Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

03/23/2023 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:04:08 PM Start
03:05:26 PM Confirmation Hearing(s): Department of Health, Commissioner|| Confirmation Hearing(s)
04:03:06 PM HB112
04:49:07 PM HB60
05:05:56 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Department of Health - Commissioner-Designee
Heidi Hedberg
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HB 112 PROFESSION OF PHARMACY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+= HB 60 RUNAWAYS; DFCS/DOH: DUTIES/LICENSING/INFO TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 60(HSS) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                     
                         March 23, 2023                                                                                         
                           3:04 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Prax, Chair                                                                                                 
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Vice Chair                                                                                     
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Jesse Sumner                                                                                                     
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
Representative Genevieve Mina                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative CJ McCormick                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner, Department of Health                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Heidi Hedberg  Anchorage                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     CONFIRAMTION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 112                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to  the  Board of  Pharmacy;  relating to  the                                                               
practice  of  pharmacy;  relating   to  pharmacies;  relating  to                                                               
prescription  drug manufacturers;  relating to  prescriptions for                                                               
epinephrine; relating  to the administration of  epinephrine; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 60                                                                                                               
"An Act relating  to the licensing of  runaway shelters; relating                                                               
to advisors to the board of  trustees of the Alaska Mental Health                                                               
Trust Authority;  relating to the sharing  of confidential health                                                               
information between  the Department of Health  and the Department                                                               
of Family and  Community Services; relating to the  duties of the                                                               
Department of Health  and the Department of  Family and Community                                                               
Services; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 60(HSS) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 112                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PROFESSION OF PHARMACY                                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) RUFFRIDGE                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
03/13/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/13/23       (H)       HSS, L&C                                                                                               
03/23/23       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  60                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RUNAWAYS; DFCS/DOH: DUTIES/LICENSING/INFO                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/03/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/03/23       (H)       HSS, FIN                                                                                               
02/28/23       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
02/28/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/28/23       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
03/07/23       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/07/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/07/23       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
03/14/23       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/14/23       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
03/23/23       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI HEDBERG, Commissioner Designee                                                                                            
Department of Health                                                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as the commissioner designee for                                                               
the Department of Health.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JEANNIE MONK, MPH, Senior Vice President                                                                                        
Alaska Hospital and Healthcare Association                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the confirmation hearing                                                                
on the governor's appointee for commissioner of the Department                                                                  
of Health.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ELLEN HODGES, MD, Chief of Staff                                                                                                
Yukon Kuskokwim Health Corporation                                                                                              
Bethel, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  during the  confirmation hearing                                                             
on the  governor's appointee for  commissioner of  the Department                                                               
of Health.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RON MEEHAN, Manager                                                                                                             
Policy and Advocacy                                                                                                             
Food Bank of Alaska                                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  during the  confirmation hearing                                                             
on the  governor's appointee for  commissioner of  the Department                                                               
of Health.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
NANCY MERRIMEN, CEO                                                                                                             
Alaska Primary Care Association                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  during the  confirmation hearing                                                             
on the  governor's appointee for  commissioner of  the Department                                                               
of Health.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH RIPLEY, CEO                                                                                                           
Mat-Su Health Foundation                                                                                                        
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  during the  confirmation hearing                                                             
on the  governor's appointee for  commissioner of  the Department                                                               
of Health.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
VERNE BOERNER, representing self                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  during the  confirmation hearing                                                             
on the  governor's appointee for  commissioner of  the Department                                                               
of Health.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BRAEDAN GARRET, staff                                                                                                           
Representative Justin Ruffridge                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the  sectional analysis of HB 112,                                                             
on behalf of Representative Ruffridge, prime sponsor.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ASHLEY SCHABER, Chair                                                                                                           
Board of Pharmacy                                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided a PowerPoint  presentation, titled                                                             
"House bill 112: Profession of Pharmacy."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN ROBB, Director                                                                                                           
Division of Corporations, Business, and Professional Licensing                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  during the hearing on HB
112.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RILEY NYE, Staff                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented  the proposed committee substitute                                                             
for HB 60, on behalf of  the bill sponsor, House Rules by request                                                               
of the governor.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER CARPENTER, Deputy Director                                                                                              
Department of Health                                                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided the  explanation of changes for the                                                             
proposed committee  substitute for HB  60, on behalf of  the bill                                                               
sponsor, House Rules by request of the governor.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
STACIE KRALY, Director                                                                                                          
Civil Division (Anchorage)                                                                                                      
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  relating to the proposed                                                             
committee substitute for HB 60.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:04:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MIKE PRAX  called  the House  Health  and Social  Services                                                             
Standing   Committee    meeting   to    order   at    3:04   p.m.                                                               
Representatives  Ruffridge, Sumner,  Fields, Mina  and Prax  were                                                               
present at the call to  order.  Representative Saddler arrived as                                                               
the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S): Department of Health, Commissioner                                                                    
                   ^ CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                    
               Commissioner, Department of Health                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:05:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX announced that the first  order of business would be a                                                               
confirmation   hearing   on    the   governor's   appointee   for                                                               
commissioner of the Department of Health.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:06:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI  HEDBERG,  Commissioner   Designee,  Department  of  Health                                                               
(DOH), shared  that she was born  in Utah and raised  in Seattle.                                                               
She moved to  Alaska in 1995 to attend  Alaska Pacific University                                                               
and graduated  with an outdoor  studies degree.  She  shared that                                                               
her  husband  is from  Alaska,  and  they  have  two boys.    She                                                               
explained that, prior  to her state service, she  worked 13 years                                                               
in  the  nonprofit  sector, which  provided  the  opportunity  to                                                               
travel   to   rural   communities  and   review   the   different                                                               
perspectives around  the healthcare  system.   She said  that she                                                               
has worked  for the  Division of  Public Health  for the  past 13                                                               
years  and  was the  director  for  the  last  four years.    She                                                               
explained that during the COVID-19  pandemic, she represented the                                                               
department  in  unified  command  with the  federal  Division  of                                                               
Homeland Security,  Emergency Management and  Alaska's Department                                                               
of Public  Safety.   She shared that  being director  and leading                                                               
the pandemic response  was one of the most fulfilling  jobs.  She                                                               
expressed gratitude  for staff and  partners who  helped position                                                               
Alaska to  fare better compared  to other rural states,  as there                                                               
were fewer  hospitalizations and fewer  deaths.  She  pointed out                                                               
that  through  partnerships  with  Tribal  health  organizations,                                                               
Alaska was  ranked number  one for  vaccinations per  capita when                                                               
the  COVID-19 vaccine  became available  in December  2020.   She                                                               
stated that  her vision for  the next  four years is  to leverage                                                               
public  health to  enable the  wellbeing and  self-sufficiency of                                                               
Alaskans.   As  the chief  health strategist,  she said  that she                                                               
would address insufficient systems  in public assistance, address                                                               
the gaps  in the  behavioral health continuum  of care,  focus on                                                               
allowing  elders   to  age   in  place,   and  focus   on  timely                                                               
reimbursements  of Medicaid.   She  suggested that  through these                                                               
outcomes, Alaskans  will be healthier, the  economy more vibrant,                                                               
and healthcare will be more accessible and affordable.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:12:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEDBERG  pointed out  the Department  of Education  and Early                                                               
Development's  (DEED's)  plan,  "Healthy  Alaskans  2030."    She                                                               
explained  that  this is  a  health  improvement plan  addressing                                                               
prevention,  as  this  is  cheaper  than  treatment  and  a  cost                                                               
containment tool over  time.  She suggested that  the Division of                                                               
Public Assistance is  at a "low point."  She  explained that this                                                               
is  not  a  reflection  of  the dedicated  staff,  but  rather  a                                                               
reflection  of  the  inefficient  systems.    She  expressed  the                                                               
opinion  that  information technology  (IT)  systems  need to  be                                                               
implemented.  She pointed out  that a workflow management tool is                                                               
being  leveraged, creating  efficiency  for staff.   Through  the                                                               
[Department of  Health and Social Services']  reorganization, she                                                               
suggested that  things like this  are affordable.   She continued                                                               
that, looking back at the  state's behavioral health continuum of                                                               
care, there  has been  a lot  of progress, but  more needs  to be                                                               
done to  fill the  gaps.   She said that  last year's  passage of                                                               
House  Bill 172  [passed  during the  Thirty-Second Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature] addressed  one of  the gaps, and  now over  the next                                                               
four  years, behavioral  health services  need to  be implemented                                                               
across the  state.  She  spoke on aging  in place for  elders and                                                               
local resources  for the disabled,  as these would be  other keys                                                               
for  having  healthy  families.   She  shared  that  in  November                                                               
advocacy   groups   called   for  an   update   to   rate-setting                                                               
methodologies,  as this  would increase  the workforce,  allowing                                                               
individuals with  disabilities to  choose their  direct services.                                                               
She recognized  that healthcare services  touch all parts  of the                                                               
Medicaid program.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:16:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEDBERG  stated that she  has a  "great" team, who  have been                                                               
able to  save $370 million in  general funds over past  six years                                                               
through Tribal  reclaiming.  She said  that her vision is  to see                                                               
the  governor's  initiative  on  healthy  families  realized,  as                                                               
strong  families are  the foundation  for a  vibrant economy  and                                                               
community.   She  concluded that  she would  bring organizational                                                               
leadership,  stability, innovation,  and a  team approach  to the                                                               
role.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:18:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    MINA    expressed    appreciation    for    the                                                               
acknowledgement of  previous issues  relating to  the [Department                                                               
of Health and  Social Services].  She expressed  the opinion that                                                               
now the  department is split,  there would be  more opportunities                                                               
to  examine workplace  culture and  rebuild  relationships.   She                                                               
questioned the importance of transparency in DOH.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.   HEDBERG   answered   that   transparency   means   building                                                               
relationships  to  inform  staff  of her  vision  and  leadership                                                               
style.   She  said  that DOH  has 1,500  employees,  and she  has                                                               
reached out  in town  hall meetings with  the Division  of Public                                                               
Assistance.  In regard to  DOH's partners, she explained that the                                                               
department cannot  reform healthcare on  its own, so it  needs to                                                               
partner with  Tribal health,  Tribes, hospitals,  health centers,                                                               
and businesses.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:21:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER commented  on the  massive size  and many                                                               
responsibilities of  the former  Department of Health  and Social                                                               
Services.     Even  with  the  department's   reorganization,  he                                                               
questioned whether DOH's mission would still be too big.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEDBERG answered  that DOH's  mission is  health, wellbeing,                                                               
and self-sufficiency,  and looking  at the divisions  within DOH,                                                               
she expressed  the opinion that  the mission is  rightly matched.                                                               
She reiterated that DOH cannot do  this alone and pointed out the                                                               
healthcare  providers   who  license   with  the   Department  of                                                               
Commerce, Community,  and Economic Development or  DEED's plan to                                                               
ensure   school  age   children  wellness.     She   stated  that                                                               
partnerships  with  the  business  sector  are  critical  towards                                                               
making changes in the workforce  environment.  She added that the                                                               
mission  is   set  for   DOH,  and   other  state   agencies  and                                                               
stakeholders would need to be  leveraged in order to move forward                                                               
in creating  a healthy workforce,  healthy economy,  with healthy                                                               
people.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:23:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  said  he   can  personally  attest  to                                                               
Commissioner Designee Hedberg's work  during the pandemic, as she                                                               
worked   long  hours   and  weekends   during  an   ever-changing                                                               
situation.   He pointed  out the  reports regarding  staff morale                                                               
and asked about plans to help improve the working environment.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEDBERG  commented that the  pandemic showed that  many staff                                                               
in the  department are exhausted.   She  shared that she  has met                                                               
with staff,  as it is  important to  hear their concerns  and for                                                               
them  to know  there is  leadership support.   When  it comes  to                                                               
staff, the  areas of concern  are culture, work  environment, and                                                               
compensation.   She  suggested that  the  consideration of  these                                                               
create an  environment where staff  want to work.   She explained                                                               
that having a connection with  staff, examining compensation, and                                                               
providing   tuition  reimbursement   would  address   morale  and                                                               
retention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:27:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS expressed  appreciation for the advancement                                                               
of the  Healthy Families Initiative  as an  organizing principal.                                                               
He suggested  that the focus  on preparedness to read  and reduce                                                               
adverse  childhood  experiences  would guide  policy  and  budget                                                               
decisions.     He   further  thanked   her   for  engaging   with                                                               
stakeholders,  as this  shows that  DOH has  listened, responded,                                                               
and worked on solutions.   He expressed support for Ms. Hedberg's                                                               
appointment and  asked that  she be  honest with  the legislature                                                               
when  there is  a crisis,  like with  the Supplemental  Nutrition                                                               
Assistance Program  (SNAP) benefits, so the  legislature can fund                                                               
the department adequately.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:30:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MINA  concurred with  Representative Fields.   She                                                               
questioned whether  DOH could partner  with the Office  of Health                                                               
Savings.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEDBERG responded  that the  Office of  Health Savings  is a                                                               
request within DOH's  budget.  She said there are  a lot of ideas                                                               
around  healthcare reform  and cost  savings,  and it  ultimately                                                               
boils down to  bandwidth, in that, this request  is for positions                                                               
to investigate, demonstrate, and expand ideas.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:31:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER,  given   the  recent  revenue  shortfall                                                               
forecast,  questioned how  DOH could  run  more efficiently  with                                                               
less cost.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEDBERG explained  that this starts with  having a discussion                                                               
with the division  directors regarding what stays  in the budget,                                                               
operating efficiencies,  and how  to leverage partnerships.   She                                                               
provided the example of increased  obesity and hypertension.  She                                                               
explained that the  cost of preventing these  conditions would be                                                               
cheaper than the treatment, and  prevention could serve as a cost                                                               
containment  tool over  time.   She  pointed out  that the  Fresh                                                               
Start   program  is   focused   on  treating   adults  with   the                                                               
aforementioned  conditions,  as  well  as  with  help  to  reduce                                                               
smoking.   She  stated  that over  1,000  people registered,  and                                                               
within the program individuals lost a total of 5,000 pounds.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:34:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SUMNER  questioned  the federal  funds  spent  on                                                               
Fresh Start.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEDBERG expressed uncertainty.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:34:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER,   regarding  commissioner  compensation,                                                               
questioned whether  she is  able to work  at the  current payrate                                                               
for the next four years.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEDBERG answered  yes.  In response to  a follow-up question,                                                               
she  answered  that the  Healthy  Families  Initiative has  three                                                               
pillars:  healthy  beginnings,   improving  access,  and  healthy                                                               
communities.    She explained  that  DOH  needs to  complete  its                                                               
studies around  child care  in order  to make  recommendations on                                                               
how to  support and sustain child  care in the state.   She added                                                               
that  having  child  care  would   allow  parents  to  enter  the                                                               
workforce.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:36:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PRAX   referred  to  the  COVID-19   pandemic,  expressing                                                               
appreciation with the DOH's response.   He asked what she learned                                                               
from this experience.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEDBERG shared  that she  had  received a  call regarding  a                                                               
repatriation  flight from  Wuhan in  January, and  then later  in                                                               
March, the  public health emergency  continued to  escalate; from                                                               
March to  May, the  science behind  the virus's  transmission was                                                               
unknown.   She recounted that  the governor and others  wanted to                                                               
ensure the  economy opened as  quickly as possible, so  there was                                                               
much  effort   in  getting  personal  protective   equipment  and                                                               
pandemic guidance.   She relayed  that many communities  took the                                                               
measures and  did what was best  for them at the  community level                                                               
while the state  focused on getting the economy going.   She said                                                               
that Commissioner  Adam Crum, Dr.  Anne Zink, and  herself worked                                                               
with the governor and partners to  assess what is known about the                                                               
virus.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PRAX commented  that there  was, and  still is,  lingering                                                               
skepticism of  public health  and the  health system  in general.                                                               
He inquired as to how trust could be restored.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEDBERG  responded  that  it is  about  meeting  people  and                                                               
communities and understanding concerns  about public health.  She                                                               
explained  that  many listening  sessions  were  held during  the                                                               
pandemic, where updates were shared,  and questions were fielded.                                                               
She advised that  these sessions might be needed  over the coming                                                               
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:42:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX opened public testimony on the confirmation hearing.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:43:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEANNIE  MONK, MPH,  Senior Vice  President, Alaska  Hospital and                                                               
Healthcare Association, stated that  she is testifying in support                                                               
of  the appointment  of Ms.  Hedberg.   She shared  that she  has                                                               
worked with  Ms. Hedberg for the  past 12 years and  has seen her                                                               
commitment   to  the   health   of  Alaskans.     She   expressed                                                               
appreciation  for Ms.  Hedberg's willingness  to step  forward to                                                               
the  new  role,  and  as  the role  is  new,  she  expressed  the                                                               
understanding  that  Ms.  Hedberg  is  taking  ownership  of  the                                                               
problems by  focusing on solutions.   She suggested  that success                                                               
would come from her willingness to build relationships.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:45:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked how the department could improve.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONK  answered that she  supports the three pillars  that Ms.                                                               
Hedberg discussed.   She  said the  association is  interested in                                                               
having  a  strong   healthcare  system.    She   added  that  the                                                               
association  is   also  interested   in  innovation   around  the                                                               
healthcare system,  so that it  will work better.   She suggested                                                               
that this has  been a challenge since the pandemic,  as the focus                                                               
has been on keeping the  health system functional.  She expressed                                                               
the understanding  that post-pandemic, the focus  will be finding                                                               
ways to improve.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:46:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELLEN  HODGES,  MD,  Chief  of   Staff,  Yukon  Kuskokwim  Health                                                               
Corporation,  shared   that  she  has  been   a  family  medicine                                                               
physician  in rural  Western  Alaska  for 20  years,  and she  is                                                               
speaking in  support of  the appointment.   She pointed  out that                                                               
Ms. Hedberg has been able to  find ways to promote development of                                                               
community healthcare aide programs.   She stated that, during the                                                               
pandemic, Ms. Hedberg had been  a steadfast ally and advocate for                                                               
rural Alaska, and  her enthusiasm never wavered.   She said there                                                               
is  still crises  in the  state, with  a large  tuberculosis (TB)                                                               
outbreak, substance  misuse, and other health  conditions, all of                                                               
which impact rural Alaska uniquely.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:49:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RON MEEHAN,  Manager, Policy and  Advocacy, Food Bank  of Alaska,                                                               
testified in support of the appointment  of Ms. Hedberg.  He said                                                               
that she  has kept constant  communication with the Food  Bank of                                                               
Alaska  and  Alaska's  anti-hunger network  throughout  the  food                                                               
security crisis.   He stated that she has  played an instrumental                                                               
role in  securing funds for  the bank's immediate  relief efforts                                                               
to those  suffering from the  SNAP backlog.   He said  that under                                                               
her purview DOH  has taken positive steps to  reduce the backlog,                                                               
reduce   the  Division   of  Public   Assistance  workload,   and                                                               
streamline the  process for clients.   He  said that she  and her                                                               
team have been working around the clock to address the backlog.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:50:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY MERRIMEN,  CEO, Alaska Primary Care  Association, testified                                                               
in support of Ms. Hedberg's  appointment.  She said the appointee                                                               
has the wealth  of knowledge and experience that  leads to strong                                                               
collaboration,  focusing  on  results.    She  pointed  out  that                                                               
federally qualified health centers  are committed to primary care                                                               
that  can  meet patients  where  they  are.   She  expressed  the                                                               
opinion that  Ms. Hedberg has  the ability to improve  health and                                                               
wellness through  affecting economic status,  housing, education,                                                               
and food  security.  She continued  that Ms. Hedberg is  a strong                                                               
public health leader in Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:53:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MINA  noted that  while she  worked at  the Alaska                                                               
Primary Care  Association during  the COVID-19 pandemic,  she had                                                               
communicated  many  times  with   Ms.  Hedberg.    She  expressed                                                               
gratitude  concerning Ms.  Hedberg's work  with community  health                                                               
centers during the pandemic.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:53:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH RIPLEY, CEO, Mat-Su Health  Foundation, stated that the                                                               
foundation  has worked  with  Ms.  Hedberg in  the  past, and  it                                                               
supports  her confirmation.   She  explained  that Ms.  Hedberg's                                                               
work  during the  pandemic shows  she is  a proven  leader.   She                                                               
pointed out that Ms. Hedberg  has high-energy, experience, and is                                                               
a dedicated  public servant,  who has built  a solid  team around                                                               
her.    She   noted  that  Ms.  Hedberg  is   also  an  excellent                                                               
communicator, which  is a  key strength  a commissioner  needs in                                                               
order  to work  with the  many constituencies.   She  pointed out                                                               
that, upon her  taking up her role of  commissioner designee, she                                                               
had walked  into a difficult  situation around SNAP  and Medicaid                                                               
payments, recognized that these  were priority areas, and brought                                                               
resources in to improve the situation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:55:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VERNE  QAANAAQ BOERNER,  representing  self, stated  that she  is                                                               
honored to  speak in support  of Ms. Hedberg's appointment.   She                                                               
shared that she is a  second-year PhD student in epidemiology and                                                               
has  worked as  president and  CEO  of the  Alaska Native  Health                                                               
Board.  At that time, she  had worked with Ms. Hedberg during the                                                               
COVID-19 pandemic.  She stated  that Ms. Hedberg had demonstrated                                                               
exceptional   strategic  thinking,   honed  collaborations,   and                                                               
effectiveness  in deploying  scarce  resources.   She said  that,                                                               
during a time  of great scarcity, Ms. Hedberg  had acted quickly,                                                               
decisively,  and worked  countless hours.   She  opined that  the                                                               
collective result was putting Alaska at  the top of the nation in                                                               
protecting its people.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:58:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX,  after ascertaining  that there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:59:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PRAX stated  that  the House  Health  and Social  Services                                                               
Standing  Committee  has  reviewed   the  qualifications  of  the                                                               
governor's appointee  and recommends  that the following  name be                                                               
forwarded to a  joint session for consideration:   Heidi Hedberg,                                                               
Commissioner of the  Department of Health.  He  said that signing                                                               
the report  regarding appointments  to boards and  commissions in                                                               
no way  reflects an individual  member's approval  or disapproval                                                               
of the appointee,  and the nomination is merely  forwarded to the                                                               
full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:00:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:00 p.m. to 4:03 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                 HB 112-PROFESSION OF PHARMACY                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 112, "An Act  relating to the Board  of Pharmacy;                                                               
relating  to the  practice of  pharmacy; relating  to pharmacies;                                                               
relating   to  prescription   drug  manufacturers;   relating  to                                                               
prescriptions for epinephrine; relating  to the administration of                                                               
epinephrine; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:03:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RUFFRIDGE,  as   prime   sponsor   of  HB   112,                                                               
paraphrased  the   sponsor  statement   [copy  included   in  the                                                               
committee packet],  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Pharmacists  and pharmacies  are  an  integral part  of                                                                    
     Alaska'  healthcare system.  It is  important that  the                                                                    
     Alaska  statutes  that  guide   them  are  updated  and                                                                    
     reflect   the    services   provided    by   modern-day                                                                    
     pharmacies.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     House   Bill  112   clarifies  the   Alaska  Board   of                                                                    
     Pharmacy's powers and duties  to align with the federal                                                                    
     Drug Supply  Chain and Security Act  (DSCSA) related to                                                                    
     licensing and oversight  of manufacturers, out-of-state                                                                    
     pharmacies,   outsourcing   facilities,  and   internet                                                                    
     pharmacies  who conduct  business in  Alaska. In  doing                                                                    
     so,  these out-of-state  entities will  be held  to the                                                                    
     same high standard  as those operating in  the state of                                                                    
     Alaska,  helping  to  ensure Alaskans  have  access  to                                                                    
     medications  that  are  safe,   no  matter  where  they                                                                    
     originate.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     HB  112 aligns  Alaska's pharmacy  board statutes  with                                                                    
     similar boards  in other  states. It  allows for  it to                                                                    
     meaningfully  recognize retired  pharmacists and  their                                                                    
     contributions.  Stressing  the   importance  of  public                                                                    
     safety, HB  112 would  allow the  board to  institute a                                                                    
     national   criminal   background   check   for   Alaska                                                                    
     pharmacists and pharmacy  technicians. This would align                                                                    
     the  Alaska   Board  of  Pharmacy  with   the  National                                                                    
     Association   of  Boards   and  Pharmacy   Model  State                                                                    
     Pharmacy Act.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The Executive  Administrator plays  a critical  role in                                                                    
     the  smooth functioning  of the  board  and requires  a                                                                    
     high  degree of  competency  and  understanding of  the                                                                    
     complexities   of   pharmacy-related  regulations   and                                                                    
     issues.   This   bill   gives  Alaska's   Division   of                                                                    
     Professional Licensing flexibility  to hire a qualified                                                                    
     pharmacist  for  this  administrative role  should  one                                                                    
     apply.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  changes  proposed  in House  Bill  112  reflect  a                                                                    
     dedicated  collaboration between  the  Alaska Board  of                                                                    
     Pharmacy   and  the   Alaska  Pharmacists   Association                                                                    
     (AKPhA) to modernize pharmacy practice statutes.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:05:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRAEDAN  GARRET, Staff,  Representative Justin  Ruffridge, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  on behalf of Representative  Ruffridge, prime                                                               
sponsor, gave  the sectional analysis  for HB 112  [copy included                                                               
in  the  committee  packet],  which  read  as  follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section   1.  Amends   AS  08.08.010(a)   Creation  and                                                                
     membership of board; officers                                                                                          
     Alters  composition   of  the  seven-member   Board  of                                                                    
     Pharmacy  by designating  one member  to be  a licensed                                                                    
     pharmacy technician,  and one being an  individual with                                                                    
     no financial interest in the healthcare industry                                                                           
     Section  2. Amends  AS 08.80.030  Powers and  Duties of                                                                
     Board                                                                                                                  
     (b)(10)   Separates    out   the   licensing/regulating                                                                    
     entities relating to  manufacturing and distributing of                                                                    
     drugs and devices by use of the                                                                                            
     word "or"                                                                                                                  
     (b)(12)  adds  an  epinephrine  auto-injector  training                                                                    
     program                                                                                                                    
     (b)(14)  Clarifies that  only pharmacists  who dispense                                                                    
     federally scheduled  controlled substances  be required                                                                    
     to  register  with  the  Prescription  Drug  Monitoring                                                                    
     Program (PDMP)                                                                                                             
     (b)(16) Adds pharmacies  and manufacturers from out-of-                                                                    
     state  to  the list  of  entities  to be  licensed  and                                                                    
     inspected                                                                                                                  
     (b)(17) Adds  internet-based pharmacies to the  list of                                                                    
     entities to be licensed if they are servicing Alaskans                                                                     
     (b)(18) adds  language adopting  regulations pertaining                                                                    
     to retired pharmacist status                                                                                               
     Section  3.   Amends  08.80.145   Reciprocity;  license                                                                
     transfer                                                                                                               
     (3)  removes character  requirement  -  "of good  moral                                                                    
     character"                                                                                                                 
     (4)  removes internship  details    this is  a national                                                                    
     standard among schools of pharmacy                                                                                         
     Renumbering of statute items                                                                                               
     Section 4. Amends AS 08.80.157 Licensing of facilities                                                                 
     (k)    this    adds   out-of-state    pharmacies    and                                                                    
     manufacturers  to the  list of  entities  that must  be                                                                    
     licensed and inspected                                                                                                     
     Section   5.   Amends   AS  08.80.159   Licensing   and                                                                
     inspection of facilities outside the state                                                                             
     (a)  Adds  "distributor,   pharmacy,  manufacturer"  to                                                                    
     those out-of-state  entities that must be  licensed and                                                                    
     inspected,  under the  Drug Supply  Chain and  Security                                                                    
     Act                                                                                                                        
     Section   6.   Amends   AS  08.80.159   Licensing   and                                                                
     inspection of facilities outside the state                                                                             
     (c) adds  "pharmacy and manufacturer" to  list that may                                                                    
     be inspected if located outside the state                                                                                  
     Section 7. Amends AS 08.80.160 Fees                                                                                    
     (10)  Removes the  word "registration"  since the  bill                                                                    
     mandates licensure of a facility                                                                                           
     Section 8.  Amends 08.80.168 and adds  a new subsection                                                                
       Administration of vaccines and related emergencies                                                                   
     (e) Allows a pharmacist  to administer epinephrine to a                                                                    
     person  or  prescribe   epinephrine  auto-injectors  to                                                                    
     someone  who   has  completed  the   epinephrine  auto-                                                                    
     injector training program                                                                                                  
     Section 9. Amends  AS 08.80.270 Executive administrator                                                                
     of the board                                                                                                           
     (a)  Adds an  additional  salary range  option for  the                                                                    
     executive administrator,  allowing flexibility  for the                                                                    
     Division to select a pharmacist for the role                                                                               
     Section  10. Amends  AS  08.80.420 Certain  advertising                                                                
     prohibited                                                                                                             
     (a) adds  the term "apothecary"  to list of  those that                                                                    
     cannot  be  used in  media  or  advertising unless  the                                                                    
     store employs a licensed pharmacist with regular hours                                                                     
     Section  11.  Amends  AS  12.62.400  National  criminal                                                                
     history record check                                                                                                   
     (a)(23)  adds  pharmacist  and pharmacy  technician  to                                                                    
     list  of  professions  where   a  background  check  is                                                                    
     required.  Aligns   with  State  of   Alaska's  nursing                                                                    
     requirements  and  pharmacy   requirements  typical  in                                                                    
     other  states. This  adds a  national level  background                                                                    
     check                                                                                                                      
     Section   12.   Amends   AS   17.22.010   Prescription,                                                                
     purchase,  administration of  epinephrine by  a trained                                                                
     individual                                                                                                             
     Allows anyone over  18 to purchase or  be prescribed an                                                                    
     epinephrine    auto-injector,    and   to    administer                                                                    
     epinephrine in  an emergency to another  person if they                                                                    
     have  completed an  epinephrine auto-injector  training                                                                    
     program  approved   by  the  board.  It   removes  very                                                                    
     outdated language from this section                                                                                        
     Section   13.  Amends   AS  17.22.020(a)   Approval  of                                                                
     training programs                                                                                                      
     (a) Allows  the board,  rather than the  department, to                                                                    
     adopt  standards  for   the  epinephrine  auto-injector                                                                    
     training program and deletes outdated language                                                                             
     Section   14.  Amends   AS  17.22.020(b)   Approval  of                                                                
     training programs                                                                                                      
     (b) Allows  the board,  rather than the  department, to                                                                    
     approve an  epinephrine auto-injector  training program                                                                    
     that meets the board's standards                                                                                           
     Section 15. Amends AS 17.22.030 Applicability                                                                          
     States  that this  chapter does  not  apply to  someone                                                                    
     currently  authorized under  another law  to administer                                                                    
     epinephrine, such as  a nurse or doctor,  or some other                                                                    
     authorized professional                                                                                                    
     Section 16. Amends AS  17.22.040 Liability of certified                                                                
     individual                                                                                                             
     Outlines that a person may  not be sued who administers                                                                    
     epinephrine  to another  in an  emergency, and  in good                                                                    
     faith,  if  he or  she  has  completed the  epinephrine                                                                    
     auto-injector training program approved by the board                                                                       
     Section 17. Amends AS 17.22.090 Definitions                                                                            
     (3) defines the "board" as the Board of Pharmacy                                                                           
     4                                                                                                                          
     Section 18. Repeals  AS 08.80.110(2) Qualifications for                                                                
     licensure by examination                                                                                               
     •  Repeals (2)  furnish  the board  with  at least  two                                                                    
     affidavits from  reputable citizens that  the applicant                                                                    
     has  known  for at  least  one  year attesting  to  the                                                                    
     applicant's good moral character.  This is not required                                                                    
     in medical board, dental or nursing statutes.                                                                              
     • Repeals 08.80.158  Registration of pharmacies located                                                                    
     outside  the state  since this  bill would  now require                                                                    
     licensure                                                                                                                  
     •  Repeals AS  17.22.020(c) which  is the  Department's                                                                    
     epinephrine auto-injector training program                                                                                 
     • Repeals  AS 17.22.090(1) that defines  the department                                                                    
     as the Dept  of Health, since it will no  longer be the                                                                    
     approving  entity  of   the  epinephrine  auto-injector                                                                    
     training program                                                                                                           
     Section   19.   TRANSITION   LANGUAGE   for   currently                                                                
     registered pharmacies                                                                                                  
     A new  section that  would allow  pharmacies previously                                                                    
     registered  to  continue  to   ship,  mail  or  deliver                                                                    
     prescription  drugs to  its customers  in Alaska  until                                                                    
     their  registration expires.  At that  time, they  will                                                                    
     then have to apply for licensure.                                                                                          
     Section 20. TRANSITION: REGULATIONS                                                                                    
        Allows the Board of Pharmacy and DCCED to adopt                                                                         
     regulations to carry out the changes laid out in this                                                                      
     legislation.                                                                                                               
     Section 21. Section 20 has an immediate effective date                                                                 
     under AS 01.10.070(c)                                                                                                      
     Section 22: Effective date is set to coincide with the                                                                 
      Drug Supply Chain and Security Act that will go into                                                                      
     effect on November 26, 2023.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:13:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ASHLEY  SCHABER,  Chair, Board  of  Pharmacy,  gave a  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation,  titled "House  bill 112:  Profession of  Pharmacy"                                                               
[hard copy included in the  committee packet].  She explained the                                                               
mission of the Board of Pharmacy  and its guiding principles.  On                                                               
slide 2,  she pointed  out guiding  principal 4,  which addresses                                                               
the issues  that HB 112 would  effect.  She stated  that it would                                                               
help create a routine review  of the effectiveness of regulations                                                               
and reduce barriers to licensure,  while not compromising patient                                                               
health and  safety, as  seen under  4.1.   She pointed  out under                                                               
4.4,  the  proposed  legislation  would help  in  advocating  for                                                               
legislation for  the pharmacy  profession as  it evolves  and new                                                               
opportunities for improvement patient  safety arise.  Pointing to                                                               
4.5,  she  stated  that  the   proposed  legislation  would  help                                                               
anticipate  changes  to  the  Drug  Supply  Chain  Security  Act,                                                               
allowing a proactive response.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER moved  to slide 3, which addressed  the background of                                                               
HB 112.   She stated that the proposed legislation  is the result                                                               
of a  multi-year, multi-chair review of  statutes and regulations                                                               
to help ensure the Alaska Board  of Pharmacy can continue to meet                                                               
its  mission.   She  listed  what  HB  112 would  accomplish,  as                                                               
follows: streamline the licensure  process while improving public                                                               
safety;  maintain  compliance  with  DSCSA;  help  alignment  the                                                               
Pharmacy Board with  other boards in Alaska and  in other states;                                                               
clarify  the  role  of pharmacists  in  epinephrine  access;  and                                                               
create  a  collaborative  effort  between  the  Alaska  Board  of                                                               
Pharmacy and the Alaska Pharmacists Association                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:15:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHABER moved  to slide  4  and discussed  how the  proposed                                                               
legislation   would  streamline   the  licensure   process  while                                                               
improving  public safety.   She  stated that  it would  eliminate                                                               
unnecessary  forms currently  required in  statute, clarify  that                                                               
only pharmacists who dispense  controlled substances are required                                                               
to  register  with PDMP,  and  add  national criminal  background                                                               
checks.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHABER moved  to slide  5  and discussed  how the  proposed                                                               
legislation  would help  with compliance  with Drug  Supply Chain                                                               
and Security Act.   She explained that DSCSA  further secures the                                                               
U.S. drug supply  through a system to prevent  harmful drugs from                                                               
entering  the  supply chain,  detect  harmful  drugs if  they  do                                                               
enter, and enable  rapid response when such drugs  are found, and                                                               
pharmacy boards play a key  role through appropriate licensing of                                                               
drug distributors and  pharmacies.  She stated that  HB 112 would                                                               
ensure  that  the Alaska  Board  of  Pharmacy powers  and  duties                                                               
support the DSCSA.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:18:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER moved to slide 6  and discussed how HB 112 would help                                                               
align  the Pharmacy  Board with  other  boards in  Alaska and  in                                                               
other  states.   It would  do this  by replacing  one of  the two                                                               
public member  seats with a  pharmacy technician seat,  allow the                                                               
board  to  adopt  language for  retired  pharmacist  status,  and                                                               
clarify  the  executive  administrator's salary,  as  this  would                                                               
allow a pharmacist to serve in this role in the future.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER moved to slide 7  and discussed how HB 112 would help                                                               
the role of  pharmacists in epinephrine access.   She stated that                                                               
an  epinephrine  training program  would  be  implemented, and  a                                                               
clarification  would  be  made  which  states  a  pharmacist  can                                                               
administer epinephrine to a person  or prescribe epinephrine auto                                                               
injectors  to someone  who has  completed  the training  program.                                                               
she  added  that  this would  increases  epinephrine  access  for                                                               
Alaskans with anaphylactic emergencies.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:22:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHABER   concluded  the  presentation  by   requesting  the                                                               
committee's support  of HB  112, as this  would allow  for better                                                               
public health, safety,  and welfare of Alaskans  by the effective                                                               
control and regulation of the practice of pharmacy.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:22:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  questioned whether  [people on  the board]                                                               
would have a financial interest in the healthcare industry.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER answered  that it is in statute that  a person who is                                                               
a public member  [of the board] would have  no financial interest                                                               
in  the healthcare  industry.   She said  that this  person would                                                               
bring a public consumer interest to the board.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS   questioned  the  current   board  member                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.   SCHABER  deferred   the  question   to  the   [Division  of                                                               
Corporations,  Business,   and  Professional  Licensing].     She                                                               
reiterated that  this is  in statute and  added that  the biggest                                                               
change is a  person having no financial interest.   She said that                                                               
a willingness  to attend quarterly  meetings and a  commitment to                                                               
the work is required.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:24:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  added  that there  are  currently  two                                                               
public  member positions  on the  board, with  only one  recently                                                               
filled.   He  stated that  it has  been difficult  to get  public                                                               
members to serve  because of the time commitment, as  well as low                                                               
willingness of  the public to serve  on a board for  a profession                                                               
they might  not know much  about; therefore, HB 112  would change                                                               
one of the public seats to a technician position.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:25:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  expressed appreciation  for the idea.   He                                                               
questioned  the  board's  role  in  supporting  the  training  of                                                               
pharmacy technicians.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  responded that during his  time serving                                                               
on  the Board  of Pharmacy,  this was  an item  of interest,  and                                                               
regulations were  passed to add  a certified  pharmacy technician                                                               
as  an  individual  recognized   in  regulatory  practice.    For                                                               
example,  he explained  that  certified  pharmacy technicians  in                                                               
Alaska  currently  have  the  ability   to  do  final  checks  on                                                               
prescriptions, if the prescription  had a drug utilization review                                                               
done by  a pharmacist and  administer vaccinations.   He stressed                                                               
that  there is  an effort  in  the industry  to promote  pharmacy                                                               
technicians as being a "middle step."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:26:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SADDLER  observed   that  if   there  are   four                                                               
pharmacists on the board right  now, it would seem unnecessary to                                                               
have the  executive director be a  pharmacist.  He asked  why the                                                               
executive director is required to be a pharmacist.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE stated  that he is a  previous member of                                                               
the board  and is  a pharmacist  and expressed  the understanding                                                               
that  an  executive  administrator   of  the  Board  of  Pharmacy                                                               
performs many  duties, and  members are expected  to have  an in-                                                               
depth  understanding of  the department's  licensing duties.   He                                                               
pointed out  that many licensing  and professional  questions are                                                               
directed to the  executive administrator.  He added  that in many                                                               
states pharmacists serve in this role.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER added  that the five pharmacists on  the Alaska Board                                                               
of Pharmacy are  all volunteers and work full time  and would not                                                               
have the time to address questions.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA asked  how out-of-state  entities are  being                                                               
regulated.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  answered  that   they  are  not  being                                                               
regulated.   He explained that  they are required to  register in                                                               
the state, but if the  entity is dispensing or providing services                                                               
in the state,  the Board of Pharmacy has no  option to protect or                                                               
promote the safety  and wellbeing of Alaska  patients because the                                                               
entities are not licensed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER  stated that HB  112 would give the  board oversight.                                                               
She  explained that  currently only  a registration  acknowledges                                                               
out-of-state  entities are  providing  services.   She  explained                                                               
that  if there  was a  safety concern  regarding an  out-of-state                                                               
pharmacy, the  board would have no  oversight.  In response  to a                                                               
follow-up  question  concerning  the prevalence  of  out-of-state                                                               
entities,  she  pointed out  that  mail-order  pharmacies are  an                                                               
example,  and some  are  considered  compounding pharmacies  that                                                               
could   provide   either   sterile  or   non-sterile   compounds,                                                               
medications, eye drops, and injections to patients in Alaska.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:33:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  asked  how  pharmacies  are  adapting  to                                                               
fentanyl being present in adulterated drugs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  answered  that  it  is  a  very  large                                                               
concern.   He explained  that getting a  clearer picture  of what                                                               
the drug supply  chain looks like was one of  the reasons why the                                                               
Drug Supply  Chain Act  is at the  federal level,  as adulterated                                                               
medications are often sent through  Internet pharmacies.  He said                                                               
the proposed legislation would follow federal regulation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHABER added  that the  proposed legislation  would address                                                               
giving the board oversight of Internet pharmacies.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:35:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS expressed  concern  that  gaps in  primary                                                               
care could  lead to  expensive care  for families.   He  asked if                                                               
there are opportunities for the  board to work with other primary                                                               
healthcare providers in an effort to reduce such gaps.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE responded  that there  would be  a more                                                               
detailed   answer  later,   as   there   are  opportunities   for                                                               
pharmacists to fill  gaps in care.  He explained  that during the                                                               
pandemic,  pharmacies across  the  state had  been  able to  fill                                                               
roles that historically  they had not.  He relayed  that there is                                                               
a nationwide  push for pharmacists  to be given  provider status,                                                               
something  HB 112  would not  do;  however, the  state has  taken                                                               
steps  to promote  this  ability.   He alluded  to  a barrier  in                                                               
pharmacy businesses, causing  many to close across  the state and                                                               
country.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:38:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   asked  for   the  number   of  licensed                                                               
pharmacists in Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHABER  deferred the question  to the division.   She shared                                                               
that there  has been  a challenge in  ensuring that  licenses are                                                               
processed quickly.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:40:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN ROBB,  Director, Division  of Corporations,  Business, and                                                               
Professional  Licensing, Department  of Commerce,  Community, and                                                               
Economic  Development,  answered that,  as  of  today, there  are                                                               
1,049   licensed   pharmacists   and  1,206   licensed   pharmacy                                                               
technicians.  In response to  a follow-up question, she expressed                                                               
uncertainty  about  how many  registered  pharmacies  are in  the                                                               
state.  She offered to report back to the committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:42:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  thanked members  for hearing  the bill.                                                               
He  said that  the hearing  has been  a good  start in  promoting                                                               
changes that have been worked on for a long time.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  acknowledged  Representative  Ruffridge's                                                               
previous  efforts.   He suggested  that  some regulatory  reforms                                                               
around  staffing could  help address  "pharmacy  deserts" in  the                                                               
state.  He asked if other  reforms would bring more pharmacies to                                                               
unserved places.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE responded  that pharmacies  are closing                                                               
because of the  high-barrier entry, namely in payroll  costs.  He                                                               
pointed out  that some corporate  pharmacies are  reducing staff,                                                               
even as  the number  of prescriptions is  rising.   He elaborated                                                               
that many pharmacies operate as  a net loss to large corporations                                                               
because this  margin is small.   He suggested that this  could be                                                               
altered with  the role pharmacy  technicians play, as  they could                                                               
be  more   of  a  manager  while   pharmacists  provide  clinical                                                               
oversight.   He explained that  tele-pharmacies allow  a pharmacy                                                               
to operate in an urban  setting.  For example, downtown Anchorage                                                               
has  three pharmacy  technicians,  as  pharmacists are  centrally                                                               
located in a larger facility,  and technology is used to remotely                                                               
access the prescriptions.  He  explained that this option already                                                               
has a statute  to govern it, and this is  something the board has                                                               
changed to  open the  option now  for pharmacy  deserts; however,                                                               
pharmacies in the state need to adopt this change.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:46:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX announced HB 112 was held over.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:46:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:46 p.m. to 4:49 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        HB  60-RUNAWAYS; DFCS/DOH: DUTIES/LICENSING/INFO                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:49:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  60, "An Act relating to the  licensing of runaway                                                               
shelters; relating  to advisors to  the board of trustees  of the                                                               
Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority;  relating to the sharing of                                                               
confidential health information between  the Department of Health                                                               
and the Department of Family  and Community Services; relating to                                                               
the  duties of  the Department  of Health  and the  Department of                                                               
Family  and Community  Services; and  providing for  an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:49:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  moved to  adopt the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB  60,  33-GH1343\S,  Bergerud,  3/21/23,                                                               
("Version S") as a working document.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:50:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:50:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RILEY  NYE,   Staff,  Representative  Mike  Prax,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  on behalf  of  the bill  sponsor,  House Rules,  by                                                               
request  of the  governor, explained  that HB  60 was  originally                                                               
introduced  to support  the reorganization  of the  Department of                                                               
Health  and Social  Services into  the Department  of Family  and                                                               
Community  Services (DFCS)  and the  Department of  Health (DOH),                                                               
under Executive  Order 121, and  Version S would  implement fixes                                                               
and  missions  to  support the  reorganization.    This  includes                                                               
adding DFCS to the definition of  "department" in A.S. 18.65.  He                                                               
explained that this would clarify  the role of each department as                                                               
it relates to shelters for runaways.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:52:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER CARPENTER,  Deputy Director, Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of  Health, on  behalf  of  the bill  sponsor,  House                                                               
Rules, by  request of the  governor, paraphrased  the explanation                                                               
of  changes  for  Version  S  [copy  included  in  the  committee                                                               
packet], which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1      This language is unchanged from section                                                                     
                    1 of version A.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2      Version S includes the newly identified                                                                     
                    need to include the Department of                                                                           
                    Family and Community Services in the                                                                        
                    definition of department.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3      This language is unchanged from section                                                                     
                    2 of version A.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4      This language is unchanged from section                                                                     
                    3 of version A.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sections 5-9                                                                                                               
     and 11-14      Version S updates these sections to                                                                         
                    further clarify the duties of each                                                                          
                    department related to programs for                                                                          
                    runaways.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 10     Version S updates the bill to include a                                                                     
                    necessary clarification related to the                                                                      
                    confidentiality of records related to                                                                       
                    shelters for runaways.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 15     This language is unchanged from section                                                                     
                    10 of version A.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16     Version S amends this section to                                                                            
                    replace the term "authorizing" with                                                                         
                     "applicable" from section 11 of                                                                            
                    version A. This change reflects the                                                                         
                    removal of the definition for the term                                                                      
                     "authorizing" in section 20 below.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sections 17-18 This language is unchanged from                                                                             
                    sections 12-13 of version A.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 19     This language is unchanged from section                                                                     
                    14 of version A.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 20     Version S amends Section 15 from                                                                            
                    version A to remove the new definition                                                                      
                    for "authorizing department" to avoid                                                                       
                    potential confusion with the duplicate                                                                      
                    definition of "applicable department."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 21     Version S moves the repeal of this                                                                          
                    language related to the licensure of                                                                        
                     shelters for runaways from Section 9                                                                       
                     in version A. AS 47.32.010 was                                                                             
             repealed and reenacted under Executive                                                                             
                     Order 121, section 79.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 22     This language is unchanged from section                                                                     
                    16 of version A.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:55:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  pointed out  that the date  of the  CS is                                                               
labeled March  21, and a legal  opinion, also dated March  21, by                                                               
Margaret  Bergerud, Legislative  Legal  Counsel,  points out  the                                                               
potential single subject law violations.   He asked if this legal                                                               
opinion applies to the CS before the committee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:56:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STACIE  KRALY,  Director,  Civil  Division,  Department  of  Law,                                                               
answered  yes, in  that,  the  memo relates  to  the  CS and  the                                                               
overall  framework of  Version S.    In response  to a  follow-up                                                               
question                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRALY,  in  response  to  a  follow-up  question,  expressed                                                               
disagreement  with Legislative  Legal Service's  assessment of  a                                                               
single subject  issue with Version S.   She pointed to  the title                                                               
of the  proposed legislation, which  shows there are a  number of                                                               
different issues  being addressed, and looking  at the underlying                                                               
theme, she pointed  out that the bill would deal  with all of the                                                               
powers and duties  for DOH and DFCS.  She  related that there was                                                               
a  concern  raised in  regard  to  who was  going  to  be on  the                                                               
advisory council  for the Alaska  Mental Health  Trust Authority.                                                               
She continued that last year,  at the advice of Legislative Legal                                                               
Services, the  department had  picked a  particular commissioner.                                                               
This commissioner  was picked because Legislative  Legal Services                                                               
advised that  a member could not  be added to the  advisory board                                                               
because  of the  subject change,  as  this is  not allowed  under                                                               
executive order  rule.  She  explained that the  commissioner was                                                               
picked  with the  understanding  that  a bill  would  need to  be                                                               
introduced this year to articulate  how the two departments would                                                               
interact  with the  Alaska Mental  Health Trust  Authority.   She                                                               
explained that  there are no  substantive changes to  the trust's                                                               
statutes  in   the  bill,  rather,   it  articulates   that  both                                                               
departments  need  to be  involved  as  advisory members  to  the                                                               
board.  She  elaborated that every provision in  the bill relates                                                               
to  the operations  of  the  two departments  and  how they  meet                                                               
statutory  duties.   She expressed  the understanding  that there                                                               
are no problems with the proposed legislation, as drafted.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER advised  that  these  issues be  resolved                                                               
now, and  he expressed the hope  that there will be  a meeting to                                                               
hash this out.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:00:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SUMNER  read from  Section 13 of  the Constitution                                                               
of the State of Alaska, which read as follows:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Every bill shall be confined to one subject unless it                                                                      
      is an appropriation bill or one codifying, revising,                                                                      
     or rearranging existing laws.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SUMNER offered  his  understanding that,  through                                                               
the executive  order, the two  departments are separated  and now                                                               
the legislature would be codifying this.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:01:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRALY stated  that  the  power to  split  the department  is                                                               
authorized  by  the constitution.    She  explained that  it  was                                                               
conveyed  last year  that  there would  be  some minor  technical                                                               
changes this year, and this  is because an executive order cannot                                                               
be amended during  the process, and that Version S  is a clean-up                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:02:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PRAX  withdrew his  objection.    There being  no  further                                                               
objection, Version S was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:03:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE moved  to report  CSHB 60,  Version 33-                                                               
GH1343\S,  Bergerud, 3/21/23,  out of  committee with  individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no objection, CSHB  60(HSS) was reported out of  the House Health                                                               
and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:03:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 5:03 p.m. to 5:05 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:05:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Health  and  Social  Services   Standing  Committee  meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 5:06 p.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 112 Sectional Analysis .pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
HB 112 Sponsor Statement Version B.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
HB0112A.PDF HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
Heidi Hedberg Resume 2023.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB112 HSS Hearing slides 3.23.23.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
HB 60 CS Version S.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 60
HB 60 Sectional Analysis (Version S) 3-23-23.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 60
HB 60 Explanation of Changes Version A to Verson S (3-23-23).pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 60
HB 112 Support as of 3_21 Redacted.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112
HB 112 Fiscal Note DCCED.pdf HHSS 3/23/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 112