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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE
March 20, 2023
3:16 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Vice Chair
Representative Mike Prax
Representative Dan Saddler
Representative Stanley Wright
Representative Ashley Carrick
Representative Zack Fields (via teleconference)
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Jesse Sumner, Chair
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE BILL NO. 56
"An Act exempting controlled substances prescribed or dispensed
by a veterinarian to treat an animal from the requirements of
the controlled substance prescription database."
- HEARD & HELD
HOUSE BILL NO. 99
"An Act relating to and prohibiting discrimination based on
sexual orientation or gender identity or expression."
- HEARD & HELD
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HB 56
SHORT TITLE: CONTROLLED SUB. DATA: EXEMPT ANIMAL RX
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) RUFFRIDGE
02/03/23 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/03/23 (H) HSS, L&C
02/18/23 (H) HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106
02/18/23 (H) -- MEETING CANCELED --
03/02/23 (H) HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106
03/02/23 (H) Heard & Held
03/02/23 (H) MINUTE(HSS)
03/11/23 (H) HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106
03/11/23 (H) Moved HB 56 Out of Committee
03/11/23 (H) MINUTE(HSS)
03/15/23 (H) HSS RPT 6DP
03/15/23 (H) DP: SUMNER, RUFFRIDGE, MCCORMICK,
SADDLER, MINA, PRAX
03/20/23 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
BILL: HB 99
SHORT TITLE: DISCRIMINATION: GENDER ID.;SEXUAL ORIENT.
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) ARMSTRONG
03/08/23 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
03/08/23 (H) L&C, CRA, JUD
03/15/23 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
03/15/23 (H) <Bill Hearing Canceled>
03/17/23 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
03/17/23 (H) Heard & Held
03/17/23 (H) MINUTE(L&C)
03/20/23 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
WITNESS REGISTER
BUD SEXTON, Staff
Representative Justin Ruffridge
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: On behalf of Representative Ruffridge,
prime sponsor, presented HB 56 and gave the sectional analysis.
RACHEL BERNGARTT, DVM
Board of Veterinary Examiners
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-offered a PowerPoint presentation on HB
56, titled "Why It Makes Sense to Exempt Veterinarians."
TRACY WARD, DVM, Past President
Alaska State Veterinary Medical Association
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-offered a PowerPoint presentation on HB
56, titled "Why It Makes Sense to Exempt Veterinarians."
REPRESENTATIVE JENNIE ARMSTRONG
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: As prime sponsor, introduced HB 99.
JOSH SMITH, representing self
Chugiak, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided invited testimony in support of HB
99.
LYNN DAVIS, representing self
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided invited testimony in support of HB
99.
MAUREEN LONGWORTH, MD, representing self
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided invited testimony in support of HB
99.
HAYLEE MORRIS, Small Business Owner
Kenai, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
MORGAN LIM, Lobbyist
Planned Parenthood Alliance Advocates for Alaska
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
KASEY CASORT, representing self
Fairbanks, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
ROSE O'HARA-JOLLEY, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
TARA LYNCH-HUSSLY (ph), representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
MARIAH BENNETT, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
MICHAEL CONTI, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
JAMIE GIBSON, representing self
Fairbanks, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
TERRY SULLIVAN, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
MICHAEL GARVEY, Lobbyist
American Civil Liberties Union of AK
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
KEARSTYN "JAMES" COTTON, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
BROOKS BANKER, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
MENEKA THIRU, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
ALEX B. JOHNSON, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
PAIGE CHASE, representing self
Wasilla, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
NORA GECAN, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
JESSI SAIKI, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
CANYON KOKOCHURUK, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
JOHNNY ELLIOTT, representing self
Sitka, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
SARAH FIEDLER, representing self
Houston, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
MIKE COONS, President
Concerned Conservatives of Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to HB 99.
ALEX BURY, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
JESSICA ROZATO, representing self
Denali, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
JOSHUA KNICELY, representing self
North Pole, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
ROBERT HOCKEMA, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
ZIA HETRICK, representing self
Eagle River, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
TIMOTHY ANDERSON, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
LISA MALONEY, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
KATE VEH, representing self
Soldotna, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
SUSAN BREZNICK, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
TITESUS EPSILON, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
ERINN BARNETT, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
ED MARTIN, representing self
Kenai, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the hearing on HB 99.
MICHAEL FLINT, representing self
Pride at Work, Alaska Chapter
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
DARCY COUGHLEN, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
CARLY JENSEN, representing self
Soldotna, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
AMBER O'BRIEN, representing self
Wasilla, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
MERCEDES ARCINIEGA, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
JAINA WILLAHAN, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
MELISSA WHITE, representing self
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 99.
ACTION NARRATIVE
3:16:19 PM
VICE CHAIR JUSTIN RUFFRIDGE called the House Labor and Commerce
Standing Committee meeting to order at 3:16 p.m.
Representatives Saddler, Prax, Wright, Fields (via
teleconference), and Ruffridge were present at the call to
order. Representative Carrick arrived as the meeting was in
progress.
HB 56-CONTROLLED SUB. DATA: EXEMPT ANIMAL RX
3:17:24 PM
VICE CHAIR RUFFRIDGE announced that the first order of business
would be HOUSE BILL NO. 56, "An Act exempting controlled
substances prescribed or dispensed by a veterinarian to treat an
animal from the requirements of the controlled substance
prescription database."
3:17:47 PM
BUD SEXTON, Staff, Representative Justin Ruffridge, Alaska State
Legislature, on behalf of Representative Ruffridge, prime
sponsor, introduced HB 56. He stated that the proposed
legislation would exempt veterinarians from the requirements to
report on the [Prescription Drug Monitoring Program (PDMP)]. He
referenced the concern that when an individual brings a pet to a
veterinary clinic, the pet owner's personal medical information
is under review.
MR. SEXTON gave the sectional analysis for HB 56 [copy included
in the committee packet], which read as follows [original
punctuation provided]:
Section 1. AS 17.30.200(o) is amended to remove "and
the Board of Veterinary Examiners" from the
notification requirement when a practitioner registers
with the database under (n) of this section.
Sec. 2. AS 17.30.200 is amended by adding a new
subsection to read: This section does not apply to a
schedule II, III, or IV controlled substance
prescribed or dispensed by a veterinarian licensed
under AS 08.98 to treat an animal.
Sec. 3. AS 08.98.050(a)(10) is repealed which removes
the requirement for Veterinarians under the controlled
substance prescription database.
3:20:21 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 3:20 p.m. to 3:21 p.m.
3:21:46 PM
TRACY WARD, DVM, Past President, Alaska State Veterinary Medical
Association (AKVMA), provided invited testimony on HB 56 and co-
offered a PowerPoint presentation, titled "Why It Makes Sense to
Exempt Veterinarians." She stated that both AKVMA and the
Alaska Board of Veterinary Examiners (BOVE) "strongly" support
HB 56, which would exempt veterinarians from the requirements of
PDMP. She continued that the Alaska Board of Pharmacy also
supports the proposed legislation. On slide 4, she gave the
background on PDMP in Alaska.
3:23:38 PM
DR. WARD moved to slide 5 and stated that PDMP is ineffective
for veterinarians because it was established for use with human
medication, not animal medication. She continued that the
current system is not useful for the data because the PDMP query
is made on the individual who brings the animal to the
veterinarian, and it is the human's data that is obtained. She
explained that this is not useful because veterinarians are not
trained in human pharmacology. She continued to slide 6 and
reviewed the human privacy issue, as the Health Insurance
Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) does not cover
veterinarians; therefore, veterinarians are not required to keep
the information obtained private. She pointed out a list of
medications this may concern. She moved to slide 7, which
addressed accountability for veterinarians with controlled
substances, and she referenced that both the Drug Enforcement
Agency (DEA) and the distributors of controlled substances
monitor patterns of drug prescriptions by veterinarians.
3:27:31 PM
RACHEL BERNGARTT, DVM, Chair, Board of Veterinary Examiners,
provided invited testimony on HB 56 and co-offered a PowerPoint
presentation, titled "Why It Makes Sense to Exempt
Veterinarians." On slide 8, she pointed out that 33 other
states have removed the requirement that veterinarians report on
PDMP, and she advised that there is wide spread acceptance for
this exemption. She stated that PDMP is a "good tool" for
"doctor shopping;" however, there has been no reported increase
in this behavior concerning veterinarians. She moved to slide 9
and pointed out the difference between the drugs veterinarians
prescribe and the drugs related to overdose deaths. She moved
to slide 10, pointing out the licensing burden that PDMP causes
BOVE and the licensees.
3:32:06 PM
DR. BERNGARTT, moving to slide 11, stated that Alaska has the
highest licensing fees for veterinarians in the country. She
advised that nationwide there is a veterinarian shortage. She
suggested that these high fees will deter veterinarians from
moving to Alaska. Concluding on slide 12, she pointed out that
AKVMA and Bove support HB 56 because it will allow veterinarians
to provide appropriate care for each patient; increase the
efficiency of PDMP for its intended purpose; allow continued
judicious use of controlled substances; and eliminate
unnecessary and disproportionate business burdens for
veterinarians.
3:34:06 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER questioned what medications veterinarians
prescribe if opioids and these types of drugs are not prescribed
by veterinarians.
DR. BERNGARTT responded that one of the primary opioid
medications prescribed is a small amount of hydrocodone in a
flavored-type dog treat for small dogs with a cough. She added
that these treats are expensive. In response to a follow-up
question, she confirmed that some drugs veterinarians prescribe
can be used by humans; however, she argued that these drugs,
such as antibiotics, are not controlled substances related to
PDMP.
3:37:55 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 3:37 p.m. to 3:38 p.m.
[During the at-ease, Vice Chair Ruffridge passed the gavel to
Representative Wright.]
3:38:37 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE, as prime sponsor, offered closing
comments on HB 56. He stated that the proposed legislation has
been before the legislature for a number of years, and he
suggested that it be passed. He offered that PDMP is an
important program; however, veterinarians should be able to
continue to do their work while keeping patient information
private.
3:39:38 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 3:39 p.m. to 3:40 p.m.
[Representative Wright passed the gavel back to Vice Chair
Ruffridge.]
3:40:06 PM
VICE CHAIR RUFFRIDGE announced that HB 56 was held over.
HB 99-DISCRIMINATION: GENDER ID.;SEXUAL ORIENT.
3:40:12 PM
VICE CHAIR RUFFRIDGE announced that the final order of business
would be HOUSE BILL NO. 99, "An Act relating to and prohibiting
discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity or
expression."
3:40:41 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JENNIE ARMSTRONG, Alaska State Legislature, as
prime sponsor, introduced HB 99. She notified the committee
that the Alaska State Commission for Human Rights has
jurisdiction in some subject areas in public schools, and
certain parts of the committee packet were created by this
commission's staff and not the Department of Law staff.
3:42:37 PM
JOSH SMITH, representing self, provided invited testimony in
support of HB 99. He shared that he served for 10 years in the
United States Air Force and expressed pride in this; however, he
stated that the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy for the armed
forces was "difficult" for him, as he had to keep his identity
as a gay man hidden for fear of being discharged. He shared
that this had resulted in him being unable to express his
"authentic self," and any conversations he had were
"inauthentic," as he had to avoid the truth in order to maintain
his position. He said that he eventually began to consider
self-harm and eventually attempted suicide.
MR. SMITH stated that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was rescinded
during his time in the Air Force; however, the culture of the
military "took time to catch up;" therefore, he continued to
hide his sexuality. He stated that some of his colleagues
continued to speak poorly of the lesbian, gay, bisexual,
transgender, queer or questioning (LGBTQ) community, and after
he began to share his sexuality, some accepted him while he
continued to face discrimination from military leadership and
older civilian employees. He expressed the understanding that
homophobia was "the price to be paid" for the acceptance of his
peers. He shared that there were others who also faced the same
discrimination.
MR. SMITH stated that he remained careful of sharing his
sexuality with others when he was away from his installation.
He said that the federal workplace regulations protecting
against discrimination did not exist off base. He expressed
concern for his safety and the potential effects in other parts
of his life. He gave the example of purchasing a home and not
mentioning his significant other. He said that increasing
protections for the LGBTQ community in Alaska have given him a
chance to feel comfortable being his true self and healing from
the years of shame and oppression. He said that affirming
legislation and public sentiment have given him a chance to live
authentically with his husband of 5 years. He concluded by
expressing the belief that discrimination has "no place in
Alaska," and without legal protections discrimination is still
possible.
3:47:35 PM
LYNN DAVIS, representing self, provided invited testimony in
support of HB 99. She shared that she worked for 15 years for
the Department of Labor and Workforce Development at the Juneau
Job Center. While working at the job center, she stated that
she witnessed many instances of discrimination against members
of the LGBTQ+ community in terms of hiring, firing, job
retention, and receiving job interviews. She described the
losing of one's job because of discrimination as a "wound to the
soul." She stated that more than 30 members of the LGBTQ+
community testified about losing their jobs because of
discrimination when the City of Juneau considered protections
for members of the LGBTQ+ community. She expressed the opinion
that talented workers pay attention to the states with
protections for LGBTQ+ people. She continued that having these
protections would strengthen the workforce of Alaska.
3:50:45 PM
MAUREEN LONGWORTH, MD, representing self, provided invited
testimony in support of HB 99. She shared that she is a retired
physician who has treated patients who have shown signs of
distress because of discrimination. She said that some of her
patients expressed suicidal thoughts at the idea of being
discriminated against because of their sexual orientation. She
said that various health organizations are supportive of
legislation which would create "safe and equal" home, work, and
public environments for members of the LGBTQ community. She
said that medical studies show that equality provisions result
in healthier communities. She pointed out that because of the
remoteness of many communities in Alaska, it can be difficult
for members of the LGBTQ community to find support, and she
suggested that laws protecting these individuals from
discrimination would reduce the risk of isolation. She pointed
out that Alaska has a disproportionate number of teen suicides
and homelessness, and this number is increased among the LGBTQ
community.
3:53:58 PM
HAYLEE MORRIS, Small Business Owner, provided invited testimony
in support of HB 99. She shared that as a licensed professional
counselor she has worked with Alaskans who need behavioral
health services to address gender identity and sexual
orientation issues in regard to employment. She noted a
particular client who experienced a hostile work environment,
which led to suicidal thoughts. She said that this client left
the job and has no insurance or a paycheck. She stated that
instead of paying in to public resources via taxes, the
individual needs public assistance. She said that her client is
currently on Medicaid.
MS. MORRIS referenced a second client in a similar situation,
whose employer is affirming and supportive in preventing
discrimination despite having no legal obligation to do so. She
said that this client's taxes go towards paying for public
assistance programs rather than collecting public assistance.
She advised that workplace morale has a great impact on the
mental health of her clients. She continued that she has
witnessed discrimination against LGBTQ+ individuals when it
comes to housing and knows of people at risk of losing jobs
because of discrimination. She expressed the opinion that HB 99
would help improve the mental health of Alaskans and reduce tax
burdens.
3:59:06 PM
VICE CHAIR RUFFRIDGE opened public testimony on HB 99. He
stated the House Labor and Commerce committee had received
testimony from 1,000 people.
4:00:09 PM
MORGAN LIM, Lobbyist, Planned Parenthood Alliance Advocates for
Alaska, testified in support of HB 99. He stated that the
proposed legislation would update Alaska's nondiscrimination
statutes regarding dignity and fairness for the LGBTQ community.
He expressed the opinion that everyone deserves to be
his/her/their authentic self, without discrimination. He
asserted Alaskans across the state live in fear of losing
housing, public services, and financial opportunities because of
gender, identity expression, and sexual orientation. He
advanced Planned Parenthood as a good organization for public
health and business. He explained many LGBTQ individuals hide
their identities at work for fear of earning lower wages and
fewer employment opportunities, adding that discrimination can
lead to several physiological maladies. He maintained HB 99 is
good for the LGBTQ community and good for Alaska.
4:02:37 PM
KASEY CASORT, representing self, praised HB 99, and expressed
enthusiastic support. She provided her personal background and
the history of similar legislation from 2015. She highlighted
portions of the proposed bill that refer to the types of
discrimination LGBTQ communities face. She expressed the
realization of how vulnerable her friends are to these forms of
discrimination. She urged testifiers to share terrifying
stories to show how discrimination has affected people. In
contrast, she provided a story of attending her first drag show
at the age of 18, and how "queer joy" has changed her life in a
positive way. This had allowed her to imagine a future. She
spoke about "coming out" to her sister. She expressed the idea
that queer joy is abundant, with room for everyone to experience
it. She thanked the committee.
4:04:40 PM
ROSE O'HARA-JOLLEY, representing self, indicated that [they
preferred the pronoun "they"] and lived in the Interior for 10
years before moving to Anchorage. They identified themself as
an "out, queer person" who has experienced discrimination, and
they also spoke about sharing queer joy. They said, "Regardless
of what the legislature does, we will always exist and will
always carve out spaces for ourselves." They remarked that
turning 40 this year was a "milestone" for a queer person. They
said they were "fully out" in the workplace, with co-workers who
respect the appropriate pronouns. They stated that they have
safe housing, with an active social life with people who know
and love them. They said, "I do not have to hide who I am, and
that is amazing." They said housing, employment, and access to
necessities should be a right, not a privilege, extended equally
to everyone in the state, as many people feel they cannot "come
out" publicly for fear of being fired or evicted. They urged
the committee to pass HB 99 so all people in Alaska can have
happy and full lives, free from fear.
4:07:16 PM
TARA LYNCH-HUSSLY (ph), representing self, stated, "As a queer
indigenous youth, I have faced a lot of discrimination." She
stated that every day she is pushed to put a label on her
sexuality and conform to society's labels. She emphasized the
importance of not labeling people. She shared that she is
fortunate to have a safe home where she can live openly. She
stated that she never had to "come out" to her family because
they already knew when she was young. She said LGBT youth in
Alaska are discriminated against, and suicide rates and
depression are very high in this demographic. She expressed
fear that friends "do bad stuff to themself" because they do not
have an accepting community. She said HB 99 would be "amazing"
for herself and the rest of the LGBT community.
4:10:04 PM
MARIAH BENNETT, representing self, said that it is essential the
transgender people have the same rights and protection as all
citizens. She said that transgender individuals have faced
discrimination and marginalization throughout history, and it is
crucial to remember that transgender are people just like
everyone else and should be treated with dignity. She urged
inclusivity among all people. She reminded the committee that
the Constitution of the United States provides protections for
all and expressed hope that the proposed bill would pass.
4:11:57 PM
MICHAEL CONTI, representing self, said he has a transgender son,
and he supports HB 99. He stated that the LGBTQ community has
been discriminated against historically, with violent acts
imposed on them. He urged that this community needs the same
rights and protections as everyone. He opined that HB 99 is
important for the safety of all people. He related that his son
struggled emotionally through middle and high school, and when
he "came out" as nonbinary, and eventually transgender, the
family witnessed his mood elevate with the acceptance of self.
He said he does not think LGBTQ people are trying to influence
anyone else's identity, rather "it's just about being themself."
4:14:15 PM
JAMIE GIBSON, representing self, testified in support of HB 99,
and indicated that [they prefer the pronoun "they"]. They
described that they are a nonbinary lesbian and queer success
story. They talked about being out with friends and at work but
not feeling safe being who they are with strangers. They said
Alaska law has never been on their side, so they have never felt
safe seeking help. They said that Alaska's discrimination laws
do not protect the LGBTQ community, which means "folks like me
can be denied housing and public services just because of our
gender identity, sexual orientation, or gender expression."
They spoke about being proud and healing publicly in order to
help those suffering in silence. They voiced that all LGBTQ
people deserve the same rights as straight, cisgender people,
and they urged the committee to pass HB 99.
4:16:20 PM
TERRY SULLIVAN, representing self, testified in support of HB
99. She shared that she had no idea about how "primitive"
Alaska's discrimination law was until she had a transgender
grandchild. She expressed her appreciation for the proposed
legislation and her hope that everyone would have the right "to
be proud and happy and safe."
4:17:32 PM
MICHAEL GARVEY, Lobbyist, American Civil Liberties Union of
Alaska, testified in support of HB 99. He pointed out that
there are sound arguments why HB 99 should be passed, as
constitutional rights and civil liberties of LGBTQ Alaskans
should be guaranteed; however, he maintained that in the moment
the argument to pass the bill is a moral one. He explained that
recent news "has underscored the constant and increased
hostility that LGBTQ people face." He listed the following
examples: the Human Rights Commission's refusal to investigate
nonemployment complaints; the State Board of Education acting in
secret to pass an antitransgender sports resolution; and a bill
from Governor Mike Dunleavy that "would violate the privacy and
safety of queer youth." He spoke about the joy that LGBTQ
people bring to their families and communities, and he argued it
is morally imperative that the government help them "live free,
full lives." He said HB 99 would help LGBTQ Alaskans address
the harm they face daily and be in a better position to secure a
safe home and economic security. He advised that it is time the
state guarantee its prioritization of freedom and opportunity to
everyone, and he urged the committee to pass HB 99.
4:19:33 PM
KEARSTYN "JAMES" COTTON, representing self, testified as a
transgender man in support of HB 99. He expressed his anxiety
about seeking public support or employment because of
discrimination in response to his identity. He expressed
support for the solidarity of the LGBTQ community in standing
for its rights.
4:20:33 PM
BROOKS BANKER, representing self, testified in support of HB 99.
He spoke about the violence inflicted on LGBTQ people in Alaska.
He mentioned the Civil Rights Act and the Alaska Human Rights
Act as doctrines intended to protect people historically
targeted by injustices. He spoke of discrimination as
perpetuating violence on a vulnerable population especially
transgender youth and people of color. He suggested that HB 99
would help end the violence and harassment experienced by the
LGBTQ community.
4:23:22 PM
MENEKA THIRU, representing self, testified in support of HB 99.
She emphasized she has many friends who are part of the LGBTQ
community and expressed concern about the discrimination they
may face seeking work. She encouraged the committee to support
HB 99.
4:25:07 PM
ALEX B. JOHNSON, representing self, testified in support of HB
99, as it would offer protection against discrimination for him
and other gay or transgender Alaskans. He said extending the
definition of "sex" in Alaska law to include sexual orientation
and gender identity is essential to protect marginalized groups
in Alaska. He cited the U.S. Supreme Court case, Bostock v.
Clayton County, 590 U.S. 644, (2020), in which the court stated
that it is "impossible to discriminate against a person for
being homosexual or transgender without discriminating against
the individual based on sex."
4:27:03 PM
PAIGE CHASE, representing self, testified in support of HB 99.
She said the proposed legislation would protect her and others
by expanding the definition of "sex discrimination" to include
sexuality and gender identification. She said her health could
suffer if HB 99 does not pass, as she is disabled and relies on
a team of specialists for support. She stated that allowing
health care workers to refuse her as a patient or to treat her
differently because she is queer could prevent her from
accessing necessary treatment, and this would severely diminish
her quality of life. She said, "My physical health demands a
lot of time and energy for me, so that last thing I need is to
be worried that I'm not receiving the best possible care because
of sexuality." She said HB 99 would protect her from
discrimination by medical professionals.
4:28:20 PM
NORA GECAN, representing self, said she is a member of the queer
community in Anchorage and expressed support for HB 99. She
characterized the queer community in Alaska as "beautiful,
strong, creative, and generous," as well as deserving of
protection. She said while she has been fortunate to secure
housing and a job, many LGBTQ+ people in Alaska are not as
fortunate and are at high risk of losing housing and employment
as a result of discrimination. She described the former
experience of losing a job for reasons other than discrimination
as hard; however, it would be harder on her mental and emotional
health if the termination had been based on her sexuality. She
suggested this would have made her consider leaving Alaska. She
stated that antidiscrimination legislation "can protect many and
hurt no one."
4:30:34 PM
JESSI SAIKI, representing self, testified in support of HB 99
and indicated that [they preferred the pronoun "they"]. They
said they are nonbinary and autistic. They stated that above
all, they are a human being, who wants to live "the best life
possible, probably just like all of you." They said they dream
of a life where they do not have to live in fear and secrecy.
Growing up in Wasilla, they said they were "outed" by their
peers in high school, and this brought on isolation, harassment,
and violence. They expressed joy in working with the LGBTQ
community and heartbreak at witnessing the pain, isolation, and
violence youth are experiencing. They emphasized, "All we want
to do is be ourselves, to live the life our hearts and minds
tell us to." They expressed the belief that HB 99 will save
lives.
4:32:50 PM
CANYON KOKOCHURUK, representing self, said he was testifying as
a queer Alaska Native man in support of HB 99. He related the
various ways he has been assaulted [for being queer] and had
gone through conversion therapy. He suggested that HB 99 would
ensure something is done about these discriminatory acts.
Furthermore, the proposed legislation would make it possible for
someone who is queer to obtain housing. He talked about the
bill providing the safety needed for queer people to be who they
are.
4:35:42 PM
JOHNNY ELLIOTT, representing self, referenced the Bostock v.
Clayton County case and the finding that discrimination based on
sexual orientation is discrimination based on sex. He opined
that the same could be said for gender identity and expression.
He noted that the Department of Law said the logic [of the judge
in the case] applied only to employment. He expressed the
opinion that the application should be much broader. He
expressed excitement that HB 99 "clarifies this issue on the
right side" and "reaffirms a needed civil right for equal
protection" for Alaska's LGBTQ community.
4:37:48 PM
SARAH FIEDLER, representing self, testified as a parent of a
teen, who is part of the LGBTQ community. She talked about the
transition to adulthood, expressing concern about her son's
safety. She expressed the opinion that HB 99 would be a
critical piece of a solution. She talked about the right to
live without discrimination and her dream as a parent for her
child to live his life as himself and how an individual who is
allowed to do that can be a gift to the community.
4:39:22 PM
MIKE COONS, President, Concerned Conservatives of Alaska,
testified in opposition to HB 99. He stated that HB 99 "is just
more 'woke' and LGBCDDXYZ garbage." He said he has "no problem"
with the provision in Section 1 of the bill to add "sex" [to AS
18.80.300(1)]; however, regarding Section 2 of the bill, he
pointed to science and maintained that for tens of thousands of
years there have been the male and female sex only. He said,
"Laws, like science, are supposed to be based on fact." He
asked the committee to vote down HB 99.
4:42:20 PM
ALEX BURY, representing self, shared that she had left Alaska to
feel safer, but returned as she "missed it." She pointed out
that if she were to lose her job because of being gay, this
could put "a drain on straight resources," and she spoke about
the financial and emotional impacts of discrimination. She
expressed fear that if HB 99 does not pass, this would be a
signal to some "cruel people" that "it's okay to hurt or kill
people they don't like." She said passing HB 99 would send the
message that all Alaskans deserve the same basic rights and
protections. She asked the committee to pass HB 99.
4:44:05 PM
JESSICA ROZATO, representing self, said she is gay, and her
partner is transgender, and she is testifying on behalf of
herself and her partner in support of HB 99. She noted there
are supporters of the LGBTQ community throughout Alaska. She
said, "I ask you all to positively and properly show our state's
strength in regard for all human life by prohibiting
discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity
and implement this necessary bill."
4:45:48 PM
JOSHUA KNICELY, representing self, testified in support of HB
99, stating that it would ban discrimination based on gender
identity and sexual orientation. He said this is important,
because "discrimination stunts the economy." He said the amount
of discrimination in Alaska makes him consider leaving. He
asked the committee to pass HB 99.
4:47:02 PM
ROBERT HOCKEMA, representing self, expressed the opinion that
the proposed legislation is long overdue. He said he grew up in
a conservative part of the state and understands the fear some
may have that the proposed legislation "codifies sexual life for
a certain population." He said he knows that the LGBTQ
community "is one of many that the members of this entire
chamber aren't particularly sympathetic to." He stated that in
an ideal world there would be no need for government mandates,
but because of the "bad apples out there," the government must
take an active role in "leveling the playing field." He spoke
of protecting minorities who face discrimination. He continued
that denying access to people based on something they cannot
change about themselves is not upholding "life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness." To those who may consider this
governmental overreach, he posited that "for Alaska to stand for
freedom from government, we have to stand against
discrimination." He asked for overall support of the bill,
including its "inevitable veto" by the governor.
4:49:41 PM
ZIA HETRICK, representing self, testified as a queer,
transgender Alaskan in support of HB 99 and indicated that [they
preferred the pronoun "they"]. They said discrimination has a
huge impact on queer people in Alaska, sharing that they have
experienced discrimination in the workplace and in life. They
said that they feel safe in a bubble of queer friends and allies
but is not protected outside of this bubble. They said
antidiscrimination legislation "protects so many and hurts no
one."
4:50:45 PM
TIMOTHY ANDERSON, representing self, expressed the belief that
HB 99 is especially needed because of anti-LGBTQ+ discrimination
and legislation in Alaska and other parts of the country.
4:52:39 PM
LISA MALONEY, representing self, argued that HB 99 should be
passed because "LGBTQ rights are human rights." She said that
members of the LGBTQ community are discriminated against and
harassed and need the protection provided by the bill. She said
that feeling safe at home and at work should be a starting place
for people and not something that has to be worked for. She
said that it is difficult for individuals to be productive
members of society when they are concerned for their wellbeing.
4:54:42 PM
KATE VEH, representing self, testified in support of HB 99. She
said that "we" are entering a new era in which "all colors of
the rainbow" can have families. She expressed the belief that
her late uncle was likely gay and would have been accepted in
current times. She said that she is proud of LGBTQ people for
overcoming the challenges with which they have been faced. She
encouraged young people to vote for politicians who are
supportive of LGBTQ rights.
4:56:36 PM
SUSAN BREZNICK, representing self, testified in support of HB
99. She stated that she supports HB 99 because her son is a
member of the LGBTQ community. She said that it makes her sad
to hear stories of LGBTQ people facing discrimination, and
everyone deserves to have access to healthcare and a place to
live.
4:58:38 PM
TITESUS EPSILON, representing self, testified in support of HB
99. He said, "There's a lot of people like me, and I didn't
know I was a person like me for a long time." He indicated he's
worked at the university and in Anchorage, and he said things
are challenging there. He expressed love for Alaska and said he
feels welcome "here" to contribute "the most that I have." He
described HB 99 as a step in the right direction for leadership
to indicate that "people like me" are included and are part of
the team that makes [Alaska] a better place. He encouraged
those legislators who may not want to vote for HB 99 to "just
get it out of the way" and "move forward."
5:00:47 PM
ERINN BARNETT, representing self, testified in support of HB 99.
She said she is a queer lesbian who is lucky to be part of the
queer community and have safe, secure housing, as well as being
"out" at work. Nevertheless, she said there is never a time
where she does not need to consider "what is safe for me to
disclose," on resumes or in public. She indicated these issues
are magnified for those who are transgender and gender
nonconforming, as they have lost jobs and have struggled to find
safe and consistent housing as a result of the biases of others.
She urged the committee to pass HB 99, which she described as "a
huge step forward."
5:03:23 PM
ED MARTIN, representing self, testified on HB 99 and requested
the deletion of part of Section 2. He said he does not have a
problem with Section 1 of HB 99 but urged the committee to amend
Section 2 to delete [paragraph] (20), which relates that the
definition of "sex" include sexual orientation and gender
identity or expression. He opined that this language does not
define sex "as we have all known as a social norm for many, many
years, all my life," and he expressed opposition that it belongs
in this law. He said he would support HB 99 without this
language. He added that he is a man, his wife is a woman, and
his children were all born a certain sex.
5:05:57 PM
MICHAEL FLINT, representing self, Pride at Work, Alaska Chapter,
described himself as a nonbinary disabled veteran living with
PTSD. He stated that he was in the military under the "Don't
Ask, Don't Tell" policy. He said he had to continue hiding who
he was and faced discrimination when he moved to Alaska. He
stated he has taken unapologetic pride in himself and the state;
however, he has found it hard justifying living in Alaska with
his spouse, as the state does not have equal protections. He
described an interaction with a banker who encouraged not
putting his husband on a loan for their house, and he suggested
that this was "insulting." He stated the reason for creating
Pride at Work was to create a community for queer employees and
individuals in the workforce. He expressed discomfort when
being himself at work. He emphasized that the right of queer
people to exist should not be up for debate and referenced
legislation from Alaska and other states. He suggested that
over 70 percent of Americans support LGBTQ+ rights, and Alaska
should not discourage queer individuals or allies from moving
into the state, as the state is losing population.
5:08:16 PM
DARCY COUGHLEN, representing self, described the "brightest"
part of her life had been when she "came out" as queer and
transgender. She stated she moved to Alaska in 2017 and stayed
because she had found community, friends, and family. She said
she felt betrayed when her safety was questioned, and this had
made her grieve for the pseudo safety she had felt within her
community. She emphasized that antidiscrimination laws hurt
nobody while helping everyone. She stated she works in a well-
known brewery in Anchorage and has been frequently confronted
with individuals who have political beliefs directly in
opposition to her existence, but she makes sure to treat them
with care and warmth.
5:10:53 PM
CARLY JENSEN, representing self, said she grew up reciting the
Pledge of Allegiance every morning and took to heart "liberty
and justice for all." She expressed the opinion that the creeds
of the country would not be upheld if there were not protections
in place for the marginalized, and she argued that the state
needs to ensure the rights of every American. She emphasized
that she has a master's degree in biology, and she described
science as being in support of different [physiological]
expressions rather than chromosomal technology. She stated that
biology and science support five main factors of expression:
chromosomal, hormonal, hormonal expression, internal genitalia,
and external genitalia. She said that statistically there are
120 different potential combinations of these. She expressed
the opinion that to say there is only a binary is very
narrowminded. She continued by pointing out that this argument
is done without cutting down, degrading, or being overly
condescending to the opposing side.
5:12:51 PM
AMBER O'BRIEN, representing self, stated that her daughter
identifies as queer and goes to school in Wasilla. She
expressed the opinion that children in Alaska should not live
with an uncertain future in regard to "coming out" at school, as
now parents are not able to reassure them of their safety and
security with housing or a job. She emphasized that equality
does not hurt anybody, as it is not a limited resource, and it
could be given freely, while discrimination hurts everybody, not
just queer people.
5:14:21 PM
MERCEDES ARCINIEGA, representing self, said the bill is a
crucial part of implementing fair housing for all. She added
that Section 2 of HB 99 would make a clear delineation of what
constitutes as discrimination by sex or gender. She emphasized
there are many "ignorant" things being said during the meeting
and encouraged individuals to do more modern research to
understand the differentiation of gender, gender expression, and
sex. She expressed the opinion that the antidiscrimination
bills do not harm anyone. She stated she is queer, and she and
her wife own a business. She stated that she would "feel
prouder" to be an Alaskan if there were better protections for
housing and employment.
5:16:36 PM
JAINA WILLAHAN, representing self, stated she is bisexual and
spoke about one of her close friends being discriminated against
concerning housing, and her friend had ended up living in a car.
She expressed support of HB 99 as a step forward for more
equality, as LGBTQ+ rights are human rights.
5:17:51 PM
MELISSA WHITE, representing self, said she is a mother of a
young child and is an established professional in education and
healthcare. She stated that Alaska should be "proud" to have
antidiscrimination laws, and she expressed the opinion that the
laws are not only morally right but are the best for the economy
and community. She emphasized that it should not be lost in the
discussion that the laws effect human beings. She stated that
multiple times the U.S. and Alaska have stood on the side of
inclusivity and equality, and currently the ideas around
discrimination are outdated, threatening the safety of the
entire community. She added that bills like HB 99 would not
only affect the rights of queer individuals but also the rights
of women, children, veterans, and disabled individuals.
5:19:46 PM
VICE CHAIR RUFFRIDGE, after ascertaining that there was no one
else who wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 99.
5:19:56 PM
VICE CHAIR RUFFRIDGE announced that HB 99 was held over.
5:20:05 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting was [adjourned] at
5:20 p.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 56 FAQ.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| HB0056A.PDF |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| HB56 Sectional Analysis.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| HB 56 Hearing Slides 2023 (002).pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| HB 56 Fiscal Note.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| 2023AVKMA-PDMPWhitePaper.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
|
| House Bill 56 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
|
| HB56 VerSteeg Support Letter.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| PDMPFlyer.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
|
| HB56 Delker Support.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| HB 56 Support Letter Greg.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| HB56 letter removing opposition vets PDMP.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| HB 56 AKPhA Letter of Support (002)_Redacted.pdf |
HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 56 |
| Letters of Support HB 99.pdf |
HCRA 4/11/2023 8:00:00 AM HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 99 |
| HB99 Letter of Opposition.pdf |
HCRA 4/11/2023 8:00:00 AM HL&C 3/20/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 99 |