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03/06/2024 08:30 AM House FINANCE

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08:36:46 AM Start
08:38:28 AM Overview: Department of Natural Resources
09:58:14 AM Adjourn
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Heard & Held
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Natural Resources
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 6, 2024                                                                                            
                         8:36 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:36:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
to order at 8:36 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
John Boyle,  Commissioner, Department of  Natural Resources;                                                                    
Theresa Cross, Administrative  Services Director, Department                                                                    
of  Natural Resources;  Brent Goodrum,  Deputy Commissioner,                                                                    
Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ricky Gease, Director, Division of Parks and Outdoor                                                                            
Recreation, Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 268    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP; AM                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          HB 268 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 270    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 268 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 268                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making capital  appropriations; making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations; making  reappropriations;                                                                    
     making  appropriations  under   art.  IX,  sec.  17(c),                                                                    
     Constitution  of   the  State   of  Alaska,   from  the                                                                    
     constitutional budget  reserve fund; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 270                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:38:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BOYLE,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF  NATURAL RESOURCES,                                                                    
introduced  the   PowerPoint  presentation   "Department  of                                                                    
Natural  Resources  Budget  Overview" dated  March  6,  2024                                                                    
(copy on  file). He began on  slide 2 and shared  a memorial                                                                    
for  three members  of the  Department of  Natural Resources                                                                    
(DNR)  who had  died in  the line  of duty  in a  helicopter                                                                    
crash. The three individuals who  had died were all involved                                                                    
in  performing  hydrological  surveying work  on  the  North                                                                    
Slope. The  department was profoundly  impacted by  the loss                                                                    
and  it had  responded  by ensuring  that  the right  safety                                                                    
procedures were in place to protect its employees.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle   continued  to   slide  3   and  went   over  an                                                                    
organizational  chart for  DNR leadership.  He thought  that                                                                    
there was  a special culture  within DNR because  the people                                                                    
who worked  for the department  wanted to make  a difference                                                                    
by maximizing  and conserving the state's  resources for the                                                                    
benefit  of  its  people.  He  remarked  that  DNR  was  the                                                                    
"breadwinner"  for all  of the  other state  departments and                                                                    
brought in the major share  of revenue that the state relied                                                                    
upon to  provide services to  its citizens. The work  of DNR                                                                    
had  significant  impacts on  the  state  and would  benefit                                                                    
future  generations of  Alaska. He  relayed that  two deputy                                                                    
commissioners  reported  to  him:  Brent  Goodrum  and  John                                                                    
Crowther.  Each deputy  commissioner was  responsible for  a                                                                    
number  of  separate  divisions within  the  department.  He                                                                    
shared that  DNR was working on  new initiatives surrounding                                                                    
agriculture, mariculture, and food security.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:43:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  continued on slide  3 and offered  information on                                                                    
some  of  the divisions  within  DNR.  He relayed  that  the                                                                    
Division of  Mining, Land, and Water  (DMLW) was responsible                                                                    
for managing the  state's lands and leases.  He thought that                                                                    
the Division of  Forestry and Fire Protection  (DFFP) was an                                                                    
exciting  part  of  DNR  and   an  important  industry.  The                                                                    
department would  continue to look  for ways to  improve and                                                                    
build upon the forestry sector  as well as protect the state                                                                    
from wildfires.  He argued  that Alaska  had the  best state                                                                    
park portfolio of any state,  which was partially due to the                                                                    
work done  by the Division  of Parks and  Outdoor Recreation                                                                    
(DPOR).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle continued  that the Division of Oil  and Gas (DOG)                                                                    
was  experiencing changes  as activity  on  the North  Slope                                                                    
increased. He  relayed that the  Division of  Geological and                                                                    
Geophysical  Surveys  (DGGS)  was led  by  Director  Melanie                                                                    
Werdon,  who was  a longtime  DNR employee.  He was  pleased                                                                    
when Ms. Werdon  agreed to serve as director.  He noted that                                                                    
DGGS informed  the science that helped  the state understand                                                                    
its resources,  particularly as it  related to oil  and gas.                                                                    
The Office  of Project Management and  Permitting (OPMP) was                                                                    
tasked with  permitting large projects  of all types  and it                                                                    
would play  a critical  role in helping  communities develop                                                                    
broadband  infrastructure. He  turned the  presentation over                                                                    
to his colleague.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:48:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THERESA CROSS, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF NATURAL  RESOURCES, continued on  slide 4 and  offered an                                                                    
overview of DNR's  FY 25 operating budget. The  chart on the                                                                    
slide represented the  FY 23 actuals, followed by  the FY 24                                                                    
management plan,  followed by the FY  25 governor's proposed                                                                    
amended budget.  The most significant  change from FY  24 to                                                                    
FY 25  was in the  unrestricted general fund  (UGF) category                                                                    
with an  increase of approximately $6.8  million. The second                                                                    
biggest  change   was  an  increase   of  $3.5   million  in                                                                    
designated general  funds (DGF). She explained  that the UGF                                                                    
increase was largely represented  by four items within DFFP,                                                                    
one   item   within   DGGS,   and   department-wide   salary                                                                    
adjustments.  The DGF  increase  was primarily  due to  fund                                                                    
changes  and authority  increments  within DOG  and DMLW  as                                                                    
well as  department-wide salary adjustments. The  overall FY                                                                    
25 budget increased  by 5.9 percent from FY  24. She relayed                                                                    
that  more details  would be  provided on  each division  on                                                                    
upcoming slides.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross  highlighted that there  was an increase  of eight                                                                    
positions  from the  FY  24  management plan  to  the FY  25                                                                    
governor's  proposed  amended  budget  across  all  position                                                                    
types. She  noted that more information  about new positions                                                                    
would be provided on each  division slide. The pie charts on                                                                    
the bottom of the  slide represented a high-level comparison                                                                    
of the four  fund categories by total and  percentage of the                                                                    
total operating budget. There were  minor changes from FY 24                                                                    
to FY 25.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross  continued to slide 5  and shared that DNR  had 20                                                                    
different  funding sources,  all  listed on  the slide.  The                                                                    
general  fund   included  both  UGF  and   DGF  and  totaled                                                                    
approximately  $128  million. She  noted  that  UGF and  DGF                                                                    
accounted  for   61  percent   of  the   department's  total                                                                    
operating budget.  Most of the general  fund program receipt                                                                    
revenue was  from park fees, leases,  material sales, mining                                                                    
leases, recording fees, and seismic  data sales. Most of the                                                                    
"other"  category  was  made   up  of  statutory  designated                                                                    
program receipts, interagency  receipts, capital improvement                                                                    
projects  (CIP), the  Alaska Mental  Health Trust  Authority                                                                    
(AMHTA), and  Permanent Fund  Dividend (PFD)  receipts. Over                                                                    
the past ten  years, there was an average of  $22 in revenue                                                                    
for every general fund dollar appropriated to DNR.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:53:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross  explained  that  in  the  next  section  of  the                                                                    
presentation, she would  provide a detailed look  at each of                                                                    
the divisions  within DNR. She  began on slide 6  with DFFP.                                                                    
The  division's  UGF  increase   was  its  most  significant                                                                    
adjustment  at just  under $5  million.  The remaining  fund                                                                    
category  increases were  due to  bargain salary  and health                                                                    
insurance adjustments. The total  DFFP budget increased by 7                                                                    
percent  and the  number of  positions  within the  division                                                                    
remained  the  same.  The  FY  25  proposed  budget  changes                                                                    
included $1.8 million in UGF  for mission critical incentive                                                                    
pay  to invest  in  the state's  wildlife firefighters.  The                                                                    
increment  would increase  firefighters' compensation  by 32                                                                    
percent. The  incentive pay  increase would  be accomplished                                                                    
by  establishing  a  letter of  agreement,  which  would  be                                                                    
eventually followed by a permanent  solution once the salary                                                                    
study was complete. Incentive pay  played a critical role in                                                                    
the state's  ability to maintain firefighter  employment and                                                                    
to provide adequate and timely  responses to wildlife fires.                                                                    
Firefighter vacancies continued  to increase and recruitment                                                                    
was   difficult  because   Alaska's  firefighters   received                                                                    
compensation  that was  approximately 46  percent less  than                                                                    
that  of  firefighters  in  other  states.  The  state  lost                                                                    
approximately  $11,000  of  its  investment  in  specialized                                                                    
training when experienced  firefighters transferred to other                                                                    
agencies. The increment would also  assist in reducing costs                                                                    
related to importing firefighters from other states.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross continued  on the second budget  request for DFFP,                                                                    
which was  $1.5 million  in UGF for  the acquisition  of two                                                                    
new  facility   leases  for   warehouse  storage   and  crew                                                                    
purposes.  The  Fairbanks  warehouse   was  in  a  state  of                                                                    
disrepair  and could  no longer  be  safely maintained.  The                                                                    
southcentral  crew  facility  lease  was set  to  expire  in                                                                    
October  of 2024  and  needed an  update.  The division  had                                                                    
worked  closely with  the Department  of Transportation  and                                                                    
Public  Facilities  (DOT) to  gain  the  $1.5 million  lease                                                                    
estimate for  both facilities and it  had formerly requested                                                                    
interest from  local contractors  via the  state procurement                                                                    
process.  The facility  leases  were  critical in  providing                                                                    
public  safety,  protecting   the  state's  investments  and                                                                    
infrastructure, and reducing fire suppression costs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross  continued to the  third budget request  for DFFP,                                                                    
which  was  $900,000 in  UGF  to  fully fund  foresters  and                                                                    
prioritize forestry  road infrastructure. The  funding would                                                                    
decrease the  division's reliance  on timber  sales receipts                                                                    
that partially funded nine  foresters and support positions.                                                                    
Realigning the  funding and transferring $879,000  in timber                                                                    
receipts to the  services line item would  allow for crucial                                                                    
bridge replacements, create road  access for timber, provide                                                                    
access to  lands and resources, reduce  costs to individuals                                                                    
and  businesses,  and  create an  environment  for  economic                                                                    
growth.  Initial  constructure  projects  would  occur  near                                                                    
Fairbanks,   Haines,    Tanana   Valley,    southeast,   and                                                                    
southcentral  regions  of  the  state.  The  division  would                                                                    
prepare a list of  each construction maintenance project and                                                                    
each project would  have a specific scope  of work, timeline                                                                    
for completion,  and clearly  identified costs.  There would                                                                    
be status  updates provided  on the projects  at the  end of                                                                    
each fiscal year.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:57:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan   noted  that   there  was   a  large                                                                    
supplemental for DFFP which was  not reflected on the slide.                                                                    
She asked for  the details of the  supplemental for forestry                                                                    
and fire  protection. She  recalled that  it was  around $61                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross responded  that the  $61 million  figure was  the                                                                    
fire  declaration that  the state  received in  the fall  of                                                                    
2023.  There were  three  additional  supplementals: one  to                                                                    
close out  the fire season  for $26 million, one  for spring                                                                    
fire prepositioning  costs, and  $1.4 million  for increased                                                                    
aviation costs.  The supplemental  for the  division totaled                                                                    
approximately $94 million including the fire declaration.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan thought  that it  was important  that                                                                    
the  budget  reflected what  had  actually  been spent.  She                                                                    
thought the  exclusion of the  spending in  the presentation                                                                    
made it  appear that  it never happened.  She did  not doubt                                                                    
that the  $94 million  needed to be  spent, but  she thought                                                                    
that the  money needed to  be accounted for and  the details                                                                    
needed  to  be  communicated  to the  legislature.  She  was                                                                    
frustrated that the budget presentation  did not reflect the                                                                    
entire picture.  There was always  a large  supplemental and                                                                    
the  lack  of  information  made  the  budget  difficult  to                                                                    
balance.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk commented  that  it  was important  to                                                                    
have  a  proactive  forestry industry  to  help  manage  the                                                                    
forests.  He would  rather  see the  money  invested in  the                                                                    
forestry  industry than  spent on  fighting fires.  He asked                                                                    
how the expedited timber bill [HB 104] would help.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  responded that he  believed HB 104  would provide                                                                    
DNR  with  more flexible  tools  to  proactively respond  to                                                                    
incidents like  insect infestation. He argued  that it would                                                                    
be  better to  thin the  forest  before it  was infested  in                                                                    
order to contain the problem  before it worsened. He thought                                                                    
more  flexible  tools  would help  decrease  the  amount  of                                                                    
wildfires. Another  key element  the department  was focused                                                                    
on  was making  it  easier for  Alaskans  to harvest  spruce                                                                    
trees  and  the  department  appreciated  the  legislature's                                                                    
support in  its effort.  Much of  the provisions  were built                                                                    
around  the  historic  timber  industry,  which  was  geared                                                                    
towards the southeast region of  the state. He was uncertain                                                                    
whether  the  historic approach  was  the  best approach  as                                                                    
there were  a myriad  of opportunities  across the  state to                                                                    
manage the forests in different ways.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  relayed that  the department had  an idea  of how                                                                    
many acres burned  each year and a rough  estimate of annual                                                                    
wildfire  costs  based  on the  ten-year  average;  however,                                                                    
there was  significant variability every year.  For example,                                                                    
which  entity was  responsible for  attacking the  wildfires                                                                    
depended  upon  which  area  of   the  state  in  which  the                                                                    
wildfires occurred. Sometimes the  onus for heading wildfire                                                                    
efforts fell on  the state and other times the  onus fell on                                                                    
the   federal  government.   He  understood   Representative                                                                    
Hannan's frustration  and thought it was  important that the                                                                    
department examined  how to best manage  the state's forests                                                                    
and how  to be  more proactive  in preventing  wildfires. He                                                                    
thought  carbon   offset  projects   could  be   helpful  by                                                                    
incentivizing  enhanced  forest management  techniques.  The                                                                    
department was  looking at a  number of options for  how the                                                                    
state could  be more  proactive. He stressed  the importance                                                                    
of  recruiting and  retaining local  firefighters as  hiring                                                                    
firefighters  from other  states was  difficult and  costly.                                                                    
The  climate  was changing  and  the  approach to  wildfires                                                                    
needed to change as well.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:05:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk  remarked   that  the  state's  timber                                                                    
industry did not  have a large profit margin.  He noted that                                                                    
timber was  a less  valuable product when  the state  let it                                                                    
burn. He  argued that  either the  state could  cut, harvest                                                                    
it, and  use the timber,  or watch it  burn up in  smoke. He                                                                    
commended the  department on its proactivity  and support of                                                                    
the  timber  industry,  which could  help  build  homes  and                                                                    
create jobs.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson asked  if the  department could  compile a                                                                    
report  breaking down  the  ways in  which  the funding  was                                                                    
allocated  in the  supplementals.  She  thought utilizing  a                                                                    
supplemental  made  sense  because  the  department's  costs                                                                    
varied greatly  and were often unpredictable.  She suggested                                                                    
that a short  overview report would help  the committee stay                                                                    
informed and help it make better decisions going forward.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:08:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  remarked  that  he  agreed  with  the                                                                    
comments from  Representative Cronk about needing  to better                                                                    
manage the  state's timber and  prevent wildfires.  He noted                                                                    
that the current budget request  was significantly less than                                                                    
historical averages which made it  hard for the committee to                                                                    
plan its  spending in  other areas when  it was  likely that                                                                    
there would be  a significant supplemental. He  asked if the                                                                    
department would  be supportive of  the idea of  including a                                                                    
more realistic number in the budget.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle responded that the  department would be supportive                                                                    
of the idea.  He noted that Representative  Ortiz was asking                                                                    
many of the same questions  that DNR was asking itself, such                                                                    
as how the department could  better anticipate its costs. He                                                                    
would be happy  to put together the report  requested by Co-                                                                    
Chair Johnson. There were significant  cost drivers, such as                                                                    
hiring  fire   suppression  crews  from  other   states.  He                                                                    
suggested  that  asking  the   department  to  predict  fire                                                                    
suppression  costs was  like asking  someone to  predict the                                                                    
stock market. In 2023, wildfires  were minimal through July,                                                                    
but  picked  up  quickly  in  August.  Ensuring  that  roads                                                                    
remained operational during wildfires  and that the military                                                                    
facilities  were protected  was important.  He was  happy to                                                                    
work with the  committee and provide as  much information as                                                                    
possible,   but  significant   historic  data   was  already                                                                    
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe asked  Ms. Cross  for clarification                                                                    
on  the $900,000  increment. She  understood that  money was                                                                    
withdrawn  taken from  personal services  to fund  a capital                                                                    
request and the withdrawn funds  would be replaced with UGF.                                                                    
She asked if her understanding was correct.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:13:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross  responded  that the  majority  of  timber  sales                                                                    
receipts were currently being used  to pay for nine personal                                                                    
services positions. The cost  was hindering the department's                                                                    
ability  to  fund  crucial bridge  and  road  projects.  The                                                                    
$900,000 increment  would allow  the department  to continue                                                                    
to  build  the  timber  industry  by  paying  for  the  nine                                                                    
positions  with  UGF. There  would  then  be a  transfer  of                                                                    
timber sales  receipts to perform the  necessary maintenance                                                                    
and construction work.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe  asked   whether  the   issue  was                                                                    
temporary or would the increment be included in the base.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross responded that the  bridge and road projects would                                                                    
be  funded  with  the timber  sales  receipts  and  personal                                                                    
services positions would be funded  with UGF. The department                                                                    
was open  to moving some of  the timber sales receipts  to a                                                                    
capital appropriation in the future.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  asked how much of  the $1.8 million                                                                    
increment was going  towards incentive pay. She  asked for a                                                                    
breakdown  of   how  much  money   was  going   directly  to                                                                    
firefighters.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross responded that the  supplementals requested for FY                                                                    
24 were  not for incentive  pay, but  to pay for  costs that                                                                    
had  been  incurred over  the  past  fire season.  The  $1.8                                                                    
million increment in  FY 25 would be  entirely for incentive                                                                    
pay.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  noted that the  committee had a  hard stop                                                                    
at 10:00 a.m. and she  suggested that Ms. Cross continue the                                                                    
presentation to allow for time for more questions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:16:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross  relayed  that  the last  item  within  DFFP  was                                                                    
$84,000  for  annual  maintenance on  heavy  equipment.  She                                                                    
explained that  regular maintenance  on the  equipment would                                                                    
ensure the safety  of Alaskans. The funding  would allow the                                                                    
division to  complete annual maintenance on  nine new pieces                                                                    
of  equipment through  DOT's State  Equipment Fleet  Program                                                                    
(SEFP).  The division  had been  coordinating with  the SEFP                                                                    
team to  order and  receive new  heavy equipment  and annual                                                                    
maintenance  was required  in order  to protect  the initial                                                                    
investment and  maximize the lifespan of  the equipment. The                                                                    
new  equipment would  help maintain  400  miles of  existing                                                                    
logging  roads   in  the  interior  region   of  the  state,                                                                    
facilitate  projects  in  the  southcentral  region  of  the                                                                    
state, and  create new  roads to  create access  to forests.                                                                    
The  increment  would  also  enable  tree  planting,  timber                                                                    
harvest, and carbon offset projects.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross continued to slide  7 and detailed the request for                                                                    
DPOR.  The  division's  most significant  increase  was  the                                                                    
other funds  category. There was  an increase of  53 percent                                                                    
in UGF  because the division's  UGF authority for FY  24 was                                                                    
minimal,  which made  the new  boating safety  language item                                                                    
appear  more significant  than it  was.  The remaining  fund                                                                    
category  increases were  due to  bargain salary  and health                                                                    
insurance adjustments and increased  by just over 7 percent.                                                                    
The number  of positions  increased by five  for a  total of                                                                    
174 positions in the division.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross relayed  that the first item of  the division's FY                                                                    
25  governor's amended  budget request  was for  $300,000 in                                                                    
DGF  to  maintain the  fleet  to  ensure reliable  emergency                                                                    
responses  for  the safety  of  Alaskans.  The division  was                                                                    
responsible  for   ensuring  funding  for   crucial  offroad                                                                    
vehicles and boats  that were not part of  SEFP. The current                                                                    
fleet was aging and some  parts were no longer available for                                                                    
repairs. The second request was  for an increase of $375,000                                                                    
in CIP  receipts for two Engineering  Assistant II positions                                                                    
and one  Engineer/Architect II position  to meet  the demand                                                                    
of  increased design  and construction  infrastructure work.                                                                    
The three  new permanent positions would  focus on enhancing                                                                    
capital  projects, ensuring  public  safety, complying  with                                                                    
regulations,  and  providing  timely  technical  support  to                                                                    
other state  agencies. An influx of  federal funding through                                                                    
the  Land  and  Water  Conservation Fund  and  the  National                                                                    
Recreation  Trails Program  provided many  opportunities for                                                                    
parks projects  to enhance the  experience of  visitors, and                                                                    
the   three   new   positions  would   contribute   to   the                                                                    
improvements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross shared  that  the  next request  was  for a  Park                                                                    
Ranger  I position  and  a Park  Specialist  to restore  the                                                                    
management of Delta Area Parks  and Recreation. The division                                                                    
was asking  for an increase  of $210,000  in DGF to  pay for                                                                    
the  two  new  permanent fulltime  positions.  The  division                                                                    
would  restore  the management  of  seven  Delta state  park                                                                    
units  that needed  maintenance and  upgrades. She  stressed                                                                    
that both  positions would be  stationed in Delta  and would                                                                    
be co-located in the DFFP  office. The final request was for                                                                    
$281,300  in UGF  for boating  safety receipts.  The request                                                                    
would  remove $306,300  of boat  registration fee  authority                                                                    
from the  numbers section  of the budget  and would  add the                                                                    
$281,300 in UGF  in the language section.  The intention was                                                                    
to  allow boat  registration fees  to lapse  in the  general                                                                    
fund, then appropriate  an equal amount of  general funds in                                                                    
the  following  year.  The approach  would  allow  for  more                                                                    
predictability because the amount  of boat registration fees                                                                    
collected  each year  was uncertain  and  not available  for                                                                    
appropriation until  late in the  fiscal year.  The language                                                                    
item would be updated based on actual revenue collected.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:21:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross  advanced to  slide  8  and detailed  the  budget                                                                    
changes for  DMLW. The division's  budget increased  by just                                                                    
under $1.9  million and the  other funds  category increased                                                                    
by  approximately $500,000.  There  was a  UGF decrease  and                                                                    
federal funds decrease due to fund  changes and the end of a                                                                    
three-year,  one-time  UGF   increment  related  to  Revised                                                                    
Statute (RS) 2477. The remaining  fund category changes were                                                                    
due to  bargain salary and health  insurance adjustments for                                                                    
a total  budget increase  of 5.3  percent. The  first budget                                                                    
change was  an increase  of $741,000 in  DGF to  advance the                                                                    
state's  rights in  navigability and  RS 2477.  The division                                                                    
appropriated a one-time, three-year  increment between FY 22                                                                    
and  FY   24  of  $695,000  to   accomplish  the  governor's                                                                    
initiative  of managing  uplands, developing  resources, and                                                                    
increasing  Alaskan's  ownership  of  land  consistent  with                                                                    
unique federal and state laws.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson suggested  that  Ms.  Cross summarize  the                                                                    
items.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross  continued that  the funding  would pay  for three                                                                    
permanent positions  and the necessary ongoing  work related                                                                    
to RS 2477.  The next budget request was for  an increase of                                                                    
$500,000  in  CIP  authority  to  increase  capital  receipt                                                                    
authority  to accommodate  additional project  activity. The                                                                    
request was in  response to the increased  number of capital                                                                    
projects over the last few years.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross  relayed that  the  next  budget request  was  to                                                                    
realign personal  services funding  to assist  with employee                                                                    
retention  efforts. The  request was  for a  fund change  of                                                                    
$400,000 in DGF. The division  requested to realign personal                                                                    
services authority to reflect  the actual spending through a                                                                    
fund change.  The request would reduce  statutory designated                                                                    
program receipt authority by  $100,000 and federal authority                                                                    
by $300,000.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:24:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross continued  to slide 9 and the  Division of Support                                                                    
Services   (DSS).   The    division's   UGF   increased   by                                                                    
approximately  $800,000  and  the  remaining  fund  category                                                                    
increases were  due to bargain  salary and  health insurance                                                                    
adjustments. The  division's total  budget increased  by 6.1                                                                    
percent. The  number of positions  remained the same  at 89.                                                                    
The  division  only had  one  budget  change, which  was  an                                                                    
increase  of  $578,000  in  UGF  for  the  Fairbanks  Denali                                                                    
building  lease  renewal.  The   increment  within  the  DSS                                                                    
facilities  component would  provide DGGS  with the  funding                                                                    
required for its building lease  in Fairbanks. She explained                                                                    
that  DOT  began  a  search   for  an  alternative  building                                                                    
location in  2022 and  concluded that  there were  none that                                                                    
were suitable.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross  advanced  to  slide   10  and  the  Division  of                                                                    
Agriculture (DOA).  She relayed that the  division's minimal                                                                    
fund  category  increases were  due  to  bargain salary  and                                                                    
health insurance adjustments and  its total budget increased                                                                    
by 2.2  percent. The number  of positions remained  the same                                                                    
at  37. She  noted that  the division  had no  FY 25  budget                                                                    
changes  but she  would highlight  a few  of the  division's                                                                    
accomplishments  on the  slide.  The  division continued  to                                                                    
administer over  $6 million in  United States  Department of                                                                    
Agriculture (USDA) grants in recent  years with $2.3 million                                                                    
in microgrants for food security.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson shared  that she had the  privilege to tour                                                                    
some of  the agricultural facilities  in Delta in  2023. She                                                                    
understood that  one of  the requests  was for  more storage                                                                    
space  and to  set  aside  monies to  keep  the co-op  fully                                                                    
funded throughout the  year. She asked for an  update on the                                                                    
situation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Boyle  responded  that   he  understood  that  Co-Chair                                                                    
Johnson  was referring  to the  Delta  Grain Barley  Reserve                                                                    
Program.  The state  was  helping to  support  a co-op  that                                                                    
could buy a  certain quantity of barley grown  every year to                                                                    
ensure there was  a consistent level of  demand for farmers,                                                                    
create more  market opportunities,  and ensure a  measure of                                                                    
food security.  A recent rainy  year impacted the  amount of                                                                    
barley  that was  harvestable across  the state  which meant                                                                    
that livestock producers needed  to import barley from other                                                                    
states in  order to feed  the livestock. The purpose  of the                                                                    
program was  to start  building out a  safety net  to ensure                                                                    
that every year,  there would be a backstock  of barley that                                                                    
could  provide  grain  to the  agricultural  community  when                                                                    
necessary.  He   thought  the  program  would   be  a  smart                                                                    
investment in  infrastructure and help grow  more consistent                                                                    
demand,   which  would   enable  farmers   to  grow   higher                                                                    
quantities and to expand operations.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:29:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan referred  to DMLW on slide  8. She was                                                                    
hoping to see  some interest in increasing  funding to study                                                                    
invasive species.  She noted that there  was an experimental                                                                    
farm in  Palmer working on  an invasive species  project and                                                                    
she did not see any funds  listed for the efforts. She asked                                                                    
if there was a reason for the lack of funds.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  responded that the  experimental farm was  at the                                                                    
plant  material center  in Palmer  and  was led  by DOA.  He                                                                    
understood the director of DOA  was online and could provide                                                                    
additional details.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  confirmed  that   the  director  was  not                                                                    
online.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle asked if the deputy director was online.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson confirmed that  the deputy director was not                                                                    
online.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Boyle   replied  that   he   would   follow  up   with                                                                    
Representative Hannan on the status of the project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  referred to the first  budget request                                                                    
for  DMLW, which  was  $741,000 in  DGF  to advance  state's                                                                    
rights  in navigability  and RS  2477.  She understood  that                                                                    
$365,000  of the  $741,000 was  for legal  services and  she                                                                    
asked for more details about  the request. The Department of                                                                    
Law (DOL)  had millions of  dollars in its  budget allocated                                                                    
to  legal  services and  she  wondered  why the  funds  also                                                                    
needed to  be in  DMLW's budget if  the funding  was already                                                                    
present within DOL.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BRENT  GOODRUM, DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF NATURAL                                                                    
RESOURCES, responded that  much of the work done  by DNR and                                                                    
DMLW,  such  as gathering  information  and  working in  the                                                                    
field, was  encumbered by DMLW. He  relayed that oftentimes,                                                                    
the  department would  hire experts  prior to  litigation to                                                                    
join  department employees  in  the field.  There were  many                                                                    
locations  that   could  not   be  accessed  via   road  and                                                                    
transportation  via  airplane   was  required,  which  meant                                                                    
contracting with  aviation entities.  He explained  that any                                                                    
legal  cost that  occurred prior  to  a court  setting or  a                                                                    
filing in  court was encumbered  by DMLW. After there  was a                                                                    
formal  filing within  the Alaska  Court  System, DOL  would                                                                    
contract with the  experts in the field on  subjects such as                                                                    
geomorphology  and  navigability.  He  noted  that  DNR  was                                                                    
responsible for  a significant portion of  the upfront legal                                                                    
services work.  He stressed  that it  was critical  that the                                                                    
department conducted the "boots  on the ground" gathering of                                                                    
information up front so that  it could relay the information                                                                    
to DOL quickly, especially  when the state had disagreements                                                                    
with the federal government.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe referred  to DPOR  on slide  7. She                                                                    
understood that there  would be two new  positions for Delta                                                                    
parks.  She  was concerned  that  Chugach  Park was  getting                                                                    
overrun,  as it  was the  park  with the  highest levels  of                                                                    
traffic.  She  understood  that there  was  an  increase  in                                                                    
funding  for Chugach  and  asked if  there  were any  active                                                                    
plans to improve access to the park.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  suggested that  the director  of DPOR  respond to                                                                    
the question.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:34:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICKY  GEASE,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  PARKS  AND  OUTDOOR                                                                    
RECREATION,   DEPARTMENT    OF   NATURAL    RESOURCES   (via                                                                    
teleconference), responded  that the Delta State  Park areas                                                                    
needed  more staff  members. Typically,  the division  would                                                                    
meet  with  the  superintendents   and  rank  the  areas  of                                                                    
greatest need. There were about  six units in Delta that had                                                                    
been   under   passive   management  and   consignment   and                                                                    
concessionaires  had   been  operating  in  the   area.  The                                                                    
division  has been  proactive and  had been  making requests                                                                    
for the  Delta State  Park area. He  noted that  Chugach was                                                                    
the most  visited public  land in  Alaska. The  division was                                                                    
trying  to  allocate  as  many  resources  to  the  park  as                                                                    
possible through  the budget. The  division currently  had a                                                                    
significant amount  of capital  money that was  allocated to                                                                    
paving parking  lots and providing additional  parking as an                                                                    
effort to address the increased demand.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe asked  if there  were any  plans to                                                                    
add new positions around the Chugach Park access areas.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gease responded that the  division was looking at adding                                                                    
more employees. There  could be a request in  2025, 2026, or                                                                    
a  subsequent year's  budget for  additional employees.  The                                                                    
division  was  examining  its  resources  in  terms  of  the                                                                    
general fund  program receipts and  the vehicle  rental tax,                                                                    
which funded the  operating budget. If the  division had the                                                                    
capacity to take on additional  people, Chugach would likely                                                                    
be one of the priority investment areas.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:37:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross continued  on slide  11 and  detailed the  budget                                                                    
changes for DOG. The division's  DGF increased by just under                                                                    
$1  million, and  the federal  funds  category increased  by                                                                    
approximately $100,000. There was  a UGF reduction and other                                                                    
fund category  reduction due to fund  changes. The remaining                                                                    
fund category changes were due  to bargain salary and health                                                                    
insurance   adjustments.   The   division's   total   budget                                                                    
increased  by  2.2  percent  and  the  number  of  positions                                                                    
remained the same at 92.  There were three governor's budget                                                                    
changes which were all fund  changes. The division requested                                                                    
multiple fund changes by reducing  $500,000 in UGF authority                                                                    
and  a total  of  $485,000 in  statutory designated  program                                                                    
receipt  authority, while  increasing  general fund  program                                                                    
receipt  authority  by  $885,000 and  federal  authority  by                                                                    
$100,000. The  changes would align the  expenditures and the                                                                    
revenue related to the services the division provided.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross continued  to slide 12 and the  budget changes for                                                                    
OPMP. The office's  UGF increased by just  over $200,000 and                                                                    
the  remaining fund  category changes  were  due to  bargain                                                                    
salary and  health insurance  adjustments. The  total budget                                                                    
increased  by   3  percent  and  the   number  of  positions                                                                    
increased by one, bringing the  total number of positions to                                                                    
14.  The  office  had  one   governor's  budget  change  for                                                                    
administrative support for the  carbon offset program [in SB
48]  for  a  cost  of   $176,000  in  UGF.  The  office  was                                                                    
requesting  a  new  Administrative  Officer  I  position  to                                                                    
provide administrative  and project  support for  the carbon                                                                    
offset  program on  state land.  The position  would support                                                                    
the   newly  appointed   carbon   manager  in   successfully                                                                    
developing  and implementing  state projects  for the  state                                                                    
carbon offset  program. The program would  boost the state's                                                                    
economy with new state revenue.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross advanced to slide  13 and the DGGS budget changes.                                                                    
The  division's UGF  increased by  just under  $1.2 million.                                                                    
The remaining fund  category changes were due  to salary and                                                                    
health insurance adjustments. The  total budget increased by                                                                    
11.9 percent  and the  number of  positions in  the division                                                                    
increased by  two, bringing the  total to 68  positions. The                                                                    
division had  one budget  request for $1  million in  UGF to                                                                    
power Alaska's  future with geothermal energy  and two full-                                                                    
time positions  to support the mission.  The increment would                                                                    
create  a  three-person  geothermal  program  to  begin  the                                                                    
geothermal  characterization  work. One  existing  permanent                                                                    
full-time Geologist  IV would be  repurposed to  the program                                                                    
and there  would be  one new Geologist  III and  one Analyst                                                                    
III  recruited for  Anchorage or  Fairbanks. The  division's                                                                    
initial  stage  of   geothermal  characterization  work  was                                                                    
distinct  and would  be coordinated  with the  University of                                                                    
Alaska,  federal  partners,   Alaska  Native  partners,  and                                                                    
private sector  partners' ongoing initiatives. In  order for                                                                    
the   state  to   attract  industry   capital  and   develop                                                                    
geothermal  power plants,  the state  needed regional  scale                                                                    
geologic   information  to   identify  the   most  promising                                                                    
geothermal areas  to target. All  data and results  would be                                                                    
published  and  freely  available  to  the  public  and  the                                                                    
industry through the  division's easily accessible databases                                                                    
and published technical reports online.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:41:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan referred  to slide 12 on  OPMP and the                                                                    
carbon offset program addition. She  recalled that SB 48 had                                                                    
a fiscal  note for  staffing costs. She  asked Ms.  Cross to                                                                    
remind her  of the details of  the fiscal note, such  as the                                                                    
overall cost, the number of  positions that were added in SB
48, and  whether there had  been an increase in  demand. She                                                                    
wanted  to determine  whether the  fiscal  note was  written                                                                    
incorrectly and if it needed to be updated.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross  responded that the fiscal  note included $493,600                                                                    
in  UGF  and  the  addition  of  three  permanent  full-time                                                                    
positions.  One position  was within  DMLW,  one was  within                                                                    
OPMP, and  one was within  DFFP. Both positions  within DMLW                                                                    
and  OPMP had  been filled  and the  new employee  hired for                                                                    
DFFP would start later in the  month. The funding would be a                                                                    
continuation  for  FY 25  in  order  to add  the  additional                                                                    
administrative  support   position  once  the   program  was                                                                    
established.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle  added that  the department  was currently  in the                                                                    
regulation  promulgation  process  and  it  was  working  on                                                                    
getting the  state's forest assets  program off  the ground.                                                                    
He  thought that  the  department had  received  close to  a                                                                    
dozen   different   proposals   from   prospective   project                                                                    
developers  to date.  The regulation  process  needed to  be                                                                    
completed in order to establish  a framework to evaluate the                                                                    
different  proposals   and  then  determine  which   of  the                                                                    
potential projects  was within  the state's  best interests.                                                                    
The regulation  process should be  completed by  roughly the                                                                    
middle  of  2024.  From  the point  of  completion  on,  the                                                                    
department should be in a  position to start working through                                                                    
the  proposals to  determine  which  proposals had  actually                                                                    
materialized into a project on state land.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  expressed   her  concern  about  the                                                                    
supplemental nature  of the funding. She  was surprised that                                                                    
an administrative  support position was not  included in the                                                                    
fiscal note  for the bill and  that the funding would  be an                                                                    
additional add-on to the base  budget. She thought it seemed                                                                    
logical that  there would be  a need for  the administrative                                                                    
support position to execute the  program. She suggested that                                                                    
either the  process was not  thought through well  enough or                                                                    
that the response  was too overwhelming. She  hoped that the                                                                    
state would see some revenue  coming from the project in the                                                                    
following year.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross  replied that  an administrative  support position                                                                    
was included  in the fiscal  note. The three  positions that                                                                    
she discussed  previously were  for FY  24 and  the upcoming                                                                    
positions were  slated for FY  25. The department  wanted to                                                                    
ensure  that  the three  positions  were  filled and  stable                                                                    
before   an  additional   position  was   incorporated.  She                                                                    
reiterated that  the cost  was part  of the  original fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan asked if  a multi-year fiscal note was                                                                    
not automatically included  in a bill. She  had assumed that                                                                    
the  fiscal  note  would   be  automatically  included.  She                                                                    
relayed that Ms. Cross had  just stated that the fiscal note                                                                    
only outlined  the costs for  FY 24, but  the administrative                                                                    
support position was always set  to be incorporated in FY 25                                                                    
and the  funding needed to  be added  in again to  the base.                                                                    
She  would  have presumed  that  when  the fiscal  note  was                                                                    
adopted, the  position would have  already been  included in                                                                    
the costs.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Cross   replied   that   it   was   the   department's                                                                    
understanding  that even  when positions  were added  in the                                                                    
fiscal note, the  department would still have  to go through                                                                    
the process with  the Office of Management  and Budget (OMB)                                                                    
to request  the positions,  which was  the approach  it took                                                                    
for  FY  25. A  representative  from  OMB was  available  to                                                                    
answer  the   question  in  more  detail.   She  noted  that                                                                    
Representative Cronk  was the DNR subcommittee  co-chair and                                                                    
he  and his  staff  were extremely  knowledgeable about  the                                                                    
process.  According  to  Representative Cronk's  staff,  the                                                                    
department prepared the fiscal note in the proper manner.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:47:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin   referred  to   slide  13   and  the                                                                    
geothermal  energy  project. She  asked  if  the $1  million                                                                    
increment would be allocated for  two positions or for three                                                                    
positions.  She also  asked for  more information  about the                                                                    
geothermal  project,   such  as   whether  sites   had  been                                                                    
identified and how the money would be spent.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle responded that the  $1 million funding would apply                                                                    
to two  positions, as denoted  on the slide. The  purpose of                                                                    
the  program  was  to  recognize  that  the  state  had  not                                                                    
dedicated   resources   to  understanding   its   geothermal                                                                    
potential.  The   state  was  currently  facing   an  energy                                                                    
shortfall  in the  Cook Inlet  and  he thought  that it  was                                                                    
incumbent upon  the state to  look at developing all  of its                                                                    
potential energy  resources of all types.  Geothermal energy                                                                    
was   a  topic   of  significance   because  Alaska   was  a                                                                    
seismically  active area.  The  first priority  would be  to                                                                    
conduct  early characterization  work,  particularly in  the                                                                    
Cook  Inlet,   in  order  to  better   understand  what  the                                                                    
hydrological and  geothermal systems  were in the  area. The                                                                    
goal was to  use the data to help  incentivize companies and                                                                    
entities  interested  in   developing  geothermal  power  to                                                                    
consider   Alaska.   Geothermal   technology   was   rapidly                                                                    
advancing and  the toolkit  of different  geothermal options                                                                    
had expanded significantly  in the last few  years. The goal                                                                    
was to focus  on delivering energy solutions  for the state,                                                                    
including  the  Railbelt.   Geothermal  systems  could  help                                                                    
provide   reliable,    renewable,   low-cost    energy   for                                                                    
communities that  were not currently connected  to the grid.                                                                    
He expressed  that he  was enthusiastic  about the  idea and                                                                    
thought that there was a lot of potential in the state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin asked  if there was a plan  for the $1                                                                    
million request.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boyle responded  that there was a scope  of work already                                                                    
in process.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:51:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Cross advanced to slide 14  and the budget for the Trust                                                                    
Land  Office (TLO),  which was  supported by  AMHTA funding.                                                                    
The office followed a zero-based  budget in each fiscal year                                                                    
and the $100,000  increase in the other category  was due to                                                                    
salary  adjustments.  The  total  budget  increased  by  2.1                                                                    
percent and the  number of positions in  the office remained                                                                    
the same.  The office did not  experience significant budget                                                                    
changes,  but some  of  its  accomplishments and  priorities                                                                    
were listed on the slide.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross continued  to  slide  15 and  the  Office of  the                                                                    
Commissioner. There  were minor  fund changes due  to salary                                                                    
adjustments and  the total budget increased  by 1.6 percent.                                                                    
The number  of positions  remained the same  at 10.  Some of                                                                    
the accomplishments of the office  were listed on the slide,                                                                    
most notably the adjudication of 35 appeals in FY 23.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross moved  to slide  16 and  provided an  overview of                                                                    
DNR's vacancy data and  recruitment initiatives. The overall                                                                    
department vacancy rate  was 16.1 percent as  of January 31,                                                                    
2024. The  vacancy rate  had continued  to decline  over the                                                                    
last 14  months. The division  with the lowest  vacancy rate                                                                    
was TLO at 0 percent and  the highest rate was OPMP at 30.8;                                                                    
however, OPMP's  high vacancy  rate was  due to  there being                                                                    
very  few  positions  within the  office.  The  department's                                                                    
recruitment     and    retention     initiatives    included                                                                    
transitioning 11  job classes to a  competency-based minimum                                                                    
qualifications  (MQ)  system,  which  impacted  roughly  300                                                                    
positions  at DNR.  The  change  included expanding  natural                                                                    
resource  specialist  jobs  to  accommodate  non-supervisory                                                                    
career paths.  The department had reduced  processing of its                                                                    
recruitment  timelines  to  under   two  business  days  for                                                                    
postings  and hire  approvals and  it had  also successfully                                                                    
utilized  hybrid  telework  to promote  a  better  work-life                                                                    
balance.  Currently,  44  percent of  DNR's  employees  were                                                                    
utilizing a hybrid telework schedule  and 56 percent were in                                                                    
the office fulltime.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cross explained  that the  department  was utilizing  a                                                                    
number of strategies to address  the vacancy and recruitment                                                                    
challenges, such  as reclassifying and  modifying positions,                                                                    
utilizing  acting status,  broadening  the applicant  pools,                                                                    
hiring   for  short   term  and   long  term   non-permanent                                                                    
positions, offering advanced  step placements, and extending                                                                    
seasonal work options. She relayed  that DNR was one of four                                                                    
departments that  would begin utilizing the  new recruitment                                                                    
tool called Attract  later in the month. The  new tool would                                                                    
leverage   the  database   of   prospective  jobseekers   by                                                                    
categorizing work  experience and history into  a searchable                                                                    
system  and issue  automated notifications  to up  to 66,000                                                                    
jobseekers  in  Alaska  that  could  be  suitable  for  open                                                                    
positions.  She shared  that Attract  had shown  to increase                                                                    
the applicant pool by 36  percent on average during its beta                                                                    
testing phase.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:56:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk relayed  that he  had a  comment about                                                                    
the earlier conversation  on timber. He explained  that if a                                                                    
forest fire burned through a  timber section of birch trees,                                                                    
the  trees  would rot  and  the  wood  would be  wasted.  He                                                                    
thought  that  bureaucracy  was   slowing  down  the  timber                                                                    
industry and wood was becoming  worthless. He urged that the                                                                    
state view its timber as  a resource rather than allowing it                                                                    
to burn or rot.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB  268  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  270  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson reviewed  the agenda  for the  afternoon's                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:58:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:58 a.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2024 DNR HFIN Budget Budget Overview 030624.pdf HFIN 3/6/2024 8:30:00 AM
HB 268
HB 270