Legislature(2025 - 2026)GRUENBERG 120

03/20/2025 10:00 AM House FISHERIES

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                            
                         March 20, 2025                                                                                         
                           10:02 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Louise Stutes, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
Representative Bill Elam                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 129                                                                                                              
"An  Act  relating  to  the  fisheries  product  development  tax                                                               
credit;  providing   for  an  effective  date   by  amending  the                                                               
effective date of sec. 2, ch.  31, SLA 2022; and providing for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 129                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: FISHERIES PROD DEVELOPMENT TAX CREDIT                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): FISHERIES BY REQUEST OF TASK FORCE EVAL ALASKA                                                                      
SEAFOOD INDUSTRY                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MATT GRUENING, Staff                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   On behalf of the  Joint Legislative Seafood                                                             
Industry Taskforce, introduced HB 129                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
STEPHANIE MORELAND, Executive Vice President                                                                                    
Trident Seafoods                                                                                                                
Seattle, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Gave invited  testimony in  support of  HB
129.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JULIE DECKER, President                                                                                                         
Pacific Seafood Processors Association                                                                                          
Seattle, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Gave invited  testimony in  support of  HB
129.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TOMI MARSH, Member                                                                                                              
E.C. Phillips and Son                                                                                                           
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Gave invited  testimony in  support of  HB
129.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DAN STICKEL, Chief Economist                                                                                                    
Department of Revenue                                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Answered  questions  regarding tax  credit                                                             
utilization relevant to HB 129.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:02:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LOUISE  STUTES  called  the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                             
Fisheries  meeting  to  order  at  10:02  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
Stutes, Himschoot, Kopp, McCabe, Vance,  and Elam were present at                                                               
the call to order.   Representative Edgmon arrived as the meeting                                                               
was in progress.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          HB 129-FISHERIES PROD DEVELOPMENT TAX CREDIT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:03:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 129,  "An Act relating  to the  fisheries product                                                               
development  tax  credit;  providing  for an  effective  date  by                                                               
amending the  effective date  of sec.  2, ch.  31, SLA  2022; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:04:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MATT GRUENING, Staff, Alaska State  Legislature, on behalf of the                                                               
Joint Legislative Seafood Industry  Taskforce, introduced HB 129.                                                               
He  said  that this  legislation  aims  to expand  the  fisheries                                                               
product  development   tax  credit.    This   would  continue  to                                                               
encourage value  added products and  foster new  technologies and                                                               
processes  that add  to  the  value and  quality  of Alaska  fish                                                               
products.  He  said that the tax credit program  has morphed over                                                               
the  years.     Initially  it  started  as   the  Salmon  Product                                                               
Development Tax with passage of  House Bill 90 during the Twenty-                                                               
Third  Alaska State  Legislature.   Herring was  included in  the                                                               
program in  2014, and the  credit program  became what it  is now                                                               
with  the passage  of  Senate Bill  33  during the  Thirty-Second                                                               
Alaska State Legislature.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING said  that  the current  credit  system allows  the                                                               
processor to  deduct up to  50 percent of its  Fisheries Business                                                               
Tax   Liability  with   the  purchase   of  new   equipment  used                                                               
predominately in  the production  of value-added products.   This                                                               
would also include  any derivatives from waste  streams from fish                                                               
such  as salmon,  herring, pollock,  sablefish, and  pacific cod.                                                               
He  said that  pursuant recommendations  7A and  7B of  the Joint                                                               
Legislative  Taskforce on  Evaluating  Alaska's Seafood  Industry                                                               
would expand the  use of tax credits for all  species of fish and                                                               
shellfish.   It  would  add a  new qualifier  to  the credit  and                                                               
requires  a fast  determination  of credit  eligibility from  the                                                               
Department of Revenue.  HB 129  would also extend the sunset date                                                               
of the credit by three years.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING stated that the passage  of HB 129 would enhance the                                                               
ability  of Alaska  seafood processors  to  acquire capital  cost                                                               
recovery for  installing new  equipment installations  and making                                                               
investments to "get more value out  of each fish."  During a time                                                               
of historically poor  market conditions and low  value for Alaska                                                               
Seafood, HB  129 would support  ailing Alaska  seafood processors                                                               
and incentive them  to continue adding value  to Alaskan Seafood.                                                               
By doing  so it  would provide  a better  bottom line  for Alaska                                                               
fishermen.   He noted that  letters of support were  available in                                                               
members' packets  [available in  committee file].   These include                                                               
the Pacific Seafood Processors  Association, Bristol Bay Regional                                                               
Seafood  Development   Association,  Canfisco  Group   USA,  E.C.                                                               
Phillips & Son, and the fishing vessel (F/V) Savage.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:06:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES announced  that the  committee  would hear  invited                                                               
testimony on HB 129.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:07:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
STEPHANIE MORELAND,  Executive Vice President,  Trident Seafoods,                                                               
gave invited  testimony in support  of HB  129.  She  stated that                                                               
Trident Seafoods  was founded  in 1973  by a  fisherman and  is a                                                               
family owned,  privately held company.   She said the  company is                                                               
anchored  in   Alaska  and  has  support   fleet  operations  and                                                               
shoreside  fish processing  that  are found  in nine  communities                                                               
across the  state.   She said  that the  company serves  over 650                                                               
independent fishermen who chose  to deliver salmon, cod, pollock,                                                               
crab, halibut, and other species  to their shoreside plants.  She                                                               
said these  fishermen rely  on Trident  to provide  a competitive                                                               
marketplace and act as a good business partner.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. MORELAND thanked the committee  for hearing HB 129, something                                                               
that would ensure investment, drive  efficiency, and capture more                                                               
value in seafood  products.  She said that  current challenges in                                                               
the  industry include  rising labor  and transportation  costs, a                                                               
strong   dollar   relative   to  other   key-market   currencies,                                                               
aggressive  harvests,  and   undercutting  from  Russian  seafood                                                               
markets.   She  opined that  in order  to survive  and support  a                                                               
healthy seafood  sector for  the long-run,  Trident needs  to cut                                                               
costs from  its business while  increasing value,  something that                                                               
would require both investment and innovation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MORELAND  said that  Trident  has  previously used  the  tax                                                               
credit  to  improve  utilization  and elevate  the  use  of  what                                                               
historically  has been  turned into  waste into  promising health                                                               
and pet products.  She said  that the current version of the bill                                                               
would  make  some important  changes  to  tax credit,  especially                                                               
Section 2, which  would improve the process and  timeline to work                                                               
with  the  Department of  Revenue.    She said  that  significant                                                               
capital  investment is  needed in  the harvesting  and processing                                                               
sectors.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:09:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP  commented that  he  thought  that the  more                                                               
options  a  processing industry  has  to  apply tax  credits  the                                                               
better.   He said  that nationally  there is  a 5-  or 6-billion-                                                               
dollar  pet food  industry.   He  said that  some processors  are                                                               
beginning to look  at using more of the fish  which would involve                                                               
buying new equipment.   He asked whether there  was anything from                                                               
the  bill that  would prevent  Trident from  being able  to fully                                                               
utilize the tax credits.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MORELAND  responded to Representative  Kopp that this  was an                                                               
excellent question,  and the  pet food industry  has grown.   She                                                               
said that Trident  has an excellent range of  products that would                                                               
be appropriate to target and modify  for later market sales.  She                                                               
said  it's  a  matter  of  developing  relationships  and  market                                                               
strategy  to  get these  value-added  products  to market  at  an                                                               
appropriate cost.   She said that  she believes the bill  is well                                                               
aligned with  helping to facilitate and  promote this investment.                                                               
She  said  that  Trident  has used  things  like  vertical  plate                                                               
freezers to capture former waste  and create new products for the                                                               
market.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:12:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JULIE DECKER, President,  Pacific Seafood Processors Association,                                                               
gave  invited testimony  in support  of HB  129.   She said  that                                                               
Pacific  Seafood   Processors  Association  (PSPA)  is   a  trade                                                               
association, which represents  major seafood processing companies                                                               
who  purchase fish  from thousands  of  commercial fisherman  and                                                               
process seafood  products in over twenty-one  coastal communities                                                               
in Alaska.  She said  the group also supports floating processors                                                               
which  often operate  in remote  locations.   She said  that PSPA                                                               
strongly supports  HB 129,  and the  changes associated  with the                                                               
pre-existing  tax  credit  programs.   She  said  that  it  would                                                               
provide  an incentive  for seafood  processors to  invest in  new                                                               
equipment that  would bring higher quality,  value-added products                                                               
to the market.   It would provide long-term  economic benefits to                                                               
the state, coastal communities, fishermen, and processors.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DECKER remarked  that  HB 129  has  some important  aspects.                                                               
First, it would  not change the current maximum value  of the tax                                                               
credit, which  is capped  at 50 percent  of a  processor's Alaska                                                               
Fisheries Business  Tax.  It  expands the types of  equipment and                                                               
the  species eligible  for the  tax credit.   HB  129 would  also                                                               
facilitate one-time  private investment  in equipment  that would                                                               
increase utilization and increase  value-added products; by doing                                                               
so it  would increase  the long-term  value of  fishery resources                                                               
for the state, communities, fishermen,  and processors.  It would                                                               
increase revenue to  the state and impact  communities since fish                                                               
taxes  are  based  on fish  value.    She  said  that HB  129  is                                                               
supported by  a previous analysis conducted  by McKinley Research                                                               
Group which suggests  a significant return on  investment for the                                                               
state following the tax deduction changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. DECKER  remarked that the  health of the seafood  industry is                                                               
critical  to Alaska  since it  generates $6  billion in  economic                                                               
activity  for  the state,  creates  48,000  direct jobs,  is  the                                                               
state's largest  manufacturing and export sector,  and lowers the                                                               
cost of  state transportation.   She said that  while inventories                                                               
stabilized in 2024 and the  ban on Russian seafood products began                                                               
in May of 2024, economic  conditions have still not significantly                                                               
improved.   She  said that  moving into  2025, the  unknown risks                                                               
facing  the seafood  industry  are  still significant,  including                                                               
those  from any  tariffs.   She  stated the  tax credit  supports                                                               
access  to additional  equipment  that would  improve the  supply                                                               
chain, improve cost and recovery,  and spur private investment in                                                               
automation  and energy  efficiency.   She said  that in  order to                                                               
"move  the needle,"  PSPA  needs two  critical  things to  occur:                                                               
lowering  costs and  increasing  the value  of seafood  products.                                                               
She  noted that  HB 129  would allow  the tax  credit program  to                                                               
function through  2030 and  would be effective  as of  January 1,                                                               
2025.   She asked  for a  single change to  the proposed  bill, a                                                               
continuation  of the  tax credit  program to  2035 as  opposed to                                                               
2030.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:16:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TOMI  MARSH,   Member,  E.C.  Phillips  and   Son,  gave  invited                                                               
testimony in support  of HB 129.  She remarked  that she has been                                                               
involved with the  commercial fishing industry for  over 40 years                                                               
and has operated the  F/V Savage for over 35.   She said that she                                                               
has  worked  with  E.C.  Phillips  and  Son  since  1994  and  is                                                               
currently authorized to speak on  the group's behalf.  She stated                                                               
that  E.C.  Phillips and  Son  is  a family-owned  business  with                                                               
nearly 100  years of  history operating  in Alaska.   It  is open                                                               
year-round  and produces  seafood products  in the  Ketchikan and                                                               
has  operating  areas in  Craig  and  Petersburg  as well.    She                                                               
remarked that  E.C. Phillips and Son  primarily processes salmon,                                                               
halibut, black cod, but participate  in smaller fisheries such as                                                               
sea cucumbers,  geoducks, and a  few others.   She said  that the                                                               
company  is also  working  on processing  new  products from  the                                                               
Mariculture  Industry  such  as   seaweed  and  shellfish.    She                                                               
remarked  that E.C.  Phillips  and Son  strives  for 100  percent                                                               
utilization,   and   this  allows   access   to   pet  food   and                                                               
nutraceutical markets.   The company has been working  on ways to                                                               
strive for full utilization of the products.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARSH  remarked that quality  and innovation have  helped the                                                               
industry  persevere  and  counter  adverse  economic  and  market                                                               
conditions.    She  said that  equipment  that  elevates  quality                                                               
provides  an   opportunity  for  full  product   utilization  and                                                               
equipment that encourages  new product forms would  add value and                                                               
bolster  markets.   She  opined  that  these upgrades  allow  the                                                               
company  to  maintain  relevancy  in  both  global  and  domestic                                                               
markets.   She said that  E.C. Phillips and Son  strongly support                                                               
HB 129 and as a smaller  company, it relies on quality and value-                                                               
added  products  to  diversify  market  access  domestically  and                                                               
internationally.   She said that  the proposed bill is  a crucial                                                               
step towards  fostering innovation, sustainability,  and economic                                                               
growth in  Alaska's seafood  sector.   By extending  the timeline                                                               
for the tax credit and  expanding eligibility to all commercially                                                               
harvested  fish  and  shellfish,  this  bill  would  ensure  that                                                               
processors  can continue  investment in  value added  production,                                                               
new technologies,  and product diversification.   She stated that                                                               
these  investments would  enhance the  competitiveness of  Alaska                                                               
Seafood  and help  create jobs  while  maximizing utilization  of                                                               
Alaska's  marine  resources.    She remarked  that  the  proposed                                                               
bill's  provision  to  streamline  the  application  process  and                                                               
ensure   timely   preliminary    determinations   for   qualified                                                               
investments  would encourage  more businesses  to participate  in                                                               
the  tax  credit  program.     The  inclusion  of  quality  added                                                               
machinery such  as ice  making machines  and freezers,  and other                                                               
technologies   to  improve   product   quality,  demonstrates   a                                                               
commitment to  building and modernizing  the industry.   She said                                                               
that as  the global and  domestic seafood markets  evolve, Alaska                                                               
must  remain at  the  forefront of  sustainable and  high-quality                                                               
seafood  production.    She  added  that  HB  129  would  provide                                                               
necessary  incentives   to  drive  progress  and   keep  Alaska's                                                               
fisheries industry thriving for years to come.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:20:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.   GRUENING   responded   to    a   previous   question   from                                                               
Representative Kopp.  He said that  looking at page 2, line 23 of                                                               
the bill, it includes equipment that  can be used to preserve and                                                               
dry  seafood products,  if the  equipment is  primarily used  for                                                               
value added processes.  He said  as long as the equipment is used                                                               
predominantly in  the value-added process  51 or more  percent of                                                               
the time, the equipment would qualify for the tax credit.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:21:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ELAM  asked   how  many   people  or   companies                                                               
participate in the current tax credit program.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  said this may be  a question for the  Department of                                                               
Revenue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:22:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAN STICKEL,  Chief Economist,  Department of  Revenue, responded                                                               
that for  the current Fisheries  Product Development  Tax Credit,                                                               
there were five  beneficiaries of the credit for  the fiscal year                                                               
2013.  He  noted that this information comes  from the Department                                                               
of Revenue's direct expenditure report.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:22:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked Mr. Gruening  about the proposed bill.                                                               
On  page 2,  when talking  about  eligible fish  included on  the                                                               
bill, she  asked whether any  discussions took place to  add kelp                                                               
and mariculture to the program.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING said  that the Mariculture Industry does  not have a                                                               
Fisheries  Business  Tax  Liability, as  its  processing  methods                                                               
follow a different manner.  He  said the point is well considered                                                               
and whether it would be something to  be added would be up to the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  asked about equipment used  for drying, and                                                               
what type of other equipment would qualify.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES said  that she  appreciated  this and  said that  a                                                               
mariculture-affiliated  staffer  working   in  her  office  could                                                               
address this question.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING added  that the  language about  the drying  may be                                                               
correct.  He  said that drying and making a  shelf stable product                                                               
was needed  in the Kelp  Industry.  He  said that the  bill would                                                               
need a modifier to allow for tax credit eligibility.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:25:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE  asked whether  the  bill  would apply  to                                                               
aquaponics and fish  farming; he asked whether  these tax credits                                                               
would ever fit for this type of business and equipment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  responded that  he did not  think it  would qualify                                                               
and would follow up with an answer later.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE explained  that eventually  this could  be                                                               
landed  in  Alaska.    He   discussed  the  relationship  between                                                               
aquaponics and fish  farming.  He said that  eventually if anyone                                                               
decided to  go in this direction  then there would be  fish grown                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:27:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  said that Alaska is  in a position now  that forces                                                               
forward thinking in order to help the industry.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:28:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP  added that  global  uncertainty  now is  so                                                               
great and anything the state can  do to support efforts is better                                                               
for the seafood industry.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said that he  has friends in South Carolina                                                               
that have an  aquaponics business as a sort of  "hobby farm."  He                                                               
said that the  business generates $3,000 every  two weeks selling                                                               
micro greens and has fish for  their table anytime they want.  He                                                               
said when the  fish get too big, they are  then sold and overall,                                                               
it is a sustainable model.   He said this type is business cannot                                                               
be done in Alaska currently.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:29:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced that HB 129 was held over.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:29:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Fisheries meeting  was adjourned  at 10.29                                                               
a.m.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 129 Sponsor Statement v. N 3.16.25.pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129
HB 129 v. N.pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129
HB 129 v. N Sectional Analysis 3.14.25.pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129
HB 129 Letter of Support Canfisco Group 3.20.25.pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129
HB 129 Letter of Support PSPA.pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129
HB 129 Letter of Support BBRSDA.pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129
HB 129 DOR Fical Note.pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129
HB 129 Letter in support ECP.pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129
HB 129 Letter of Support Savage, Inc..pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129
HB 129 Letter of Support Alaska Glacier Seafoods.pdf HFSH 3/20/2025 10:00:00 AM
HB 129