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04/13/2015 04:00 PM CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB72 AND HB73

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04:03:31 PM Start
04:18:19 PM Adjourn
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HB 72 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS
Heard & Held
HB 73 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET
Heard & Held
Department Closeouts
- Dept. of Environmental Conservation
- Dept. of Labor & Workforce Development
- Dept. of Law
- Dept. of Military & Veterans' Affairs
- Dept. of Public Safety
- Dept. of Revenue
- Judiciary
- Governor
- Debt Service
               29TH ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
                       FIRST SESSION                                                                                            
           CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB72 and HB73                                                                                
                      April 13, 2015                                                                                            
                         4:03 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:03:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman called the Conference Committee meeting on                                                                         
HB72 and HB73 to order at 4:03 p.m                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
House:                                                                                                                          
Representative Mark Neuman, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senate:                                                                                                                         
Senator Pete Kelly, Vice-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Anna MacKinnon                                                                                                          
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
David Teal,  Director, Legislative Finance  Division; fiscal                                                                    
analysts  with  the  Office of  Management  and  Budget  and                                                                    
Legislative  Finance   Division;  and  aides   to  committee                                                                    
members and other members of the Legislature.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 72     APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          HB 72 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 73     APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 73 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 72(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain programs and  capitalizing funds; and providing                                                                    
     for an effective date."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 72(FIN) am S                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain  programs  and   capitalizing  funds;  amending                                                                    
     appropriations; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
and                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 73(FIN)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 73(FIN)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENTS                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Environmental Conservation                                                                                                 
     Office of the Governor                                                                                                     
     Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                            
     Law                                                                                                                        
     Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                              
     Public Safety                                                                                                              
     Revenue                                                                                                                    
     Judiciary                                                                                                                  
     Debt Service                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Neuman  communicated  that the  conference  committee                                                                    
would be  meeting on HB  72 and HB  73 open items.  He noted                                                                    
that Limited Powers  of Free Conference had  been granted by                                                                    
both the Senate  and the House. Departments  with open items                                                                    
would be taken up based  on the motion sheets distributed to                                                                    
members earlier  in the  day and dated  //. He  relayed that                                                                    
the conference  committee would not address  open items from                                                                    
the following departments during the current meeting:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:05:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the  following items for the  Department of Environmental                                                                    
Conservation budget:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Item 1    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 2    House                                                                                                                 
Item 3    House                                                                                                                 
Item 4    Senate                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Environmental Conservation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:05:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on  the  following items  for  the  Office of  the  Governor                                                                    
budget:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Item 1    House                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed all conferencable items in  the budget for the Office                                                                    
of Governor.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:05:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on  the following  items  for the  Department  of Labor  and                                                                    
Workforce Development budget:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Item 1    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 2    House  on   both  fund  sources  and   remove  the                                                                    
language specifying a PCN                                                                                                       
Item 3    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 4    House minus $50.0 thousand                                                                                            
Item 5    House                                                                                                                 
Item 6    Senate minus $60.0 thousand                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  OBJECTED to  item  6,  and explained  a                                                                    
possible  conflict   of  interest,  through   her  husband's                                                                    
association.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:06:48 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:07:00 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Kelly restated  that  Item 6  was "Senate  minus                                                                    
$60.0 thousand."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  OBJECTED  to  Items 1  through  4.  He                                                                    
wondered if  the identified PCN  language had  been removed.                                                                    
Vice-Chair Kelly replied in the affirmative.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly explained that Item  2 only referred to one                                                                    
line  with  a PCN.  He  remarked  that  a staff  member  was                                                                    
indicating in  the affirmative,  therefore the  PCN language                                                                    
was removed from Item 2.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  explained  that  there  was  a  deputy                                                                    
commissioner  position   that  was  removed  in   the  House                                                                    
version,  but   the  committee  was  accepting   the  Senate                                                                    
version's removal of the PCN language.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara REMOVED his objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being  NO further  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The                                                                    
action closed all conferencable items  in the budget for the                                                                    
Department of Labor and Workforce Development.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:08:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for the Department of Law budget:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Item 1    Senate                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Law.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:09:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY & VETERANS' AFFAIRS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the  following items for  the Department of  Military and                                                                    
Veterans Affairs:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Item 1    House                                                                                                                 
Item 2    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 3    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 4    House                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for the Department of Public Safety.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Item 1    Senate plus $170.0 thousand and 1 PCN                                                                                 
Item 2    House                                                                                                                 
Item 3    House                                                                                                                 
Item 4    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 5    Senate                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:09:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson OBJECTED  to Item 4. He stated  that the House                                                                    
recommendation for funding the  Council on Domestic Violence                                                                    
was $1.5  million, and the  Senate version zeroed  out those                                                                    
funds.  He  explained  that $1.5  million  covered  all  the                                                                    
prevention programs  in the state. Without  the funds, there                                                                    
would be  no prevention programs  in the state.  The Council                                                                    
on  Domestic  Violence would  not  be  able to  publish  the                                                                    
Alaska  Victimization  Study,  and without  the  funds,  the                                                                    
state  was  only able  to  react  to violence,  rather  than                                                                    
prevent  violence.  He urged  the  committee  to accept  the                                                                    
House funding.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  agreed with Senator Olson.  He wondered                                                                    
what would  happen to the  Council on Domestic  Violence and                                                                    
Sexual Assault (CDVSA) without the $1.5 million.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman stated  that he did not  oversee the Department                                                                    
of Public Safety (DPS) budget.  He understood that his focus                                                                    
was  only  related  to budget  reductions.  He  queried  the                                                                    
balance on the CDVSA budget.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal explained that the  CDVSA request from the governor                                                                    
was  $3 million;  the House  decreased it  by half;  and the                                                                    
Senate reduced it to zero.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman  surmised that  there would  be zero  funds for                                                                    
CDVSA.  Mr.  Teal  replied  that CDVSA  still  had  its  own                                                                    
budget, and  this request was  only for the $3  million from                                                                    
the governor's office.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator MacKinnon  recalled that  the CDVSA had  $16 million                                                                    
in operating costs.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson stressed  that the  prevention programs  were                                                                    
important aspects of the CDVSA.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman  explained that a  "yes" vote would  accept the                                                                    
recommendation of the Conference Committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:13:35 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:14:27 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:14:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman  restated that  a "yes"  vote would  accept the                                                                    
Senate version for Item 4.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken accept the recommendation by the                                                                    
committee for Item 4.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: MacKinnon, Kelly, Thompson, Neuman                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Gara, Olson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (Senate 2/1;  House 2/1). There  being NO                                                                    
further  OBJECTION,  the  recommendation by  the  Conference                                                                    
Committee for Item 4 was accepted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara OBJECTED  to Item 2. He  queried the two                                                                    
locations of the wildlife positions.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Teal explained  that any  identifiers were  removed. He                                                                    
explained that  it only referred  to two  unknown positions.                                                                    
It  would  be  up  to  the  department  where  the  position                                                                    
eliminations would occur.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  felt  that  the  positions  should  be                                                                    
removed in Wrangell and Haines. He REMOVED his objection.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being  NO further  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The                                                                    
action closed all conferencable items  in the budget for the                                                                    
Department of Public Safety.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:16:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for the Department of Revenue.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Item 1    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 2    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 3    Senate for all fund sources                                                                                           
Item 4    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 5    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 6    Senate                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Revenue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:17:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUDICIARY                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for Alaska Judiciary System.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Item 1    Senate                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed all conferencable items in  the budget for the Alaska                                                                    
Judiciary System.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:17:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBT SERVICE                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for the Debt Service.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Item 1    Senate                                                                                                                
Item 2    Senate                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in the  budget  for  Debt                                                                    
Service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Chair Neuman relayed that the  next meeting would be held on                                                                    
Tuesday, April 14, 4pm.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HB  72  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  73  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
4:18:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 4:18 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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