Legislature(2013 - 2014)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/09/2013 04:00 PM CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB 65 AND HB 66


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05:32:43 PM Start
05:43:14 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 5:30 p.m. Today --
= HB 65 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS
Heard & Held
= HB 66 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET
Heard & Held
- Dept. of Administration
- Dept. of Corrections
- Dept. of Environmental Conservation
- Dept. of Labor & Workforce Development
- Dept. of Law
- Dept. of Transportation & Public Facilities
- Salary Adjustments
- Fund Capitalizations
- Fund Transfers
- Mental Health Capital Projects
               28TH ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
                       FIRST SESSION                                                                                            
          CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB 65 and HB 66                                                                               
                       April 9, 2013                                                                                            
                         5:32 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:32:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Chair Austerman called the Conference Committee meeting on                                                                      
HB 65 and HB 66 to order at 5:32 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
House:                                                                                                                          
Representative Alan Austerman, Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze                                                                                                     
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senate:                                                                                                                         
Senator Pete Kelly, Vice-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
David Teal,  Director, Legislative Finance  Division; fiscal                                                                    
analysts  with  the  Office of  Management  and  Budget  and                                                                    
Legislative  Finance   Division;  and  aides   to  committee                                                                    
members and other members of the Legislature.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 65     APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          HB 65 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 66     APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 66 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 65(FIN)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain  programs,   capitalizing  funds,   and  making                                                                    
     reappropriations;  and   providing  for   an  effective                                                                    
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 65(FIN)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain  programs,   capitalizing  funds,   and  making                                                                    
     reappropriations;  and   providing  for   an  effective                                                                    
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
and                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 66(FIN)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive  mental  health   program  and  making  a                                                                    
     reappropriation; and providing for an effective date."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 66(FIN)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive  mental  health   program  and  making  a                                                                    
     reappropriation; and providing for an effective date."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENTS                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Department of Corrections                                                                                                  
     Department of Environmental Conservation                                                                                   
     Department of Labor and Workforce Development                                                                              
     Department of Law                                                                                                          
    Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                          
5:32:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair Austerman  communicated that the  conference committee                                                                    
would be  meeting on HB  65 and HB  66 open items.  He noted                                                                    
that Limited Powers  of Free Conference had  been granted by                                                                    
both the Senate  and the House. Departments  with open items                                                                    
would be taken up based  on the motion sheets distributed to                                                                    
members earlier  in the day  and dated 04/04/13.  He relayed                                                                    
that the  conference committee would not  address open items                                                                    
from the  following departments during the  current meeting:                                                                    
the   Department  of   Commerce,   Community  and   Economic                                                                    
Development,   the  Department   of   Education  and   Early                                                                    
Development,   the  Department   of  Fish   and  Game,   the                                                                    
Department of Health and Social  Services, the Department of                                                                    
Military  and Veterans  Affairs, the  Department of  Natural                                                                    
Resources, the  Department of Public Safety,  the Department                                                                    
of  Revenue,  the University  of  Alaska,  the Alaska  Court                                                                    
System, and the Legislature.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:34:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on   the    following   items   for   the    Department   of                                                                    
Administration's budget:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    House                                                                                                            
     Item 2    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 3    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 4    House                                                                                                            
     Item 5    Senate minus $300.0                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:34:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:35:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the  following items for  the Department  of Corrections'                                                                    
budget:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:35:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Correction.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:35:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the  following items for the  Department of Environmental                                                                    
Conservation's budget:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 2    House                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:35:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Environmental Conservation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR & WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:35:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on  the  following  items  for the  Department  of  Labor  &                                                                    
Workforce Development's budget:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    House                                                                                                            
     Item 2    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 3    Senate minus $50.0                                                                                               
     Item 4    Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:36:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Labor & Workforce Development.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:36:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for the Department of Law's budget:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    House                                                                                                            
     Item 2    House                                                                                                            
     Item 3    House                                                                                                            
     Item 4    House                                                                                                            
     Item 5    House                                                                                                            
     Item 6    House                                                                                                            
     Item 7    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 8    House                                                                                                            
     Item 9    Senate minus $500.0                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:36:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  OBJECTED for the purpose  of discussion. He                                                                    
commented  on the  Department  of  Law's Criminal  Division,                                                                    
particularly regarding the  prosecuting attorneys in Juneau,                                                                    
Fairbanks, and  Bethel. He understood the  need to "tighten"                                                                    
the operating budget items, but  expressed concerns that the                                                                    
problems  would  still  exist   in  Juneau,  Fairbanks,  and                                                                    
Bethel;  he opined  that the  legislature should  figure out                                                                    
how   to  address   those  problems   in   the  future.   He                                                                    
acknowledged the  financial constraints  that the  state was                                                                    
facing.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:37:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:37:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara OBJECTED for  the purpose of discussion.                                                                    
He noted that  Item 8, which was for  the complex litigation                                                                    
on oil  and gas, was $2  million less than the  governor had                                                                    
requested; however,  the intention  with the  intention with                                                                    
this  item was  to  have the  other $2  million  put in  the                                                                    
capital  budget, which  seemed  appropriate.  He pointed  to                                                                    
Item 9, which  was for the work of experts  and attorneys in                                                                    
order to move  the possible "big gasline"  forward; he hoped                                                                    
that if the governor needed  additional funds for this item,                                                                    
it would  be requested  in a  supplemental. He  offered that                                                                    
that the compromise seemed reasonable.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:38:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:38:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being  NO further  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The                                                                    
action closed all conferencable items  in the budget for the                                                                    
Department of Law.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION & PUBLIC FACILITIES:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:38:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for  the Department of Transportation                                                                    
and Public Facilities' budget:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    House                                                                                                            
     Item 2    House                                                                                                            
     Item 3    House                                                                                                            
     Item 4    House and change "FY2015" to "FY2016"                                                                            
     Item 5    House                                                                                                            
     Item 6    Senate minus $175.0                                                                                              
     Item 7    Senate minus $108.4                                                                                              
     Item 8    Senate minus $44.6                                                                                               
     Item 9    Senate minus $81.8                                                                                               
     Item 10  Senate minus $102.0                                                                                               
     Item 11  House plus $650.0                                                                                                 
     Item 12   House plus $250.0                                                                                                
     Item 13   House plus $30.0                                                                                                 
     Item 14   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 15   Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:40:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Transportation and Public Facilities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SALARY ADJUSTMENTS:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:40:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on  the  following  items   for  the  following  Branch-wide                                                                    
Contractual Salary Adjustments:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 2    Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:40:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Branch-wide Contractual Salary Adjustment items.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
FUND CAPITALIZATIONS:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:40:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for  the Fund Capitalizations subject                                                                    
to Conference:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate minus $1 million                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:41:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed all  conferencable items in  the budget for  the Fund                                                                    
Capitalization item subject to Conference.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
FUND TRANSFERS:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:41:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the  following items  for the  Fund Transfers  subject to                                                                    
Conference:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 2    House                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:41:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed all  conferencable items in  the budget for  the Fund                                                                    
Transfers subject to Conference.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:41:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MENTAL HEALTH CAPITAL BUDGET HB 66:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT the  Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for  the Mental Health Capital Budget                                                                    
items in HB 66:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 2    House                                                                                                            
     Item 3    House                                                                                                            
     Item 4    House                                                                                                            
     Item 5    House & change GF to GF Mental Health                                                                            
     Item 6    House & change GF to GF Mental Health                                                                            
     Item 7    House                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:42:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all conferencable  capital budget  items for  HB 66,                                                                    
the Mental Health Capital Budget.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair Austerman  anticipated that the next  meeting would be                                                                    
on Wednesday,  April 10th at  4:00 p.m. and related  that it                                                                    
would be noticed on BASIS.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:43:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Austerman queried  if there  was any  other business,                                                                    
questions, or comments from committee members                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Kelly  MOVED   to  ADJOURN.   There  being   NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HB  65  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  66  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:43:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 5:43 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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