02/21/2018 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY
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| Confirmation(s) | |
| HB330 | |
| Confirmation | |
| HB330 | |
| HB307 | |
| Adjourn |
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| + | HB 259 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| + | TELECONFERENCED | ||
| += | HB 307 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 330 | TELECONFERENCED | |
ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE
February 21, 2018
1:54 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Matt Claman, Chair
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux
Representative David Eastman
Representative Chuck Kopp
Representative Lora Reinbold
Representative Louise Stutes (alternate)
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Zach Fansler, Vice Chair
Representative Charisse Millett (alternate)
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):
Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association
William Gordon - Salcha
- CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 330
"An Act authorizing the commissioner of natural resources to
disclose confidential information in an investigation or
proceeding, including a lease royalty audit, appeal, or request
for reconsideration and issue a protective order limiting the
persons who have access to the confidential information."
- HEARD & HELD
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):
Violent Crimes Compensation Board
Jeffrey Stubblefield - Eagle River
- CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 307
"An Act requiring a person who commits certain offenses under
the code of military justice to register as a sex offender or
child kidnapper; relating to the Servicemembers Civil Relief
Act; relating to contracts made by a member of the organized
militia; relating to nonjudicial punishment of members of the
organized militia; relating to offenses subject to court-martial
proceedings; and providing for an effective date."
- MOVED CSHB 307(JUD) OUT OF COMMITTEE
HOUSE BILL NO. 259
"An Act relating to containing or confining loads being
transported on highways."
- BILL HEARING CANCELED
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HB 330
SHORT TITLE: DNR: DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFO
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR
02/05/18 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/05/18 (H) JUD, RES
02/16/18 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
02/16/18 (H) Heard & Held
02/16/18 (H) MINUTE(JUD)
02/21/18 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
BILL: HB 307
SHORT TITLE: MILITARY JUSTICE & MILITIA CIVIL RELIEF
SPONSOR(s): TUCK
01/24/18 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/24/18 (H) MLV, JUD
01/30/18 (H) MLV AT 1:30 PM GRUENBERG 120
01/30/18 (H) Heard & Held
01/30/18 (H) MINUTE(MLV)
02/06/18 (H) MLV AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
02/06/18 (H) Heard & Held
02/06/18 (H) MINUTE(MLV)
02/13/18 (H) MLV AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
02/13/18 (H) Moved CSHB 307(MLV) Out of Committee
02/13/18 (H) MINUTE(MLV)
02/14/18 (H) MLV RPT CS(MLV) NT 2DP 1NR 2AM
02/14/18 (H) DP: PARISH, TUCK
02/14/18 (H) NR: SADDLER
02/14/18 (H) AM: RAUSCHER, LEDOUX
02/19/18 (H) JUD AT 1:30 PM GRUENBERG 120
02/19/18 (H) Heard & Held
02/19/18 (H) MINUTE(JUD)
02/21/18 (H) JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120
WITNESS REGISTER
WILLIAM GORDON
Fairbanks, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: As appointee to the Board of Governors of
the Alaska Bar Association, discussed his qualifications and
answered questions.
KEN ALPER, Director
Tax Division
Department of Revenue
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: During the hearing of HB 330, testified and
answered questions.
JEFFREY STUBBLEFIELD, Appointee
Eagle River, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: As appointee to the Violent Crimes
Compensation Board, discussed his qualifications and answered
questions.
MICHAEL HURLEY
Director of Government Relations
ConocoPhillips Alaska, Inc.
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: During the hearing of HB 330, offered
testimony and answered questions.
PETER CALTAGIRONE, Assistant Attorney General
Natural Resources Section
Department of Law (DOL)
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: During the hearing of HB 330, answered
questions.
ED KING, Special Assistant
Commissioners Office
Department of Natural Resources
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: During the hearing of HB 330, answered
questions.
KENDRA KLOSTER, Staff
Representative Chris Tuck
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: During the hearing of HB 307, explained
Amendment 1.
REPRESENTATIVE CHRIS TUCK
Alaska State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: During the hearing of HB 307, offered his
thoughts regarding the legislation and adoption of Amendment 1,
as prime sponsor.
LIEUTENTANT COLONEL CHRIS WEAVER
Alaska National Guard
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: During the hearing of HB 307, answered a
question.
ACTION NARRATIVE
1:54:10 PM
CHAIR MATT CLAMAN called the House Judiciary Standing Committee
meeting to order at 1:54 p.m. Representatives Claman, Reinbold,
Kopp, Kreiss-Tomkins, and DeDoux were present at the call to
order. Representatives Eastman and Stutes (alternate for
Representative Fansler) arrived as the meeting was in progress.
^CONFIRMATION(S)
CONFIRMATION
Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association
1:54:38 PM
CHAIR CLAMAN announced that the first order of business brought
before the committee would be the confirmation hearing for the
Board of Governors.
1:55:24 PM
WILLIAM GORDON advised that he would like to continue his
service on the Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association
because continuity on that board is important and the board is
facing pressing issues. He added to his resume and advised that
he has been a co-chair of a "C3 and C4 Group" entitled "Justice,
Not Politics, Alaska" which may be germane to this discussion.
This group is set up to defend the judicial articles and the
constitution on a merit based (audio difficulties) system and,
he explained, it also determines how to better weigh in on
judicial (audio difficulties) and collection processes. Mr.
Gordon advised that he is a second-generation Alaskan, and has
lived in Fairbanks, Anchorage, Juneau, and Nenana, and all of
those places have given him a wealth of information about Alaska
and some of its needs. He noted that he has worked in positions
that have possibly taken him to every village in Alaska,
sometimes on multiple occasions, and he remarked that he is
"pretty well versed" on what is going on and he brings that
knowledge to the Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar
Association. Mr. Gordon pointed out that he has served in some
of the highest positions of both state government and the
private sector, on many boards in the private sector, in
Governor Jay Hammond's administration, he served as chair of the
Alcoholic Beverage Control Board ("ABC Board"), served on the
Alaska Judicial Council, and served on the Board of Governors on
the Alaska Bar Association for "a couple of terms."
1:58:10 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP remarked that he had served with Mr. Gordon
on the Alaska Judicial Council, his service there was exemplary,
and he could not be more pleased to advance Mr. Gordon's
nomination.
CHAIR CLAMAN closed the invited testimony for the Board of
Governors on the Alaska Bar Association.
1:59:15 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD referred to Senate Bill 91 [passed in
the Twenty-Ninth Alaska State Legislature] and asked whether Mr.
Gordon had an opinion on Senate Bill 91, and whether the number
one policy should be to protect the citizens of Alaska and
ensure they are safe in their communities.
1:59:54 PM
CHAIR CLAMAN instructed Representative Reinbold that he would
allow Mr. Gordon to broadly answer her question about the number
of measures involving criminal justice beginning with Senate
Bill 64 [passed in the Twenty-Eighth Alaska State Legislature].
Except, for purposes of this application and his qualifications
to serve on the Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar
Association, whether Mr. Gordon has a position as to the efforts
to improve public safety is not part of that application
process.
MR. GORDON responded that he has some knowledge of the criminal
justice efforts regarding recidivism in the state's prisons and
other issues relating to criminal justice that are (audio
difficulties). He offered that he had listened to presentations
on the bills during bar conventions, and during one bar
convention spoke with a presenter from Georgia who explained
Georgia's criminal justice reform efforts. Outside of that
exposure, he commented, he was not qualified to say anything
other than, as an Alaskan he applauds any efforts to take hard
looks at the state's policies and processes that might make the
public safer, and possibly save "a dollar or two somewhere along
the road."
2:01:27 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD said that due to the audio difficulties
it was difficult to understand Mr. Gordon's testimony, but that
she basically understood something about recidivism. She
commented to Chair Claman that she has to defer with the people
on the "Judicial Council" and its administrators all the time
for the work she is doing ...
CHAIR CLAMAN interrupted and advised Representative Reinbold
that Mr. Gordon is not the Alaska Judicial Council nominee, he
is the Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association nominee.
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD said that she understood that
information, except Mr. Gordon had referred to recidivism in his
comments.
CHAIR CLAMAN reminded Representative Reinbold that this is a
confirmation hearing, and to ask Mr. Gordon a question he can
answer.
2:02:01 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD asked Mr. Gordon to be cognizant of "how
they define recidivism" because she recently received the
definition and "how they have defined recidivism," which causes
her deep concern. She reiterated her request that Mr. Gordon
keep in mind that this is something of utmost importance to
Alaskans and to be aware that public safety is Alaska's number
one concern.
CHAIR CLAMAN instructed Mr. Gordon not to respond to
Representative Reinbold's comments.
2:03:00 PM
CHAIR CLAMAN commented that he previously served on the Board of
Governor's of the Alaska Bar Association and had advised the
public members that even though they appear to represent a
minority on the board, he has been impressed that the public
members were exceptionally capable of controlling the decisions
and directing the direction of the Alaska Bar Association. He
encouraged Mr. Gordon to continue to play a strong role as a
public member, and that he was pleased to move Mr. Gordon's name
forward.
2:03:58 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS said that the House Judiciary
Standing Committee has reviewed the qualifications of the
governor's appointee and recommends that William Gordon's name
be forwarded to a joint session of the House of Representatives
and Senate for consideration. This action does not reflect
intent by any of the members to vote for or against Mr. Gordon
during any further sessions for the purposes of appointment.
HB 330-DNR: DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFO
2:04:45 PM
CHAIR CLAMAN announced that the next order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 330, "An Act authorizing the commissioner of
natural resources to disclose confidential information in an
investigation or proceeding, including a lease royalty audit,
appeal, or request for reconsideration and issue a protective
order limiting the persons who have access to the confidential
information."
CHAIR CLAMAN advised that this is the second hearing of the bill
by the House Judiciary Standing Committee wherein the committee
had heard a presentation from Ed King, Legislative Liaison to
the Commissioner of the Department of Natural Resources (DNR).
The committee had asked questions related to confidential
processes within Department of Revenue (DOR), and Ken Alper and
Jenny Rogers are available to testify, together with a
representative from the oil industry, Michael Hurley,
ConocoPhillips Alaska. He added that this committee received a
2/16/18 letter of opposition from Lorali Simon, Vice President
of External Affairs, Usibelli Coal Mine.
2:05:55 PM
KEN ALPER, Director, Tax Division, Department of Revenue,
advised that, generally, HB 330 is for the Department of Natural
Resources (DNR) as it relates to its treatment of a private
company's information in the context of a royalty audit. The
manner in which DNR values royalties is based on the highest
transaction of a given quantity of oil, he explained, and if one
company is partners with a second company and the second company
receives a higher price for its oil, the first company is
charged a royalty based on what the second company received,
"the highest of." Therein lays the problem, he remarked, DNR
does not have the ability to tell that first company about the
information DNR received from the second company due to taxpayer
confidentiality, which this bill would remedy. The Department
of Revenue Tax Division holds similar rights within its oil and
gas production tax, wherein there are multiple partners,
multiple working interest owners, and for various reasons, the
Tax Division might use value or price information from one
company to impact how it might be calculating tax in an audit on
another company. He offered his understanding that his
testimony today was simply to convey to the committee that this
bill represents a similar authority currently existing within
the Department of Revenue. He further offered that DNR requests
this legislation for its internal housekeeping and auditing
purposes.
2:07:48 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD asked whether he was aware of any
opposition to HB 330.
MR. ALPER answered that he was not aware of any opposition. He
advised that he did read the letter from Usibelli Coal Mine and,
he pointed out, he did not understand the letter in the context
of DNR's purpose and intent regarding this bill. He stressed
the importance of recognizing that DNR and DOR are not looking
to divulge confidential information to the general public, it is
simply about sharing one taxpayer's information with another
related taxpayer, within a fairly narrow constrained purpose.
2:08:50 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD noted that if tremendous investments had
taken place on certain pieces of property, there could be
concerns about the private sector's investments. She said she
"is amazed" that Mr. Alper is not aware of any other opposition
at all, with the exception of the Usibelli Coal Mine.
CHAIR CLAMAN injected that Mr. King is the better person to
answer that question because it is a DNR bill; therefore, the
objections would go to DNR and not to the Mr. Alper.
MR. ALPER answered that Mr. Hurley, ConocoPhillips Alaska, may
also be able to provide some insight. From the Department of
Revenue's (DOR) perspective, the key piece is that DOR already
has this authority and, to his knowledge, it is not a
controversial authority. He advised that Jenny Rogers,
Department of Revenue (DOR) is available, and has been with
DOR's production tax group for over 20-years and she may be able
to provide historical reasons why it may have been done in the
past. He described it as "a lightly used authority," and that
it has not been used more than a handful of times for a specific
need.
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD said that Mr. Alper did not answer the
question because she had asked ...
CHAIR CLAMAN reiterated that the better person to ask is Mr.
King.
2:10:24 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked that if the department already has
authority, why is the bill necessary.
MR. ALPER replied that this is a Department of Natural Resources
(DNR) bill that is seeking a similar authority for royalty
audits that the Department of Revenue (DOR) currently holds for
its tax audits.
2:11:06 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX surmised that this authority allows DOR to
share one taxpayer's information with another taxpayer.
MR. ALPER explained that DOR's authorities are not changed by
this bill, DNR's authority is being changed wherein DNR would
hold the authority to share confidential information within the
narrow context of an audit or an investigation, specifically
where one taxpayer's information is being used to change the
royalties paid by another taxpayer. For example, the companies
may be affiliated in some manner, and the sharing taxpayer
received a higher price for its oil than the other taxpayer, and
that price is being used to set the royalties owed by the second
taxpayer.
CHAIR CLAMAN suggested that some of the questions should be
directed to Mr. King.
2:12:22 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP surmised that the weighted average of the
three highest prices in any one field comes into play when a
producer contests a royalty owed. Under the audit rules, DNR
establishes the going price point that sets the dollar amount
owed, which is the average of the three highest field prices.
He explained that that is the reason everyone must be able to
see what the highest three prices were because that is the
process in determining the amount actually owed.
MR. ALPER opined that he believed that was correct and deferred
to Mr. King.
CHAIR CLAMAN noted that when this process occurs, it occurs
within the context of a protective order and it is not publicly
available, this process is only within the narrow confines of
the audit proceeding.
2:13:50 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked whether questions about protective
orders would more appropriate for "this speaker or the next
one."
CHAIR CLAMAN advised that questions about the context of a
protective order should be directed to the Department of Law,
and a representative is available.
MR. ALPER offered that there is a similar protective order
structure within DNR's authorities under AS 43.55.040 as to what
is contemplated here in this change in DNR statutes.
^CONFIRMATION
CONFIRMATION
Violent Crimes Compensation Board
CHAIR CLAMAN announced that the next order of business would be
a confirmation hearing for the Violent Crimes Compensation
Board.
2:14:52 PM
JEFFREY STUBBLEFIELD, Appointee, advised that he is a physician
at the Alaska Native Medical Center (ANMC) and he has been on
the Violent Crimes Compensation Board for the past couple of
years. He said he prefers being on this board because he is
able to offer a greater impact statewide versus simply within
his local area.
2:15:47 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD asked whether Dr. Stubblefield had any
feelings about Senate Bill 91, and ...
CHAIR CLAMAN stressed that he would not allow questions about
Senate Bill 91 or the whole process, this hearing is with regard
to the Violent Crimes Compensation Board and her questions must
relate to that board.
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD argued that the Violent Crimes
Compensation Board is about violent crimes compensation and has
everything to do with Senate Bill 91 ...
CHAIR CLAMAN interjected that he had clearly advised
Representative Reinbold that the committee members would not ask
Dr. Stubblefield his opinion about Senate Bill 91, but they
could ask him about the work he would perform on this board.
2:16:33 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD asked Dr. Stubblefield to explain why he
is interested in continuing to serve on this board.
DR. STUBBLEFIELD offered that he brings a valuable piece to the
board because he has been in the field of medicine for 30-years,
and he can make a determination based on the medical information
provided to the board and, thereby, add to a complete group
decision to best adjudicate the decisions for victims.
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD referred to the permanent fund dividend
(PFD) and the violent crimes compensations and asked whether Dr.
Stubblefield had any concern with regard to those issues while
serving on the board.
DR. STUBBLEFIELD answered that he does not have any current
issues or concerns.
2:17:26 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD asked whether "that is fully funded to
the best of your knowledge, and you have no concerns in regards
to that?"
DR. STUBBLEFIELD advised that he had not read anything new that
was concerning to him.
2:17:56 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP commented that Dr. Stubblefield's impressive
history includes: his long-standing service of more than 20-
years in the United States Air Force as a medical officer, he is
a veteran of Kuwait, and Dr. Stubblefield's medical resume is
impeccable. He said it is a privilege to have people such as
Dr. Stubblefield on this board.
CHAIR CLAMAN commented that it is always good to have physicians
on a board when reviewing injuries people may have suffered.
2:18:45 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS advised that the House Judiciary
Standing Committee reviewed the qualifications of Dr. Jeffrey
Stubblefield, the governor's appointee, and recommends that his
name be forwarded to a joint session of the House of
Representatives and Senate for the purpose of appointment. This
does not reflect intent by any members of this committee to vote
for or against Dr. Stubblefield during any further sessions for
the purposes of appointment.
HB 330-DNR: DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFO
2:19:09 PM
CHAIR CLAMAN returned the committee to HB 330, and asked Michael
Hurley, ConocoPhillips Alaska, to come forward and testify.
2:19:49 PM
MICHAEL HURLEY, Director of Government Relations, ConocoPhillips
Alaska, Inc., advised he was available to testify.
CHAIR CLAMAN noted that Mr. Hurley will answers questions as to
how ConocoPhillips Alaska participates in the protective order
process and its perspective on the protective orders. He
stressed that Mr. Hurley is not here to offer an official
position of ConocoPhillips Alaska, as to this bill.
2:20:18 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked whether ConocoPhillips Alaska did
not have a position on this bill because it had analyzed all of
the information and decided to not take a position, or because
the company is still analyzing the bill and has not had enough
time to calculate a position.
MR. HURLEY responded that the bill has some good aspects to it
with some mildly concerning aspects for the company, and it
decided to "let it take its course."
2:21:03 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX requested an explanation of the good
aspects to the bill, and the aspects that gives the company
pause.
MR. HURLEY responded that this authority, given to the
Department of Natural Resources (DNR) to provide these
protective orders themselves, is helpful because ConocoPhillips
Alaska's goal is to try and pay its royalties when they become
due. He related that the authority is important to
ConocoPhillips Alaska because, although the legislature made
changes last year in terms of the interest rate charged in
taxes, DNR still has an 11 percent interest rate that accrues on
unpaid royalties. Therefore, he explained, if DNR goes six-
years before auditing the royalty, or ten-years before "some of
that stuff is resolved," there is a consequential situation of
11 percent interest over ten-years. That situation could triple
the amount owed, yet the company's goal is to try and pay its
royalties as close to the correct amount as possible as soon as
they are due. This legislation is another tool for the
department to share confidential information with other
producers to determine that average price, thereby allowing
ConocoPhillips Alaska to pay its royalties as accurately as
possible when they are due.
2:23:13 PM
MR. HURLEY offered concern with the section of the bill
regarding the protective orders because "other things could be
included in that kind of proprietary bucket of things," such as
the geological and geophysical information. He explained that
the geological and geophysical information, within a competitive
industry business such as ConocoPhillips Alaska, is "very
confidential" for the companies. Mr. Hurley pointed out that,
as Mr. King had previously testified, DNR uses that authority
solely in obscure situations, and he is not aware of any of
those situations (audio difficulties). On the whole, he opined,
the legislation is positive due to the benefits it brings
forward with the existing protective orders and, "it should be
okay."
2:24:54 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX noted that the purpose of the bill, as has
been explained, is for royalty audits. She referred to HB 330,
[AS 38.05.020(b)(15), page 3, lines 25-30] and noted that it
appears to be broader than simply royalty audits and suggested
limiting the language to simply read "royalty." She asked
whether that narrowed language would allay some of the concerns
he had voiced.
MR. HURLEY answered in the affirmative.
2:25:51 PM
[CHAIR CLAMAN and Representative Reinbold discussed the
appropriateness of certain questions.}
2:27:09 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD asked whether Mr. Hurley was aware of
any pushback, other than Usibelli Coal Mine, on this bill.
MR. HURLEY answered, "No."
2:27:25 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked whether the protective order
process could be misused where confidential information was
somehow leaked to the public. He further asked whether that was
a concern to Mr. Hurley and whether instances in that manner had
taken place in the past.
MR. HURLEY responded that he is unaware of any instances of that
nature. Especially, he offered, with the type of data being
discussed in computing the royalty amounts wherein the average
of the three highest prices determine the amount owed for
royalty. He related that he does not have any particular
concern about the other pieces of it, and as Representative
LeDoux suggested, if it were limited solely to royalties, he
would be happier but "it's okay."
2:28:51 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP surmised that currently, if there is an
appeal based on a tax audit and ConocoPhillips Alaska disagrees,
the information is necessary to be disclosed in order to come to
the correct valuation in the law. He asked whether that means
(audio difficulties) now.
MR. HURLEY answered yes, and he explained that currently, there
have been situations where ConocoPhillips Alaska received some
of the information through a court protective order. This bill
allows a simpler process of going through the commissioner's
office rather than going to court with an actual dispute before
"you get there." He reiterated that the company's goal is to
make sure it can pay its royalties in a timely manner at the
correct amount and not incur those interest charges. He pointed
out that having the protective order process go through the
commissioner's office, ConocoPhillips Alaska is hoping that
process will allow DNR to make those averages calculations on a
timelier basis so the company can pay the correct amount as it
becomes due.
2:31:10 PM
PETER CALTAGIRONE, Assistant Attorney General, Natural Resources
Section, Department of Law (DOL), was available for questions.
2:31:19 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked the severity of the penalties if a
protective order, in this context, is violated.
MR. CALTAGIRONE asked, "The penalties to whom?"
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN responded that to whomever violated the
structure of a protective order.
MR. CALTAGIRONE asked whether Representative Eastman was asking
about a producer misusing otherwise confidential information
that was contrary to the terms set forth in the protective
order, and what happens next.
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN answered yes, and he asked what happens
when the confidential information is misused or is disclosed to
an unauthorized party."
MR. CALTAGIRONE advised that a protective order should be set up
in the same manner as the confidentiality agreements are
currently set up. This, he offered, would provide specific
rules for handling the information as to who, within the
receiving party can handle the information, what purpose the
information can be used for, and is extremely limiting in both
of those respects. There is also language that protects the
state from liability if that information is misused by the
receiving party. In theory, he said, for the company whose
information is being disclosed, the remedy is that it would have
to pursue against the receiving party if the receiving party
misused that information somehow.
CHAIR CLAMAN explained that all royalty and other proceedings
are confidential proceedings, at least until such time as
someone starts appealing it up through the court system. The
administrative proceedings within DNR are all confidential for
all parties, he reiterated.
2:33:59 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN noted a concern raised by at least one
company, that through this bill, the confidential information
under a protective order could become available to an
adversarial party. He asked Mr. Caltagirone whether that
concern was unfounded.
MR. CALTAGIRONE surmised that Representative Eastman's question
was whether there was a possibility that that could happen. He
responded that it certainly could happen, except that DNR, in
issuing its protective order, lays out specific and narrowing
circumstances under which the information could be used. In the
event DNR had reason to believe the terms of its protective
order had been violated, it could go to the superior court and
seek the appropriate sanctions (audio difficulties).
2:35:05 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN surmised that the discussion is about
civil sanctions and a lawsuit setting, except, he said that he
envisioned a situation where an anti-mining group might have
access to this information, misuse it in some manner, declare
bankruptcy relatively quickly and have no funds. Therefore,
that party would not have much in the way of a penalty in the
type of civil suit setting being discussed. He asked to what
extent that anti-coal mining group receiving the information in
the first place could happen through HB 330, and whether Mr.
Caltagirone had considered that possibility.
CHAIR CLAMAN asked whether Mr. Caltagirone had read the 2/14/18
letter from Usibelli Coal Mine that Representative Eastman is
referencing.
MR. CALTAGIRONE advised that he has seen that letter and asked
Representative Eastman to repeat his compound question.
2:36:37 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked whether there is a mechanism under
HB 330 for that anti-mining group to obtain access to this
information and a lawsuit would be the remedy. He asked whether
there was a manner in which "they could get access to the
information," and if not, his question is moot.
MR. CALTAGIRONE answered that he is not fully versed in mining
law as it is not his area of practice. However, he said, he did
speak with a mining attorney prior to this hearing and his
understanding is that in Representative Eastman's scenario, this
is information the group may be able to obtain anyway, outside
of HB 330. Although, he said that he may be incorrect, and he
would like the opportunity to file a written response after
researching the question because he did not want to speak out of
school.
2:38:43 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked Mr. Caltagirone that if the
committee limited the new section [AS 38.05.020(b)(15)] to
"royalty," whether that would take care of the situation
presented by Ms. Simon, Usibelli Coal Mine.
MR. CALTAGIRONE opined that amendments were recently submitted
regarding page 3, line 25, clarifying that this bill is related
to oil and gas, which would alleviate any concerns presented by
Osibelli Coal Mine.
2:40:27 PM
ED KING, Special Assistant, Commissioners Office, Department of
Natural Resources, advised that after receiving the 2/16/18
letter from Usibelli Coal Mine, DNR contemplated an amendment to
rectify its concerns and he offered to share that amendment with
the committee.
CHAIR CLAMAN advised Mr. King that there are deadlines for
amendments so the committee members would have an opportunity to
review the amendments in advance. He pointed out that Mr. King
is coming to the committee now, in the midst of the hearing,
with a potential amendment that the committee may want to
review. He advised Mr. King that offering amendments in this
manner is not consistent with the manner in which the committee
operates, and because every member of the committee would like
to review the amendment, it would not be taken up today.
2:41:59 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked whether members would have a chance
to offer amendments.
CHAIR CLAMAN answered, "Absolutely."
[HB 330 was held over.]
HB 307-MILITARY JUSTICE & MILITIA CIVIL RELIEF
2:42:58 PM
CHAIR CLAMAN announced that the next order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 307, "An Act requiring a person who commits
certain offenses under the code of military justice to register
as a sex offender or child kidnapper; relating to the
Servicemembers Civil Relief Act; relating to contracts made by a
member of the organized militia; relating to nonjudicial
punishment of members of the organized militia; relating to
offenses subject to court-martial proceedings; and providing for
an effective date."
2:43:51 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX moved to adopt Amendment 1, Version 30-
LS1099\D.1, Glover, 2/20/18, which read as follows:
Page 11, following line 31:
Insert new bill sections to read:
"* Sec. 21. AS 26.05.855(b) is amended to read:
(b) A member of the militia who (1) operates or
physically controls a nonmilitary vehicle, aircraft,
or vessel while impaired by a controlled substance
[DESCRIBED IN AS 26.05.870(c)], or (2) operates or is
in actual physical control of a nonmilitary vehicle,
aircraft, or vessel while under the influence of
alcohol or when the alcohol concentration in the
person's blood or breath is equal to or exceeds the
applicable limit under (d) of this section may be
punished by up to one year of confinement, by
separation with characterization up to dishonorable
discharge, and by such other punishment as a court-
martial may direct, or under (e) of this section if
the member is not in active duty status at the time of
the offense, or by up to five years of confinement, by
separation with characterization up to dishonorable
discharge, and by such other punishment as a court-
martial may direct if the member is in active duty
status at the time of the offense.
* Sec. 22. AS 26.05.855(c) is amended to read:
(c) A member of the militia who (1) operates or
physically controls a vehicle, aircraft, or vessel of
the armed forces of the United States or the militia
of a state in a negligent or reckless manner or while
impaired by a controlled substance [DESCRIBED IN
AS 26.05.870(c)], or (2) operates or is in actual
physical control of a vehicle, aircraft, or vessel of
the armed forces of the United States or the militia
of a state while under the influence of alcohol or
when the alcohol concentration in the person's blood
or breath is equal to or exceeds the applicable limit
under (d) of this section may be punished by up to
five years of confinement, by separation with
characterization up to dishonorable discharge, and by
such other punishment as a court-martial may direct."
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.
Page 12, line 4:
Delete "drug"
Insert "controlled substance"
Page 12, line 5:
Delete "indulgence in"
Insert "the use of"
Page 12, lines 12 - 13:
Delete "In this subsection, "controlled
substance" has the meaning given in AS 26.05.870."
Page 12, lines 14 - 23:
Delete all material and insert:
"* Sec. 25. AS 26.05.865 is amended to read:
Sec. 26.05.865. Misbehavior of sentinel. A
sentinel or lookout who (1) as a result of the use of
any alcoholic beverage or drug, is unable to properly
perform the sentinel's or lookout's duties, (2) is
found [UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL OR] sleeping on
the sentinel's or lookout's post, (3) [OR] leaves the
sentinel's or lookout's post before being regularly
relieved, or (4) loiters or wrongfully sits down on
post may be punished, if the offense is committed in
time of war or emergency as described in AS 26.05.070,
by confinement of not more than 10 years, by
separation with characterization up to dishonorable
discharge, and by such other punishment as a court-
martial may direct, but if the offense is committed at
any other time, by up to one year of confinement, by
separation with characterization up to dishonorable
discharge, and by such other punishment as a court-
martial may direct."
Page 17, following line 18:
Insert new bill sections to read:
"* Sec. 37. AS 26.05.990 is amended by adding a new
paragraph to read:
(22) "controlled substance" means
(A) opium, heroin, cocaine, amphetamine,
lysergic acid diethylamide, methamphetamine,
phencyclidine, barbituric acid, and marijuana;
(B) a compound or derivative of a substance
specified in (A) of this paragraph;
(C) a substance not specified in (A) or (B)
of this paragraph that is listed on a schedule of
controlled substances prescribed by the President of
the United States for the purposes of the armed forces
of the United States under 10 U.S.C. 801 - 946
(Uniform Code of Military Justice);
(D) a substance not specified in (A) or (B)
of this paragraph or on a list prescribed by the
President under (C) of this paragraph that is listed
in 21 U.S.C. 812, schedules I through V;
(E) an illicit synthetic drug identified in
AS 17.21.010.
* Sec. 38. AS 26.05.870(c) is repealed."
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.
Page 17, line 26:
Delete "sec. 26"
Insert "sec. 28"
Delete "sec. 27"
Insert "sec. 29"
Page 17, line 27:
Delete "sec. 31"
Insert "sec. 33"
Delete "sec. 33"
Insert "sec. 35"
Page 17, line 29:
Delete "26, 27, 31, and 33"
Insert "28, 29, 33, and 35"
Page 18, line 7, following the second occurrence of
"Act,":
Insert "AS 26.05.855(b), as amended by sec. 21 of
this Act, AS 26.05.855(c), as amended by sec. 22 of
this Act"
Page 18, line 8:
Delete "sec. 21"
Insert "sec. 23"
Delete "sec. 22"
Insert "sec. 24"
Page 18, line 9:
Delete "sec. 23"
Insert "sec. 25"
Delete "sec. 24"
Insert "sec. 26"
Page 18, line 10:
Delete "sec. 25"
Insert "sec. 27"
Delete "sec. 26"
Insert "sec. 28"
Page 18, line 11:
Delete "sec. 27"
Insert "sec. 29"
Page 18, line 12:
Delete "28"
Insert "30"
Delete "sec. 29"
Insert "sec. 31"
Page 18, line 13:
Delete "sec. 30"
Insert "sec. 32"
Delete "sec. 32"
Insert "sec. 34"
Delete the first occurrence of "and"
Page 18, line 14:
Delete "sec. 34"
Insert "sec. 36"
Following "Act,":
Insert "and AS 26.05.990(22), enacted by sec. 37
of this Act,"
Page 18, line 15:
Delete "9 - 30, 32, and 34"
Insert "9 - 32, 34, 36, and 37"
Page 18, line 27:
Delete "8 - 34, and 35(b) - (d)"
Insert "8 - 38, and 39(b) - (d)"
Page 18, line 29:
Delete "sec. 36"
Insert "sec. 40"
Page 19, line 3:
Delete "8 - 34, and 35(b) - (d)"
Insert "8 - 38, and 39(b) - (d)"
Page 19, line 5:
Delete "sec. 38"
Insert "sec. 42"
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS objected.
2:44:08 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX deferred to Kendra Kloster.
2:44:16 PM
KENDRA KLOSTER, Staff, Representative Chris Tuck, Alaska State
Legislature, referred to HB 307, [Sec. 21, AS 26.05.860], page
12, lines 1-8, and advised that Sec. 21 is the crux of Amendment
1. She noted that a discussion ensued during a House Special
Committee on Military and Veterans' Affairs regarding the
difference between a drug and a controlled substance, and that
Amendment 1 is a continuing effort to make certain that section
is clarified.
MS. KLOSTER turned to Amendment 1, new sections, Secs. 21-22,
and advised that these are conforming changes because the
definition of "a controlled substance" is moved from AS
26.05.870 to the definition section, AS 26.05.990. She
explained that this is simply conforming and nothing is changed.
2:45:13 PM
MS. KLOSTER turned to HB 307, [Sec. 21, AS 26.05.860], page 12,
lines 4-6, which read as follows:
... found under the influence of alcohol or a
drug while on duty, or (2) as a result of indulgence
in any alcoholic beverage or drug, is unable to
properly perform the member's duty
MS. KLOSTER explained that the amendment deletes the word "drug"
and inserts "a controlled substance," on line 4, and explained
that the word "drug" could be anything, such as cough medicine.
She turned to lines 5-6 and noted that the word "indulgence" is
deleted and it inserts "the use of."
MS. KOSTER turned to HB 307, [Sec. 22, AS 26.05.860(b), page 12,
lines 12-13, which read as follows:
(b) ... accordance with a valid prescription
shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. In
this subsection, "controlled substance" has the
meaning given in AS 26.05.870.
MS. KLOSTER advised that part of the conforming change is
removing the "controlled substance" definition and moving it to
the definition section, [AS 26.05.870].
2:46:01 PM
MS. KOSTER turned to HB 307, [Sec. 23, AS 26.05.865], page 12,
lines 14-23 and advised that that language is deleted, but only
to put it back into Sec. 25.
MS. KOSTER noted that line 23 read: "Misbehavior of sentinel,"
and this case, the sponsor is using similar language under Sec.
21, and putting it into Sec. 23 in order to conform. She
referred to Amendment 1, [Sec. 25, page 2, lines 22-31, and page
3, line 1], and advised that the amendment language read as
follows:
Sec. 26.05.865. Misbehavior of sentinel. A
sentinel or lookout who (1) as a result of the use of
any alcoholic beverage or drug, is unable to properly
perform the sentinel's or lookout's duties, (2) is
found [UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL OR] sleeping on
the sentinel's or lookout's post, (3) [OR] leaves the
sentinel's or lookout's post before being regularly
relieved, or (4) loiters or wrongfully sits down on
post may be punished, if the offense is committed in
time of war or emergency as described in AS 26.05.070,
by confinement of not more than 10 years, by
separation with characterization up to dishonorable
discharge, and by such other punishment as a court-
martial may direct, but if the offense is committed at
any other time, by up to one year of confinement, by
separation with characterization up to dishonorable
discharge, and by such other punishment as a court-
martial may direct.
MS. KOSTER explained that the sponsor duplicated the language in
Sec. 21 and inserted it into Sec. 23. The remaining portions of
the amendment deletes different sections, and conforms all of
the sections and numbers, because Amendment 1 includes new
sections in the bill and renumbering.
2:47:10 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX advised that after numerous struggles and
discussions, she believes "this finally does the trick."
2:47:33 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CHRIS TUCK, in response to Chair Claman advised
that he supports Amendment 1.
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD commented to the sponsor that she was
pleased with the discussions in the House Special Committee on
Military and Veterans' Affairs, and with Amendment 1. She asked
whether the sponsor believes all of the members' concerns have
been addressed.
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK advised that it does address the voiced
concerns, and that Sec. 21 was the tough section. When looking
at "or a drug," the sponsor looked at illegal/legal,
prescribed/non-prescribed drugs and they were finally able to
put those sidebars down. He advised that his office went
through two different attorneys at Legislative Legal and
Research Services to determine how to frame the language and
added that the language was framed in the House Special
Committee on Military and Veterans' Affairs as far as prescribed
drugs used illegally.
2:49:20 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD commented that the word "drug" was too
broad and the sponsors office worked hard "with all of us," and
she supports Amendment 1.
2:49:47 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN acknowledged that the word "drug" was
changed to "a controlled substance" in a number of situations.
Except, he pointed out, within Amendment 1, Sec. 25, AS
26.05.865, page 2, lines 22-31, and page 3, line 1, the sponsor
chose not to make that change. He asked why the sponsor made
that choice, what drove the language from "alcohol" to this more
expansive "alcoholic beverage or drug," which could include
cough syrup. He requested examples, if any, of sentinels who
took non-controlled substances that impaired their duty.
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK explained that when looking at the role of a
sentinel or lookout, he wanted to encompass a sentinel taking
aspirin, but not impairing their ability to perform their work.
In that regard, the sponsor used the same conforming language
under Sec. 21, "the last half of that." Representative Tuck
explained that they also wanted to "throw that in there by
changing the definition and then throwing that section section
[sic] in there that, if perhaps, they have taken too much cold
medicine, or something else, that does make them unable to
perform -- properly perform their duty, then some action can be
taken." The goal was to not have action taken for simply taking
any drug, such as an aspirin, he explained.
2:51:31 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked what was driving Sec. 25, because
if someone was taking a lawful drug, such as aspirin, are there
occasions where aspirin has caused people "to do things they
shouldn't be doing," and that there must be a way to capture
that as an offense.
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK replied that Representative Eastman was
correct, except probably it would not be aspirin but possibly
cough medicine instead. This language encompasses everything,
and in this case, he pointed out, taking too many aspirin, and
not following the directions on the bottle may not get someone
in trouble, but if it made them unable to properly perform their
work, it would get them into trouble. He explained that this is
the language previously contained under Sec. 21 and was then
added into the new Sec. 25.
CHAIR CLAMAN suggested that someone taking over-the-counter
Benadryl could doze off under its sleep inducing effects.
2:52:58 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN advised that a sentinel not properly
performing their duty is an offense in and of itself. He asked
why the need to create this new scenario where someone is using
a lawful drug and having the same effect, and how is that a
different offense. He pointed out that the amendment did not
necessarily say that the person willfully used the substance, it
seems to be a strict liability type of situation because they
ate something and it was a drug, and whether they even knew what
they were doing is not even part of this issue.
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK responded that most of this bill is
conforming language to the United States Code of Military
Justice (USMJ), and the language updates Alaska Title 26 to
conform to the USMJ model language for all states. The
legislation was modified a small bit to include the sidebars,
but basically the model legislation asked that this language for
the alcoholic beverages and for drugs is included.
2:54:18 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN offered his thought that the model
legislation was HB 307, and Amendment 1 was more of a sidebar.
He asked whether the idea of making it expansive to simply drugs
of any kind, was intended to be part of the model legislation,
or was it part of a discussion that resulted in Amendment 1.
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK answered that the model legislation was
basically "a drug," and the question was raised that if someone
needed to take a cold medicine or an aspirin for the performance
of their work, should they be in trouble for those actions. Not
necessarily, he said, unless they are unable to perform their
work, and that section is added within Amendment 1. This is
similar to the same conditions under Sec. 21, where drunkenness
and other incapacitating offenses are listed. They looked at
the second half of that provision and the two conditions: "were
found under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance
while on duty; or (2) as a result of use of any alcoholic
beverages or drug, is unable to properly perform the member's
duty," and they added "that section to this one as well." There
should be more responsibility put on a lookout or sentinel than
on the average member performing their work, which is the reason
it read: "or loiters or wrongly sits down on their post,"
because these people need to watch out for everyone, he said.
2:56:06 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS withdrew his objection. There
being no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.
2:56:46 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN referred to HB 307, Sec. 10, page 8,
lines 16-21, and noted that the language discussed a "serious
offense," and asked whether that is defined elsewhere in the
bill, and the interpretation of a "serious offense."
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK deferred to Lieutenant Colonel Weaver.
2:57:21 PM
LIEUTENTANT COLONEL CHRIS WEAVER, Alaska National Guard, asked
that the question be repeated.
CHAIR CLAMAN asked the definition of "a serious offense" in Sec.
10 of HB 307, page 8, line 18.
LIEUTENANT COLONEL WEAVER responded that "a serious offense" is
any offense punishable under the UCMJ by death or by confinement
for a term exceeding one year.
CHAIR CLAMAN explained that in modern terms it would be called a
felony under state jurisdiction.
2:58:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD offered her appreciation for the
sponsor's office working with the majority and minority, and
that she supports the bill.
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX reiterated Representative Reinbold's
comments and added that this bill is an example of how the
committee process is supposed to work. She pointed out that and
when the House Judiciary Standing Committee worked on the entire
military justice process legislation a few years ago, that was
also an example of how the committee process is supposed to
work.
2:59:19 PM
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN noted a comment made in the previous
hearing that there should be regular updates to the USCMJ due to
the changes "in other places and whatnot." While he understands
the reason for the updates in this case, he mentioned that
uniform codes are not actually designed to be updated on a
regular basis or every couple of years. The idea is that there
is a code that is known and understood and passed on through
tradition as far as instruction. There are non-lawyer
servicemembers who are not only held by the code but are
applying the code, and in some cases presiding over courts
martial with little to no formal legal training. He encouraged
judicious use of amendments to the code and to hopefully capture
all of the needful amendments now and not come back for at least
a few years.
3:00:40 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP thanked the sponsor and his staff because
this is a critically needed piece of legislation. The criminal
justice system is always evolving, both on the civilian end and
the military end because there are many moving pieces in
criminal law. Also, he pointed out, as technology changes and
the ability to access information changes, criminal justice
matters will continually come before this committee. He said he
does expect to see amendments in the future, and he appreciates
moving this bill.
3:01:29 PM
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS moved to report CSHB 307(MLV),
Version 30-LS1099\D, as amended, out of committee with
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.
There being no objection, CSHB 307(JUD) passed out of the House
Judiciary Standing Committee.
3:02:53 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:02 p.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Appointment-William Gordon Application 2.21.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
|
| Violent Crimes Compensation Board Appointment-Jeffrey Stubblefield Application and Resume 2.21.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
|
| HB330 ver A 2.16.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/16/2018 1:00:00 PM HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM HJUD 2/23/2018 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/26/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/12/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/14/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 330 |
| HB330 Transmittal Letter 2.16.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/16/2018 1:00:00 PM HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/12/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/14/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 330 |
| HB330 Opposing Document-UCM Letter 2.21.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/12/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/14/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 330 |
| HB330 Fiscal Note DNR-DOG 2.16.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/16/2018 1:00:00 PM HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/9/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/12/2018 1:00:00 PM HRES 3/14/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 330 |
| HB307 ver D 2.19.18.PDF |
HJUD 2/19/2018 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 307 |
| HB307 Sponsor Statement 2.19.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/19/2018 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 307 |
| HB307 Sectional Analysis ver D 2.19.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/19/2018 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 307 |
| HB307 Amendment #1 2.21.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 307 |
| HB307 Additional Document-Leg Legal Memo on Amendment #1 (D.1) 2.21.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 307 |
| HB307 Amendment #1 HJUD Final Vote 2.21.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 307 |
| HB307 Fiscal Note MVA-COM 2.19.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/19/2018 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 307 |
| HB307 Fiscal Note DPS-SWITS 2.19.18.pdf |
HJUD 2/19/2018 1:30:00 PM HJUD 2/21/2018 1:00:00 PM |
HB 307 |