02/18/2013 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE
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| *+ | HB 71 | TELECONFERENCED | |
ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE
February 18, 2013
3:21 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Kurt Olson, Chair
Representative Mike Chenault
Representative Bob Herron
Representative Charisse Millett
Representative Dan Saddler
Representative Andy Josephson
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Lora Reinbold, Vice Chair
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE BILL NO. 32
"An Act providing for the issuance of one business license for
multiple lines of business; and providing for reissuance of a
business license to correct a mistake on the license."
- HEARD & HELD
HOUSE BILL NO. 71
"An Act extending the termination date of the Alaska regional
economic assistance program; and providing for an effective
date."
- HEARD & HELD
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HB 32
SHORT TITLE: LINES OF BUSINESS ON BUSINESS LICENSE
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) COSTELLO, HUGHES
01/16/13 (H) PREFILE RELEASED 1/7/13
01/16/13 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/16/13 (H) L&C, FIN
02/18/13 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
BILL: HB 71
SHORT TITLE: AK REGIONAL ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HUGHES
01/16/13 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/16/13 (H) L&C, FIN
02/18/13 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
WITNESS REGISTER
REPRESENTATIVE MIA COSTELLO
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified and answered questions as a prime
joint sponsor of HB 32.
MARY SCHLOSSER, Staff
Representative Mia Costello
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on behalf of Representative Mia
Costello, as a prime joint sponsor of HB 32.
REPRESENTATIVE SHELLEY HUGHES
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as a prime joint sponsor of HB
32.
DON HABEGER, Director
Division of Corporations, Business, and Professional Licensing
(DCBPL)
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED)
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided information on HB 32
CATHIE ROEMMICH, Chief Executive Director (CEO)
Juneau Chamber of Commerce (JCC)
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 32.
PEGGY ANN MCCONNOCHIE, Owner
ACH Consulting; Real Estate Broker
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the discussion of HB 32.
SHERRILEE BULLER, Owner
Upstream Mobile
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the discussion HB 32.
REPRESENTATIVE SHELLEY HUGHES
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as a joint prime sponsor of HB
71.
SHELLY WRIGHT, Executive Director
Southeast Conference
Alaska Regional Development Organization (ARDOR)
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED)
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the discussion of HB 71.
ANDY VARNER, Executive Director
Southwest Alaska Municipal Conference
(SWAMC)
Alaska Regional Development Organization (ARDORS)
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED)
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the discussion of HB 71.
ACTION NARRATIVE
3:21:39 PM
CHAIR KURT OLSON called the House Labor and Commerce Standing
Committee meeting to order at 3:21 p.m. Representatives
Chenault, Herron, Saddler, Josephson, and Olson were present at
the call to order. Representative Millett arrived as the
meeting was in progress.
HB 32-LINES OF BUSINESS ON BUSINESS LICENSE
3:22:01 PM
CHAIR OLSON announced that the first order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 32, "An Act providing for the issuance of one
business license for multiple lines of business; and providing
for reissuance of a business license to correct a mistake on the
license."
3:22:27 PM
REPRESENTATIVE MIA COSTELLO, Alaska State Legislature, Juneau,
Alaska, stated Alaska can do a better job of creating a business
friendly environment. Small business represents one of the
fastest ways to grow Alaska's economy.
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER moved to adopt the proposed committee
substitute (CS) for HB 32, labeled 28-LS0192\O, Martin, 2/16/13,
as the working document. There being no objection, Version O
was before the committee.
3:23:51 PM
REPRESENTATIVE COSTELLO stated that HB 32 will do two things.
First, it would allow people who apply for business licenses to
include multiple lines of business in the license. Second, it
would allow a business license holder to add a new line to their
current license. She said she introduced the bill when a
constituent made a change to her business and was required to
reapply for a business license.
3:24:20 PM
MARY SCHLOSSER, Staff, Representative Mia Costello, Alaska State
Legislature, stated that under current law a separate business
license is required for each line of business or business
activity. First, this bill would allow a business to obtain a
license to cover all lines of business. It would establish an
application process to allow for multiple lines of business on a
single license application with one fee charged. Second, HB 32
would make the process more consumer friendly by smoothing the
process for changing the business licenses. She related this
bill would also require the division to correct any errors at no
charge while the business license is active. Additionally, if
the consumer needs to make a change the consumer can do so
without incurring fees within 90 days of the business license
application. Finally, this bill provides for a transition
between one type of licensing system and the new one. She
related that after working with the Division of Corporations,
Business, and Professional Licensing (DCBPL), the joint prime
sponsors are requesting some minor modifications, included in
Version O.
3:25:34 PM
MS. SCHLOSSER related the first change [on page 1, line 8] would
emphasize that the bill pertains to multiple lines of business
and not just a single line. The second change in Section 3,
[page 2, lines 8-11] would clarify the correction of errors
process and that the change process is limited to a 90-day grace
period. The third change would require an altered bill title to
reflect that the changes to the business license can also be
permitted due to mistakes or for other reasons. She concluded
that Representative Costello's goal in introducing HB 32 is to
make it possible to license a business, rather than the lines of
business, which could help make the state consumer friendly. In
closing, she mentioned that Alaska is ranked 49th by [MSNBC] and
42nd by Forbes in terms of business-friendly practices.
3:26:38 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SHELLEY HUGHES, Alaska State Legislature,
remarked on the importance of anything that can be done to move
Alaska up in the ranking. She said she wants Alaska to be
business friendly and small businesses are the heart and soul of
the folks in Alaska. She concluded that HB 32 is an important
bill. She urged members to move the bill out of committee.
3:27:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER referred to page 2, line 10 of Version O.
She asked for the type of change a person may wish to make on a
license.
REPRESENTATIVE COSTELLO answered a constituent made a mistake on
the type of business and realized it after she had submitted the
application. In response to a question, she said she was unsure
of the time that had transpired.
3:28:26 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON asked whether any known opposition.
MS. SCHLOSSER answered no.
3:28:43 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON understood that this bill would allow a
single license if the business consists of several lines of
business with the same owners to have a single license.
MS. SCHLOSSER answered that is correct as long as the owners and
name of the business is the same.
3:29:13 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON remarked he plans to cosponsor the
bill, but has some questions for the Department [of Commerce,
Community & Economic Development.]
3:29:30 PM
DON HABEGER, Director, Division of Corporations, Business, and
Professional Licensing (DCBPL), Department of Commerce,
Community, & Economic Development (DCCED), introduced himself.
CHAIR OLSON asked if department has any position on the bill.
MR. HABEGER answered the department does not have a position on
the bill. He said that certainly anything to streamline
business friendliness is a good goal.
3:30:17 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked whether the department has any
idea of revenue loss it would sustain with passage of HB 32.
MR. HABEGER related he just found out the sponsor intends the
owner and business name must be the same. Thus, the department
was not sure how to define the number. He clarified that the
some business owners have the same last name with multiple lines
of business, with different licenses. He was unsure if those
business owners were included; however, he just heard
clarification from testimony that those businesses would not be
included. He was unsure of the number of businesses affected,
but he offered to provide the data to the committee.
3:31:36 PM
CHAIR OLSON asked for clarification on the fiscal note.
MR. HABEGER answered that the fiscal note refers to a prior
version of the bill, although he wasn't sure which bill version.
Currently, the department would require a business applicant to
name a primary and secondary line of business or the North
American Industries code. The division's database is built
around that code, he said. He suggested that if the business
opens up any new lines of business it may require some
modifications to the division's database since the division
would need to track more moving pieces.
3:32:29 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked whether monies received from
business licenses fees is deposited to the general fund.
MR. HABEGER agreed business license revenue is deposited to the
general fund.
3:32:50 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER said he went to the online business
license database and noticed the primary and secondary business
lines are listed. He asked whether a business license is
currently limited to two lines of businesses.
MR. HABEGER answered no, that a business must choose a primary
line of business. Currently, he said the state offers 19 lines
of business. A business may further choose a specialty, for
example, a primary line of business may be agriculture, but the
business may declare potato growing as a specialty. The
division uses the North American Industry Classification System
(NAICS) codes to track this information. The NAICS code listing
that the DCCED has adopted for Alaska is approximately 16 pages
in length and help a business refine the type of services it is
offering.
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked whether it would be primary,
followed by a more explicit detail about the primary business.
MR. HABEGER answered yes, that is correct. In further response
to a question, he answered yes the explicit detail could be
considered a secondary business line.
3:34:20 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked how many people who have licenses
have multiple business licenses. He said he is trying to
determine the number of businesses that could collapse into one
business to help determine the potential revenue loss.
MR. HABEGER, based on the department's current understanding of
the intent in Version O, estimated that about 700 businesses may
fall under this category and hold a single business license. In
further response to a question, he clarified that the database
covers name, address, line of business. The division records
the date the business license is issued, the expiration date,
and the business name. He related 700 businesses have the same
business name but hold different licenses. In further response
to Chair Olson, he answered that currently about 60,000 business
licenses have been issued.
3:36:22 PM
CATHIE ROEMMICH, Chief Executive Director (CEO), Juneau Chamber
of Commerce (JCC), offered to read a letter she wrote to
Representative Costello, sponsor of HB 32. The Juneau of
Chamber of Commerce (JCC), representing over 400 Alaskan
businesses, would like to add its support for the passage of HB
32. As a chamber of commerce, the JCC sees firsthand the
frustrations and red tape that the very small businesses must go
through in order to survive, to stay in business, and to feed
their families. Only one in five small businesses survive, as
it is, and these hard working Alaskans know the value of the
dollar and are not asking for a handout, but just a fair shake.
MS. ROEMMICH understood that a business license is necessary for
every line of business operated by a business, even though
essentially it could be one business doing various seasonal jobs
to support their family as many Alaskans do. These extra fees
can be a huge burden and may in fact be one of the reasons so
many businesses fail.
MS. ROEMMICH said the proposed bill, HB 32, will require one fee
to be paid and allow a business to register all its lines of
business on one license and also allow for a business license to
be corrected or changed once, without charge. She stated this
is good for businesses in Alaska and supports their success.
She concluded that the Juneau Chamber of Commerce supports HB 32
and will encourage others to do so as well.
3:38:53 PM
PEGGY ANN MCCONNOCHIE, Owner, ACH Consulting; Real Estate
Broker, stated she is a working realtor. She said she is a real
estate broker and the owner of a company, ACH Consulting. Her
business performs both real estate consulting and real estate
education, but she holds two separate business licenses, in
addition to her professional broker's license. She reported she
holds one business license for her company and one for teaching
real estate courses. She also said the State of Alaska requires
her to hold two separate business licenses as the state views
her as having two separate lines of business. She viewed this
requirement to be burdensome and unreasonable. She emphasized
that her consulting and teaching are both centered in real
estate. For the state to require two separate licenses for what
she views as one line of business is onerous, she said. She
stated that small businesses have a tough enough time without
being made to pay unnecessary fees. She urged members to pass
HB 32.
3:40:16 PM
SHERRILEE BULLER, Owner, Upstream Mobile, stated that she opened
her business one and a half years ago doing trade shows and
conventions on behalf of Alaska Communications. She said she
also is an authorized agent for another business, the Satellite
Guy. She explained that her overhead for trade shows was very
little, but she unexpectedly had an opportunity to open a retail
store. She had mailed off her business license renewal to
continue her business license for two years, but one week later
she discovered her retail store opportunity. However, she had
decided she was no longer considered a sole proprietor, but
should be a single member limited liability corporation (LLC).
Unfortunately, the department could not make the change to the
LLC, even though the business license renewal period had not yet
begun. She said she contacted Representative Costello, who
introduced HB 32.
3:42:49 PM
MS. BULLER, speaking as a small business owner, said she finds
she must run multiple lines of business. While she works for
herself, she also represents the two aforementioned companies.
She expressed concern about how a new national
telecommunications provider moving into Alaska might affect her
business. She offered her belief that the national company will
likely hurt her major income earned through representing Alaska
Communications. She said this bill would be a help to her
establish a new line of business. She referred to statistics
she received from the U.S. Small Business Administration [Alaska
District Office] in February 2012. She said that 64 percent of
net new jobs come from small firms and 43 percent of all high-
tech employment is created by small businesses. On the flip
side, she learned from classes with the Alaska Small Business
Development Center (SBDC) that one in five new businesses have a
chance of surviving as entrepreneurs. She said, "I'm going to
be one of the ones. I'm gonna be it. I will be her." She
concluded by stating the more that the state partners together
with small businesses, the more it helps small businesses to
succeed.
CHAIR OLSON held public testimony open on HB 32.
[HB 32 was held over.]
3:45:36 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 3:45 p.m. to 3:49 p.m.
HB 71-AK REGIONAL ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
3:49:16 PM
CHAIR OLSON announced that the final order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 71, "An Act extending the termination date of the
Alaska regional economic assistance program; and providing for
an effective date."
3:49:31 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SHELLEY HUGHES, Alaska State Legislature, stated
HB 71 would extend the Alaska Regional Development Organization
(ARDOR). She explained this bill would extend the ARDOR program
from 2013 - 2018. She highlighted that the ARDOR program was
established in 1988, and will celebrate its silver jubilee this
year. The DCCED has been encouraged to formation of these
organizations. The department offers grants each year to
qualifying ARDOR organizations that provide technical assistance
to communities. Currently, 12 ARDOR organizations exist
statewide, at a cost of approximately $62,000 per year per
ARDOR. The ARDORs require one-third in matching funds,
including 20 percent from local sources, she stated. The ARDORS
have been successful in leveraging state funding by a three to
one ratio, with some ARDORS obtaining an eight to one funding
ratio. Since inception in 1988, the ARDORS have not been
audited. Thus she is currently requesting an audit be
performed, which will go to the Legislative Budget & Audit
Committee for consideration. She offered her belief that the
ARDORs are working well, but there may be some ways to improve
the organization's functions. ARDORs were formed, based on the
belief that a locally driven initiative, partnering with state
and other entities would be the best combination to figure out
good economic development ideas. Surely this would allow for
healthier communities, and for stronger local sustainable
economies, she also said. She related an audit could be
completed in about two years.
3:52:43 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked for the number of staff for the
program.
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES answered that the ARDOR program has one
coordinator although was not certain about additional staff
since each ARDOR is governed by its own board.
3:53:31 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON asked whether it would be appropriate to
change the sunset date to two years in the bill since it would
take two years to conduct the audit.
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES agreed.
CHAIR OLSON suggested an audit might take three years and he
offered to further discuss this with the LB&A committee.
3:54:24 PM
SHELLY WRIGHT, Executive Director, Southeast Conference, Alaska
Regional Development Organization (ARDOR), Department of
Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED), said the
Southeast Conference is the ARDOR for Southeast Alaska. She
asked to speak briefly about the advantages of ARDORs, noting
each region is different. She emphasized the value of having
ARDORs is the ability to partnership with the state in planning
processes and in collaboration efforts. She highlighted that
the state helps organize the ARDORs and assists them in getting
together periodically, which is very valuable for regional
development organizations statewide. She reported the funding
for ARDORs is unrestricted funding and most funding is received
through the grant process and is project-oriented funding. The
Southeast Conference receives grants and contracts on specific
projects for the program to keep the administrative costs low,
and allow the project funding to be spent on the specific
project.
3:56:22 PM
MS. WRIGHT related that Southeast Conference has been in
existence since 1958. She said she is privileged to serve in a
seasoned organization, noting the Southeast Conference is a
membership organization. She pointed out information in
members' packet that more fully describes the funding process,
how the money is leveraged, and lists ARDOR's top ten
priorities. She characterized the Southeast Conference as a
very active development organization that works with 23
incorporated and 21 unincorporated communities. The group meets
biannually to work on annual and five-year plans. She asked to
speak in favor of the five-year extension to the ARDOR program
since the additional time would provide security for planning
purposes for the ARDORs. She further asked members to consider
funding ardors to the maximum limit.
3:57:51 PM
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT asked her to speak to successes of the
Southeast Conference. She said she is most familiar with the
energy projects that the Southeast Conference has worked on, but
would like her to speak to the relationship with the DCCED.
MS. WRIGHT answered that the Southeast Conference has been able
to keep the Kake Petersburg Intertie project moving forward
despite the numerous roadblocks. She said the ARDOR works to
keep the environmental impact statement moving forward and to
keep organizations informed, including the U.S. Forest Service
and the DOT&PF. She related that Southeast Alaska Power Agency
(SEAPA) - the utility that will run the project - and Inside
Passage Electric Cooperative (IPEC) - the current utility - have
signed an agreement through facilitation of Southeast
Conference. She mentioned the energy coordinator has also
assisted Reynolds Creek Hydroelectric Project in moving forward,
with a project manager and business plan. She reported that the
Southeast Conference created the Integrated Resource Plan to
help Southeast Alaska communities develop their energy projects.
She stated the Southeast Conference is very interested in the
Alaska Marine Highway System (AMHS), and serves as a
communications conduit between the governor's office and the 180
Southeast Conference members. Additionally, the ARDORs work
with the state agencies, such as the DCCED, on regional
development plans and energy plans. The ARDORs also share
information between organizations. In fact, the Department of
Labor & Workforce Development also uses the ARDORs to provide
them with a link of what is happening in the regions. The
Alaska Workforce Investment Board (AWIB) also works with the
ARDORs to assess what is happening on the ground. She concluded
that the ARDORs support HB 32 and are happy to do so from the
ground up.
4:01:46 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked whether the executive director of
Southeast Conference is paid from federal or state funds.
MS. WRIGHT answered that state and federal funding provides
operational funding and covers expenses for staff, rent, and
utilities.
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER, after reviewing the fiscal note,
remarked that the funding comes from grants and benefits to the
ARDOR organization.
MS. WRIGHT answered yes.
4:02:36 PM
ANDY VARNER, Executive Director, Southwest Alaska Municipal
Conference, (SWAMC), Alaska Regional Development Organization
(ARDORS), Department of Commerce, Community & Economic
Development (DCCED), stated that the SWAMC serves three
subregions of Southwest Alaska: the Aleutian/Pribilofs, Bristol
Bay, and Kodiak. He said the SWAMC is a large ARDOR and
district about the size of Oregon. He stated that Ms. Wright
described the ARDORs quite well and the SWAMC uses its funding
similarly. The ARDOR grant makes up 20 percent of its operating
budget but it also receives federal funds as well as in-kind
support. Besides functioning as an ARDOR, the SWAMC has also
been designated as an economic development district by the
Federal Economic Development Administration. The Alaska
Workforce Investment Board (AWIB) and the ARDORs are figuring
out how to work best together to resolve workforce issues in
regions, noting that the ARDORs are willing partners. The SWAMC
has been working on an upcoming three day summit in Anchorage
and will also hold two board meetings this week. Aside from
economic development planning, SWAMC and other ARDORs have been
working on regional energy planning and signing contracts with
Alaska Energy Association (AEA). He recalled that several years
ago the Southeast Conference began working on energy planning
and signed a contract with AEA in the last year or so. He
reported that SWAMC currently has a contract with AEA on Bristol
Bay and Aleutian regional plans and has also been discussing the
Kodiak regional energy plan. Thus SWAMC may do three energy
plans. He reported that on Wednesday the SWAMC will hold an
energy workshop to discuss energy planning, priorities, and
projects. Further, the SWAMC conducted a Broadband
telecommunications strategy for the Southwest region that
addresses access and adoption issues to improve
telecommunications, infrastructure, and usage. He characterized
this effort as being a big economic linchpin for the regions.
In fact, the SWAMC will attend numerous statewide broadband task
force meetings to ensure the rural regions are covered.
4:07:00 PM
MR. VARNER emphasized that SWAMC concentrates on thinking big
and small, such that by thinking small he means helping mom and
pop businesses, tourism operators, and bed and breakfast (B&B)
operators bridge the digital divide. For example, SWAMC helps
bridge the digital divide by conducting workshops and by
providing support with the current Vista volunteer's expertise.
This effort helps small businesses and the local economy thrive;
however, this region is large that SWAMC must also think bigger
and focus more on the region as a whole. In doing so, SWAMC
focuses on the energy planning previously mentioned, as well as
on infrastructure planning. He pointed out two subregions are
served by the AMHS planning so SWAMC works to communicate the
regional needs to the DOT&PF. The SWAMC has also considered
transshipment in terms of the opening up of Arctic region, which
will be discussed at the economic development summit later this
week. Further, SWAMC has worked to help Southwest Alaskans
participate in fisheries, noting SWAMC's economist is also a
fisherman and researches the region's fisheries. Additionally,
SWAMC participates in the fishery maritime initiative the
University of Alaska is working on to enhance the fisheries
industry. To summarize, the SWAMC works with other ARDORS on
economic development issues, such as food and agriculture,
energy planning, or education programs. For example, SWAMC
partnered with the Anchorage Economic Development Corporation
(AEDC) to tour the Kodiak launch facility with a Lockheed Martin
representative. In conclusion, the ARDORs have been working
together to leverage expertise to move the economy forward and
partner on projects, especially given tighter funding, to move
the economy forward. He emphasized that the ARDOR funding is
extremely important to SWAMC since it "keeps the lights on."
The SWAMC has been an ARDOR for 25 years, which means this year
the ARDORs celebrate their Silver Jubilee. Finally, the SWAMC
has enjoyed working with DCED to make the program as good as it
can be.
4:10:32 PM
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT asked how much of the $807,539 in funding
SWAMC receives.
MR. VARNER answered $62,122. He explained the funds are evenly
divided among the 12 ARDORs.
4:10:55 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked for the nature of the energy
plans and whether the SWAMC is working on thermal,
hydroelectric, or wind power.
MR. VARNER answered the SWAMC has taken a comprehensive look at
available options and alternatives for communities. For
example, SWAMC traveled to Adak recently with an energy engineer
and two SWAMC staff to meet with different leaders to assess
options and help the community map out an energy future. He
pointed out the area has enormous hydroelectric potential, but
it has never been developed. One thing SWAMC can do is to help
the community and the region prioritize energy projects and
pathways to help the local energy situation, which should also
help the region's economy. In fact, the main reason SWAMC has
been involved is to create economic development opportunities.
Thus, SWAMC will help with resource assessment and to prioritize
projects and alternatives in order to map out an energy future
for the region.
4:12:29 PM
CHAIR OLSON stated that public testimony would be held open.
[HB 71 was held over.]
4:12:56 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at
4:12 p.m.