Legislature(2019 - 2020)ADAMS ROOM 519

04/25/2019 09:00 AM FINANCE

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09:00:23 AM Start
09:00:51 AM SB93
09:11:11 AM HB3
09:34:21 AM Presentation: Prison Programs by Dept. of Corrections
11:24:52 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentations: TELECONFERENCED
- Unsentenced Prison Population by
Dept. of Corrections
-Prison Programs by Dept. of Corrections
<Continued from April 24th>
+ HB 3 STATE LAND SALE; PFD VOUCHER AND ASSIGN. TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 93 MEDICAL PROVIDER INCENTIVES/LOAN REPAYM'T TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 93(FIN) Out of Committee
<Companion Bill to HB 114>
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      April 25, 2019                                                                                            
                         9:00 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:00:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 9:00 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Tammie Wilson, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Jennifer Johnston, Vice-Chair                                                                                    
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Kelly Merrick                                                                                                    
Representative Colleen Sullivan-Leonard                                                                                         
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gary Knopp                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Barbara   Barnes,  Staff,   Representative  Tammie   Wilson;                                                                    
Representative  Ivy   Spohnholz,  Companion   Bill  Sponsor;                                                                    
Representative  George Rauscher,  Bill Sponsor;  Anne Weske,                                                                    
Director,  Permanent Fund  Dividend Division,  Department of                                                                    
Revenue;  Jen Winkelman,  Director,  Probation, Parole,  and                                                                    
Pretrial Services,  Department of Corrections;  Kelly Goode,                                                                    
Deputy Commissioner, Department of Corrections.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sara   Chambers,   Director,   Division   Of   Corporations,                                                                    
Business,   and   Professional  Licensing,   Department   Of                                                                    
Commerce,  Juneau;  Darrell  Breese,  Staff,  Representative                                                                    
George  Rauscher;  Marty   Parsons,  Director,  Division  of                                                                    
Mining, Land,  and Water,  Department of  Natural Resources;                                                                    
Laura  Brooks, Deputy  Director,  Health and  Rehabilitative                                                                    
Services,  Department  of  Corrections; Pam  Martin,  Deputy                                                                    
Chief  Classification  Officer, Department  of  Corrections;                                                                    
Courtney  Donovan,  Akeela,  Anchorage;  Shannon  Pritchett,                                                                    
CFO, Akeela, Anchorage; Rosalie  Nadeau, Former CEO, Akeela,                                                                    
Anchorage;   Janice   Weiss,  Re-Entry   Program   Director,                                                                    
Department   of    Corrections;   Taryn    Link,   Probation                                                                    
Supervisor, Department of Corrections.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 3      STATE LAND SALE; PFD VOUCHER AND ASSIGN.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          HB 3 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                      
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 93     MEDICAL PROVIDER INCENTIVES/LOAN REPAYM'T                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          HCS  CSSB 93(FIN)  was REPORTED  out of  committee                                                                    
          with a  "do pass" recommendation and  with one new                                                                    
          fiscal  impact note  by the  Department of  Health                                                                    
          and Social Services.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: PRISON PROGRAMS BY DEPT. OF CORRECTIONS                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: UNSENTENCED PRISON POPULATION                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson reviewed  the agenda  for the  meeting. The                                                                    
committee would be taking up  SB 93. The committee had heard                                                                    
its companion bill earlier in the week.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 93(HSS)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to a workforce enhancement program                                                                        
     for health care professionals employed in the state;                                                                       
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:00:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston MOVED to  ADOPT proposed House Committee                                                                    
Substitute for CSSB 93 (FIN),  Work Draft 31-LS0589\S (Marx,                                                                    
04/24/19)(copy on file).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:01:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA   BARNES,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  TAMMIE   WILSON,                                                                    
reviewed  the  changes  of  the  committee  substitute.  She                                                                    
pointed to  page 1, line 9.  Rural was added to  the list of                                                                    
areas to  be covered by the  bill. On page 5,  lines 12-16 a                                                                    
new  subsection  was  added   to  allow  for  inflation  and                                                                    
utilization of  the Consumer Price Index  5-year average for                                                                    
calculations  and allowing  for the  option of  changing the                                                                    
annual  amounts   without  having   to  come  back   to  the                                                                    
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Barnes  continued to  page  7,  lines 19-21  rural  was                                                                    
defined as a community with  a population of 5,500 people or                                                                    
less that was not connected by  road or rail to Anchorage or                                                                    
Fairbanks or  with a population  of 1,500 or  less connected                                                                    
by road or  rail to Anchorage or Fairbanks. On  page 7, line                                                                    
25 doctor  of nursing  practice, clinical  psychologist, and                                                                    
counseling  psychologist were  added  to the  Tier 1  health                                                                    
care professionals category. She  concluded with the changes                                                                    
to the committee substitute.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson asked for a review of the fiscal notes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:02:54 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:03:17 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SARA   CHAMBERS,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   CORPORATIONS,                                                                    
BUSINESS,   AND   PROFESSIONAL  LICENSING,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
COMMERCE,  JUNEAU  (via   teleconference),  reviewed  Fiscal                                                                    
Note 1. She  explained that  the original  version of  SB 93                                                                    
included  some responsibilities  for  the  Board of  Nursing                                                                    
within  the division.  Therefore, she  had submitted  a zero                                                                    
fiscal note.  However, the  responsibilities were  taken out                                                                    
in the committee substitute. The  division had withdrawn its                                                                    
fiscal note and currently did  not have any affiliation with                                                                    
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  reviewed Fiscal Note 2  from the Department                                                                    
of  Health and  Social Services  (DHSS). She  explained that                                                                    
the only change  to the fiscal note was the  amount of money                                                                    
to start  the program. She  reminded members that it  had to                                                                    
be a  state program  in order to  receive the  benefits from                                                                    
the  federal  government.  She reported  there  would  be  a                                                                    
change  in  revenue  in  a   forthcoming  fiscal  note.  She                                                                    
highlighted that  as the fiscal note  was currently written,                                                                    
it  was a  general  funds  source but  would  be changed  to                                                                    
statutory  receipt authority  and  would match  page 2.  The                                                                    
wrong fund  source was originally  inserted but  the amounts                                                                    
would not change.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tilton referred to  page 3, lines 27-29 which                                                                    
talked about how  an employer's payment could  come from any                                                                    
available  source  including  a  philanthropic  institution,                                                                    
health    foundation,     government    agency,    community                                                                    
organization,  or private  individuals. She  wondered if  it                                                                    
was possible  for an  employer to  be receiving  grants from                                                                    
the State of Alaska and using them for the program.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson invited  the sponsors  of the  bill to  the                                                                    
table.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:05:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  IVY   SPOHNHOLZ,  COMPANION   BILL  SPONSOR,                                                                    
responded  that it  would  have to  be  consistent with  the                                                                    
grant  award received  by an  employer and  would depend  on                                                                    
whether the  grant award  allowed for the  funds to  be used                                                                    
for  the  compensation of  employees.  She  did not  believe                                                                    
there would be  a conflict, but it depended on  the grant in                                                                    
question rather than the eligibility for SHARP.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tilton asked whether, as  long as a grant was                                                                    
consistent with a grant award,  the monies could be used for                                                                    
repayment. She was asking because  it sounded like that much                                                                    
of  the program  came through  non-profits. Many  non-profit                                                                    
organizations  received grant  funding  through the  federal                                                                    
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Spohnholz  responded   that  most   of  the                                                                    
organizations  eligible   for  the  SHARP  3   Program  were                                                                    
primarily non-profits  for Medicaid  billing. It  could also                                                                    
include  some grant  funding. The  state did  some substance                                                                    
abuse treatment  that was grant  funding. She  surmised that                                                                    
as long  as it was  consistent with  the terms of  the grant                                                                    
application, she thought it would be okay.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter noted  the  comment regarding  not                                                                    
having  to  come  back to  the  legislature  for  additional                                                                    
authority. He asked Representative Spohnholz to comment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Spohnholz explained that  the rational was to                                                                    
allow for  the program  to keep  up with  the cost  of doing                                                                    
business  over   time  without  having  to   come  back  for                                                                    
permission  from the  legislature. She  felt if  the private                                                                    
sector  was going  to essentially  fund the  program support                                                                    
increases, and  was willing to pay  for it, it would  not be                                                                    
necessary to  come back to the  legislature, especially with                                                                    
appropriate sideboards in place.  She noted that health care                                                                    
inflation was more aggressive that  the Consumer Price Index                                                                    
(CPI). Health are  in the State of Alaska in  the prior year                                                                    
was about  7 percent, whereas  CPI was under 2  percent. The                                                                    
increases were not aggressive.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson commented  on  the use  of  the word  "may"                                                                    
instead of "shall."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  added that the increases  were not                                                                    
decided by the federal government.  They would be decided by                                                                    
the employer.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson responded  that  he was  correct that  they                                                                    
would have that opportunity.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Spohnholz  followed  up that  the  decisions                                                                    
would  be made  by the  SHARP Council  in consultation  with                                                                    
members of the employer community.  It was not being done to                                                                    
employers but by them.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston  MOVED to report HCSCSSB  93(fin) out of                                                                    
Committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HCS CSSB  93(FIN) was REPORTED  out of committee with  a "do                                                                    
pass" recommendation and with one  new fiscal impact note by                                                                    
the Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:09:51 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:10:57 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 3                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the purchase and sale of state                                                                         
     land; relating to discounts for veterans on state land                                                                     
     purchases;  and relating  to  assignments of  permanent                                                                    
     fund dividends."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:11:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GEORGE RAUSCHER, BILL SPONSOR, thanked the                                                                       
committee for hearing his bill. He read the bill sponsor                                                                        
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska has  an abundance  of three things:  land, PFDs,                                                                    
     and veterans.  House Bill 3  is a means to  bring these                                                                    
     three together.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 3  encourages the sale of  state lands, thus                                                                    
     creating   growth,  allowing   for   the   use  on   an                                                                    
     individual's  Permanent Fund  Dividend to  purchase the                                                                    
     land.  It  encourages  veterans to  use  the  statutory                                                                    
     discount  in combination  with  the  PFD assignment  to                                                                    
     purchase land.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Alaskans who  have resided  in the  state for  at least                                                                    
     one-year immediately  prior to the opening  of the land                                                                    
     disposal  and who  are at  least  18 years  of age  can                                                                    
     participate. The  state regularly offers  surplus lands                                                                    
     for sale either by auction or over-the-counter sales.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     House  Bill  3  aims  to make  these  land  sales  more                                                                    
     accessible to  Alaskans by  allowing the  assignment of                                                                    
     the PFD by individuals to pay for the purchase.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rauscher urged the committee to support                                                                          
HB 3.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:13:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DARRELL BREESE,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE GEORGE  RAUSCHER (via                                                                    
teleconference), reviewed  the sectional  for the  bill. The                                                                    
bill made a couple of major  changes of how land sales would                                                                    
be handled by Department of Natural Resources (DNR):                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: Changes the discount  on state land sales to                                                                    
     eligible veterans from 25 percent to one-third.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  Makes a  technical and  language conforming                                                                    
     change  to the  definition  section of  statute for  an                                                                    
     "eligible  veteran".  changing  U.S.  armed  forces  to                                                                    
     United States armed forces.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3: Creates  clarifying language  that veterans                                                                    
     may  not  combine  multiple discounts  when  purchasing                                                                    
     state  land. Example  -Preventing  three veterans  from                                                                    
     joining  together to  purchase land  for free  with the                                                                    
     discount offered under section 1 of the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4:  Establishes the  ability for  the Permanent                                                                    
     Fund  Division  within  the Department  of  Revenue  to                                                                    
     include  on  the  electronic  Permanent  Fund  Dividend                                                                    
     application  the ability  for an  individual to  assign                                                                    
     all  or a  portion of  their PFD  to the  Department of                                                                    
     Natural Resources  to make  payment for  land purchased                                                                    
     through the state land sales program.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5:  Establishes the  ability for  the Permanent                                                                    
     Fund Division  to create  and charge  an administrative                                                                    
     fee  for processing  payments under  Section  4 to  the                                                                    
     Department of Natural Resources.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6:   Applicability  language   clarifying  the                                                                    
     eligible veterans are entitled to only one                                                                                 
     discount. including  the 25 percent  discount available                                                                    
     in  existing statute  or the  one-third discount  after                                                                    
     the passage of this bill during their lifetime.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7:  Establishes an effective date  for the bill                                                                    
     of August 1. 2019.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Johnston  asked  what   drove  the  decision  to                                                                    
increase  the  discount  from  25  percent  to  33  percent.                                                                    
Representative Rauscher  explained that it was  to encourage                                                                    
more  participation  of  Veterans. The  amount  of  veterans                                                                    
available  to  participate  would   increase  based  on  the                                                                    
percentage.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:16:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston  asked about the  fee in Section  5 that                                                                    
the Dividend Division would be  able to set. She wondered if                                                                    
there  should  be  a  cap  on the  fee  or  whether  he  was                                                                    
comfortable  with the  division  setting it.  Representative                                                                    
Rauscher was comfortable with the division setting the fee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz supported the intent  of the bill. He asked                                                                    
about  the necessity  of including  Section 4  regarding the                                                                    
creation  of  a  separate  function of  the  Permanent  Fund                                                                    
Division.  He  did  not understand  the  connection  of  the                                                                    
Permanent   Fund  Dividend   to  the   bill.  Representative                                                                    
Rauscher  responded that  it  was  basically a  pass-through                                                                    
method rather than multiple people  handling a PFD check. It                                                                    
was  faster,  cheaper, and  saved  a  significant amount  of                                                                    
money.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  asked  if  Mr.   Breese  had  any  further                                                                    
comments.   Mr.  Breese   thought  Representative   Rauscher                                                                    
described the intention of the bill very well.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz   asked  for  further  detail   about  the                                                                    
savings. He  wondered about additional costs  for setting up                                                                    
the   new  function   at   the   Permanent  Fund   Division.                                                                    
Representative Rauscher  responded that  there was  a fiscal                                                                    
note attached  that was about  $1,800 for upkeep.  There was                                                                    
also an originally set-up fee of $10,000.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  relayed  the committee  would  review  the                                                                    
fiscal notes shortly.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon was curious  about some of the workings                                                                    
of  the program.  He asked  about the  land in  question. He                                                                    
wondered if  a Veteran  could request  a certain  portion of                                                                    
land.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:19:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARTY  PARSONS,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  MINING,  LAND,  AND                                                                    
WATER,    DEPARTMENT     OF    NATURAL     RESOURCES    (via                                                                    
teleconference),  responded   that  the  department   had  a                                                                    
statewide  land sale  program in  which  lands were  offered                                                                    
through  auction every  year. Lands  that were  not sold  at                                                                    
auction  were  sold  over-the-counter. House  Bill  3  would                                                                    
allow a  veteran to  apply the discount  to purchase  any of                                                                    
the parcels offered by the department statewide.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon asked about  the parcel in question. He                                                                    
wondered  if  there  were requirements  for  the  cash  down                                                                    
payment  for   the  purchaser   and  whether   the  discount                                                                    
eliminated the cash down payment requirement.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Parsons responded that when  bidding through the auction                                                                    
there was a bid fee.  The department did not require earnest                                                                    
money or  a down  payment. However,  a purchaser  could make                                                                    
forward  payments. At  the time  of going  to contract,  the                                                                    
contract  would be  based on  the remaining  balance of  the                                                                    
purchase price. If a parcel  was purchased through the over-                                                                    
the-counter method,  it would require either  paying cash or                                                                    
entering into  a purchase contract  for the land.  The state                                                                    
was  very  generous in  its  ability  to create  contractual                                                                    
obligations for purchases of land.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked about the interest  rate and the                                                                    
term of  a loan.  He asked  if there  was a  requirement for                                                                    
improvements of the land. Mr.  Parsons replied that the term                                                                    
of the  contract was  negotiable. There  was the  ability to                                                                    
provide    several   payment    options.   He    asked   the                                                                    
representative to restate his questions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked about  the interest  and whether                                                                    
it  was fixed  or variable  rate. He  also wondered  whether                                                                    
there were  any requirements of  the land purchaser  to make                                                                    
improvements.  Mr.  Parsons replied  that  there  was not  a                                                                    
requirement to  make improvements to the  land. The interest                                                                    
rate was  fixed at  prime plus 2. He  added that  an Alaskan                                                                    
with a  driver's license  was eligible  for a  contract with                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Merrick asked about  any tax liability or tax                                                                    
breaks on  the PFD. Representative Rauscher  deferred to Mr.                                                                    
Parsons.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Parsons  could   not  accurately   answer  about   tax                                                                    
obligations  without  conferring   with  the  Department  of                                                                    
Revenue  (DOR).   However,  he  assumed  if   an  individual                                                                    
received  a  PFD, it  would  still  be reportable  on  their                                                                    
federal taxes.  Co-Chair Wilson  responded that  Mr. Parsons                                                                    
was correct. Representative Merrick  commented that was what                                                                    
she assumed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:24:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tilton asked  about  the  assignment of  the                                                                    
dividend and whether  it was limited to  Veterans or whether                                                                    
other people  could use their  PFD check  towards purchasing                                                                    
land through the DNR sales.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rauscher  replied  in  the  affirmative.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that anyone  could use  their PFD  check towards                                                                    
the purchase of  DNR lands. The software that  would be used                                                                    
would make  it easy  to specify  the use  of a  person's PFD                                                                    
towards  a state  land  purchase. He  argued  that the  bill                                                                    
facilitated a way  for a significant amount of  people to be                                                                    
able  to  partake  in  the  bidding  process.  It  would  be                                                                    
beneficial   to  the   state  as   well  because   it  could                                                                    
potentially drive up the price.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:25:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter   referred  to  Section   4  which                                                                    
provided a pass-through method of  payment for the land with                                                                    
a person's PFD  check. He queried about  a different process                                                                    
if the PFD  was eliminated by the legislature  in the future                                                                    
and it was the means in  which a person was paying for their                                                                    
land. Representative  Rauscher assumed  a person  would have                                                                    
to write a check.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:26:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson OPENED Public Testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:26:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson Closed Public Testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson invited  Mr. Parsons  to review  the fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Parsons indicated that the  fiscal note [Fiscal Note 1 -                                                                    
OMB Component Number: 3002] showed  a slight decrease in the                                                                    
monies collected on  the income that would  be generated for                                                                    
the land  sales program.  He reported that  the department's                                                                    
assumptions  were spelled  out  on the  second  page of  the                                                                    
note. The  department was not anticipating  a major increase                                                                    
in   the  number   of   veterans   that  would   potentially                                                                    
participate. However, the difference  between the 25 percent                                                                    
discount currently in  place up to a  33.3 percent discount,                                                                    
would  account  for a  reduction  of  about $21,000  to  the                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  asked  Mr. Parsons  about  a  booklet  for                                                                    
people to look  at online at the DNR  website regarding land                                                                    
sales. Mr.  Parsons responded  in the  affirmative. Booklets                                                                    
were available  online and at public  information centers in                                                                    
Fairbanks  and Anchorage.  Booklets were  also available  in                                                                    
Juneau at  the DNR  office. The over-the-counter  sales were                                                                    
available to see online.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson indicated  there was  another fiscal  note:                                                                    
Fiscal Note  2 by the  Department of Revenue,  OMB Component                                                                    
Number 981.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:28:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  WESKE,  DIRECTOR,  PERMANENT FUND  DIVIDEND  DIVISION,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  REVENUE, relayed  that the  Division included                                                                    
$10,700 for  the set-up  costs for  the program.  The amount                                                                    
would facilitate  the programing required to  add a question                                                                    
to  the application  and ensure  that the  division included                                                                    
details that might  come about as the  process continued. It                                                                    
would be  the first electronic  assignment for the  PFD. The                                                                    
division  had typically  done  assignments  through a  paper                                                                    
process  previously. The  $10,700 would  cover approximately                                                                    
89 hours  of programming at a  rate of $120 per  hour. After                                                                    
the programing  was completed, $1,800  would be  required on                                                                    
an annual basis  for upkeep of the system.  It would include                                                                    
the production of  reports for DNR and any  bug fixes needed                                                                    
to the application.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  had a  broader  question  related to  the                                                                    
Permanent Fund  Division. He wondered  about the  costs over                                                                    
the years with additions to  the PFD application such as the                                                                    
Pick. Click.  Give. program,  the potential  lottery program                                                                    
and education  money. He wondered  if there had been  a need                                                                    
for additional manpower and economic resources.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Weske  responded that the  program was very  popular and                                                                    
there was more participation  across the state. The division                                                                    
was seeing a need to produce  a template for the cost to add                                                                    
programs.  She suggested  that  at some  point  it might  be                                                                    
necessary to  have management  of ancillary  programs within                                                                    
the  division.   The  application   was  growing.   She  was                                                                    
currently  trying  to make  it  accessible  for Alaskans  to                                                                    
choose any  option without having  to add multiple  pages to                                                                    
the  online  application.  It  might   need  to  be  managed                                                                    
differently in the near future.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  asked if Representative Rauscher  wanted to                                                                    
comment further.  Representative Rauscher believed  the bill                                                                    
was a good  idea. He reported that  representatives that had                                                                    
been  in the  military  signed  on in  support  of the  bill                                                                    
immediately. He  had received several calls  in his district                                                                    
about people  wanting to  see whether  they could  use their                                                                    
PFD in such a fashion to help  pay for some of the land they                                                                    
had  already  purchased.  He relayed  that  the  25  percent                                                                    
program would end changing to 33.3 percent.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson indicated amendments  were due by 5:00 p.m.,                                                                    
Tuesday, April 30, 2019.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  3   was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee   for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:33:07 AM                                                                                                                    
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9:34:01 AM                                                                                                                    
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^PRESENTATION: PRISON PROGRAMS BY DEPT. OF CORRECTIONS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:34:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEN  WINKELMAN, DIRECTOR,  PROBATION,  PAROLE, AND  PRETRIAL                                                                    
SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF CORRECTIONS,  introduced  herself.                                                                    
She would be advancing the  slides while other experts would                                                                    
address the presentation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:34:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  BROOKS, DEPUTY  DIRECTOR,  HEALTH AND  REHABILITATIVE                                                                    
SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT OF  CORRECTIONS (via  teleconference),                                                                    
continued  the presentation  beginning with  the subject  of                                                                    
substance  abuse treatment.  She  reported  that the  Alaska                                                                    
Department  of  Corrections  (DOC)   was  also  the  largest                                                                    
substance abuse  treatment provider  and played the  role of                                                                    
providing the most drug and  alcohol detox services to DOC's                                                                    
population. She  informed members  that about 80  percent of                                                                    
DOC's  population had  substance  use disorders  and on  any                                                                    
given  day  the  department  had   about  40  inmates  being                                                                    
monitored or  treated for withdrawals. About  10 inmates per                                                                    
day  were on  medically managed  protocols which  meant they                                                                    
were so deep  in the withdrawal process that they  had to be                                                                    
under a  provider's supervision. Of  those 10, a  handful of                                                                    
them  had  to go  to  a  hospital because  their  withdrawal                                                                    
became so severe  that the department could  not manage them                                                                    
within its facilities. Substance  abuse for the department's                                                                    
population was a tremendous problem.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks moved to slide  11 which showed on-site substance                                                                    
abuse  services. The  slide showed  the  different types  of                                                                    
programs the  department provided.  She would offer  a brief                                                                    
rundown of the meanings for  some key programs. Since FY 11,                                                                    
the department had worked diligently  to expand its services                                                                    
offered  to its  population  that  struggled with  substance                                                                    
abuse. In the previous  3 years the department's programming                                                                    
had  changed  significantly.  The   department  had  made  a                                                                    
concerted effort  to go  to evidence-based  programming. She                                                                    
indicated  that  the  slide  showed  all  of  the  different                                                                    
programs DOC provided currently.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks mentioned  medically assisted withdrawal services                                                                    
and discussed  screening assessment processes. In  2017, the                                                                    
department  streamlined  its screening  assessment  process.                                                                    
The  screening process  provided basic  information such  as                                                                    
whether  a person  had enough  of a  substance use  issue to                                                                    
warrant  a  referral  to  a  substance  abuse  program.  The                                                                    
assessment was  more in  depth and  determined the  level of                                                                    
care the individual needed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Brooks   reported   that  in   2016   the   department                                                                    
significantly changed the way  it provided interventions for                                                                    
things  in  pre-trial.  It  looked  at  its  psychoeducation                                                                    
programs and  entered them into  the pre-trial  systems. The                                                                    
psychoeducation program  lasted for  6 weeks,  explored risk                                                                    
factors associated  with use,  and provided  education about                                                                    
consequences. It  was a basic  level of  treatment. However,                                                                    
the department found that inmates  in pre-trial, a transient                                                                    
population, did not have time  to go through a full program.                                                                    
She  reported that  the intensive  outpatient treatment  was                                                                    
located at Goose Creek Correctional  Center and Spring Creek                                                                    
Correctional Center  where they  had sober living  units. At                                                                    
both facilities there were units  where individuals lived on                                                                    
site  and attended  outpatient  treatment. Other  facilities                                                                    
also  had intensive  outpatient  programs,  but the  inmates                                                                    
came  to a  classroom to  participate in  a group  then meet                                                                    
individually with substance abuse counselors.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:38:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson asked if Ms.  Brooks had indicated there was                                                                    
outpatient  treatment for  Goose  Creek Correctional  Center                                                                    
and  Spring Creek  Correctional Center.  Ms. Brooks  replied                                                                    
that  the department  had sober  living at  both facilities.                                                                    
The department  used to have  a residential  substance abuse                                                                    
treatment  program in  Spring Creek.  However, it  could not                                                                    
find  treatment  providers  which resulted  in  the  program                                                                    
closing  at  Spring Creek.  It  was  moved to  the  Wildwood                                                                    
Correctional  Complex.  In the  absence  of  the program  at                                                                    
Spring Creek a sober living unit was added there.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  noted Ms.  Brooks reported  doing evidence-                                                                    
based treatment. She wondered  what the department was doing                                                                    
before.  Ms. Brooks  responded that  upon evaluation  of its                                                                    
programs,  the department  found  that they  were being  run                                                                    
differently.  The  department   worked  to  standardize  the                                                                    
curriculum. Evidence-based treatment  provided true fidelity                                                                    
to the model. The substance  abuse counselors of the program                                                                    
were following the curriculum.  Whereas, when the department                                                                    
evaluated the  treatment program  several years  prior, that                                                                    
was  not  the  case.  Even  though  there  might  have  been                                                                    
curriculums that were nationally  evidenced, they were being                                                                    
presented  by treatment  providers  in a  way  that did  not                                                                    
ensure  they  were fully  meeting  the  requirements of  the                                                                    
program. The department did a  revamp about 3 years prior to                                                                    
make sure  that the department  was getting the most  out of                                                                    
the programs.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  asked about success  rates of  the programs                                                                    
showing   that  the   evidence-based   programs  were   more                                                                    
successful than the previous  programs. Ms. Brooks responded                                                                    
that recidivism numbers were based  on 3 years post-release.                                                                    
She indicated  that the end  of FY  19 would mark  the first                                                                    
year  the   department  would  be   able  to   evaluate  the                                                                    
recidivism for  the 2017 cohort  under the new  program. She                                                                    
added  that when  the department  looked at  the numbers  of                                                                    
people entering into treatment  and completing the programs,                                                                    
it was seeing an increase.  However, there had been a number                                                                    
of  things  over  the  previous couple  of  years  that  had                                                                    
impacted the numbers as well.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks  reported  that  one of  the  major  issues  the                                                                    
department  had  in  FY  17 was  that  the  substance  abuse                                                                    
contractor  cancelled the  contract.  There  was an  8-month                                                                    
period where  the department was  trying to put  the program                                                                    
back  in  place   where  there  was  not   a  contract.  The                                                                    
department had  to significantly reduce its  services during                                                                    
that time. The  folks that were in the  program were allowed                                                                    
to complete  it, but the  department had to reduce  what was                                                                    
offered. The  period was between  the end  of FY 17  and the                                                                    
beginning of FY 18.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks  continued that since the  department brought the                                                                    
Salvation  Army   onboard  for  the   residential  treatment                                                                    
program  at Hiland  Mountain Correctional  Center and  doing                                                                    
the   intensive   outpatient    program   at   Goose   Creek                                                                    
Correctional Center,  the department had started  to see the                                                                    
numbers to where it had  hoped they would be. The department                                                                    
was  still in  the  process of  increasing  the numbers.  In                                                                    
addition, the contract that was  cancelled a couple of years                                                                    
ago was  a statewide contract. The  department lost services                                                                    
in all  facilities. Since that  time, instead of  having one                                                                    
statewide  contract, the  department  had  been looking  for                                                                    
local  providers  to  go  into  its  facilities  to  provide                                                                    
treatment   programs.  Depending   on  the   community,  the                                                                    
department  had  various  levels  of success.  The  lack  of                                                                    
substance abuse treatment  providers in Alaska's communities                                                                    
was a statewide problem and  one that DHSS had identified as                                                                    
a major gap.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks  elaborated  that  the  workforce  continued  to                                                                    
impact the  departments programs. The department  had closed                                                                    
its intensive outpatient  program in Lemon Creek  as well as                                                                    
its   community   program   because  it   was   consistently                                                                    
underutilized.   Also,  the   community  provider   in  that                                                                    
location could not keep up  with the staff needs required to                                                                    
keep  the programs  going.  Systemwide,  the department  had                                                                    
seen its  numbers go  up and down  depending on  where there                                                                    
were treatment providers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:43:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  spoke of  the urgent  needs around                                                                    
the previous  year's earthquake  in Anchorage.  He suggested                                                                    
that Ms. Brooks was describing  a type of emergency as well.                                                                    
He noted  the need for a  holistic system. He asked  why the                                                                    
legislature  was  not being  notified  of  the need  to  fix                                                                    
certain things  regarding SB 91  [Omnibus crime  bill passed                                                                    
in 2016] in a more urgent way.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks  agreed  that the  substance  abuse  problem  in                                                                    
Alaska was at an emergency level.  It had been for years, as                                                                    
Alaska had the  highest alcoholism rate in  the country. The                                                                    
last governor declared  a state of emergency  for the opioid                                                                    
crisis. What  she had seen as  the real issue was  a lack of                                                                    
treatment providers in communities. She  did not have a good                                                                    
answer   to   Representative   Josephson's   question.   She                                                                    
suggested that it was an  easy process to become a substance                                                                    
abuse  treatment   provider  in   terms  of   education  and                                                                    
credentialing. However,  it was  not a  specialty profession                                                                    
that    seemed    to    draw   many    people's    interest.                                                                    
She  suggested  that  DHSS  could   possibly  speak  to  his                                                                    
question. She  agreed, that  it had  reached a  crisis level                                                                    
being that  80 percent  of DOC's population  was in  need of                                                                    
treatment. The  department had  not been  able to  reach the                                                                    
people it needed to reach.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  established   that  it   was  an                                                                    
individual problem  for the person with  the substance abuse                                                                    
and a  problem for society  if they reoffended.  He wondered                                                                    
how  individuals complied  as  a condition  of probation  if                                                                    
sufficient  services  were  not available.  He  wondered  if                                                                    
compliance would not happen.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks  responded that when individuals  left the system                                                                    
with a requirement to complete  substance abuse treatment in                                                                    
their community, they  went on a wait list  if treatment was                                                                    
available. The  waitlist might be weeks  or months depending                                                                    
on the  community and  the level  of treatment  required. In                                                                    
some  communities telehealth  systems were  being set  up to                                                                    
assist with treatment. She was  not sure where the state was                                                                    
in  the  process.  However,   telehealth  only  addressed  a                                                                    
certain level of treatment. It  did not address the need for                                                                    
detox or  residential treatment.  For a person  on probation                                                                    
or  parole,  it was  a  challenge  to meet  their  treatment                                                                    
requirement.  It  might  be a  significant  amount  of  time                                                                    
before they could meet their requirement.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Winkelman  commented that regarding people  on probation                                                                    
or parole, if  they were placed on a  waitlist and treatment                                                                    
had  not become  available before  their time  was expiring,                                                                    
they  would appear  in court  through a  petition to  revoke                                                                    
probation or a  summons to let the court know  they were not                                                                    
able to complete the terms  of their probation. At that time                                                                    
the department  would either make a  recommendation to honor                                                                    
the time lapse or to  extend their probation period in order                                                                    
to complete a treatment program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:48:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon restated  that approximately 80 percent                                                                    
of Alaska's  prison population struggled with  substance use                                                                    
disorders.  He wondered  how  to judge  and  measure the  80                                                                    
percent of the  population. He wondered how low  the bar was                                                                    
that defined  someone as having a  substance abuse disorder.                                                                    
Ms.  Brooks clarified  that the  80 percent  applied to  the                                                                    
jail and  prison population. Representative  LeBon suggested                                                                    
that  she add  the word  "prison" before  population on  the                                                                    
chart on slide 12.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Johnston  noted  methadone bridging.  She  asked                                                                    
about  the blocker  medication that  had started  being used                                                                    
about 5  years prior.  She asked  if Vivitrol  was currently                                                                    
being used  in DOC's programs.  Ms. Brooks responded  in the                                                                    
affirmative.  The department  started a  Medication Assisted                                                                    
Treatment for Reentry (MATR) program.  It included the drug,                                                                    
Vivitrol or long-acting Naltrexone.  The program was started                                                                    
about two  years previously  and was  currently part  of the                                                                    
release process.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Johnston   asked  if  she  would   be  providing                                                                    
statistics of the  success of MATR. Ms.  Brooks replied that                                                                    
the  department   had  partnered  with  the   University  of                                                                    
Alaska's   Center  for   Circumpolar  Health   Studies.  The                                                                    
department was  in the process  of studying MATR, as  it was                                                                    
presently a pilot program. The  department was receiving the                                                                    
medication  at  no  charge from  a  pharmaceutical  company,                                                                    
which  would not  last indefinitely.  The  injection of  the                                                                    
medication  was  approximately   $1000  per  treatment.  The                                                                    
department wanted to make sure  that when the pharmaceutical                                                                    
company no longer provided the  drug cost-free, it was clear                                                                    
the  drug was  positively effective  against recidivism  and                                                                    
clinical relapse.  She indicated  that the  University would                                                                    
be completing  the project  in the  coming summer  and could                                                                    
report back with solid numbers in the coming fall.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson   asked  about  the  frequency   of  giving                                                                    
Vivitrol.  Ms. Brooks  reported  that  the injection  lasted                                                                    
about 28  days and  was administered to  a prisoner  about 3                                                                    
days  prior to  their  release.  A person  had  to have  all                                                                    
opioids out  of their system  before they could  receive the                                                                    
medication.  Individuals were  put through  a mental  health                                                                    
and  a  medical  screening  to   make  sure  there  were  no                                                                    
contraindications  to taking  Vivitrol. The  department made                                                                    
referrals in  order for  individuals to  follow up  in their                                                                    
community  to receive  an additional  shot in  30 days.  The                                                                    
department   also   made   referrals  to   substance   abuse                                                                    
treatment,  as   the  research   showed  that   Vivitrol  in                                                                    
conjunction  with a  cognitive behavioral  treatment program                                                                    
was more effective than the  injection alone. It was similar                                                                    
to someone who  took an antidepressant. Someone  who took an                                                                    
antidepressant and went to therapy  would have a much better                                                                    
outcome  than someone  who took  the  medication alone.  How                                                                    
long  a  person  took  monthly   shots  in  their  community                                                                    
depended  upon how  their other  substance abuse  counseling                                                                    
progressed. The  hope was that  individuals would  no longer                                                                    
need  the  medication  after developing  alternative  coping                                                                    
skills through cognitive behavioral treatment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:53:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz returned to the  topic of lack of access to                                                                    
substance abuse services.  He asked if the  state was making                                                                    
any  progress  in  satisfying  the  supply  and  demand  for                                                                    
treatment services.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks would  have to get numbers from DHSS  in order to                                                                    
reply accurately. Anecdotally, she  thought gains were being                                                                    
made.  There was  a greater  recognition  over the  previous                                                                    
several  years about  the lack  of  services within  Alaskan                                                                    
communities. More  attention had been brought  to the issue.                                                                    
She could not speak to  specifics about the strides DHSS had                                                                    
made.  She confirmed  a statewide  plan had  been developed.                                                                    
She thought DHSS could better address his question.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz returned  to the  issue of  being able  to                                                                    
recruit  people  to work  in  the  area of  substance  abuse                                                                    
treatment. He  wondered if the issue  had to do with  a lack                                                                    
of commitment  to put  resources towards  recruiting people.                                                                    
Ms.  Brooks  did  not  attribute  the issue  to  a  lack  of                                                                    
recruitment efforts. Training  and certification rather than                                                                    
a college  degree were  required to work  in the  field. She                                                                    
was uncertain  why people  were not seeking  to work  in the                                                                    
field.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz   asked  if  the   pay  was  low   in  the                                                                    
profession.  Ms.  Brooks  thought pay  for  substance  abuse                                                                    
counseling was a factor.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson queried  the average  yearly salary  in the                                                                    
field. Ms. Brooks did not have the information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Johnston  asked  why   Akeela,  Inc.  no  longer                                                                    
provided  services  for the  state.  She  asked for  details                                                                    
regarding its  contract. Ms.  Brooks responded  that Akeela,                                                                    
Inc. canceled the contract prior to its completion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston  asked if she  could provide  the reason                                                                    
they had given  for ending their contract  early. Ms. Brooks                                                                    
relayed  that  the  Akeela,  Inc.   felt  that  it  was  not                                                                    
beneficial  to  them  as  an   agency.  Midway  through  the                                                                    
contract they  determined they  financially could  no longer                                                                    
provide services at the contracted rate.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  asked if the  state's payments were  not on                                                                    
time.  Ms. Brooks  responded that  the rate  of pay  was not                                                                    
sufficient.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:58:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter brought up  the issue of parole and                                                                    
the availability for substance  abuse treatment. He wondered                                                                    
if  there was  a  process  in place  to  sync  the dates  of                                                                    
release with the date of treatment availability.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks responded that when  someone came into the system                                                                    
requiring substance  abuse treatment  they were  referred to                                                                    
that  program. The  department had  waitlists for  substance                                                                    
abuse treatment.  Waitlists for residential  substance abuse                                                                    
treatment  could  be 60  days  or  more.  A person  who  was                                                                    
incarcerated for  years had  the opportunity  to participate                                                                    
in the  programs. She offered  that when an  individual came                                                                    
up  for  discretionary  parole   but  had  not  completed  a                                                                    
recommended substance  abuse treatment program, it  would be                                                                    
up  to the  parole board  to  allow them  to seek  substance                                                                    
abuse  treatment  in their  community  or  deny them  parole                                                                    
until it  was completed while  in custody. The  parole board                                                                    
looked  at a  number of  factors when  making considerations                                                                    
including  the   efforts  an  offender  made   to  get  into                                                                    
treatment. There  was a surprising number  of offenders that                                                                    
were not interested in seeking  treatment even when it was a                                                                    
legal requirement.  Syncing parole  and treatment had  to do                                                                    
more with a  review of what the offender had  done and their                                                                    
efforts to  seek treatment.  The parole  board would  make a                                                                    
determination after a review.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  was  specifically  talking  about                                                                    
discretionary  parole.  He  clarified that  he  was  talking                                                                    
about those  individuals that came  up for parole  and there                                                                    
was some  discretion to  the state as  to whether  they were                                                                    
released.  It  was  his understanding  that  the  state  was                                                                    
releasing individuals  on parole  and were  free to  do what                                                                    
they wanted and  were on a waitlist for a  long duration for                                                                    
a treatment  option. He  suggested it  was no  surprise that                                                                    
they  would  recidivate, as  they  had  not dealt  with  the                                                                    
underlying  issues that  led them  to incarceration.  He was                                                                    
concerned  with the  idea  that the  state  would choose  to                                                                    
release them  prior to addressing their  issues. He wondered                                                                    
if there was a way to  sync the waitlist with the discretion                                                                    
to  release  an  inmate  such that  their  date  of  release                                                                    
matched the date of treatment availability.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks  replied that the difficulty  with Representative                                                                    
Carpenter's  suggestion   was  that  most   substance  abuse                                                                    
treatment  programs would  not put  a person  on a  waitlist                                                                    
until  they were  released from  prison. The  waitlist clock                                                                    
did  not   start  ticking   until  a   person  was   out  of                                                                    
corrections. The  issue was further complicated  because the                                                                    
community   providers   frequently   did  not   accept   the                                                                    
assessments DOC did  in custody and wanted  a new assessment                                                                    
completed. A  person would  be given  an appointment  for an                                                                    
assessment,  an assessment  would be  conducted, a  level of                                                                    
care would be determined, and  the person would be placed on                                                                    
a  waitlist. She  agreed that  a  simple system  was not  in                                                                    
place  for  offenders. She  noted  that  the department  was                                                                    
trying to change the way  in which assessments were done. In                                                                    
the  current   year  DOC   purchased  access   to  Continuum                                                                    
Software, a  national gold standard  tool. Employees  of the                                                                    
department received training in the  use of the new software                                                                    
which the department  would begin using in  the near future.                                                                    
It was  a standardized  assessment tool  that DHSS  was also                                                                    
looking  at  using.  The  hope  was that  when  DOC  did  an                                                                    
assessment it would automatically  transfer to any treatment                                                                    
provider   in  Alaska's   communities  in   an  attempt   to                                                                    
streamline  the process.  Until then,  the process  remained                                                                    
complicated  and  did  very  little   to  aid  offenders  in                                                                    
rehabilitation once they reached the community.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:04:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  if treatment  providers had                                                                    
the ability to do an  assessment prior to parole. Ms. Brooks                                                                    
answered in  the affirmative; it  happened in many  of DOC's                                                                    
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Carpenter    hoped   the    committee   was                                                                    
highlighting  a  process  problem that  allowed  people  who                                                                    
needed to  receive treatment while in  prison, not receiving                                                                    
it before being  released. He thought the state  was part of                                                                    
the problem  and that  the public was  feeling the  pain. He                                                                    
was  very frustrated  to hear  something being  described as                                                                    
"the way it is."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson wondered whether  the law needed changing or                                                                    
whether treatment needed  to be ensured. She  thought it was                                                                    
unclear whether  changing the law would  change the outcome.                                                                    
She intimated  that if treatment was  not available, inmates                                                                    
would  reoffend   once  on  parole.  She   wondered  if  the                                                                    
department  was   aware  of  the  drugs   that  entered  its                                                                    
facilities.  She  asked  if  drug  dogs  were  brought  into                                                                    
prisons. Ms.  Brooks replied that  the department  was aware                                                                    
of  contraband entering  DOC's  facilities. She  recommended                                                                    
having someone  from the Division of  Institutions or Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner Goode speak to the subject.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:07:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KELLY    GOODE,   DEPUTY    COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT    OF                                                                    
CORRECTIONS,   was  aware   contraband   entered  into   DOC                                                                    
facilities throughout  the state. The department  had a drug                                                                    
dog, Coda, who had done  some amazing things in the previous                                                                    
few years.  She was happy to  provide a list of  things that                                                                    
Coda had found within DOC's facilities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson asked  if DOC  only  had one  drug dog  and                                                                    
asked  for the  number  of facilities  the  dog served.  Ms.                                                                    
Goode responded that DOC currently had one canine.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson asked if DOC  was working with Department of                                                                    
Public Safety (DPS), as DPS had  more than one drug dog. Ms.                                                                    
Goode  reported   that  DOC   was  collaborating   with  the                                                                    
Department of  Public Safety to  broaden the  canine program                                                                    
to better address contraband in DOC facilities.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  wondered  why  the issue  was  only  being                                                                    
addressed  presently.  The  issue had  existed  for  several                                                                    
years. She  had been told by  inmates that it was  easier to                                                                    
obtain contraband  in DOC's  facilities than  it was  on the                                                                    
streets. Ms.  Goode responded  that her  team had  only been                                                                    
serving  under  the  current   administration  for  about  5                                                                    
months.  The  department  recognized  the  problem  and  was                                                                    
working to address  it. The department was  working with DPS                                                                    
to  actively address  curtailing the  contraband. She  could                                                                    
not  speak to  the actions  of the  previous administration.                                                                    
However,  the current  administration  was  working to  find                                                                    
ways to  address the issue.  Co-Chair Wilson  commented that                                                                    
the  legislature was  happy  to help  encourage  DPS in  its                                                                    
cooperation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Carpenter   asked  a   question   regarding                                                                    
discretionary parole. He  wondered why it a  person would be                                                                    
released on parole with an unaddressed drug problem.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Winkelman  thought the question would  be best addressed                                                                    
to the  parole board.  She offered that  often times  when a                                                                    
parole board  encountered an  individual coming  before them                                                                    
for discretionary parole, they  had to consider the totality                                                                    
of the  circumstances. The recommendation  of when  a person                                                                    
would  be   released  often  required  that   they  complete                                                                    
treatment in a  certain facility in order to  be released. A                                                                    
person could appear  before the parole board  and be granted                                                                    
parole  for  a   later  date  once  a   treatment  plan  was                                                                    
completed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  was hearing that  individuals were                                                                    
paroled  and  placed  on   a  waitlist  for  community-based                                                                    
treatment which did not fit  with what was possible and what                                                                    
Ms. Winkelman  conveyed. Ms. Winkelman explained  that there                                                                    
were  two   types  of   parole,  discretionary   parole  and                                                                    
mandatory parole.  Those persons that were  on discretionary                                                                    
parole  saw   the  parole  board   as  she   had  previously                                                                    
explained. Individuals  with mandatory parole  were released                                                                    
based  on   statute  after   serving  two-thirds   of  their                                                                    
sentence. Individuals  on mandatory parole would  wind up on                                                                    
a waitlist.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter clarified  that those  released on                                                                    
discretionary parole  did not get  released until  they have                                                                    
completed   treatment.    Ms.   Winkelman    replied,   "Not                                                                    
necessarily."  She   noted  that  the  parole   board  would                                                                    
consider the totality of the  circumstances. There were some                                                                    
individuals that were released  that were required to obtain                                                                    
treatment  in their  community and  had  to be  placed on  a                                                                    
waitlist.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  thought he  might need to  talk to                                                                    
the parole  board. He wondered  what the parole  board based                                                                    
its decisions on. Ms. Winkelman was not sure.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson wondered  if some inmates were  kept in jail                                                                    
longer because of a lack  of treatment availability and were                                                                    
required to  complete treatment prior to  release. She noted                                                                    
that  there was  a backlog  for sex  offense treatment.  Ms.                                                                    
Winkelman  deferred to  other  available testifiers  online.                                                                    
Co-Chair Wilson restated her question.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:13:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAM MARTIN, DEPUTY  CHIEF CLASSIFICATION OFFICER, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  CORRECTIONS  (via  teleconference), responded  that  the                                                                    
department  could not  keep an  inmate past  their statutory                                                                    
release  date. In  regard to  discretionary  parole, if  the                                                                    
parole  board  required the  inmate  to  complete a  program                                                                    
prior  to their  release, the  inmate could  be held  either                                                                    
until  the treatment  was complete  or  until the  statutory                                                                    
release date.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  provided   a  hypothetical  scenario.  Ms.                                                                    
Martin explained  that a prisoner on  mandatory parole would                                                                    
be   released   on  their   release   date.   A  person   on                                                                    
discretionary  parole could  be held  until their  mandatory                                                                    
release date.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson asked  if an  inmate could  be released  if                                                                    
their mandatory  release date  came, and  they had  not been                                                                    
able to get  their prescribed treatment in  time. Ms. Martin                                                                    
replied that  the department could not  legally hold someone                                                                    
past their mandatory release date.  The department could not                                                                    
hold someone longer than their sentence.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  commented,  "That  could be  part  of  our                                                                    
problem  too,  then." Ms.  Martin  reiterated  that once  an                                                                    
inmate's release  date was  established on  their timesheet,                                                                    
they had to be released on that date.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson asked  if a person could be  taken back into                                                                    
custody if they did  not complete community-based treatment.                                                                    
Ms.  Martin   responded  that  the   field  probation-parole                                                                    
officer  would  have the  option  to  submit a  petition  to                                                                    
revoke  probation or  send the  person to  the parole  board                                                                    
with a parole violation for failure to complete treatment.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  supposed  the person  would  basically  be                                                                    
taken  back into  custody without  treatment and  spend more                                                                    
time in jail. The idea did not make sense to her.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz returned  to  the  topic of  discretionary                                                                    
parole. He wondered if it was  possible for a prisoner to be                                                                    
transferred to a facility that had treatment available.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Winkelman responded in the affirmative.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter commented  that  inmates could  be                                                                    
transferred between  institutions as  well. He was  aware of                                                                    
that happening on a regular basis.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:17:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  referred to the statute  having to                                                                    
do with  discretionary parole. He read  directly from Alaska                                                                    
Statute 33.16.100.  Under SB  91 for  unclassified felonies,                                                                    
the  most   heinous  crimes,   the  board   might  authorize                                                                    
discretionary parole,  but it might  not. He  continued that                                                                    
for  A, B,  and C  felonies,  which were  very serious,  the                                                                    
board  "Shall"   authorize,  unless  there  was   clear  and                                                                    
convincing  evidence that  the  prison posed  a threat.  The                                                                    
relevant portion  read that the  prisoner must have  met the                                                                    
requirement  of a  case plan  created under  AS 33,  and the                                                                    
case  plan would  have a  treatment recommendation.  It also                                                                    
stated the following:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "If the  board finds that  the incomplete case  plan is                                                                    
     not  the fault  of the  prisoner or  that the  prisoner                                                                    
     would  not pose  a  threat  of harm  to  the public  if                                                                    
     released on parole,  the board may waive  the case plan                                                                    
     requirement."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  explained that the  idea of SB 91  was to                                                                    
not blame  the inmate  if a program  was not  available. The                                                                    
Board of Parole was invited not to blame the inmate.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson   relayed  that  her  bigger   concern  was                                                                    
recidivism and people who were violated as a result.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  about the  mandatory parole                                                                    
date. He wondered if the date  was a part of their sentence.                                                                    
He provided an example. He  thought the right thing would be                                                                    
to  ensure  the  individual   received  treatment  prior  to                                                                    
parole.  He wondered  if  there  was a  process  in which  a                                                                    
conversation  could occur.  Ms.  Winkelman did  not have  an                                                                    
answer for  him. She  relayed that for  an individual  to be                                                                    
released  on mandatory  parole they  needed to  be sentenced                                                                    
for  over  2  years  in   prison.  When  an  individual  was                                                                    
sentenced  for over  2 years,  one-third  of their  sentence                                                                    
would  be  removed. She  deferred  to  Ms. Martin  for  more                                                                    
specifics.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin responded that the  mandatory parole date was the                                                                    
same  as  an  offender's  statutory  release  date.  If  the                                                                    
offender  had not  completed their  program they  had to  be                                                                    
released anyway.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  still  wondered if  there  was  a                                                                    
process to  take the inmate  in front  of the judge  to stop                                                                    
them  from being  released until  they completed  treatment.                                                                    
Ms.  Martin replied,  "Yes." There  was a  mechanism if  the                                                                    
offender  was  court  ordered to  complete  treatment  while                                                                    
incarcerated,  an   important  phrasing  had  to   be  in  a                                                                    
judgement. If the  wording was present, the  inmate could be                                                                    
taken back  to the court  under a probation  violation prior                                                                    
to their release.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson   asked  how  an  offender   could  violate                                                                    
probation if they were still  in the institution. Ms. Martin                                                                    
explained, they would  still be under the  conditions of the                                                                    
judgement which fell under the  court rather than the parole                                                                    
board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson mentioned  that someone  from Akeela,  Inc.                                                                    
would be  calling in  during the  meeting. She  thought they                                                                    
could provide  more information about what  happened between                                                                    
them and DOC. She asked the presenter to continue.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:23:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks continued  with  the  presentation returning  to                                                                    
slide 11.  In 2018,  the department  added a  dual diagnosis                                                                    
program  for inmates  that  had both  a  mental illness  and                                                                    
substance  use  disorders.  It   followed  the  general  and                                                                    
intensive outpatient  models but was tailored  to those with                                                                    
cognitive  disabilities or  mental illness.  The departments                                                                    
residential substance  abuse treatment program was  6 months                                                                    
in length and  was an intense treatment.  She detailed about                                                                    
25  hours per  week  were devoted  to  group and  individual                                                                    
counseling. The Medication  Assisted Treatment (MAR Program)                                                                    
was added in 2017.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks  continued that  along with  the MAR  program the                                                                    
department had Methadone bridging.  There was a large number                                                                    
of individuals  in the community  that were  currently going                                                                    
through Methadone  Treatment. It was a  difficult withdrawal                                                                    
process for someone to enter the  system and be taken off of                                                                    
Methadone.  The department  had worked  out agreements  with                                                                    
community providers for them to  provide Methadone to anyone                                                                    
who  was serving  time  for  less than  30  days.  It was  a                                                                    
significant  change  for  individuals   in  those  types  of                                                                    
programs.   The  department   also  added   a  video   based                                                                    
programming  for  individuals  in  segregation.  It  allowed                                                                    
individuals  in   segregation  to   access  psycho-education                                                                    
services for  substance abuse while they  were spending time                                                                    
in segregation  rather than  until they came  out. It  was a                                                                    
significant change.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks  continued that in  2017, the  department changed                                                                    
the way offenders in halfway  houses accessed treatment. The                                                                    
department  made  agreements  with  community  providers  in                                                                    
several   different   locations   resulting   in   dedicated                                                                    
substance  abuse  treatment  slots   for  individuals  in  a                                                                    
halfway house. Someone  who went to a halfway  house did not                                                                    
have  to   be  waitlisted,   as  certain  spots   were  held                                                                    
specifically for  individuals in halfway houses.  The change                                                                    
was made about 1.5 years prior.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Brooks   reported   adding   peer-based   intervention                                                                    
services.  The  department   had  approximately  36  inmates                                                                    
trained as facilitators  and hoped to expand  the number. It                                                                    
was one  way the department  was trying to address  the lack                                                                    
of  treatment  services available  because  of  the lack  of                                                                    
treatment  providers.  It  did not  replace  true  substance                                                                    
abuse treatment, as  it did not qualify for such  a level of                                                                    
treatment.  However,  it  provided an  additional  layer  of                                                                    
services available to DOC's offender population.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks  conveyed that not everything  the department did                                                                    
resulted  in growth.  She informed  the committee  that when                                                                    
the department closed the  substance abuse treatment program                                                                    
at Spring  Creek and  moved it  to Wildwood,  the department                                                                    
lost  a  number  of  beds   -  about  6  female  residential                                                                    
substance abuse  treatment (RSAT)  beds when men  were moved                                                                    
into Hiland. It  was reversed and was back  to full capacity                                                                    
in Hiland.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:27:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks  moved to slide 12:  "Substance Abuse Assessments                                                                    
and Screenings."  The slide showed  the number  of substance                                                                    
abuse  screenings and  assessments  being done  in the  past                                                                    
couple  of years.  She suggested  the number  would increase                                                                    
significantly  with  the  use   of  the  Continuum  Software                                                                    
because of the resulting streamlining.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Brooks   turned   to  slide   13:   "Substance   Abuse                                                                    
Programming"  which  provided an  overview  of  each of  the                                                                    
different  levels  of care,  where  they  were located,  the                                                                    
number  of beds  in each  location,  and the  length of  the                                                                    
program. She relayed  that the state had over  400 slots for                                                                    
substance  abuse treatment  in custody.  The department  had                                                                    
another 18  furlough treatment  beds available  at Clitheroe                                                                    
Center  and   Akeela,  Inc.  The  department   also  had  58                                                                    
dedicated  treatment  slots  for  people  in  the  community                                                                    
residential centers.  The department  had waitlists  for the                                                                    
programs. At any given time  it had 50-60 people waiting for                                                                    
RSAT  and   about  30   waiting  for   intensive  outpatient                                                                    
treatment.  The psychoeducation  program  did not  generally                                                                    
carry a waitlist  because it was an  open-ended program that                                                                    
anyone could join at any time.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks  advanced to  slide  14:  "FY18 Substance  Abuse                                                                    
Program    Participation"   which    showed   the    program                                                                    
participation for the  past year. She noted  that 458 people                                                                    
completed institutional  substance abuse treatment  in 2018.                                                                    
It did  not include the  furlough or CRC numbers.  She would                                                                    
have recidivism data for the  committee after FY 19 when the                                                                    
3-year cohort could be studied.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks  had  already  covered what  was  on  slide  15:                                                                    
"Medication Assisted Treatment for Reentry (MATR)."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  asked   if   the  governor   was                                                                    
curtailing any of the substance  abuse treatment programs in                                                                    
an effort to  cut the budget. Ms. Brooks had  not seen where                                                                    
any of the  changes were expected to  affect DOC's substance                                                                    
abuse program.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  noted  a representative  from  Akeela  was                                                                    
currently online. She would break  from the presentation for                                                                    
a moment to hear from Ms. Donovan.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:30:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COURTNEY  DONOVAN, AKEELA,  ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference),                                                                    
made herself available.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson   asked  why  Akeela  pulled   out  of  its                                                                    
contract.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Donavan  indicated   that   Akeela's  previous   chief                                                                    
Executive Officer  largely handled the decision  at the time                                                                    
and was available  online. She indicated that it  had been a                                                                    
difficult  decision  for Akeela  to  end  the contract.  She                                                                    
explained that the company  obtained different contracts for                                                                    
each site.  For example, if  the company operated  a program                                                                    
in  the  Anchorage Correctional  Complex  and  in the  Goose                                                                    
Creek  Correctional  Complex  there would  be  two  separate                                                                    
contracts. In  the renewal process  DOC decided to  roll the                                                                    
individual contracts  into one large contract.  By doing so,                                                                    
it made budgeting and program  operations more difficult for                                                                    
Akeela.  It also  impacted the  organization's rate  of pay.                                                                    
She  explained   that  the  rate   of  pay  was   no  longer                                                                    
competitive  with local  providers around  the state.  Also,                                                                    
there  was an  issue in  the contract  around the  amount of                                                                    
hours that  were to  be paid. She  further explained  that a                                                                    
full  time employee  worked 2080  hours per  work year.  The                                                                    
contract reimbursed  for less  than 2080  hours. It  did not                                                                    
allow  for an  employee to  be sick  or on  vacation. Akeela                                                                    
provided approximately  2 weeks  of vacation and  sick leave                                                                    
per year or about 80 hours.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SHANNON    PRITCHETT,    CFO,   AKEELA,    ANCHORAGE    (via                                                                    
teleconference),  relayed  that  in  addition  the  contract                                                                    
required Akeela to have a  floater to fill certain hours. In                                                                    
Alaska trying to find the  qualified staff that was required                                                                    
to  fulfill the  DOC contract  was extremely  difficult. She                                                                    
suggested that if  an employee of Akeela was  sick or trying                                                                    
to take  vacation, they  could submit to  use some  of their                                                                    
hours. For  example, they  could take  8 hours  for vacation                                                                    
leave if  they were  sick for  a day. The  way that  the DOC                                                                    
contract was  written, it did  not allow for the  company to                                                                    
recoup any money  for those 8 hours. At the  end of the year                                                                    
the  amount exceeded  $600,000 for  sick  time and  vacation                                                                    
time  that was  not recouped  by the  contract. The  company                                                                    
could not financially continue the arrangement.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson asked for details  about the program and why                                                                    
Akeela ended the contract.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ROSALIE   NADEAU,  FORMER   CEO,   AKEELA,  ANCHORAGE   (via                                                                    
teleconference), did not  recall the performance statistics,                                                                    
but remembered they were good.  The company was aware it was                                                                    
losing in  excess of $500,000.  She had informed DOC  of the                                                                    
loss. At  the time  of renewal  in May  she and  her deputy,                                                                    
Courtney,   met  with   the  commissioner   and  his   staff                                                                    
explaining the  situation. The  commissioner relayed  he did                                                                    
not expect the  company to lose money on the  contract. In a                                                                    
room  full of  people  he  asked her  to  sign the  contract                                                                    
promising that the  department would pull out if  it did not                                                                    
work to the benefit of  the company. Courtney was present at                                                                    
the  time.  She  trusted  the commissioner  and  signed  the                                                                    
document. She  tried to get  in touch with  the commissioner                                                                    
who would  not return her calls.  When she did get  ahold of                                                                    
him he hung up  on her after she had the  chance to tell him                                                                    
that  her people  had been  trying to  reach him  for months                                                                    
without anything  happening. At the  time she had  secured a                                                                    
lawyer. The  commissioner went  on to  call all  of Akeela's                                                                    
representatives liars.  Some of  the people working  for the                                                                    
commissioner,  who  had  been   at  the  meeting  where  the                                                                    
commissioner made  promises, indicated they were  willing to                                                                    
testify  on   behalf  of  Akeela.  Finally,   she  told  the                                                                    
commissioner that  Akeela could  no longer do  business with                                                                    
the  State  of  Alaska  giving  him a  notice  of  6  weeks,                                                                    
January 1.  The commissioner  responded that  Akeela had  to                                                                    
continue to provide  total programs until January  1 and had                                                                    
only  1 day  to close  down any  operations the  company had                                                                    
within the  institutions. She  relayed that  with facilities                                                                    
throughout the  state it  was a  challenge, but  the company                                                                    
did it. She  conveyed that Akeela had liked  the program but                                                                    
felt  that a  small  non-profit should  not  be expected  to                                                                    
donate over $500,000 per year to the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:39:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston asked if Akeela  had to pay any money to                                                                    
break the  contract. Ms. Nadeau  responded in  the negative.                                                                    
The department  had been aware  that the company  would have                                                                    
gone to court had there been any penalties.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston clarified  that the issue had  not gone to                                                                    
court.  Ms.  Nadeau responded,  "No."  She  offered to  have                                                                    
Akeela's  attorney  provide  additional  background  if  the                                                                    
committee wanted.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  thanked her  for  her  testimony. She  was                                                                    
sorry  Akeela's  program  was   no  longer  in  the  state's                                                                    
facilities. Ms. Nadeau responded, "we're sorry also."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  reported that the  committee would  move on                                                                    
to the sex offender programs.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:40:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks moved to the  section on sex offender management.                                                                    
She specified  that Alaska  had the  highest rate  of sexual                                                                    
assault in  the country. The Department  of Corrections used                                                                    
the  containment supervision  model  for  management of  sex                                                                    
offenders  in communities.  The  containment  model was  the                                                                    
best practice for supervision of  sex offenders and had been                                                                    
proven nationally to be the  most successful at reducing sex                                                                    
crime  recidivism.  The  containment  model  used  specially                                                                    
trained probation  and parole  officers in  conjunction with                                                                    
polygraph  testing   and  focused  cognitive   sex  offender                                                                    
treatment.  Each  sex  offender released  on  probation  was                                                                    
followed  by  the  specially trained  probation  and  parole                                                                    
officers. They  underwent polygraph  testing and  engaged in                                                                    
sex offender treatment in Alaska's communities.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks reported  that there was an  important piece when                                                                    
a sex  offender was  released from  custody called  a safety                                                                    
net. It was  an integral part of their reentry  plan. It was                                                                    
made up  of a group of  leaders such as people  like elders,                                                                    
Village Public  Safety Officers (VPSOs), clergy,  and others                                                                    
who  were aware  of the  crimes  of the  offenders and  were                                                                    
trained  in  recognizing high  risk  behaviors  and help  to                                                                    
support and  monitor the offender  in the  communities. They                                                                    
worked with the probation  and parole officers and treatment                                                                    
providers to keep folks safe in communities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks continued  that the  intensity of  the treatment                                                                    
and the  length of  supervision were key  factors associated                                                                    
with successful management of  sex offenders. She emphasized                                                                    
the importance of the polygraph.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks moved  to slide  17: "Sex  Offender Programming"                                                                    
showing a list of where  Alaska's sex offender programs were                                                                    
available.  She  explained   that  the  department  provided                                                                    
institutional  sex offender  programing  and also  community                                                                    
programs. She reported that  approximately 250 sex offenders                                                                    
were released  each year. The Department  of Corrections had                                                                    
118  institutional programming  slots.  There were  15 in  a                                                                    
halfway  house  and  another 24  spots  by  telehealth.  The                                                                    
telehealth option  was instituted  by the department  in the                                                                    
previous year  for offenders  in rural  communities allowing                                                                    
them  to  remain   in  their  home  community   and  not  be                                                                    
transplanted  to a  larger urban  setting. There  were about                                                                    
170 spots available in communities.  The department had seen                                                                    
its treatment  numbers go  down slightly  in the  prior year                                                                    
because  of a  long-time  treatment  provider retiring.  The                                                                    
caseload for that provider was about 70 people.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks  reported  about  30  offenders  were  currently                                                                    
waitlisted for  community treatment  which took about  90 to                                                                    
120 days  for the  list to  turn over.  There were  about 50                                                                    
offenders  on  any  day waiting  for  in-custody  treatment.                                                                    
Priority  was based  on offenders'  risk factor  and release                                                                    
date. Priority was given to  highest risk sex offenders such                                                                    
as those who  were at highest risk for  violent sex offenses                                                                    
who  had a  shorter anticipated  release date.  The waitlist                                                                    
was constantly  changing because someone who  was considered                                                                    
a higher  risk offender  might leap-frog to  the top  of the                                                                    
list.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson   asked  if  individuals  at   Lemon  Creek                                                                    
Correctional Center  were primarily  released into  the City                                                                    
of  Juneau.   Ms.  Brooks  replied  in   the  negative.  The                                                                    
individuals  would be  returned to  their home  community to                                                                    
participate  in  sex offender  treatment  in  person or  via                                                                    
telehealth.  There  were  not necessarily  released  in  the                                                                    
community where the treatment program was.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:44:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  asked if the  majority of  individuals that                                                                    
were released from  treatment in Juneau ended  up staying in                                                                    
Juneau. Ms. Brooks responded that they were not.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  asked where they went.  Ms. Brooks answered                                                                    
that  they  were  returned  to  their  community  of  arrest                                                                    
regardless  of  where they  served  their  time unless  they                                                                    
chose to  stay in the  community where they  currently were.                                                                    
There might  be some individuals  that would choose  to stay                                                                    
in the  community where they  were incarcerated but,  it was                                                                    
unusual. Most of them chose to go home.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  clarified  that   it  was  the  offender's                                                                    
choice. Ms. Brooks responded, "That's correct."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  asked  how long  the  containment                                                                    
supervision  model  had  been used  in  Alaska.  Ms.  Brooks                                                                    
thought about 10 to 15 years.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks  detailed the  chart on  slide 18:  "Sex Offender                                                                    
Program  Participation." In  FY  18 the  department had  442                                                                    
offenders  in sex  offender  treatment.  She reiterated  the                                                                    
slight  drop due  to  the  70 treatment  slots  lost in  the                                                                    
community. The department had a  completion rate of about 83                                                                    
percent  which was  considered high.  Due to  the length  of                                                                    
treatment  some   offenders  found  it  very   difficult  to                                                                    
complete treatment  the first  time through.  Offenders were                                                                    
allowed to return  to treatment if they  voluntarily left or                                                                    
were  discharged from  treatment. Most  of them  returned to                                                                    
treatment,  as  it was  a  legal  requirement. Most  of  the                                                                    
offenders   eventually   successfully  completed   treatment                                                                    
programming.  She reported  that  discharges from  treatment                                                                    
were  due  to  a   variety  of  things  including  technical                                                                    
violations  and engaging  in high  risk behavior.  They were                                                                    
allowed to eventually return to the program.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brooks  highlighted  that the  slide  also  showed  the                                                                    
number  of  people polygraphed  in  the  previous year.  She                                                                    
reported  that  526  offenders  were  polygraphed  and  were                                                                    
polygraphed approximately  850 times. A large  number of the                                                                    
individuals were polygraphed multiple  times. It depended on                                                                    
the  situation  and  the  results  of  a  polygraph.  If  an                                                                    
individual failed  a polygraph,  they would work  with their                                                                    
treatment provider  and their  probation officer  to address                                                                    
whatever  came  to  light  in the  polygraph  and  would  be                                                                    
polygraphed again at a later time.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brooks highlighted the recidivism  rate for new offences                                                                    
of  13  percent.  The  national   recidivism  rate  for  sex                                                                    
offenders  who had  gone through  the containment  model was                                                                    
about  5  percent.  Alaska's recidivism  rate  for  new  sex                                                                    
offenses was just over 1 percent.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Merrick asked  what kind  of questions  were                                                                    
asked during a polygraph. Ms. Brooks  did not have a list of                                                                    
questions. Ms.  Winkelman also  did not have  a list  of the                                                                    
questions in hand.  However, most of the  time the questions                                                                    
were  based  on  certain  behaviors  observed  by  probation                                                                    
officers.  A  question  might  be  whether  the  person  had                                                                    
contact  with  a  minor,  been in  a  certain  location,  or                                                                    
consumed  alcohol.  The   questions  typically  were  around                                                                    
triggers of  sex offense behavior. Ms.  Brooks indicated Ms.                                                                    
Weiss  was available  to  present the  next  portion of  the                                                                    
slide.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:49:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JANICE  WEISS,  RE-ENTRY  PROGRAM  DIRECTOR,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
CORRECTIONS (via  teleconference), began her portion  of the                                                                    
presentation  by   explaining  that   the  purpose   of  the                                                                    
institutional  programs  was  to  enhance  the  security  of                                                                    
Alaska's institution,  to safeguard the public,  and to help                                                                    
reduce recidivism.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss  moved to  slide  21:  "Program Categories."  The                                                                    
institutional programs  were broken  down into  4 categories                                                                    
including  education,  vocational,  pro-social,  and  faith-                                                                    
based.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss  turned to  slide  22:  "The Offender  Management                                                                    
Plan." She  explained that within the  education program the                                                                    
department tried to tie what  was in the offender management                                                                    
plan which was based on  the risk assessment results. It was                                                                    
very important  to look at  the risk of  someone reoffending                                                                    
when trying  to decide  what programs  the person  should be                                                                    
given.  When an  incarcerated  person was  getting ready  to                                                                    
enroll in some of the  programs, they had the opportunity to                                                                    
talk with several people  including their probation officer,                                                                    
the  education people,  the mental  health  people, and  the                                                                    
housing people  to discuss  what kind  of things  would work                                                                    
best  for them  while  incarcerated. The  idea  was for  the                                                                    
department to  lead inmates  to a  better outcome  when they                                                                    
returned  to  their  communities. She  provided  several  of                                                                    
examples of better outcomes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss  looked more  closely  at  education programs  on                                                                    
slide 23. She  reported that the basis of  any education was                                                                    
for someone  to earn  a high  school education  or a  GED if                                                                    
they did not  have one. The opportunity to obtain  a GED was                                                                    
available in  all institutions. She  had been told  that DOC                                                                    
was  the  third  highest  provider of  the  GED  Program  in                                                                    
Alaska. Of  all GEDs that  were granted within any  year, 15                                                                    
percent of  them came from  someone incarcerated.  Just over                                                                    
100  people per  year  received their  GED  while they  were                                                                    
incarcerated.  Getting   a  GED  was  not   always  an  easy                                                                    
accomplishment. The  state served  approximately 800  to 900                                                                    
people per  year working on  their GEDs.  In order to  get a                                                                    
GED a  person had to pass  4 tests with a  certain score. In                                                                    
order to  take those tests a  person had to be  able to type                                                                    
40 words  per minute.  They often had  to attend  a computer                                                                    
class  first  to  practice   their  keyboarding  and  typing                                                                    
skills.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss continued  that  the  GED was  often  one of  the                                                                    
prerequisites for a person to  be able to participate in one                                                                    
of the  vocational programs.  The vocational  programs tried                                                                    
to  address what  was going  on in  the state  that required                                                                    
more  employees for  a particular  industry. Also  important                                                                    
was determining if a person could  make a living wage at the                                                                    
job  they  could  get  with   the  vocational  training  the                                                                    
department provided.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Weiss referred  to the vocational program  list on slide                                                                    
24. She  pointed out  the extent of  the list.  Overall, DOC                                                                    
offered  about 166  programs for  inmates in  various areas.                                                                    
The heaviest  concentration of programs was  in construction                                                                    
trades  including carpentry,  plumbing, and  electrical. The                                                                    
vocational programs also offered  training in the items that                                                                    
accompanied  the  construction  classes   such  as  OSHA  10                                                                    
training and OSHA  30. The idea was to show  that people had                                                                    
the necessary training to go to work immediately.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:53:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  noted he had  a constituent that  voiced a                                                                    
concern about  a lack  of unified  curriculum in  the prison                                                                    
system  by  facility.  It  created  various  roadblocks  for                                                                    
inmates. He asked if she was aware of such concerns.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss  had  heard  the   concern.  She  explained  that                                                                    
regarding   the  GED,   it  would   be   available  at   any                                                                    
institution. If  someone was  working on  their GED  and was                                                                    
moved to a  different facility, they could  continue to work                                                                    
on  it, as  it  was a  standardized  test with  standardized                                                                    
workbooks. She  thought the inconsistency  might have  to do                                                                    
with  vocational  education  because some  institutions  had                                                                    
different  programs  available  than  another  depending  on                                                                    
their size,  location, and whether they  served long-term or                                                                    
short-term  people.  A  long-term sentence  might  afford  a                                                                    
person  the opportunity  to attend  a 2-year  apprenticeship                                                                    
program and  shorter programs for  people serving  a shorter                                                                    
sentence. She believed the  main concern regarding education                                                                    
within an institution was whether  a person could complete a                                                                    
program that  would lead  to a job  or further  education in                                                                    
the same  area. She  thought it was  important to  work with                                                                    
the  education coordinators  in each  facility to  make sure                                                                    
they were working with inmates on a career path.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz surmised  the state was doing  a better job                                                                    
of  meeting the  particular concern.  Ms. Weiss  answered in                                                                    
the affirmative.  She reported  that from  1996 to  2006 she                                                                    
had served  as the education coordinator  at Hiland Mountain                                                                    
Correctional Center.  Coming into  her current  position she                                                                    
recognized  significant progress  since her  time at  Hiland                                                                    
leading  towards   the  connection  between   community  and                                                                    
institutional  corrections.  She  referenced  receiving  the                                                                    
Second Chance Act grant, which  enabled a contractor to look                                                                    
at  the department's  programs  and  their effectiveness  in                                                                    
reducing   recidivism.  She   thought  the   department  was                                                                    
currently making giant steps.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:57:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss   turned  to  slide  25   and  addressed  general                                                                    
participation requirements  of the education  and vocational                                                                    
programs. The main  goal of the education program  in any of                                                                    
the  institutions  was to  offer  the  chance to  have  some                                                                    
training and  education to anyone  that wanted it.  In every                                                                    
institution  every effort  was  made to  include anyone  who                                                                    
wanted  the opportunity.  She  relayed  that everyone  could                                                                    
work on  their GED  or high  school diploma.  The vocational                                                                    
programs  in  general were  open  to  the sentenced  people.                                                                    
However,  unsentenced could  participate depending  on their                                                                    
location and what  was being offered. She  conveyed that the                                                                    
point  of the  programs was  to have  them open  to as  many                                                                    
people as  possible. She had  been asked how a  person found                                                                    
out  about the  programs. She  offered that  information was                                                                    
posted  on  the  bulletin boards  within  the  institutions.                                                                    
Generally,  the  education  coordinators  would  go  to  the                                                                    
housing units  and talk about  the available  programs. Also                                                                    
information was  spread by word  of mouth. Inmates  that had                                                                    
completed a program  would talk about it  with their friends                                                                    
and  house  mates.  The contractors  offering  the  programs                                                                    
would come  into the facilities  to talk about  the programs                                                                    
to potential participants.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss  discussed  slide   26:  "Pro-Social  and  Extra-                                                                    
Curricular."  In   addition  to   the  GED   and  vocational                                                                    
programs, the  department offered other trainings  that were                                                                    
more difficult  to classify.  She suggested  that pro-social                                                                    
and extra-curricular were other ways  to look at them. Under                                                                    
pro-social programs,  for example, the department  looked at                                                                    
changing the  way someone thought; a  cognitive program such                                                                    
as  criminal attitude  or anger  management. The  department                                                                    
had an  anger management  course offered  through invitation                                                                    
that  was  different than  the  one  offered through  mental                                                                    
health. In most of  the institutions, parenting courses were                                                                    
offered. Re-entry was offered in every institution.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter asked if  the programs were used as                                                                    
incentives for substance abuse,  anger management, and other                                                                    
behavior  modification  programs.  He  wondered  if  inmates                                                                    
could  choose   not  to   participate  in   substance  abuse                                                                    
treatment   programs   but   still  engage   in   vocational                                                                    
rehabilitation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss  responded  that  a   person  would  be  able  to                                                                    
participate in  vocational programs  depending on  what else                                                                    
they  were doing  in the  institution.  Enrollment would  be                                                                    
looked  at  by  the   inmate's  probation  officer  and  the                                                                    
education  department.  If  a  person  had  not  done  their                                                                    
substance abuse  treatment it would be  discussed with them.                                                                    
She  could not  say whether  they would  be allowed  to take                                                                    
another class.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Weiss addressed slides 26  and 27. She reported that one                                                                    
of  the   most  important   programs  DOC  had   inside  the                                                                    
institutions was  the parenting program. She  indicated that                                                                    
760 inmates enrolled in a parenting  course in FY 18 and 410                                                                    
completed it. In  general, in the 24 hour  course there were                                                                    
a couple  of different  curricula used. A  completion number                                                                    
of 410  was very good. In  FY 17 over 1000  inmates enrolled                                                                    
in the  course and 621  completed it. One of  the incentives                                                                    
offered  along  with the  parenting  class  was an  enhanced                                                                    
visiting program. The class offered  the opportunity for the                                                                    
parent  to  do more  bonding  with  their children  if  they                                                                    
completed it.  Enhanced bonding might  include an  extra day                                                                    
of  visitation or  an inmate  being able  to sit  with their                                                                    
child and read a book.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:02:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss continued  to review  programs on  slide 26.  She                                                                    
relayed that  many activities were  used as  incentives such                                                                    
as yoga, orchestra, gardening, and  writing. If inmates were                                                                    
doing  what they  were  supposed to,  they  were allowed  to                                                                    
participate in extra-curricular  activities. She highlighted                                                                    
that the  extra-curricular activities helped  individuals to                                                                    
see  that they  were  not  the center  of  the universe  but                                                                    
members  of  a  team.  It  was a  means  to  addressing  the                                                                    
pro-social risk of returning  to incarceration. She reported                                                                    
that when someone  had the opportunity to be  with people in                                                                    
a  pro-social way,  it helped  them learn  how to  get along                                                                    
with  others as  a  team. She  referenced  an analysis  that                                                                    
concluded  that  inmates  who participated  in  correctional                                                                    
education had a 43 percent  less chance of recidivating that                                                                    
those   who  did   not  participate.   She  concluded   that                                                                    
correctional education  played an important role  in keeping                                                                    
the public safe.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss  turned  to  slide  27:  "Faith-Based  Programs."                                                                    
Faith-based  programs were  available in  every institution.                                                                    
Every group was able to  do something within their own space                                                                    
within an  institution. The options  were open  for whatever                                                                    
someone might need while they  were incarcerated. There were                                                                    
some  institutions   that  had   housing  units   that  were                                                                    
completely  faith-based and  had  activities  such as  bible                                                                    
studies and services  available. Many faith-based volunteers                                                                    
go into the  facilities. She noted that as  part of reentry,                                                                    
the  reentry  programs  relied  on  faith-based  communities                                                                    
outside of the institutions  to participate with people that                                                                    
were incarcerated.  She stressed  the importance  of keeping                                                                    
the connection  from the  inside to  the outside  to curtail                                                                    
recidivism.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Weiss moved  to the  CRC  programing on  slide 29.  She                                                                    
explained that much  of what the halfway  houses offered was                                                                    
similar to what was  offered while people were incarcerated.                                                                    
It  was  a good  continuum  of  the  kind of  education  and                                                                    
information  that  people  were getting  while  incarcerated                                                                    
that continued into their community.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson asked  about  drum circle  and civil  world                                                                    
under  NorthStar.  Ms. Weiss  was  not  familiar with  civil                                                                    
world. Regarding  drum circle,  an effort  was made  in some                                                                    
communities  with larger  populations  of  native people  to                                                                    
address cultural things.  A drum circle would  be a cultural                                                                    
education program.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  pointed  out   that  substance  abuse  and                                                                    
behavioral health were the largest  issues. She wondered why                                                                    
there were not inpatient  programs included. Ms. Weiss could                                                                    
not answer the question.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson noted  that no  one else  had been  able to                                                                    
either.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  if programming  was at  the                                                                    
discretion of  the CRC. He wondered  how it came to  be that                                                                    
the program,  Living in Balance,  was offered. He  asked why                                                                    
behavioral health was not being offered.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:08:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Weiss was not able to answer the question.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Winkelman  thought Ms.  Martin could  speak to  what the                                                                    
CRCs offered and  why. Ms. Martin asked for  the question to                                                                    
be repeated.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  restated his question.  Ms. Martin                                                                    
thought  that some  of it  was compelled  to encourage  more                                                                    
programming  at the  halfway house.  Many of  the facilities                                                                    
that  were Geo  [The  GEO  Group, Inc.  -  a same  community                                                                    
reentry  center corporation]  facilities  used the  programs                                                                    
that were part  of Alaska's CRC programs.  The programs were                                                                    
included to provide more options for halfway houses.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  reported that the state  rewrote a contract                                                                    
in Juneau  that removed treatment  and raised the  amount of                                                                    
money the state  paid per person to $158. She  asked why the                                                                    
state would  do such  a thing. Ms.  Martin could  not answer                                                                    
the  question,  as she  was  not  involved in  the  contract                                                                    
negotiation process.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  wanted committee  members to be  aware that                                                                    
the  state   had  opened   negotiations.  She   agreed  with                                                                    
Representative Josephson that the  state could write the CRC                                                                    
contracts  anyway it  needed. She  was  frustrated with  the                                                                    
underutilization  of halfway  houses and  thought the  state                                                                    
was missing out on an opportunity.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Weiss concluded the presentation.  She conveyed that one                                                                    
of the things that was  very important to the administration                                                                    
was a review of the  programs that were being offered inside                                                                    
the  institutions  to   determine  their  effectiveness  and                                                                    
whether they  addressed risks of recidivism.  The department                                                                    
would be  conducting a review  over the following  1.5 years                                                                    
particularly under the Second Chance Grant.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:12:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  noted  that  most  of  the  CRC's                                                                    
included  Alcoholics Anonymous  or Narcotics  Anonymous with                                                                    
the exception of Bethel which  he thought was concerning. He                                                                    
asked  about  inmates  being  trained  as  facilitators.  He                                                                    
thought it  appeared some  inmates wanted to  be of  help in                                                                    
some capacity.  He asked  if a  mentor program  was possible                                                                    
for  long-term inmates  that  wanted to  make  an impact  on                                                                    
another person's  life. He  asked if  the opportunity  for a                                                                    
long-term  inmate  to  get in  front  of  the  pre-sentenced                                                                    
inmates to form a mentorship opportunity.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Weiss responded  positively. She thought it  was fair to                                                                    
say  that  inmates  wanted  to help  each  other,  and  that                                                                    
mentorship was  a popular  thing to  do. The  department was                                                                    
making  the opportunity  available  especially to  long-term                                                                    
inmates.   She  reported   that  peer   mentorship  was   an                                                                    
established  part  of  programs at  many  institutions.  She                                                                    
suggested  that it  would continue  to be  standardized. She                                                                    
noted  there was  always the  availability for  peers to  do                                                                    
tutoring for basic education.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter wondered if  there was a program or                                                                    
a  concerted  deliberative  effort  to  get  the  first-time                                                                    
offender  connected   with  a  long-term   sentenced  inmate                                                                    
establishing  a  mentorship.  He  believed  a  crashing  and                                                                    
building   up  needed   to  occur   for  an   individual  to                                                                    
successfully  rehabilitate themselves.  The mentorship  goal                                                                    
would be to wake up the newer inmate.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Weiss could not speak  to a specific location or program                                                                    
using  the  deliberate process  he  was  talking about.  She                                                                    
offered  that  she  was  aware of  many  places  using  peer                                                                    
mentoring as  a way  of assisting people  into incarceration                                                                    
and  reentry.  She  indicated  that  base  communities  were                                                                    
involved  in  preparing people  for  reentry.  She would  be                                                                    
happy to  look into  any programs that  deliberately address                                                                    
the question Representative Carpenter  was asking. She asked                                                                    
for  any  additional  input   from  testifiers  online.  Ms.                                                                    
Winkelman   suggested  asking   Ms.   Link,  the   probation                                                                    
supervisor.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:17:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TARYN LINK, PROBATION  SUPERVISOR, DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                    
(via teleconference),  noted the  peer mentor  programs that                                                                    
she was  aware of were  tied to substance  abuse programming                                                                    
or the transformational living community.  She was not aware                                                                    
of  any  other  pure   mentor  programs  targeted  at  newly                                                                    
arriving inmates.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter commented  that  it  was a  missed                                                                    
opportunity.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  conveyed  that, regarding  programing  for                                                                    
Seaside, there  was an intensive outpatient  substance abuse                                                                    
program  at   the  CRC  through  the   Norton  Sound  Health                                                                    
Corporation. She  thought similar programs could  be applied                                                                    
in  other areas.  She wanted  to see  additional data  about                                                                    
what  programs were  working. She  expressed concerns  about                                                                    
DOC having  the expertise  to provide the  needed behavioral                                                                    
health programs,  as the State  of Alaska, being  the number                                                                    
one provider for behavioral health.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson indicated the committee  was out of time and                                                                    
would  not  be hearing  the  scheduled  presentation on  the                                                                    
unsentenced prison  population. She  explained that  she had                                                                    
looked at the presentation  and discovered it only contained                                                                    
a  portion  of the  information  she  was looking  for.  She                                                                    
suggested  that   45  percent   of  Alaska's   inmates  were                                                                    
unsentenced sitting  in institutions.  There were  2000 more                                                                    
people  awaiting pre-trial  under supervision  or electronic                                                                    
monitoring. There  were additional  people out on  their own                                                                    
reconnaissance or bailed  out prior to becoming  part of the                                                                    
system. She  posed the  question whether  it was  the system                                                                    
that was the problem.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  noted  over 5,000  individuals  that  were                                                                    
currently in  the system  but not  sentenced. The  state was                                                                    
looking at  adjusting its crime  levels, but  if individuals                                                                    
could not  get through the  system, the state needed  to fix                                                                    
it.  She  wondered  if  money  was the  issue.  If  so,  she                                                                    
wondered  what area  needed more  money. Presently,  she was                                                                    
uncomfortable adjusting  the criminal  code until  there was                                                                    
an understanding  of the  problem. It  was not  about blame,                                                                    
but about getting out of the  silo the state had been in for                                                                    
a significant amount of time.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:21:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  was   reminded  that  there  were                                                                    
vacancies for  several deputy  commissioners within  DOC. He                                                                    
wondered if the department could comment.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  directed  Ms.  Goode  to  respond  to  the                                                                    
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Goode did not have any information.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  suggested that there was  no great                                                                    
story, rather the positions simply  had not been filled. Ms.                                                                    
Goode replied that she did  not know of any forward movement                                                                    
in  filling the  positions. Her  understanding was  that two                                                                    
individuals had  been pulled  out of  retirement to  get the                                                                    
department running but did not know anything else.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  asked Ms.  Goode to  explain the  duties of                                                                    
the two  deputy commissioners. Ms. Goode  responded that one                                                                    
deputy was over the Division  of Institutions which also had                                                                    
a director,  Dean Marshall. There was  a deputy commissioner                                                                    
of  parole  and  probation.   Currently,  the  division  had                                                                    
Director Winkelman in place.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   commented    that   the   other                                                                    
departments had filled out the upper echelon. He did not                                                                        
understand why the positions had not been filled.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson reviewed the agenda for the afternoon                                                                           
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:24:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 11:24 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CSSSHB 3 Explanation of Changes Ver M to Ver U 4.16.2019.pdf HFIN 4/25/2019 9:00:00 AM
HB 3
CSSSHB 3 Sectional Analysis 4.17.2019.pdf HFIN 4/25/2019 9:00:00 AM
HB 3
HB 3 Sponsor Statement 4.16.2019.pdf HFIN 4/25/2019 9:00:00 AM
HB 3
SSHB 3 Explanation of Changes Ver A to Ver M 3.27.2019.pdf HFIN 4/25/2019 9:00:00 AM
HB 3
HB 3 NEW FN DOR TT PFD.pdf HFIN 4/25/2019 9:00:00 AM
HB 3
Unsentenced - 4.24.19 FINAL.pdf HFIN 4/25/2019 9:00:00 AM
HFIN-DOC
DOC Programs (2) 4.23.19.pdf HFIN 4/25/2019 9:00:00 AM
HFIN
HB 3 NEW FN DNR MLW.pdf HFIN 4/25/2019 9:00:00 AM
HB 3