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03/31/2014 04:31 PM L&C


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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                         March 31, 2014                                                                                         
                           4:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kurt Olson, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Lora Reinbold, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Mike Chenault                                                                                                    
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron                                                                                                       
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 328                                                                                                              
"An Act  establishing the Board  of Massage  Therapists; relating                                                               
to  the licensing  of massage  therapists; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 328(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 308                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to the  exemptions under the  Alaska Securities                                                               
Act  and  to  securities  issued   by  Native  corporations;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 308 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 372                                                                                                              
"An Act  extending the  termination date  of the  emerging energy                                                               
technology fund and grant program."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 149                                                                                                              
"An Act  making firefighters employed  by the state  eligible for                                                               
the  presumption  of  coverage under  workers'  compensation  for                                                               
disability due to certain diseases."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 328                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: BOARD/LICENSING OF MASSAGE THERAPISTS                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) NAGEAK                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/21/14       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/21/14       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/05/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/05/14       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/10/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/10/14       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/10/14       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/21/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/21/14       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/28/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/28/14       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/28/14       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/31/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 308                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALASKA SECURITIES ACT EXEMPTIONS                                                                                   
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HOLMES                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/17/14       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/17/14       (H)       L&C                                                                                                    
03/31/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 372                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EXTEND EMERGING ENERGY TECHNOLOGY FUND                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): STATE AFFAIRS                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
03/10/14       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/10/14       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/31/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 149                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: WORKERS' COMP FOR STATE FIREFIGHTERS                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): LEDOUX                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
03/01/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/01/13       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
04/08/13       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/08/13       (H)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
03/31/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BENJAMIN NAGEAK                                                                                                  
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as the prime sponsor of HB 328.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MARY SCHLOSSER, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Benjamin Nageak                                                                                                  
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on behalf of the prime sponsor of                                                              
HB 328.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LINDSEY HOLMES                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as prime sponsor of HB 308.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN ANSELM, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Banking & Securities, Anchorage Office                                                                              
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED)                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 308.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOUG ISAACSON                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 372.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GABRIELLE LEDOUX                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as sponsor of HB 149.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:31:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KURT  OLSON called  the House  Labor and  Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   4:31  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Saddler, Reinbold, Josephson  and Olson were present  at the call                                                               
to order.  Representative Chenault  arrived as the meeting was in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          HB 328-BOARD/LICENSING OF MASSAGE THERAPISTS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:32:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 328,  "An Act establishing  the Board  of Massage                                                               
Therapists; relating to the licensing  of massage therapists; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BENJAMIN  NAGEAK, Alaska State  Legislature, asked                                                               
members to  pass HB 328.   He explained that a  massage therapist                                                               
brought the concept of  this bill to him and has  asked for a few                                                               
changes to the bill, which are included in an amendment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:33:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  explained the committee previously  held hearings on                                                               
HB 328 on 3/10/14 and 3/28/2014.   During the meeting on 3/28/14,                                                               
the committee adopted  Amendment 1, labeled "N.2"  and closed out                                                               
public testimony.   The bill  was held  over to allow  members to                                                               
consider another amendment "N.1" [not yet before the committee].                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:33:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD made  a motion  to adopt  Amendment [2],                                                               
labeled 28-LS1431\N.1, Martin, 3/21/14, which read as follows:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 24:                                                                                                           
          Delete "board"                                                                                                        
          Insert "department"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 27, following "a":                                                                                            
          Insert "(A)"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 28, following "school":                                                                                       
          Insert "or; (B) board-approved apprenticeship                                                                         
     program"                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 18:                                                                                                           
          Delete "board"                                                                                                        
          Insert "department"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 7, following line 31:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new paragraph to read:                                                                                       
               "(11)  person who has graduated from a                                                                           
        program or is a current recognized member of the                                                                        
     International Association of Structural Integrators;"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following paragraphs accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 8, line 1, following "only":                                                                                          
          Insert "light"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 8, lines 3 - 4:                                                                                                       
          Delete ", including the Feldenkrais method of                                                                         
       somatic education, the Trager approach to movement                                                                       
     education, and body-mind centering"                                                                                        
          Insert "or to affect the energy systems"                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 8, lines 5 - 8:                                                                                                       
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following paragraphs accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 8, following line 21:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new paragraph to read:                                                                                       
               "(3)  "department" means the Department of                                                                       
     Commerce, Community, and Economic Development;"                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following paragraphs accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 11, line 1:                                                                                                           
          Delete "AS 08.61.030(1) - (6) and (9)"                                                                                
          Insert "AS 08.61.030(1), (2), (4) - (6), and (9)"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:34:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY  SCHLOSSER, Staff,  Representative  Benjamin Nageak,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  explained that  Amendment 1 makes  some minor                                                               
changes.   First, it would  add language to the  requirements for                                                               
education,  [which  recognizes  a  board-approved  apprenticeship                                                               
program] in  exchange for the  500 hours required  for licensure.                                                               
On page  3, line 24, and  page 4, line 18,  the amendment changes                                                               
"board"  to  "department"  to allow  the  department  to  process                                                               
applications.    On page  8,  lines  1-8, the  language  combines                                                               
exemptions 11-12 to  define a category of  exempted practices not                                                               
naming each modality.   On page 11, line 1,  it removes paragraph                                                               
(3), with  the intent of allowing  the 500 hours of  education to                                                               
be  waived   during  the  transition  to   allow  these  physical                                                               
therapists to be grandfathered in for licensure.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON removed his objection to Amendment 2.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:36:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD moved to  adopt Conceptual Amendment 1 to                                                               
Amendment [2]  "N.1."  On page  1, lines 15-20, [Amendment  2] to                                                               
delete all material.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:36:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHLOSSER explained that Conceptual  Amendment 1 would remove                                                               
duplicate  language   previously  adopted  [in  Amendment   1  on                                                               
3/28/14].                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  removed his objection  to Conceptual Amendment  1 to                                                               
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[The committee  treated it as  though he had  previously objected                                                               
to Conceptual Amendment 1 for the purpose of discussion.]                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no further  objection,  Conceptual  Amendment 1  to                                                               
Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[The committee treated Amendment 2 as adopted.]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD moved  to report HB 328,  as amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying fiscal  notes.  There  being no objection,  the CSHB                                                               
328(L&C) was  reported from the  House Labor &  Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:38 p.m. to 4:39 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
            HB 308-ALASKA SECURITIES ACT EXEMPTIONS                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:39:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  announced that the  next order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 308, "An Act  relating to the exemptions under the                                                               
Alaska  Securities  Act  and  to   securities  issued  by  Native                                                               
corporations; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:40:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LINDSEY  HOLMES, Alaska State  Legislature, stated                                                               
that HB 308  will help smaller businesses start up  when they are                                                               
seeking  investment  by bringing  in  small  numbers of  in-state                                                               
investors.   Currently, these businesses  must perform  a variety                                                               
of  things to  issue their  stocks.   This  bill doesn't  include                                                               
stocks covered  under the federal  securities exchange,  but only                                                               
ones  that are  in the  state and  limited to  a small  number of                                                               
investors.    The Division  of  Banking  and Securities  collects                                                               
registration  forms about  companies prior  to their  stock being                                                               
issued  to small  numbers of  investors  - 25  or fewer  - or  to                                                               
reinvestors.   These companies are  required to either pay  a $50                                                               
filing  fee  or  a  $125 filing  fee  for  expedited  processing.                                                               
Currently the division  does not use the  information gathered on                                                               
these businesses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  said that  this bill  leaves in  place the                                                               
requirement   that   companies   must  provide   investors   with                                                               
information, retains  consumer protection  language in  place, as                                                               
well as retaining  all of the provisions that  allow companies to                                                               
sue for  damages.   The bill  does two other  things.   First, it                                                               
would increase the division's time  to review an "offer to repay"                                                               
or rescission offer from 2 to  10 days.  Second, it would clarify                                                               
that  securities issued  by Alaska  Native Claims  Settlement Act                                                               
(ANCSA) corporations, in compliance  with applicable federal law,                                                               
are exempt from registration.   Currently, state statutes did not                                                               
require  regional corporations  who issued  their original  stock                                                               
the transaction  to file  with the  state; however,  the statutes                                                               
were silent on later issuances of  stock.  The state must address                                                               
people born after  1971.  This bill clearly  indicates that later                                                               
issuances of  stock are also exempt  from securities registration                                                               
in the same manner as the original stock.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:44:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN  ANSELM,  Director,  Division   of  Banking  &  Securities,                                                               
Anchorage Office,  Department of  Commerce, Community  & Economic                                                               
Development (DCCED),  noted there  are three  substantive changes                                                               
contained  in HB  308.   First, it  would eliminate  the fee  and                                                               
filing  requirements  for  certain   small  or  limited  offering                                                               
exemptions,  including those  with 10  or fewer  investors, those                                                               
with  25  or  fewer  investors, and  existing  security  holders.                                                               
Second, the bill  increases the division's time to  review for an                                                               
offer to repay or rescission offer  from 2 to 10 days since those                                                               
filings are  more complicated than a  regular security securities                                                               
registration, and an  offer to repay usually means  a problem has                                                               
arisen.   Finally, the bill  clarifies that securities  issued by                                                               
ANCSA corporations,  in compliance  with applicable  federal law,                                                               
don't need to be separately registered under state law.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:46:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANSELM  stated that these  are often referred to  as "friends                                                               
and  family"  exemptions.   These  transactions  typically  occur                                                               
because someone  has an idea  for a  business or buys  a business                                                               
and invites  friends or family  to invest.  Typically,  there are                                                               
no sales persons or sales  commissions involved in these types of                                                               
transactions.    These transactions  are  usually  driven by  the                                                               
entrepreneur   so  there   isn't  any   public  solicitation   or                                                               
advertising; thus,  the risk  to the  public is  generally small.                                                               
Most  states  have  these  types  of  exemptions  and  these  are                                                               
typically self-executing exemptions in  other states, which means                                                               
that  no  fees  and  no  filing are  required,  but  all  of  the                                                               
requirements   include   consumer  protection   and   enforcement                                                               
protection provisions.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:47:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANSELM explained the next  statutory change is to the limited                                                               
offering exemption.  This applies  to securities that are offered                                                               
to existing  shareholders.   This exemption might  be used  by an                                                               
existing  business  that  is  moving  to the  next  level.    The                                                               
division  seldom receives  filings for  this exemption,  in fact,                                                               
the division received  one in 2013 and five in  2012.  Those that                                                               
are  filed are  generally  not necessary  since  there isn't  any                                                               
commission paid, which is the only  time an exemption needs to be                                                               
filed  under current  law.   Further, HB  308 eliminates  the $50                                                               
filing  fee  or $125  for  expedited  processing  fee.   It  also                                                               
eliminates form  preparation that will  affect an average  of 136                                                               
filings per  year.   This will reduce  the division's  revenue by                                                               
$6,800 per  year.  The  statutes retain investor  protection, the                                                               
division's  oversight and  the ability  for an  investor to  seek                                                               
rescission or  monetary damages.   Anyone using an  exemption has                                                               
the burden  of proving the  exemption, either to the  division or                                                               
in a  court of law.   Finally, the bill clarifies  that the ANCSA                                                               
securities issued after the initial  issuance in 1972 do not need                                                               
to  be  registered  with  the  state  so  long  as  they  are  in                                                               
compliance with federal law.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:48:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  asked  for   the  purpose  of  the  $50                                                               
processing fee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANSELM answered that the division would review the form.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT asked  for the average length  of time to                                                               
review the form.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANSELM  answered  that  it  would  vary,  depending  on  the                                                               
specific filing.   Sometimes it can take  considerable staff time                                                               
since people  have questions  about the  filing.   The division's                                                               
staff does spend  time with an applicant, she said.   In response                                                               
to  a question,  Ms. Anselm  related the  department's processing                                                               
time for the expedited filing is within two days of receipt.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:49:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked whether the  form can be used as a                                                               
means  to corroborate  information  in the  instance  in which  a                                                               
dispute might arise.   In other words, would  anything be legally                                                               
relevant that could help resolve the dispute.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANSELM  responded that the  only thing would be  to establish                                                               
that  the  party  filed  for an  exemption,  which  is  currently                                                               
required under the law.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:50:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON,  after first  determining  no  one else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 308.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD moved  to report HB 308  out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There being no objection,  HB 308 was reported  from the                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:51:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:51 p.m. to 4:53 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
         HB 372-EXTEND EMERGING ENERGY TECHNOLOGY FUND                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:53:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  announced that the  next order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 372,  "An Act extending  the termination  date of                                                               
the emerging energy technology fund and grant program."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:54:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DOUG  ISAACSON,   Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                               
sponsor,  stated that  since  the companion  bill  has been  read                                                               
across so he  would be brief.  This one  page bill is significant                                                               
in  that  it  extends  the  term date  for  the  emerging  energy                                                               
technology fund from January 1, 2015 to January 1, 2020.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[HB 372 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:55:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          HB 149-WORKERS' COMP FOR STATE FIREFIGHTERS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:56:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  149, "An Act making firefighters  employed by the                                                               
state  eligible for  the presumption  of coverage  under workers'                                                               
compensation for disability due to certain diseases."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:56:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GABRIELLE   LEDOUX,  Alaska   State  Legislature,                                                               
speaking as  prime sponsor,  characterized HB  149 as  a "fix-it"                                                               
bill.  It would correct an  oversight in AS 23.30.121, which gave                                                               
firefighters  presumptive  coverage  for various  illnesses  they                                                               
many have  contracted while working  as firefighters.   The prior                                                               
bill  inadvertently did  not  cover state-employed  firefighters.                                                               
This  bill  would  amend  AS   23.30.121  to  add  paragraph  (3)                                                               
pertaining  to  a  firefighter  employed  by  the  state.    This                                                               
provision would  cover about 70  people.  She offered  her belief                                                               
that these  brave men and  women should have the  same protection                                                               
as all other firefighters.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:57:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON recalled a  former legislator had a case                                                               
in which  a firefighter  died from chemical  exposure.   He asked                                                               
whether that  person was a  state firefighter.  He  further asked                                                               
if she was familiar with the case.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  said  she  did not  know  the  case,  but                                                               
basically the state firefighters are employed at the airport.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:58:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  referred to  new language in  section one                                                               
that  refers to  three definitions  of firefighters,  including a                                                               
municipal  volunteer,   a  person  registered  for   purposes  of                                                               
workers'  compensation, [and  a  person employed  by a  municipal                                                               
fire department].                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  answered that  the other  three categories                                                               
of firefighters  are currently  covered by  the statute,  but the                                                               
statute has been redrafted.   The effect of HB 149  is to add the                                                               
fourth group of people.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  offered  to   distribute  a  copy  of  AS                                                               
09.65.205 for members.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:00:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT  referred to the  fiscal notes.   He said                                                               
they are from  DOT&PF and the Department of Public  Safety at the                                                               
airports.  He noticed a fiscal  note in members' packets from the                                                               
University of Alaska (UA).   The fiscal analysis shows that there                                                               
were 36  claims by UAF firefighters  over the past five  years or                                                               
an average  of 7.2  claims per  year.  He  was curious  where the                                                               
firefighters were located.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  also noted that  the committee is awaiting  a fiscal                                                               
note from the risk manager as well.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX said she stands  corrected, that this would                                                               
apply to the airport and the university.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:02:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT wanted  to ensure  that state  employees                                                               
working as firefighters are protected.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  said  it  was   not  the  intent  of  the  enabling                                                               
legislation to exclude the state firefighters.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[HB 149 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at                                                                  
5:02 p.m.                                                                                                                       

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