Legislature(2015 - 2016)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/14/2016 04:00 PM CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB256 AND HB257

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04:59:05 PM Start
05:13:16 PM Adjourn
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HB 256 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS
Heard & Held
HB 257 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET
Heard & Held
Departments:
- Dept. of Environmental Conservation
- Dept. of Labor & Workforce Development
- Dept. of Law
- Dept. of Public Safety
- University of Alaska
               29TH ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
                      SECOND SESSION                                                                                            
         CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB 256 and HB 257                                                                              
                      April 14, 2016                                                                                            
                         4:59 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:59:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Chair Kelly called the Conference Committee meeting on                                                                          
HB256 and HB257 to order at 4:59 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senate:                                                                                                                         
Senator Pete Kelly, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Anna MacKinnon                                                                                                          
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
House:                                                                                                                          
Representative Mark Neuman, Vice-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
David Teal,  Director, Legislative Finance  Division; fiscal                                                                    
analysts  with  the  Office of  Management  and  Budget  and                                                                    
Legislative  Finance   Division;  and  aides   to  committee                                                                    
members and other members of the Legislature.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 256    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          HB 256 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 257    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 257 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENTS:                                                                                                                    
     ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                                                 
     LABOR & WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT                                                                                              
     LAW                                                                                                                        
     PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                              
     UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 256(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;   repealing    appropriations;   making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations;  and   providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 256(FIN)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;   repealing    appropriations;   making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations;  and   providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
and                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 257(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive    mental    health    program;    making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations;  and   providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 257(FIN)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:59:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair Kelly called the meeting to order.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Kelly  communicated  that  the  conference  committee                                                                    
would be meeting  on HB 256 and HB 257  open items. He noted                                                                    
that Limited Powers  of Free Conference had  been granted by                                                                    
both the Senate and the House.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara stated  that  it was  his intention  to                                                                    
object to some items, but  for purposes of expediency he did                                                                    
not want a  roll call vote on all the  items he objected to.                                                                    
He  clarified that  the removal  of his  objection [for  the                                                                    
purpose  of  not  calling  a vote]  would  not  signify  his                                                                    
support for the item in question.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Chair Kelly  appreciated the idea, and  asked Representative                                                                    
Gara  to indicate  if he  wanted to  take a  break for  more                                                                    
discussion on  individual items, or  if he wanted a  vote on                                                                    
the item in question.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Chair Kelly  communicated that  departments with  open items                                                                    
would be taken up based  on the motion sheets distributed to                                                                    
members  earlier in  the day  and dated  April 14,  2016. He                                                                    
specified  that  the  committee   could  be  addressing  the                                                                    
following    departments:   Department    of   Environmental                                                                    
Conservation,    Department   of    Labor   and    Workforce                                                                    
Development,  Department   of  Law,  Department   of  Public                                                                    
Safety, and the University of Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:01:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman MOVED to  ADOPT the Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the  following items for the  Department of Environmental                                                                    
Conservation's budget:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Item 1    House                                                                                                       
          Item 2    Senate                                                                                                      
          Item 3    Senate                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. The  action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Environmental Conservation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:01:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR and WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman MOVED to  ADOPT the Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on  the following  items  for the  Department  of Labor  and                                                                    
Workforce Development budget:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Hold                                                                                                             
     Item 2    House plus $100 thousand                                                                                         
     Item 3    House                                                                                                            
     Item 4    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 5    Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  OBJECTED. He  asked that  the committee                                                                    
consider  holding Item  3, which  was  intent language  that                                                                    
specified that  the construction academy should  expect that                                                                    
within  a few  years there  would  be no  general fund  (GF)                                                                    
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Kelly  agreed   to  hold  Item  3.   There  being  NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being NO  further OBJECTION, it was  so ordered. Items                                                                    
2, 4, and  5 were ADOPTED. This action left  open Item 1 and                                                                    
Item   3   for  the   Department   of   Labor  &   Workforce                                                                    
Development's budget.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:03:11 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:03:51 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Chair Kelly re-stated  that Item 1 and Item 3  were held for                                                                    
action at a later time. Items 2, 4, 5 were adopted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:04:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman MOVED to  ADOPT the Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following items for the Department of Law's budget:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    House                                                                                                            
     Item 2    Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being  NO OBJECTION,  it was  so ordered.  This action                                                                    
closed  all  conferencable  items  in  the  budget  for  the                                                                    
Department of Law.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:04:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman MOVED to  ADOPT the Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following  items for the Department  of Public Safety                                                                    
budget:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Hold                                                                                                             
     Item 2    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 3    Senate plus $160 thousand                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:05:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman OBJECTED. He stated  that he had chaired the                                                                    
Senate  Finance Subcommittee  on  the  Department of  Public                                                                    
Safety, and requested that the committee hold Item 2.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Chair Kelly  agreed to hold Item  2 for a later  date. There                                                                    
being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being NO  further OBJECTION, Item 3  was ADOPTED. This                                                                    
action left  open Item 1  and Item  2 for the  Department of                                                                    
Public Safety's budget.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:05:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman MOVED to  ADOPT the Chair's recommendation                                                                    
on the following  items for the Department  of University of                                                                    
Alaska budget:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Items 1 through 9        Hold                                                                                              
     Item 10                  House                                                                                             
     Items 11 and 12          Hold                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  OBJECTED. He  stated that  the governor                                                                    
had proposed a $15 million  cut to the University, which had                                                                    
been cut for a number of  years. He continued that the House                                                                    
had  added  an additional  $35  million  cut (to  total  $50                                                                    
million in cuts)  to the University general  fund, which was                                                                    
almost  20 percent  of the  university's  general fund.  His                                                                    
concern was  that the state  was building a  university that                                                                    
people would  not want to go  to, and talent would  be lost.                                                                    
He  pointed out  that the  University generated  grant funds                                                                    
and  outside  funds. He  reiterated  his  opposition to  the                                                                    
amount of the cut.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MAINTAINED his  OBJECTION. He asked that                                                                    
the committee consider holding Item 10.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman OBJECTED to holding Item 10.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Hoffman, Neuman, Kelly, Thompson, MacKinnon                                                                           
OPPOSED: Gara                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (5/1). Item 10 was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:08:58 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:09:19 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION,  Item 10 was ADOPTED. This                                                                    
action left  open Items 1  through 9,  Item 11, and  Item 12                                                                    
for the University of Alaska's budget.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  thought  he  may  have  read  an  item                                                                    
incorrectly, and  requested that  the committee  re-open the                                                                    
budget for the Department of Law.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it  was so ordered. The budget for                                                                    
the Department of Law was reopened for consideration.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara   understood  that  for  Item   1,  the                                                                    
committee  had adopted  the  restoration  of the  Dillingham                                                                    
district  attorney's   office  through  picking   the  House                                                                    
number.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Chair Kelly  confirmed that  the recommendation  for "House"                                                                    
for  Item   1  was   adopted,  and  contained   funding  for                                                                    
restoration of the Dillingham office.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:11:05 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:11:20 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  stated  that   he  had  concluded  his                                                                    
remarks on Item 1 of the budget for the Department of Law.                                                                      
Senator  MacKinnon asked  if  the  committee would  consider                                                                    
holding  Item 1  open for  the budget  of the  Department of                                                                    
Law.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. Item  1 was                                                                    
held open for the budget of the Department of Law.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:11:49 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:12:03 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman MOVED to RESCIND  the action on Item 1 for                                                                    
the Department of  Law. There being NO OBJECTION,  it was so                                                                    
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator MacKinnon asked to hold  open Item 1. There being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was  so ordered. Item 1 for the  budget of the                                                                    
Department of Law was held open.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Chair Kelly relayed  that the next meeting would  be held on                                                                    
April 15th at 4:00 p.m. and it will be noticed on BASIS.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  256  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  257  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
5:13:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 5:13 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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