Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

03/15/2024 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 15, 2024                                                                                         
                           1:05 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sarah Vance, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Jamie Allard, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Andrew Gray                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Jesse Sumner                                                                                                     
Representative Cliff Groh                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 358                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to use of artificial intelligence to create or                                                                 
alter a representation of the voice or likeness of an                                                                           
individual."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 254                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to liability for publishing or distributing                                                                    
pornography to minors on the Internet."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 358                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PROHIBIT AI-ALTERED REPRESENTATIONS                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) CRONK                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/20/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/20/24       (H)       JUD                                                                                                    
03/13/24       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/13/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/24       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/15/24       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 254                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PROHIBIT PORNOGRAPHY TO MINORS                                                                                     
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) VANCE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
01/16/24       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/12/24                                                                               

01/16/24 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS

01/16/24 (H) L&C, JUD

01/31/24 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124

01/31/24 (H) Heard & Held

01/31/24 (H) MINUTE(L&C) 03/06/24 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124 03/06/24 (H) Heard & Held 03/06/24 (H) MINUTE(L&C) 03/11/24 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124 03/11/24 (H) Moved HB 254 Out of Committee 03/11/24 (H) MINUTE(L&C) 03/13/24 (H) L&C RPT 1DP 1DNP 3NR 1AM 03/13/24 (H) DP: SADDLER 03/13/24 (H) DNP: CARRICK 03/13/24 (H) NR: PRAX, WRIGHT, RUFFRIDGE 03/13/24 (H) AM: FIELDS 03/13/24 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120 03/13/24 (H) Heard & Held 03/13/24 (H) MINUTE(JUD) 03/15/24 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120 WITNESS REGISTER ERIC FALER, representing self Cleveland, Ohio POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 254. SAVANNAH SLY, representing self Burlington, Vermont POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to HB 254. MANDY SALLEY, Chief Operating Officer Woodhull Freedom Foundation New York City, New York POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to HB 254. TERRA BURNS, Advocate Community United for Safety and Protection Fairbanks, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to HB 254. SHARON BYRNE, Executive Director Women's Liberation Front New York City, New York POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 254. MAXINE DOOGAN, President Community United for Safety and Protection Fairbanks, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to HB 254. ACTION NARRATIVE 1:05:57 PM CHAIR VANCE called the House Judiciary Standing Committee meeting to order at 1:05 p.m. Representatives C. Johnson, Gray, Allard, and Vance were present at the call to order. HB 358-PROHIBIT AI-ALTERED REPRESENTATIONS 1:06:45 PM CHAIR VANCE announced that the first order of business would be HOUSE BILL NO. 358, "An Act relating to use of artificial intelligence to create or alter a representation of the voice or likeness of an individual." CHAIR VANCE opened public testimony on HB 358. After ascertaining that no one wished to testify, she closed public testimony. 1:07:32 PM CHAIR VANCE announced that HB 358 would be held over. HB 254-PROHIBIT PORNOGRAPHY TO MINORS 1:07:51 PM CHAIR VANCE announced that the final order of business would be HOUSE BILL NO. 254, "An Act relating to liability for publishing or distributing pornography to minors on the Internet." CHAIR VANCE opened public testimony on HB 254. 1:08:32 PM ERIC FALER, representing self, testified in support of HB 254. He shared a personal anecdote and reported that 71 percent of teenagers aged 13-17 come across pornography without looking for it, and children aged 11-13 are the most likely to say that it was unintentional. He reiterated his support for the bill. 1:10:00 PM SAVANNAH SLY, representing self, testified in opposition to HB 254. She expressed concern about the privacy risk that the bill posed for Alaskans; in addition, she said it might be ineffective in preventing minors from accessing adult material. She expressed further concern that requiring Alaskans to upload their identification (ID) could create a highly sensitive, stigmatized data bank that would entice hackers. She believed that there are better ways to accomplish the goal of preventing minors from accessing adult material. She recommended more holistic prevention measures, such as the installation of adult controls and filters on devices used by minors. 1:11:54 PM MANDY SALLEY, Chief Operating Officer, Woodhull Freedom Foundation, testified in opposition to HB 254. She said she agreed with the goal of keeping children from age-inappropriate material; however, similar bills in Utah, Texas, and Louisiana raise significant privacy risks for consumers and violate First Amendment protections. Not only are these bills unconstitutional and a danger to consumer privacy, but they are also ineffective at preventing minors from accessing adult content and easily evaded through the use of virtual private networks (VPN). She pointed out that compliance with HB 254 would require users to transmit sensitive data, such as digitized copies of their government issued ID, to age- verification software providers, which would open them up to the risk of data breaches. If passed, she said HB 254 would violate Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 1:14:00 PM TERRA BURNS, Advocate, Community United for Safety and Protection, testified in opposition to HB 254. As an adult content creator in Alaska, she believed that the bill would increase her income by preventing the free sharing of pornography online. Further, she opined that the definition of pornography in HB 254 would be too broad to enforce. She expressed concern that if the bill were to pass, she could be sued for the actions of someone stealing and distributing her content. 1:16:41 PM SHARON BYRNE, Executive Director, Women's Liberation Front, testified in support of HB 254. She reported that Texas, Louisiana, and Utah withstood legal challenges by Pornhub on similar legislation. She described pornography as a form of economic violence against women and said too many young people are exposed to violent content at a young age. She opined that anything to limit the exploitative nature of pornography against women should be done. 1:18:12 PM MAXINE DOOGAN, President, Community United for Safety and Protection, testified in opposition to HB 254. She stated that the civil litigations implemented by HB 254 would not match the problems presented by the bill sponsor. She shared her belief that parents who are exposing their children to adult content should learn how to use parental controls. Further, she opined that allowing content creators to be targeted in civil litigation would be inappropriate. CHAIR VANCE closed public testimony on HB 254. 1:19:49 PM [HB 254 was held over.] 1:20:05 PM CHAIR VANCE clarified a misstatement made on the record during the confirmation hearing for Joyce Anderson to the Select Committee on Legislative Ethics [on 3/8/24]. She relayed that Ms. Anderson had never been registered as a democrat or a republican in any state. Ms. Anderson registered to vote when she moved to Alaska in 1999 as nonpartisan. Prior to moving to Alaska, Ms. Anderson lived in Minnesota, which did not require party affiliation to register to vote. As director of elections and voter registration for Minneapolis for 14 years, Ms. Anderson remained apolitical and nonpartisan. Chair Vance noted that this statement from Ms. Anderson did not constitute agreement or disagreement by any members, and that her confirmation would be taken up on the House floor. 1:21:53 PM ADJOURNMENT There being no further business before the committee, the House Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 1:21 p.m.

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 358 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HFSH 3/25/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/25/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 358
HB 358 - v.A.pdf HFSH 3/25/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 358
HB 358 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/25/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 358
HB 358 - Statement of Zero Fiscal Impact.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/25/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 358
HB 358 - Alaska Broadcasters Association - Support of Policy.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/25/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 358
HB 358 - Backup Document Articles & Research.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/25/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 358
HB 254 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 - v.A.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 - Slideshow Presentation.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 - Letters of Support.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 - Top 13 Age Verification APIs in 2023.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 254
HB 254 - Age Verfication Petition.pdf HJUD 3/13/2024 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 3/15/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 254