Legislature(2017 - 2018)GRUENBERG 120

03/08/2018 10:00 AM FISHERIES

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10:04:52 AM Start
10:05:52 AM Confirmation Hearing(s):|| Fishermen's Fund Advisory and Appeals Council (ffaac)|| Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (cfec)
10:30:00 AM HB354
11:09:24 AM HB379
11:31:14 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearings: TELECONFERENCED
- Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission
- Fishermen's Fund Advisory and Appeals Council
*+ HB 354 DIVE FISHERY ASSESSMENTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 354 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HB 379 COMM FISHERMEN'S FUND:VESSEL OWNER CLAIMS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 379 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                            
                         March 8, 2018                                                                                          
                           10:04 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Louise Stutes, Chair                                                                                            
 Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                         
 Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                      
 Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                     
 Representative David Eastman                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Zach Fansler                                                                                                    
 Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                    
 Representative Mike Chenault                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      Vance "Fate" Putman - Juneau                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      Dale Kelley - Juneau                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Fishermen's Fund Advisory and Appeals Council (FFAAC)                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      Mark Saldi - Skagway                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 HOUSE BILL NO. 354                                                                                                             
 "An Act relating to dive fishery management assessment                                                                         
 procedures."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
      - MOVED HB 354 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 HOUSE BILL NO. 379                                                                                                             
 "An Act relating to claims against protection and indemnity                                                                    
 insurance policies of vessel owners."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 379 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 354                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: DIVE FISHERY ASSESSMENTS                                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) ORTIZ                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/16/18       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/16/18       (H)       FSH, RES                                                                                               
03/08/18       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 379                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: COMM FISHERMEN'S FUND:VESSEL OWNER CLAIMS                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) ORTIZ                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/21/18       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/21/18       (H)       FSH, L&C                                                                                               
03/08/18       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
VANCE "FATE" PUTMAN, Appointee                                                                                                  
Commissioner; Chairman                                                                                                          
Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC)                                                                                    
Alaska Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G)                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Commercial                                                                 
Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DALE KELLEY, Appointee                                                                                                          
Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC)                                                                                    
Alaska Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G)                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Commercial                                                                 
Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MARK SALDI, Appointee                                                                                                           
Fishermen's Fund Advisory and Appeals Council (FFAAC)                                                                           
Department of Labor & Workforce Development (DLWD)                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Fishermen's                                                                
Fund Advisory and Appeals Council (FFAAC).                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAN ORTIZ                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Introduced HB 354 as prime sponsor of the                                                               
 bill.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 LIZ HARPOLD, Staff                                                                                                             
 Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                       
 Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                       
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on behalf of the prime sponsor of                                                             
 HB 354, Representative Dan Ortiz.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 VANCE FATE PUTMAN, Chairman; Commissioner designee                                                                             
 Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC)                                                                                   
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the discussion of                                                             
 HB 354.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 PHIL DOHERTY, Executive Director                                                                                               
 Southeast Alaska Regional Dive Fisheries Association (SARDFA)                                                                  
 Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 354.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 SCOTT KELLEY, Director                                                                                                         
 Division of Commercial Fisheries                                                                                               
 Alaska Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G)                                                                                       
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the discussion of                                                             
 HB 354.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE DAN ORTIZ                                                                                                       
 Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                       
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, introduced HB 379.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 LIZ HARPOLD, Staff                                                                                                             
 Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                       
 Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                       
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on behalf of the sponsor of HB                                                                
 379, Representative Dan Ortiz.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 MARIE MARX, Director                                                                                                           
 Division of Workers' Compensation (DWC)                                                                                        
 Department of Labor & Workforce Development (DLWD)                                                                             
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the discussion of                                                             
 HB 379.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT KEHOE, Executive Director                                                                                                
Purse Seine Vessel Owners Association (PSVOA)                                                                                   
Seattle, Washington                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 379.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MARK VINSEL, Executive Administrator                                                                                            
United Fishermen of Alaska (UFA)                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 379.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CLAY BESENEK                                                                                                                    
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 379.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:04:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LOUISE  STUTES  called  the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                             
Fisheries  meeting  to  order  at  10:04  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
Stutes,  Kreiss-Tomkins,  Neuman,  and  Eastman  (telephonically)                                                               
were present at  the call to order.   Representative Tarr arrived                                                               
as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                   ^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                
^Fishermen's Fund Advisory and Appeals Council (FFAAC)                                                                          
^Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC)                                                                                 
          Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC)                                                                      
     Fishermen's Fund Advisory and Appeals Council (FFAAC)                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
10:05:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced that the first order of business would be                                                                
confirmation hearings for appointees  to the Commercial Fisheries                                                               
Entry Commission,  and the Fishermen's Fund  Advisory and Appeals                                                               
Council.   She identified  the appointees as  V. Fate  Putman and                                                               
Dale Kelley to the Commercial  Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC);                                                               
and Mark  A. Saldi to  the Fishermen's Fund Advisory  and Appeals                                                               
Council.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  advised the committee  that both appointees  to the                                                               
CFEC attended last week's committee  hearing on February 27, 2018                                                               
and  answered questions.    The  public may  wish  to review  the                                                               
 hearing, she said.   She explained that  Vance "Fate" Putman  was                                                              
 appointed  by  the   Governor  on  December   1,  2017  and   was                                                              
 reappointed  to a  different  seat  on  January  29,  2018.    If                                                              
 confirmed his term would expire on March 1, 2021.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 10:07:31 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 VANCE  "FATE"  PUTMAN,  Appointee,  Commercial  Fisheries   Entry                                                              
 Commission (CFEC),  Alaska  Department of  Fish &  Game  (ADF&G),                                                              
 stated he was  the commissioner  designee for the  CFEC, and  was                                                              
 appointed as chairman of the CFEC by the governor last month.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MR. PUTMAN  provided  a brief  history,  noting  he was  born  in                                                              
 Fairbanks, where his  mom was a  city planner and  his dad was  a                                                              
 plumber and pipefitter.  His family moved to Anchorage  after the                                                              
 1964  earthquake  and  his  mom  did  substantial   planning  for                                                              
 villages and  towns  that  were damaged  during  the  earthquake,                                                              
 including Valdez.  He attended Stellar Secondary School  and West                                                              
 High School  in  Anchorage,  graduating  in 1976.    He  attended                                                              
 Linfield College  in McMinnville, Oregon  and Western  Washington                                                              
 University [Bellingham, Washington] and  graduated with a  degree                                                              
 in Environmental Science.  His first legislative job was  in 1979                                                              
 as a student intern, working for Senator Pat Rodey.   He returned                                                              
 to Juneau in law school,  as an intern in the attorney  general's                                                              
 office.  He worked for Tom Koester, Natural Resources  Section of                                                              
 the  Department of  Law,  in  1983  where  he  worked  on  issues                                                              
 including  the  CFEC,  Dinkum  Sands,  Navigable  Waterways,  and                                                              
 Mental Health Trust Land.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 10:08:53 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MR. PUTMAN  stated  that  he then  worked  as a  manager  of  the                                                              
 Commission on  the  Future of  the  Permanent Fund,  working  for                                                              
 "Red" Boucher,  who  was  chair  of the  State  Affairs  Standing                                                              
 Committee.   Also  serving on  that  commission were  Jan  Faiks,                                                              
 Terry Martin,  Denny  Kelso, Mark  Langland, Hugh  Malone,  Steve                                                              
 Frank, and others,  he said.  As  commissioners, their jobs  were                                                              
 to  travel  throughout  the  state  and  collect  testimony  from                                                              
 Alaskans on  the future of  the Alaska  Permanent Fund.   He  was                                                              
 appointed to  the  Anchorage Planning  and Zoning  Commission  by                                                              
 Mayor Tom  Fink, serving on  that commission  for several  years.                                                              
 He then became  the in-house legal  counsel, political  director,                                                              
 lobbyist, and assistant executive  director of a public  employee                                                              
 union from 1995 - 2015.   He retired from that job and has  since                                                              
 served as  a contract  lobbyist.   Since his  appointment he  has                                                              
 focused entirely on CFEC, which is  a fulltime job, he said.   He                                                              
 looked forward to serving on the commission [if confirmed].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:10:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PUTMAN  explained  his history  in  the  commercial  fishing                                                               
industry, such  that he worked as  a salmon hand troller  in 1979                                                               
and as a  halibut longline fisherman with his  father through the                                                               
1970s and  1980s in Homer.   He worked as  a deck hand  in winter                                                               
fisheries in Homer in  1984 and 1985.  He served  as a cash buyer                                                               
in King  Salmon for the  Putman Fish Company, his  brother's fish                                                               
buying business, until  his brother's death.  He has  worked as a                                                               
setnet  fisherman on  the  Kenai Peninsula  for  the past  twenty                                                               
years,  noting that  many people  go through  his fish  camp from                                                               
June  15 -  25 of  each  year.   He  has never  held a  captain's                                                               
license or  a limited entry  permit, but  since he has  worked in                                                               
the  attorney general's  office, he  has been  interested in  the                                                               
CFEC.   He said  he now  can view  the CFEC  from the  inside [if                                                               
confirmed].                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:11:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES asked for information  on his work since appointment                                                               
by the governor in December.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PUTMAN  described  the  work  he  has  performed  since  his                                                               
appointment  in December  when  Commissioner  Ben Brown  resigned                                                               
from his  seat, noting he  initially had a  one-year appointment.                                                               
Although  he  is an  attorney,  it  is  not  necessary to  be  an                                                               
attorney to  serve as a commissioner  at CFEC, he said.   He said                                                               
he read the Lawson Report and  two legislative audits on the CFEC                                                               
to  determine what  other  people thought  was  happening in  the                                                               
agency.    He  also  reviewed  the structure  of  the  agency  to                                                               
determine the  outstanding remaining  cases, with  the assistance                                                               
of the Department  of Law.  He has identified  20 things the CFEC                                                               
can do  internally to make  the commission more  efficient, which                                                               
he offered to review now or to discuss them at a future hearing.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  suggested that  he may  have to  return at  a later                                                               
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:12:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES asked  whether the  13 pending  cases were  pending                                                               
when he started.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PUTMAN  answered  that  he  would put  the  cases  into  two                                                               
different categories.   At  the time  he arrived  18 or  19 cases                                                               
were  pending from  the prior  year pertaining  to emergency  and                                                               
 permanent  transfers,   which  were  initially   denied  by   the                                                              
 licensing staff, appealed to the hearing officer,  and eventually                                                              
 to the commission.  He has  handled those cases.  Two cases  were                                                              
 remanded back from  the Superior  Court to the  CFEC, which  were                                                              
 dealt with.   The  second group  of cases  were the  13 cases  he                                                              
 previously referred  to, which  are cases  pending from  35 -  45                                                              
 years ago on different fisheries.   The CFEC would like to  close                                                              
 out those cases  to eliminate the  interim-use permits, he  said.                                                              
 Those cases will take more  time since they are more  complicated                                                              
 cases; however, these cases  have been adjudicated by the  CFEC's                                                              
 adjudication  staff   and  are  currently   pending  before   the                                                              
 commission for consideration and  have been for quite some  time,                                                              
 he said.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 10:13:54 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS said  he appreciated the  testimony                                                              
 by the CFEC commissioner designee on February 27.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 10:14:11 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR  STUTES   stated  that  she   was  excited   to  have   new                                                              
 commissioners to serve.  She expressed an interest in  having the                                                              
 commissioners  come  before  the  committee  to  present  a  more                                                              
 in-depth review of the CFEC.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 10:14:40 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MR. PUTMAN  pointed out  the CFEC  would be  preparing an  annual                                                              
 report that  should be distributed  to the  committee within  the                                                              
 next few weeks.  He  described the upcoming report as being  like                                                              
 an  executive  summary,  approximately  four  pages  long,   with                                                              
 attached appendixes.  He offered  to present a PowerPoint of  the                                                              
 annual report to the committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES concurred that the committee would be interested.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 10:15:25 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 10:15:40 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES introduced Dale  Kelley, who was appointed to  serve                                                              
 as commissioner  of  the  Commercial Fisheries  Entry  Commission                                                              
 (CFEC) on March 1, 2018,  and if confirmed her term would  expire                                                              
 on March 1, 2022.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:16:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DALE  KELLEY, Appointee,  Commercial  Fisheries Entry  Commission                                                               
(CFEC), Alaska  Department of  Fish &  Game (ADF&G),  stated that                                                               
she was recently appointed to  the commission, in fact, today was                                                               
her  one-week anniversary  with CFEC.   She  stated that  she has                                                               
lived  in  Alaska more  than  half  of her  life.    She grew  up                                                               
surfing,  riding rodeo,  and rock  climbing in  California.   Her                                                               
academic   training   spanned    from   fisheries   science   and                                                               
aquaculture, to pharmacy and paramedicine.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. KELLEY  stated that  she worked as  a pharmacy  technician in                                                               
three  states and  one of  her most  unique responsibilities  was                                                               
preparing drug  packs for the space  shuttle.  She has  worked in                                                               
surgery  and  in ambulances  in  Houston,  Texas, which  probably                                                               
helped toughen her  up to be a commercial fishing  deckhand.  She                                                               
has lived in  the bush and as a fish  culturist in Prince William                                                               
Sound, and Southeast  Alaska.  She helped  rebuild steam turbines                                                               
in  Haines and  Fairbanks and  she  enjoys fishing  on a  troller                                                               
based out of Craig.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:17:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KELLEY  advised that she  has no  financial tie to  a fishing                                                               
business  nor is  she  a permit  holder.   She  has  worked as  a                                                               
commercial fishing deckhand  and said if she was  fortunate to be                                                               
able to continue  in that area that she would  do so without pay.                                                               
For  the past  three  decades  she has  worked  as the  executive                                                               
director  of  a   commercial  fishing  organization  representing                                                               
fishermen who fish in federal  and state waters.  These fishermen                                                               
are touched  by state, federal  and international  regulatory and                                                               
statutory  processes so  she has  become familiar  with the  many                                                               
policies,  rules,   regulations,  and  laws  that   underpin  all                                                               
fisheries  across  Alaska.    It  has  been  an  interesting  and                                                               
informative career, she said.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:18:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KELLEY stated that she supports  all types of fishing and has                                                               
worked  on  behalf of  all  fishermen  during  her career.    She                                                               
detailed her  fishing industry positions, noting  that she served                                                               
for 12  years as  a commissioner with  the Pacific  States Marine                                                               
Fisheries  Commission  (PSMFC).    She said  she  serves  on  the                                                               
Pacific  Salmon   Commission,  which   is  the   commission  that                                                               
implements the  United States  - Canada treaty.   She  chairs the                                                               
U.S. Advisors  for a five country,  international commission that                                                               
 works on research  and enforcement  of high-seas interception  of                                                              
 anadromous fish stocks.  Over the years she has helped  start and                                                              
 manage many  blended state  and  national fishing  organizations,                                                              
 including  working on  fish  habitat  or  anything  that  affects                                                              
 conservation and management of fish.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 10:19:03 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MS. KELLEY  explained her  experience with  respect  to CFEC,  in                                                              
 that she  has  spent various  times  and  stages of  her  fishing                                                              
 industry career working with  commission staff on projects.   She                                                              
 acknowledged that she has  a lot to learn at  the CFEC.  She  has                                                              
 been assessing the direction of  the CFEC during her first  week,                                                              
 noting that  she has reviewed  both audits  on the  CFEC and  has                                                              
 asked many questions during  the audit timeframe.  She  applauded                                                              
 Commissioner Putman and his  staff for changes that were  already                                                              
 being put into  place.   She noted that  some efficiency  changes                                                              
 were in process,  so she felt it  was a good  time to be  joining                                                              
 the commission and to be part of the team addressing some  of the                                                              
 concerns outlined  in  the  Lawson Report  [Commercial  Fisheries                                                              
 Entry Commission Review,  prepared for the  ADF&G by Tom  Lawson,                                                              
 Special Projects Coordinator, ADF&G, January 2015].   She offered                                                              
 her support for the Lawson  Report and anticipated there will  be                                                              
 good changes  ahead.  She  found the  staff to  be welcoming  and                                                              
 productive.   She  characterized the  staff  as being  "a  pretty                                                              
 happy crew," which she was  glad to report because she had  heard                                                              
 comments to the contrary.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES said she  was happy to  hear about the CFEC  staff's                                                              
 morale.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 10:20:30 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MS. KELLEY stated that her  goals coming in are simple since  she                                                              
 knows she has a lot to  learn.  She said she would like  to boost                                                              
 staff morale and  re-polish the CFEC's  public image, because  it                                                              
 has been a  tremendous organization over the  years, and to  find                                                              
 ways in  which  the  CFEC could  be  of service  to  the  fishing                                                              
 public, communities, and state agencies.   She said she has  some                                                              
 ideas to work  with the  other commissioner on,  noting that  she                                                              
 thinks  she and  Mr.  Putman  have  complementary  skills.    She                                                              
 concluded by stating she was  excited to be working with him  and                                                              
 she thinks they will make a great team, if [confirmed].                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 10:21:12 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  reiterated her excitement at  the new appointments.                                                               
She offered  her belief  that having  new commissioners  would be                                                               
good for  everyone.  She  commented that when people  perform the                                                               
same  job repetitively  over time,  it sometimes  means that  the                                                               
person can look past something right  at one's feet.  She offered                                                               
her  belief that  CFEC would  be experiencing  a new  horizon and                                                               
that   there  has   been  great   groundwork  laid   by  previous                                                               
commissioners.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:21:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  appreciated  the  opportunity  to                                                               
speak at the  previous committee meeting [on  February 27, 2018].                                                               
He commended Ms. Kelley's long  history and service to commercial                                                               
fishing, particularly in Southeast  Alaska, and deep knowledge of                                                               
fishing industry  issues.  He  said he  was pleased to  have this                                                               
leadership  going forward  and was  glad she  wanted to  serve as                                                               
commissioner.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:22:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN,  in response  to Chair  Stutes, responded                                                               
that he did not have any questions at this time.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:23:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  thanked Ms. Kelley for  her willingness to                                                               
serve.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:23:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES introduced Mark Saldi,  appointee to the Fishermen's                                                               
Fund Advisory  and Appeals  Council (FFAAC).   She said  that Mr.                                                               
Saldi was testifying telephonically from  Skagway.  Mr. Saldi has                                                               
been a  long-standing member  of the  FFAAC, having  served since                                                               
2008 for  two five-year terms.   He  was reappointed on  March 1,                                                               
2018, and  if confirmed his third  term would expire on  March 1,                                                               
2023.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:23:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARK  SALDI, Appointee,  Fishermen's  Fund  Advisory and  Appeals                                                               
Council  (FFAAC), Department  of  Labor  & Workforce  Development                                                               
(DLWD), explained  his work  history.  He  stated that  this year                                                               
would  be his  40th year  of fishing  in Alaska  and that  he has                                                               
participated in  numerous fisheries  ranging from  Prince William                                                               
 Sound  (PWS) to  Southeast  Alaska  and  Chignik  on  the  Alaska                                                              
 Peninsula.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 10:24:07 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MR. SALDI said that he  moved to Alaska in 1979 after  graduating                                                              
 from Colorado  State with  a degree  in business  administration.                                                              
 In his ten  years of  service on the  [Fisherman's Fund  Advisory                                                              
 and Appeals Council] he said he  has never missed a meeting.   He                                                              
 indicated  that  he  has  previously  held  permits  and  an  IFQ                                                              
 [Individual Fishing Quota]; however,  he lives in Skagway and  no                                                              
 longer  travels  to  Western  Alaska.    He  asked   whether  the                                                              
 committee would like him to discuss the fund.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 10:24:50 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES responded that  he could discuss  the fund if he  so                                                              
 desired but cautioned that the committee had time constraints.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 10:25:00 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MR.  SALDI  briefly  reviewed  that  the  Fishermen's   Fund  was                                                              
 established in  1951,  prior to  statehood,  as  one of  the  few                                                              
 dedicated funds in  Alaska.   The state does  not contribute  any                                                              
 funding and the  fund receives its funding  from a percentage  of                                                              
 deckhand  licenses   or  limited-entry   permits.     Thus,   the                                                              
 Fisherman's Fund receives checks periodically from ADF&G  and the                                                              
 CFEC, he said.   The state received  some benefit from the  fund,                                                              
 since  the Fishermen's  Fund  currently  has  a  surplus  of  $11                                                              
 million.  He was unsure of  the exact mechanics of the fund.   He                                                              
 stated his  ongoing goal  has been  to  preserve the  Fishermen's                                                              
 Fund,  so that  it  remains  solvent.    He  explained  that  the                                                              
 Fishermen's  Fund  is  a  payer  of  last  resort,   which  means                                                              
 fishermen must exhaust other means such as private  insurance, or                                                              
 workers'  compensation,  or  the   boat's  PNI  [Protection   and                                                              
 indemnity insurance],  and once that's  refused, the  Fishermen's                                                              
 Fund can assist the fishermen.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 10:26:15 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES asked how many members serve on the [council].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 MR. SALDI responded that the FFAAC consists of five  members, who                                                              
 are selected from different  parts of the state, including  Nome,                                                              
 [Manokotak, District 4,  Areas west of  Alaska Peninsula to  Cape                                                              
 Newenham, including Bristol Bay], Homer, Skagway, and  Ketchikan.                                                              
 Since  board  members  -  all  fishermen  -  serve   in  regional                                                              
districts it was likely one  board member will know the claimant,                                                               
he  said.   Further, board  members  serve for  five years,  with                                                               
staggered terms,  so each year  a new member would  be appointed,                                                               
or an existing member would be reappointed, he stated.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:27:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN,  in response  to Chair  Stutes, indicated                                                               
he did not have any questions for Mr. Saldi.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES thanked  Mr.  Saldi for  his  willingness to  serve                                                               
another  term  on  the  Fishermen's  Fund  Advisory  and  Appeals                                                               
Council.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:27:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:27:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  said the House  Special Committee on  Fisheries has                                                               
reviewed the  qualifications of the governor's  appointees, Vance                                                               
"Fate" Putman and  Dale Kelley to the  Commercial Fisheries Entry                                                               
Commission and  Mark Saldi to  the Fishermen's Fund  Advisory and                                                               
Appeals Council  and recommends  that the  names be  forwarded to                                                               
the  joint session  of the  House and  Senate for  consideration.                                                               
There  being  no objection,  the  confirmations  of Vance  "Fate"                                                               
Putman, Dale Kelley, and Mark  Saldi were advanced from the House                                                               
Special Committee on Fisheries.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  reminded the committee that  member's signatures do                                                               
not reflect intent  by any of the members to  vote for or against                                                               
these individuals  during any further  sessions for  the purposes                                                               
of confirmation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:28:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:28 a.m. to 10:30 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                HB 354-DIVE FISHERY ASSESSMENTS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:30:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES announced that the  next order of business would  be                                                              
 HOUSE BILL NO. 354, "An  Act relating to dive fishery  management                                                              
 assessment procedures."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 10:30:42 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE DAN ORTIZ, Alaska  State Legislature, read from  a                                                              
 prepared sponsor  statement,  which  read  as  follows  [original                                                              
 punctuation provided]:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      This  bill  is  necessary  for  the   Southeast  Alaska                                                                   
      Regional Dive  Fisheries  Association,  the  only  dive                                                                   
      fishery  association  in  the  state  regulated  by  AS                                                                   
      43.76.150-210,  to  amend  the  process  undertaken  to                                                                   
      modify the  tax on the  geoduck, sea  cucumber and  sea                                                                   
      urchin fisheries  it represents. Each  fishery can  tax                                                                   
      itself at a different  rate. At present, a majority  of                                                                   
      permit holders  are required to  initiate the  petition                                                                   
      to change  an  assessment  tax  and then  vote  on  the                                                                   
      change. Many  of the  permits are  nontransferable  and                                                                   
      less than  half of  the CFEC  permit  holders in  these                                                                   
      fisheries   are   actively   participating   in    said                                                                   
      fisheries.  Due  to  the  low  involvement   of  permit                                                                   
      holders, a majority participation of permit holders  is                                                                   
      unrealistic. The  proposed  legislation  allows  for  a                                                                   
      change in assessment tax to be initiated by a  3/4 vote                                                                   
      from the Board of Directors and the vote to  accept the                                                                   
      change pass  with  a majority  vote of  permit  holders                                                                   
      participating in the vote.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ  said  the bill  would allow  the  Southeast                                                              
 Alaska Regional Dive  Fisheries Association  to take their  votes                                                              
 in a more workable  manner.  He asked  his staff to elaborate  on                                                              
 the bill.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 10:33:07 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 LIZ  HARPOLD,  Staff,  Representative  Dan  Ortiz,  Alaska  State                                                              
 Legislature, stated the Southeast Alaska Regional Dive  Fisheries                                                              
 Association  (SARDFA)   was  the  only   regional  dive   fishery                                                              
 association affected by  the bill.   She said  that SARDFA was  a                                                              
 private non-profit economic development organization  established                                                              
 in the late 1990s,  representing the harvest divers,  processors,                                                              
 and communities  of Southeast Alaska,  south of  Yakutat.   There                                                              
 were approximately 380 permit  holders participating in the  dive                                                              
 fisheries,  she said.    The  SARDFA  organization  oversees  the                                                              
 geoduck, sea cucumber  and sea urchin fisheries  and has a  self-                                                              
assessed tax.   She related  that the association works  with the                                                               
Alaska Department  of Fish &  Game (ADF&G) to develop  its annual                                                               
operating  plan,   which  determines  how  the   dive  assessment                                                               
collected  by the  Department  of  Revenue would  be  spent.   An                                                               
assessment  also goes  to the  ADF&G to  manage the  fishery, she                                                               
noted.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:34:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARPOLD   reviewed  the  voting   process,  such   that  the                                                               
assessment  would  be  initiated  by 25  percent  of  the  permit                                                               
holders who voted in the  previous election.  This process worked                                                               
well in the  1990s, because the dive fisheries had  switched to a                                                               
limited-entry  fishery  and  most  of  the  permit  holders  were                                                               
actively fishing.  Since permit  holders must actively be engaged                                                               
in the  fishery to  vote, many  of the  permit holders  with non-                                                               
transferable  permits  cannot  vote,  since  the  individuals  no                                                               
longer dive in the fisheries.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARPOLD  said that  the  dive  permit holders  in  Southeast                                                               
Alaska belong  to SARDFA.   The bill would change  the initiation                                                               
process for  the assessment tax  by allowing the SARDFA  Board of                                                               
Directors to  initiate a  change with 75  percent support  of the                                                               
board.   The  assessment change  would  need a  majority vote  by                                                               
permit holders,  as outlined in  the bill.  The  election process                                                               
would not change, she said.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:36:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES asked  whether the vote is determined  by 75 percent                                                               
of the received ballots.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARPOLD responded  that at  least 25  percent of  the permit                                                               
holders who  participated in the previous  election must initiate                                                               
the change.   It would require a majority vote  of permit holders                                                               
to pass  an assessment change.   She explained the  response rate                                                               
has  declined   since  many  diver   permit  holders   no  longer                                                               
participate in the  fisheries, with less than half  of the permit                                                               
holders sending in their ballots.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:37:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ  added that  in the 1990s  there was  a much                                                               
higher participation  rate in voting on  assessments.  Currently,                                                               
the overall  industry activity by  permit holders has  shown less                                                               
activity.   As these  permit holders  cease fishing,  they cannot                                                               
sell  the permits,  but choose  not to  participate in  the vote.                                                               
 Thus, it  has been  harder and  harder to  get to  that level  of                                                              
 ratio of participation in an actual vote.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 10:38:24 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN   asked  whether   there  were   any   new                                                              
 applications for  permits and to  describe the  process to  apply                                                              
 for a new permit.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ deferred to  the Commercial Fisheries  Entry                                                              
 Commission (CFEC) to respond.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 10:38:50 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 VANCE "FATE" PUTMAN, Chairman; Commissioner designee,  Commercial                                                              
 Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC),  responded that this  question                                                              
 "gets to  the  heart"  of the  reason  for so  many  legal  cases                                                              
 [pertaining to  limited-entry  fishing  permits]  in  the  Alaska                                                              
 Supreme Court.    He  explained  that when  a  fishery  initially                                                              
 becomes limited, that the CFEC issues permits to  those fishermen                                                              
 who  participate   in  the  fishery   and  have   a  history   of                                                              
 participation in the fishery.  Applicants who are  dependent upon                                                              
 that fishery strictly  for their  economic survival are  eligible                                                              
 to obtain  a transferable  permit; however,  applicants who  have                                                              
 other sources  of income or  do other  work, are  eligible for  a                                                              
 non-transferable permit.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 10:39:50 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MR. PUTMAN  acknowledged  these limited-entry  permits  represent                                                              
 very important  decisions  to the  fishermen, their  future,  and                                                              
 their families.   Non-transferable permits  are often  challenged                                                              
 in the  court  system.    He  offered his  belief  that  in  this                                                              
 fishery,  many  dive  fishermen  who  initially  applied   for  a                                                              
 limited-entry permit received  a non-transferable permit  because                                                              
 they had other sources of income.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 10:40:12 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN said he  was grappling over the reason  for                                                              
 the problem, which  seemed to be  a lack of  new applicants.   He                                                              
 calculated that about 95 of 380, or 25 percent of  permit holders                                                              
 vote in an election.   It takes about half  to pass, or about  48                                                              
 permit holders; however,  not enough  permit holders were  voting                                                              
 because they  no longer  participate  in the  dive fishery.    He                                                              
 asked again if that is the reason for the non-participation.   In                                                              
 response to Chair  Stutes, he asked why  new dive fishermen  were                                                              
not  applying  for permits  when  participants  aged out  of  the                                                               
fishery.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PUTMAN  agreed  one  of  the  issues  with  non-transferable                                                               
permits  was that  permit  holders  aged out,  so  over time  the                                                               
number  of permits  diminish in  a  fishery.   He explained  that                                                               
getting  new permit  holders  into the  system  was not  possible                                                               
because only  the permits that  are transferable can be  moved to                                                               
another fisherman.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:41:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES  related  her  understanding  that  once  the  non-                                                               
transferable permit  was no longer  being fished, "it's  a goner"                                                               
and there was no way for a new entrant to apply.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. PUTMAN agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:42:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN asked  whether applicants  could currently                                                               
apply for a transferable permit.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. PUTMAN answered that was correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:42:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN said  that  it seemed  like the  evolution                                                               
would be someone interested in the  dive fishery would try to get                                                               
a temporary  permit.   He wondered if  people were  interested in                                                               
qualifying  for temporary  permits.   He further  asked how  much                                                               
interest there was for the dive fisheries.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  responded that she  believed that was the  issue HB                                                               
354 was trying to address.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. PUTMAN  agreed.   He related  his understanding,  in speaking                                                               
with staff, was that the problem  is that many permit holders who                                                               
were  no longer  participating  in the  fishery still  maintained                                                               
their permits  each year by  paying the licensing fee  each year,                                                               
but these  permit holders may  not participate  in the vote.   He                                                               
related his understanding that with  a threshold of fifty percent                                                               
plus  one to  change  the  tax structure  becomes  a hurdle  that                                                               
cannot be overcome without the changes in the bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:43:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES opened public testimony on HB 354.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 10:43:45 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 PHIL DOHERTY, Executive Director,  stated that SARDFA  approached                                                              
 Representative Ortiz  to change an  old statute  with respect  to                                                              
 the assessment tax.  The  dive association was formed in 1997  to                                                              
 provided management funds for  the fishery because ADF&G did  not                                                              
 have adequate funds to research and manage the three  species the                                                              
 dive fisheries harvest,  which were  sea urchins, geoduck  clams,                                                              
 and sea cucumbers.  The divers in Alaska recognized the  value of                                                              
 the resources, in part,  based on fisheries in British  Columbia,                                                              
 Washington state,  and California.   These  divers asked  [former                                                              
 Representative]  Bill  Williams  to  assist  in  forming  SARDFA,                                                              
 including establishing a  mandatory assessment  tax.  The  divers                                                              
 could tax  themselves at  a one,  three, five,  or seven  percent                                                              
 assessment tax,  he said.   Currently the  sea cucumber  fishery,                                                              
 which is the focus of this  bill, has been taxing itself at  five                                                              
 percent.  The geoduck fishery taxes itself at seven  percent, and                                                              
 the urchin  fishery taxes  itself at  five  percent of  ex-vessel                                                              
 value, meaning the fisherman comes  to the dock and five  percent                                                              
 of the fish  ticket would be  removed immediately,  he said.   He                                                              
 compared  that  collection  process   like  one  for  state   tax                                                              
 collections.   In  addition, these  fishermen  also pay  a  three                                                              
 percent state fisheries tax, he stated.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 10:45:58 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MR. DOHERTY  explained that the  assessment funds  goes into  the                                                              
 association's fund  and  SARDFA, in  conjunction with  the  ADF&G                                                              
 develops the  annual  operating plan.    The ADF&G  provides  its                                                              
 plans for assessment, management,  and research needs to  SARDFA,                                                              
 which are discussed, if  necessary, and the association  provides                                                              
 the department with the funds it needs to conduct  the fisheries,                                                              
 he said.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 MR. DOHERTY further  explained the hurdle has  arisen due to  the                                                              
 number  of  non-transferable  permits   and  even  some  of   the                                                              
 transferable permits.  For example, the sea cucumber  fishery has                                                              
 156  transferable  permits   and  233  non-transferable   permits                                                              
 totaling 389  total  permits.    Two years  ago,  SARDFA  had  an                                                              
 election  to change  the  assessment  tax  in  the  sea  cucumber                                                              
 fishery from  five percent  to one  percent  but the  association                                                              
 could not obtain half  of the 389 permit  holders to vote.   Even                                                              
 though the active permit  holders and association members  wanted                                                              
 to get it changed, it could not do so, he advised.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:47:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOHERTY stated  that the association requested  HB 354, which                                                               
would change the  voting process to allow a majority  vote of the                                                               
ballots  received  to [count].    He  characterized that  as  the                                                               
thrust of this  bill and it does not affect  any other fishery or                                                               
the state.  The SARDFA has  committed to pay ADF&G the funding it                                                               
needs  to manage  and research  the fisheries.   The  association                                                               
also uses  its assessment to  fund paralytic  shellfish poisoning                                                               
(PSP)   and  water   quality  testing   via  the   Department  of                                                               
Environmental Conservation (DEC).   The permit holders understand                                                               
that ADF&G must  provide research and management  to maintain the                                                               
fisheries.    He stated  that  the  prices  in the  sea  cucumber                                                               
fishery are up  and the association does not  have large overhead                                                               
costs  for sea  cucumbers.    He briefly  described  some of  the                                                               
programs.  He  indicated that lowering the tax  from five percent                                                               
to one percent in the fishery,  a diver would result in $1,200 to                                                               
$1,500  more  for  the  ex-vessel  value  of  the  sea  cucumbers                                                               
harvested.    This  bill  would  streamline  the  process.    The                                                               
SARDFA's commitment to the state would always be there, he said.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:50:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS   thanked  Mr.  Doherty   for  his                                                               
testimony.  He commented on  the unique status the dive fisheries                                                               
have  in  Alaska.    Referring  to  AS  16.42.40,  Regional  Dive                                                               
Development  Associations lays  out  the  organization, which  is                                                               
what SARDFA would be, he said.   He referred to page 3, lines 13-                                                               
14, of  HB 354, which read,"  ... board members of  the qualified                                                               
regional dive  fishery development association  ..."  He  said he                                                               
was  curious whether  multiple  dive  fishery associations  could                                                               
form  for the  same  dive  fishery.   He  said  he asked  because                                                               
fishermen can debate among themselves  and hypothetically a rival                                                               
association could arise and submit  petitions to the commissioner                                                               
that could be different than what SARDFA might submit.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DOHERTY  responded that  he  had  not previously  considered                                                               
whether  another  dive  association  could compete  on  the  same                                                               
fishery.  He  did not think it  would be allowed to  happen.  The                                                               
only  other dive  fishery  in Alaska  could be  for  a small  sea                                                               
cucumber  fishery  in  Kodiak.    He has  spoken  to  the  Kodiak                                                               
fishermen and  they do  not see  the need  for an  association at                                                               
this  point.   In  Southeast  Alaska,  he  did not  envision  the                                                               
scenario happening.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:53:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  agreed that  there is  no  present                                                              
 debate on this  issue, but he  wanted to  know if technically  or                                                              
 legally that could  happen in the  future.  He  said that he  did                                                              
 not see  any  reason it  could  not  happen after  reviewing  the                                                              
 language in  AS  16.42.40 since  the  three criteria  in  statute                                                              
 would not be  that difficult to  meet.   He wondered if  anything                                                              
 would prevent that from happening.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 10:53:57 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES asked  for further clarification  as she was  unsure                                                              
 of the concern.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  asked whether  there was  anything                                                              
 that prevents a  group of dissatisfied  fishermen from forming  a                                                              
 non-profit corporation and submitting a petition.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 10:54:11 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES  said  she still  was unsure  why  that would  be  a                                                              
 problem.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS answered that one group  might have                                                              
 a different opinion  on the preferred  enhancement tax.   Another                                                              
 group could have a different opinion and that group  could submit                                                              
 a petition for a different tax amount.  He expressed  an interest                                                              
 in learning more about  the regional dive fisheries  associations                                                              
 and whether the statutes only allow one to exist.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 10:54:44 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES said  she was trying  to apply  it to this  specific                                                              
 bill.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS referred to page 3, lines  13-14 of                                                              
 HB 354.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES acknowledged the cite but pointed out that  the bill                                                              
 does not identify a specific dive association such as SARDFA.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 10:55:18 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  stated that  his question  related                                                              
 to HB  354.    He  specifically asked  what  is  "the"  qualified                                                              
 regional dive fisheries association  as opposed to "a"  qualified                                                              
 regional dive fisheries association.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  offered that it  might be  more direct.   She asked                                                               
whether the  sponsor or CFEC  could respond.   She did  not think                                                               
there was any issue.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARPOLD  said she could not  address the issue of  if another                                                               
regional dive  fishery could  form but the  rules would  apply to                                                               
any  regional  dive  fishery  that   formed.    She  related  her                                                               
understanding that ADF&G would determine an assessment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:57:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOHERTY said  he has not heard of anyone  in Southeast Alaska                                                               
contemplating it.  He explained  that SARDFA's Board of Directors                                                               
has nine members who represent  cities, municipalities, and areas                                                               
in Southeast  Alaska, out-of-state divers,  and a processor.   He                                                               
characterized it  as being  representative plus  the organization                                                               
has three  committees for  sea cucumbers,  geoducks, and  red sea                                                               
urchins.   He said that  about 20  divers participate in  the sea                                                               
cucumber  committee, which  he believed  was  a robust  committee                                                               
system.   He related that  the meetings are public  meetings, and                                                               
discussions  have been  robust,  but no  one  has ever  mentioned                                                               
breaking away to form a second association.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:58:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  said he  hoped it  was permissible                                                               
to  ask questions  to  explore  the overall  structure.   He  was                                                               
interested whether  anything could  prevent a  second association                                                               
from forming  regardless of  how highly unlikely  it was  that it                                                               
would  happen.    He  related his  understanding  that  it  could                                                               
happen,  that it  was highly  unlikely  to happen,  but he  still                                                               
wanted to be certain he understood the statute.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:59:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES asked  whether an  attorney from  Legislative Legal                                                               
and Research Services was online.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS said he  did not think this merited                                                               
further pursuit.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  wanted to be certain  Representative Kreiss-Tomkins                                                               
was satisfied.  She understood his intent.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS said,  "It's  a great  bill."   He                                                               
expressed  an interest  in  the language  choice  between "a"  or                                                               
 "the" but noted  in practical terms there  probably was not  much                                                              
 difference.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 11:00:16 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  understood  the  concern  expressed.    He                                                              
 highlighted his goal when reviewing  any bill was to try to  make                                                              
 it better.  He appreciated  Mr. Doherty's testimony.  He  related                                                              
 his understanding that the intent was to change  the [assessment]                                                              
 from five percent to  one percent for  sea cucumbers but not  for                                                              
 geoduck or sea urchins.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 MR. DOHERTY answered that if HB 354 passed the SARDFA  would vote                                                              
 on the  assessment for  the sea  cucumber fishery.    He did  not                                                              
 anticipate the  association would  change the  assessment tax  on                                                              
 the geoduck fishery.  He  explained that the geoduck fishery  was                                                              
 very expensive to manage.  He related that due to some  issues in                                                              
 China,  which  is  the  destination  market  for   geoducks,  the                                                              
 fisheries must  also test  for arsenic  levels in  geoducks.   He                                                              
 estimated that to pay for  the program, including the PSP,  water                                                              
 quality testing, and arsenic  level testing, that the divers  pay                                                              
 between $150,000 - $200,000 per year for the program  in addition                                                              
 to the $50,000 that the association  pays to the ADF&G.  He  said                                                              
 the geoduck fishery barely manages  to exist.  He estimated  that                                                              
 the sea cucumber fishermen  have enough surplus funds that  their                                                              
 assessment tax could  be reduced, between  one to three  percent;                                                              
 probably to one percent.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 11:02:34 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  said  that  he was  assuming  that  voting                                                              
 lines do  not cross  between species,  such  that divers  holding                                                              
 permits for sea  cucumbers do not vote  for [tax assessments  for                                                              
 those holding permits geoducks or  sea urchins].  He wondered  if                                                              
 part of  the problem  was due  to reduced  members  or if  permit                                                              
 holders who were fishing for  geoducks could vote for sea  urchin                                                              
 tax assessments.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 MR. DOHERTY responded that  if the association was considering  a                                                              
 change for  the sea cucumber  assessment tax,  that only  members                                                              
 that  could vote  are  the  sea  cucumber  permit  holders.    He                                                              
 reiterated  that  there  were  so  many  non-transferable  permit                                                              
 holders given  out  at the  initial  start  of the  sea  cucumber                                                              
 fishery, since  it was the  easiest fishery  to obtain  landings,                                                              
 that it was difficult to get  a majority vote.  He recalled  that                                                              
 two years  ago  the association  received  89 positive  votes  to                                                              
 lower the tax.   The remaining divers  renewed their permits  but                                                              
no longer  dive in the fishery.   He emphasized the  intent is to                                                               
modernize  [the statutes]  to make  it easier  for the  divers to                                                               
change their assessment.  He  pointed out that the dive fisheries                                                               
are very physically-demanding fisheries  with the diver being the                                                               
permit holder.   The permit holder  must be the person  doing the                                                               
diving, he  said.   As the  divers get older,  they tend  to stop                                                               
diving but maintain their permits for a small fee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:05:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN asked  whether it was possible  to make the                                                               
non-transferrable permits  transferrable to get them  back in the                                                               
market.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES suggested that would be a question for the CFEC.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:05:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES, after  first determining no one  wished to testify,                                                               
closed public testimony on HB 354.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:05:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS said it sounded like a great bill.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:06:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT KELLEY, Director, Division  of Commercial Fisheries, Alaska                                                               
Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G), introduced himself.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:06:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  stated that the fisheries  are statutorily                                                               
required  to cover  any costs  to administer  their program.   He                                                               
asked if the tax assessment was  reduced from five percent to one                                                               
percent whether the funds would cover the program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. KELLEY  answered yes.   He explained that the  division works                                                               
closely with the SARDFA and  the association and divers are aware                                                               
if  the  ADF&G does  not  have  funds  to  assess to  manage  the                                                               
program, the  divers cannot fish.   He said the  [association and                                                               
permit  holders] are  very  motivated to  ensure  that the  ADF&G                                                               
continues to receive its funding.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:07:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES stated that the fiscal note for HB 354 was zero.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 11:07:37 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE TARR REPRESENTATIVE moved to report HB 354  out of                                                              
 committee with  individual recommendations  and the  accompanying                                                              
 fiscal notes.   There  being no  objection, HB  354 was  reported                                                              
 from the House Special Committee on Fisheries.                                                                                 
 11:07:52 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 The committee took an at-ease from 11:07 a.m. to 11:09 a.m.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        HB 379-COMM FISHERMEN'S FUND:VESSEL OWNER CLAIMS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 11:09:24 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES announced that the final order of business  would be                                                              
 HOUSE  BILL  NO.  379,   "An  Act  relating  to  claims   against                                                              
 protection and indemnity insurance policies of vessel owners."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 11:10:49 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE DAN  ORTIZ, Alaska  State Legislature,  introduced                                                              
 HB 379,  reading  from his  sponsor's  statement, which  read  as                                                              
 follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      In 2010, the Legislature  amended the Fishermen's  Fund                                                                   
      statute to allow a vessel  owner to receive 50% of  the                                                                   
      owner's Protection  &  Indemnity  insurance  deductible                                                                   
      from the  fund  in cases  where an  injured  crewmember                                                                   
      made a  claim  against the  Fund  and against  the  P&I                                                                   
      policy. The intent of  this amendment was to  encourage                                                                   
      vessel owners to  obtain P&I  insurance to fully  cover                                                                   
      crewmember's  medical  expenses  in  the  event  of  an                                                                   
      injury, and  to  reduce  the financial  burden  on  the                                                                   
      State. HB 379 will allow an owner to fully  recover the                                                                   
      P&I  deductible from  the  Fund  up  to  an  amount  of                                                                   
      $5,000. This would provide further financial  incentive                                                                   
      for vessel  owners  to obtain  P&I insurance  to  fully                                                                   
      cover crewmembers in the event of an injury  or illness                                                                   
      at sea.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ said  this bill was  brought forward at  the                                                              
 behest  of fishermen  and  the  fishing  industry.    This  would                                                              
 provide  a means  to  pursue  insurance  and  protection  in  the                                                              
 dangerous fisheries that often exist, he said.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:12:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN asked  for  further  clarification on  the                                                               
Fishermen's  Fund.   He  expressed an  interest  in learning  how                                                               
claims  are approved,  the fund  balance,  the type  of fund  and                                                               
whether the fund earns any interest.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:13:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LIZ  HARPOLD,  Staff,  Representative  Dan  Ortiz,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, responded that the  Fishermen's Fund predates Alaska                                                               
statehood.  It  was established in 1951 to  provide the treatment                                                               
and care  of Alaska licensed  commercial fishermen who  have been                                                               
injured while  fishing onshore or  offshore in Alaska.   She said                                                               
the benefits  from the  fund are  financed from  revenue received                                                               
from  each  resident   and  non-resident  commercial  fisherman's                                                               
license and  permit fees - 39  percent but not to  exceed $50 for                                                               
each license holder per year.   The commissioner of Department of                                                               
Labor & Workforce Development  (DLWD) oversees the administration                                                               
of  the  program,  with  assistance  from  the  Fishermen's  Fund                                                               
Advisory and Appeals Council (FFAAC).   She reminded members that                                                               
Mr. Saldi,  a member of  the FFAAC, had testified  earlier during                                                               
confirmation hearings.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:14:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARPOLD  stated   that  the  FFAAC  was   comprised  of  the                                                               
commissioner,  or  designee,  who  serves as  chairman  and  five                                                               
members appointed by the governor.   She directed attention to AS                                                               
23.35, which  outlines benefits  and process  for a  fisherman to                                                               
file a claim.   She deferred to the division  to answer technical                                                               
questions about the fund.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:15:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARIE MARX,  Director, Division  of Workers'  Compensation (DWC),                                                               
Department  of Labor  &  Workforce  Development (DLWD),  recalled                                                               
that  Representative Neuman  had previously  asked what  benefits                                                               
were available to fishermen under the Fishermen's Fund.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN   clarified  he  was  interested   in  the                                                               
structure  of the  Fishermen's Fund,  for example,  if it  was an                                                               
enterprise fund.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARX responded  that the  Fishermen's Fund  is a  dedicated,                                                               
completely self-sustaining  fund.  The amount  of money collected                                                               
 provides enough  funding  to run  the  program  and pay  for  the                                                              
 benefits available through the fund.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  asked  for  further clarification  on  the                                                              
 level the  division attempts to  maintain the  fund, noting  that                                                              
 medical costs continue  to rise.   He further  asked for how  the                                                              
 division maintains the costs at 39 percent tax.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 11:16:41 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 MS. MARX said  that the amount  of increase  shown in the  fiscal                                                              
 note is $18,900.  which is not  a huge  increase compared to  the                                                              
 amount of benefits  paid since this  reimburses vessel owners  up                                                              
 to  $5,000.    She  explained  that  most  claims  are   paid  to                                                              
 fishermen, which would not  be changed by  this bill.  This  bill                                                              
 would  allow  a  vessel  owner  to  be  reimbursed  more  of  the                                                              
 deductible, but still with a limit of $5,000.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 11:17:30 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR  STUTES related  her  understanding  that  the  bill  would                                                              
 provide  the  vessel  owners  with  an  incentive  to  carry  the                                                              
 protection and indemnity (P&I) insurance since they  will receive                                                              
 the deductible back.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 MS. MARX agreed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 11:17:53 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR  STUTES,  in  response  to  a  question  by  Representative                                                              
 Neuman, clarified the goal of the bill.  She explained that  if a                                                              
 vessel owner does not  have P&I insurance, an injured  crewmember                                                              
 would submit a claim  to the Fishermen's  Fund.  This bill  would                                                              
 encourage vessel  owners to carry  P&I insurance  since it  would                                                              
 reimburse the  entire  deductible  of $5,000  when  a  crewmember                                                              
 becomes  injured.     Currently,  the   vessel  owner  would   be                                                              
 reimbursed $2,500  of the  deductible; however,  under the  bill,                                                              
 the vessel  owner  would receive  the entire  $5,000  deductible.                                                              
 This provides  an incentive  to vessel  owners to  carry the  P&I                                                              
 insurance.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 11:18:41 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  said  his  question related  to  the  fund                                                              
 balance.   He asked for  further clarification  on whether  there                                                              
 would be an increase  in tax to  offset the additional amount  of                                                              
money that  would be reimbursed  to vessel owners to  cover their                                                               
deductible.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:19:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARX  responded that  there was enough  revenue to  cover the                                                               
increased  liability.    She  explained   that  the  revenue  was                                                               
approximately $1.4 million each year                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN asked  whether the  tax should  be reduced                                                               
since the Fishermen's Fund might be collecting excess funds.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:20:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  KEHOE,  Executive  Director, Purse  Seine  Vessel  Owners                                                               
Association  (PSVOA), stated  that PSVOA  fully supports  HB 379.                                                               
He  said the  bill would  expand on  the legislature's  effort in                                                               
2010 to provide a financial  incentive to vessel owners to obtain                                                               
insurance to  fully cover  their crewmembers in  the event  of an                                                               
injury.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KEHOE stated that as  small, independent business owners, the                                                               
cost of  liability insurance is  a major  fixed cost.   This bill                                                               
would ease  the financial burden  on vessel owners in  paying for                                                               
the cost  of insurance.   It  would further  promote the  goal of                                                               
ensuring  all  the  medical  needs  of  injured  crewmembers  are                                                               
satisfied.    He  said  PSVOA   respectfully  requests  that  the                                                               
committee supports HB 379 and move it forward.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:21:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES opened public testimony on HB 379.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:22:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARK VINSEL, Executive Administrator,  United Fishermen of Alaska                                                               
(UFA), stated that  the UFA reviewed HB 379 at  its board meeting                                                               
last week and the board voted to  support passage of HB 379.  All                                                               
fishermen  are  supportive of  the  Fishermen's  Fund, which  was                                                               
essentially  the equivalent  of workers'  compensation, he  said.                                                               
He emphasized that  most important was the solvency  of the fund.                                                               
He  said in  2009  and  2010, the  UFA  supported increasing  the                                                               
maximum  claim limit  [audio skip].   Ultimately  the legislature                                                               
changed it  to $10,000  and at  the time,  this concept  had been                                                               
discussed but  it was  important to  see over  time how  the fund                                                               
would hold up and  to ensure that it was solvent.   The people in                                                               
support of  this have  been patient, and  according to  those who                                                               
 manage the fund, it is appropriate to do so now.   The UFA offers                                                              
 its support  for  HB 379.   He  urged  the committee  members  to                                                              
 support the bill.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 11:23:57 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CLAY BESENEK  stated  he was  testifying  on behalf  of  himself,                                                              
 although he  also serves  on the  Fishermen's  Fund Advisory  and                                                              
 Appeals  Council  (FFAAC),  having   been  appointed  by   former                                                              
 Governor  Sarah   Palin.     He  explained   that  managing   the                                                              
 Fishermen's Fund was  a function that  each council member  takes                                                              
 seriously.  He concurred with Mr. Vinsel's testimony.   He stated                                                              
 that  he   previously   served   on  the   [council]   when   the                                                              
 [compensation amount]  was  increased  to $10,000  since  medical                                                              
 costs have not  decreased.  He  acknowledged that some  fishermen                                                              
 have not always  used the  fund as a  means of last  resort.   He                                                              
 emphasized   that   the   [council]   has   been   striving   for                                                              
 responsibility from fishermen  since the  Fishermen's Fund was  a                                                              
 fund of last  resort.  He  offered his belief  that HB 379  would                                                              
 fix a  loophole.    He  offered  his full  support  for  HB  379;                                                              
 however, he could not speak for the [council] since the  bill had                                                              
 not yet been discussed; however, he anticipated the  full support                                                              
 of  the  council.    In   response  to  an  earlier  comment   by                                                              
 Representative Neuman,  he  said the  fund  was formed  prior  to                                                              
 statehood so  if the  FFAAC needed  something from  the state  he                                                              
 would be willing to ask for it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 11:26:32 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 CHAIR STUTES closed public testimony on HB 379.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 11:26:40 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  indicated  his  support  for   commercial                                                              
 fishermen and the  issues and dangers  they face, noting  medical                                                              
 costs were rising.   He expressed concern  that $1.4 million  was                                                              
 sitting in a fund  instead of being  in fishermen's pockets.   He                                                              
 further expressed  an  interest in  reviewing  the tax  rates  on                                                              
 commercial fishermen.  He commented that their biggest  complaint                                                              
 has been  the amount  of  government that  they must  deal  with,                                                              
 noting the cost of licenses and  permits was very high.  He  said                                                              
 the legislature could  take an opportunity  to be more  equitable                                                              
 with the fund to assist  fisherman.  He reiterated that he  would                                                              
 prefer that the  fishermen would  have the funds  rather than  to                                                              
 have the money sit in the Fishermen's Fund.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  offered her belief  that the bill would  assist the                                                               
fishermen  in reducing  their [medical]  costs  overall and  help                                                               
promote carrying  insurance on behalf  of fishermen.   She stated                                                               
her support for  HB 379.  She asked Representative  Eastman if he                                                               
had any comments but did not receive a response.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:28:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:28:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  commented that  HB 379  has a  fiscal note  with an                                                               
estimated impact of  $18,900 annually on the  fund; however, from                                                               
the testimony received, the fund  will remain solvent.  This bill                                                               
would encourage more people to  carry insurance and may represent                                                               
a  cost savings  to the  fund  in the  long term  due to  reduced                                                               
claims against the fund.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:29:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR moved to report  HB 379 out of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There  being no  objection, HB  379 was  reported from  the House                                                               
Special Committee on Fisheries.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:31:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Fisheries meeting  was adjourned  at 11:30                                                               
a.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CFEC Dale Kelley Support SEAFA 3.5.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
Fishermen's Fund Mark Saldi Support SEAFA 3.5.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
Dale Kelley 2017_Redacted.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354 Fiscal Note DOR 02.02.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354
HB 354 Sponsor Statement 02.27.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HRES 3/26/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 354
HB 354 Supporting Document - Carruth Letter 02.27.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354
HB 354 Supporting Document - Leighton Letter 02.27.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354
HB 354 Supporting Document - SARDFA Letter 02.27.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354
HB 354 Supporting Document SEAFA 3.5.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354
HB 379 Fiscal Note DLWD 03.02.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 379
HB 379 Sponsor Statement 02.28.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 379
HB 379 Supporting Document - PSVOA Letter 02.28.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 379
HB 379 Supporting Document SEAFA 03.05.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 379
HB 379 Supporting Document UFA 03.04.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 379
HB 379A.PDF HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 379
HB354D.PDF HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354
Mark Saldi 2017_Redacted.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
Vance Fate Putman_Redacted.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354 Supporting Document UFA.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354
CFEC Supporting Document Dale Kelley Reid Harris 03.07.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
CFEC Supporting Document Fate Putman UFA 03.06.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
CFEC Supporting Document Support Dale Kelley UFA 03.06.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354 Supporting Document UFA 3.6.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 354
CFEC Supporting Document Dale Kelley Brian Lynch 03.07.18.pdf HFSH 3/8/2018 10:00:00 AM