Legislature(2015 - 2016)CAPITOL 120

04/08/2015 01:00 PM JUDICIARY

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 2:00 p.m. Today --
+ HJR 14 CALL FOR US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 14(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ HCR 4 US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION DELEGATES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHCR 4(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 30 MARIJUANA REG;CONT. SUBST;CRIMES;DEFENSES TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 123 ESTABLISH MARIJUANA CONTROL BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 123(JUD) Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 8, 2015                                                                                          
                           2:07 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Chair                                                                                          
Representative Wes Keller, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kurt Olson (alternate)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 123                                                                                                              
"An  Act establishing  the Marijuana  Control Board;  relating to                                                               
the powers  and duties of  the Marijuana Control  Board; relating                                                               
to the  appointment, removal, and  duties of the director  of the                                                               
Marijuana  Control  Board;  relating to  the  Alcoholic  Beverage                                                               
Control Board; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 123(JUD) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 14                                                                                                   
Making  application  to the  United  States  Congress to  call  a                                                               
convention of  the states to  propose a countermand  amendment to                                                               
the Constitution of  the United States as provided  under art. V,                                                               
Constitution of  the United States;  and urging  the legislatures                                                               
of the other 49 states to make the same application.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHJR 14(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 4                                                                                               
Relating to the  duties of delegates selected  by the legislature                                                               
to  attend  a convention  of  the  states  called under  art.  V,                                                               
Constitution  of the  United States,  to  consider a  countermand                                                               
amendment to the Constitution of  the United States; establishing                                                               
as a joint  committee of the legislature  the Delegate Credential                                                               
Committee and relating to the  duties of the committee; providing                                                               
for  an  oath  for  delegates and  alternates  to  a  countermand                                                               
amendment convention;  providing for a chair  and assistant chair                                                               
of the  state's countermand  amendment delegation;  providing for                                                               
the  duties   of  the  chair   and  assistant   chair;  providing                                                               
instructions  for the  selection of  a convention  president; and                                                               
providing  specific language  for  the  countermand amendment  on                                                               
which  the state's  convention delegates  are  authorized by  the                                                               
legislature to vote to approve.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHCR 4(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 123                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ESTABLISH MARIJUANA CONTROL BOARD                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/23/15       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/23/15       (H)       L&C, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
03/04/15       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/04/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/04/15       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/11/15       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/11/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/11/15       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/16/15       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/16/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/16/15       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/20/15       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/20/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/20/15       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/23/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/23/15       (H)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
03/23/15       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/23/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/23/15       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/27/15       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/27/15       (H)       Moved CSHB 123(L&C) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/27/15       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/30/15       (H)       L&C RPT CS(L&C) 1DP 3NR 3AM                                                                            
03/30/15       (H)       DP: OLSON                                                                                              
03/30/15       (H)       NR: TILTON, HUGHES, KITO                                                                               
03/30/15       (H)       AM: LEDOUX, JOSEPHSON, COLVER                                                                          
03/30/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/30/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/30/15       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
04/03/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
04/03/15       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/06/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
04/06/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/06/15       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
04/08/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HJR 14                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CALL FOR US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): HUGHES                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
02/11/15       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/11/15       (H)       STA, JUD                                                                                               
03/19/15       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/19/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/19/15       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/24/15       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/24/15       (H)       Moved CSHJR 14(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/24/15       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/25/15       (H)       STA RPT CS(STA) 3DP 4NR                                                                                
03/25/15       (H)       DP: VAZQUEZ, LYNN, KELLER                                                                              
03/25/15       (H)       NR:    TALERICO,   STUTES,    GRUENBERG,                                                               
                         KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                         
04/08/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HCR 4                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION DELEGATES                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): HUGHES                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
02/11/15       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/11/15       (H)       STA, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
03/19/15       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/19/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/19/15       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/24/15       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/24/15       (H)       Moved  CSHCR 4(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/24/15       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/25/15       (H)       STA RPT CS(STA) 3DP 4NR                                                                                
03/25/15       (H)       DP: VAZQUEZ, LYNN, KELLER                                                                              
03/25/15       (H)       NR:    TALERICO,   STUTES,    GRUENBERG,                                                               
                         KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                         
04/08/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MICAELA FOWLER, Legislative Liaison                                                                                             
Special Assistant to the Commissioner                                                                                           
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   During the  hearing on CSHB  123, testified                                                             
regarding changes in the CS and answered questions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CYNTHIA FRANKLIN, Director                                                                                                      
Alcoholic Beverage Control Board (ABC Board)                                                                                    
Department  of  Commerce,  Community,  and  Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED)                                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   During  the hearing  on CSHB  123, answered                                                             
questions regarding regulating marijuana like alcohol.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHELLY HUGHES                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented HJR 14,  and HCR 4, in  tandem as                                                             
the prime sponsor.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
STEWART CRUGER, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Shelley Hughes                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   During the hearings  on HJR 14, and  HCR 4,                                                             
presented a sectional analysis.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES KACPROWICZ, Executive Director                                                                                          
Citizen Initiatives and Countermand Amendment                                                                                   
Spruce Pine, North Carolina                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT:   During the hearings  on HJR 14, and  HCR 4,                                                             
offered testimony.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:07:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GABRIELLE  LEDOUX  called  the  House  Judiciary  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to order at  2:07 p.m.  Representatives Keller,                                                               
Lynn, Millett,  Claman, and  LeDoux were present  at the  call to                                                               
order.    Representatives Foster  and  Gruenberg  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in process.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
            HB 123-ESTABLISH MARIJUANA CONTROL BOARD                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
2:08:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 123, "An  Act establishing the  Marijuana Control                                                               
Board;  relating  to  the  powers and  duties  of  the  Marijuana                                                               
Control Board;  relating to the appointment,  removal, and duties                                                               
of the director  of the Marijuana Control Board;  relating to the                                                               
Alcoholic Beverage Control Board;  and providing for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:08:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  moved  to  adopt CSHB  123,  Version  29-                                                               
GH1110\P, Martin, 4/7/15,  as the working document.   There being                                                               
no objection Version P was before the committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:09:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICAELA  FOWLER, Legislative  Liaison, Special  Assistant to  the                                                               
Commissioner,   Office  of   the   Commissioner,  Department   of                                                               
Commerce,  Community, and  Economic Development,  said there  are                                                               
two changes  in Version  P responsive  to concerns  voiced during                                                               
the last hearing ...                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:09:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee  took an  at-ease from  2:09 to  2:10 p.m.,  due to                                                               
technical difficulties.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:10:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FOWLER referred  to [Sec.  2, AS  17.38.080(b)(3)], page  2,                                                               
line 17, which read:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          (3) one person currently residing in a rural                                                                          
     area;                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. FOWLER  advised that the  word "currently" has been  added to                                                               
the rural seat  and it is now required that  one person currently                                                               
residing in  a rural area  serve on the  board.  She  referred to                                                               
[Sec. 2, AS 17.38.080(g)(6)], page 3, lines 19-21, which read:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          (6) "rural area" means a community with a                                                                             
     population of  7,000 or less  that is not  connected by                                                                    
     road  or rail  to  Anchorage or  Fairbanks,  or with  a                                                                    
     population of 2,000  or less that is  connected by road                                                                    
     or rail to Anchorage or Fairbanks.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. FOWLER advised  that the definition of "rural  area" has been                                                               
changed  and it  is closely  related  to a  combination of  other                                                               
definitions of  "rural area" in  existing statute.   She referred                                                               
to [Sec. 3, AS 17.38.084(a)], page 4, lines 14-15, which read:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     (a) The board shall control the cultivation, manufacture,                                                                  
and sale of marijuana in the state. ...                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FOWLER  explained  it removes  the  word  "possession"  from                                                               
control of the board.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:12:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG referred  to an amendment Representative                                                               
Foster wanted.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  advised  that she  believes  the  CS  incorporated                                                               
Representative Foster's concerns.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER stated that Chair LeDoux was correct.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:13:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  requested a  copy of AS  17, and  a few                                                               
minutes to review.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:13:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:14:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. FOWLER responded to Representative  Gruenberg and referred to                                                               
[Version N, Sec. 2, AS  17.38.080(e)], page 2, lines 30-31, which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       (e) The rural member of the board shall reside or                                                                        
      have resided in a rural area for not fewer than 180                                                                       
     days within the five years preceding appointment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FOWLER  pointed  out  that  the  section  was  removed  when                                                               
"currently" was added to [Version P], Sec. 2, line 17.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG confirmed that is yet another change.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. FOWLER answered yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:14:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX said  the Ms. Fowler indicated  that "currently" had                                                               
been put into the CS.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  offered that  he  "just  wanted to  be                                                               
sure."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:15:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  moved to  adopt  Amendment  1, labeled  29-                                                               
GH1110\E.1,  Martin,  4/2/15,  which read  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, following line 8:                                                                                                  
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Sec. 4.  AS 17.38.100 is amended by  adding a new                                                                  
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
               (i)  A marijuana establishment may not be                                                                        
     registered under  this chapter  if a  person who  is an                                                                    
     owner,  officer, agent,  or employee  of the  marijuana                                                                    
     establishment has been convicted of                                                                                        
                    (1)  a felony and less than five years                                                                      
     have   elapsed   since   the   person's   unconditional                                                                    
     discharge from the conviction; or                                                                                          
                    (2)      a   misdemeanor   involving   a                                                                    
     controlled substance in the last three years."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX objected.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:15:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN advised  that  Amendment 1  proposes that  a                                                               
marijuana establishment may not  be registered under this chapter                                                               
if  a  person is  an  owner,  officer,  agent  or employee  of  a                                                               
marijuana establishment  and has been  convicted of a  felony and                                                               
less   than  five   years  have   elapsed   since  the   person's                                                               
unconditional  discharge from  the conviction,  or a  misdemeanor                                                               
involving  a controlled  substance within  the last  three years.                                                               
He stated  that felonies or  misdemeanors involving  a controlled                                                               
substance,  which   could  be   marijuana,  has   demonstrated  a                                                               
predilection not to  follow established law.  He  described it as                                                               
a state of mind, that the past  is too often the predictor of the                                                               
future, and the committee must be  cautious as it is breaking new                                                               
ground in  every aspect of  marijuana laws.   He stated  that the                                                               
committee must  be extremely  cautious in  how it  constructs the                                                               
laws and urged the committee's approval of the amendment.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:17:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  asked  Cynthia Franklin,  Micaela  Fowler,  and/or                                                               
Harriet  Milks to  explain their  view of  the amendment  and how                                                               
things are done with respect to the alcohol industry.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:17:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CYNTHIA  FRANKLIN,  Director,  Alcoholic Beverage  Control  Board                                                               
(ABC  Board), Department  of  Commerce,  Community, and  Economic                                                               
Development  (DCCED), responded  that with  regard to  alcohol in                                                               
Title 4,  there is 10  year look back  period on felonies  but no                                                               
outright  prohibition  on  individuals  with  felony  convictions                                                               
being  licensed for  purposes of  operating or  holding a  liquor                                                               
license.  She  advised that in the event the  person applying for                                                               
a  license has  been convicted  of a  felony within  the past  10                                                               
years  they must  appear before  the ABC  Board to  explain their                                                               
conviction, the board has the  discretion to grant the license in                                                               
spite of  the conviction or to  deny the license on  the basis of                                                               
the  conviction.   She noted  that  it is  a bit  more open  than                                                               
proposed  Amendment  1,  but  it is  a  different  substance  and                                                               
alcohol has not  recently been in the  Controlled Substances Act.                                                               
In fact,  she explained, marijuana  may remain in  the Controlled                                                               
Substances  Act  depending   upon  the  fate  of   bills  in  the                                                               
legislature.  She  stated that a clear  prohibition will decrease                                                               
board  time   spent  on  this   issue,  but  she   imagines  that                                                               
individuals who  plan to  apply for licenses  might have  more to                                                               
say about it in terms of their opinion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:19:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX asked  whether there  is anything  with respect  to                                                               
misdemeanors in the ABC Board.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN responded no.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX questioned  whether  the look  back provision  with                                                               
respect to felonies is in the statute or in regulation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN answered that it is in regulation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:19:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX surmised  that since this is offered  in the alcohol                                                               
industry  regulations, she  would  like  marijuana regulated  the                                                               
same as alcohol.  She said she will not withdraw her objection.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:20:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FRANKLIN  added  that  there is  a  prohibition  similar  to                                                               
proposed Amendment 1, in SB 62,  but she could not recall whether                                                               
the   bill  contains   a  prohibition   related  to   misdemeanor                                                               
convictions.     She  reiterated   that  the  five   year  felony                                                               
prohibition is present in the current version of SB 62.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:21:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  agreed that  it should be  under marijuana                                                               
regulations,  and questioned  whether the  condition of  CSHB 123                                                               
adequate  to   give  the   Marijuana  Control   Board  regulatory                                                               
authority  to create  the same  as the  ABC Board  has or  should                                                               
there be  a change  to the  bill if  desiring that  the Marijuana                                                               
Control Board has that authority.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN responded that the language is adequate.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  advised  that he  shares  Chair  LeDoux's                                                               
objection.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:22:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  referred to  time saved  for the  board by                                                               
having  these  parameters implies  that  the  10 year  look  back                                                               
period takes  a considerable  amount of time.   He  asked whether                                                               
Ms. Franklin  had to  make decisions  that were  controversial in                                                               
her look back experience.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FRANKLIN responded  that she  has only  been to  three board                                                               
meetings, and  there was an  applicant with a  felony conviction.                                                               
She advised that  she wouldn't say it takes  a significant amount                                                               
of time although  it does involve the board  going into executive                                                               
session  because an  individual's  criminal  history is  private.                                                               
Typically, she offered, because  the board discovers the criminal                                                               
convictions through  the Alaska  Safety Planning  and Empowerment                                                               
Network (ASPEN) security clearance  that the enforcement officers                                                               
have, and the authority the board  has to look at an individual's                                                               
criminal history who applies for  a license.  She reiterated that                                                               
board goes  into executive session  at the board meeting  for the                                                               
board to  discuss that history  with the applicant.   She further                                                               
reiterated that  it does  not take a  significant amount  of time                                                               
and  that it  add a  human element  to the  board process  in the                                                               
particular case she  observed.  It allowed the  board to consider                                                               
rehabilitation  efforts the  individual  had made  and  it was  a                                                               
controlled substance conviction  and was a long time  prior.  She                                                               
advised the  individual had circumstances  she wanted  to explain                                                               
to the board and the license she  was applying for was a beer and                                                               
wine  license at  a "hamburger/wings  joint," and  the board  was                                                               
able  to consider  the age  of  the conviction,  type of  license                                                               
applied for, and  weigh the various determinations  as opposed to                                                               
a  bright line  scheme where  the simple  fact of  the conviction                                                               
would  automatically  preempt  the  person from  holding  such  a                                                               
license.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:24:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER related that five  years and three years is                                                               
reasonable,  wherein comparing  five years  to ten  years is  not                                                               
apples  to apples.   He  remarked  that proposed  Amendment 1  is                                                               
good.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:24:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG stated that  when Chair LeDoux mentioned                                                               
some things that might be  issues for the regulatory authority to                                                               
consider,  he does  not want  the  record to  reflect that  those                                                               
would be  the only issues.   He  offered that other  issues might                                                               
include whether a person would have  a right to appear before the                                                               
board,  and also  whether this  activity may  have occurred  in a                                                               
different  jurisdiction  with  different  laws.    He  offered  a                                                               
scenario  of a  person with  a little  marijuana in  a baggie  in                                                               
their car glove  compartment charged within the  last three years                                                               
as to  whether that person  should be  disqualified.  He  said he                                                               
agrees with taking it to the regulatory authority.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:25:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN responded  to Representative  Gruenberg that                                                               
prior to this  initiative a small baggie of  marijuana would have                                                               
been illegal which showed a predilection to not obeying the law.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG answered that it depends upon the case.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:26:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  referred to  the  alcohol  context and  questioned                                                               
whether the  prohibition is  applied to  simple employees  of the                                                               
bar or just someone with a license.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN replied that it is  the applicant for the license or                                                               
applicant for the transfer.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  surmised  that  it  would  not  affect  hiring  an                                                               
employee with an Alcohol Education Card (TAM) for example.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN answered, correct.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:27:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  offered a further  note in support  of the                                                               
regulatory approach in that the  legislature wants people who now                                                               
may  be  in  the  marijuana  growing  business  to  register  and                                                               
participate.   He stated he  would rather  have a person,  with a                                                               
misdemeanor  conviction  for  marijuana possession  in  the  last                                                               
three years,  licensed and  identified rather  than being  in the                                                               
black market.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:28:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  referred to  Ms. Franklin  testimony wherein                                                               
she  stated the  board would  go into  executive session  because                                                               
convictions are  private.  He questioned  whether the convictions                                                               
are  really private  in that  anyone can  go on  the internet  or                                                               
courthouse to locate convictions of anything.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN answered that it depends  on whether it is an Alaska                                                               
conviction  and in  Courtview then  anyone can  see it.   In  the                                                               
event it is a federal  conviction or out-of-state conviction that                                                               
is  located on  ASPIN, it  is not  viewable by  the public.   The                                                               
board is governed by processes  created in regulation in terms of                                                               
how to  treat the criminal  history during public meetings.   She                                                               
explained  that the  process is  that an  applicant applies,  the                                                               
ASPIN history  is run,  and if  there is an  item on  the history                                                               
that would cause the applicant  to fall under that regulation the                                                               
information  is shared  solely with  the director,  and then  the                                                               
board in  executive session  versus being  on the  board's public                                                               
agenda.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:29:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  opined  that   the  state  is  entering  an                                                               
entirely new ground and in the  event there is an error it should                                                               
be  on the  side of  caution.   He offered  that instead  of five                                                               
years  for  felony it  could  have  ten  or  twenty, but  he  was                                                               
attempting to  reach a  reasonable compromise  and the  same goes                                                               
with a misdemeanor as it could  have been any number of years and                                                               
three years  was chosen as  reasonable for  controlled substances                                                               
only, not for any other misdemeanors.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:30:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Keller  and Lynn                                                               
voted  in  favor  of Amendment  1.    Representatives  Gruenberg,                                                               
Foster,   Millett,  Claman,   and  LeDoux,   voted  against   it.                                                               
Therefore, Amendment 1 failed to pass by a vote of 2-5.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:31:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  quiered whether  this  bill  gives the  board  the                                                               
authority to  create whatever  license or  license type  it deems                                                               
necessary in order to effectively regulate the industry.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN advised that it does.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:31:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  questioned   whether  the   Marijuana                                                               
Control Board will have the authority to create crimes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN  responded "No," that  by regulation the  board will                                                               
not be  creating crimes,  but if  through regulation  if criminal                                                               
activity is identified  there can be some  penalty work performed                                                               
by  regulation.   In terms  of creating  offenses and  putting an                                                               
individual  into jail  the answer  is no,  as obviously  AS 17.38                                                               
gives  whichever regulatory  board that  has authority  over this                                                               
substance the ability  to create civil penalty  fines relating to                                                               
violation of the rules created by the board, she explained.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:32:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  paraphrased  Ms.  Franklin's  previous                                                               
statement  that  the board  may  be  able  to do  something  with                                                               
respect to criminal penalties.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN replied that the  statement is based on a discussion                                                               
pre-session with  the board's attorneys  in terms of how  far the                                                               
regulations might go if no amendments  to AS 17.38 occurred.  She                                                               
said she would have to refresh  her memory on that before putting                                                               
it on the  record.  Generally speaking, she  offered, with regard                                                               
to Title  4, the regulations  clarify statutes and she  knows the                                                               
board cannot create crimes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:33:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  requested  that  a  written  follow-up                                                               
answer to his question be delivered  to the committee and in that                                                               
manner he could determine if there is a problem.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN responded  that she is willing to  prepare a written                                                               
follow-up.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:34:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER moved  to report CSHB 123  out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There  being no  objection, CSHB  123(JUD) was  reported                                                               
from the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:34:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:34 to 2:39 p.m.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           HJR 14-CALL FOR US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION                                                                        
           HCR  4-US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION DELEGATES                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:39:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 14, Making application  to the United                                                               
States Congress to  call a convention of the states  to propose a                                                               
countermand amendment  to the Constitution  of the  United States                                                               
as provided under art. V,  Constitution of the United States; and                                                               
urging the legislatures  of the other 49 states to  make the same                                                               
application, and  HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO.  4, Relating to                                                               
the duties of  delegates selected by the legislature  to attend a                                                               
convention of  the states  called under  art. V,  Constitution of                                                               
the United  States, to  consider a  countermand amendment  to the                                                               
Constitution  of  the  United States;  establishing  as  a  joint                                                               
committee of  the legislature  the Delegate  Credential Committee                                                               
and relating  to the  duties of the  committee; providing  for an                                                               
oath  for delegates  and alternates  to  a countermand  amendment                                                               
convention;  providing for  a chair  and assistant  chair of  the                                                               
state's  countermand  amendment  delegation;  providing  for  the                                                               
duties of  the chair and assistant  chair; providing instructions                                                               
for  the  selection  of a  convention  president;  and  providing                                                               
specific  language for  the countermand  amendment  on which  the                                                               
state's convention  delegates are  authorized by  the legislature                                                               
to vote to approve.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:39:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHELLY HUGHES, Alaska  State Legislature, said she                                                               
will present HJR 14, and HCR 4,  in tandem.  She then referred to                                                               
Article V, of the United States Constitution, which read:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The Congress, whenever two thirds  of both houses shall                                                                    
     deem  it necessary,  shall propose  amendments to  this                                                                    
     Constitution,   or,   on   the   application   of   the                                                                    
     legislatures  of  two  thirds of  the  several  states,                                                                    
     shall  call  a  convention  for  proposing  amendments,                                                                    
     which, in  either case, shall  be valid to  all intents                                                                    
     and  purposes,  as  part  of  this  Constitution,  when                                                                    
     ratified by  the legislatures of  three fourths  of the                                                                    
     several  states, or  by  conventions  in three  fourths                                                                    
     thereof, as the  one or the other  mode of ratification                                                                    
     may  be  proposed by  the  Congress;  provided that  no                                                                    
     amendment  which may  be  made prior  to  the year  one                                                                    
     thousand eight  hundred and eight  shall in  any manner                                                                    
     affect  the  first  and fourth  clauses  in  the  ninth                                                                    
     section  of  the  first article;  and  that  no  state,                                                                    
     without  its consent,  shall be  deprived of  its equal                                                                    
     suffrage in the Senate.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES  described the resolutions as  an Article V                                                               
effort and  stated that the  word "countermand" means veto.   She                                                               
advised  this  would  give state  legislatures  veto  power  over                                                               
certain decisions  being decided upon  in Washington, D.C.,  if a                                                               
certain number of  states agree.  She pointed out  that HJR 14 is                                                               
the  call  to  the  Congress,  and  HCR  4  gives  the  delegates                                                               
instructions  and  contains the  actual  language  that would  be                                                               
added at the  bottom of the Constitution, which  would be Article                                                               
XXVIII if  it were to be  amended.  She explained  that calling a                                                               
convention  requires two-thirds  of  the states  (34 states),  to                                                               
ratify  an amendment  it takes  three-fourths of  the states  (38                                                               
states).   She  remarked that  within this  countermand amendment                                                               
there is a  mechanism to give the states veto  power over federal                                                               
decisions,  and the  amendment itself  takes three-fifths  of the                                                               
states (30  states) to veto a  federal decision.  She  pointed to                                                               
the problems Alaska  has with federal overreach and  that she has                                                               
been surprised with how often on  the House floor a resolution is                                                               
passed  with the  theme of  overreach.   She  described those  as                                                               
important  statement made,  but questioned  whether it  moved the                                                               
needle to restore  the balance of power that  Alaskans request be                                                               
restored.   She stated these  resolutions are an  actionable step                                                               
in a  long Article V process  as other states would  have to come                                                               
on board in  order to do this.   She described it  as a necessary                                                               
step and  is important for  Alaska to  take in that  the founders                                                               
put it  in the Constitution at  the time.  She  offered that when                                                               
this nation  was formed  the states  initially came  together and                                                               
formed  the Articles  of Confederation.    As it  turns out,  she                                                               
explained,  the states  retained too  much power  and within  the                                                               
U.S. Constitution is  the idea of a proper  balance between state                                                               
and federal  government.   Issues occurred  over the  decades and                                                               
centuries,  including  the power  to  tax  and once  the  federal                                                               
government held the purse strings it  gained a lot of power.  She                                                               
offered that the  resolutions are not partisan as  they are about                                                               
restoring  the power  between the  state and  federal government.                                                               
She noted there has been concern  that the U.S. Constitution is a                                                               
sacred document so  there has been apprehension  about opening it                                                               
up  and having  a convention.   She  related that  this is  not a                                                               
constitution convention  as it is  a single  amendment convention                                                               
and sideboards  would prevent  it from being  any other  topic so                                                               
the Constitution would not be unraveled.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:47:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEWART  CRUGER,  Staff,  Representative Shelley  Hughes,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature, said  HJR 14 is the State of  Alaska's call on                                                               
Congress  for an  amendment convention  for the  sole purpose  of                                                               
sending  the  countermand  amendment   back  to  the  states  for                                                               
ratification as  is written  in the first  Resolved.   The second                                                               
Resolve states that  the U.S. Congress will  convene a convention                                                               
within 60 days  after the day it receives the  34th call for that                                                               
convention  from state  legislatures.   The third  Resolve states                                                               
that this  is a  continuing application and  it will  remain with                                                               
Congress  until the  34th application  is received.   The  fourth                                                               
Resolve encourages legislatures of the  other 49 states to pass a                                                               
similar  resolution.    With  regard   to  HCR  4,  Resolved  one                                                               
authorizes the  legislature to appoint  and summon  delegates for                                                               
the  amendment convention.   Resolved  two gives  the legislature                                                               
authority  to  decide  the qualifications  and  total  number  of                                                               
delegates to  send to the  convention.  Resolved three  gives the                                                               
legislature the  ability to  add or  remove delegates.   Resolved                                                               
four  provides  parameters  and   instructions  for  the  state's                                                               
delegates at  the convention and prohibits  delegates from voting                                                               
for any other amendment outside  the countermand amendment at the                                                               
convention.  Resolved five reserves  the countermand amendment as                                                               
the  only amendment  for consideration  for  ratification by  the                                                               
legislatures.    Resolved six  states  that  upon  a call  for  a                                                               
convention by 34 states this  resolved allows for establishing of                                                               
the delegate  credential committee within the  Alaska Legislature                                                               
with  duties  listed  in  Section (A)  later  in  this  document.                                                               
Specifically, the  Speaker of the House  of Representatives shall                                                               
appoint  three  members from  the  House,  one being  a  minority                                                               
caucus member.   The President of the Senate  shall appoint three                                                               
members of the Senate, one being a minority member.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:49:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRUGER pointed  out  that Resolved  seven  provides for  the                                                               
replacement  procedure for  members  of  the delegate  credential                                                               
committee.   Resolved eight allows  for a selection  of co-chairs                                                               
of the  delegate credential committee,  one being from  the House                                                               
and  one from  the Senate.   Resolved  nine establishes  when the                                                               
delegate   credential  committee   can   meet.     Resolved   ten                                                               
acknowledges   that  the   delegate  credential   committee  will                                                               
continue  until  the first  day  of  the thirtieth  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature  and   also  requests  that  it   be  reevaluated  by                                                               
subsequent  legislatures.    Resolved eleven  requests  that  the                                                               
delegate credential  committee be considered  for reestablishment                                                               
during the  thirtieth Alaska State Legislature.   Resolved twelve                                                               
provides  for removal  and replacement  procedure for  members of                                                               
the credential committee in that  members are removed or replaced                                                               
by the presiding officer that  appointed them.  Resolved thirteen                                                               
provides  for the  duties of  the delegate  credential committee.                                                               
He advised  that this is  a majority vote on  decisions, official                                                               
facilitator  for  the   legislature,  appointment  of  delegates,                                                               
provide  a  committee report  on  selected  delegates, appoint  a                                                               
chair and  assistant chair  of the  delegation, properly  vet and                                                               
confirm delegates,  issue convention passes to  delegates, notify                                                               
legislature  of financial  needs  of  the convention,  administer                                                               
oaths to  the delegates, alternates, chair,  and assistant chair,                                                               
monitor  activities  of  Alaska's  delegation,  submit  quarterly                                                               
reports   to   the   legislature    on   events,   progress   and                                                               
recommendations for  the convention,  and authority  to recommend                                                               
removal  of  a   delegate  or  alternate  for   approval  by  the                                                               
legislature.   Resolved  thirteen,  Section B,  provides for  the                                                               
duties  of  the  chair  of  Alaska's  state  delegation  and  the                                                               
president  of the  convention.    He offered  that  the chair  is                                                               
responsible  for communicating  with other  state delegations  to                                                               
open  convention  for  business, identifying  other  legislatures                                                               
that have approved the delegate  resolution, build consensus with                                                               
at  least  26  state  delegations  to  require  that  each  state                                                               
delegation at the convention has  only one vote, require a simple                                                               
majority vote  at all roll calls,  nominate convention officials,                                                               
require  a quorum  of  26  states to  conduct  business, build  a                                                               
consensus  of  at   least  26  states  to   support  sending  the                                                               
countermand  amendment for  ratification,  work  to conclude  the                                                               
convention in  21 days  or no  longer than  180 days,  nominate a                                                               
candidate for  convention president  from Alaska's  delegation or                                                               
work  to  elect  a  president  from  delegate  resolution  state.                                                               
Resolve thirteen,  Section B, Subsection  J, under duties  of the                                                               
Alaska delegation  chair include supporting the  following duties                                                               
of the  convention president: securing  a vote for  this delegate                                                               
resolution to be  the rules of order at the  convention, focus on                                                               
the purpose  of sending the  countermand for ratification  by the                                                               
states, request security measures  as needed, oversee installment                                                               
of  officers  at  the convention,  establish  convention  agenda,                                                               
provide equal time for floor  discussion for all states, prohibit                                                               
introduction  of any  other subject  other  than the  countermand                                                               
amendment, call for  a vote for sending  countermand amendment to                                                               
the states, report to 50 state legislatures ...                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:53:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX asked  Mr. Cruger  to point  out the  highlights as                                                               
opposed to simply reading from the resolution.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRUGER stated  that the  above addresses  the duties  of the                                                               
president of  the entire convention.   Resolved thirteen, Section                                                               
C  addresses the  duties and  responsibilities of  the convention                                                               
delegates.   Resolved  thirteen, Section  D addresses  the duties                                                               
and responsibilities of delegate  alternates.  Resolved thirteen,                                                               
Section E  provides the  text of the  countermand amendment.   He                                                               
advised that Mike  Schechter, from the Department  of Law Charles                                                               
Kaeprowiez, from Citizens Initiatives, on line for questions.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX opened public testimony                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:55:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES KACPROWICZ,  Executive Director, Citizen  Initiatives and                                                               
Countermand Amendment, said  he has worked on  amendments for the                                                               
U.   S.   Constitution   either   through   Congress   or   state                                                               
legislatures,  under  Article   V,  for  over  40   years.    The                                                               
difference  he  proposes is  the  idea  that state  legislatures,                                                               
under  Article V,  are sovereign  and are  the final  law in  all                                                               
constitutional  matters.   He  highlighted  that  [America] is  a                                                               
constitutional republic which  is why there is  a constitution to                                                               
protect  that.   The U.S.  Constitution, Article  IV, Section  4,                                                               
guarantees  every state  a republican  form  of government  which                                                               
means  every state  has one  vote, regardless  of the  population                                                               
which goes into the convention as  well.  He highlighted that the                                                               
biggest problem  existing during the constitution  convention and                                                               
before  deliberations started,  was  sovereignty.   George  Witt,                                                               
delegate,   notable   attorney,   professor   and   distinguished                                                               
gentleman at the time, headed up  a committee and put eight rules                                                               
together.      He  described   an   important   rule  being   the                                                               
recommendation that each state has  an equal vote, the convention                                                               
agreed and went  forward as a republican form of  convention.  He                                                               
stated  that this  issue has  to be  settled at  every Article  V                                                               
Convention,  and   noted  that  currently  there   could  be  534                                                               
politically charged  delegates.  He  pointed out that  the states                                                               
will probably be allotted the  same number of representatives the                                                               
states have  in Congress.  He  said the point to  address here is                                                               
to ascertain  that sovereignty is retained  by state legislatures                                                               
as  sovereignty trumps  legal  precedent, convention  experience,                                                               
historical events,  and is  the one  thing the  legislatures must                                                               
not  advocate as  if they  do, they  will not  get it  back.   He                                                               
stated that  every Article  V Convention has  to be  protected so                                                               
rather  than letting  the 534  delegates decide  the matter,  the                                                               
state legislatures are the deliberative  body in deciding matters                                                               
related  to the  states  including  how to  use  Article  V.   He                                                               
related   that  as   the  deliberative   body,  the   legislature                                                               
determines what these delegates do  at the convention as they are                                                               
ambassadors and not  free agents.  As a result,  he remarked, the                                                               
outcome  of  that  convention  will be  successful  and  will  be                                                               
completed in approximately seven days.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:01:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KACPROWICZ advised  that the amendment itself  will allow the                                                               
State of  Alaska to address some  of the most critical  issues it                                                               
has  to currently  deal with.   He  pointed out  that Nevada  has                                                               
approximately 82  percent of its  land controlled by  the federal                                                               
government and Alaska has approximately  67 percent.  He reminded                                                               
the  committee  Alaska  recently   received  an  Executive  Order                                                               
locking up  more land and  preventing Alaska from using  the land                                                               
for whatever purposes it chooses.   The Countermand Amendment can                                                               
address that  issue as there  are 38 energy producing  states and                                                               
only  30 Countermand  Amendments  are necessary.   Should  Alaska                                                               
decide to countermand  a particular EPA, or BLM  ruling, it would                                                               
send  it to  the appropriate  federal agencies  together with  an                                                               
invitation to  the other 49  states inviting them  to countermand                                                               
the same  law.  He opined  that Alaska will more  than likely get                                                               
the  30 states  necessary just  on  the issue  of energy.   As  a                                                               
result, it  will put the  state legislatures in a  respected role                                                               
by the federal government, he explained.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:02:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  closed public testimony  after ascertaining  no one                                                               
further wished to testify.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:03:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN said  the idea  of trying  to make  it the                                                               
framework in  which states can  take up certain acts  of Congress                                                               
may have  some validity, but  advised that this  proposal, unless                                                               
it was  modified, probably goes too  far.  For example,  page 11,                                                               
on CSHCR 4, the provisions allowing  a state's vote to overturn a                                                               
judicial decision as  well as the U.S. Senate  action approving a                                                               
treaty are both  going farther than is appropriate in  terms of a                                                               
state's  role   in  America's   constitutional  democracy.     He                                                               
described it as a positive idea  that needs refining before it is                                                               
ready for prime time.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:04:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER stated  that generally that this  is a good                                                               
effort and there are many Article  V's out there with low risk to                                                               
the  Alaska State  Legislature.   He  referred to  the Article  V                                                               
effort passed last  year on the balanced budget  amendment that 4                                                               
states  have now  joined  and that  the effort  takes  time.   He                                                               
explained that  he has been  involved with the Assembly  of State                                                               
Legislators which is  a national group of  legislators working on                                                               
approximately the same thing as  the countermand process, but the                                                               
effort there is  to attempt to come up with  the rules and agenda                                                               
for the first convention.  He  pointed out that there are several                                                               
Article V's out there, and they  all help Alaska because they are                                                               
raising awareness  that states have  the option of  using Article                                                               
V, which was intended for states to use.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:05:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  moved  to  report CSHJR  14(STA)  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.  There being  no objection, CSHJR 14(STA) moved out                                                               
of the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:05:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:05 to 3:08 p.m.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:08:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  moved to report  CSHCR 4 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There being no objection, CSHCR 4 moved out of the House                                                                
Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:09:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:09 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HCR4 Fiscal Note, LAA.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HCR 4
HCR4 Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HCR 4
HCR4 Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HCR 4
HCR4 Support Document Charles Kacprowicz Commentary.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HCR 4
HCR4 Support Document, Natelson Report.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HCR 4
HCR4 Support Document, New Mexico Rep. Herrell.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HCR 4
HCR4 Ver N.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HCR 4
HCR4, HJR14 Support Document - emails.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14
HJR14 Fiscal Note, LAA.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14
HJR14 Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14
HJR14 Support Document, Countermand Amendment Text.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14
HJR14 Support Document, Louisiana.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14
HJR14 Support Document, New Hampshire.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14
HJR14 Support Document, New Mexico Rep. Herrell.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14
HJR14 Support Document, New Mexico.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14
HJR14 Support Document, North Dakota Rep. Fehr.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14
HJR14 ver N.pdf HJUD 4/8/2015 1:00:00 PM
HJR 14