Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

03/01/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:35:42 PM Start
01:36:49 PM HB268 || HB270
01:36:56 PM Overview: Fy 25 Budget by the Department of Labor and Workforce Development
02:32:44 PM Overview: Fy 25 Budget by the Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development
03:31:16 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 268 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP; AM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 270 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: FY 25 Budget by Commissioner-Designee TELECONFERENCED
Cathy Muñoz; and Dan DeBartolo, Administrative
Services Director, Department of Labor and
Workforce Development
+ Overview: FY 25 Budget by Commissioner Julie TELECONFERENCED
Sande; Micaela Fowler, Deputy Commissioner; and
Hannah Lager, Administrative Services Director,
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic
Development
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       March 1, 2024                                                                                            
                         1:35 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:35:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:35 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Cathy Munoz, Commissioner-Designee,  Department of Labor and                                                                    
Workforce   Development;   Dan   DeBartolo,   Administrative                                                                    
Service   Director,  Department   of  Labor   and  Workforce                                                                    
Development;  Julie   Sande,  Commissioner,   Department  of                                                                    
Commerce, Community and  Economic Development; Hannah Lager,                                                                    
Administrative  Services Director,  Department of  Commerce,                                                                    
Community and  Economic Development; Micaela  Fowler, Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner,   Department   of  Commerce,   Community   and                                                                    
Economic Development.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Duane    Mayes,    Director,    Division    of    Vocational                                                                    
Rehabilitation,   Department   of    Labor   and   Workforce                                                                    
Development;  Cathy  LeCompte, Director,  Alaska  Vocational                                                                    
Technical Center, Department of Labor and Workforce                                                                             
Development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 268    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET; CAP; SUPP; AM                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          HB 268 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 270    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 270 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: FY 25 BUDGET BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND                                                                           
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: FY 25 BUDGET BY THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE,                                                                           
COMMUNITY, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 268                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;  making capital  appropriations; making                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriations; making  reappropriations;                                                                    
     making  appropriations  under   art.  IX,  sec.  17(c),                                                                    
     Constitution  of   the  State   of  Alaska,   from  the                                                                    
     constitutional budget  reserve fund; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 270                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:36:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: FY 25 BUDGET BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND                                                                        
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:36:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATHY MUNOZ, COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE,  DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND                                                                    
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT,  provided opening remarks on  slide 2                                                                    
of  a  PowerPoint  presentation  "FY2025  Department  Budget                                                                    
Overview," dated March 1, 2024:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The  Department  of  Labor  and  Workforce  Development                                                                    
     assists   Alaskans   with  training   and   employment,                                                                    
     promotes  safe  working   conditions,  and  facilitates                                                                    
     income replacement for those injured  on the job or for                                                                    
     those  temporarily out  of  work.  We deliver  services                                                                    
     through  seven divisions  including 14  job centers  in                                                                    
     locations   in  southern   Southeast  to   the  Arctic.                                                                    
     Workforce  development  is  a   key  component  of  our                                                                    
     mission.  In   the  past  year  the   Alaska  Workforce                                                                    
     Investment Board facilitated  the distribution of state                                                                    
     and  federal training  resources to  regional Technical                                                                    
     Vocational  Education  Program  (TVEP)  recipients,  35                                                                    
     State Training and  Employment Program (STEP) grantees,                                                                    
     and  8  construction   academies  in  partnership  with                                                                    
     Alaska's regional training network.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Since  assuming  the  duties of  commissioner,  I  have                                                                    
     challenged the department's leadership  to come up with                                                                    
     innovative  ways  to  reach Alaskans  to  fill  current                                                                    
     labor    market   vacancies,    to   expand    training                                                                    
     opportunities,   and   to   improve   client   business                                                                    
     processes.   Highlights  of   the  past   year  include                                                                    
     increased  individual training  support through  our 14                                                                    
     job centers  by expanding  the eligibility for  some of                                                                    
     our  federal training  programming  that comes  through                                                                    
     the  job  centers  as  well   as  the  distribution  of                                                                    
     multiyear funding  that was put  into the FY  23 budget                                                                    
     by the  legislature and the  governor. We  also revived                                                                    
     the Office  of Citizenship  Assistance to  assist legal                                                                    
     immigrants and  refugees with training  and employment.                                                                    
     Those   services   have   been  offered   through   the                                                                    
     commissioner's office and we're  hoping to expand. With                                                                    
     the  FY  25 budget  we  have  a  request to  put  three                                                                    
     positions in  Anchorage that will have  outreach around                                                                    
     the state to assist new citizens.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     We  also  implemented  the first  in  the  nation,  the                                                                    
     Alaska  Occupational  Safety  and  Health  Diversionary                                                                    
     Program  to allow  financial penalty  waivers on  first                                                                    
     time    citations   for    small   businesses.    We're                                                                    
     implementing   a   career   guide  project   with   the                                                                    
     Department  of  Education,   which  will  place  career                                                                    
     guides  at  three  of our  job  centers  in  Ketchikan,                                                                    
     Bethel,  and Fairbanks.  The guides  will work  closely                                                                    
     with   schools  in   those   districts  around   career                                                                    
     awareness,  FAFSA  completion, pre-apprenticeship,  and                                                                    
     other opportunities  connected to industry.  We're also                                                                    
     partnering with the Alaska Safety  Alliance on a cross-                                                                    
     industry  workforce  plan,  which is  projected  to  be                                                                    
     completed by the end of  March and will be presented to                                                                    
     the Alaska  Workforce Investment Board and  then to the                                                                    
     legislature and to the governor.  Finally, we hosted an                                                                    
     industry  led  convening around  workforce  development                                                                    
     last  October  and  the   information  that  we  gained                                                                    
     through that  convening was feeding into  the update of                                                                    
     the cross-industry workforce plan.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Designee  Munoz thanked  the committee  for the                                                                    
opportunity to  present to the  committee. She  introduced a                                                                    
colleague  who  would review  the  Department  of Labor  and                                                                    
Workforce Development (DLWD) budget.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:40:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN DEBARTOLO,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE  DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF LABOR  AND WORKFORCE  DEVELOPMENT, moved  to slide  3 and                                                                    
reviewed  the department's  organization and  core services.                                                                    
The  department was  healthy  from  a programmatic  delivery                                                                    
standpoint,  but it  was grappling  with vacancies  and more                                                                    
frequent turnover of  positions. Fortunately, the department                                                                    
prided  itself  on  a highly  collaborative  culture,  which                                                                    
helped  to  manage  the  issue and  work  on  strategies  to                                                                    
improve recruitment  and retention.  The department  had 680                                                                    
permanent full-time  positions, 43 permanent  part-time, and                                                                    
21 temporary  positions. The slide  showed the  core service                                                                    
portions   of  DLWD's   mission   with  protecting   workers                                                                    
accounting for 15 percent of  the budget, income replacement                                                                    
accounting   for   21   percent,  leadership   and   support                                                                    
accounting  for   11  percent,  and   workforce  development                                                                    
accounting for 52 percent.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo   noted  there   were  numerous   DLWD  staff                                                                    
available   online  to   answer  questions   throughout  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:42:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo turned  to slide  4 titled  "FY2025 Operating                                                                    
Budget Comparison."  The department's proposed FY  25 budget                                                                    
was $164,900,000.  He detailed  that just under  $18 million                                                                    
was interagency authority (IA) shown  under the "other" fund                                                                    
category reflected in yellow in  the bar chart on the slide.                                                                    
He highlighted that IA  was duplicative authorization, which                                                                    
allowed the  department to spend  funds from  other sources.                                                                    
The  larger  changes  for  FY  25  involved  IA,  which  was                                                                    
reflected  in  a 22  percent  increase  in other  funds.  He                                                                    
reminded  the  committee  that DLWD  had  the  third  lowest                                                                    
allocation of unrestricted general  funds (UGF), which meant                                                                    
the   department  had   lower  flexibility   with  its   UGF                                                                    
allocations   as   they   were  tied   to   state   spending                                                                    
requirements,    federal   programs,    designated   program                                                                    
receipts, and grant matching.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo addressed  reductions  in designated  general                                                                    
funds (DGF) and UGF on the  slide. He explained that the DGF                                                                    
was tied  to the decrement  in available funds for  the TVEP                                                                    
program,  which was  set  to  sunset on  June  30, 2024.  He                                                                    
explained that  if the program was  reauthorized there would                                                                    
be a  fiscal note to reestablish  the funding for FY  25 and                                                                    
beyond. The  UGF reduction was  not a cut to  the department                                                                    
but reflected  an expiration of  multiyear funds  granted to                                                                    
the  department  for FY  23  and  FY 24  at  a  total of  $7                                                                    
million.  The  department  had  granted  the  funds  through                                                                    
numerous mechanisms  throughout the department  and intended                                                                    
to have  the funds fully  expended by the  end of FY  24. He                                                                    
noted that  proposed changes from  FY 24 were  summarized on                                                                    
slides 11 and 12.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:44:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo moved  to slide  5  titled "Commissioner  and                                                                    
Administrative Services." The  commissioner's office and the                                                                    
Administrative Services  Division (ASD)  covered leadership,                                                                    
budget  and  finance,  human  resources,  and  facility  and                                                                    
procurement functions. Additionally,  DWLD housed the Alaska                                                                    
Labor   Relations  Agency   (ALRA),  the   Alaska  Workforce                                                                    
Investment Board (AWIB), and  the Resources Analysis Section                                                                    
responsible  for producing  the  monthly Trends  publication                                                                    
(available on the department's website).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo  shared  that AWIB  hosted  an  industry  led                                                                    
convening  on  workforce  development in  Anchorage  in  the                                                                    
current  year. In  2023, ALRA  resolved  seven unfair  labor                                                                    
practice cases.  He noted that  the three-person  office put                                                                    
substantial time  into each of the  cases. Additionally, the                                                                    
department  successfully applied  for and  received a  state                                                                    
apprenticeship   expansion   formula  grant   for   building                                                                    
stronger    relationships    between   secondary    schools,                                                                    
employers, and apprenticeship opportunities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo pointed to the  last bullet point on the slide                                                                    
"Technology   Services."  The   department  was   requesting                                                                    
$608,000 in  IA in FY 25  to stand up a  technology services                                                                    
component  under  the ASD.  He  explained  that all  of  the                                                                    
department  information technology  (IT) staff  were located                                                                    
inside  the  ASD;  however,  some   of  the  positions  were                                                                    
scattered  in   the  early  days   of  the   [Department  of                                                                    
Administration]    Office   of    Information   Technology's                                                                    
initiatives. The  department was receiving four  of the five                                                                    
help   desk  positions   it   had  surrendered.   Department                                                                    
leadership  agreed   it  was   best  to   put  all   of  the                                                                    
department's IT  services back  under one  component, making                                                                    
it  easier  to  manage   from  a  financial  management  and                                                                    
personnel   standpoint.  He   noted   the  information   was                                                                    
summarized on slide 10.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo addressed  the second to last  bullet point on                                                                    
slide 6  "Office of Citizenship  Assistance." The  Office of                                                                    
Citizenship Assistance (OCA) was  housed under the Office of                                                                    
the  Commissioner and  was responsible  for assisting  legal                                                                    
immigrants   and   refugee   families  with   training   and                                                                    
employment. The  office was  originally codified  in statute                                                                    
in  2004 to  provide employment  information and  support as                                                                    
well as referrals to public  and private resources to people                                                                    
who legally  reside in  Alaska but  were not  U.S. citizens.                                                                    
Since that  time, OCA had  received limited funding  and had                                                                    
been unutilized for  over a decade. Approval  of the funding                                                                    
request  would  result  in   a  new  three-person  component                                                                    
located in the department's  midtown job center in Anchorage                                                                    
to serve Alaskans statewide. The  $437,000 UGF request would                                                                    
cover wages, supplies, publication materials, and outreach.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson asked  about  some of  the immigration  to                                                                    
Alaska. She stated her understanding  Alaska had a number of                                                                    
Ukrainian immigrants particularly in  the Mat-Su Valley. She                                                                    
asked if the department for a  general idea of the number of                                                                    
immigrants coming to  Alaska in the past  several years. She                                                                    
wondered about any predictions for  immigration to the state                                                                    
in the future.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:49:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Munoz  replied that the past  year the                                                                    
state had  welcomed approximately  700 Ukrainians  through a                                                                    
sponsorship program.  She relayed  that just  recently there                                                                    
had been  a federal  announcement that  asylees could  get a                                                                    
two-year extension to their legal time period.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson asked  how many  immigrants the  state may                                                                    
have in coming years designated by a federal action.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Munoz  did not  have the  exact number                                                                    
but  it was  a goal  of  the governor  to welcome  Ukrainian                                                                    
citizens. She  stated that  many of  the families  coming to                                                                    
Alaska brought  skills. The OCA would  assist individuals in                                                                    
translating  transcripts,  helping  them  get  settled,  and                                                                    
helping them  with employment training. She  would follow up                                                                    
with the information.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson did  not  believe  the immigration  number                                                                    
stopped  with 700  people  the past  year.  She thought  she                                                                    
heard there were more individuals  likely coming. She stated                                                                    
that many of  the individuals were relocating  to the Mat-Su                                                                    
Valley because  they were relocating to  places that already                                                                    
had a community of individuals  from their home country. She                                                                    
thought there  was great opportunity, but  she was concerned                                                                    
about strain  on the state's  services such as  schools. She                                                                    
wondered  if  there  was  some  responsibility  the  federal                                                                    
government may have  or grants that needed to  be pursued to                                                                    
ensure people had the services they needed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:52:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Munoz  agreed it would be  helpful for                                                                    
the   federal  government   to   commit   support  to   help                                                                    
individuals  get   resettled  and  to  be   successful.  She                                                                    
reiterated her  earlier statement that the  individuals were                                                                    
coming via sponsors and generally  had a place to stay, were                                                                    
eager to  get to  work, and many  had technical  and medical                                                                    
skills. The department  wanted to be ready  and assistive as                                                                    
individuals transitioned to Alaska.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson suggested that  if most of the resettlement                                                                    
was happening in Mat-Su perhaps  it would be a good location                                                                    
for the office. She would  like to see numbers showing where                                                                    
individuals were being resettled to.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee   Munoz    would   follow    up   with                                                                    
information on  where Ukrainians  were settling. She  knew a                                                                    
lot of families were in the  Delta region and other parts of                                                                    
the state as well.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz asked  what contributing factors caused                                                                    
the OCA to  be underutilized in the past.  He referenced the                                                                    
request for three  positions to be located  in Anchorage and                                                                    
asked   if  it   was   the  best   location  for   increased                                                                    
utilization.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Munoz responded  that the department's                                                                    
vision was  to ensure  a strong  outreach component  so that                                                                    
individuals  would  be  getting  out  to  Southeast  Alaska,                                                                    
Delta, and Fairbanks. She relayed  that DLWD was flexible in                                                                    
looking at where the positions  would be placed. The current                                                                    
plan was  to place the  positions at the midtown  job center                                                                    
in Anchorage because  it was the population  center and most                                                                    
of  the individuals  [immigrants  and  asylees] were  coming                                                                    
through Anchorage.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz asked  why the  office had  previously                                                                    
been underutilized.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Munoz  replied   that  OCA  had  been                                                                    
established  in 2005.  She explained  that an  individual in                                                                    
Juneau,  Rafael  Castanos,  had championed  the  effort  and                                                                    
believed strongly  that a  state office  was needed  to help                                                                    
people resettle successfully in  Alaska. The office had been                                                                    
established   in   statute   under   the   Office   of   the                                                                    
Commissioner. She  elaborated that the office  got going for                                                                    
about six months  and fizzled out due to a  lack of interest                                                                    
in maintaining the work. She  explained that there was now a                                                                    
great need as  there were many Ukrainians  coming to Alaska.                                                                    
She elaborated  that as long as  Alaska had been a  state it                                                                    
had  welcomed people  from around  the world  including many                                                                    
Filipinos.   She  highlighted   there  were   many  Filipino                                                                    
teachers in Alaska  on J-1 visas. She relayed  that DLWD saw                                                                    
the office  as an opportunity to  help individuals integrate                                                                    
and be successful.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:56:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe  observed   that  the   three  new                                                                    
positions  would  be  funded  with UGF.  She  saw  that  the                                                                    
department  identified  three  vacant positions  from  other                                                                    
allocations   for  reclassification.   She   asked  if   the                                                                    
department  was  funding  the   new  positions  with  vacant                                                                    
positions but asking for general funds.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Munoz  replied that the  positions had                                                                    
been vacant for  a long period of time  that DLWD identified                                                                    
in the budget for reclassification.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo  added that  the  department  had been  going                                                                    
through the exercise each year  and recently the legislature                                                                    
(the House  in particular)  showed an interest  in positions                                                                    
that had  been vacant for  a long  period of time.  When the                                                                    
department  knew  it  needed  new  positions  it  identified                                                                    
existing  positions that  could be  reclassified. The  three                                                                    
specific  positions  had  been   vacant  for  24  months  or                                                                    
greater, two were 100 percent  federally funded, and one was                                                                    
largely UGF  funded. He explained  that the  three positions                                                                    
would be  reclassed if the  legislature was  supportive, but                                                                    
it would need general funds to pay for the salaries.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  referred to OCA and  understood there                                                                    
had  been a  focus  on Ukrainian  individuals. She  remarked                                                                    
that she had been hearing about  a lot of needs for language                                                                    
access to get into the  workforce. She stated there had been                                                                    
numerous individuals  coming from Afghanistan,  many African                                                                    
countries,  Polynesian countries,  and the  Philippines. She                                                                    
highlighted that  due to the skills  of incoming individuals                                                                    
there  was an  almost immediate  opportunity in  healthcare,                                                                    
childcare, and various trades. She  noted that Anchorage was                                                                    
often the first  hub for individuals and there  seemed to be                                                                    
a  nucleus  of  individuals  who  would  greatly  appreciate                                                                    
having the opportunity to get  immediate access to jobs. She                                                                    
supported   the  item   in   the   budget.  She   referenced                                                                    
individuals'  associated  language  and  the  high  need  in                                                                    
Anchorage.  She  mentioned  peer leader  navigators  working                                                                    
within  the  healthcare  field   in  the  refugee  community                                                                    
traveling around Alaska.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:01:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if there had  been any analysis                                                                    
of how many  people the department could  support to gainful                                                                    
employment in a year.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Munoz answered  that  every year  the                                                                    
department did  a 10-year forecast targeting  predicted jobs                                                                    
in  each sector  of the  economy. She  asked if  it was  the                                                                    
information Representative Hannan was referring to.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  referenced   the   number  of   700                                                                    
Ukrainians [coming to Alaska in  the past year] mentioned by                                                                    
Commissioner-Designee Munoz.  She surmised that some  of the                                                                    
individuals  were  kids  and   not  in  the  workforce.  She                                                                    
considered  that  if  the  state  was  moving  1,000  people                                                                    
through  the  OCA and  supporting  them  to achieve  gainful                                                                    
employment in Alaska  at an average of $437 per  head it was                                                                    
a good investment.  The department had not  heard any sector                                                                    
in the  past two years had  too many workers. She  stated it                                                                    
was difficult  to speculate different skills,  industry, and                                                                    
demands; however,  if 1,000 people  were moved  into gainful                                                                    
employment it would  be a chief investment  into the state's                                                                    
economy that was  well worth it. She was excited  to see the                                                                    
outcome and highlighted  the goal of DLWD  to support people                                                                    
into  gainful  employment.  She  noted  there  was  a  broad                                                                    
diversity  of   needs  people   may  have   including  basic                                                                    
language,   transcription,   and   licensure   issues.   She                                                                    
supported the increment.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:03:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   DeBartolo  turned   to   slide   6  titled   "Workers'                                                                    
Compensation."  The  mission  of the  Workers'  Compensation                                                                    
Division was to ensure  the efficient, fair, and predictable                                                                    
delivery    of    indemnity,   medical,    and    vocational                                                                    
rehabilitation  benefits  intended   to  enable  workers  to                                                                    
return  to  work at  a  reasonable  cost to  employers.  The                                                                    
division was funded almost entirely  with collected DGF. The                                                                    
division  was challenged  by the  impact  of the  division's                                                                    
success on  revenue collections. He explained  that workers'                                                                    
compensation operations  were supported by revenue  that was                                                                    
generated  by  assessing  a  2.5  percent  fee  against  the                                                                    
premiums  paid   by  employers  for   workers'  compensation                                                                    
insurance.  He elaborated  that as  DLWD worked  to increase                                                                    
worker  safety, the  premiums decline  due to  a decline  in                                                                    
risk.  Consequently,  program   revenue  also  declined.  He                                                                    
pointed out that the  division's special investigations unit                                                                    
finalized  a   record  182  investigations   with  uninsured                                                                    
employers the  previous year.  He detailed  that 118  of the                                                                    
cases  were  settled  without  litigation,  and  three  were                                                                    
resolved with a decision and order.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  relayed that there were  two proposed changes                                                                    
associated with  workers' compensation.  First, there  was a                                                                    
$518,000  FY  24  supplemental   request  for  the  Workers'                                                                    
Compensation  Benefit  Guarantee  Fund.   He  noted  that  a                                                                    
summary was located on slide  12, line 2. The fund collected                                                                    
fines associated  with uninsured employers and  utilized the                                                                    
funds  to  guarantee   workers'  compensation  benefits  for                                                                    
injured workers. Through FY 21,  the funds were historically                                                                    
restored through the reverse sweep  process; however, it was                                                                    
no longer  the case  beginning in FY  22. Since  then, there                                                                    
had been  several larger and  more impactful  claims against                                                                    
the  fund and  new revenues  had not  been adequate  to keep                                                                    
pace.  He  noted  that  the failure  to  timely  pay  claims                                                                    
carried a  25 percent penalty  to the state  with associated                                                                    
interest.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked when  the supplemental  budget needed                                                                    
to be passed.  He asked for verification that  the state was                                                                    
already in the fine period.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  responded that  he did  not believe  the fine                                                                    
period had  commenced. He explained that  the department was                                                                    
anticipating  payment  claims  in the  current  fiscal  year                                                                    
based on what was in  pipeline. The department was currently                                                                    
collecting revenue. He explained  that if the department was                                                                    
anticipating  additional funds  it  could get  by. Once  the                                                                    
department was  unable to pay  fines in cash, it  could face                                                                    
fines within 30 days.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted the supplemental would  likely not be                                                                    
complete until the  end of session with  the regular budget.                                                                    
He thought it sounded like that timeframe was acceptable.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:07:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo reviewed  the second  change associated  with                                                                    
workers'  compensation.  The  request was  for  $118,000  in                                                                    
authority    in    the    Workers'    Safety    Compensation                                                                    
Administration Account  in the  FY 25 budget.  The increment                                                                    
was  related to  a  salary study  for workers'  compensation                                                                    
hearing  officers. The  study was  completed several  months                                                                    
back  and  the  Division   of  Personnel  had  approved  the                                                                    
increase  to pay  the individuals,  most of  whom had  legal                                                                    
degrees.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo addressed the Division  of Labor Standards and                                                                    
Safety  on slide  7. The  division's mission  was to  create                                                                    
safe  and   legal  working  conditions.   Primary  functions                                                                    
included   wage   and    hour   investigations;   mechanical                                                                    
inspections  of  items  such   as  elevators,  boilers,  and                                                                    
electrical work;  and occupational  safety and  health (OSH)                                                                    
consultation and enforcement.  The division relied primarily                                                                    
on collected  DGF revenue for  operations with  some federal                                                                    
funds and UGF match making  up most of the remaining budget.                                                                    
He highlighted that  wage and hour provided  more than 4,679                                                                    
volunteering appliance briefings  to employers and collected                                                                    
$153,000 in  wages going  to Alaskan  workers. Additionally,                                                                    
mechanical  inspections  conducted 6,748  boiler,  elevator,                                                                    
electrical, and  plumbing inspection, reviewed  and approved                                                                    
7,174   third-party  inspections,   identified  1,075   code                                                                    
violations, and  conducted 827 on-site  construction project                                                                    
visits  to ensure  contractor licensing  and certificate  of                                                                    
fitness  compliance.  He  relayed   that  all  of  the  work                                                                    
resulted  in  72   enforcement  actions.  Additionally,  OSH                                                                    
conducted  323 occupational  safety and  health consultation                                                                    
visits and 338 enforcement  inspections. He pointed out that                                                                    
OSH  provided training  to 7,940  workers  and customers  on                                                                    
occupational  safety and  health  standards.  There were  no                                                                    
proposed changes to their budget for FY 25.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:09:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo  discussed  the Division  of  Employment  and                                                                    
Training  Services (DETS)  on slide  8. The  division worked                                                                    
with  business  industry to  build  a  trained and  prepared                                                                    
workforce by  providing labor exchange,  employment training                                                                    
services,  and   unemployment  insurance  to   Alaskans  and                                                                    
Alaskan businesses. He relayed that  DETS was the largest in                                                                    
the department  with the majority of  funding for operations                                                                    
coming  from the  federal government.  The  majority of  the                                                                    
work  fell into  two  categories: 1)  workforce service  and                                                                    
development  and   2)  unemployment  insurance.   Since  the                                                                    
pandemic, the  division had focused  its efforts  on meeting                                                                    
or exceeding  acceptable levels  of performance  in critical                                                                    
areas  such   as  first   pay  timeliness   and  eligibility                                                                    
determination  quality. Many  had commented  in the  past on                                                                    
how the  work had declined  during the pandemic, but  it was                                                                    
due  to  the share  volume  of  the emergency  programs  the                                                                    
department  had to  put in  place and  the massive  spike in                                                                    
applications received by the division.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  highlighted that the  DETS job centers  had a                                                                    
banner  year   for  training.  Through  December   2023  the                                                                    
department  provided  $5.1  million  in  training  funds  to                                                                    
individuals seeking financial  assistance. By comparison, in                                                                    
December 2022,  the department had provided  $2.7 million in                                                                    
training funds.  The difference reflected an  increase of 87                                                                    
percent  year-over-year. The  department recently  signed an                                                                    
agreement  with  the U.S.  Department  of  Defense (DOD)  to                                                                    
become  a  SkillBridge  partner.  The  DOD  program  was  an                                                                    
opportunity for service members  to gain invaluable civilian                                                                    
work experience  through industry  training, apprenticeship,                                                                    
or work experience during their last 180 days of service.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin asked  about  training services.  She                                                                    
was  especially interested  in  vacancies  in the  education                                                                    
field.  She  spoke about  the  deficit  of teachers  due  to                                                                    
departure from  the job for  other work and  retirement. The                                                                    
individuals included teachers, aides,  and others. She asked                                                                    
if there were any innovative  or historical ways to grow the                                                                    
workforce.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Munoz  replied  that  one  innovative                                                                    
project  the  department  was working  on  was  through  the                                                                    
apprenticeship  program.   The  program  was   working  with                                                                    
Bristol Bay  and the Yukon-Kuskokwim  Delta. The  areas were                                                                    
interested in using apprenticeship  partnered with DLWD as a                                                                    
means  to  train  young  people   in  the  communities.  The                                                                    
department  provided  support   for  technical  instruction.                                                                    
Under  the specific  scenario, the  school district  was the                                                                    
partner. She  believed it would  be a great tool  that could                                                                    
be used throughout the state.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked about  the goal related  to the                                                                    
number  of  teachers.  She asked  if  the  department  would                                                                    
consider working with more partners throughout the state.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Munoz  replied  that  the  department                                                                    
wanted to  partner with other districts  on the opportunity.                                                                    
She did not have the number but would follow up.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo continued to discuss  slide 8 related to DETS.                                                                    
There  were two  proposed  changes  for DETS  in  the FY  25                                                                    
budget (both summarized on slide  11). First, the department                                                                    
was  requesting $2.4  million  in  interagency authority  to                                                                    
receive  funds from  the  Department  of Transportation  and                                                                    
Public  Facilities (DOT).  He  explained  that DOT  received                                                                    
federal  funds  for  workforce   training  as  part  of  the                                                                    
Infrastructure   Investment   and   Jobs  Act   (IIJA).   He                                                                    
elaborated  that DOT  would  partner  with DLWD's  workforce                                                                    
services  component to  grant funds  to individuals  through                                                                    
the  Alaska  Job Center  Network.  The  funding would  cover                                                                    
costs  directly  associated  with  training  and  supportive                                                                    
services  while in  training. The  partnership also  allowed                                                                    
DOT   to  take   advantage   of   DLWD's  well   established                                                                    
distribution network  and directed federal  training dollars                                                                    
to Alaskans for high demand infrastructure jobs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:15:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   DeBartolo   addressed   the  second   budget   request                                                                    
pertaining to DETS on slide  8. The $480,000 UGF request was                                                                    
the department's only  capital budget request for  FY 25 and                                                                    
would  allow  for  a  full   analysis  of  the  unemployment                                                                    
insurance (UI) mainframe. The current  mainframe was over 30                                                                    
years old  and used a  program language called  COBOL, which                                                                    
was significantly  outdated and there were  a limited number                                                                    
of programmers with expertise in  the language. He explained                                                                    
that  the  department wanted  to  do  an analysis  prior  to                                                                    
asking for  significant funds for replacement  of the entire                                                                    
UI  mainframe.   The  analysis   would  take   inventory  of                                                                    
approximately     1,000    applications,     document    the                                                                    
requirements, and receive an  informed recommendation on the                                                                    
path  forward.  The  initial  funds  would  be  to  craft  a                                                                    
recommendation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski  stated that the  request sounded                                                                    
familiar,  but he  did not  recall hearing  about it  in the                                                                    
finance subcommittee. He asked if  it had been a request the                                                                    
previous year.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  answered that the department  did not request                                                                    
the funds the previous year.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  believed  Representative  Tomaszewski                                                                    
was thinking about  the Department of Health  (DOH) that had                                                                    
run off  COBOL for EIS  [Extend Internet System].  He stated                                                                    
that DOH  had started AIRES  with an initial fiscal  note of                                                                    
$700,000. He stressed that the  program had used $70 million                                                                    
in  federal and  state funding  and still  did not  work. He                                                                    
implored DLWD to pick a  software system that was tested and                                                                    
worked.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:17:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Munoz responded  that the  purpose of                                                                    
the request  was to ensure  the department picked  the right                                                                    
program and infrastructure in order  to avoid going down the                                                                    
wrong path.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  the  department  to ensure  the                                                                    
system worked before the state paid for it.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee Munoz  agreed to make sure  the system                                                                    
worked before the state paid for it.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   DeBartolo  discussed   the   Division  of   Vocational                                                                    
Rehabilitation (DVR) on  slide 9. He relayed  that each year                                                                    
the division  helped hundreds of Alaskans  with disabilities                                                                    
prepare for, obtain, and keep  good jobs. He elaborated that                                                                    
if  Alaskans  with  disabilities  wanted  to  work  or  keep                                                                    
working  and they  had a  physical, intellectual,  or mental                                                                    
condition that made  it difficult, they may  be eligible for                                                                    
the   department's    vocational   rehabilitation   program.                                                                    
Additionally,  the Mature  Alaskans Seeking  Skills Training                                                                    
program  (MASST)  enabled  Alaskans  over 55  years  old  to                                                                    
receive assistance  seeking jobs or gain  employment skills.                                                                    
He  highlighted that  DVR was  primarily  funded by  federal                                                                    
dollars  with   the  majority  of  state   UGF  representing                                                                    
matching   funds.  He   detailed  that   in  FY   23,  1,951                                                                    
individuals  with  disabilities   received  services,  1,782                                                                    
individuals received information  and referral services, and                                                                    
292  individuals had  exited the  program  as employed.  The                                                                    
average hourly  wage for  DVR clients  was $18.66  for those                                                                    
who  exited   the  program  in  FY   23.  Additionally,  the                                                                    
Disability  Determination  Services  Section  achieved  97.9                                                                    
percent performance  accuracy, which was best  in the nation                                                                    
for  the  second consecutive  year.  He  noted the  national                                                                    
average was 94 percent.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  addressed the department's one  FY 25 funding                                                                    
request  for DVR  (summarized as  item  4 on  slide 11).  He                                                                    
explained that  the administration component within  DVR was                                                                    
funded through a  federal indirect rate based  on the number                                                                    
of  filled positions  at  a point  in time.  Due  to a  high                                                                    
vacancy   rate    in   client   services    and   disability                                                                    
determination sections,  it was  24 percent and  37 percent,                                                                    
respectively. Consequently,  DVR had been unable  to collect                                                                    
$211,000 in  federal indirect revenue  in the past  year and                                                                    
the division had  an estimated need of  a one-time increment                                                                    
of $97,000  in general funds  for FY 25 to  continue funding                                                                    
its  filled  administrative  positions. The  department  was                                                                    
requesting a one-time increment  with the anticipation of an                                                                    
improved vacancy  rate. The entire  Disability Determination                                                                    
Services Section  was under a  job classification  review by                                                                    
the  DOA Division  of Personnel,  which DLWD  believed would                                                                    
result  in some  positions being  classed appropriately.  He                                                                    
noted it should make filling the positions much easier.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe stated  her understanding  that the                                                                    
department could have gotten more  federal funding but there                                                                    
were not enough people [staff] to get the funding.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo agreed. He explained  that the federal formula                                                                    
required  the  positions  to be  filled.  From  the  federal                                                                    
government's perspective  if the  positions were  not filled                                                                    
it  meant   the  commensurate   admin  could  go   away.  He                                                                    
elaborated that there were only  a handful of admin staff in                                                                    
a division  like DVR. There  was still  work to be  done and                                                                    
the department was trying to avoid laying people off.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:22:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  asked why it  was not all  paid for                                                                    
with federal funding.  She asked if there were  parts of the                                                                    
positions that could not be paid with federal funds.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo answered  that federal  funding received  for                                                                    
client services  and the other services  within DVR required                                                                    
a state match.  He noted that the majority of  the UGF shown                                                                    
on slide 9 was matching funding.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  asked for the total  matching funds                                                                    
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  asked if  Representative Coulombe  was asking                                                                    
for the percentage or dollar amount.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  replied she  was interested  in the                                                                    
dollar amount.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DUANE    MAYES,    DIRECTOR,    DIVISION    OF    VOCATIONAL                                                                    
REHABILITATION,   DEPARTMENT   OF    LABOR   AND   WORKFORCE                                                                    
DEVELOPMENT (via teleconference),  answered that the federal                                                                    
award  was  about  79  percent  [of  the  DVR  funding]  and                                                                    
matching state funds were about  21 percent. He could follow                                                                    
up with more information.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  DeBartolo  discussed  the Alaska  Vocational  Technical                                                                    
Center (AVTEC)  budget on slide  10. The center  was located                                                                    
in Seward  and was the  only 24/7 facility within  DLWD. The                                                                    
center's mission  was to  deliver flexible,  accessible, and                                                                    
affordable  workforce training  that  is  responsive to  the                                                                    
dynamic needs  of business and industry  and served Alaska's                                                                    
diverse  communities.  The  center   was  funded  through  a                                                                    
combination of  tuition and  fees, UGF,  DGF, and  TVEP. The                                                                    
center's  training was  offered  as  a workplace  simulation                                                                    
model where students spent all  day in training with most of                                                                    
their time spent  applying and practicing skills  in shop as                                                                    
if  on  the job.  There  were  90  and 180-day  terms  where                                                                    
students  received 600  to 1,200  hours  of direct  hands-on                                                                    
training  at  half  the  cost  and  one-third  the  time  of                                                                    
traditional postsecondary  institutions. Over 90  percent of                                                                    
the students who  came to AVTEC completed  training and over                                                                    
90  percent  of  those  students  were  employed  within  18                                                                    
months.  Only 6.7  percent of  AVTEC  students used  student                                                                    
loans  with  an  average  debt  load  of  about  $6,132  per                                                                    
student.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  pointed out  AVTEC highlights  for FY  23. He                                                                    
relayed that  over 100 high school  students participated in                                                                    
the  introduction to  nautical skills  class. He  elaborated                                                                    
that a partnership with  Trident Seafoods offered customized                                                                    
training  for their  facilities  and maintenance  employees.                                                                    
Additionally,  AVTEC  completed  a process  to  establish  a                                                                    
federally    registered   apprenticeship    in   information                                                                    
technology, which was  the first and only one  in the state.                                                                    
Capacity  had been  increased  at  AVTEC's welding  facility                                                                    
because  it  was  one  of   the  center's  most  high-demand                                                                    
programs.  He  informed  the committee  that  AVTEC  had  no                                                                    
budget proposals for FY 25.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster considered that the  TVEP program was set to                                                                    
sunset and asked how much of AVTEC's budget came from TVEP.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Munoz replied  that it  was about  17                                                                    
percent of the allocation or $2.7 million to AVTEC.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  asked  for verification  that  it  was  17                                                                    
percent of the  TVEP allocation. He asked if  the number was                                                                    
included in the $5.3 million in  UGF funding or in the [$3.7                                                                    
million in] DGF funding [shown on slide 10].                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo replied that it was included.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:26:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. DeBartolo  noted that  slides 11  and 12  were reference                                                                    
slides  for  the  proposed   operating  and  capital  budget                                                                    
changes  he had  discussed throughout  the presentation.  He                                                                    
addressed one remaining  item shown on slide 12  that he had                                                                    
not  yet  discussed.  Funding   for  the  department's  STEP                                                                    
program  was   competitively  granted  through   the  Alaska                                                                    
Workforce Investment  Board. The calculations  for available                                                                    
revenue  were  redone multiple  times  per  year. The  slide                                                                    
included a  request for  additional authority  in the  FY 24                                                                    
supplemental to  distribute additional funds to  grantees to                                                                    
use  for  training.  The  slide also  showed  a  request  to                                                                    
increase the total available allocation  for FY 25. He noted                                                                    
that the applications for FY 25 would be coming in soon.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  looked at the  ~$1.6 million  increment for                                                                    
STEP in FY 25. He asked  how much the total STEP grants were                                                                    
in FY 23.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Munoz  answered  that the  total  was                                                                    
approximately  $7 million  per year.  She explained  that $6                                                                    
million went to  the competitive grant process  and about $1                                                                    
million went to the job  centers for individual training and                                                                    
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  thanked  the  department  for  the                                                                    
AVTEC  tour  the past  summer.  She  described AVTEC  as  an                                                                    
amazing facility.  She asked about the  department's funding                                                                    
increases to  facilities maintenance.  She noted  that every                                                                    
department that  maintained a facility was  looking for some                                                                    
increase.  She  remarked  that the  governor's  request  was                                                                    
about $15  million for  AVTEC. She asked  for the  number of                                                                    
students in AVTEC and the capacity.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner-Designee  Munoz answered  that  the number  was                                                                    
much greater  than the  number of  students on  site because                                                                    
AVTEC did outreach training to  employers to design employer                                                                    
specific  trainings. She  thought  the number  was close  to                                                                    
1,000. She deferred  the question to the  AVTEC director for                                                                    
more detail.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:29:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATHY  LECOMPTE,   DIRECTOR,  ALASKA   VOCATIONAL  TEHCNICAL                                                                    
CENTER, DEPARTMENT  OF LABOR AND WORKFORCE  DEVELOPMENT (via                                                                    
teleconference), answered  that between the  Alaska Maritime                                                                    
Training  Center and  the  nine  accredited programs,  AVTEC                                                                    
served over 1,200 students annually.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe asked how  many of the students were                                                                    
physically on the AVTEC campus or staying in Seward.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. LeCompte replied that the  students all stayed in Seward                                                                    
in the AVTEC  dormitories, ate in the  cafeterias, and lived                                                                    
on campus. Training for the  maritime center ranged from one                                                                    
day to  12 weeks. The  accredited programs ranged  from four                                                                    
to eight months.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster    thanked   the   department    for   the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:31:19 PM                                                                                                                    
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^OVERVIEW:  FY  25 BUDGET  BY  THE  DEPARTMENT OF  COMMERCE,                                                                  
COMMUNITY, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:32:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIE   SANDE,   COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT   OF   COMMERCE,                                                                    
COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT,  was  honored  to  be                                                                    
present to  represent the Department of  Commerce, Community                                                                    
and Economic  Development. She  described the  department as                                                                    
the "little engine that could"  and explained that DCCED was                                                                    
small but had many things  under its purview. She introduced                                                                    
colleagues  at   the  table.   She  provided   a  PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation  titled "Department  Overview: FY2025  Budget,"                                                                    
dated  March  1,  2024  (copy on  file).  She  reviewed  the                                                                    
department's  mission  on  slide  2  to  promote  a  healthy                                                                    
economy,  strong  communities,   and  to  protect  consumers                                                                    
through  the department's  seven  core  divisions and  eight                                                                    
corporate agencies.  She turned  to the department structure                                                                    
on  slide 3.  The grey  boxes reflected  the core  divisions                                                                    
including  Administrative  Services,  the  Alaska  Broadband                                                                    
Office,  Banking  and  Securities,  Community  and  Regional                                                                    
Affairs,    Corporations,   Businesses    and   Professional                                                                    
Licensing, Investments,  and Insurance.  She noted  that the                                                                    
department  had  taken on  the  Broadband  Office two  years                                                                    
back. The teal boxes  reflected the corporate agencies under                                                                    
the department including the  Alaska Energy Authority (AEA),                                                                    
Alaska Industrial Development  and Export Authority (AIDEA),                                                                    
Alaska  Gasline Development  Corporation (AGDC),  Alaska Oil                                                                    
and  Gas  Conservation  Commission (AOGCC),  Alaska  Seafood                                                                    
Marketing  Institute (ASMI),  Alcohol and  Marijuana Control                                                                    
Office (AMCO),  the Regulatory  Commission of  Alaska (RCA),                                                                    
and the  Alaska Railroad  Corporation. She noted  the Alaska                                                                    
Railroad Corporation fell outside the Executive Budget Act.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HANNAH LAGER,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES  DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  COMMERCE, COMMUNITY  AND ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT, reviewed                                                                    
the FY  25 governor budget  on slide  4. She pointed  to the                                                                    
bar  chart in  the  upper  right portion  of  the slide  and                                                                    
highlighted  that  DCCED  had  been  home  to  a  number  of                                                                    
different  special   appropriations  over  the   years.  She                                                                    
remarked  that sometimes  when looking  back  at prior  year                                                                    
actuals  or activity  there were  some items  in the  budget                                                                    
that meant  the comparisons were  not apples to  apples. The                                                                    
department  received  $185  million  in  federal  authority,                                                                    
which  was primarily  passed through  to local  communities.                                                                    
Additionally,  the  department received  seafood  processors                                                                    
grants it issued over that  past year that caused a one-time                                                                    
bump in the  department's budget. She pointed  to the yellow                                                                    
portion  of a  pie  chart in  the upper  left  of the  slide                                                                    
reflecting designated  general funds (DGF). The  bulk of the                                                                    
department's  budget was  funded  from receipts  collections                                                                    
and licensing  fees collected from the  industries regulated                                                                    
by the department. She elaborated  that people had to pay to                                                                    
be licensed  and the  department used the  funds to  pay for                                                                    
the  operations.  She  pointed  to the  small  blue  segment                                                                    
reflecting undesignated general funds  (UGF). She noted that                                                                    
DCCED was the smallest consumer of UGF in the state.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:37:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager provided  a historical budget lookback  from FY 17                                                                    
to FY 25  on slide 5. She highlighted  that the department's                                                                    
UGF spending  was down from where  it had been in  FY 17 and                                                                    
more  dramatically down  from where  it  had been  10 to  15                                                                    
years  back. She  briefly pointed  to a  swoop chart  titled                                                                    
"FY2025  Operating UGF  by Department"  on  slide 6  showing                                                                    
that DCCED  was the smallest  consumer of UGF in  the state.                                                                    
She  turned  to  slide  7 "Fund  Sources  and  Divisions  by                                                                    
Department." She believed  when focusing just on  the UGF it                                                                    
missed  some  of  the  complexity  in  the  department.  The                                                                    
department was small and efficient,  but it was also home to                                                                    
the highest  number of funding  sources of any  state agency                                                                    
as well as  the highest number of  divisions. The department                                                                    
housed   15   agencies   in  addition   to   other   special                                                                    
appropriations; the department was small, but complicated.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  highlighted that the  department only  spent just                                                                    
over $10  million and  it had  collected and  deposited over                                                                    
$100  million in  FY  23. She  relayed  that the  department                                                                    
generated revenue,  the bulk of which  was insurance premium                                                                    
taxes  in addition  to  some other  small  slices that  were                                                                    
deposited into the general fund each year.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  began reviewing budget  changes for  DCCED's core                                                                    
divisions  on  slide  10 starting  with  the  commissioner's                                                                    
office. The department received  a $50,000 federal award for                                                                    
FY  24. The  slide  showed  a request  of  $50,000 in  state                                                                    
matching funds  for the FY  24 supplemental and  $50,000 for                                                                    
the FY  25 budget.  The department  was also  requesting two                                                                    
positions at a  salary range 8 and 10  to create educational                                                                    
opportunities  for students  to work  at the  department and                                                                    
learn how  to get into  state government. The goal  was also                                                                    
to create a pipeline to bring people into DCCED.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:40:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  turned to  slide 11  and reviewed  budget changes                                                                    
for the Division of  Administrative Services. The department                                                                    
was adding one  accountant position in FY  25. She explained                                                                    
that DCCED  had taken on a  number of new programs  over the                                                                    
past  several  years  including AOGCC  in  FY  19,  multiple                                                                    
steams  of federal  and  non-federal  COVID-19 funding,  and                                                                    
broadband  funding.  The  position  would  help  manage  the                                                                    
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  moved  to  slide 12  and  discussed  the  Alaska                                                                    
Broadband Office  budget. The purpose  of the office  was to                                                                    
ensure  there was  broadband access  for  all Alaskans.  The                                                                    
office  was currently  undertaking planning  activities. She                                                                    
elaborated that the office was  making certain the state had                                                                    
good maps  showing served, unserved, and  underserved areas.                                                                    
The office  was working with  partners to plan  for incoming                                                                    
funding, setting  up grant programs, and  receiving feedback                                                                    
on the process  to ensure it was not missing  any pieces and                                                                    
that  the  planned  projects were  responsive  to  community                                                                    
needs.  In  FY  25,  large federal  capital  budget  dollars                                                                    
exceeding  $1 billion  would flow  into  the department  for                                                                    
grants  to the  Broadband  Equity  Access Deployment  (BEAD)                                                                    
program and  the Digital Equity Program.  The projects would                                                                    
go into  implementation and  the department  anticipated the                                                                    
first deployments to be complete as soon as FY 28.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin observed  the  large  amount of  work                                                                    
done  by  the  department.  She  asked  if  the  anticipated                                                                    
completion  in FY  28 was  because  the funds  were not  yet                                                                    
coming in  or because it  took that long for  the particular                                                                    
project in terms of scope.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager anticipated the first  grants going out in fall of                                                                    
2024. She  stated it took  some time and the  projects would                                                                    
primarily   be   capital   projects  to   extend   broadband                                                                    
infrastructure out.  The projects  would need  to correspond                                                                    
with construction seasons and parts and supplies ordered.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:42:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  turned to slide  13 and continued to  discuss the                                                                    
broadband  office.   She  remarked  that  there   were  many                                                                    
different pots of federal funding  for broadband coming into                                                                    
Alaska. She highlighted  the yellow box shown at  the top of                                                                    
the  slide  reflecting  funding coming  through  DCCED.  The                                                                    
Broadband  Equity Access  Deployment included  slightly over                                                                    
$1 billion in  federal funding coming to  DCCED. The Digital                                                                    
Equity Program could bring up  to $15 million. Additionally,                                                                    
the  department had  received a  small Economic  Development                                                                    
Administration statewide  planning grant  a couple  of years                                                                    
back that was funding  some planning activities that federal                                                                    
funds  did not  cover. The  department also  had Coronavirus                                                                    
Capital Projects  funds, which were  previously appropriated                                                                    
to  the  Office of  Management  and  Budget (OMB)  and  were                                                                    
passing through  DCCED for  grant administration.  She noted                                                                    
there were federal funds coming  in for many other entities.                                                                    
The  link at  the bottom  of the  slide included  additional                                                                    
information   for  other   federal  funding   available  for                                                                    
broadband.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:43:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager advanced to slide  14 and continued to discuss the                                                                    
broadband  office FY  25 budget.  The  funds were  primarily                                                                    
from  capital  improvement   project  receipts  because  the                                                                    
broadband  appropriations were  capital  in  nature and  the                                                                    
department was  running operating activity from  the capital                                                                    
projects. The  first two items were  technical and reflected                                                                    
a  continuation of  prior-year funding.  The department  was                                                                    
also adding  a project coordinator and  contractual support.                                                                    
She stressed the funding amounts  were substantial and there                                                                    
were numerous  milestones and  projects. The  position would                                                                    
help  the  department  track  and   report  on  the  funding                                                                    
appropriately.  The budget  included  funding for  broadband                                                                    
mapping and  program support  under a  reimbursable services                                                                    
agreement (RSA)  to the Division  of Community  and Regional                                                                    
Affairs (DCRA). She explained that  the broadband office was                                                                    
small  and  only housed  five  positions  without a  lot  of                                                                    
capacity  to learn  mapping. The  mapping  staff under  DCRA                                                                    
would take  on the  responsibility. She  looked at  the last                                                                    
two  items on  the slide  for permit  coordination in  other                                                                    
departments  and   right-of-way  permit   coordinators.  She                                                                    
explained  that  both  were working  with  other  permitting                                                                    
agencies  to  fund  likely  up to  six  positions  in  other                                                                    
agencies. She detailed that some  would go the Department of                                                                    
Transportation and  Public Facilities  (DOT) and  some would                                                                    
go to the Department of  Natural Resources (DNR). She stated                                                                    
that depending  on the projects  moving forward it  may look                                                                    
like DCCED needed permitting support  from the Department of                                                                    
Fish  and  Game (DFG)  or  the  Department of  Environmental                                                                    
Conservation (DEC).  The idea was  to plan ahead  to support                                                                    
planning activities.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  referenced federal  funding sources                                                                    
Ms. Lager had discussed on slide  13. She asked how much the                                                                    
department had received for broadband in FY 24.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  answered  that  funds  received  through  FY  24                                                                    
related to  the initial  BEAD planning grant.  She explained                                                                    
that the  federal grant provided  the state with  $5 million                                                                    
over a multiyear  period and the department was  on year two                                                                    
of the funding  to support planning activities.  The bulk of                                                                    
the BEAD funding would come in FY 25.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe asked  if she  was referring  to FY                                                                    
25.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager replied affirmatively.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:46:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  discussed the Division of  Banking and Securities                                                                    
budget  on slide  15. She  noted there  were no  significant                                                                    
budget changes in  the division for FY 25.  The division was                                                                    
important  to  the  department  and  provided  an  essential                                                                    
service  to the  state's economy  ensuring there  were safe,                                                                    
functioning  banks, and  helping to  protect consumers  from                                                                    
financial harm.  Over the  past year  the division  had been                                                                    
working  on  a large  prosecution  Tycoon  Trading Co.  that                                                                    
impacted over  140 Alaskans who  experienced $26  million in                                                                    
losses.  The   actions  taken  through  the   division  were                                                                    
impactful for individuals in addition  to the work it did to                                                                    
support  the framework  of the  economy.  The division  also                                                                    
regulated some of the more  unique financial tools including                                                                    
mobile   payment  apps   (e.g.,   Venmo   and  PayPal)   and                                                                    
cryptocurrency.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski asked  how  the department  knew                                                                    
the  number of  people  buying  cryptocurrency. He  remarked                                                                    
that it was on a secure ledger.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager responded  that she did not have  the exact answer                                                                    
of how it  was done. The Division of  Banking and Securities                                                                    
worked   closely   with  national   organizations   tracking                                                                    
cryptocurrency on a  larger level. She would  follow up with                                                                    
more detail.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  thought it was  likely a  very conservative                                                                    
number. For example, Coinbase did  a lot of its required tax                                                                    
stuff. He  did not know  that Alaska  had access to  the IRS                                                                    
documentation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson  responded   that  Director   Robert                                                                    
Schmidt  would follow  up with  a thorough  response to  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:48:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan looked at slide  15 and asked what the                                                                    
one state-chartered credit union was.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  believed it was  Credit Union One, but  she would                                                                    
follow up to confirm.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  addressed  the  DCRA budget  on  slide  16.  The                                                                    
division  focused  on  maintaining  strong  communities  and                                                                    
healthy  economies.  She stated  it  was  necessary to  have                                                                    
functioning communities  for the economy to  work. The slide                                                                    
listed a  number of different  programs under  the division.                                                                    
She  highlighted  a QR  code  which  directed users  to  the                                                                    
community   database,  which   included   digital  data   on                                                                    
communities such as local leadership, population, and more.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:49:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager moved  to slide 17 and continued  to discuss DCRA.                                                                    
The division  ran a $1.2  billion grant  portfolio annually.                                                                    
The FY  24 supplemental  included $3  million for  grants to                                                                    
food  banks  and  food  pantries  across  Alaska.  The  base                                                                    
operating budget  included a $400,000 grant  to Alaska Legal                                                                    
Services  (the same  amount  from the  general  fund as  the                                                                    
previous  year)  and  a  $296,000   grant  to  Alaska  Legal                                                                    
Services  Corporation from  the  Civil  Legal Services  Fund                                                                    
based on a  formula for prior year civil  collections by the                                                                    
Alaska  Court System.  She  highlighted  a $185,000  general                                                                    
fund  increment  for  the  Alaska  Marine  Safety  Education                                                                    
Association. She noted the increment  was a slight reduction                                                                    
from  FY 24.  She elaborated  that DCCED  was switching  the                                                                    
grant  over  to  be  based  on  the  amount  of  prior  year                                                                    
collections. The  funding source  would be general  funds in                                                                    
FY  25 and  the  following year  the  department would  have                                                                    
prior year  collections to appropriate and  the source would                                                                    
switch back to boat receipts.  The department wanted to make                                                                    
the amount predictable for grantees;  it had varied over the                                                                    
years and the grantee had to  wait until near the end of the                                                                    
year  when  the department  knew  how  much it  received  to                                                                    
finalize the grant.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager continued  to review the DCRA budget  on slide 17.                                                                    
She  highlighted  a  grant to  Life  Alaska  Donor  Services                                                                    
funded by  the Anatomical  Gift Awareness  Fund in  the same                                                                    
amount as FY  24. The last increment  was [$185,000] general                                                                    
funds for  the Kuskokwim Ice Road  at the same amount  as in                                                                    
FY 24.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:51:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster asked  about  the  $3 million  supplemental                                                                    
increment  for the  food banks.  He  asked if  the food  had                                                                    
already been  purchased and  distributed and  the department                                                                    
was backfilling for funds that were used elsewhere.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager answered  that it was a new grant  program for the                                                                    
current  fiscal  year.  She  agreed  it  would  be  a  tight                                                                    
timeline. The grant would go  to organizations to fund their                                                                    
opportunities.  The department  was still  working on  grant                                                                    
program requirements. She  thought it was a  fair point made                                                                    
by Co-Chair  Foster that there  would not  be a lot  of time                                                                    
for entities to  purchase new food, and funding  may need to                                                                    
be retroactive for those agencies.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp stated that  the previous year the food                                                                    
bank  funding had  been through  DFG and  included something                                                                    
like four  RSAs where the  funds ended up in  the Department                                                                    
of   Health    (DOH)   commissioner's   office    prior   to                                                                    
distribution.  He  asked if  the  FY  24 supplemental  funds                                                                    
going through DCCED would include  three RSAs where agencies                                                                    
took  funding off  the top  prior  to going  to food  banks.                                                                    
Alternatively, he  asked if  the funding  would go  to DCCED                                                                    
for direct distribution to food banks.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  answered that the  funds would come to  DCCED for                                                                    
direct distribution to food banks.  The grants section was a                                                                    
small  team with  ten grant  administrators  and one  grants                                                                    
administration  manager.   She  stressed  that   the  grants                                                                    
section  was  very  good  at   the  job  and  there  was  no                                                                    
administrative fee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  thanked the  department. He  asked why                                                                    
the FY  25 food  bank money  was in the  DOH budget  and not                                                                    
under DCCED. He did not expect an answer.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  asked where  the grants  were going                                                                    
specifically.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager answered  that the  department was  designing the                                                                    
grant program  to be  as far reaching  as possible  for food                                                                    
banks  and  food  pantries. The  grants  may  include  small                                                                    
organizations  that had  not  traditionally received  grants                                                                    
such as  a small pantry  in a church. The  department wanted                                                                    
to ensure  funds were  available to  organizations providing                                                                    
food to their communities.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  asked  for verification  that  the                                                                    
grant would  be going from DCCED  in the form of  money, not                                                                    
food.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager agreed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager finished with slide  17. She highlighted a QR code                                                                    
on the  slide that  directed users  to the  grants dashboard                                                                    
showing  grants and  their  financial  status by  community,                                                                    
organization, and year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:54:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  turned  to  slide 18  and  continued  to  review                                                                    
changes in  the DCRA  budget. She briefly  mentioned changes                                                                    
she  had  previously  discussed pertaining  to  Civil  Legal                                                                    
Services   and   the    Alaska   Marine   Safety   Education                                                                    
Association.   The  department   was   adding  two   program                                                                    
coordinators to work with  federal disaster recovery grants.                                                                    
The  division  was  responsible for  administering  disaster                                                                    
recovery  grants  for  the  state  including  the  Community                                                                    
Development Block Grant  disaster recoveries. The department                                                                    
had  received two  of the  large awards  both exceeding  $30                                                                    
million   for   earthquake   relief   and   Typhoon   Merbok                                                                    
activities.   The   department   was  adding   the   program                                                                    
coordinators recognizing it needed  the appropriate staff to                                                                    
ensure funds  were going  out timely.  The slide  included a                                                                    
new research  analyst position for  broadband support  to be                                                                    
paid for  by the broadband  office. The blue portion  of the                                                                    
table  at  the  bottom  of   the  slide  pertained  to  fund                                                                    
capitalizations that  related to  DCRA. The  first increment                                                                    
indicated  moving  funding  out   of  the  general  fund  to                                                                    
capitalize  the Civil  Legal Services  Fund.  The last  line                                                                    
showed the  capitalization of the Community  Assistance Fund                                                                    
with   $30  million   as  a   combination   of  Power   Cost                                                                    
Equalization (PCE) endowment funds and general funds.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster  asked   if  it   brought  the   Community                                                                    
Assistance Fund  back up to  the standard $90 million  or if                                                                    
the balance would be $60 million.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  answered that the  capitalization would  occur in                                                                    
FY  25,  meaning it  would  impact  the FY  26  distribution                                                                    
because  of the  way the  statutory calculation  worked. She                                                                    
did not know what the precise  fund balance would be, but it                                                                    
would allow  for a $20 million  distribution in FY 25  and a                                                                    
distribution of approximately $23 million in FY 26.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked the department  to follow up with what                                                                    
the fund  balance would be.  He explained that  the standard                                                                    
would  be  $90  million  to  get the  full  amount  out  [to                                                                    
communities].                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  recalled that under  statute one-third                                                                    
of the fund  was distributed, which would  mean $30 million.                                                                    
He surmised it [the fund] would not be capitalized.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster calculated  that one-third  of $60  million                                                                    
was $20 million.  He asked the department to double check.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager agreed to follow up with the information.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:56:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager moved  to slide 19 and  finished reviewing changes                                                                    
in the DCRA budget. The  slide showed the supplemental funds                                                                    
for food pantries and an  FY 25 increment for natural hazard                                                                    
planning assistance.  The department  heard from  the Alaska                                                                    
Native Tribal  Health Consortium (ANTHC) that  it received a                                                                    
federal award  it would like  to partner on with  DCCED. The                                                                    
award would pass  through DCCED to fund one  position over a                                                                    
three-year term  to help  communities document,  assess, and                                                                    
build awareness of  natural hazards. There were  a number of                                                                    
different federal grants communities  could qualify for that                                                                    
required the information as part of the application packet.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  returned to  the  topic  of the  Community                                                                    
Assistance Fund.  He believed that  when the fund  was short                                                                    
funded,  the  rural  communities  had  the  highest  funding                                                                    
priority. He asked how the  formula worked. Specifically, if                                                                    
the fund was  at $60 million, he  wondered which communities                                                                    
may not get part of  the community assistance. He assumed it                                                                    
would be Anchorage and Fairbanks  first. He requested follow                                                                    
up information.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager replied  that the department would  follow up with                                                                    
the  information. She  noted that  the Community  Assistance                                                                    
Fund calculation was based on  two general categories. There                                                                    
was a base  payment that went to communities  in addition to                                                                    
a  per  capita payment.  She  stated  that $20  million  was                                                                    
roughly  the  mark where  smaller  communities  began to  be                                                                    
impacted a bit more.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  turned to slide  20 titled "Serve  Alaska." Serve                                                                    
Alaska was located under DCRA  and the budget FY 25 included                                                                    
one  change to  increase its  federal receipt  authority for                                                                    
extended  federal grants.  The entity  received a  number of                                                                    
different  federal grants  to  promote  volunteerism in  the                                                                    
state  that ran  on  alternative fiscal  years  - some  were                                                                    
calendar years  - and were multiyear  awards. The department                                                                    
had been  unable to fully  encumber the awards or  make some                                                                    
of the payments and issue some  of the grants because it did                                                                    
not have the budget authority in the past.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  moved to  the budget  for CBPL  on slide  21. She                                                                    
noted it  was one  of the  department's larger  divisions by                                                                    
position number and program volume.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  asked about  Serve Alaska  on slide                                                                    
20. She  thought it sounded  like it was a  federal program,                                                                    
but the budget included $236,000  UGF. She noted the program                                                                    
was tasked with promoting  volunteerism. She asked what that                                                                    
meant and how the money was spent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager answered  that it  was a  federal program  with a                                                                    
small  amount of  matching funds.  The Serve  Alaska program                                                                    
promoted  volunteerism  in  a   variety  of  ways  including                                                                    
managing the  AmeriCorps program  for the state  by bringing                                                                    
in  volunteers and  passing the  federal funding  through to                                                                    
pay for  the volunteers  in order  for organizations  to get                                                                    
volunteers for free.  The program also had  the Serve Alaska                                                                    
Commission, which was a 30  or so person commission aimed at                                                                    
guiding   activity  and   focus   on   different  types   of                                                                    
volunteerism  and volunteer  promotion  that  would be  most                                                                    
impactful for the state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:00:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Coulombe   asked   if  the   program   paid                                                                    
volunteers  to come  to Alaska.  She asked  for verification                                                                    
that volunteers worked for free.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  answered that  there  was  federal funding  that                                                                    
provided stipends  to volunteers,  which made  it affordable                                                                    
for individuals.  She elaborated that  AmeriCorps volunteers                                                                    
were placed in  a wide variety of  programs. She highlighted                                                                    
work in youth robotic programs  and in the Department of Law                                                                    
done by volunteers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe asked  if AmeriCorps  accounted for                                                                    
the  bulk of  the funding.  She  asked if  there were  other                                                                    
organizations giving stipends to volunteers.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager answered that the  majority of the funding for the                                                                    
program  came  from  the federal  Center  for  National  and                                                                    
Community   Services.  She   believed  the   bulk  was   the                                                                    
AmeriCorps program. She  would follow up with a  list of all                                                                    
of the grantees.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:01:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  continued with the  CBPL budget on slide  21. The                                                                    
division  housed  45  programs. She  believed  the  division                                                                    
touched   almost  every   Alaskan;   it  included   business                                                                    
licensing,  professional   licenses,  midwives,  morticians,                                                                    
etcetera. She  highlighted that  the number  of professional                                                                    
licensees  had   increased  every   year.  The   number  had                                                                    
increased  by 64  percent  in ten  years,  which was  pretty                                                                    
remarkable growth.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  received  a  lot  of  questions  and                                                                    
suggestions about the  area in her office.  For example, the                                                                    
length  of  time  individuals  had  been  waiting  for  some                                                                    
licenses  more  than  others.  She  had  recently  met  with                                                                    
someone  from  the  department who  helped  to  explain  the                                                                    
situation, but she was interested  in having the information                                                                    
on the  record. She stated  there had been  substantial buzz                                                                    
in  the   Capitol  Building  pertaining  to   licensing  and                                                                    
concerns about the wait times.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  replied  it   was  a  priority  of  the                                                                    
governor's when she took the  position three years back. She                                                                    
had  learned   that  legislators   were  unified   in  their                                                                    
frustration  over licensing  times  and that  they were  all                                                                    
hearing about  it from their  constituents. It had  been her                                                                    
job to look at what was broken  and to work with the team on                                                                    
determining  the easiest  fixes first.  She shared  that she                                                                    
was lucky to have support  from the governor and legislature                                                                    
and she believed every one  of the legislators meant it when                                                                    
they  asked  how  they  could   help.  She  hoped  that  the                                                                    
decreased  number   of  outraged  phone   calls  legislators                                                                    
received  was  an indicator  of  the  progress made  by  the                                                                    
department. She  relayed that  one of  the first  things she                                                                    
had done was ask the individuals  on the team how they would                                                                    
solve  the problems.  Staff had  provided input  on ways  to                                                                    
reduce the duplication of  efforts, increase efficiency, and                                                                    
improve antiquated systems.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  relayed  the governor  had  offered  an                                                                    
administrative  order  to  help  with  some  of  the  issues                                                                    
immediately.  There were  also  longer  fixes. She  believed                                                                    
some   of  the   improvements  witnessed   were  remarkable,                                                                    
particularly   with  nursing,   considering  the   level  of                                                                    
vacancies on the  department's team in the  past. She stated                                                                    
that  it had  been a  perfect storm  post-COVID. One  of the                                                                    
first  things the  department did  was  take a  look at  the                                                                    
volume and  there had  been a 62.4  percent increase  in the                                                                    
number  of licenses  issued over  ten  years. She  estimated                                                                    
that  during  that  time,  the  number  of  staff  had  only                                                                    
increased by  about 7 percent. Additionally,  there had been                                                                    
numerous   vacancies  post-COVID.   She  characterized   the                                                                    
situation as a  "death spiral" that had  occurred within the                                                                    
division. Additionally,  frustrated business  owners needing                                                                    
employees and  individuals trying  to get  to work  had been                                                                    
calling DCCED. She stated it  had been heartbreaking for the                                                                    
DCCED  team who  put their  hearts into  the work  they were                                                                    
doing, but  as people were  leaving it was getting  more and                                                                    
more difficult to retain. She was  proud of the work done by                                                                    
CBPL  Director Sylvan  Robb. She  highlighted that  the wait                                                                    
for a nursing license had reduced  from 13 to 5 weeks, which                                                                    
was   an  incredible   improvement.  The   department  still                                                                    
believed five weeks  was too long and it was  working to get                                                                    
the number down further.  The department had been advocating                                                                    
for  the  nurse  licensure compact  because  without  adding                                                                    
additional  staff   the  department  could   move  personnel                                                                    
focused on  licensing nurses over to  other professions such                                                                    
as contractors. The department had  taken a look at the easy                                                                    
fixes   it  could   make  and   it  had   communicated  with                                                                    
legislators and  the governor  on other  things that  may be                                                                    
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:06:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin believed  that a  7 percent  increase                                                                    
sounded like  a low  price to  pay. She  stated that  if the                                                                    
department needed  more money to  reduce the  five-week wait                                                                    
it would  be money  well spent.  She thanked  the department                                                                    
for its  efforts and for the  improvements. She communicated                                                                    
that legislators were available to help.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson was  surprised not  to see  larger                                                                    
general fund request due to  the governor's executive orders                                                                    
to move things in-house. He asked for an explanation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager answered  that there were statements  of costs the                                                                    
department could provide that  were related to the executive                                                                    
orders.  She  explained  that  they  were  a  bit  different                                                                    
mechanism and not  quite a piece of legislation  and did not                                                                    
have a  traditional fiscal note.  The statement of  cost was                                                                    
not currently included in the  budget. She stated the impact                                                                    
was  fairly  small   and  she  would  follow   up  with  the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked for the cost estimate.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  estimated it  was  less  than $150,000  for  the                                                                    
division.  She  noted  the  amount   was  fairly  small  and                                                                    
pertained mostly to technical items.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if  the three  executive orders                                                                    
related  to licensure  boards  came at  the  request of  the                                                                    
department  after   its  analysis   about  how   to  address                                                                    
licensure delays.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Sande  asked Representative Hannan  to rephrase                                                                    
the question.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan clarified her question.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Sande   answered,   "It   is   complex,   but                                                                    
absolutely." She shared  that when she started  the job, she                                                                    
thought  it  was as  simple  as  understanding the  problem,                                                                    
identifying  a solution,  and  walking  away; however,  some                                                                    
pieces of  the delays were  not directly tied to  things she                                                                    
could  necessarily touch  in the  department. She  explained                                                                    
that  in  some cases  where  boards  and commissions  worked                                                                    
directly  with licensing,  delays  could  occur because  the                                                                    
board had an  insufficient number of members, or  it was not                                                                    
meeting regularly, or  it failed to meet  quorum. Under that                                                                    
circumstance  she was  unable to  go  to a  staff member  to                                                                    
solve  the problem.  She explained  that the  disconnect had                                                                    
been  new  information for  her.  Her  understanding of  the                                                                    
executive  orders  was the  goal  to  gain efficiencies  and                                                                    
reduce wait times wherever possible.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:10:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  remarked   that  three  professional                                                                    
licensing  boards   were  proposed   to  be   eliminated  by                                                                    
executive orders. She had heard  from constituencies and had                                                                    
had  conversations   with  DCCED   staff.  She   stated  her                                                                    
understanding  that one  of the  boards had  been unable  to                                                                    
make  quorum   sporadically  (the   Board  of   Barbers  and                                                                    
Hairdressers), but  the other two consistently  met and made                                                                    
quorum.  She   was  pushing   back  on   the  commissioner's                                                                    
statement that  the boards were  unable to meet.  She wanted                                                                    
to  know why  those  communities,  boards, and  professional                                                                    
license groups  were not involved  in any of  the discussion                                                                    
on how  to problem  solve and why  the executive  orders had                                                                    
been a  surprise to them.  She felt that  Commissioner Sande                                                                    
had  been   open  in   communicating  with   legislators  in                                                                    
meetings. One  of the  largest concerns  she had  heard from                                                                    
the groups  impacted by the  executive orders was  that they                                                                    
had learned  about the  executive orders  the day  they were                                                                    
announced. She  heard the commissioner saying  that when she                                                                    
took the  mission on  there was a  disconnect where  some of                                                                    
the people involved  were not allowed to  participate in how                                                                    
to  problem solve  a problem  the  commissioner thought  was                                                                    
obvious and legislators had expressed uniformity around.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande   appreciated  the  comments   and  that                                                                    
Representative Hannan was pushing  back. She shared that she                                                                    
had  not  been  directly  involved in  the  executive  order                                                                    
process; she had been involved  in the conversations and she                                                                    
understood the  intent behind them.  She believed  there was                                                                    
valid concern when  individuals who were directly  part of a                                                                    
process did not  have an opportunity to weigh  in in advance                                                                    
and the  department had heard  some of the  frustration. She                                                                    
underscored that  the department  was appreciative  of every                                                                    
board member  willing to  serve on  behalf of  Alaskans. She                                                                    
personally served  on 16 boards  and actively on 8  of them.                                                                    
She  relayed  that she  sat  next  to  board members  up  to                                                                    
several times  a week  and she  was regularly  impressed and                                                                    
inspired by the efforts board  members were taking on behalf                                                                    
of  Alaskans.   She  thought  it  was   unfortunate  if  the                                                                    
executive order  process did  not have  enough opportunities                                                                    
for individuals to  weigh in and she did not  believe it was                                                                    
reflective of how  the department felt about  the service of                                                                    
the board members.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  stated  that prior  to  Commissioner                                                                    
Sande's  tenure  with  the  department  there  had  been  an                                                                    
executive order  to divide the  former Department  of Health                                                                    
and Social  Services in  two. She  explained there  had been                                                                    
substantial pushback that had delayed  the split in favor of                                                                    
engagement  with  constituencies  involved prior  to  moving                                                                    
forward. She  noted the  pushback had  delayed the  split by                                                                    
almost two years. She had heard  reasons to do it, but there                                                                    
was strong  concern by people  serving on  functional boards                                                                    
who felt left  out of the process. She stated  it had become                                                                    
a political  football. She considered  that perhaps  she did                                                                    
not have  enough information from  the department's  side of                                                                    
the analysis on why the  executive orders should go forward,                                                                    
but it was  because the impacted people were  not engaged in                                                                    
the  analysis. She  believed it  was a  shame. She  reasoned                                                                    
that if  it was so logical  to make the change  and it would                                                                    
be  cheaper  and  more efficient,  licensees  would  not  be                                                                    
opposed.  She  elaborated  that everyone  with  professional                                                                    
licensure wanted the  money they spend to  be cost effective                                                                    
in a timely and predictable way.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Ortiz  congratulated   the  department   on                                                                    
bringing  down the  nurse licensure  timeframe. He  noted he                                                                    
also heard  about delays  in other  areas in  the healthcare                                                                    
field such  as physical therapy.  He asked about  gains that                                                                    
had been made  in areas outside the nursing  field. He noted                                                                    
that  62.4 percent  increase in  professional licenses  over                                                                    
the last  10 years reflected  rapid growth. He asked  if the                                                                    
department  was  capable  of handling  the  increase  if  it                                                                    
continued at that level.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Sande    addressed   Representative   Ortiz's                                                                    
question  about whether  the department  could keep  up with                                                                    
the work  if it continued  to grow. She was  concerned about                                                                    
the  issue as  well. She  relayed that  when the  department                                                                    
talked about the  executive orders it had first  gone to the                                                                    
team to see  if the proposal appeared to make  sense and how                                                                    
much work  it would create.  She shared that  the department                                                                    
was proud  of the work done  by Director Robb and  the prior                                                                    
CBPL director.  The last thing  the department wanted  to do                                                                    
was hinder gains that had been  made and she did not want to                                                                    
lose employees to another department.  She was protective of                                                                    
her team,  and she  would vocalize it  if something  did not                                                                    
seem  like a  good  fit  for the  department.  She had  been                                                                    
assured by her team that much  of the work was being done by                                                                    
the staff  and the  shift seemed  doable. She  remarked that                                                                    
the department  would not know  the result until  the change                                                                    
took place.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Sande  stated  there  was at  least  one  bill                                                                    
offered during  the current session where  they talked about                                                                    
an  additional professional  being  licensed. She  clarified                                                                    
that  she was  not for  or against  having more  professions                                                                    
licensed  and  it was  possible  to  argue both  sides.  She                                                                    
stated that it was always possible  to argue for the sake of                                                                    
safety   that  something   needed   to   be  licensed.   She                                                                    
appreciated it, but  it was necessary to  calculate how much                                                                    
work it would add and  whether the department could continue                                                                    
to sustain  or pay for  it. She  deferred to a  colleague to                                                                    
answer Representative Ortiz's first question.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:18:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICAELA   FOWLER,   DEPUTY   COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, answered that                                                                    
licensing  times   across  the  board  had   decreased  post                                                                    
pandemic  largely due  to more  successful hiring  in recent                                                                    
months.  She   noted  that  Ms.  Lager   would  provide  the                                                                    
committee with  information on DCCED's current  vacancy rate                                                                    
at  the end  of the  presentation. The  department had  also                                                                    
been  identifying  regulation  changes  it  could  enact  to                                                                    
improve its ability to license  more efficiently. She shared                                                                    
that a  three-month extension had  been implemented  for all                                                                    
programs when a license was  up for renewal once the renewal                                                                    
application  had been  received. She  explained that  one of                                                                    
the things  that was causing substantial  frustration during                                                                    
the pandemic  was licensees were  turning in  their renewals                                                                    
one  or  two  days  before their  license  expired  and  the                                                                    
license was not reviewed for renewal  for a month or so. The                                                                    
situation  resulted in  individuals being  unlicensed for  a                                                                    
period of time.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fowler  explained that the regulation  enabling licenses                                                                    
to automatically renew for three  months when an application                                                                    
was received  allowed staff to  work on new  licenses coming                                                                    
in  instead  of  putting  them  all  on  hold  to  focus  on                                                                    
renewals. The  staff were able  to work on renewals  as time                                                                    
allowed, which  had helped the  department bring  wait times                                                                    
down  for  new licensees  to  receive  licenses. There  were                                                                    
occasionally  issues   with  quorum  and   some  professions                                                                    
required  a board  to approve  a license,  while others  did                                                                    
not. The  department was also  anticipating that the  12 new                                                                    
positions in  the department's FY  24 budget would  speed up                                                                    
all  of  its  licensing   times.  The  department  was  very                                                                    
appreciative of the governor  and legislature for supporting                                                                    
the positions.  She noted  that it took  time to  create and                                                                    
fill positions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster   noted  there  were  only   eight  minutes                                                                    
remaining  in the  meeting. He  asked  committee members  to                                                                    
hold any questions until the end of the meeting.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager reviewed  CBPL budget  changes on  slide 22.  The                                                                    
large   item  on   the  slide   was  maintaining   licensing                                                                    
operations.   She  highlighted   a   theme  throughout   the                                                                    
department's  budget to  align  authority  with its  current                                                                    
year projections for the division.  There was an increase in                                                                    
a  variety of  costs  including  inflationary increases  and                                                                    
core  services increases,  which DCCED  had managed  through                                                                    
the high periods of vacancies  during the pandemic; however,                                                                    
the  department needed  to  have the  authority  to pay  its                                                                    
bills. She  briefly moved  to the  Division of  Insurance on                                                                    
slide 23. She  lauded Director Lori Wing-Heier  for her work                                                                    
and noted  the division had done  some remarkable innovative                                                                    
work.  She   added  that  the   division  was  one   of  the                                                                    
department's primary revenue generators.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:23:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  reviewed  budget changes  for  the  Division  of                                                                    
Insurance  on  slide  24.  The only  real  increase  in  the                                                                    
division's  budget was  to protect  Alaskan businesses  from                                                                    
loss  of insurance  coverage. She  explained there  had been                                                                    
some  pressure  from  environmental, social,  and  corporate                                                                    
governance  groups to  limit insurance  availability to  key                                                                    
sectors of  the economy.  She highlighted the  importance of                                                                    
protecting insurance  coverage in  order for  key businesses                                                                    
to continue operating.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager turned  to slide 25 pertaining to  the Division of                                                                    
Investments. The division had  11 loan programs and provided                                                                    
an important  service to Alaskans.  She noted there  were no                                                                    
changes in its budget.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:23:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager moved  to AOGCC on slide 27. She  noted there were                                                                    
a  few  small budget  changes  truing  up needs  for  future                                                                    
including overdue  vehicle replacements on the  North Slope.                                                                    
She  turned  to slide  28  pertaining  to AMCO  showing  one                                                                    
change in  the governor's  amended budget  to extend  a non-                                                                    
permanent position.  The department was proud  its licensing                                                                    
system went  live for alcohol  for the January  1 switchover                                                                    
for the Title IV rewrite.  The department was also preparing                                                                    
for   the  marijuana   renewal   as  well   as  doing   data                                                                    
conversions; therefore,  the position  would be  extended to                                                                    
provide support for the project.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  addressed the AGDC  budget on slide 29.  The item                                                                    
shown in grey  was a technical item. She  explained that the                                                                    
past  year there  was a  one-time appropriation  for general                                                                    
funds into the  ADGC operating budget, which  worked but was                                                                    
more  complicated  than  it needed  to  be.  Therefore,  the                                                                    
department was  asking to put  the money into the  AGDC fund                                                                    
to make  it easier  to manage on  the department's  end. She                                                                    
turned to the Alaska Energy  Authority (AEA) budget on slide                                                                    
30. Most  of the budget items  on the slide were  related to                                                                    
the  Infrastructure  Investment  and Jobs  Act  (IIJA).  The                                                                    
agency had  a number of different  capital appropriations it                                                                    
needed  staff   to  support.  She  highlighted   a  $200,000                                                                    
increment  for  the  AEA  data  library  on  slide  31.  She                                                                    
explained  that AEA  recognized  that the  state had  funded                                                                    
substantial research into  projects in Alaska    some of the                                                                    
projects had  gone forward  and others  had not.  The agency                                                                    
was  working   on  digitizing  the  records   to  make  them                                                                    
available to  the public  so that  as people  were exploring                                                                    
new  and  different energy  ideas  in  Alaska, it  would  be                                                                    
possible to learn from the work that had already been done.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  addressed the  AIDEA  budget  on slide  32.  She                                                                    
stated that all of the positions  for AEA lived in the AIDEA                                                                    
component and the  two agencies had an  agreement to support                                                                    
the staff  for both.  The changes to  the AIDEA  budget were                                                                    
related to  AEA capital appropriation changes.  She moved to                                                                    
the ASMI and  RCA budgets on slide 33. She  noted there were                                                                    
no significant budget changes for either agency.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager  addressed the department's  vacancy history  in a                                                                    
chart on slide 34. The blue  portion of the chart at the top                                                                    
reflected   vacant  positions   and   the  yellow   portions                                                                    
reflected filled positions. She  explained that drops in the                                                                    
blue  line reflected  changes in  the  total position  count                                                                    
overall. She highlighted large  staff and funding reductions                                                                    
in 2015  and 2016.  She noted that  prior to  the reductions                                                                    
the  department  had  a vacancy  rate  of  approximately  12                                                                    
percent,  which  rose  slightly  and  dropped  to  about  11                                                                    
percent  in   2018.  She  remarked   that  the   number  was                                                                    
artificially low. She detailed  that when the department was                                                                    
faced with tough budget reductions  it had reshuffled staff,                                                                    
moved people's  job duties  around, and  prioritized keeping                                                                    
people  in jobs  and reducing  vacant positions  rather than                                                                    
laying  people  off,  which  had  artificially  reduced  the                                                                    
vacancy factor.  She believed there were  only three layoffs                                                                    
during that time period.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager pointed  out that at the start of  the pandemic in                                                                    
March of  2020, DCCED had  a vacancy  rate of just  under 15                                                                    
percent.  She  highlighted that  the  number  climbed to  20                                                                    
percent by  December 2021. She  added that the  vacancy rate                                                                    
for CBPL was over 30 percent  at the time. She remarked that                                                                    
it had  been incredibly tough  for the team  and department.                                                                    
The department  had made good  progress and as of  June 2023                                                                    
the vacancy rate  was down to 14.62 percent,  which was back                                                                    
to pre-pandemic levels. In FY  24, the department received a                                                                    
number of new positions: 12  in CBPL, 5 related to pharmacy,                                                                    
and a number  of positions for AEA. The  department was very                                                                    
grateful  for  the new  positions,  but  it resulted  in  an                                                                    
unintended impact on the vacancy  rate, which looked like it                                                                    
jumped by  4 percent.  In reality, it  would just  take some                                                                    
time to set  up new positions. The vacancy rate  was down to                                                                    
17.6 percent by January 2024.  She noted that when excluding                                                                    
the new positions, the number  was down to 13.7 percent. She                                                                    
added  that the  vacancy  rate  for CBPL  was  down to  12.6                                                                    
percent (excluding  the new  positions). The  department was                                                                    
proud of  its progress and  staff were currently out  at job                                                                    
fairs trying to get people into the jobs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster   thanked   the   presenters   for   their                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Cronk noted  that  he had  a question  about                                                                    
RCA. He stated  the committee would need  someone present to                                                                    
answer many questions.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lager  replied  that  DCCED  was  happy  to  coordinate                                                                    
getting someone down to Juneau from RCA.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:29:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  referenced   AOGCC  and  observed                                                                    
there was no position on  the issue of carbon sequestration,                                                                    
which  would be  almost entirely  in AOGCC's  wheelhouse. He                                                                    
asked if it was because there was no bill yet.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager answered  that AOGCC received two  positions in FY                                                                    
24 in a fiscal note that  was similar to the current pending                                                                    
legislation. She  believed the commission  anticipated using                                                                    
the  same  positions  to  perform  the  work;  however,  any                                                                    
updates  would be  provided to  the  fiscal note  associated                                                                    
with the pending legislation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  requested  follow up  on  whatever                                                                    
measures  the departments  had to  show the  wait times  for                                                                    
licenses. She was interested in  the number in the queue and                                                                    
how many licenses had been issued.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lager agreed to provide the information.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB  268  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  270  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the schedule for the following                                                                         
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:31:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:31 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
FHIN - DOLWD FY 25 Budget Overview 030124.pdf HFIN 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
HFIN DCCED Budget Overview 03.01.2024.pdf HFIN 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
DOLWD Response to HFC Q 3-1 031124.pdf HFIN 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
DCCED HFIN 03.01.24 Followup Response.pdf HFIN 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
EO 129 DCCED Statement of Cost.pdf HFIN 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
EO 127 DCCED Statement of Cost.pdf HFIN 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268
EO 130 DCCED Statement of Cost.pdf HFIN 3/1/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 268