Legislature(2017 - 2018)GRUENBERG 120

02/27/2018 10:00 AM FISHERIES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 231 CFEC: BD. SALARY;STAFF CLASSIFIED SERVICE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
<Bill Hearing Rescheduled from 2/22/18>
+= HB 272 TANGLE LAKES STATE GAME REFUGE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 272 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 260 FISH & GAME LICENSES;ELECTRONIC FORM TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 260 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HB 386 VESSELS: REGISTRATION/TITLES; DERELICTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 188 COMM. FISH. ENTRY PERMITS; LOANS; TRUSTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 188(FSH) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                            
                       February 27, 2018                                                                                        
                           10:02 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Louise Stutes, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                    
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Chenault                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Representative Zach Fansler                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative Justin Parish                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 386                                                                                                              
"An Act relating  to abandoned and derelict  vessels; relating to                                                               
the registration  of vessels; relating  to certificates  of title                                                               
for  vessels;  relating  to  the  duties  of  the  Department  of                                                               
Administration;  relating  to the  duties  of  the Department  of                                                               
Natural  Resources; establishing  the derelict  vessel prevention                                                               
program;  establishing  the  derelict vessel  prevention  program                                                               
fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 272                                                                                                              
"An  Act establishing  the Tangle  Lakes State  Game Refuge;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 272 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 260                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to electronic  possession of  certain licenses,                                                               
tags, and identification  cards issued by the  Department of Fish                                                               
and Game; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 260 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 231                                                                                                              
"An  Act  relating  to  the  Alaska  Commercial  Fisheries  Entry                                                               
Commission; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 188                                                                                                              
"An   Act  relating   to   commercial   fishing  entry   permits;                                                               
establishing  regional  fisheries   trusts  and  fisheries  trust                                                               
regions; relating  to commercial  fishing entry permits  held and                                                               
leased by a  regional fisheries trust; relating to  the duties of                                                               
the  Alaska   Commercial  Fisheries  Entry  Commission   and  the                                                               
Department of Commerce, Community,  and Economic Development; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 188(FSH) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 386                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: VESSELS: REGISTRATION/TITLES; DERELICTS                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) SEATON                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/21/18       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/21/18       (H)       FSH, FIN                                                                                               
02/27/18       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 272                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: TANGLE LAKES STATE GAME REFUGE                                                                                     
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) JOSEPHSON                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
01/12/18       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/12/18                                                                               
01/16/18       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/18       (H)       FSH, RES                                                                                               
02/13/18       (H)       FSH AT 11:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
02/13/18       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/13/18       (H)       MINUTE(FSH)                                                                                            
02/27/18       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 260                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: FISH & GAME LICENSES;ELECTRONIC FORM                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) SADDLER                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
01/08/18       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/8/18                                                                                
01/16/18       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/18       (H)       FSH, RES, FIN                                                                                          
02/20/18       (H)       FSH AT 11:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
02/20/18       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/20/18       (H)       MINUTE(FSH)                                                                                            
02/27/18       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 231                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CFEC: BD. SALARY;STAFF CLASSIFIED SERVICE                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
04/15/17       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/15/17       (H)       FSH, FIN                                                                                               
05/02/17       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
05/02/17       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
05/02/17       (H)       MINUTE(FSH)                                                                                            
02/22/18       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
02/22/18       (H)       <Bill Hearing Postponed to 2/27/18>                                                                    
02/27/18       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 188                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: COMM. FISH. ENTRY PERMITS; LOANS; TRUSTS                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
03/20/17       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/20/17       (H)       FSH, L&C                                                                                               
04/13/17       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
04/13/17       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/20/17       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
04/20/17       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/25/17       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
04/25/17       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/25/17       (H)       MINUTE(FSH)                                                                                            
01/25/18       (H)       FSH AT 11:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
01/25/18       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
01/25/18       (H)       MINUTE(FSH)                                                                                            
01/30/18       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
01/30/18       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
01/30/18       (H)       MINUTE(FSH)                                                                                            
02/20/18       (H)       FSH AT 11:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
02/20/18       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/20/18       (H)       MINUTE(FSH)                                                                                            
02/27/18       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL SEATON                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, introduced HB 386.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PATRICIA-NICKELL-ZIMMERMAN, Staff                                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL SEATON                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HB 386, on behalf of the prime                                                                 
sponsor, Representative Paul Seaton.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RACHEL LORD, Executive Secretary                                                                                                
Alaska Association of Harbormasters & Port Administrators                                                                       
(AAHPA)                                                                                                                         
Homer, Alaska (AAHPA)                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a PowerPoint and answered                                                                      
questions on HB 386.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KRIS HESS, Chief of Operations                                                                                                  
Central Office; Division of Mining, Land and Water (DML&W)                                                                      
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the discussion of                                                              
HB 386.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDY JOSEPHSON                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, testified on HB 272.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CARL PORTMAN, Deputy Director                                                                                                   
Resource Development Council (RDC)                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition of HB 272.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BARRY WHITEHILL, Board Member                                                                                                   
Alaska Chapter                                                                                                                  
Backcountry Hunters and Anglers (AKBHA)                                                                                         
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 272.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEANTHA CROCKETT, Executive Director                                                                                            
Alaska Miners Association (AMA)                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 272.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JOEL ELROD                                                                                                                      
Greater Copper Valley Chamber of Commerce (GCVCC)                                                                               
Glennallen, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 272.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JOE MEEHAN, Coordinator                                                                                                         
Division of Wildlife Conservation                                                                                               
Alaska Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G)                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 272.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
KIM SKIPPER, Staff                                                                                                              
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on behalf of the prime sponsor of                                                              
HB 260, Representative Dan Saddler.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MORGAN FOSS, Legislative Liaison                                                                                                
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Alaska Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G)                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the discussion of                                                              
HB 260.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MATT GRUENING, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the changes to the proposed                                                                    
committee substitute (CS) for HB 231, Version D.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MINTA MONTALBO, Special Assistant                                                                                               
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Administration (DOA)                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions and presented the                                                                     
section-by-section analysis of HB 231.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
FATE PUTMAN, Commissioner designee; Chairman                                                                                    
Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC)                                                                                    
Alaska Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G)                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 231.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REID MAGDANZ, Staff                                                                                                             
Representative Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Presented  the changes  in  the  proposed                                                             
committee substitute (CS) for HB 188, Version L.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
BEN STEVENS, Director                                                                                                           
Hunting and Fishing Task Force                                                                                                  
Tanana Chiefs Conference (TCC)                                                                                                  
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on HB 188                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
NICOLE BORROMEO, Executive Vice President; General Counsel                                                                      
Alaska Federation of Natives (AFN)                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support HB 188.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:02:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LOUISE  STUTES  called  the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                             
Fisheries  meeting  to  order  at  10:02  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
Stutes, Neuman,  Kreiss-Tomkins, Tarr,  and Eastman  were present                                                               
at  the  call  to  order.   Representative  Edgmon  and  Chenault                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         HB 386-VESSELS: REGISTRATION/TITLES; DERELICTS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:04:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 386, "An  Act relating to abandoned  and derelict                                                               
vessels;  relating to  the registration  of vessels;  relating to                                                               
certificates of title for vessels;  relating to the duties of the                                                               
Department  of  Administration; relating  to  the  duties of  the                                                               
Department  of  Natural   Resources;  establishing  the  derelict                                                               
vessel  prevention  program;  establishing  the  derelict  vessel                                                               
prevention program fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:05:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL  SEATON, Alaska State Legislature,  said that                                                               
derelict vessels  have long been  a problem that costs  the state                                                               
and  municipalities   significant  money   and  heartache.     He                                                               
previously introduced a derelict vessel  bill in 2013, House Bill                                                               
131, to try to make a  better system.  Previously, the Department                                                               
of  Natural  Resources  (DNR) had  the  sole  responsibility  for                                                               
cleaning  up,  yet  the Department  of  Transportation  &  Public                                                               
Facilities   had   responsibility   for   some   communities   so                                                               
interagency  problems occurred.   He  referred to  the PowerPoint                                                               
presentation and  to slide  3 titled  "A Guy  Walks into  a Bar,"                                                               
which depicts a photo of two  vessels that tried to come into the                                                               
Homer harbor but were turned away.   Once the vessels were turned                                                               
away, they were  anchored up across the bay from  the Homer Spit.                                                               
During the winter, the bilge  pumps failed, the vessels sank, and                                                               
an oil  spill leaked into the  cove.  The previous  bill required                                                               
that  operators turned  away  from harbors  could  not store  the                                                               
vessels  for over  14  days without  removing  all the  hazardous                                                               
materials.  He recalled the  derelict vessels just mentioned cost                                                               
the state $360,000 to remedy, including haul out and storage.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:08:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  said that the harbormasters  and statewide                                                               
task force  meetings hashed out  the derelict vessel  issue; that                                                               
HB 386  requires accountability such as  title information, which                                                               
would  be like  the  title registration  for  vehicles under  the                                                               
Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV).   The purpose would be to deter                                                               
derelict vessels from coming to Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:10:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PATRICIA  NICKELL-ZIMMERMAN, Staff,  Representative Paul  Seaton,                                                               
Alaska  State  Legislature,  explained  that  Rachel  Lord  would                                                               
present a PowerPoint.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:11:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. NICKELL-ZIMMERMAN said  that the State of Alaska  was home to                                                               
aging vessels  that are  moored or  deposited in  Alaska harbors,                                                               
shorelines and  in State tidelands.   Many of these  vessels have                                                               
fallen  into ill  repair,  leading to  their  abandonment in  the                                                               
waters of  Alaska.  The  State of Alaska, its  municipalities and                                                               
ultimately  Alaska   citizens  will  be  accountable   for  these                                                               
derelict  and  abandoned   vessels  without  legislative  action.                                                               
Alaska  waters are  home to  over 9,400  vessels.   By 2025,  the                                                               
Alaska  fleet will  include roughly  3,100 vessels  more than  45                                                               
years old.   In  addition, there  are approximately  68,000 boats                                                               
registered in the state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. NICKELL-ZIMMERMAN  stated that current state  regulations for                                                               
disposal and cleanup  of these aging vessels  contain "no teeth".                                                               
The state  does not  have a change  of ownership  tracking system                                                               
for   vessels.     Derelict   vessels   present  navigation   and                                                               
environmental hazards  and disposal of derelict  vessels falls to                                                               
the state or local municipalities  without the financial means to                                                               
recover costs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. NICKELL-ZIMMERMAN stated that HB  386 would provide a process                                                               
through   the  Department   of  Administration   (DOA)  and   the                                                               
Department of Natural Resources  (DNR) to stanch the accumulation                                                               
of derelict and  abandoned vessels in Alaska.   It would initiate                                                               
ownership tracking  of a  vessel that was  like the  process used                                                               
for motor  vehicles through the  DOA.   It would require  a title                                                               
for nondocumented  vessels and  expand the  registration process.                                                               
It would  update and increase  fines upon conviction  of unlawful                                                               
abandonment of a vessel.  It  would provide a nominal increase in                                                               
state registration  fees and would  create a requirement  and fee                                                               
for state vessel titles.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. NICKELL-ZIMMERMAN  related that  the DNR would  establish and                                                               
administer  a  derelict  vessel prevention  program.    It  would                                                               
outline  a  process for  abatement  of  a derelict  vessel  while                                                               
balancing the public's  rights with those of a vessel  owner.  It                                                               
would  update  and increase  fines  upon  conviction of  unlawful                                                               
abandonment  of a  vessel and  provide  due process  to a  vessel                                                               
owner  with   notices  and  hearings  prior   to  impoundment  or                                                               
disposal.   She  closed  by stating  that HB  386  would take  an                                                               
important  step toward  responsible vessel  ownership to  address                                                               
the current and future derelict vessel issues in Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:14:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RACHEL   LORD,  Executive   Secretary,   Alaska  Association   of                                                               
Harbormasters  & Port  Administrators  (AAHPA),  stated that  the                                                               
AAHPA consisted  of 250 members  who represent most of  the ports                                                               
and  harbors   throughout  Alaska.     She  began   a  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation on derelict vessels.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:15:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD directed  attention to  the  quote on  slide 2,  titled                                                               
"What's   the  Problem?"   which   read   as  follows   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     "By 2025,  the Alaska fleet will  include roughly 3,100                                                                    
     vessels  between 28'  and  59' that  are  more than  45                                                                    
     years   old...the  Alaska   fleet   also  includes   75                                                                    
     passenger  vessels,  tugs,  and barges  over  50  years                                                                    
     old..."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD  stated that the quote  was taken from a  McDowell Group                                                               
report that was  done for the Alaska  maritime industrial support                                                               
sector.  This  statement was considered a positive  goal for ship                                                               
building; however,  this highlighted a problem,  that Alaska does                                                               
not  have a  "cradle-to-grave" plan  for vessels.   She  directed                                                               
attention  to a  link to  a YouTube  https://youtu.be/S-SFGTzlA1g                                                               
that a private citizen created  which illustrated the problems of                                                               
derelict vessels in Steamboat Slough in Bethel.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:16:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD  turned to  slide 3,  titled "A Guy  Walks into  a Bar,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     We  love our  boats, and  we depend  on our  coasts and                                                                    
     rivers  for transportation,  commerce,  and quality  of                                                                    
     life.   But  there is  no denying  the immense  cost of                                                                    
     owning  and  maintaining  a boat.    Those  costs  only                                                                    
     increase over time.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD explained  that boats  can last  for decades;  however,                                                               
what happens  is a vessel gets  passed on to the  next person and                                                               
as a  boat ages  it often has  been passed on  to a  person least                                                               
able  to   maintain  the   vessel  to  keep   it  afloat.     She                                                               
characterized this as a national problem.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:17:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD turned to the  next slice, titled "Jakolof Bay 2012-13,"                                                               
which  consisted of  a photograph  of  a boat  that sank.     She                                                               
stated that the photograph depicts one  of two boats that sank on                                                               
Christmas Eve  in 2012 in  Jakolof Bay.   She explained  that the                                                               
person who purchased the boats  in Sand Point traveled to Kodiak,                                                               
then on  to Seldovia and  Homer, but  was not allowed  into those                                                               
harbors.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD explained currently the  statutes to address the problem                                                               
have minimally  addressed derelict vessels.   These statutes were                                                               
enacted in  1976 and minimally  updated in 2013 under  House Bill                                                               
131.  Municipalities  who have the authority  to address derelict                                                               
vessels have been  doing so; for example,  Homer Kodiak, Cordova,                                                               
and CBJ [Juneau] all have  strong ordinances to protect customers                                                               
and  the [harbors],  the working  infrastructure, against  vessel                                                               
owners who  cannot pay moorages  and endanger other vessels.   At                                                               
the end of the day, the  state and the smaller communities who do                                                               
not have the funding to  afford them legal protections become the                                                               
[financial] losers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:19:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD  turned  to  slide   5,  titled  "A  growing  Problem,"                                                               
depicting a  map, and which  read, in part, as  follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADNR  has  begun  a  database,   but  it  is  far  from                                                                    
     complete.   There are  nearly 200  documented derelicts                                                                    
     across  Alaska.   we  know  many  more exist,  and  the                                                                    
     number will continue to increase.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD turned  to slide 6, titled "The Public  Pays The Price,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     With  outdated statutes,  our municipalities  and state                                                                    
     agencies are  unable to effectively prevent  and manage                                                                    
     derelict  vessels.    Alaskan   waters  are  a  default                                                                    
     dumping ground.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD stated  that Washington  has improved  and strengthened                                                               
its derelict vessel  laws in the past five years,  which tends to                                                               
encourage  dumping  vessels in  Alaska  since  Alaska really  has                                                               
become a very soft target.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:20:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD directed  attention to slide 7, titled  "Solutions in HB                                                               
386," which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Over a two-year period,  the Derelict Vessel Task Force                                                                    
     identified  major  barriers  and solutions  to  improve                                                                    
     derelict vessel prevention and management in Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD added  that the AAHPA, the Alaska  Clean Harbors Program                                                               
created a voluntary ad hoc  Derelict Vessel Task Force, with open                                                               
participation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:21:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.   LORD   continued  with   slide   8,   titled  "Task   Force                                                               
Participants,"  which  read   as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADNR, Mining Land & Water                                                                                                  
     ADEC, Spill Prevention & Response                                                                                          
     ADOT, Ports & Harbors                                                                                                      
     ADF&G, Habitat                                                                                                             
     USCG, Sectors Anchorage & Juneau/Div. of Waterways                                                                         
     Management                                                                                                                 
     NOAA, Marine Debris Program/Restoration                                                                                    
     EPA, Response Region 10                                                                                                    
     AAHPA (Bethel, Homer)                                                                                                      
     Orutsararmiut Native Councils                                                                                              
     Sen. Lisa Murkowski's office                                                                                               
     Alaska Marine Response                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD stated  that the  task force,  consisting of  state and                                                               
federal agencies,  [and participants  listed on this  slide], met                                                               
for nine full  days over a two-year period.   The Derelict Vessel                                                               
Task Force  (DVTF) had pro bono  legal support from the  law firm                                                               
Birch Horton Bittner  & Cherot, a firm  with extensive experience                                                               
in issues related to derelict vessels and admiralty law.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:22:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD stated that the genesis of  HB 386 came from the work of                                                               
the  DVTF,  whose  participants reviewed  case  studies,  current                                                               
methods  used for  disposing of  derelict vessels  and how  those                                                               
methods  could  be  improved,  and  other  states'  remedies  for                                                               
derelict vessels.   She  characterized HB 386  as a  strong bill,                                                               
one that  was vetted by  stakeholders, who assessed  and reviewed                                                               
the current derelict vessel situation in Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD provided a brief  section-by-section analysis of HB 386,                                                               
noting  that  Sections   1-8  were  changes  to   AS  05.25,  the                                                               
watercraft chapter.   The  goal of  the DVTF was  to make  as few                                                               
changes as  possible, noting the  state's boating  safety program                                                               
was established in AS 05.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:23:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD  turned to slide  9, titled "Registration  and Titling,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Agencies  and  municipalities have  found  establishing                                                                    
     ownership is  one of the  major hurdles to  hold owners                                                                    
     responsible  for  derelict   vessels.    Requiring  all                                                                    
     vessels operating in Alaska to  be registered with DMV,                                                                    
     and beginning  a titling system for  vessels similar to                                                                    
     that  in  place  for motor  vehicles,  are  commonsense                                                                    
     solutions to improve accountability.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD  stated the DVTF  determined that the only  changes that                                                               
were  necessary   to  AS  05.25  related   to  vessel  ownership.                                                               
Currently 68,000  vessels are registered in  Alaska; however, the                                                               
state does not  know how many documented vessels  are in Alaska's                                                               
waters.   The provisions in HB  386 would expand the  universe of                                                               
registration to  include documented vessels, which  has been done                                                               
in at least  26 other states, including Washington.   She related                                                               
that  currently  vessel registration  fees  are  $24 every  three                                                               
years.   The bill would increase  this to $30 every  three years.                                                               
The  other change  in  AS  05 would  be  to  establish a  titling                                                               
program  for  the state,  which  would  not apply  to  documented                                                               
vessels but  would require titles  for non-documented  vessels in                                                               
Alaska.   This  would  provide personal  property protection  for                                                               
owners,  just  as  for  vehicle   owners.    Boat  trailers  have                                                               
considerably less liability  than a boat to people  over time and                                                               
this bill would regulate vessels and  trailers to be more in line                                                               
with the current DMV vehicle registration system.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:25:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD turned  to slide  10, titled  "Increase Clarity"  which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Agencies  and municipalities  statewide need  increased                                                                    
     clarity for  defining a derelict vessel  ownership, and                                                                    
     for   the  impoundment   process  including   clarified                                                                    
     hearing and  notice requirements.   SB  updates Chapter                                                                    
     30.30  to  bring clarity  and  improve  utility of  the                                                                    
     statutes.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD  explained that the  remainder of the bill  were changes                                                               
to derelict  vessels under AS  30.30, which was written  in 1976.                                                               
The  DVTT  rewrote that  chapter  in  its entirety.    Currently,                                                               
before a derelict vessel such as  the Akutan could be dealt with,                                                               
agencies  and municipalities  must determine  whether the  vessel                                                               
would be  considered as  "abandoned" or  as a  "derelict vessel."                                                               
This  definition matters  because  the path  for impoundment  and                                                               
disposal process  differs depending on  how a vessel  is defined,                                                               
she said.  This bill  would dramatically improve clarity since it                                                               
would define all  abandoned vessels as derelict  vessels under AS                                                               
30.30.  It would  also clarify what it means to  own a vessel, as                                                               
well  as the  impoundment process.    Some have  argued that  the                                                               
state  law may  not be  constitutional  in terms  of due  process                                                               
under federal  admiralty law.   The provisions in HB  386 improve                                                               
due  process  for boat  owners  and  spell  out the  process  for                                                               
noticing,  impoundment, and  hearings  for vessels  deemed to  be                                                               
derelict vessels.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:27:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD directed  attention to  slide  11, titled  "Enforcement                                                               
Authority  &   Increased  Penalties,"   which  read   as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Current  statutes  restrict   enforcement  of  derelict                                                                    
     vessel laws.   One major way to  reduce vessel sinkings                                                                    
     and prevent owners from walking  away is to provide for                                                                    
     enforcement of  the chapter to hold  owners accountable                                                                    
     and  prevent derelict  vessels from  sinking on  public                                                                    
     waters.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD stated  that the current statutes  limit enforcement for                                                               
derelict vessels.   The provisions  in HB 386 would  increase the                                                               
enforcement  authority   and  penalties   and  allow   for  civil                                                               
penalties  instead  of  restricting   derelict  vessels  only  to                                                               
criminal  penalties.   The current  enforcement of  writing stern                                                               
letters  to vessel  owners has  not  worked and  this bill  would                                                               
improve enforcement.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:27:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD turned to slide  12, titled "Clarified Liability," which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Hearing concerns  from agencies and public,  Task Force                                                                    
     members acknowledged  that it is important  to be clear                                                                    
     that a vessel owner is  liable for all costs associated                                                                    
     with  the   impoundment,  storage  and  removal   of  a                                                                    
     derelict vessel.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD  said that it was  difficult to hold someone  liable for                                                               
walking  away from  an old  boat when  he/she does  not have  any                                                               
financial resources.   The DVTF decided it was  important to hold                                                               
these  derelict  vessel  parties   liable,  regardless  of  their                                                               
financial resources.   It was important to have  strong laws that                                                               
can  be enforced;  that when  the state  and municipalities  have                                                               
strong laws  people are  informed not  to get  into irresponsible                                                               
situations with  vessels.  The  bill provides clarity  for vessel                                                               
owners and enforcement authorities  that vessel owners are liable                                                               
for all  costs associated with  impoundment, storage  and removal                                                               
of derelict vessels.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:28:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD  turned to  slide  13,  titled "Streamlined  Capacity,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Outside  states have  found significant  improvement in                                                                    
     derelict   vessel   prevention    and   management   by                                                                    
     streamlining   their   efforts  through   a   statewide                                                                    
     program/point person.   Having  a point person  at ADNR                                                                    
     will concentrate  work that is currently  being done by                                                                    
     numerous   staff,  will   reduce  overall   costs,  and                                                                    
     increase efficacy of derelict vessel management.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD  indicated that  the bill  would provide  provisions for                                                               
the creation of  a derelict vessel prevention  program under DNR.                                                               
She reported  that some  DNR agency  members attended  a National                                                               
Oceanic  and  Atmospheric  Administration  (NOAA)  conference  on                                                               
derelict  vessels.   These staff  returned feeling  positive once                                                               
they realized that  none of the states have the  funds to dispose                                                               
of  derelict vessels.    States that  have  established a  "point                                                               
person"  and  funded  a  proactive  program  to  handle  derelict                                                               
vessels have  found the problem  diminished over time.   She said                                                               
that language within  HB 386 was permissive to  allow creation of                                                               
a derelict  vessel prevention fund  and to allow  the legislature                                                               
to  appropriate funds  for the  program.   Currently, the  public                                                               
does not have any state or  local agency staff to contact about a                                                               
derelict  vessel that  has been  abandoned on  state waters  even                                                               
though abandoned  vessels routinely  happen.  She  explained that                                                               
HB  386  allows  DNR  the statutory  authority  and  capacity  to                                                               
streamline the  work related to  derelict vessels.  In  fact, DNR                                                               
as managers of the state's  public land and water, currently must                                                               
perform  the work.   Unfortunately,  these staff  must work  on a                                                               
case-by-case basis  to deal with abandoned  derelict vessels, she                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:30:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD turned  to slide  14,  titled "Cradle-to-Grave,"  which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Addressing vessel disposal was  outside of the scope of                                                                    
     the Task  Force, but  must be  addressed.   Through the                                                                    
     derelict  vessel  prevention  program, the  state  will                                                                    
     have the  opportunity to begin  looking at  options for                                                                    
     vessel disposal, scrap, and  salvage solutions that can                                                                    
     benefit  the   private  sector  and  be   a  reasonable                                                                    
     alternative to vessel abandonment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD  characterized  the   cradle-to-grave  view  of  vessel                                                               
management  as important,  noting  that the  DVTF  had plenty  of                                                               
ideas but  did not solve  the issues.   She pointed out  that the                                                               
bill contained permissive language  within the prevention program                                                               
section to allow the department  to consider some cradle-to-grave                                                               
options.  Alaska  does not have a lot of  financial capacity, but                                                               
she  said  the  state  could still  consider  long-term  planning                                                               
options  related  to  derelict   vessels  to  remove  boats  from                                                               
waterways before they sink.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:31:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD turned  to slide  15, titled  "Juneau Empire  Editorial                                                               
Oct.  15,  2015,  which read  as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  Alaska  Department  of  Natural  Resources...lacks                                                                    
     even the authority to fine...for littering.                                                                                
     ...In places  like Bethel, which  has a  dumping ground                                                                    
     called Steamboat  Slough, the  problem of  derelict and                                                                    
     abandoned boats  long ago broke  the surface  of public                                                                    
     awareness.                                                                                                                 
     ...we could instead simply  mandate the registration of                                                                    
     all boats --commercial  and recreational alike--through                                                                    
     the DMV. We could also  mandate that boats of a certain                                                                    
     size,  like all  cars,  carry  insurance sufficient  to                                                                    
     cover their salvage.                                                                                                       
     At the  very least,  we could  grant the  Department of                                                                  
     Natural Resources  the simple  authority to  levy fines                                                                  
     on those who pollute Alaska's waters.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD  said that  when  the  sunken  tug Challenger  sunk  in                                                               
Gastineau Channel  in 2016, that  numerous people  wrote letters.                                                               
She directed attention to the  final sentence on the slide, taken                                                               
from an editorial in the Juneau  Empire, which read, "At the very                                                               
least, we  could grant  the Department  of Natural  Resources the                                                               
simple  authority to  levy fines  on those  who pollute  Alaska's                                                               
waters."  She stated that this was something HB 386 will do.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:32:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD turned to slide 16,  with quotes from a Washington State                                                               
newspaper, the  Chinook Observer, March  22, 2017, which  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     "Too many  people get  in over  their heads,  and their                                                                    
     dreams of  ship renovation  or making money  from scrap                                                                    
     become a nightmare for the citizens of this state and                                                                      
     the marine environment.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ...'A hole in  the water into which you  pour money' is                                                                    
     a famous  definition of a  boat. To the  maximum extent                                                                    
     possible,  we must  ensure taxpayers  are not  the ones                                                                    
     doing the pouring."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:32:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD turned to slide 17,  titled "HCR 53 1990" which read, in                                                               
part, as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      WHEREAS the state does not currently have statutory                                                                       
         authority to impose liability on the owners of                                                                         
     abandoned vessels...                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS LORD  noted the  slide had  a copy of  a resolution  from 1990                                                               
that  identified the  problem;  however,  nothing happened  until                                                               
2013, and  now, in 2018,  the derelict  vessel law is  just being                                                               
brought forward.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:32:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.   LORD   turned   to   slide   18,   titled   "Akutan   Dutch                                                               
Harbor/Unalaska," and commented that there  were many articles on                                                               
the Akutan that members could read.   She said that she was aware                                                               
of only three vessels impounded  by DNR under the derelict vessel                                                               
laws: two in  Katchemak Bay, and the Akutan,  which was impounded                                                               
in  December   at  Unalaska.     She   stated  that   the  state,                                                               
municipality,  and  federal  governments  worked  on  a  creative                                                               
solution  to dispose  of the  Akutan.   She turned  to slide  19,                                                               
titled "Questions," and asked members if they had any questions.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:34:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  asked about  the annual cost  for derelict                                                               
vessels.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD deferred  to  the  DNR but  noted  that  there was  not                                                               
funding  set aside.   She  acknowledged  that considerable  staff                                                               
time has been spent on derelict  vessel and in terms of pollution                                                               
response,  that  the  Department  of  Environmental  Conservation                                                               
(DEC) and the US Coast Guard have funds for cleanup.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:36:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KRIS  HESS,  Chief of  Operations,  Central  Office, Division  of                                                               
Mining, Land  and Water (DML&W), Department  of Natural Resources                                                               
(DNR), responded  that the  DNR does not  have funding  set aside                                                               
for derelict vessel  disposal.  Anything that the  agency does on                                                               
derelict vessels must be taken from the operating budget.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:36:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN asked  how much has been  spent on derelict                                                               
vessels.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. HESS  answered that in  2017, the  DNR did not  expend funds.                                                               
In 2018,  the DNR expended  funds for  disposal of the  Akutan in                                                               
the amount of $36,000.  The  City of Unalaska agreed to reimburse                                                               
those costs, she said.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:37:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   pointed  out  that  a   vessel  becomes                                                               
derelict after it anchors any place  it is not supposed to do so.                                                               
He offered  his belief there could  be many instances in  which a                                                               
person would  anchor a vessel  for safety  or other reasons.   He                                                               
asked for further clarification  that would address the timeframe                                                               
for the definition of "derelict vessel."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LORD  said  that  the definition  for  derelict  vessel  was                                                               
derived from current  statutes.  She explained that  AS 30.30 has                                                               
several  definitions for  abandoned and  derelict vessels,  which                                                               
were  combined.    She  referred  to  AS  30.30.030,  related  to                                                               
applicability.  She  stated that the DVTF worked with  the DNR on                                                               
the  definition and  limitation  on applicability.   The  chapter                                                               
does not apply in safety situations, she said.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:39:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  referred to page  12, line 22, of  HB 386                                                               
and  asked  whether  the  language  expanded  the  definition  of                                                               
derelict vessel.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. LORD responded  by advising that the goal was  to be as clear                                                               
as possible;  for example, some  people might consider  moored to                                                               
be tied  to a  dock versus  anchored in open  water.   She stated                                                               
that  the language  would also  apply  to municipalities  without                                                               
ordinances  or  other  laws;  this   chapter  needed  to  provide                                                               
explicit  clarity to  give  them the  protection  and ability  to                                                               
address  derelict  vessels  under  state  law.    The  additional                                                               
language  was  more  to  provide   clarity  than  to  expand  the                                                               
definition, she said.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:41:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. NICKELL-ZIMMERMAN  responded that the bill  sections had been                                                               
thoroughly addressed by Ms. Lord.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:42:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR  said it  was disconcerting  to her  that the                                                               
state  does  not have  financial  resources  to put  towards  the                                                               
problem  of abandoned  and derelict  vessels.   She expressed  an                                                               
interest  in exploring  funding  especially  since these  vessels                                                               
could impact fisheries along Alaska's coastline.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:43:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced that she would set HB 386 aside.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[HB 386 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
             HB 272-TANGLE LAKES STATE GAME REFUGE                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:43:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  272, "An Act establishing the  Tangle Lakes State                                                               
Game Refuge; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:44:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDY  JOSEPHSON, Alaska State  Legislature, stated                                                               
that  HB  272 was  presented  two  weeks  ago, and  a  PowerPoint                                                               
described the nature of the bill.   He briefly recapped the bill,                                                               
noting  the  bill  was  introduced  because  of  an  interest  in                                                               
creating the Tangle  Lakes State Game Refuge by  people along the                                                               
highway  corridor.      He  stated that  he  received  an  e-mail                                                               
yesterday  from Marty  Parsons, DNR,  and read  a quote  from the                                                               
email,  as follows,  "Our research  indicates that  there are  no                                                               
active claims  in the  Tangle Lakes  area under  consideration in                                                               
Representative  Josephson's  current  legislation."    His  staff                                                               
presented a  PowerPoint that  showed a handful  of claims  in the                                                               
Southeast Alaska corner of the  proposed TLSGR, but those are not                                                               
currently active.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:46:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  referred to  a  memo  from Mr.  Robert                                                               
Tobey, Division  of Wildlife  Conservation, Alaska  Department of                                                               
Fish  & Game  (ADF&G),  dated  December 19,  2002  to the  Copper                                                               
Country Alliance.   He read  a portion  of the last  paragraph of                                                               
the memo [in  members' packets], which read  as follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     It is  my position  that the  importance of  the Denali                                                                    
     Block as  wildlife habitat, tourist  destination, sport                                                                    
     fishing, subsistence  food gathering and  trapping area                                                                    
     exceeds  all  mining  value.   All  these  uses  except                                                                    
     mining  have  minimal  impact  on   the  land  and  are                                                                    
     renewable yearly.   Certainly an impact  study and cost                                                                    
     benefit  analyses are  warranted  in view  of the  high                                                                    
     value  of current  uses compared  to an  unknown mining                                                                    
     value.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON suggested  that  this  was a  "friendly                                                               
letter" from  Governor Murkowski's  administration.   He referred                                                               
to a letter of March 2008  from Cliff Judkins, Chairman, Board of                                                               
Game [in  members' packets], who  asked for  immediate discussion                                                               
and immediate consideration of a game refuge in this area.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  emphasized that the concept  of a state                                                               
game  refuge in  the Tangle  Lakes area  has been  considered for                                                               
some time and continues to be requested.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:47:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES opened public testimony on HB 272.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:48:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CARL  PORTMAN,  Deputy  Director,  Resource  Development  Council                                                               
(RDC), testified  in opposition  to HB 272.   The  RDC encourages                                                               
the exploration  and responsible development of  Alaska's natural                                                               
resources, he said.   He stated that creating a  new refuge would                                                               
restrict or  eliminate the potential opportunities  in the Tangle                                                               
Lake  area, including  mineral development.    Further, it  would                                                               
create new  restrictions to  land use  at a  time when  the state                                                               
faces fiscal and other challenges.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. PORTMAN pointed  out that Alaska already  contains 70 percent                                                               
of the  federal national  park lands, 85  percent of  the federal                                                               
national wildlife  refuges, and two  of the largest parks  in the                                                               
nation,  and many  other state  conservation units  such as  game                                                               
refuges.    The RDC  supports  multiple  use  of lands,  such  as                                                               
recreational use and other potential  uses.  The state must focus                                                               
on ways to show  that Alaska is open for business.   He urged the                                                               
committee to reject HB 272.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:50:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BARRY  WHITEHILL,  Board   Member,  Alaska  Chapter,  Backcountry                                                               
Hunters  and Anglers  (AKBHA),  stated that  the  AKBHA has  long                                                               
supported the Tangle Lakes State  Game Refuge (TLSGR).  He stated                                                               
that this area  has been the breadbasket  for Southcentral Alaska                                                               
for  subsistence and  recreational  hunting,  fishing, and  berry                                                               
picking.  Many members know that  the Denali Highway has been the                                                               
premier route  for tourist  destinations.   It certainly  has the                                                               
archeological protections in  place for some of  the segment, and                                                               
some  Fairbanksans travel  to  the area  to hunt  and  fish.   He                                                               
acknowledged the  importance of hunting and  fishing to Alaskans.                                                               
He offered the AKBHA's support for the TLSGR.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:51:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEANTHA CROCKETT,  Executive Director, Alaska  Miners Association                                                               
(AMA), stated  that the sponsor's statement  states the potential                                                               
for  nonrenewable  activities  in the  region  could  irreparably                                                               
damage  the environment.    A century  of  experience shows  this                                                               
premise, that one must choose  between renewable and nonrenewable                                                               
resources to be false.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CROCKETT said  the Denali Highway region  around the proposed                                                               
refuge  has been  the subject  of mineral  exploration since  the                                                               
turn of  the century and  modern mining exploration  increased in                                                               
this region  in the 1990s.   While most of the  activity occurred                                                               
outside the  proposed refuge area,  work has occurred  within and                                                               
substantial  exploration  has  taken  place to  the  north  where                                                               
access would  be impeded by the  refuge.  History has  shown that                                                               
nearby large  mines have not  created long-term  impacts asserted                                                               
by the  sponsor, and  have, in fact,  avoided the  impact through                                                               
the mining industry's expensive regulatory  process.  Most of the                                                               
recent  exploration has  been  helicopter  supported with  little                                                               
ground impact.  Neither DNR  or ADF&G have found that exploration                                                               
has caused significant effects on recreational wildlife.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CROCKETT  said that when  the same refuge was  proposed about                                                               
ten years  ago, the  DNR stated  that very  few people  using the                                                               
Tangle Lakes area,  or the Delta Wild and Scenic  River even knew                                                               
that metal  exploration was occurring in  the area.  Most  of the                                                               
proposed   refuge   area   was    within   DNR's   Tangle   Lakes                                                               
Archaeological District  Special Use Area,  enacted in 2003.   At                                                               
the time, DNR  assessed the area and  concluded that unrestricted                                                               
motorized  recreation   had  the  greatest  potential   to  cause                                                               
significant impact  to cultural and  heritage sites in  the area.                                                               
For that  reason, DNR enacted  rules to manage recreation  in the                                                               
area,  which is  a vehicle  for additional  rules if  they become                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:53:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CROCKETT stated that if the  area is not closed it was likely                                                               
to  be explored  again.   She  characterized the  area as  highly                                                               
mineralized  host   to  the  incredibly  rich   Kennecott  copper                                                               
deposits.    The  significant  potential  of  minerals  has  been                                                               
included  in the  recently published  list by  the US  Geological                                                               
Survey (USGS) of  minerals that are critical  to national defense                                                               
and the  economy.  A secure  supply of domestic sources  of these                                                               
minerals  is a  priority for  our country  and it  should be  for                                                               
Alaska, as well, she said.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CROCKETT  said that  it has  been proven  in Alaska  that the                                                               
state does not need to make  a choice between the environment and                                                               
resource  development.   The AMA  strongly  opposes the  proposed                                                               
refuge in HB 272.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:54:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOEL ELROD,  Greater Copper Valley  Chamber of  Commerce (GCVCC),                                                               
stated that the GCVCC offered its  opposition to HB 272, for many                                                               
of the same reasons that Mr. Portman mentioned.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:54:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES, after  first determining no one  wished to testify,                                                               
closed public testimony on HB 272.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:55:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN asked  for further  clarification on  the                                                               
health  of the  Nelchina Caribou  herd  and if  the numbers  were                                                               
increasing or decreasing.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON answered  that  he did  not  know.   He                                                               
commented that at  least 40 people have written in  support of HB                                                               
272, expressing their  concerns about the health  of the Nelchina                                                               
caribou herd.   This was  also referenced in the  previous letter                                                               
mentioned by  the Chairman of the  Board of Game in  2008 and the                                                               
Division of  Habitat, ADF&G in  2002.   He stated that  this bill                                                               
was about protecting that herd.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:56:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT pointed out that  the bill had no Finance                                                               
Committee referral and  had two zero fiscal  notes; however, both                                                               
fiscal notes  referred to  absorbing the costs  of the  bill into                                                               
current budgets.   He  said that  state agencies  have complained                                                               
that  they   cannot  accomplish  their   responsibilities  within                                                               
current budgets.   He stated  that any costs associated  with the                                                               
bill should  be reflected  in the fiscal  notes and  offered that                                                               
the   legislature   needed   quality  fiscal   notes   from   the                                                               
administration in order to accurately formulate a budget.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:58:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOE  MEEHAN,  Coordinator,   Division  of  Wildlife  Conservation                                                               
(DWC), Alaska  Department of Fish  & Game (ADF&G),  answered that                                                               
as the fiscal note stated, the  division would add the new duties                                                               
associated with the proposed refuge  into the division's existing                                                               
workload.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:58:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT  asked at  what point  in time  the ADF&G                                                               
would absorb  so much  work that the  department could  no longer                                                               
absorb more and would require additional funding.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEEHAN said he could not  answer that question.  He explained                                                               
that  the management  plan development  permit applications  were                                                               
prioritized based on public interest  and needs.  He acknowledged                                                               
that the division would need to prioritize requests.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:59:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT further asked what  would be left off the                                                               
current workload to make this happen.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEEHAN said that the  current workload includes administering                                                               
management  plans,  permit reviews,  and  field  operations.   He                                                               
stated  that  primarily  field operations  deal  with  monitoring                                                               
resources, encouraging  public use and  education.  He  could not                                                               
specifically identify  what would  be dropped  if the  new refuge                                                               
was  created.    He  further   stated  that  the  division  would                                                               
obviously  have to  juggle priorities  dealing with  the type  of                                                               
field activities that the ADF&G engage in for refuge areas.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:00:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES  asked about  the  earlier  question regarding  the                                                               
Nelchina caribou herd.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEEHAN  offered  to  respond  back  to  the  committee  with                                                               
information on the Nelchina caribou herd.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:01:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN offered  his concerns  about the  herd by                                                               
the  ADF&G 16  years ago  were probably  dated.   He related  his                                                               
understanding that  the state  had taken  steps to  address those                                                               
concerns.  He also expressed  concern that potential revenue from                                                               
mining in the proposed region  would be lost, which concerned him                                                               
because  the  state   currently  faces  a  fiscal   crisis.    He                                                               
characterized  this   bill  as   looking  through  the   lens  of                                                               
supporting mining or opposing mining.   Those who think mining is                                                               
good for Alaska  would not likely support the bill  but those who                                                               
oppose mining would probably find HB 272 to be a "great bill."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:02:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES said that the  committee received a lot more support                                                               
for the bill  than opposition to the bill.   She related that the                                                               
bill has  two zero  fiscal notes  and it has  come to  light that                                                               
there are no mining claims in the area.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:02:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT asked  for further  clarification as  to                                                               
whether there were no mining  claims within the proposed TLSGR or                                                               
if there were no active mining claims.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON responded that  there were mining claims                                                               
in the Amphitheater  area north of the border of  the refuge.  He                                                               
further  responded  that  yesterday  Mr.  Marty  Parsons,  Deputy                                                               
Director, Division  of Mining, Land  & Water, DNR  stated, "There                                                               
are no active claims in  the Tangle Lake Area under consideration                                                               
in the current legislation."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:04:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  moved to  report HB  272 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Stutes,  Edgmon,                                                               
Kreiss-Tomkins,  and Tarr,  voted in  favor of  reporting HB  272                                                               
from committee.  Representatives  Chenault, Neuman, Eastman voted                                                               
against  it.   Therefore,  HB  272 was  reported  from the  House                                                               
Special Committee on Fisheries by a vote of 4-3.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:05:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 11:05 a.m. to 11:07 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          HB 260-FISH & GAME LICENSES;ELECTRONIC FORM                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:07:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 260, "An  Act relating to electronic possession of                                                               
certain licenses,  tags, and identification  cards issued  by the                                                               
Department  of Fish  and  Game; and  providing  for an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:08:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KIM  SKIPPER, Staff,  Representative  Dan  Saddler, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, stated that  HB 260 seeks to use a  smartphone as an                                                               
electronic  device   to  display  digital  hunting   and  fishing                                                               
licenses provided the means to move forward to the digital age.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:09:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  opened public testimony  on HB 260 and  after first                                                               
determining no one wished to  testify, closed public testimony on                                                               
HB 260.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:09:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CHENAULT  related   his  understanding   of  the                                                               
intention of HB 260  was to take a photo of  a hunting or fishing                                                               
license  and to  allow digital  hunting and  fishing licenses  on                                                               
smartphones and  present it to  an officer  if required to  do so                                                               
[as proof  of license].   He asked  whether this extended  to the                                                               
"OFL license," which is the  [sport fishing, hunting and trapping                                                               
identification card for senior Alaska residents].                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER deferred to ADF&G to respond.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:10:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MORGAN  FOSS, Legislative  Liaison, Office  of the  Commissioner,                                                               
Alaska  Department   of  Fish  &  Game   (ADF&G),  responded  the                                                               
department's  interpretation was  that  the bill  was written  in                                                               
such  a way  as to  allow  permanent identification  cards to  be                                                               
displayed on electronic devices.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:10:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   asked  for  further   clarification  on                                                               
overlap between this bill and SB 16 before the legislature.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER  answered that SB  16 and  HB 129 were  omnibus bills                                                               
that included many other components  and electronic licensing was                                                               
just one.  The sponsor  decided to keep electronic ADF&G licenses                                                               
separate in this bill.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:11:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  pointed out  that he was  a member  of the                                                               
National Assembly  of Sportsmen's caucus (NASC),  which discussed                                                               
the  issue of  electronic licensing  extensively and  many states                                                               
have  moved   to  electronic  display  of   licensing  to  reduce                                                               
paperwork   and  for   the  convenience   for   those  who   have                                                               
smartphones.  He asked how many  states have enacted this type of                                                               
electronic display of sport licenses.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. SKIPPER was unsure of the  number of states; however, she did                                                               
know that  Virginia and  Missouri were among  them.   Some states                                                               
also allowed  electronic game "tags"  to be displayed,  but ADF&G                                                               
did not want to do so  currently, but other states were moving in                                                               
that direction.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES said the bill has been widely supported.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:12:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  moved to  report HB  260 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There being no objection,  HB 260 was reported  from the                                                               
House Special Committee on Fisheries.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:12:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 11:12 a.m. to 11:16 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        HB 231-CFEC: BD. SALARY;STAFF CLASSIFIED SERVICE                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:16:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 231,  "An Act relating  to the  Alaska Commercial                                                               
Fisheries  Entry  Commission;  and  providing  for  an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:16:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB   231,  labeled  30-GH1053\D,  Bullard,                                                               
2/14/18 [Version D] as the working document.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES advised that the motion  could not be adopted as the                                                               
committee lacked a quorum.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[The  committee   proceeded  as   though  the  motion   had  been                                                               
withdrawn.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:17:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:17:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB   231,  labeled  30-GH1053\D,  Bullard,                                                               
2/14/18,  as the  working document.   There  being no  objection,                                                               
Version D was before the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[CHAIR STUTES listed the individuals available to testify.]                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:19:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MATT GRUENING, Staff, Representative  Louise Stutes, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, introduced himself.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:19:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MINTA MONTALBO,  Special Assistant,  Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department of Administration (DOA), introduced herself.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:19:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  stated that the proposed  committee substitute (CS)                                                               
for  HB  231, Version  D,  represents  efforts between  the  bill                                                               
sponsor,  the  administration,   representatives  of  the  United                                                               
Fishermen  of Alaska  (UFA), and  the Commercial  Fisheries Entry                                                               
Commission (CFEC).   He stated that the changes  were a consensus                                                               
of all parties.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:19:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING referred to page 1, line  9, to Section 1 of HB 231.                                                               
He stated  that this reduced  the number of commissioners  on the                                                               
Commercial Fisheries  Entry Commission (CFEC) from  three to two.                                                               
He  offered to  explain  more on  this later.    The next  change                                                               
occurred on page  1, lines 13-14, which specifies  that a vacancy                                                               
on  the  commission does  not  impair  the  ability of  a  single                                                               
commissioner to  exercise all  powers of  the commission.   Since                                                               
the  proposed  CS for  HB  231  removed  one commissioner,  if  a                                                               
vacancy occurs, this gives the  commissioner to exercise the full                                                               
authority   of  the   commission  in   adjudicatory  proceedings,                                                               
transactions, and day to day activities.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING directed  attention  to page  2,  lines 3-5,  which                                                               
specifies that  a single member  of the commission  constitutes a                                                               
quorum.   He  stated that  another  change will  be necessary  in                                                               
proposed Section 3.  On page 2,  line 3-6, the proposed CS for HB                                                               
231  read,  "A single  member  [TWO  MEMBERS] of  the  commission                                                             
constitutes  [CONSTITUTE]   a  quorum  for  the   transaction  of                                                             
business, for the  performance of a duty, or for  the exercise of                                                               
a power of the commission.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING explained that the intent  was for this to apply for                                                               
the  transaction of  business and  the performance  of duty  when                                                               
there was not  a vacancy; but only when a  vacancy occurred would                                                               
it include the exercise of a  power of the commission.  He stated                                                               
that  further  clarification  was   necessary  to  clarify  which                                                               
instances the single commissioner can  exercise all powers of the                                                               
commission and  when the commissioner  can transact  business and                                                               
perform  duties.   The sponsor  wanted  to avoid  an instance  in                                                               
which there  was not a vacancy  and the commissioner was  able to                                                               
exercise  the full  powers  on an  adjudication  simply when  the                                                               
other  commissioner  was not  available.    However, the  sponsor                                                               
would like a single commissioner  to be able to transact business                                                               
or perform his/her duties for day-to-day routine work.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:22:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN related  his understanding  that a  single                                                               
commissioner would  have the  authority to  sign off  on matters.                                                               
He expressed  concern that the  Governor would have the  power to                                                               
keep a position vacant and  therefore one commissioner would have                                                               
significant power.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  said that he had  not had any discussions  with the                                                               
administration; however, he understood the concern.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:23:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  directed attention to  proposed Section 4,  on page                                                               
2,  lines  6-10, AS  16.43.060  of  HB 231.    He  read from  the                                                               
document titled  "CS HB 231  Explanation of Changes,"  which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4:  Modified  from   original  bill.  This  section                                                               
     maintains the current  statutory salary at Range  27 for the                                                               
     commissioner serving as  chair, as the chair  is expected to                                                               
     perform additional  duties and functions. The  original bill                                                               
     reduced the chair's  salary to a Range 24.  The salary range                                                               
     for  the second  commissioner continues  to be  reduced from                                                               
     Range 27 to 24, as in the original bill.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING   explained  that  the  chair   would  have  direct                                                               
oversight  of the  other commissioner  and would  have the  final                                                               
say.    Further,  the  chair  would  absorb  the  duties  of  the                                                               
executive  director.   He further  explained that  the it  seemed                                                               
appropriate to  leave the chair  at a  range 27, since  the chair                                                               
would have direct  oversight, but to set  the second commissioner                                                               
at a range 24.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:24:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked how  the chair is currently selected                                                               
and if that would be changed with the proposed HB 231.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING responded that the  current chair is selected by the                                                               
governor, but the current bill does not change that process.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES responded that is correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:24:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  said there were no  changes to Section 5.   He then                                                               
directed attention to proposed Section  6, on page 2, lines 15-19                                                               
to  proposed AS  16.43.119(f),  which read  as follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     (f) In case  of a tie vote between  commissioners in an                                                                    
     adjudicatory  proceeding, the  decision of  the hearing                                                                    
     officer  is the  final administrative  decision of  the                                                                    
     commission subject to review  by a superior court under                                                                    
     AS 44.62 (Administrative 22 Procedure Act).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  explained that  the process.   Initially  a hearing                                                               
officer  issues   a  decision  and   if  the  party   seeking  an                                                               
adjudication appeals  the decision  it goes to  the commissioner.                                                               
In the event the two commissioners  have a 1-1 tie, this language                                                               
would  allow  for  the original  hearing  officer's  decision  to                                                               
become the  decision of the  commission.  He clarified  that this                                                               
was due to removing one of the commissioners in statute.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:25:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING stated that there was  no change to Section 8 of the                                                               
proposed CS for HB 231, Version  D.  This section matched Section                                                               
5, related to removing employees from exempt service, he said.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING said that there were  no changes to Section 9 in the                                                               
proposed CS for HB 231, Version D.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:25:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING directed  attention to proposed Section  10, to page                                                               
3, lines  14-16 of Version  D.   He explained that  this language                                                               
was  added to  satisfy  Article  1, Section  15  of Alaska  State                                                               
Constitution,   which    specifies   that   the    state   cannot                                                               
retroactively  reduce  someone's  pay  under  the  impairment  of                                                               
contract's provision.   The current commissioner's  salaries will                                                               
remain at  the current  amount, but  any reappointments  would be                                                               
made at the lower amount.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:26:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked for clarification in  the case that                                                               
the governor appointed  a new chair if the  former chair's salary                                                               
would be reduced.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING answered  that  he would  defer  to the  Commercial                                                               
Fisheries Entry Commission to respond.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:27:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
FATE   PUTMAN,   Commissioner  designee;   Chairman,   Commercial                                                               
Fisheries Entry  Commission (CFEC),  Alaska Department of  Fish &                                                               
Game (ADF&G) introduced himself.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   related  his  understanding   that  the                                                               
current Chair of the CFEC serves at  a range 27.  If the governor                                                               
decided to appoint  a new chair, would the former  chair become a                                                               
range 24.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PUTMAN  related his understanding that  the governor appoints                                                               
the Chair of  the CFEC to serve  a two-year term.   Once the two-                                                               
year term is up, the governor  could appoint a new chair and that                                                               
person would serve at a range 24.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:28:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  further  asked whether  it  because  the                                                               
governor has appointed  someone new as a chair  that creates this                                                               
change or if it was because  that former chair's term was up, and                                                               
the person was being reappointed to a new term.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PUTMAN answered no; that it  was because the two-year term of                                                               
that  chairmanship was  finished,  even though  the person  could                                                               
still  serve  on  the  commission  for a  four-year  term.    The                                                               
chairmen serve  for two years but  could then be designated  as a                                                               
non-chairman once  the chairmanship  has run  out and  the person                                                               
would serve as commissioner, he said.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:29:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  asked  for  additional  clarification  on                                                               
changes for  exempt positions.   He further  asked for  the staff                                                               
level of the CFEC and whether this would affect them.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING responded yes.  He deferred to Mr. Putman.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:30:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  related his understanding that  one of the                                                               
sections [Section 5] would remove  employees from exempt service.                                                               
He asked whether the two  [commissioners] would be exempt and how                                                               
many staff the CFEC has and if they would be exempt.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. PUTMAN responded  that the two commissioners  would remain in                                                               
the exempt  service and  the staff  would be  classified, meaning                                                               
unionized, if HB 231 was adopted.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:30:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN said  an issue raised has  been the backlog                                                               
of lawsuits and  settlements.  This bill would  reduce the number                                                               
of commissioners from  three to two.  He asked  whether there was                                                               
there a proposal or other remedy to rectify this issue.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PUTMAN stated  that it  is the  intent of  the chairman  and                                                               
staff  to  resolve  the  outstanding  cases  at  the  CFEC.    He                                                               
estimated the backlog  at 13 cases pending from  25-35 years ago.                                                               
He  emphasized  his intent  to  review  and resolve  these  cases                                                               
through settlement  with the potential  appellees.   He explained                                                               
that when the cases are pending  each of the appellees receive an                                                               
interim-use permit, which  allows them to fish  until their cases                                                               
are resolved.   He  reported that two  cases have  been resolved.                                                               
He  reiterated  his intent  to  resolve  the remaining  13  cases                                                               
within the next year or two.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:32:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN raised the  matter of authority over staff.                                                               
He asked  whether the  bill changes the  authority of  the chair.                                                               
He asked for further clarification  on how staff would be managed                                                               
and the structure of the CFEC as it falls under the ADF&G.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PUTMAN  stated  that  when employees  move  from  exempt  to                                                               
classified  status, they  are  protected  through the  collective                                                               
bargaining agreement; however, exempt  employees can be hired and                                                               
fired at  will.  Classified  employees are subject to  a process,                                                               
including progressive  discipline before they can  be terminated.                                                               
He stated that the chairman  will serve as the executive director                                                               
and   he/she  would   make   determinations   about  hiring   and                                                               
recommendations for firing of underperforming staff.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:33:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING said he had finished with the changes.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:33:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  referred to an earlier  comment on a 1-1  tie.  She                                                               
pointed out  that there was an  appeal process and the  party can                                                               
appeal to the superior court.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:34:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONTALBO gave  a section-by-section analysis of HB  231.  She                                                               
directed attention  to Section 1,  which would reduce  the number                                                               
of  commissioners appointed  to  the  Commercial Fisheries  Entry                                                               
Commission (CFEC) from three to two, she said.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.   MONTALBO   directed  attention   to   Section   2,  to   AS                                                               
16.43.030(c),  which   would  allow  a  single   commissioner  to                                                               
exercise the powers  and duties of the commission,  when there is                                                               
a vacancy on the commission.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONTALBO directed attention to  Section 3, which will need to                                                               
be  amended, as  Mr. Gruening  previously mentioned  but for  now                                                               
this  change addresses  the need  to  establish a  quorum of  one                                                               
commissioner.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONTALBO directed  attention to Section 4,  which would amend                                                               
AS  16.43.060, which  would provide  that the  member serving  as                                                               
chair will be paid a step in Range  27.  It would also adjust the                                                               
salary range from 27 to 24 for the other commissioner.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:35:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONTALBO directed  attention to Section 5,  which would amend                                                               
AS 16.43.080(a),  by removing language  placing employees  of the                                                               
commission in the exempt service.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONTALBO  directed attention to  Section 6, which adds  a new                                                               
subsection  (f) to  AS 16.43.110,  which would  provide that  tie                                                               
votes  between  commissioners  will  be settled  by  the  hearing                                                               
officer.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONTALBO directed  attention to Section 7,  which would amend                                                               
AS  16.43.960(d) to  allow  for cause  hearings  to be  conducted                                                               
before one commissioner and a hearing officer.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:35:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONTALBO  directed attention to  Section 8, which  repeals AS                                                               
39.25.110(11)(D).    She  referred  to  the  statute  text  being                                                               
repealed under  subparagraph (D) of AS  39.25.110(11), which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 39.25.110. Exempt service. Unless otherwise                                                                           
     provided by law, the following positions constitute                                                                        
     the exempt service and are exempt from the provisions                                                                      
     of this chapter and the rules adopted under it:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     (11) the officers and employees of the following                                                                           
     boards, commissions, and authorities:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          (A) [Repealed, Sec. 13 ch 43 SLA 1994];                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          (B) Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation;                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          (C) Alaska Industrial Development and Export                                                                          
          Authority;                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          (D) Alaska Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission;                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
       (E) Alaska Commission on Postsecondary Education;                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          (F) Alaska Aerospace Corporation;                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          (G) [Repealed, Sec. 23 ch 11 SLA 2013].                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONTALBO  mentioned that change goes  along with transferring                                                               
employees from exempt service to classified service.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:36:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONTALBO  directed attention  to Section  9, which  would add                                                               
transition   language  to   uncodified   law,  which   stipulates                                                               
commission  staff   members  will  be  appointed   to  classified                                                               
services upon  the bill's effective  date; and if  the classified                                                               
position has  a lower rate of  pay, a staff member's  salary will                                                               
be held  at the rate received  in exempt service until  such time                                                               
as the classified rate meets it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONTALBO directed  attention to  Section 10,  which adds  an                                                               
applicability clause  to uncodified  law to stablish  that salary                                                               
changes  outlined  in  Section  4  of this  bill  will  apply  to                                                               
commissioners appointed after the bill's effective date.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONTALBO  directed attention  to  Section  [11], which  sets                                                               
effective date as immediate.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:37:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON asked if there  was any scenario in which a                                                               
hearing officer could act as a tie breaker.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING offered  his belief  that the  answer was  no.   He                                                               
described  the current  process,  such that  the hearing  officer                                                               
makes an  initial review, issues  a decision, which  is forwarded                                                               
to the  [CFEC] commissioners who  make an adjudication.   He said                                                               
there was  not any process in  which the hearing officer  casts a                                                               
final vote in a tiebreaker.   He explained at that point it would                                                               
be decided by the superior court.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:38:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  offered his  belief that it  would violate                                                               
the chain of due process, if that were to occur.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:38:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   said  he  noticed  that   it  has  been                                                               
customary  for courts  and even  this  committee to  have an  odd                                                               
number of  members to  resolve the  potential of  tie votes.   He                                                               
asked why not just go to one commissioner.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  responded that only  having one  commissioner would                                                               
result in  only one point of  view, which could lead  to room for                                                               
abuse.   He said that  there was a  certain value to  having more                                                               
than one  commissioner since the second  commissioner could raise                                                               
a  different point  of  view.   He characterized  it  as being  a                                                               
little  "heavy  handed" to  have  only  one commissioner  set  in                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:39:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  opened public testimony  on HB 231 and  after first                                                               
determining no one wished to  testify, closed public testimony on                                                               
HB 231.  She asked to set HB 231 aside.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[HB 231 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        HB 188-COMM. FISH. ENTRY PERMITS; LOANS; TRUSTS                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
11:39:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES announced  that final  order of  business would  be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 188, "An  Act relating to commercial fishing entry                                                               
permits;  establishing regional  fisheries  trusts and  fisheries                                                               
trust regions; relating to commercial  fishing entry permits held                                                               
and leased by a regional  fisheries trust; relating to the duties                                                               
of  the  Alaska Commercial  Fisheries  Entry  Commission and  the                                                               
Department of Commerce, Community,  and Economic Development; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:40:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS,  speaking as  prime sponsor  of HB                                                               
188, pointed  out a proposed  committee substitute  (CS) [Version                                                               
L]  that  was  conceptually  discussed at  a  previous  committee                                                               
hearing on 2/22/18 incorporates  changes for issues raised during                                                               
committee hearings.   He pointed out letters from  the Bering Sea                                                               
Fishing  Corporation and  Afognak Corporation  in support  of the                                                               
bill,  and  one from  BBFA.    He  said  his staff  would  answer                                                               
specific questions.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:41:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  moved  to   adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB   188,  labeled  30-LS0389\L,  Bullard,                                                               
2/22/18  as the  working  document.   There  being no  objection,                                                               
Version L was before the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:41:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  expressed  his gratitude  to  the                                                               
Legislative Legal  and Research Services attorneys  for all their                                                               
work  and for  working through  these revisions  in a  timely and                                                               
helpful manner.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:42:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REID MAGDANZ, Staff,  Representative Kreiss-Tomkins, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  on behalf  of the  sponsor, Representative  Kreiss-                                                               
Tomkins, offered to  explain changes between the prior  CS for HB                                                               
188  as it  was  at the  start of  the  2018 legislative  session                                                               
[Version M] to the proposed CS for  HB 188, Version L.  He stated                                                               
that  he  would  quickly  review these  changes  but  offered  to                                                               
provide more detail if needed.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:42:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ indicated he would  be working from a document titled                                                               
"Summary of Changes, ver U   ver  L | HB 188   Regional Fisheries                                                               
Trusts."   He directed attention  to the heading  after paragraph                                                               
one, titled  "ver M  - Ver L."   The first  change was  to remove                                                               
three  references  to  Alaskans   entering  fisheries  or  Alaska                                                               
communities to improve the constitutionality of the bill.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ stated  that [Version L] would add  Section 29, which                                                               
arose  from   committee  discussions  for   emergency  transfers.                                                               
Section 29 of  Version L would provide that  a regional fisheries                                                               
trust must approve the emergency  transfer of any permit that has                                                               
been  temporarily  transferred  from  the  fisheries  trust.  The                                                               
emergency   transferee  must   also   be   qualified  under   [AS                                                               
16.44.080],  the  provisions   covering  the  original  temporary                                                               
transferee.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ said the next changes  begin on page 13, lines 18-20,                                                               
to  Section 30,  and  Section 32  [on page  15,  lines 21-26,  to                                                               
proposed  AS  16.43.850  subsections  (c) and  (d),  which  would                                                               
reword the language  to conform with the addition  of Section 35.                                                               
He directed  attention to proposed  Section 35  [AS 16.43.844(d)]                                                               
on  page  16   [lines  29-28].    He  explained   that  the  CFEC                                                               
commissioners  flagged some  changes to  the prior  version which                                                               
could have  affected how  demerit points  are assessed  to people                                                               
who are emergency transferees.   The addition of Section 25 would                                                               
ensure  that  the status  quo  remains  the same  for  individual                                                               
permit  holders  and  that  the  same  rules  would  apply  to  a                                                               
temporary transferee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:44:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ directed attention to  proposed Section 36, which was                                                               
amended to clarify the original intention.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAGDANZ  directed  attention  to page  19,  lines  6-15,  to                                                               
proposed  Section  39,  AS  16.43.960(l).   He  stated  that  the                                                               
previous version  did not reflect  the original policy  intent in                                                               
terms of when  a temporary transfer could be revoked  in cases in                                                               
which   the  temporary   transferee's  fishing   privileges  were                                                               
suspended.  These changes remedied that issue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:45:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAGDANZ  identified the  next  two  changes to  proposed  AS                                                               
16.44.010(b)(2) and  (3) [Section  41], which  were in  line with                                                               
the  first  change  mentioned,  to  remove  references  to  state                                                               
residents because [Version L] would  allow the temporary transfer                                                               
to  be made  to anyone.   This  change deletes  a provision  that                                                               
would  allow the  Department of  Commerce,  Community &  Economic                                                               
Development (DCCED)  to audit fisheries trusts  and that function                                                               
and responsibility  would be with the  Legislative Audit Division                                                               
[Legislative  Agencies  and  Offices].   He  explained  that  the                                                               
sponsor  continues  to work  with  the  DCCED on  the  regulatory                                                               
authority  in  the  bill.   As  those  discussions  are  ongoing,                                                               
Version L, would eliminate one  section that referred to specific                                                               
regulatory authority because it caused some confusion, he said.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAGDANZ  said   the  next  change  would   add  proposed  AS                                                               
16.44.050(d)  to  allow  a  fisheries  trust  board  to  prohibit                                                               
certain individuals  from receiving temporary transfers  from the                                                               
fisheries  trust.    Version  L  would  give  a  fisheries  trust                                                               
authority  to choose  to prohibit  temporary transfers  to anyone                                                               
who already  holds a limited  entry permit in another  fishery or                                                               
who has had their fishing privileges suspended by CFEC.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ stated the next  change [to proposed AS 16.44.060(b)]                                                               
would clarify that only one  fisheries trust was eligible to hold                                                               
any given  type of limited-entry  permit.  He explained  that was                                                               
always the  sponsor's intention;  however, the prior  version was                                                               
not  totally clear  on that  matter.   This  language also  would                                                               
allow fisheries trusts  more flexibility in the  types of permits                                                               
they  acquire;  he  directed  attention to  the  language  in  AS                                                               
16.44.060(c).                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:47:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAGDANZ   said  the   next  few   changes  to   proposed  AS                                                               
16.44.060(d)  and  (e)  were  non-substantive.    The  change  to                                                               
proposed  AS   16.44.070(b)  referred  to  an   issue  raised  by                                                               
Representative  Eastman at  the previous  hearing, which  is that                                                               
the  six-year  cap is  a  lifetime  cap and  was  not  a cap  per                                                               
fishery.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ stated  that the change to proposed  AS 16.44.080 [on                                                               
page 27,  lines 1-23 of  Version L]  was in response  to feedback                                                               
from fishermen and  gives the fisheries trust  greater ability to                                                               
ensure that  anyone bidding on a  permit would be able  to safely                                                               
and successfully participate in the fishery.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:47:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ stated  that the change to proposed  Section 56 [page                                                               
31,  beginning on  line 23  of Version  L] simply  clarifies that                                                               
fishery trust regions  should encompass both land  and water area                                                               
in the  state.  The change  to proposed Section 56,  (a)(1) would                                                               
change the date the department  should use when drawing fisheries                                                               
trust  boundaries, he  said.   The  last change  was to  proposed                                                               
Section 56, (b)(2)  which states that all  fisheries trusts shall                                                               
have at least  five communities, he said.  He  explained that the                                                               
regional  structure  does  not  work  very  well  if  the  region                                                               
consists of only one or two communities.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:48:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  asked  whether  he  could  address  what                                                               
happens when someone applies to multiple fisheries.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ related  his understanding that if  an individual was                                                               
selected  as a  temporary transferee  by a  fisheries trust,  the                                                               
person could not  just back out of it  at-will; therefore, anyone                                                               
should be careful before applying to multiple trusts.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:49:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:50:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR, referring  to a  letter of  opposition [not                                                               
specifically   identified],  asked   whether   the  sponsor   had                                                               
considered any of the ideas expressed.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ responded  that the idea described at the  end of the                                                               
letter is  complicated.   He was  unsure if  the sponsor  has had                                                               
time to fully evaluate if the  concerns had merit or value in the                                                               
specific recommendations.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:51:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES opened public testimony on HB 188.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:51:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BEN  STEVENS, Director,  Hunting and  Fishing Task  Force, Tanana                                                               
Chiefs Conference (TCC),  said the TCC was  a regional non-profit                                                               
and tribal  consortium for  the 42  villages of  Interior Alaska.                                                               
He  also  served on  the  advisory  panel  to the  North  Pacific                                                               
Fishery Management  Council (NPFMC);  however, his  comments were                                                               
limited to his  role as director.  The  fishing industry provides                                                               
the most viable  opportunities for fishermen to earn  a living in                                                               
communities  along   Alaska's  coastline.    It   has  been  well                                                               
substantiated that  there has been  a huge decline in  the number                                                               
of limited entry  permits held by local fishermen.   This decline                                                               
represents lost  jobs, lost  opportunities and  economic distress                                                               
for fishermen, their families, and the communities.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEVENS  said  that the  regional  fisheries  trust  program                                                               
envisioned in HB 188 would  complement efforts already being made                                                               
in the western coastal communities of  the Bering Sea, as well as                                                               
fisheries  in  the  communities  in  the Gulf  of  Alaska.    The                                                               
regional  fisheries trust  shows significant  promise to  restore                                                               
opportunities  to those  fishermen  who  need it  the  most.   He                                                               
stated  that  rural communities  stand  to  benefit greatly  from                                                               
retention  and restoration  of  access to  those  fisheries.   He                                                               
offered  TCC support  for HB  188  to make  this a  reality.   He                                                               
characterized HB 188  as a "no nonsense" bill.   He urged members                                                               
to move  HB 188 out of  committee and the legislature  as soon as                                                               
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:54:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
NICOLE  BORROMEO,  Executive  Vice  President;  General  Counsel,                                                               
Alaska Federation of  Natives (AFN), asked to  testify in support                                                               
of HB 188.  The AFN  believes in thriving economic and culturally                                                               
vibrant communities  in all Alaska,  especially in  rural coastal                                                               
communities of Alaska, she said.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BORROMEO stated  that when the full board met  on February 13                                                               
there was adamant support for  this bill because the AFN believes                                                               
it is essential  to bringing back sustainable  economies in rural                                                               
coastal  communities.     These  fisheries  trust   have  a  real                                                               
potential  for making  a difference  in these  communities.   She                                                               
concluded by  stating that  AFN was firmly  behind this  bill and                                                               
she urged members to move it out of committee today.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:56:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES closed public testimony on HB 188.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:56:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES said that the  committee has held numerous hearings.                                                               
She  offered her  belief the  bill needed  some additional  work;                                                               
however, it was time to move  it forward.  She directed attention                                                               
to the two  fiscal notes in members' packets,  a zero-fiscal note                                                               
from  the  Division  of  Banking   &  Securities,  Department  of                                                               
Commerce, Community, & Economic  Development (DCCED).  The fiscal                                                               
note from the  Division of Economic Development  estimated a cost                                                               
to  the state  of approximately  $476,200 in  the first  year and                                                               
$400,000 in  subsequent years; however,  these fiscal  notes have                                                               
not been  updated to  proposed committee  substitute (CS)  for HB                                                               
231, Version L.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:57:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON moved  to  report  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 188,  labeled 30-LS0389\L [Version L], out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection,  CSHB                                                               
188(FSH)  was  reported  from  the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                               
Fisheries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:58:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Fisheries meeting  was adjourned  at 11:58                                                               
a.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CSHB 231 Additional Document CFEC Adjudications Graph 2014.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 231
CSHB 231 Additional Document CFEC Adjudications Table 2014.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 231
CSHB 231 Explanation of Changes.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 231
CSHB 231 Fiscal Note DFG.PDF HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 231
CSHB 231 Sectional Analysis.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 231
CSHB 231 Supporting Document NPFA.PDF HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 231
CSHB 231 Supporting Document USAG.PDF HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 231
CSHB 231 Transmittal Letter.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 231
CSHB 231(FSH) ver D.PDF HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 231
HB 386 Bill Ver A 2.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 386
HB 386 Power Point 2.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 386
HB 386 Sectional Analysis 2.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 386
HB 386 Sponsor Statement 02.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 386
HB 386 Support Document - Article ADn Abandoned vessels litter 02.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 386
HB 386 Support Document - Article ADN Boat carrying diesel fuel.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 386
HB 386 Support Document - Article AED Unalaska pays thousands 2.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HB 386
HB 386 Support Document - Article KTOO Juneau mulls anchoring.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Support Document - Coming flood of abandoned 2.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Support Document -Report McDowell Group, Inc 2.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Support Letter - Homer 2.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Support Document -Report State of Alaska Leg & Adm Review 2.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Support Letter - Juneau 2.23.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB188 Draft Proposed Blank CS ver L 2.22.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB188 Fiscal Note DCCED.BS.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB188 Fiscal Note DDCED.ED.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB188 Sectional Analysis ver L 2.22.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB188 Summary of Changes ver U-ver L 2.22.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB188 Supporting Document BSFA 2.18.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB188 Supporting Document-Afognak Corporation Letter 2.22.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB260 Sponsor Statement 1.25.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB260 Fiscal Note-DFG- 2.16.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB260 Residential Hunters AK Letter of Support HB 260.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB260 ver A 1.25.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 272 Presentation 2.9.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HRES 3/12/2018 1:00:00 PM
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HB272 Additional Document-Map.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB272 Fiscal Note-DFG.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB272 Fiscal Note-DNR.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB272 Opposing Documents(Combined) Ahtna, AMA, CVCC.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB272 Sectional Analysis ver U 1.22.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB272 Sponsor Statement 1.22.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HRES 3/7/2018 1:00:00 PM
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HB272 Supporting Documents (Combined 49).pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
HRES 3/7/2018 1:00:00 PM
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HB272 ver U 1.22.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB272-support letters Palin and Murkowski.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Fiscal Note DOA 02.27.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Fiscal Note DNR 02.27.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Fiscal Note DEC 02.27.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Support Letter - Dillingham 02.27.18.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Support Letter - Cordova.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 386 Support Letter - Seward.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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HB 188 Opposing Document BBFA.pdf HFSH 2/27/2018 10:00:00 AM
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