03/13/2025 03:15 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES
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| HB64 | |
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| += | HB 70 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE
March 13, 2025
3:18 p.m.
DRAFT
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Genevieve Mina, Chair
Representative Andrew Gray
Representative Zack Fields
Representative Donna Mears
Representative Mike Prax
Representative Justin Ruffridge
Representative Rebecca Schwanke
MEMBERS ABSENT
All members present
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE BILL NO. 27
"An Act relating to medical care for major emergencies."
- MOVED CSHB 27(HSS) OUT OF COMMITTEE
HOUSE BILL NO. 70
"An Act relating to emergency medical services for operational
canines; relating to the powers, duties, and liability of
emergency medical technicians and mobile intensive care
paramedics; relating to the practice of veterinary medicine; and
providing for an effective date."
- HEARD & HELD
HOUSE BILL NO. 64
"An Act relating to the surrender of infants; and providing for
an effective date."
- HEARD & HEL
D
HOUSE BILL NO. 27
"An Act relating to medical care for major emergencies."
- MOVED CSHB 27(HSS) OUT OF COMMITTEE
HOUSE BILL NO. 70
"An Act relating to emergency medical services for operational
canines; relating to the powers, duties, and liability of
emergency medical technicians and mobile intensive care
paramedics; relating to the practice of veterinary medicine; and
providing for an effective date."
- HEARD & HELD
HOUSE BILL NO. 64
"An Act relating to the surrender of infants; and providing for
an effective date."
- HEARD & HELD
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HB 27
SHORT TITLE: MEDICAL MAJOR EMERGENCIES
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) MINA
01/22/25 (H) PREFILE RELEASED 1/10/25
01/22/25 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/22/25 (H) HSS, FIN
02/18/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
02/18/25 (H) Heard & Held
02/18/25 (H) MINUTE(HSS)
03/13/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
BILL: HB 70
SHORT TITLE: EMERGENCY MED SVCS; OPERATIONAL CANINES
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) SCHRAGE
01/27/25 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/27/25 (H) HSS, L&C
02/18/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
02/18/25 (H) Heard & Held
02/18/25 (H) MINUTE(HSS)
03/13/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
BILL: HB 64
SHORT TITLE: SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) TOMASZEWSKI
01/24/25 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/24/25 (H) HSS, JUD
03/13/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
BILL: HB 27
SHORT TITLE: MEDICAL MAJOR EMERGENCIES
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) MINA
01/22/25 (H) PREFILE RELEASED 1/10/25
01/22/25 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/22/25 (H) HSS, FIN
02/18/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
02/18/25 (H) Heard & Held
02/18/25 (H) MINUTE(HSS)
03/13/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
BILL: HB 70
SHORT TITLE: EMERGENCY MED SVCS; OPERATIONAL CANINES
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) SCHRAGE
01/27/25 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/27/25 (H) HSS, L&C
02/18/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
02/18/25 (H) Heard & Held
02/18/25 (H) MINUTE(HSS)
03/13/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
BILL: HB 64
SHORT TITLE: SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) TOMASZEWSKI
01/24/25 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
01/24/25 (H) HSS, JUD
03/13/25 (H) HSS AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106
WITNESS REGISTER
MICHAEL LEVY, MD
Eagle River, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions during the hearing on HB
27.
GENE WISEMAN, Section Chief
Rural Community Health Systems
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions during the hearing on HB
27.
REPRESENTATIVE CALVIN SCHRAGE
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: As prime sponsor, presented HB 70.
BRIAN WEBB, Paramedic and EMS Educator
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 70.
RACHEL BERNGARTT, DVM, JD
Board of Veterinary Examiners
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the hearing on HB 70.
MCKAYLA DICK, DVM, Member at Large
Alaska Veterinary Medical Association
North Pole, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to HB 70.
KATRINA BACKUS, DVM
North Pole Veterinary Hospital
North Pole, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to HB 70.
SEAN MCPECK, DVM, CEO
Tier 1 Veterinary Medical Center
Palmer, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 70.
MARY ANN HOLLICK, DVM
Eagle River, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the hearing on HB 70.
MARK STIGAR, Former President
Alaska Search and Rescue Association
Palmer, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the hearing on HB 70.
MICHAEL LEVY, MD
State of Alaska Emergency Medical Services
Eagle River, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the hearing on HB 70.
BRITTANY TURNER, representing self
North Pole, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to HB 70.
SCOTT LUNA, Paramedic Firefighter
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 70.
PAMELA SAMASH, representing self
Nenana, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 70.
DAVID GOFF, Staff
Representative Frank Tomaszewski
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented the sectional analysis for HB 64
on behalf of Representative Tomaszewski, prime sponsor, and
answered questions regarding HB 64.
DOUGLAS SCHRAGE, Fire Chief
Anchorage Fire Department
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of HB 64.
JULIE LYNETTE CONDELL, Lead 911 Dispatcher
Anchorage Fire Department
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the hearing on HB 64.
LONNY MARNEY, Council Member
City of Fairbanks
Fairbanks, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during the hearing on HB 64.
MATTHEW THOMAS, Nurse Consultant II
Health Facilities Licensing & Certification
Division of Healthcare Services
Department of Health
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding HB 64 as a
subject matter expert.
CARLA ERICKSON, Chief Assistant Attorney General
Child Protection Section
Civil Division (Anchorage)
Department of Law
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding HB 64.
ACTION NARRATIVE
3:18:49 PM
CHAIR GENEVIEVE MINA called the House Health and Social Services
Standing Committee meeting to order at 3:18 p.m.
Representatives Ruffridge, Schwanke, Mears, Fields, and Gray
were present at the call to order. Representative Prax arrived
as the meeting was in progress.
HB 27-MEDICAL MAJOR EMERGENCIES
HB 27-MEDICAL MAJOR EMERGENCIES
3:19:30 PM
CHAIR MINA announced that the first order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 27 "An Act relating to medical care for major
emergencies."
CHAIR MINA announced that subject experts are present on the
line and prepared to answer committee questions on HB 27.
3:20:19 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY asked what the stroke burden is in Alaska
and how much that burden could be reduced if stroke response
time were improved.
3:20:46 PM
MICHAEL LEVY, MD, responded that he does not have statistics on
the stroke burden in Alaska and confirmed that the stroke burden
could be avoided if timely care and state-of-the-art
interventions were taken.
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY asked how many hospitals in Alaska can
administer thrombolytic drugs within a few hours of someone
having a stroke.
DR. LEVY responded that he does not know the number of hospitals
prepared to provide "clot-busting drugs" for acute strokes. He
said that he believes that a significant majority of the
hospitals that have computerized axial tomography (CAT) scans
can provide clot-busting drugs. He described the criteria
needed to provide these drugs to a patient.
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY asked how many centers across Alaska can
administer those thrombolytic drugs. He asked for clarity on
how HB 27 could help reduce the stroke burden on Alaska.
DR. LEVY responded that currently Anchorage is the only location
where certain stroke therapies are available. He said that HB
27 would hopefully ensure that other outlying facilities could
receive the necessary education, training, and to provide that
therapy to more patients.
3:26:12 PM
GENE WISEMAN, Section Chief, Rural Community Health Systems,
added that Alaska has 13 level 4 trauma centers and he suspects
that all of those centers have CAT scans, which are needed
before administering fibrinolytic drugs.
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY referred to a study from the Journal of
Stroke and Cerebrovascular Disease which showed that the more
prescriptive legislation regarding this issue is, the better the
outcomes. He said that if the state required thrombolytics at
every center that has a CAT scan, that would ensure the right
treatment is on hand at all the places where this treatment
could be administered. He asked if there currently are
thrombolytics at every center with a CAT scan.
3:28:04 PM
MR. WISEMAN responded that he believes most hospitals do carry
thrombolytics. He also emphasized the importance of
administering these drugs in a timely fashion.
3:29:29 PM
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY asked emphasized that preventing strokes is
the best way to prevent deaths from strokes.
DR. LEVY responded that the financial and emotional burdens from
strokes are immense. He said that any intervention to prevent
such misery and financial burden would be a huge win.
3:31:30 PM
The committee took a brief at ease at 3:31 p.m.
3:31:56 PM
CHAIR MINA opened public testimony on HB 27. After ascertaining
that there was no one who wished to testify, she closed public
testimony.
3:32:27 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE moved to adopt Amendment 1 to HB 27,
labeled 34-LS0277\A.2, A. Radford, 3/10/25, which read as
follows:
Page 2, following line 5:
Insert a new bill section to read:
"* Sec. 2. AS 18.08.082 is amended by adding a new
subsection to read:
(d) The commissioner may establish special
designations in regulation for varying levels of care
for major emergencies provided by a medical facility
certified under (a)(3) of this section. The
designations shall be based on nationally recognized
standards and procedures."
Renumber the following bill section accordingly.
CHAIR MINA objected for purposes of discussion.
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE explained Amendment 1. He stated that
the proposed amendment would align current statute to allow for
special designations for facilities that offer heart attack and
stroke care, like how that trauma care facilities are certified.
He said that there is a need to be able to recognize the
organizations that produce high-level care for heart attack and
stroke patients and that want to take that designation on with a
nationally recognized standard.
CHAIR MINA asked Mr. Wiseman how Amendment 1 would work
functionally with the current operations in the Office of
Emergency Medical Services (EMS).
MR. WISEMAN responded that Amendment 1 would require that the
trauma systems unit within his section define and identify a
nationally recognized credentialing body or bodies off which to
base its criteria. He said there would be committees formed of
subject matter experts that would validate that centers meet the
criteria to be identified as a stroke or heart attack center.
3:36:54 PM
CHAIR MINA asked if "replicating" would mean continuing the
current trauma systems unit or creating a new unit. She also
asked if another position control number (PCN), in addition to
the PCN included in the bill, would be needed to conduct the
systems unit.
MR. WISEMAN responded that the trauma systems unit currently
lacks the bandwidth, but an additional employee, described in HB
27, would be able to coordinate the additional workload created
by HB 27. He added that a database would be needed to track the
data of patients that would be put into the registry system from
varying hospitals.
3:38:18 PM
CHAIR MINA removed her objection. There being no further
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.
3:38:38 PM
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS moved to report HB 27, as amended, out of
committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying
fiscal notes. There being no objection, CSHB 27(HSS) was
reported out of the House Health and Social Services Standing
Committee.
3:39:04 PM
The committee took a brief at-ease at 3:39 p.m.
HB 70-EMERGENCY MED SVCS; OPERATIONAL CANINES
HB 70-EMERGENCY MED SVCS; OPERATIONAL CANINES
3:39:11 PM
CHAIR MINA announced that the next order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 70 "An Act relating to emergency medical services
for operational canines; relating to the powers, duties, and
liability of emergency medical technicians and mobile intensive
care paramedics; relating to the practice of veterinary
medicine; and providing for an effective date."
3:41:14 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CALVIN SCHRAGE, Alaska State Legislature, as
prime sponsor, provided a brief recap of HB 70.
3:42:02 PM
CHAIR MINA announced invited testimony.
3:42:11 PM
BRIAN WEBB, Paramedic and EMS Educator, testified in support of
HB 70. He described his medical experience and his experience
with canine care. He shared the story of a state trooper canine
who was fatally shot in 2017, explaining that although emergency
medical service (EMS) personnel were available, they had no
authority to assist. He emphasized the scarce veterinary
resources available in Alaska. He also said that HB 70 would
allow for training that would fit within continuing education
requirements for EMS. He compared emergency medications for
canines to pediatric patients. He said that HB 70 would address
low frequency, high acuity canine trauma events.
3:46:26 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked if canine services that would be
provided by EMS would need to be approved by the EMS medical
director.
MR. WEBB confirmed that the EMS medical director would need to
designate authority to provide canine services.
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked if approval by the EMS medical
director to provide services is implied as an EMT.
MR. WEBB responded that standing orders and protocol give EMS
providers their authority to practice, which is mentioned in HB
70.
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked about the need for a veterinarian
to approve EMS canine services under HB 70.
MR. WEBB responded that the EMS medical director approves
standing orders and protocols.
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked if it is true that the "dosing
and care for operational canines is virtually identical to
pediatric patients." He said he believes that statement is
mostly untrue.
MR. WEBB responded with an example of medication whose dosage
and concentration is the same for pediatric and canine patients
as an emergency medication.
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked about the training required to
provide emergency medical services to operational canines and
what that training cost would be.
MR. WEBB responded that training is all based on the Canine
Tactical Emergency Care Course, developed by the US Military.
He described the program and said that the cost would depend on
the scope of practice of the services being provided in that
training.
3:55:12 PM
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS asked if there is a continuing education
requirement for EMS providers and if this course would help
fulfill those requirements.
MR. WEBB responded that this course would be rolled into an
annual training cycle within the services that opted in for
canine services. He said there is not a recertification
standard nationally.
3:56:52 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE asked how many service canines have been
injured in recent years.
MR. WEBB responded that two operational canines have been
injured in recent years in Alaska.
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE asked about what the reporting
requirements for administering Schedule II drugs would be under
HB 70.
MR. WEBB responded that he reached out to the regional Drug
Enforcement Administration (DEA) of Seattle to ask them a
similar question regarding controlled substances. He said that
the DEA responded that there would be no changes necessary to
the existing processes for reporting controlled substances.
4:00:45 PM
CHAIR MINA opened public testimony on HB 70.
4:01:12 PM
RACHEL BERNGARTT, DVM, JD, Board of Veterinary Examiners, said
the board does not have an official position statement on HB 70.
She offered clarification on parts of Mr. Webb's testimony that
she believed were misleading. She said that the committee
should consider the potential liability for veterinarians
regarding HB 70. She emphasized several issues she believes
must be addressed regarding HB 70.
4:05:58 PM
MCKAYLA DICK, DVM, Member at Large, Alaska Veterinary Medical
Association, testified in opposition to HB 70. She recommended
the formation of an emergency veterinary advisory committee or a
task force where veterinarians, emergency medical technicians
(EMTs), and paramedics can collaborate on emergency canine
protocol.
4:08:36 PM
KATRINA BACKUS, DVM, Medical Director, North Pole Veterinary
Hospital, testified in opposition to HB 70. She said that she
is concerned that HB 70 would allow untrained individuals to
perform medical interventions without proper education or
oversight. She emphasized the need to strengthen collaboration
between veterinarians and first responders.
4:11:02 PM
CHAIR MINA announced invited testimony again.
4:11:09 PM
SEAN MCPECK, DVM, CEO, Tier 1 Veterinary Medical Center,
testified in support of HB 70. He emphasized the low frequency
of situations that HB 70 would apply to. He said that HB 70
would allow paramedics to try to save the life of an operational
canine if it is injured in a very remote environment. He
emphasized that the care provided by paramedics would be en
route to a veterinarian, not in place of veterinary care. He
also emphasized how few veterinarians practice in Alaska.
4:15:50 PM
CHAIR MINA continued with public testimony on HB 70.
4:16:00 PM
MARY ANN HOLLICK, DVM, said the idea that a non-veterinarian can
be trained in a short term to perform advanced procedures is
crazy. She said that any care beyond basic first aid must occur
under the direct instructions of a veterinarian. She said HB 70
would need to include a waiver of liability for the licensed
veterinarian taking over the referred cases of operational
canines.
4:18:59 PM
MARK STIGAR, Former President, Alaska Search and Rescue
Association, said there are between 20 and 25 canines with the
Alaska Search and Rescue Association. He offered personal
anecdotes of the help he would seek out from a paramedic if his
dog were injured and there were no veterinarians nearby.
4:21:48 PM
MICHAEL LEVY, MD, Medical Director, State of Alaska Emergency
Medical Services, said he believes giving his EMS clinicians the
ability to transport injured operational canines to a higher
level of care is important.
4:23:17 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked Dr. Levy to describe what the
process for a medical director approving canine training under
HB 70 would look like.
DR. LEVY responded that under HB 70, a medical director would
need to establish when particular services would be provided to
canines and what resources would be available to ensure adequate
training for those services.
4:26:10 PM
BRITTANY TURNER, noting that she is a veterinarian assistant and
member of the US Air Force, testified in opposition to HB 70.
She said that HB 70 needs to define roles, regarding first aid
and transportation, more clearly.
4:26:55 PM
SCOTT LUNA, Paramedic Firefighter, testified in support of HB
70. He said that operational canines are often the first line
of defense in high-risk situations. He said that with proper
training, EMS providers would have the ability to make
significant impacts on these dogs and provide the opportunity to
deliver a salvageable dog to the veterinarian clinic.
4:29:27 PM
PAMELA SAMASH, representing self, testified in support of HB 70.
She said that she lives in a rural area 70 miles from a
veterinarian. She explained that a veterinarian trained members
of her community in emergency care for their pets because there
are no veterinarians in town. She emphasized that many rural
areas do not have access to veterinary care.
4:31:41 PM
CHAIR MINA, after ascertaining that there was no one else who
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 70.
HB 64-SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE
HB 64-SURRENDER OF INFANTS; INF. SAFETY DEVICE
4:31:54 PM
CHAIR MINA announced that the final order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 64 "An Act relating to the surrender of infants;
and providing for an effective date."
4:32:10 PM
DAVID GOFF, Staff, Representative Tomaszewski, Alaska State
Legislature, on behalf of Representative Tomaszewski, prime
sponsor, presented HB 64. He read the sponsor statement
[included in the committee packet], which read as follows
[original punctuation provided]:
In 2008 Alaska enacted its safe surrender law to
ensure that surrendered infants receive immediate care
for their safety and provide legal protection for the
relinquishing parent, thereby reduce potential infant
death due to illegal abandonment. Our current safe
surrender law requires a parent to directly relinquish
an infant to another individual.
Infant safety devices protect both relinquishing
parents and infants. Infant safety devices allow a
parent to surrender an infant anonymously through a
climate-controlled device at a designated facility.
Currently, twenty-two states authorize infant safety
devices. House Bill 64 would authorize the use of
infant safety devices as an additional method of
infant relinquishment under the safe surrender laws.
These devices would safely hold an infant with an
automatic lock and constant video surveillance while
immediately alerting appropriate personnel of the
surrender. Infant safety devices would be placed in
conspicuous areas with appropriate signage as
determined by the Department of Family and Community
Services (DFCS). An infant safety device may be
located at hospital, emergency department,
freestanding birth center, office of a private
physician, rural health clinic, municipal police
department, state trooper post, fire department, or
other facility designated by the DFCS commissioner.
The ability to relinquish an infant to a safe location
rather than an individual allows additional anonymity
for the relinquishing parent while still ensuring that
surrendered infants receive immediate medical care.
MR. GOFF, on behalf of Representative Tomaszewski, prime
sponsor, presented the sectional analysis for HB 64 [included in
the committee packet], which read as follows [original
punctuation provided]:
Section 1
Amends the child abandonment statute (AS 47.10.013(c))
to make a parent immune from prosecution if they
safely leave the infant in a safety device that is
fiscally affixed to allowable public agency facility.
Section 2
Amends the child abandonment statute (AS 47.10.013(d))
to conform to Section 1 abandonment for the person to
whom an infant is safely surrendered.
Section 3
Amends the child abandonment statute (AS47.10.013(e))
to include designated facility as a receiver of a
safely abandoned infant.
Section 4
Adds a new subsection to the child abandonment statute
to require receiving facilities to immediately notify
the nearest peace officer, community health aide,
physician, or hospital employee.
Adds a new subsection to specify what an infant safety
device must be equipped with and where
it must be located.
Section 5
Provides an effective date of July 1, 2026.
4:35:59 PM
CHAIR MINA announced invited testimony.
4:36:05 PM
DOUGLAS SCHRAGE, Fire Chief, Anchorage Fire Department,
testified in support of HB 64. He said that the face-to-face
requirement of the current Safe Haven statute is an impediment
to some individuals trying to safely surrender their infant
without risking their anonymity. He said that HB 64 would
provide a safe alternative to leaving infants unattended on the
side of the road. He emphasized that infant safety devices
would not be compulsory, and HB 64 would not require public
funds.
4:39:34 PM
CHAIR MINA asked how often the Anchorage Fire Department deals
with the surrendering of infants.
MR. SCHRAGE responded that these situations do not occur often.
He said he only knows of one live hand-off of a child but
explained that once every few years a child has been abandoned
and died due to being left alone in the elements.
4:40:59 PM
JULIE LYNETTE CONDELL, Lead 911 Dispatcher, Anchorage Fire
Department, emphasized the important difference between
confidentiality and anonymity for parents surrendering their
children. She said that these devices are located in 22 states
now and have saved several infants' lives. She explained that
these devices also contain materials for the mother using the
device that can connect her to resources she may need.
4:44:06 PM
CHAIR MINA asked Ms. Condell how often she receives calls
regarding the surrender of an infant.
MS. CONDELL responded said that she does not field many calls
regarding the surrender of an infant. She explained that these
situations most likely would not come through the 911 center
because of the lack of anonymity.
4:45:35 PM
LONNY MARNEY, Council Member, City of Fairbanks, said that
infant safety devices cost about $22,000 with a yearly $500
maintenance fee. He listed some of the organizations that may
fund this cost. He said that these devices would save lives.
4:49:36 PM
CHAIR MINA asked about locations where individuals can surrender
infants and if there are any disproportionate gaps in those
areas.
MR. GOFF responded that these situations present themselves more
in the downtown area of Anchorage.
MATTHEW THOMAS, Nurse Consultant II, Health Facilities Licensing
& Certification, Division of Healthcare Services, Department of
Health, responded that he is not able to speak to these gaps
under his capacity.
4:51:48 PM
CHAIR MINA asked about the education provided by the state on
the Safe Surrender Law.
4:52:25 PM
CARLA ERICKSON, Chief Assistant Attorney General, Child
Protection Services, Civil Division (Anchorage), Department of
Law, referred Chair Mina to the Office of Children's Services as
she said she does not know enough about the training.
4:52:47 PM
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS asked how the department assesses which
moms are at risk of child neglect and what kind of pre-natal
services can be offered. He asked how the state identifies or
fails to identify people who lack the ability to care for a
young child.
MR. THOMAS responded that his unit oversees the compliance of
healthcare facilities and requires all patients receiving
services be reviewed for possible abuse or other home-life
issues. He said his division does not engage in community
outreach.
4:54:45 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE raised concern regarding the unintended
consequences of HB 64. He asked about ensuring that the person
surrendering an infant knows what they are doing. He asked how
HB 64 could prevent the ability for anybody to put the baby in
the box.
MR. GOFF responded that he did not investigate the question of
"coerced surrender" in his research.
4:58:46 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE asked about the maintenance and
monitoring required for infant safety devices.
MR. GOFF responded that the company selling these devices
performs the annual maintenance checks on them.
5:02:02 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE asked if HB 64 would be solely a
liability opportunity.
MR. GOFF responded that currently it is required that an infant
is surrendered to a live person. He said that infant safety
devices would be another tool to provide a safe surrender.
REPRESENTATIVE SCHWANKE responded that HB 64 would provide a
legal structure for organizations to not be held liable if
something were to happen after purchasing an infant safety
device.
5:04:06 PM
CHAIR MINA asked about the unintended consequence of coercive
surrenders under HB 64. She referred to a similar law in New
Mexico which requires the state to attempt to find indigenous
relatives of any surrendered baby with indigenous heritage. She
asked how Alaska's implementation of the Indian Child Welfare
Act (ICWA) would pertain to HB 64.
5:05:43 PM
MS. ERICKSON responded that the state would indeed be required
to look for any potential relatives, although a diligent search
may look different for a child with no identifiers whatsoever.
5:07:17 PM
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked if DNA testing would negate the
anonymity of the infant safety device.
MS. ERICKSON responded that she has not yet encountered a
situation where the department did not already have some
indication of the child that was surrendered.
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked for the history of the surrendering of
infants.
5:09:38 PM
MR. GOFF responded that HB 64 would act as another tool for the
surrendering of infants. He said that coercion could also occur
with a live hand-off of an infant, although that may be more
noticeable with an in-person situation.
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked for statistics on how widely infant
safety devices are currently being deployed.
MR. GOFF responded that there are infant safety devices in 22
states, with Indiana having the largest number of them at 13
devices. He said there are 28 deployed in total throughout the
country and in Indiana there have been 5 children surrendered in
the last 2 years.
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked how long infant safety devices have
been deployed.
MR. GOFF said that he does not have the date that the first one
was installed but said that Indiana was the first state to
utilize them.
5:12:17 PM
MS. CONDELL said that under current law, individuals are not
required to answer questions when surrendering an infant to a
live person. She explained the daily and weekly monitoring
process of an infant safety device. She said not just anybody
can purchase and install an infant safety device; there is a
process that would be followed under HB 64. She also said that
currently, when an infant is left alone in the elements there is
also no identification of the individual who left them there,
explaining that an infant safety device could provide a life-
saving alternative in those situations.
5:15:34 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Health and Social Services Standing Committee meeting was
adjourned at 5:15 p.m.