02/12/2008 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES
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| HB319 | |
| HB276|| HB279 | |
| HB279 | |
| Presentation on Alzheimer's Disease | |
| Adjourn | 
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| += | HB 319 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HB 276 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | HB 279 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
 HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
                       February 12, 2008                                                                                        
                           3:09 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Bob Roses, Vice Chair                                                                                            
Representative Anna Fairclough                                                                                                  
Representative Wes Keller                                                                                                       
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 319                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to the practice of dentistry and to dental                                                                     
assistants."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     -MOVED CSHB 319(HES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 276                                                                                                              
"An Act extending the termination date of the Alaska Commission                                                                 
on Aging; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     -MOVED HB 276 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 279                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to the duties and powers of the Alaska                                                                         
Commission on Aging and the Department of Health and Social                                                                     
Services."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     -MOVED CSHB 279(HES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION ON ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD, BUT NOT SCHEDULED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 319                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: DENTISTS & DENTAL ASSISTANTS                                                                                       
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) RAMRAS                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
01/15/08       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/15/08       (H)       HES, L&C                                                                                               
02/07/08       (H)       HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
02/07/08       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/07/08       (H)       MINUTE(HES)                                                                                            
02/12/08       (H)       HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 276                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EXTEND ALASKA COMMISSION ON AGING                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) DOLL                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
01/04/08       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/4/08                                                                                
01/15/08       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/15/08       (H)       HES, FIN                                                                                               
02/12/08       (H)       HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 279                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: COMMISSION ON AGING                                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) DOLL, KERTTULA                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/04/08       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/4/08                                                                                
01/15/08       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/15/08       (H)       HES, FIN                                                                                               
02/12/08       (H)       HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PATTY KRUEGER, Staff                                                                                                            
to Representative Jay Ramras                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HB 319, Version K, on behalf of                                                                
Representative Ramras, sponsor.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PAUL SILVEIRA, DMD                                                                                                              
Valdez, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 319.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PETE HIGGINS, DDS; Acting President                                                                                             
Alaska Dental Society                                                                                                           
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 319.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DAVID LOGAN, DDS; Chair                                                                                                         
Alaska Dental Society Legislative Committee                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 319.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDREA DOLL                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HB 276 as the sponsor.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KEN ALPER, Staff                                                                                                                
to Representative Andrea Doll                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing on HB
276.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDREA DOLL                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HB 279 as the sponsor.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BILL HOGAN, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                 
Family, Community, and Integrated Services                                                                                      
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Health & Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing on HB
279.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DENISE DANIELLO, Executive Director                                                                                             
Alaska Commission on Aging (ACoA)                                                                                               
Commissioner's Office                                                                                                           
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 279.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BANARSI LAL, Chair                                                                                                              
Alaska Commission on Aging (ACoA)                                                                                               
Commissioner's Office                                                                                                           
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 279.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PAT DAVIDSON, Legislative Auditor                                                                                               
Legislative Audit Division                                                                                                      
Legislative Agencies & Offices                                                                                                  
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on HB 279.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CONNIE SIPE, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Center for Community                                                                                                            
Sitka, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Presented  a report  from the  Alzheimer's                                                             
Resource of Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE NEWSHAM, Board Member                                                                                                    
Alzheimer's Resource of Alaska                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Gave a  history of  her experience  as the                                                             
caregiver of an Alzheimer's patient.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PEGGY WILSON called the  House Health, Education and Social                                                             
Services  Standing  Committee meeting  to  order  at 3:03:21  PM.                                                             
Representatives Fairclough,  Keller, Seaton, Gardner,  Roses, and                                                               
Wilson were present at the  call to order.  Representative Cissna                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HB 319-DENTISTS & DENTAL ASSISTANTS                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:11:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  319,  "An  Act  relating  to  the  practice  of                                                               
dentistry and to dental assistants."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  moved to  adopt  CSHB  319, Version  25-                                                               
LS1281\K, Bullard,  2/11/08, as a  working document.   Hearing no                                                               
objection, Version K was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:12:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATTY KRUEGER,  Staff to Representative Jay  Ramras, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, presented the  changes to HB 319  that are reflected                                                               
in  Version K.   She  explained  that the  Alaska Dental  Society                                                               
recommended  that  this part  of  the  statute remain  unchanged;                                                               
therefore, Sections 1,  2, and 3, were deleted.   The next change                                                               
was  suggested  by the  committee;  that  the definition  of  the                                                               
duties  of  a   dental  assistant,  versus  those   of  a  dental                                                               
hygienist, should  be more  narrowly defined.   This was  done by                                                               
changes to the  language in AS 08.36.346.   She further explained                                                               
that on page  3, line 30, of Version [E],  the word "subgingival"                                                               
was deleted to correct a drafting error.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:13:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH   asked  for   the  location   of  the                                                               
reference to "subgingival" in Version K.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRUEGER responded  that the  deletion  of "subgingival",  in                                                               
Version K, is on page 2, line 28.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:14:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  asked why  Sections  1,  2, and  3  were                                                               
deleted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRUEGER  explained  that dental  hygienists  function  under                                                               
general  supervision  by  dentists   and  Version  [E]  specified                                                               
"direct"  and "indirect"  supervision; if  the sections  were not                                                               
deleted, the  kind of direction  under which  hygienists function                                                               
would be limited.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:15:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked for public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:15:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL   SILVEIRA,  DMD,   informed  the   committee  that   he  is                                                               
representing  the  Alaska  Dental   Society  and  himself.    His                                                               
practice is  located in Valdez, which  is a very rural  area even                                                               
though it is  located on the road system.   He stated his support                                                               
for HB 319 and explained that  this bill will affect his practice                                                               
and his  patients in a positive  way.  Dr. Silveira's  office has                                                               
been without a  dental hygienist for three months;  this means he                                                               
must do the  work of a hygienist.   He pointed out  that a dental                                                               
office is  a health care facility,  but is also a  small business                                                               
that  must be  profitable for  his  employees and  himself.   Not                                                               
having  a hygienist  means that  he  must spend  time doing  this                                                               
service and the fee for a  "prophy" just covers his overhead.  In                                                               
fact, the Medicaid reimbursement for  this service does not cover                                                               
his cost.  This bill will  allow a dental assistant to do coronal                                                               
polishing and free the dentist's  time for other procedures.  Dr.                                                               
Silveira stressed  that the passage  of this bill will  allow him                                                               
to  better serve  the  needs  of his  patients  and maintain  his                                                               
practice.   Furthermore,  it  is hard  to  attract hygienists  to                                                               
Valdez and  to other  rural areas.   He stated  that he  does not                                                               
have  a problem  with  having his  assistants  certified in  some                                                               
manner; however, a national certification  course would put undue                                                               
restrictions on  those working in  rural areas due to  the travel                                                               
required.   He suggested that certification  by a correspondence,                                                               
or a  distance education,  program would be  best.   Dr. Silveira                                                               
emphasized that  he can not  operate his  practice at a  loss for                                                               
very long.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:22:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  expressed  her  appreciation  of  Dr.                                                               
Silveira's  testimony that,  through this  bill, additional  care                                                               
can  be provided  to those  individuals on  Medicaid.   She asked                                                               
whether he would  support the addition of a sunset  clause to the                                                               
bill in  order to measure the  amount of the increase  in care to                                                               
Medicaid patients.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR.  SILVEIRA said  that he  would not  be opposed;  however, the                                                               
problems with Medicaid are a big subject to discuss.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:23:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  stated that both  Medicare and Medicaid  would "fit                                                               
in."   At this time,  the committee is  looking for ways  to have                                                               
more access to care for constituents.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:24:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  SILVEIRA told  the committee  that he  accepts Medicaid  for                                                               
kids only.   This is because  Medicaid rules are too  arduous and                                                               
the  penalties are  big; these  are problems  in addition  to the                                                               
ridiculously  small reimbursement  amount.   The  bill will  help                                                               
with this problem,  but he opined that he would  not add Medicaid                                                               
patients simply because of the bill.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:25:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  stated  that committee  members  have                                                               
heard  previous testimony  that  HB 319  will  allow dentists  to                                                               
provide additional  care to Medicaid  patients.   She reluctantly                                                               
questioned  the sincerity  of  those who  support  this bill  and                                                               
wondered whether  their support was  in order to make  more money                                                               
or  in  order  to  increase service  for  Medicaid  and  Medicare                                                               
patients.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. SILVEIRA  confirmed that  he could see  more patients  in his                                                               
community.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:27:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON asked  whether a  dentist can  have other  patients                                                               
waiting in case a Medicaid patient  does not show up for the next                                                               
appointment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  SILVEIRA  explained that  he  does  not treat  his  Medicaid                                                               
patients differently than others.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:28:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON said that her suggestion was for more efficiency.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:28:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  SILVEIRA stressed  that this  bill will  allow him  to offer                                                               
more hygiene services  when his practice is  without a hygienist.                                                               
When  he  has   a  hygienist,  the  hygienist,   not  the  dental                                                               
assistant, would probably do the coronal polishing.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:29:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PETE  HIGGINS,  DDS,  Acting President,  Alaska  Dental  Society,                                                               
informed the committee that he is  in favor of the bill; in fact,                                                               
he has been working for the  last few years to increase access to                                                               
care in the  rural areas of the  state.  He said that  there is a                                                               
shortage  of  dental hygienists  in  rural  areas throughout  the                                                               
state and coronal  polishing and the placing  of dental materials                                                               
by dental assistants will certainly  help the dentists working in                                                               
rural  areas.   Dr. Higgins  told the  committee that  the Alaska                                                               
Native corporations  and the federal  government have  been doing                                                               
this  program for  years.    The Alaska  Dental  Society is  also                                                               
working with  Medicaid to  try to get  more dentists  involved in                                                               
the Medicaid program and bring  access to this group of patients.                                                               
House  Bill   319  will  make  serving   Medicaid  patients  more                                                               
economically feasible.   He  opined that  many other  states have                                                               
already adopted this program; Alaska  is always behind the times.                                                               
He concluded that the approval  of expanded duties for assistants                                                               
is needed and is a program that  should go through.  In fact, his                                                               
assistant is certified, but can not  be used in this category due                                                               
to the lack of legislation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON noted  that  the results  of a  study  done by  the                                                               
Department  of   Health  and  Social   Services  (DHSS)   on  the                                                               
reimbursement of Medicaid costs will be released soon.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:34:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. HIGGINS  said that  Alaska is  unique due to  the lack  of an                                                               
extensive road system.   This program will help  to involve local                                                               
dental assistants  that are already  living and working  in rural                                                               
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:35:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON closed testimony.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:35:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES  asked  whether  "direct  supervision",  as                                                               
defined on page 3 of Version K,  means that the dentist is in the                                                               
office where the  patient is, or just in  the building somewhere.                                                               
He requested  that "dental office"  be defined as opposed  to the                                                               
"dental  facility" described  under "indirect  supervision."   He                                                               
expressed his difficulty in  understanding the difference between                                                               
"dental office" and "dental facility".                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:36:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID LOGAN,  DDS, and Chair,  Alaska Dental  Society Legislative                                                               
Committee,  explained  that,  in  the bill  "dental  office"  and                                                               
"dental facility"  are the same.   The definitions  were borrowed                                                               
from the dental  hygienists statutes and that is  the only reason                                                               
for this distinction.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:37:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES remarked:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     So, for  the record, ...  the intent of the  sponsor of                                                                    
     this  bill, and  for  our purposes,  that  the two  are                                                                    
     interchangeable, and  that one can  not later  come and                                                                    
     say 'Well,  I was  in the building  even though  it was                                                                    
     five stories,  I was on  the fifth floor.'   As opposed                                                                    
     to somebody that  at least is in  auditory contact with                                                                    
     somebody  that may  need assistance.    Because, I  see                                                                    
     this  as a  huge  difference and  it's maybe  something                                                                    
     that we need to address.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:38:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. LOGAN said:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Yes, dental office and dental  facility are meant, the,                                                                    
     the  containment of  the dental  office and  any common                                                                    
     areas it shares with  adjacent, generally, other dental                                                                    
     offices; but,  I guess, conceivably, they  have a break                                                                    
     room  or something  like that,  that is  shared with  a                                                                    
     non-dental office.  But, yes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES said he would be offering an amendment.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:38:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON moved  that the  committee adopt  Amendment 1  that                                                               
read [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Conceptual amendment  to require all  Dental Assistants                                                                    
     that  wish  to  become  certified  to  perform  coronal                                                                    
     polishing or  to perform restorative functions  must be                                                                    
     Certified Dental Assistants (CDA).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Certified  Dental  Assistant  -   CDA  means  a  dental                                                                    
     assistant that  has registered  with the  board, passed                                                                    
     the Dental  Assisting National  Board Exam  (DANB), and                                                                    
     maintains   the  credential   (CDA)  by   meeting  DANB                                                                    
     recertification requirements.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:39:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH objected.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:39:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON explained that the  DANB offers three ways to become                                                               
a CDA.   In  addition to  having a  cardiopulmonary resuscitation                                                               
(CPR) certification the  candidate must:  graduate  from a dental                                                               
assisting program; or,  graduate from a high school  and have two                                                               
years experience in  a dental office; or, have  current or former                                                               
certification.  She  noted that much of  the continuing education                                                               
can be done online by those who have work experience.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:41:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER expressed  her understanding  that Alaska                                                               
has working dental  assistants that are not certified.   The bill                                                               
proposes to  allow assistants  to get a  certification to  do two                                                               
functions:  coronal polishing  and  restorative  placement.   She                                                               
opined that this amendment  will require additional certification                                                               
to become a CDA.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:42:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  explained  the three  different  pathways  to  CDA                                                               
certification.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER clarified that there  is a second level of                                                               
achievement, the  CDA certification would  be first and  then the                                                               
coronal polishing certification.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:43:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON read the following:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     This conceptual  amendment would make it  a requirement                                                                    
     for a  dental assistant to  be certified by  the Dental                                                                    
     Assisting National  Board before they  become certified                                                                    
     for coronal  polishing and the restorative  function as                                                                    
     defined  in the  bill.   It  will just  make sure  that                                                                    
     every dental  assistant that is going  to provide these                                                                    
     additional   services   will    have   met   the   same                                                                    
     qualifications.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  stated that her  intent was that  the certification                                                               
would require an "extra step."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:43:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER asked  whether  the conceptual  amendment                                                               
would  require an  overreaching  CDA certification  for a  dental                                                               
assistant's  other functions,  and  then, in  addition, the  bill                                                               
requires that they get the two specific certifications.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON said, " ... that's true."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:44:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  observed that  if the committee  does not                                                               
know  exactly  what   is  certified  now,  it   is  doubling  the                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:44:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON explained  that dental assistants do not  have to be                                                               
certified now,  and if they  want to stay uncertified,  that will                                                               
not be a problem.  However, they  will have to be certified to do                                                               
the extra functions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:44:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  advised  that  is  what  the  bill  does                                                               
without the CDA requirements.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:45:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  questioned the  need for  Amendment 1.   He                                                               
pointed out that  the original bill in Section 3,   AS 08.36.315,                                                               
talks about the revocation of a license, reading:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The  board  may revoke  or  suspend  the license  of  a                                                                    
     dentist  or  may  reprimand, censure  or  discipline  a                                                                    
     dentist,  or  both,  if the  board  finds  that,  after                                                                    
     hearing,  the dentist  engaged  in  the performance  of                                                                    
     patient care  or permitted  the performance  of patient                                                                    
     care by  persons under  the dentist's  supervision that                                                                    
     does not conform to  the minimum professional standards                                                                    
     of dentistry  regardless, of  whether actual  injury to                                                                    
     the patient occurred.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES asked  for  the need  of the  certification                                                               
when the  dentist is not allowed  to have someone perform  a duty                                                               
for which they are not qualified  to perform.  He opined that the                                                               
purpose of the amendment is taken care of in existing statute.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:46:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH asked for a brief at-ease.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:48:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:46 p.m. to 3:48 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON withdrew Amendment 1.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:48:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH warned  that there is a  reason to have                                                               
caution  when the  Medical Board  receives  a financial  benefit.                                                               
She recalled  the previous testimony regarding  the difficulty of                                                               
having a successful dental practice in  a rural area.  She opined                                                               
that  the  three  requirements for  CDA  accreditation  are  good                                                               
standards.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:49:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON cautioned that there is  a need to very careful when                                                               
there  will be  a  monetary gain.   She  advised  that she  would                                                               
contact the chair of the next committee of referral.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:50:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   WILSON  offered   Amendment  2,   as  follows   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     After   board  insert   "that   do   not  require   the                                                                    
     professional skill  of a  licensed dentist  or licensed                                                                    
     dental  hygienist,  including   those  provided  in  AS                                                                    
     08.32.110(c) and this chapter."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  said that this  amendment is offered to  tighten up                                                               
the language in the bill.   Hearing no objection, Amendment 2 was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:51:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  moved that  the committee  adopt Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 3, as follows:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 11;                                                                                                           
          Delete "dental facility"                                                                                              
          Insert "dental office"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:51:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER objected, and  then removed her objection.                                                               
Hearing  no   further  objection,  Conceptual  Amendment   3  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:52:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH observed  that the  next committee  of                                                               
referral is  the author of  the bill.   Therefore, she  said that                                                               
she  will not  offer her  amendment  on a  sunset and  measurable                                                               
goals,  but will  talk with  the sponsor  to confirm  whether the                                                               
intent of the bill is  to provide additional services to Medicare                                                               
and Medicaid recipients.  If so,  a sunset is needed; however, if                                                               
this bill is  to address business practice measures,  a sunset is                                                               
not needed.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:54:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON indicated that she will also talk with the sponsor.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:54:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER observed  that  the bill  will expand  the                                                               
scope of  the responsibilities of  the lowest  paid professionals                                                               
and allow dentists to compete economically.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:55:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  surmised  that  the  holders  of  the                                                               
lowest paid positions  can qualify for a  certificate and elevate                                                               
their value.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:55:31 PM3:56:05 PM                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  opined that dentists  in urban areas will  also use                                                               
this capability, as well.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:56:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ROSES  expressed   his   hope   that  the   bill                                                               
accomplishes its objective.  The  intent was to allow dentists to                                                               
see  more   patients  and,  thereby,  extend   care  to  Medicaid                                                               
recipients.   However; the testimony  was that the bill  will not                                                               
change the issues  with Medicaid.  He advised that  if the sunset                                                               
amendment is  not offered in committee,  he will offer it  on the                                                               
floor.   Representative Roses opined  that the  responsibility of                                                               
the legislature  is to  increase care and  access to  dental care                                                               
for everyone,  not necessarily to  increase the  profitability of                                                               
the dental practices.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:58:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH clarified  that the committee's support                                                               
of  good  business  practices  will  result  in  an  increase  of                                                               
accessibility to care in rural communities.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:58:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH moved  to report  HB 319,  Version 25-                                                               
LS1281\K,  Bullard, 2/11/08,  as amended,  out of  committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
Hearing  no objection,  CSHB  319(HES) was  reported  out of  the                                                               
House Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB 276-EXTEND ALASKA COMMISSION ON AGING                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of HB 279]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:59:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 276,  "An Act extending  the termination  date of                                                               
the Alaska  Commission on Aging;  and providing for  an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:00:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDREA DOLL,  Alaska State  Legislature, speaking                                                               
as the  sponsor of  HB 276,  informed the  committee that  HB 276                                                               
will extend  the sunset  provision for  the Alaska  Commission on                                                               
Aging (ACoA).   She advised  that, five  years ago, the  ACoA was                                                               
moved  from  the  Department  of   Administration  (DOA)  to  the                                                               
Department of Health  and Social Services (DHSS) and  some of the                                                               
commission's responsibilities were  changed.  Representative Doll                                                               
added  that  HB 279  was  recommended  by  the auditors  and  was                                                               
written to enact the conforming language to reflect this move.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:01:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON noted that HB 276 extends the sunset to 2016.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:02:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH asked when  the last time the statewide                                                               
plan was adopted.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:02:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN  ALPER, Staff  to Representative  Andrea  Doll, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, stated  that the plan was  adopted in 2007 and  is a                                                               
four-year plan dated 2008 to 2011.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:03:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH noted  that  there is  support in  the                                                               
legislature for  shorter timeframes so that  the effectiveness of                                                               
programs  can  be  measured;  nevertheless,  she  said  that  she                                                               
supports  the reauthorization  of the  ACoA.   She then  recalled                                                               
that a  former member  of the commission  raised the  question of                                                               
access  to  facilities  for  the aging  population.    She  asked                                                               
whether  the commission's  planning process  addresses access  to                                                               
facilities and long-term care.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:03:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DOLL  referred  the  question  to  the  executive                                                               
director.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked for a motion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:04:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  moved to report  HB 276 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:04 p.m. to 4:05 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being  no objection, HB 276  was reported out of  the House                                                               
Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 279-COMMISSION ON AGING                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 279, "An Act  relating to the duties and powers of                                                               
the Alaska Commission  on Aging and the Department  of Health and                                                               
Social Services."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:05:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDREA DOLL,  Alaska State  Legislature, speaking                                                               
as one of the joint prime sponsors, remarked:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     From  1982,  when  it was  created  through  2003,  the                                                                    
     Alaska  Commission  on  Aging was  located  within  the                                                                    
     Department   of   Administration,   and   because   the                                                                    
     Department   of   Administration   did  not   have   an                                                                    
     independent grant  making authority, the  Commission on                                                                    
     Aging   was  given   granting  power   so  they   could                                                                    
     distribute federal money targeted  at seniors.  In 2003                                                                    
     Governor Murkowski signed Executive  Order 108, we have                                                                    
     a copy of  that with us.  This moved  the Commission on                                                                    
     Aging to the Department  of Health and Social Services.                                                                    
     However, they  already did have  grant making  power so                                                                    
     the executive  order also moved those  functions, grant                                                                    
     making,  to the  Division  of  Senior and  Disabilities                                                                    
     Services  at HSS,  h, s,  s.   The statutes  were never                                                                    
     changed   and this  current law  is written  ... Alaska                                                                    
     Commission    on   Aging    in   the    Department   of                                                                    
     Administration  writing their  own  grants.   In  2006,                                                                    
     when  ACoA   went  through   the  sunset   audit,  from                                                                    
     legislative  audit,  the   auditors    discovered  this                                                                    
     discrepancy.    The  auditors  recommended  making  the                                                                    
     statuary changes conforming to  the changes made by the                                                                    
     Governor  Murkowski.     HB 279  was  written for  this                                                                    
     purpose.  It  was  written  with  the  cooperation  and                                                                    
     participation of  the Alaska Commission on  Aging staff                                                                    
     and  the  senior  officials  at DHSS.    The  bill,  if                                                                    
     passed,  would  codify  the  current  situation.    The                                                                    
     Commission  on Aging  is responsible  for planning  and                                                                    
     advocacy for Alaska's seniors.   The Division of Senior                                                                    
     and   Disabilities   Services    is   responsible   for                                                                    
     administering and distributing federal funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:08:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES  moved  to  adopt  CSHB  279,  Version  25-                                                               
LS1106\E, Mischel, 2/11/08,  as a working document.   There being                                                               
no objection, Version E was before the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  then observed  that the  bill takes  away a                                                               
considerable amount  of authority from  the ACoA, and  asked what                                                               
the commission is left to do.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:09:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL  responded that  the ACoA is  responsible for                                                               
education  and  advocacy; in  fact,  it  has many  functions  for                                                               
seniors as outlined in the state plan.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:09:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  added that this is  a housecleaning bill to  put in                                                               
state statute what is already happening.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:09:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ALPER informed  the committee  that the  only change  in the                                                               
committee substitute is  in Section 3, on page  4, that clarifies                                                               
that the ACoA  is the primary agency responsible  for writing the                                                               
state plan.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES asked whether  the commission members are in                                                               
support of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:10:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked for testimony from DHSS and the ACoA.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:11:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL   HOGAN,  Deputy   Commissioner,   Family,  Community,   and                                                               
Integrated  Services, Office  of the  Commissioner, DHSS,  stated                                                               
that  one  of his  responsibilities  is  to  act as  the  primary                                                               
liaison with  many of the  boards and commissions that  work with                                                               
DHSS.  He  reiterated that the language in HB  279 is intended to                                                               
put  in statute  what has  been in  practice since  the first  of                                                               
July, 2003.   Mr. Hogan highlighted that the bill  gives DHSS the                                                               
responsibility   for   establishing   state   policy   for,   and                                                               
administering  the requirements  of, the  Older Americans  Act of                                                               
1965,  and  the authority  for  administering  grants to  service                                                               
providers that serve  older Alaskans, adult day  care, and family                                                               
and respite care.   He explained that he works  very closely with                                                               
ACoA,  and  meets  with the  executive  director  and  commission                                                               
members on  a regular basis.   In addition, the language  for the                                                               
bill  was developed  in  conjunction  with the  ACoA.   The  most                                                               
recent  change is  to acknowledge  that  the ACoA  still has  the                                                               
primary responsibility  for formulating the state  plan; however,                                                               
DHSS  is  the  state  entity  on   aging  and  has  a  number  of                                                               
responsibilities in that  regard.  Mr. Hogan  concluded by saying                                                               
that DHSS is very supportive of HB 279.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:13:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DENISE DANIELLO, Executive Director,  Alaska Commission on Aging,                                                               
expressed the  commission's support for HB  279.  This bill  is a                                                               
reflection of  current practice;  in fact,  the bill  was crafted                                                               
primarily  by  the former  commission  chair.   She  assured  the                                                               
committee  that the  ACoA plays  an undiminished  role for  older                                                               
Alaskans.  Because it does not  serve as a grant making body, the                                                               
ACoA is now able  to focus on statewide planning and  to act as a                                                               
strong advocate  for caregivers and  seniors.  Ms.  Daniello told                                                               
the  committee  that  the  ACoA  hosts  quarterly  meetings  with                                                               
caregivers  and  providers to  talk  about  senior issues.    Its                                                               
members  also  advocate  before legislators,  the  governor,  and                                                               
DHSS,  regarding  issues  concerning   older  Alaskans  such  as:                                                               
legislation  to  strengthen  the  senior  benefits  program;  the                                                               
creation  of  the  office  of  Advocacy;  strengthening  laws  to                                                               
prevent crimes of identify theft  against seniors; and supporting                                                               
stable  funding  for  many  senior   services.    The  ACoA  also                                                               
advocates to the congressional delegation  on federal issues such                                                               
as workforce  development and Medicare reimbursement  rates.  Its                                                               
other  responsibilities are  to provide  recommendations to  DHSS                                                               
and to the  Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority,  and to provide                                                               
local community  education.  Ms.  Daniello assured  the committee                                                               
that the ACoA supports HB 279.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:17:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BANARSI LAL,  Chair, ACoA,  DHSS, expressed  his belief  that the                                                               
concerns about  the changes brought  by Executive Order  108 were                                                               
unfounded.  He  opined that grant making took a  lot of time away                                                               
from the  ACoA's primary functions:  to be  the eyes and  ears of                                                               
seniors in Alaska;  to educate seniors about  the availability of                                                               
existing services;  and to  advocate for  their needs.   Instead,                                                               
the ACoA  is now  able to solicit  seniors for  information about                                                               
their needs  and to produce  the state plan.   The state  plan is                                                               
submitted  to  the  commissioner  of  the  DHSS,  the  governor's                                                               
office,  and to  the  Region  10 office  of  the Older  Americans                                                               
Program.   Mr. Lal noted  that the small  board and staff  of the                                                               
ACoA have the  drive and interest to produce the  state plan.  In                                                               
2006,  the  White  House Conference  on  Aging  sponsored  forums                                                               
throughout   the  state   and   the   commission  gathered   more                                                               
information from  seniors.   He then  spoke of  the value  of the                                                               
legislative audit report  and said that he is  very supportive of                                                               
HB 279.   Mr. Lal  encouraged the  committee to take  a long-term                                                               
position on  the growing  needs of the  senior population  and to                                                               
study the  recommendations in  the ACoA's  state plan  and annual                                                               
report.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:22:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON asked  for concurrence  from the  Legislative Audit                                                               
Division.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:23:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAT  DAVIDSON, Legislative  Auditor, Legislative  Audit Division,                                                               
Legislative Agencies  & Offices, informed the  committee that she                                                               
was representing the Division of  Legislative Audit as it relates                                                               
to  HB 279.    She  stated that  the  audit  recommends that  the                                                               
statutes   be   changed   for    those   areas   that   represent                                                               
administration  of the  grants.   The sections  in the  bill that                                                               
reflect changes to the grants support the audit recommendations.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON closed testimony.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:24:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  moved  to  report  HB  279,  Version  25-                                                               
LS1106\E,  Mischel, 2/11/08,  out  of  committee with  individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying  zero fiscal notes.   There                                                               
being no objection,  CSHB 279(HES) was reported out  of the House                                                               
Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation on Alzheimer's disease                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:25:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
a  presentation on  Alzheimer's disease.    She said  that it  is                                                               
important to know that in  the future the biggest population will                                                               
be the senior population.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:25:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CONNIE SIPE,  Executive Director, Center for  Community, informed                                                               
the committee that she was  representing the Alzheimer's Resource                                                               
of  Alaska.   She  explained  that  ADRD stands  for  Alzheimer's                                                               
Disease and  Related Dementias (ADRD).   Alzheimer's  Resource of                                                               
Alaska  is  a  beneficiary  of the  Alaska  Mental  Health  Trust                                                               
Authority because ADRD was originally  treated as mental illness.                                                               
Ms.  Sipe told  the committee  that dementia  is an  irreversible                                                               
cognitive  disease  of  the  brain  and  there  are  many  kinds,                                                               
although they  are usually all  called Alzheimer's.   Alzheimer's                                                               
is  usually diagnosed  by  the following  symptoms:  the loss  of                                                               
short term memory,  the loss of spoken and  written language, the                                                               
loss  of the  ability to  plan, and  the loss  of the  ability to                                                               
process visual information.   She continued to  explain that many                                                               
other  diseases have  components of  dementia, and  diagnosis and                                                               
competent medical  care is  important at the  early stage  of the                                                               
disease.   Alzheimer's is  a fatal disease  and the  average life                                                               
lived after diagnosis is eight years.   Ms. Sipe pointed out that                                                               
one  in two  of  every  person over  the  age  of eighty-five  is                                                               
affected;  there are  approximately five  thousand Alaskans  with                                                               
some  dementia, and  seventy-five percent  are in  their family's                                                               
care.     Alzheimer's   and   Related   Dementias  patients   are                                                               
particularly difficult to  care for due to the  complexity of the                                                               
disease  and  the  possibility of  violent  behavior.    Alaska's                                                               
Pioneer  Homes  are   experts  in  the  care   of  patients  with                                                               
dementias.    Families  and patients  use  state  services,  when                                                               
available, such as:   day care; assisted living  homes; and Meals                                                               
on Wheels.  Family care is  often the only choice as many nursing                                                               
homes  can not  handle  Alzheimer's patients.    She stated  that                                                               
dementia  is   a  broad  spectrum   disease,  and  there   is  no                                                               
prevention, cure,  or treatment.   However, some  medications can                                                               
help to  slow the  worsening of symptoms,  or to  relieve anxiety                                                               
and depression.   Ms. Sipe stressed the high  level of importance                                                               
of  Medicaid waiver  coverage for  people  with Alzheimer's;  she                                                               
stated her hope that members  will follow the progress of waivers                                                               
and will  fund the  proposed first increase  in senior  grants in                                                               
ten years.  She opined that  $1.5 million put in the general fund                                                               
will fund the grants to families.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:36:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE  NEWSHAM, Member,  Alzheimer's Resource  of Alaska  Board,                                                               
explained that  she is a  caregiver; her father  has Alzheimer's.                                                               
She described  her experiences with  her father who  suffers from                                                               
violent  and destructive  outbursts.   She said  that she  had to                                                               
leave  work to  care for  him, at  the loss  of her  benefits and                                                               
insurance,  and  listed  the many  difficulties  her  family  has                                                               
endured, without  respite or a suitable  alternative for housing,                                                               
in order to  provide his care.   She now gets ten  hours per week                                                               
of respite relief.  However, she  must be with him constantly and                                                               
the cost  of his  care takes  ten percent  of the  family income;                                                               
this has led to significant money difficulties for her family.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:46:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. NEWSHAM  continued to relate  the difficulty of life  for her                                                               
family while  she is  providing her father's  care.   She pointed                                                               
out that  the median  income for caregivers  is $44,000  per year                                                               
and average expenses to care for  a person, disabled in this or a                                                               
similar way, is $5,500 per year.   Ms. Newsham said that $700 per                                                               
year from  the state  is a small  price to pay  to enable  her to                                                               
continue to care  for her father.   Her choice is to  do this for                                                               
her family but she needs state support to continue.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:49:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SIPE explained that the  state can help families fulfill this                                                               
role with Medicaid waivers and a higher level of respite care.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:50:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. NEWSHAM told of her experiences  that are similar to those of                                                               
other caregivers.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:52:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  related  her  personal  experience  with  dementia                                                               
patients.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:53:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. NEWSHAM  noted that  the health of  caregivers, due  to sleep                                                               
deprivation and other  issues, is also a problem.   She concluded                                                               
by  encouraging  the committee  to  restore  the proposed  budget                                                               
increase to the Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:54:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Health, Education and Social  Services Standing Committee meeting                                                               
was adjourned at 4:55:21 PM.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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