Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/05/2004 01:15 PM RES

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                          May 5, 2004                                                                                           
                           1:15 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom, Co-Chair                                                                                        
Representative Beverly Masek, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Cheryll Heinze, Vice Chair                                                                                       
Representative Carl Gatto                                                                                                       
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Kelly Wolf                                                                                                       
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nick Stepovich                                                                                                   
Representative Beth Kerttula                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 190(STA)                                                                                                 
"An Act  adding certain state-owned  land and water to  the Kenai                                                               
River Special Management Area; relating  to the mineral estate of                                                               
the  state-owned  land  and  water in  the  Kenai  River  Special                                                               
Management Area;  relating to the Kenai  River Special Management                                                               
Area advisory board; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HCS CSSB 190(CRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Board of Game                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Ben Grussendorf - Sitka                                                                                                    
     Michael Fleagle - McGrath                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 190                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: KENAI RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA                                                                                
SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S) WAGONER                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
04/16/03       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/16/03       (S)       STA, RES                                                                                               
01/20/04       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
01/20/04       (S)       Moved CSSB 190(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
01/20/04       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
01/21/04       (S)       STA RPT CS 3DP 1NR   NEW TITLE                                                                         
01/21/04       (S)       DP: STEVENS G, COWDERY, STEDMAN;                                                                       
01/21/04       (S)       NR: GUESS                                                                                              
02/16/04       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/16/04       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/16/04       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
02/27/04       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/27/04       (S)       Moved CSSB 190(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/27/04       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
03/01/04       (S)       RES RPT CS(STA)  3DP 1NR                                                                               
03/01/04       (S)       DP: OGAN, STEVENS B, SEEKINS; NR: ELTON                                                                
03/05/04       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
03/05/04       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 190(STA)                                                                                 
03/08/04       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/08/04       (H)       CRA, RES                                                                                               
03/23/04       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 124                                                                             
03/23/04       (H)       Heard & Held <Assigned to Subcmte>                                                                     
03/23/04       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
04/29/04       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 124                                                                             
04/29/04       (H)       Subcommittee Meeting                                                                                   
03/29/04       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
05/03/04       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 124                                                                             
05/03/04       (H)       Moved   HCS   CSSB   190(CRA)   Out   of                                                               
                         Committee                                                                                              
05/03/04       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
05/03/04       (H)       CRA RPT HCS(CRA) 4DP 2NR                                                                               
05/03/04       (H)       DP: ANDERSON, WOLF, KOOKESH, MORGAN;                                                                   
05/03/04       (H)       NR: SAMUELS, CISSNA                                                                                    
05/05/04       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 124                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
AMY SEITZ, Staff                                                                                                                
to Senator Tom Wagoner                                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  During discussion of SB 190, provided                                                                      
comments and responded to questions on behalf of the sponsor,                                                                   
Senator Wagoner.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL FLEAGLE, Appointee                                                                                                      
Board of Game                                                                                                                   
McGrath, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  as appointee  to  the Board  of                                                               
Game.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BEN GRUSSENDORF, Appointee                                                                                                      
Board of Game                                                                                                                   
Sitka, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  as appointee  to  the Board  of                                                               
Game.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 04-26, SIDE A                                                                                                            
Number 0001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  NANCY DAHLSTROM  called  the  House Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   1:15  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Dahlstrom, Masek, Gatto, Lynn, and  Wolf were present at the call                                                               
to order.   Representative Heinze  and Guttenberg arrived  as the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 190 - KENAI RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0066                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DAHLSTROM announced  that the  first order  of business                                                               
would be CS FOR SENATE BILL  NO. 190(STA), "An Act adding certain                                                               
state-owned land and water to  the Kenai River Special Management                                                               
Area; relating to the mineral  estate of the state-owned land and                                                               
water in  the Kenai  River Special  Management Area;  relating to                                                               
the  Kenai  River Special  Management  Area  advisory board;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."   [Before the committee was HCS                                                               
CSSB 190(CRA).]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0093                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AMY   SEITZ,  Staff   to  Senator   Tom  Wagoner,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  sponsor, noted  on behalf  of Senator  Wagoner that                                                               
the current  version of SB 190  adds, to the Kenai  River Special                                                               
Management  Area  (KRSMA),  536  acres of  land  that  the  state                                                               
acquired via the Exxon Valdez oil spill (EVOS) settlement fund.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0164                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MASEK moved  to adopt  HCS  CSSB 190(CRA)  as the  work                                                               
draft.  There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SEITZ went on to say:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     So  the 536  acres -  and  then there's  just under  30                                                                    
     acres of lands that were  inadvertently left out of the                                                                    
     original 1984 bill  - those are all  wetlands that have                                                                    
     been labeled as critical habitat  area. ... It's been a                                                                    
     long  process getting  to these  particular properties.                                                                    
     [Starting] back  in 1995,  Governor Knowles  wanted the                                                                    
     Kenai  comprehensive management  plan  updated, and  so                                                                    
     the  Kenai   River  Special  Management   Area  (KRSMA)                                                                    
     advisory  board  started  having  meetings  in  [1997].                                                                    
     They came  up with the  new plan, which  requested just                                                                    
     under 8,000  acres of land  be added.  The  majority of                                                                    
     those lands  were up  in the upper  Kenai River  area -                                                                    
     Cooper Landing area, around there.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Through  the process,  most of  those lands  were taken                                                                    
     out   -  3,500   acres  were   taken  out   -  due   to                                                                    
     complications  they   would  cause  with   the  Chugach                                                                    
     electric  powerhouse  in  Cooper Landing.    The  other                                                                    
     lands were  taken out because  there ... [was]  a bible                                                                    
     camp on one that would  be kicked off, and other issues                                                                    
     like that.  So the  Senator, when he introduced SB 190,                                                                    
     decided [that]  these are the  acres that are  the most                                                                    
     critical -  and the [Alaska  Department of Fish  & Game                                                                    
     (ADF&G)] has mentioned that.   These are the lands that                                                                    
     have the least problems;  ... they're already under the                                                                    
     [Division of  Parks &  Outdoor Recreation]  through the                                                                    
     [EVOS].   So that's  why we  reduced it  so drastically                                                                    
     from what they had requested.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. SEITZ offered  that Section 3, on page  5, clarifies language                                                               
currently in  statute, and that  Section 4, which was  altered in                                                               
the House Community and Regional  Affairs Standing Committee, now                                                               
no longer makes any changes to the advisory board.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0446                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF surmised that because the land was purchased                                                                
with EVOS funds, the state already owns it.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SEITZ turned attention to [Amendment 1], which read                                                                         
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 9,                                                                                                            
          following " municipalities", insert "adjacent to                                                                      
     the Kenai River"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 10,                                                                                                           
          Following "groups.", delete "An"                                                                                      
          insert "Unless appointed as a representative of a                                                                     
     user  group, resident  property owners,  a municipality                                                                    
     adjacent to  the Kenai river, or  other interest group,                                                                    
     an"                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 12,                                                                                                           
          Following "board", insert "only as an ex officio                                                                      
     member serving without a vote.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 12,                                                                                                           
          Following "of the", insert "voting"                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0603                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HEINTZ made a motion to adopt Amendment 1.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0605                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOLF objected,  and  suggested  that Amendment  1                                                               
would  cause too  many members  of  the KRSMA  advisory board  to                                                               
become  ex officio  members, and  would remove  municipal, state,                                                               
and  federal   resource-agency  representation  from   the  KRSMA                                                               
advisory board, which he characterized  as currently being a good                                                               
working  group with  a professional  makeup.   He mentioned  that                                                               
with  regard  to  the  original  version of  SB  190,  the  KRSMA                                                               
advisory board supported the addition  of the land but refused to                                                               
comment on Section  4, which said in part,  "An employee, elected                                                           
official,  or   other  representative  of  a   federal  or  state                                                           
government may not be appointed to the advisory board.".                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOLF  relayed  that   agency  members  and  KRSMA                                                               
advisory  board   members  have  approached  him   with  concerns                                                               
regarding making those  listed in Section 4 of  the original bill                                                               
ex   officio  members   and  thus   removing  their   ability  to                                                               
participate fully as voting members.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SEITZ explained:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     [Amendment 1] would make  the agency representatives ex                                                                    
     officio,  all  except  for the  municipality  agencies.                                                                    
     They will  hold a  voting seat:   Soldotna,  Kenai, and                                                                    
     the Kenai Peninsula Borough,  which would represent the                                                                    
     Cooper  Landing area  - Homer,  Seward,  all the  other                                                                    
     "peninsula"  cities.     The  [ADF&G],   Department  of                                                                    
     Natural Resources  [DNR], [Department  of Environmental                                                                    
     Conservation (DEC)] - those ones  would be ex officio -                                                                    
     and the Senator  wanted ... them ... to have  a seat on                                                                    
     the board to  discuss the topics because  he knows that                                                                    
     they are knowledgeable, ... [that]  they are a valuable                                                                    
     part of the ... board.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     But ...  the advisory  board is  advisory -  it advises                                                                    
     the ...  [DNR], so the state  will still have a  say in                                                                    
     what happens  with how the  lands are managed -  and it                                                                    
     was set  up as a  citizens' advisory board.   By having                                                                    
     the agencies  [have] such a  big part [with  regard to]                                                                    
     voting,  the Senator  didn't feel  like it  was a  true                                                                    
     citizens'  board, so  he  - along  with  the [ADF&G]  -                                                                    
     thought it would  be best to have  those agency members                                                                    
     as ex  officio.  There  was another concern  brought up                                                                    
     to the Senator,  that the wording would make  it so the                                                                    
     commissioner  of DNR  [would  be] unable  to appoint  a                                                                    
     public member who happens to work for the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     So by  opening that up,  the commissioner did  have the                                                                    
     ability  to  interpret  the  language,  but  that  also                                                                    
     opened it  up to the  ability for someone  to challenge                                                                    
     it in court.  So the  language in ... [Amendment 1] ...                                                                    
     reads, "Unless appointed as a  representative of a user                                                                    
     group,   resident  property   owners,  a   municipality                                                                    
     adjacent  to   the  Kenai  river,  or   other  interest                                                                    
     [group]", and  then it goes  on to say that  the agency                                                                    
     members would  be ex officio.   So that clarifies  it -                                                                    
     and  this  language was  given  to  us by  [Legislative                                                                    
     Legal  and Research  Services] -  clarifies it  so it's                                                                    
     not opened  up to being  challenged by court.   And the                                                                    
     [DNR] ... requested us to make that clarification.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1048                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DAHLSTROM sought  confirmation that  representatives of                                                               
the  municipal  agencies  of  Soldotna,   Kenai,  and  the  Kenai                                                               
Peninsula Borough would still have voting rights.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SEITZ confirmed that point.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   WOLF  concurred   but  expressed   concern  that                                                               
adoption  of  Amendment  1 will  result  in  eliminating  various                                                               
agencies'  voices  and  their  incentive   to  participate.    He                                                               
mentioned a few  issues that have come before  the KRSMA advisory                                                               
board.  In response to a  question, he concurred with Ms. Seitz's                                                               
comment that the  KRSMA advisory board was set up  as a citizens'                                                               
advisory  board,  but mentioned  that  there  is only  one  ADF&G                                                               
representative  currently  sitting on  the  board  who is  not  a                                                               
resident of the Kenai Peninsula.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SEITZ pointed  out that  at the  most recent  KRSMA advisory                                                               
board meeting,  members voted  10-3 in favor  of the  language in                                                               
Section 4  of CSSB  190(STA), which read  in part,  "An employee,                                                           
elected official, or  other representative of a  federal or state                                                           
government  may be  appointed  to  the advisory  board  as an  ex                                                           
officio member serving without a vote.".                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  asked  whether  Amendment  1  would  allow                                                               
someone  from Palmer  to serve  as a  voting member,  and whether                                                               
someone who is  not "adjacent" to the river would  not be able to                                                               
serve as a voting member.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SEITZ  reiterated  that  the language  in  Amendment  1  was                                                               
crafted  by   Legislative  Legal   and  Research   Services,  and                                                               
explained that it is intended  to describe those communities that                                                               
the Kenai River runs through and directly affects.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  expressed concern with  limiting membership                                                               
to only those that live adjacent to the Kenai River.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SEITZ  offered  her  belief  that  the  bill  only  requires                                                               
municipality representatives  to be from  municipalities adjacent                                                               
to the Kenai River.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1587                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives Heinze  and Gatto                                                               
voted  in favor  of  Amendment 1.    Representatives Wolf,  Lynn,                                                               
Dahlstrom, and  Masek voted against  it.  Therefore,  Amendment 1                                                               
failed by a vote of 2-4.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1616                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MASEK  moved  to  report   HCS  CSSB  190(CRA)  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.   There being  no objection, HCS CSSB  190(CRA) was                                                               
reported from the House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DAHLSTROM turned the gavel over to Co-Chair Masek.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^Board of Game                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1654                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK announced that the committee would next consider                                                                 
the appointment of Michael Fleagle to the Board of Game.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1702                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  FLEAGLE,  Appointee, Board  of  Game,  said that  he  is                                                               
currently serving  on the Board  of Game, having  originally been                                                               
appointed  by  Governor  Knowles  and then  reappointed  by  both                                                               
Governor Knowles and Governor Murkowski.  He went on to say:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     I find  that I enjoy ...  working on the Board  of Game                                                                    
     and [on]  the policies  that we set  in place  for game                                                                    
     management in  the state.   I have  some goals,  that I                                                                    
     have of my own, for ...  wanting to be on the board and                                                                    
     that I've tried to bring  about while on the board, and                                                                    
     one  is to  restore abundance  to game  populations, as                                                                    
     we're dictated  in statute  and also  ... to  manage on                                                                    
     the  sustained-yield principle  of  the Alaska  [State]                                                                    
     Constitution. ...  To that end  ... I've been  a strong                                                                    
     advocate for predator management.   I feel that ... the                                                                    
     state is finally back on  track as far as managing game                                                                    
     the  way  that we're  supposed  to,  with a  couple  of                                                                    
     active  control  projects  going,  ...  and  I  take  a                                                                    
     certain  amount of  pride in  being  involved with  the                                                                    
     board then,  ... to  bring that  back into  the Alaskan                                                                    
     forefront. ...                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     I also  want to talk  about ... trying to  resolve some                                                                    
     of the  issues that  we're seeing  cropping up  in game                                                                    
     management,  and  that's  ... what's  perceived  to  be                                                                    
     overcrowding  by nonresidents,  guides, and  outfitters                                                                    
     into  remote areas  of  Alaska,  and I  see  that as  a                                                                    
     direct result  of the  diminishing game  populations in                                                                    
     other areas.   And  I think  ultimately we  can address                                                                    
     that competition through ...  trying to restore some of                                                                    
     the populations  in places  that [have]  been depleted.                                                                    
     And  that's  another  goal  of  mine,  ...  to  try  to                                                                    
     minimize the  user conflicts  and ...  maintain overall                                                                    
     healthy game populations and  just keep everybody happy                                                                    
     that wants to hunt.  Thank you.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK raised the issue of Tier II permits and their                                                                    
problems, and asked Mr. Fleagle to comment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. FLEAGLE said:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     I have  long advocated, for  my area here in  the upper                                                                    
     Kuskokwim,  that although  we  probably legally  should                                                                    
     have  been  in  the   Tier  II  situation,  we've  done                                                                    
     everything possible  to stay out  of it.  We  just know                                                                    
     how they don't  work as intended, and there's  a lot of                                                                    
     problems.   Unfortunately, the way  the Tier  II system                                                                    
     is set up  in statute under [AS] 16.05.258  and what we                                                                    
     have to work with, there's not  a lot that we can do to                                                                    
     try to  make it more  equitable, except there  are some                                                                    
     possible issues  that we could  address on some  of the                                                                    
     questions.  And I think  the one you're referring to is                                                                    
     the residency requirements. ...                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The Board of  Game has been sued,  I'm personally named                                                                    
     in a lawsuit, I've  got personal filings against mining                                                                    
     claims that I  hold because of my actions  on the board                                                                    
     [regarding] ... not adopting  a recommended change that                                                                    
     a person  brought to  the board, so  I'm well  aware of                                                                    
     the  problem. ...  But  I  think we're  on  the way  to                                                                    
     addressing  [it],  and we've  got  a  committee of  the                                                                    
     Board of  Game right now  ... that's trying  to address                                                                    
     how  we  can better  distribute  these  permits to  our                                                                    
     people  that have  had a  history of  getting them  [so                                                                    
     they] can  get them again,  and so we don't  [have] the                                                                    
     abuse that  we see in  the current  system.  And  we do                                                                    
     get reports  of people  abusing the permit  system ...-                                                                    
     all it takes is false  statements on an application and                                                                    
     you get a permit, and to  people who used to hunt, it's                                                                    
     not fair.   I recognize  that ...; I'm not  promising a                                                                    
     solution,  but we're  on the  way to  [trying] to  find                                                                    
     one.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2025                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DAHLSTROM  made a motion  to advance from  committee the                                                               
nomination of Michael Fleagle as  appointee to the Board of Game.                                                               
There being no objection, the  confirmation was advanced from the                                                               
House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 2051                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  announced that the committee  would next consider                                                               
the appointment of Ben Grussendorf to the Board of Game.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2069                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BEN  GRUSSENDORF, Appointee,  Board of  Game, offered  his belief                                                               
that the reason his name  has been submitted for reappointment to                                                               
the Board of Game is  that the advisory committees throughout the                                                               
state,  the   Alaska  Outdoor  Council  (AOC),   the  Territorial                                                               
Sportsmen's  Association,  the  trappers' associations,  and  the                                                               
guide associations  all feel that he  is competent to do  the job                                                               
and  appreciate  his  viewpoint.     He  mentioned  his  lifelong                                                               
interest in game and wilderness issues.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF  asked Mr. Grussendorf  to give his  views on                                                               
bearbaiting and transporting nuisance moose.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUSSENDORF,  on the issue  of bearbaiting, said that  he has                                                               
no problems  with baiting  black bears,  but remarked  that there                                                               
should  be some  understanding, with  regard to  the location  of                                                               
such sites,  that they won't  interfere with other  activities or                                                               
with communities and residential areas  in general.  He mentioned                                                               
that although  he would  not personally hunt  over bait,  he does                                                               
see  the benefit  of  doing  so for  black  bear  because of  the                                                               
density of  the forest and because  of the ability to  select the                                                               
animal  and ensure  that it  is  not a  sow  or cub.   He  added,                                                               
"Baiting a brown  bear, that's another question;  it just doesn't                                                               
hit me as something that I'd like to see in Alaska."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUSSENDORF, on  the issue  of transporting  nuisance moose,                                                               
said  that  it is  an  interesting  idea  -  though it  could  be                                                               
dangerous -  and that he is  willing to see it  tried as proposed                                                               
in Senator Con Bunde's legislation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 2292                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DAHLSTROM  made a motion  to advance from  committee the                                                               
nomination of Ben Grussendorf as  appointee to the Board of Game.                                                               
There being no objection, the  confirmation was advanced from the                                                               
House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Resources Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 1:50 p.m.                                                                 

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