Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/01/1993 03:00 PM L&C

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                    HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE                                   
                       STANDING COMMITTEE                                      
                          April 1, 1993                                        
                            3:00 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Rep. Bill Hudson, Chairman                                                   
  Rep. Joe Green, Vice Chairman                                                
  Rep. Brian Porter                                                            
  Rep. Eldon Mulder                                                            
  Rep. Bill Williams                                                           
  Rep. Jerry Mackie                                                            
  Rep. Joe Sitton                                                              
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  None                                                                         
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  HB 221:   "An Act relating to workers' compensation for                      
            volunteer ambulance attendants, police officers,                   
            and fire fighters; and providing for an effective                  
            date."                                                             
                                                                               
            PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE                                            
                                                                               
  HB 180:   "An Act relating to the residential housing                        
            inspection requirements of the Alaska Housing                      
            Finance Corporation."                                              
                                                                               
            PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE                                            
                                                                               
  *HB 222:  "An Act relating to landlords and tenants, to                      
            termination of tenancies and recovery of rental                    
            premises, to tenant responsibilities, to the civil                 
            remedies of forcible entry and detainer and                        
            nuisance abatement, and to the duties of peace                     
            officers to notify landlords of arrests involving                  
            certain illegal activity on rental premises."                      
                                                                               
            PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE                                            
                                                                               
  SB 83:    "An Act relating to an alcohol server education                    
            course."                                                           
                                                                               
            PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE                                            
                                                                               
  *HB 187:  "An Act authorizing the interception of private                    
            communications related to the commission of                        
            certain criminal offenses; making related                          
            amendments to statutes relating to eavesdropping                   
            and wiretapping; relating to the penalty for                       
            violation of statutes relating to eavesdropping                    
            and unauthorized interception, publication, or use                 
            of private communications; and providing for an                    
            effective date."                                                   
                                                                               
            PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE                                            
                                                                               
  *HB 14:   "An Act making an appropriation for capitalization                 
            of the BIDCO fund; and providing for an effective                  
            date."                                                             
                                                                               
            PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE                                            
                                                                               
  HB 237:   "An Act relating to marine pilot licensing and                     
            tariffs."                                                          
                                                                               
            HEARD AND HELD IN COMMITTEE                                        
                                                                               
  SB 64:    "An Act relating to civil liability for workplace                  
            safety inspections; and providing for an effective                 
            date."                                                             
                                                                               
            POSTPONED                                                          
                                                                               
  HB 241:   "An Act relating to workers' compensation; and                     
            providing for an effective date."                                  
                                                                               
            POSTPONED                                                          
                                                                               
  (* First public hearing.)                                                    
                                                                               
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  REP. BILL HUDSON                                                             
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  State Capitol                                                                
  Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182                                                    
  465-3744                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Prime Sponsor of HB 221                                 
                                                                               
  JOHN GEORGE                                                                  
  9515 Moraine Way                                                             
  Juneau, Alaska 99801                                                         
  789-0172                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 221                                        
                                                                               
  PATRICK T. EGGERS                                                            
  First Vice President                                                         
  Alaska State Fire Fighters Association                                       
  P.O. Box 240282                                                              
  Douglas, Alaska  99824                                                       
  364-3366                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 221                                        
                                                                               
  DAVID HARDING, Staff                                                         
  Rep. Eileen MacLean                                                          
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  State Capitol                                                                
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-4833                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Spoke on behalf of prime sponsor                        
                       of HB 180                                               
                                                                               
  FIRLE REDBURN                                                                
  National Bank of Alaska                                                      
  P.O. Box 1469                                                                
  Nome, Alaska  99762                                                          
  443-2223                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  ROBIN HARRISON                                                               
  National Bank of Alaska                                                      
  P.O. Box 53                                                                  
  Barrow, Alaska  99723                                                        
  852-6200                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  MYRON MCCUMBER                                                               
  P.O. Box 1388                                                                
  Barrow, Alaska  99723                                                        
  852-6588                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  JIM MCCORMACK                                                                
  Alaska Banking Association                                                   
  P.O. Box 100600                                                              
  Anchorage, Alaska  99510                                                     
  265-2878                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  ROBIN WARD                                                                   
  Building Association of Anchorage                                            
  P.O. Box 91443                                                               
  Anchorage, Alaska  99509                                                     
  345-6955                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  JOHN URE                                                                     
  P.O. Box 288                                                                 
  Naknek, Alaska  99633                                                        
  246-8298                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  TONY DOYLE                                                                   
  Alaska State Home Builder's Association                                      
  7984 Spur Highway                                                            
  Kenai, Alaska  99611                                                         
  283-3886                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  JIM STEVENS                                                                  
  P.O. Box 69                                                                  
  Barrow, Alaska  99723                                                        
  852-2185                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  JOE GRAHAM                                                                   
  P.O. Box 101157                                                              
  Anchorage, Alaska  99516                                                     
  562-4915                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  STEVE WISDOM                                                                 
  Kenai Peninsula Builder's Association                                        
  P.O. Box 4184                                                                
  Homer, Alaska  99603                                                         
  235-5607                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 180                                        
                                                                               
  REP. JEANNETTE JAMES                                                         
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  State Capitol                                                                
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-3743                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Prime Sponsor of HB 222                                 
                                                                               
  ANNETTE KOCH                                                                 
  P.O. Box 30                                                                  
  Ester, Alaska  99725                                                         
  479-0030                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  MYRNA SHEETS                                                                 
  1028 Evergreen St.                                                           
  Fairbanks, Alaska 99709                                                      
  456-8760                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  HAROLD HUME                                                                  
  4016 Birch Lane                                                              
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99709                                                     
  479-6724                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  BETTY JOHNSON                                                                
  1508 Haselton Rd.                                                            
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99709                                                     
  479-6860                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  SAM HELMS                                                                    
  1524 Stacia                                                                  
  Fairbanks, Alaska 99701                                                      
  452-3849                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  JEROME BYRD                                                                  
  2224 Eastland                                                                
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99701                                                     
  451-7375                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  JOHN TODD                                                                    
  13320 Crestview Dr.                                                          
  Anchorage, Alaska  99516                                                     
  345-2257                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  DOUGLAS ISAACSON                                                             
  State Director                                                               
  Credit Services                                                              
  2254 Crane Ct.                                                               
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99709                                                     
  455-6608                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  ALICE BREWER                                                                 
  1201 W. 45th                                                                 
  Anchorage, Alaska  99503                                                     
  563-6734                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  JOE GRAHAM                                                                   
  P.O. Box 101157                                                              
  Anchorage, Alaska  562-4915                                                  
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  CHARLES LIPPITT                                                              
  2203 McKinley Ave.                                                           
  Anchorage, Alaska  99517                                                     
  248-4770                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  HANS METZ                                                                    
  5305 E. 42nd                                                                 
  Anchorage, Alaska 99508                                                      
  333-6670                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  EUGENE DEVINE                                                                
  2115 Turnagain Parkway                                                       
  Anchorage, Alaska  99517                                                     
  248-0258                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  DIXIE DIXON                                                                  
  2600 Cordova St., #100                                                       
  Anchorage, Alaska  99503                                                     
  257-0127                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  RUTH PEGER                                                                   
  3873 Peger Rd.                                                               
  Fairbanks, Alaska  99709                                                     
  452-1334                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 222                                        
                                                                               
  JAMES E. FISHER                                                              
  Alaska Legal Services Corp.                                                  
  419 - 6th St.                                                                
  Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                        
  586-6425                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Opposed HB 222                                          
                                                                               
  RICHARD ILLGEN                                                               
  7061 Lowell Circle                                                           
  Anchorage, Alaska  99502                                                     
  243-6962                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Opposed HB 222                                          
                                                                               
  MARK BUTTERFIELD, Attorney                                                   
  Alaska Legal Services                                                        
  1016 W. 6th Ave., #200                                                       
  Anchorage, Alaska  99501                                                     
  272-9431                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Opposed HB 222                                          
                                                                               
  JOSH FINK, Staff                                                             
  Senator Tim Kelly                                                            
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  State Capitol                                                                
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-3822                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Sen. Kelly Prime Sponsor of SB 83                       
                                                                               
  MARGOT KNUTH                                                                 
  Assistant Attorney General                                                   
  Department of Law                                                            
  P.O. Box 110300                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                        
  465-3428                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 187                                        
                                                                               
  CAPTAIN GLENN FLOTHE                                                         
  Alaska State Troopers                                                        
  5700 E. Tudor Road                                                           
  Anchorage, Alaska  99507-1225                                                
  269-5655                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 187                                        
                                                                               
  REP. BETTYE DAVIS                                                            
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  State Capitol                                                                
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-3875                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Prime sponsor of HB 14                                  
                                                                               
  JOHN SIBERT, Executive Director                                              
  Alaska Science and Technology Foundation                                     
  550 - 7th St.                                                                
  Anchorage, Alaska  99501                                                     
  272-4337                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 14                                         
                                                                               
  JOE KYLE                                                                     
  Alaska Steamship Association                                                 
  116 Gold St.                                                                 
  Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                        
  586-3107                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Opposed HB 237                                          
                                                                               
  DAVID MILLEN                                                                 
  Alaska Marine Pilots                                                         
  Dutch Harbor, Alaska  99692                                                  
  258-5800                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 237                                        
                                                                               
  WILL ANDERSON                                                                
  Alaska Marine Pilots                                                         
  57920 Glacier View Dr.                                                       
  Homer, Alaska  99603                                                         
  235-5278                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 237                                        
                                                                               
  TERRY BENNETT                                                                
  Alaska Coastwise Pilots Association                                          
  P.O. Box 3046                                                                
  Ketchikan, Alaska  99901                                                     
  225-7245                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 237                                        
                                                                               
  KARL LUCK, Director                                                          
  Division of Occupational Licensing                                           
  Department of Commerce and Economic Development                              
  P.O. Box 110806                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska  99811-0806                                                   
  465-2538                                                                     
  Position Statement:  Supported HB 237                                        
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 221                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: WORKERS COMP:VOLUNTEER FIRE FIGHTERS, ETC                       
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) HUDSON,Grussendorf,Mulder                      
                                                                               
  TITLE: "An Act relating to workers' compensation for                         
  volunteer ambulance attendants, police officers, and fire                    
  fighters; and providing for an effective date."                              
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  03/12/93       619    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/12/93       619    (H)   CRA, LABOR & COMMERCE, FINANCE                   
  03/25/93              (H)   CRA AT 01:00 PM CAPITOL 124                      
  03/30/93              (H)   CRA AT 01:00 PM CAPITOL 124                      
  03/30/93              (H)   MINUTE(CRA)                                      
  03/30/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
  03/30/93              (H)   MINUTE(CRA)                                      
  03/31/93       872    (H)   CRA RPT  6DP                                     
  03/31/93       872    (H)   DP: TOOHEY, WILLIS, SANDERS,                     
                              DAVIES                                           
  03/31/93       872    (H)   DP: BUNDE, OLBERG                                
  03/31/93       872    (H)   -2 ZERO FISCAL NOTES(ADM,LABOR)                  
                              3/31/93                                          
  04/01/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 180                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: AHFC HOUSING INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS                            
  BILL VERSION: HB 180 AM                                                      
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) MACLEAN                                        
                                                                               
  TITLE: "An Act relating to the residential housing                           
  inspection requirements of the Alaska Housing Finance                        
  Corporation."                                                                
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  02/25/93       455    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  02/25/93       455    (H)   CRA, LABOR & COMMERCE                            
  03/11/93              (H)   CRA AT 01:00 PM CAPITOL 124                      
  03/11/93              (H)   MINUTE(CRA)                                      
  03/17/93              (H)   CRA AT 01:00 PM CAPITOL 124                      
  03/19/93              (H)   MINUTE(CRA)                                      
  03/22/93       730    (H)   CRA RPT  3DP  4NR                                
  03/22/93       730    (H)   DP: TOOHEY, OLBERG, WILLIAMS                     
  03/22/93       730    (H)   NR: SANDERS,BUNDE,DAVIES,WILLIS                  
  03/22/93       730    (H)   -ZERO FISCAL NOTE  (REV) 3/22/93                 
  03/31/93              (H)   MINUTE(ECO)                                      
  04/01/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 222                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: USE OF RENTED PROPERTY/LAW VIOLATIONS                           
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) JAMES,Porter                                   
                                                                               
  TITLE: "An Act relating to landlords and tenants, to                         
  termination of tenancies and recovery of rental premises, to                 
  tenant responsibilities, to the civil remedies of forcible                   
  entry and detainer and nuisance abatement, and to the duties                 
  of peace officers to notify landlords of arrests involving                   
  certain illegal activity on rental premises."                                
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  03/12/93       619    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/12/93       619    (H)   LABOR & COMMERCE, JUDICIARY                      
  04/01/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  SB  83                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: ALCOHOL SERVER EDUCATION COURSE                                 
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S) KELLY                                                 
                                                                               
  TITLE: "An Act relating to an alcohol server education                       
  course."                                                                     
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  02/01/93       204    (S)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  02/01/93       204    (S)   HES, L&C                                         
  02/19/93              (S)   HES AT 01:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                    
  02/19/93              (S)   MINUTE(HES)                                      
  02/22/93       437    (S)   HES RPT  3DP 2NR                                 
  02/22/93       437    (S)   ZERO FISCAL NOTE (REV)                           
  02/22/93       437    (S)   L&C REFERRAL WAIVED                              
  02/23/93              (S)   RLS AT 01:45 AM FAHRENKAMP 203                   
  02/23/93              (S)   MINUTE(RLS)                                      
  03/15/93       801    (S)   RULES RPT   2 CAL 1NR  3/15/93                   
  03/15/93       809    (S)   READ THE SECOND TIME                             
  03/15/93       809    (S)   ADVANCED TO THIRD READING UNAN                   
                              CONSENT                                          
  03/15/93       809    (S)   READ THE THIRD TIME  SB 83                       
  03/15/93       809    (S)   PASSED Y18 N1 E1                                 
  03/15/93       809    (S)   ADAMS  NOTICE OF RECONSIDERATN                   
  03/16/93       831    (S)   RECONSIDERATION NOT TAKEN UP                     
  03/16/93       831    (S)   TRANSMITTED TO (H)                               
  03/17/93       674    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/17/93       674    (H)   LABOR & COMMERCE                                 
  04/01/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 187                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: INTERCEPTION OF PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS                          
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                 
                                                                               
  TITLE: "An Act authorizing the interception of private                       
  communications related to the commission of certain criminal                 
  offenses; making related amendments to statutes relating to                  
  eavesdropping and wiretapping; relating to the penalty for                   
  violation of statutes relating to eavesdropping and                          
  unauthorized interception, publication, or use of private                    
  communications; and providing for an effective                               
  date."                                                                       
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  03/01/93       488    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/01/93       488    (H)   LABOR & COMMERCE, JUDICIARY,                     
                              FINANCE                                          
  03/01/93       488    (H)   -3 ZERO FNS(ADM,DPS,LAW) 3/1/93                  
  03/01/93       488    (H)   -INDETERMINATE FISCAL NOTE (ADM)                 
                              3/1/93                                           
  03/01/93       488    (H)   GOVERNOR'S TRANSMITTAL LETTER                    
  04/01/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB  14                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: APPROP:  BIDCO FUND                                             
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) B.DAVIS,Brown,Nordlund                         
                                                                               
  TITLE: "An Act making an appropriation for capitalization of                 
  the BIDCO fund; and providing for an effective date."                        
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  01/04/93        28    (H)   PREFILE RELEASED                                 
  01/11/93        28    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/11/93        28    (H)   LABOR & COMMERCE, STATE AFFAIRS,                 
                              FINANCE                                          
  01/27/93       168    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): NORDLUND                           
  03/31/93              (H)   MINUTE(ECO)                                      
  03/31/93              (H)   MINUTE(ECO)                                      
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 237                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: MARINE PILOT LICENSING AND TARIFFS                              
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) HUDSON,Phillips,Brice,Sitton,                  
  Sanders                                                                      
                                                                               
  TITLE: "An Act relating to marine pilot licensing and                        
  tariffs."                                                                    
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  03/19/93       707    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/19/93       707    (H)   L&C, TRANSPORTATION, STA AFF,                    
                              FINANCE                                          
  03/30/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
  04/01/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
  04/01/93              (H)   TRA AT 05:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
  BILL:  SB  64                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: IMMUNITY FOR SAFETY INSPECTIONS                                 
  BILL VERSION: CSSB 64(JUD)(EFD FLD)                                          
  SPONSOR(S): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                 
                                                                               
  TITLE: "An Act relating to civil liability for workplace                     
  safety inspections."                                                         
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  01/22/93       137    (S)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/22/93       137    (S)   LABOR & COMMERCE, JUDICIARY                      
  02/04/93              (S)   L&C AT 01:30 PM BELTZ ROOM 211                   
  02/04/93              (S)   MINUTE(L&C)                                      
  02/10/93       313    (S)   L&C RPT   3DP 2NR                                
  02/10/93       313    (S)   ZERO FISCAL NOTE (DCED)                          
  02/19/93              (S)   JUD AT 01:30 PM BELTZ ROOM 211                   
  02/19/93              (S)   MINUTE(JUD)                                      
  02/22/93              (S)   JUD AT 01:30 PM BELTZ ROOM 211                   
  02/22/93              (S)   MINUTE(JUD)                                      
  02/24/93       461    (S)   JUD RPT CS 2DP 1NR 1DNP 1AM                      
                              SAME TITLE                                       
  02/24/93       461    (S)   PREVIOUS ZERO FN APPLIES (DCED)                  
  03/03/93              (S)   RLS AT 10:45 AM FAHRENKAMP 203                   
  03/03/93              (S)   MINUTE(RLS)                                      
  03/05/93       614    (S)   RULES RPT  3CAL 1DNP W/O AM                      
                              3/5/93                                           
  03/05/93       623    (S)   READ THE SECOND TIME                             
  03/05/93       623    (S)   JUD  CS ADOPTED UNAN CONSENT                     
  03/05/93       625    (S)   AM NO  1     FAILED  Y7 N11 E2                   
  03/05/93       626    (S)   AM NO  2     FAILED  Y8 N10 E2                   
  03/05/93       627    (S)   AM NO  3     FAILED  Y7 N11 E2                   
  03/05/93       629    (S)   AM NO  4     FAILED  Y8 N10 E2                   
  03/05/93       630    (S)   AM NO  5     FAILED  Y8 N10 E2                   
  03/05/93       630    (S)   AM NO  6     FAILED  Y7 N11 E2                   
  03/05/93       631    (S)   ADVANCED TO THIRD READING UNAN                   
                              CONSENT                                          
  03/05/93       631    (S)   PASSED Y11 N7 E2                                 
  03/05/93       632    (S)   EFFECTIVE DATE FAILED Y11 N7 E2                  
  03/05/93       632    (S)   Duncan  NOTICE OF RECONSIDERATN                  
  03/08/93       659    (S)   RECON TAKEN UP-IN THIRD READING                  
  03/08/93       659    (S)   PLACE AT BOTTOM OF CAL PASSED                    
                              Y11 N8 E1                                        
  03/08/93       673    (S)   RETURN TO SECOND FOR AM 1                        
                              UNAN CONSENT                                     
  03/08/93       674    (S)   AM NO  7     FAILED  Y8 N11 E1                   
  03/08/93       674    (S)   AUTOMATICALLY IN THIRD READING                   
  03/08/93       674    (S)   PASSED ON RECONSIDERATION Y11                    
                              N8 E1                                            
  03/08/93       675    (S)   EFFECTIVE DATE FAILED Y12 N7 E1                  
  03/08/93       677    (S)   TRANSMITTED TO (H)                               
  03/10/93       582    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/10/93       582    (H)   LABOR & COMMERCE, JUDICIARY                      
  03/30/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
  04/01/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 241                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: WORKERS COMP:REQD HEALTH BEN;INSPECTIONS                        
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) MULDER                                         
                                                                               
  TITLE: "An Act relating to workers' compensation; and                        
  providing for an effective date."                                            
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  03/19/93       708    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  03/19/93       709    (H)   LABOR & COMMERCE, JUDICIARY                      
  03/30/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
  04/01/93              (H)   L&C AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-31, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON called the meeting to order, noted members                   
  present, and announced the day's agenda, explaining that the                 
  meeting was being teleconferenced.                                           
  HB 221 WORKERS COMP:VOLUNTEER FIRE FIGHTERS, ETC                             
                                                                               
  Number 005                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN BILL HUDSON, PRIME SPONSOR of HB 221, gave the                      
  following sponsor statement:                                                 
                                                                               
  "House Bill 221 was introduced to clarify Workers'                           
  Compensation statutes that have been the cause of much                       
  confusion or misinterpretation, particularly with regard to                  
  benefits for volunteers.                                                     
                                                                               
  "Workers compensation benefits are intended, subject to                      
  minimum and maximum limits, to replace the lost wages of                     
  injured workers.  Section 1 of HB 221 recognizes that                        
  volunteers should receive wage replacement based on the                      
  actual wages lost or the comparable wage they would receive                  
  were they paid employees rather than volunteers.  Current                    
  law limits wage loss benefits for volunteer fire fighters,                   
  for example, who may have high earning capacity in their                     
  regular employment, to the benefits based on the wage paid a                 
  carrier fire fighter.  House Bill 221 corrects the                           
  inequities in benefit calculations for volunteer ambulance                   
  attendants, police officers and fire fighters by calculating                 
  compensation based on the higher wage earned.                                
                                                                               
  "Section 2 of HB 221 is to clarify the original intent of AS                 
  23.30.243, which is to extend coverage for volunteer fire                    
  fighters.  In the past year, compensation benefits for                       
  volunteer fire fighters, while engaged in fire department                    
  activities other than responding to emergencies, has been                    
  questioned.  Since `employees' are covered for injuries                      
  arising out of and in the course of employment, volunteer                    
  fire fighters are similarly covered.  Unfortunately, AS                      
  23.30.243 has been misinterpreted to limit coverage only to                  
  those instances where the volunteer was responding to an                     
  emergency.  This section was originally intended to extend                   
  coverage, not limit it.                                                      
                                                                               
  "Therefore, in order to restore the original intent of AS                    
  23.30.243, and to clarify once and for all that volunteers                   
  are employees and are covered as any other employee for the                  
  purposes of workers' compensation, Section 2 of HB 221                       
  amends AS 23.30 by adding a new section that defines                         
  volunteer ambulance attendants, police officers and fire                     
  fighters as `employees.'                                                     
                                                                               
  "Section 3 repeals AS 23.30.092.  This statute has been                      
  interpreted to mean that a municipality `may' provide                        
  workers' compensation coverage for volunteers.  Conversely,                  
  it may be incorrectly interpreted to mean that a                             
  municipality may elect not to provide coverage.  In reality,                 
  this section provides that an alternative policy may                         
  substitute for a workers' compensation policy so long as the                 
  benefits are equal or better than a statutory workers'                       
  compensation policy.  However, this section has done nothing                 
  but cause confusion, and I believe repealing it will clarify                 
  that all volunteers who meet the definition in AS 23.30 must                 
  be covered by workers' compensation."                                        
                                                                               
  Number 190                                                                   
                                                                               
  JOHN GEORGE, representing the ALASKA STATE FIRE FIGHTERS                     
  ASSOCIATION, testified in support of HB 221.  Mr. George                     
  stated that volunteer firefighters and the station they work                 
  at have to be registered with the Department of Public                       
  Safety.  Secondly, the municipality where the station is                     
  located picks up the workers' compensation.  He stated that                  
  HB 221 just clarifies the law regarding benefits for                         
  volunteer fire fighters.                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 238                                                                   
                                                                               
  PATRICK EGGERS, FIRST VICE PRESIDENT, ALASKA STATE FIRE                      
  FIGHTERS ASSOCIATION, spoke in favor of HB 221 and echoed                    
  Mr. George's statements.                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 250                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MACKIE moved for passage of HB 221 with individual                      
  recommendations.                                                             
                                                                               
  REP. PORTER objected for clarification on the maximum amount                 
  of money a volunteer would be entitled to under the bill.                    
                                                                               
  Number 329                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. SITTON pointed out that the schedule was already                        
  established in law.                                                          
                                                                               
  REP. PORTER removed his objection.                                           
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON announced that HB 221 passed out of                          
  committee with individual recommendations and a zero fiscal                  
  note.                                                                        
  HB 180 Alaska Housing Finance Corporation.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 357                                                                   
                                                                               
  DAVID HARDING, STAFF, REP. EILEEN MACLEAN, PRIME SPONSOR OF                  
  HB 180, read a sponsor statement on Rep. MacLean's behalf.                   
  Mr. Harding stated that HB 180 responds to an unintended                     
  consequence of last year's merger of Department of Community                 
  and Regional Affairs housing loans into Alaska Housing                       
  Finance Corporation (AHFC).  He noted that AHFC's building                   
  inspection requirements were designed for residential                        
  construction within municipalities or along the road system.                 
  Their application to remote settings was not anticipated and                 
  could result in thousands of additional dollars added to the                 
  cost of a new home.  This works against the development of                   
  new housing in remote areas where it is most needed.                         
                                                                               
  MR. HARDING added that HB 180 does not eliminate the                         
  requirement for multiple building inspections during                         
  construction.  Instead, it allows AHFC to use some                           
  flexibility in applying the existing criteria in remote                      
  settings.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 405                                                                   
                                                                               
  FIRLE REDBURN, NATIONAL BANK OF ALASKA, testified from Nome                  
  in support of HB 180, except for the sunset clause.                          
                                                                               
  Number 418                                                                   
                                                                               
  ROBIN HARRISON, NATIONAL BANK OF ALASKA, testified from                      
  Barrow in support of HB 180, except for the sunset clause.                   
  Ms. Harrison stated she believes that the sunset clause                      
  serves no purpose at this time, and if a future legislature                  
  wanted to revisit the law, they could do so through another                  
  bill.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 441                                                                   
                                                                               
  MYRON MCCUMBER testified from Barrow in support of HB 180                    
  and echoed the above testimony.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 445                                                                   
                                                                               
  JIM MCCORMACK, ALASKA BANKING ASSOCIATION, testified from                    
  Anchorage in support of HB 180, except for the sunset                        
  clause.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 450                                                                   
                                                                               
  ROBIN WARD, BUILDING ASSOCIATION OF ANCHORAGE, testified                     
  from Anchorage in support of HB 180 without the sunset                       
  clause.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 455                                                                   
                                                                               
  JOHN URE testified from Anchorage in support of HB 180                       
  without the sunset clause.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 536                                                                   
                                                                               
  TONY DOYLE, ALASKA STATE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION,                          
  testified from Anchorage in support of HB 180 and stated                     
  that he suggested the sunset clause.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 540                                                                   
                                                                               
  JIM STEVENS testified from Barrow in support of HB 180.                      
                                                                               
  Number 572                                                                   
                                                                               
  STEVE WISDOM, KENAI PENINSULA BUILDERS ASSOCIATION,                          
  testified from Homer in support of HB 180.                                   
                                                                               
  REP. SITTON moved for passage of HB 180 with individual                      
  recommendations and fiscal note.  No objections were heard;                  
  it was so ordered.                                                           
  HB 222 USE OF RENTED PROPERTY/LAW VIOLATIONS                                 
  TAPE 93-31, SIDE B                                                           
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. JEANNETTE JAMES, PRIME SPONSOR of HB 222, stated that                   
  HB 222 was introduced in response to a concern that current                  
  landlord-tenant laws were weighted in favor of protecting                    
  abusive tenants.                                                             
                                                                               
  REP. JAMES added that HB 222 had three principal purposes:                   
                                                                               
  1) amends the forcible entry and detainer statutes;                          
                                                                               
  2) makes the tenant's responsibility to maintain the                         
  dwelling unit more stringent; and                                            
                                                                               
  3) amends the nuisance abatement statutes.                                   
                                                                               
  REP. JAMES concluded that HB 222 would provide much needed                   
  protection for landlords as well as for responsible tenants                  
  from the damage caused by abusive tenants.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 137                                                                   
                                                                               
  JAMES FISHER, ALASKA LEGAL SERVICES CORP., testified against                 
  HB 222.  Mr. Fisher's comments follow:                                       
                                                                               
  "This plea is made as, and from, the viewpoint of an                         
  attorney with 20 years experience in private practice of                     
  law, and who has sympathy for the conflicting pressure(s)                    
  upon legislators.  In those 20 years I represented only                      
  landlords, and from that perspective comes this amicus                       
  comment on HB 222.                                                           
                                                                               
  "HB 222's legislative history appears based on:                              
                                                                               
       a) anecdotal experience, which may overlook areas of                    
       unintended impact which leads to the next assumption;                   
                                                                               
       b) that the proposed HB 222 will protect an                             
       unsuspecting landlord against those to be called                        
       "outlaw" tenants.                                                       
                                                                               
  "First, the outlaw tenant probably causes most, if not all,                  
  of the anecdotes related as a reason for HB 222.  Such a                     
  person, or persons, will evade a rental contract regardless                  
  of legislation existing or proposed.  To suggest a statute                   
  can stop such behavior is like having confidence murder will                 
  be deterred by laws prohibiting killing people.                              
                                                                               
  "The best way to avoid the outlaw tenant is scrupulous                       
  attention to existing law; i.e., get deposits, check                         
  references closely, if rent is late immediately advise that                  
  such performance will not be tolerated, etc.                                 
                                                                               
  "What should really worry legislators is the problem of                      
  raising constituent expectations that HB 222, or other                       
  changes to existing law, will solve the `outlaw' tenant                      
  problem.  When the proposed law doesn't work, what next?"                    
                                                                               
  ANNETTE COOK testified from Fairbanks in support of HB 222.                  
  Ms. Cook stated that this bill would balance the rights                      
  between landlords and tenants.                                               
                                                                               
  MYRNA SHEETS testified from Fairbanks in support of HB 222.                  
  Ms. Sheets said the current law is unfair to landlord's.                     
  Ms. Sheets stated that HB 222 would not hurt good tenants at                 
  all, but would protect landlord's from the "outlaw" tenants.                 
                                                                               
  Number 202                                                                   
                                                                               
  HAROLD HUME, a LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER, stated that HB
  222 would help legal costs and help get "outlaw" tenants out                 
  before they caused damage.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 223                                                                   
                                                                               
  BETTY JOHNSON testified in support of HB 222 and echoed the                  
  above comments.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 234                                                                   
                                                                               
  SAM HELMS testified from Anchorage in support of HB 222 and                  
  pointed out that he has had over $10,000.00 worth of damage                  
  done by the so called "outlaw" tenants.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 254                                                                   
                                                                               
  JEROME BYRD testified from Anchorage in support of HB 222.                   
  Mr. Byrd stated that he has personal experience with the                     
  outlaw tenant.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 262                                                                   
                                                                               
  DOUGLAS ISAACSON, STATE DIRECTOR for CREDIT SERVICES.  Mr.                   
  Isaacson stated that his service exists to help landlords                    
  avoid the outlaw tenant.  Mr. Isaacson supports HB 222.                      
                                                                               
  Number 299                                                                   
                                                                               
  ALICE BREWER testified from Anchorage in support of HB 222.                  
  Ms. Brewer reiterated the above testimony.                                   
                                                                               
  JOE GRAHAM testified from Anchorage in support of HB 222.                    
  Mr. Graham dittoed the above supportive testimony.                           
                                                                               
  CHARLES LIPPITT testified from Anchorage in support of HB
  222.  Mr. Lippitt stated that screening of tenants does not                  
  always work.  He said HB 222 is needed to get the bad apples                 
  out sooner.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 350                                                                   
                                                                               
  JOHN TODD testified from Anchorage in support of HB 222.                     
  Mr. Todd stated that he is a landlord who checks references,                 
  credit reports, gets a deposit and has a complete                            
  application process for potential tenants and still has some                 
  slip through the cracks.  He said HB 222 would be one way                    
  for landlords to protect themselves from a bad tenant.                       
                                                                               
  HANS METZ testified from Anchorage in support of HB 222.                     
  Mr. Metz noted that HB 222 would screen out the professional                 
  tenants who have no intention of paying the rent and know                    
  how to play the game of protecting themselves under the                      
  current law.                                                                 
                                                                               
  EUGENE DEVINE testified from Anchorage in support of HB 222.                 
  Mr. Divine dittoed the testimony above.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 396                                                                   
                                                                               
  DIXIE DIXON testified from Anchorage in support of HB 222.                   
  Ms. Dixon pointed out that police cannot help with landlord                  
  tenant problems because they are understaffed.  Ms. Dixon                    
  also pointed out that adult guardians of teenagers have to                   
  be responsible for them and their actions.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 440                                                                   
                                                                               
  RUTH PEGER testified from Anchorage in support of HB 222.                    
  Ms. Peger stated that the law is too protective of the                       
  tenant and provides very little relief for the landlord.                     
                                                                               
  Number 457                                                                   
                                                                               
  RICHARD ILLGEN, an ATTORNEY representing both landlords and                  
  tenants, stated he made the following observations on the                    
  bill:  there will always be bad tenants; HB 222 would hurt                   
  small commercial business, as the outside large entities                     
  would want to rent to the more established business's                        
  instead of newer small Alaskan enterprises; there would be                   
  more lawsuits against landlords to tie up the court system;                  
  HB 222 does more harm than good; and renters that work on                    
  the slope and are honestly unaware of a conflict could be                    
  thrown out before they have a chance to solve the problem.                   
  Mr. Illgen suggested that the committee take another look at                 
  the bill.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 509                                                                   
                                                                               
  MARK BUTTERFIELD, ATTORNEY, LEGAL SERVICES CORPORATIONS,                     
  spoke against HB 222 for two reasons:  1) HB 222 is unfair;                  
  it takes what was a good balance between landlords and                       
  tenants under current law and gives the landlord all the                     
  power, and 2) there is such a thing as a bad landlord and                    
  this bill gives no balance for the tenant in that situation.                 
                                                                               
  Number 578                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. SITTON moved HB 222 with individual recommendations and                 
  two fiscal notes.                                                            
                                                                               
  No objections were noted; it was so ordered.                                 
  SB 83 ALCOHOL SERVER EDUCATION COURSE                                        
                                                                               
  Number 586                                                                   
                                                                               
  JOSH FINK, STAFF, SENATOR TIM KELLY, PRIME SPONSOR OF SB 83,                 
  read the sponsor statement.  Mr. Fink stated that this bill                  
  would require alcohol servers to take an alcohol server                      
  education course approved by the Alcohol Beverage Control                    
  Board.  Mr. Fink said this bill was widely supported.                        
                                                                               
  Number 596                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MACKIE commented that he supported SB 83 and he thought                 
  members of the alcohol industry would also.  Rep. Mackie                     
  further stated that it was his hope that the program be                      
  provided in the Bush communities and not require those areas                 
  to have to travel to get the training required.                              
                                                                               
  Number 613                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MULDER moved for passage of SB 83 with individual                       
  recommendations.  No objections were noted; it was so                        
  ordered.                                                                     
  HB 187 INTERCEPTION OF PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS                                
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-32, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 050                                                                   
                                                                               
  MARGOT KNUTH, ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY, DEPARTMENT OF                     
  LAW, spoke in support of the bill.  She said HB 187 would                    
  authorize the interception of private communications by                      
  state law enforcement officers to investigate the serious                    
  crimes of murder, kidnapping, and specified drug offenses.                   
  According to Ms. Knuth, federal law allows states to enact                   
  wiretapping laws only if, like this bill, they are at least                  
  as restrictive and protective of private communications as                   
  federal law.  (further analysis by the Department of Law is                  
  on file in the committee office)                                             
                                                                               
  Number 175                                                                   
                                                                               
  CAPTAIN GLENN FLOTHE, ALASKA STATE TROOPERS, testified in                    
  support of HB 187.  Captain Flothe stated that this bill                     
  would be another tool to be used in the most serious of                      
  crimes.  Captain Flothe added that he supported the comments                 
  of Ms. Knuth.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 218                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MULDER moved for passage of HB 187 with individual                      
  recommendations and three fiscal notes.                                      
                                                                               
  No objections were heard; it was so ordered.                                 
  HB 14 APPROP:  BIDCO FUND                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 236                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BETTYE DAVIS, PRIME SPONSOR of HB 14, stated that last                  
  year she sponsored legislation creating Business Development                 
  Industrial Corporations (BIDCOs) in Alaska.  She said BIDCOs                 
  provide financing, management, and technical assistance to                   
  small to medium sized business, with an emphasis on minority                 
  and rural businesses.  They address a gap for companies with                 
  financing needs that are deemed too risky for traditional                    
  bank lending, but do not provide the potential for high                      
  rates of return sought by traditional venture funds.                         
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIS stated that HB 14 appropriates $10 million from                   
  the earnings reserve of the Alaska Science and Technology                    
  endowment to initially fund the BIDCO fund.                                  
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIS noted that in an effort to encourage capital                      
  sources to invest and lend money to BIDCOs, the program will                 
  be licensed and regulated by the Department of Commerce.                     
  This system is designed to prevent fraud, conflict of                        
  interest and mismanagement, and to promote competent                         
  management, accurate record keeping and appropriate                          
  communication with shareholders.  In addition, the Alaska                    
  Science and Technology program will help assist BIDCOs in                    
  raising substantial private investment.                                      
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIS said BIDCOs are one of the best opportunities for                 
  growth and expansions for small, rural, and minority                         
  businesses in Alaska.                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 330                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MACKIE moved to bring the CS of HB 14 before the                        
  committee.                                                                   
                                                                               
  There being no objections, it was so ordered.                                
                                                                               
  Number 340                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MACKIE asked if the legislature had the authority to                    
  appropriate money in future years.                                           
                                                                               
  REP. DAVIS answered that she would rather see the program be                 
  funded by the end of this legislature, but it was the                        
  Science and Technology Foundation's suggestion to spread it                  
  out over three years.  Rep. Davis stated she did not know if                 
  the legislature had the authority to spread the funding out                  
  over a three year period.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 368                                                                   
                                                                               
  JOHN SIBERT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA SCIENCE AND                          
  TECHNOLOGY FOUNDATION, testified in support of HB 14 and                     
  said he would like to see the funding of HB 14 carried out                   
  without crippling the grant program.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 419                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON noted that the committee substitute allows                   
  for a different allocation schedule than the original bill                   
  and wondered if Mr. Sibert could comment.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 423                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. SIBERT suggested that $3 million in FY 94, $3 million in                 
  FY 95, and $4 million in FY 96, per the fiscal note sent                     
  down on April 6, 1993, would be the best scenario for the                    
  foundation.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 485                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. MACKIE suggested that the Finance Committee should look                 
  at the funding in accordance with the budgeting plan they                    
  have for the next two years.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 490                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON stated that HB 14 should be passed out of                    
  the Labor and Commerce Committee to Finance with the comment                 
  that the intent that a total appropriation of $10 million be                 
  appropriated over a three year period of time according to                   
  the revised fiscal note provided by the Alaska Science and                   
  Technology Foundation.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 502                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. PORTER moved for passage of HB 14 with the                              
  recommendation of the committee that it be redrafted to                      
  comply with the revised fiscal note and with the revised                     
  fiscal note.                                                                 
                                                                               
  No objections were heard; it was so ordered.                                 
                                                                               
  HB 237 MARINE PILOT LICENSING AND TARIFFS                                    
                                                                               
  Number 534                                                                   
                                                                               
  JOE KYLE, ALASKA STEAMSHIP ASSOCIATION, made the following                   
  points:                                                                      
                                                                               
       - The industry supported the 1991 35% increase in                       
  tariffs.                                                                     
                                                                               
       - The industry supports the concept of two or more                      
  healthy pilot organizations.                                                 
                                                                               
       - The industry opposes efforts to place limits on the                   
  number of licensed pilots.                                                   
                                                                               
       - The Alaska Steamship Association believes that the                    
  present rigid entry level requirements is in itself enough                   
  to limit the number of licenses issued.                                      
                                                                               
       - Once the license is issued, there are strict follow-                  
  up requirements, which has a downward effect on the number                   
  of licensed pilots.                                                          
                                                                               
       - Regardless of the intent of limiting pilots, its                      
  effect is to increase the income of those licensed.                          
                                                                               
       - The industry is proud of what they pay pilots.                        
                                                                               
       - The Alaska Steamship Association supports removing                    
  the tariff setting process from the Board of Marine Pilots,                  
  but they are not prepared at this time to support the move                   
  to have the APUC (Alaska Public Utilities Commission) take                   
  over these functions until more information is known.                        
                                                                               
       - The Alaska Steamship Association has a philosophical                  
  problem with aspects of a fixed tariff versus a maximum                      
  tariff.  The current tariff process where industry and                       
  pilots negotiate is fine.                                                    
                                                                               
       - Alaska Steamship is concerned about the language in                   
  the bill which purports to make equipment a part of the                      
  tariff.  Equipment is not currently in the tariff, and                       
  industry is concerned that this would open the door for                      
  pilots to get into other businesses in the marine                            
  environment.                                                                 
                                                                               
       - Alaska Steamship also objects to the language in the                  
  bill that calls for inflation proofing.  A pilots income is                  
  already high and at those levels there is no need for                        
  inflation proofing.                                                          
                                                                               
       - Alaska Steamship intends to submit an amendment to                    
  the bill in the near future.                                                 
                                                                               
  (Please note that there is no TAPE 93-32, SIDE B)                            
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-33, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 005                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON commented that inflation proofing is common                  
  when establishing tariffs.  Chairman Hudson requested that                   
  Mr. Kyle provide more information regarding equipment in the                 
  bill to his staff for further work.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 015                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON emphasized that what is considered a region                  
  in the Lower 48 usually refers to a major port.  But in                      
  Alaska it can be several small ports over a vast segment of                  
  coastline.  Chairman Hudson pointed out that it is his                       
  belief that regional knowledge is very important in Alaska.                  
                                                                               
  Number 030                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON stated it was not his intention to halt a                    
  pilot moving between regions, but he wanted safety to be the                 
  first priority.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 050                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. KYLE added that his group purposely did not address the                  
  cross-regionalization in HB 237.                                             
                                                                               
  Number 065                                                                   
                                                                               
  DAVID MILLEN, ALASKA MARINE PILOTS, testified in support of                  
  HB 237 and outlined his groups position:                                     
                                                                               
       - The only purpose of piloting act is public safety.                    
                                                                               
       - The Act ensures safety of shipping.                                   
                                                                               
       - The 1991 amendments to the pilotage act were good but                 
  failed to create an unrestricted free market enterprize                      
  system on marine pilotage.                                                   
                                                                               
       - Competition does not exist in pilotage because there                  
  is not a large pool of buyers and sellers.                                   
                                                                               
       - Unrestricted free market pilotage puts pressure on                    
  pilots economically to cut corners on safety because they                    
  are competing for a limited amount of income.                                
                                                                               
       - Fixed tariffs have broad public policy benefits.                      
  When statutes impose compulsory pilotage, this bill would                    
  require that all pilots would be treated equally.  In                        
  addition, fixed tariffs would allow the state to continue                    
  the policy developed historically of permitting the high                     
  revenue ports to subsidize and keep the costs down for the                   
  less busy ports.  If there are not fixed tariffs and the                     
  tariffs are set on a purely competitive basis, the costs                     
  would be prohibited and not in the best interest of                          
  commerce.                                                                    
                                                                               
       - The perception that pilots make high salaries is                      
  somewhat misleading.  The average income is $100,000 minus                   
  taxes, insurance, licensing fees, etc.                                       
                                                                               
       - Alaska Public Utilities Commission has resources to                   
  set fixed tariffs in a fair manner.                                          
                                                                               
       - The only way to make a fixed tariff work is to set                    
  the number of pilots licensed.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 312                                                                   
                                                                               
  WILL ANDERSON, ALASKA MARINE PILOTS, testified in support of                 
  HB 237.  He said HB 237 would create and maintain a system                   
  that puts safety first.  Mr. Anderson echoed Mr. Millin's                    
  statements.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 368                                                                   
                                                                               
  TERRY BENNETT, CO-FOUNDER OF ALASKA COASTWISE PILOTS,                        
  testified in opposition to HB 237.  Mr. Bennett stated that                  
  his group did not ask that this bill be introduced, and as                   
  far as he knew, neither did the industry.                                    
                                                                               
  MR. BENNETT stated that HB 237 says that setting fixed                       
  tariff's will allow industry a longer view of the tariff                     
  situation, but also allows for the tariff's to be amended at                 
  any time.  Mr. Bennett stated this is already the case                       
  because his group's contracts contain a clause referring to                  
  annual adjustment, patterned after those seen in union                       
  collective bargaining agreements.                                            
                                                                               
  With respect to "uniformity of tariffs," MR. BENNETT                         
  directed the committee's attention to the state's                            
  requirement that pilot groups publish their tariffs and                      
  maintain them for at least a year.                                           
                                                                               
  MR. BENNETT stated he believes that his group has done                       
  nothing unfair in its bargaining with industry and that                      
  SEAPA (Southeast Alaska Pilots Association) made bad                         
  business decisions last year and they want the legislature                   
  to make it up for them.                                                      
                                                                               
  MR. BENNETT suggested that if the legislature puts in play a                 
  mechanism for a fixed tariff, it will destabalize a                          
  bargaining procedure that all participants have haggled over                 
  for almost two years.                                                        
                                                                               
  MR. BENNETT said there was no need for a limitation on the                   
  number of licensed pilots.  State licensure is already self-                 
  limiting due to the great difficulty in gaining entry into                   
  the profession brought about by the 1991 legislation.  There                 
  is an element of unpredictability in the attrition rate of                   
  pilots due to age, illness or death.  He reminded the                        
  committee that, as they know, fog in Sitka or Juneau can                     
  result in air traffic delays in the summer when as many as                   
  half of Southeast's marine pilots may be in transit.                         
                                                                               
  MR. BENNETT added that limited entry is discriminatory,                      
  unfair, and un-American.                                                     
                                                                               
  MR. BENNETT suggested that limited cross-regional licensing                  
  would greatly benefit safety of pilotage in Alaska,                          
  particularly in Prince William Sound from the sea to Valdez.                 
                                                                               
  (Mr. Bennett's complete statement is on file in the                          
  committee office.)                                                           
                                                                               
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  KARL LUCK, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING,                     
  DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, testified                   
  in support of HB 237.  Mr. Luck stated that his division is                  
  in the process of auditing all pilotage reports in Southeast                 
  to attempt to clarify the picture for the committee.  Mr.                    
  Luck stated that the report will attempt to be as accurate                   
  as possible, but the reporting procedures are not consistent                 
  and the job is not an easy one.  The report should be                        
  available to the committee by Tuesday, April 6, 1993.                        
                                                                               
  MR. LUCK stated that the trend is that there was plenty of                   
  work for SEAPA during that period.  Mr. Luck added that the                  
  numbers that Mr. Bennett provided are in the ball park.                      
                                                                               
  No action was taken on HB 237.  It was held over for a                       
  future date.                                                                 
  Bills not heard today:  SB 64 and HB 241.                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN HUDSON adjourned the meeting at 6:15 p.m.                           

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