement,  removal, and  restoration                                                               
(DR&R) in the leases.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH  answered  the  department  will  consider  the  role                                                               
infrastructure has on  the local government most  impacted by oil                                                               
and gas  activities.  The  DR&R specifically imbedded  in leasees                                                               
requires  the  lessee  to  return the  property  to  a  condition                                                               
acceptable to  the commissioner at  the time of abandonment.   He                                                               
suggested opportunities may  exist to sever an  easement and road                                                               
from the rest  of the lease obligation.  Certainly  this could be                                                               
explored up  front, he said.   However, he pointed  out practical                                                               
limitations may  exist in  order to  preserve the  obligation and                                                               
not absolve lessees from their obligation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:26:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON agreed  that the  state shouldn't  absolve                                                               
the leases,  but he  asked whether the  department will  hold any                                                               
discussions with  the "surface owners"  to determine  interest in                                                               
preserving the assets derived from  production or if it is within                                                               
the  commissioner's authority  to make  decisions and  not impose                                                               
the  DR&R even  though  it is  part  of the  lease.   He  further                                                               
wondered if the lease should  contain a provision to specifically                                                               
allow the commissioner to negotiate  terms for surface facilities                                                               
acceptable to the municipality and the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH pointed  out  that  in most  instances  on the  North                                                               
Slope, the  surface and subsurface owner  is the state.   Most of                                                               
the  discussions  he  has  held with  the  North  Slope  surround                                                               
whether to garner  additional acres to fulfill  the North Slope's                                                               
municipal entitlement.   In fact, this has been  and continues to                                                               
be a  struggle, he said.   In  terms of split  estate situations,                                                               
which  occur most  often on  the Kenai  Peninsula, it  would vary                                                               
depending  on the  surface  owner.   Certainly  from a  municipal                                                               
standpoint, the  opportunity to sort  out how to pursue  the DR&R                                                               
is  something  he  hopes  future  commissioners  will  take  into                                                               
account.   His goal  as commissioner would  be to  keep long-term                                                               
goals in  mind in abandonment  instances.  He concluded,  in many                                                               
cases, it would be beneficial to  preserve pads and roads so long                                                               
as they are clean.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:29:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI shared  a camp  anecdote from  1992 that                                                               
illustrated he  has known  Mr. Balash  since they  were children.                                                               
He then  said that in 2006  and 2007, part of  the Alaska Gasline                                                               
Inducement Act (AGIA) dealt with  basin control and who owned the                                                               
basin.  During AGIA and referring  to the issue of access and the                                                               
issue  of basin  control,  Mr. Balash's  predecessor, Tom  Irwin,                                                               
said, "If I  were producer I might have the  same trouble too, if                                                               
I  wanted to  control  Alaska's  gas basin."    He  asked him  to                                                               
highlight his position and indicate whether it has changed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  answered that  he continues  to have  concerns around                                                               
basin control and seeks to  find solutions, although he noted the                                                               
challenges  are more  difficult for  oil than  for gas,  in part,                                                               
because the  state is  starting fresh  on gas  issues.   In fact,                                                               
some terms in  the Heads of Agreement were included  due to prior                                                               
battles.   However, he offered  his belief  that the oil  and gas                                                               
companies want to avoid conflicts  and desire solutions, too.  He                                                               
viewed one challenge will be  how to structure new development in                                                               
a truly efficient way.   He characterized the amount of resources                                                               
in  current   fields  and  in   the  ground   as  "mindboggling."                                                               
Typically   in  Cook   Inlet,  big   legacy   assets  have   been                                                               
consolidated  by  Hilcorp [Energy  Company].    Hilcorp has  paid                                                               
attention  to the  "little  bits" and  has  been "stringing  them                                                               
together"  to create  an impressive  "turnaround"  in Cook  Inlet                                                               
production.  However,  he was unsure this  transition could occur                                                               
on  the  North Slope  since  the  infrastructure  is so  big  and                                                               
expensive.  The  challenge on the North Slope will  be to attract                                                               
smaller operators to  achieve what the bigger  companies can't do                                                               
because they can't attract the  investment within the corporation                                                               
to accomplish or are not interested  for other reasons.  He hoped                                                               
the  state will  be able  to maintain  a respectful  and positive                                                               
dialogue with  the incumbents since  a good relationship  will be                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:35:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI  asked  how  Mr.  Balash  would  improve                                                               
relationships with the smaller independents  in order to get more                                                               
oil in the pipeline.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  suggested the natural tendency  is to over-generalize                                                               
by calling  any company  an independent  that is  not one  of the                                                               
"big three"  oil and gas  producers: ConocoPhillips  Alaska, Inc.                                                               
(Conoco),  BP  Exploration  (Alaska) Inc.  (BP),  and  ExxonMobil                                                               
Alaska Production,  Inc.  Often  times problems arise when  it is                                                               
perceived  all   companies  will  receive  the   same  treatment.                                                               
However, in his  experience, some companies have  great ideas but                                                               
do not have financial ability to  live up to their commitments in                                                               
terms of  unit agreements and  development plans.   He contrasted                                                               
this with his  observations from Repsol, which  has fulfilled its                                                               
drilling obligations  in units.   He emphasized the DNR  has been                                                               
working  to  rectify this  situation  with  "non-incumbents" -  a                                                               
label he  prefers over "independents."   He acknowledged  the DNR                                                               
must  work harder  to  assess  whether a  company  is capable  of                                                               
fulfilling its commitments.   In response to a  question, he said                                                               
Tom Kelly  helped identify  the state's  selections on  the North                                                               
Slope.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:38:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAWASAKI  identified former Commissioner  Kelly as                                                               
a DNR commissioner  under former Governor Walter  Hickel, who was                                                               
selected since he  was an "oil man" the governor  felt could work                                                               
with  the industry.   He  provided  some details  on Mr.  Kelly's                                                               
background to highlight the juncture  he believes the state is at                                                               
in  terms of  natural gas  development.   He  recalled Mr.  Kelly                                                               
indicated  that  when  dealing  with  the  public  resource,  the                                                               
highest  price is  the  fairest  price since  the  state has  the                                                               
fiduciary  responsibility to  maximize the  state's value  of its                                                               
resources.   He  asked Mr.  Balash what  that statement  means to                                                               
him.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH responded  that  "the highest  price  is the  fairest                                                               
price"  is  a  pretty  good  rule to  use.    He  identified  one                                                               
challenge  is  to  maximize  the state's  share  by  getting  the                                                               
highest  price for  the state's  royalty.   He acknowledged  some                                                               
Fairbanksans want  reductions in the state's  royalty share since                                                               
they believe  it will  result in reduced  costs for  heating oil,                                                               
gasoline,  or  that  it  will keep  the  [Flint  Hills]  refinery                                                               
operating.   However, he agreed  he must look beyond  this narrow                                                               
constituency  to fulfill  his obligations  as  commissioner.   He                                                               
agreed the  challenge will be  to get  the highest price  for the                                                               
resource the state owns and manages.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH highlighted the distinction  between the derivation of                                                               
the share of  the state's ownership - the royalty  interest - and                                                               
the state's share  of the production tax.  He  cautioned that the                                                               
state  must be  very careful  when it  assesses production  taxes                                                               
since  ultimately  production  taxes   will  affect  the  state's                                                               
royalty interest.   Although the  legislature has  struggled with                                                               
this  question in  the past  several years  the state  has worked                                                               
itself to "a pretty good spot all in all," he said.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:42:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  for Mr.  Balash's  perspective  on                                                               
public  involvement and  the  public process  in  terms of  state                                                               
assets ranging  from agriculture  leases to  oil and  gas leases.                                                               
He  noted the  state  has experienced  reductions  in the  public                                                               
process, whether it was coastal zone management or under HB 77.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH viewed  the  challenge in  managing  public lands  as                                                               
striking the  "sweet spot" between routine  and unique processes.                                                               
For example,  he viewed a  difference between the  public process                                                               
in long-term land  disposal and short term  situations that don't                                                               
have a  lasting effect  on the  resource.   Granted, transparency                                                               
when granting  permits and authorizations  is important,  but the                                                               
state  must also  focus  on  today's tools  and  not on  outdated                                                               
processes and systems.   In fact, how the  public can participate                                                               
changed  dramatically over  time  and yet  people still  complain                                                               
that  they didn't  know  a permit  was being  granted  or that  a                                                               
project was happening in their  neighborhood.  He favored a "more                                                               
is  better" approach  in terms  of public  involvement with  land                                                               
disposal,  but  he believes  the  department  can trust  resource                                                               
managers to  identify and apply  the rules  in a specific  way on                                                               
routine matters.   He remarked that some provisions in  HB 77 may                                                               
actually require more public notice  than the state presently has                                                               
for some key and routine authorizations.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:46:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON   asked    what   Commissioner   Balash's                                                               
philosophy is  on temporary water use  permits being sequentially                                                               
offered.   He  wondered what  the balance  would be  in terms  of                                                               
issuing a water  rights permit for the life of  a long project as                                                               
compared  to using  temporary water  permits  to accomplish  this                                                               
without public process.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH  acknowledged  this  issue  has  received  a  lot  of                                                               
interest but  ultimately it might  not be up to  the commissioner                                                               
to decide.  Additionally, other  permits and review processes are                                                               
necessary for  most projects,  not just a  water permit  in order                                                               
for a project to move forward.   Thus, he would advocate for more                                                               
involvement in terms of public  noticing and comment in instances                                                               
in which other  permits and review processes  weren't being used.                                                               
Although  providing the  public access  to  a list  of water  use                                                               
permits in  an area  could happen, it  shouldn't be  necessary to                                                               
formally  notice each  water use  permit in  the newspaper  or at                                                               
U.S. Post offices.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:50:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON recalled  that  under  the AGIA  process,                                                               
ExxonMobil  Corporation (Exxon)  joined with  TransCanada.   Now,                                                               
Exxon and  TransCanada operate,  but Exxon,  BP, and  Conoco also                                                               
operate  in  the  state.    He   asked  him  to  comment  on  the                                                               
contractual  relationships.   He further  asked whether  he could                                                               
just declare  AGIA non-economic  and the  state could  pursue the                                                               
best partners.   He further  asked whether Exxon  and TransCanada                                                               
make the best partners for the state.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  responded that the  steps taken  by Exxon in  2009 to                                                               
align  with  TransCanada in  the  AGIA  framework were  critical.                                                               
While  ExxonMobil aligned  closely with  TransCanada, it  did not                                                               
take on  all the  AGIA obligations  or fully  become part  of the                                                               
license.  Instead,  Exxon aligned closely with the  licensee in a                                                               
commercial relationship.  That  alignment provided an opportunity                                                               
and dialogue.   The companies were prepared  to acknowledged that                                                               
the state  had certain  key interests that  were critical  to the                                                               
state's   long-term  goals   surrounding  resource   develop  and                                                               
commercialization of Alaska North Slope  (ANS) gas in particular.                                                               
He couldn't  imagine arriving  at this  juncture or  reaching the                                                               
Point  Thomson settlement  without  that  alignment having  taken                                                               
place.  He pointed out the history  in 2007 and 2008, but in 2009                                                               
the dialogue occurred in how  to advance the state's interests at                                                               
the  same time  recognizing the  interests and  key factors  that                                                               
would affect decision-making  on the part of one  of the lessees,                                                               
in this case,  the one that holds the largest  interest in gas on                                                               
the North Slope.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:54:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH, in  terms of  the current  relationship between  the                                                               
licensee  and Exxon,  stated that  last year  during the  concept                                                               
selection  agreements   that  exist  between  all   parties,  the                                                               
relationship  broadened  out  to  include  BP  and  Conoco.    He                                                               
characterized the  AGIA license as  a vehicle of  convenience for                                                               
everyone, one  that has  helped keep everyone  moving along  in a                                                               
path that  works for everyone.   At the same time,  the state has                                                               
been  able to  create a  path forward  that allows  the state  an                                                               
opportunity  to step  out  of the  license and  move  into a  new                                                               
framework  that  fully  recognizes  everyone's  interests  moving                                                               
forward.   He  asked for  further clarification  on the  contract                                                               
reference between Exxon and TransCanada.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:55:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  clarified  it would  be  the  commercial                                                               
agreement  where  Exxon  aligns  itself  with  TransCanada.    He                                                               
recalled TransCanada  said that no  one is happy unless  Exxon is                                                               
happy.   He asked whether  Exxon is  "double dipping" due  to its                                                               
agreement with TransCanada.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH answered  he is  unaware  of any  side deals  between                                                               
Exxon and  TransCanada with respect  to the equity  interest that                                                               
is  represented  by  the  state's  gas  share  in  the  Heads  of                                                               
Agreement (HOA).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON requested  further  clarification on  the                                                               
commercial agreement Exxon has under AGIA.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH agreed.  In further  response to a question, he agreed                                                               
this is still the "law of the land."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:56:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON suggested  that  somewhere  the state  is                                                               
partnered with Exxon  and TransCanada in the  state's 25 percent.                                                               
He was unsure of the  percentages that Exxon and TransCanada have                                                               
discussed.  He  acknowledged the commissioner would  not be aware                                                               
of  the  commercial  agreement  between  TransCanada  and  Exxon.                                                               
Again, he asked whether the  state is partnering with TransCanada                                                               
and Exxon and thereby giving up negotiation rights to them.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH answered  that the  partnership with  Exxon, BP,  and                                                               
Conoco to get to Alaska's 25 percent  is embodied in the HOA.  As                                                               
far as  any parties  the state  partners with  further on  the 25                                                               
percent is  a function of  the agreement with TransCanada  in the                                                               
body of the MOU.   He said he is unaware  of any further dilution                                                               
or interest that  Exxon might have in or  through TransCanada for                                                               
the midstream interests in the project.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:58:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  P. WILSON inquired  whether it is possible  given the                                                               
confidentiality of TransCanada and Exxon's agreements.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  answered that  the agreement  that aligned  those two                                                               
parties in  2009 -  the Interim  Project Agreement  - is  one the                                                               
state did  have access to  review.  Further, the  Project Funding                                                               
Agreement was associated with it  and that agreement specifically                                                               
was in  place to  identify how  the parties  would pay  for their                                                               
respective shares of  work under the license in  order to fulfill                                                               
the license, even though the  work was legally being conducted by                                                               
an entity that  was not the licensee.   However, TransCanada does                                                               
have an obligation to inform  the state of any further agreements                                                               
between the  parties and the state  has not been informed  of any                                                               
other agreement.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  explained that over  time, as the  concept agreements                                                               
were struck, and  subsequently BP and Conoco  were involved there                                                               
were  some refinements  made to  the  way reimbursements  flowed;                                                               
however, that is something the state has monitored.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P. WILSON inquired  whether DNR has actually asked the                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH offered to call this evening.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:00:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OLSON asked whether  two TransCanada's are in play                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH answered  yes;  that  is correct  in  terms of  which                                                               
corporate entity is playing specific roles.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OLSON  inquired  whether  his  previous  comments                                                               
would apply to both TransCanada companies.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALASH  asked for further  clarification on whether  he meant                                                               
the  relationship between  TransCanada and  Exxon.   He clarified                                                               
that in  previous comments he  was referring to TC  Alaska, which                                                               
is the Alaska U.S. entity that is the licensee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:01:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR P. WILSON opened  public testimony.  After determining                                                               
no  one wished  to testify  she  closed public  testimony on  the                                                               
confirmation hearing.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:01:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  said he  appreciates the  latitude members                                                               
were given to  ask questions.  He remarked he  could not help but                                                               
be  concerned by  the  comment  that called  the  AGIA license  a                                                               
vehicle  of  convenience.   He  might  suggest  "an  inconvenient                                                               
vehicle of questionable necessity."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER moved to forward  the name of Joe Balash as                                                               
commissioner designee for the Department  of Natural Resources to                                                               
the joint session of the House  and Senate for consideration.  He                                                               
reminded members that signing  the reports regarding appointments                                                               
to boards and  commissions in no way  reflect individual members'                                                               
approval  or   disapproval  of  the  appointees,   and  that  the                                                               
nominations  are merely  forwarded  to the  full legislature  for                                                               
confirmation or rejection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:02:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR asked  whether Commissioner  Designee Balash                                                               
could be before the committee at the next hearing.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER pointed out a motion is on the table.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:03:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:03 p.m. to 3:05 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:05:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being no  objection, Mr. Balash's name was  advanced to the                                                               
joint session of the House and Senate for consideration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER remarked  that he  believes Mr.  Balash is                                                               
willing to speak to Representative Tarr at any time.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:06:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Resources Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:06 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR15 Fiscal Note.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Map.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Sponsor Statement HRES.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Support Letters.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 AK Heritage Site List.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 AK Land Ownership Map.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Biosphere List.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Governor Letter to US Secs of State.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 MOU US and Russia.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Murkowski - Young letter to Secs of State.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Murkowski Young response.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Promise of ANILCA.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Sen. Majority letter to Kerry & Jewell.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Version U.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Don Young Letter.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 NPS Letter.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Version N.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
SJR15 Changes Vsn U to N.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
SJR 15
Balash Bio & Photo.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
Balash Resume.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
Big Game - Metz #3.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
Big Game - Peltola #3.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
Fisheries - Johnson #3.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
KPFA Letter - Johnson.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
HB 287 Briefing Paper and Sectional.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
HB 287
HB 287 DNR Fiscal Note.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
HB 287
HB 287 DNR Presentation.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
HB 287
HB 287 Tesoro Letter.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
HB 287
HB 287 Transmittal Letter.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
HB 287
HB 287 Version A.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
HB 287
HB 287 Speaker Chenault Letter.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
HB 287
Johnson BOF Confirmation - ATA Letter.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
Johnson BOF Confirmation - SEAFA Letter.doc.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM
Johnson BOF Confirmation - UFA Letter.pdf HRES 3/3/2014 1:00:00 PM