Legislature(2017 - 2018)HOUSE FINANCE 519

01/18/2017 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:35:00 PM Start
01:39:04 PM Fall 2016 Revenue Forecast Presentation
03:30:57 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Fall 2016 Revenue Forecast by Randall Hoffbeck, TELECONFERENCED
Commissioner & Dan Stickel, Chief Economist
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 18, 2017                                                                                           
                         1:35 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:35:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:35 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Paul Seaton, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Les Gara, Vice-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Jason Grenn                                                                                                      
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Randall Hoffbeck,  Commissioner, Department of  Revenue; Dan                                                                    
Stickel,   Assistant   Chief    Economist,   Tax   Division,                                                                    
Department of Revenue; Paul Decker,     Division of Oil and                                                                     
Gas, Department of Natural  Resources; David Teal, Director,                                                                    
Legislative Finance  Division(LFD); Rob  Carpenter, Analyst,                                                                    
Legislative  Finance  Division; Kelly  Cunningham,  Analyst,                                                                    
Legislative  Finance   Division;  Lacey   Sanders,  Analyst,                                                                    
Legislative   Finance  Division;   Amanda  Ryder,   Analyst,                                                                    
Legislative  Finance  Division;   Alexie  Painter,  Analyst,                                                                    
Legislative   Finance  Division;   Danith  Watts,   Analyst,                                                                    
Legislative  Finance   Division;  Helen   Phillips,  Finance                                                                    
Committee    Assistant,   Legislative    Finance   Division;                                                                    
Representative Delena  Johnson; Representative  Dan Saddler;                                                                    
Representative Collen  Sullivan-Leonard; Representative Lora                                                                    
Reinbold;                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Fall 2016 Revenue Forecast Presentation                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton   introduced  the  committee   members  and                                                                    
indicated the committee would be  doing a significant amount                                                                    
of work  in the session.  He was hoping the  committee would                                                                    
concentrate on responsible  budget reductions and developing                                                                    
a  sustainable fiscal  plan. He  introduced his  staff, Joan                                                                    
Brown  and  Arnold Liebelt,  who  would  be working  on  the                                                                    
operating  budget. Taneeka  Hansen would  be helping  with a                                                                    
sustainable fiscal plan and  other legislation. Jenny Martin                                                                    
was his  office manager  and the  contact for  reserving the                                                                    
House  Finance  room. Tom  Spitzfaden  was  a University  of                                                                    
Alaska  intern   who  would  be   doing  a  little   bit  of                                                                    
everything.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  introduced his staff. Paul  Labolle was his                                                                    
Chief  of  Staff  and  aide for  the  capital  budget.  Jane                                                                    
Pierson   was   his    finance   committee   aide   handling                                                                    
legislation. Brodie  Anderson was  his aide for  the finance                                                                    
subcommittees  for  the  Department  of  Transportation  and                                                                    
Public  Facilities (DOT)  and the  Department  of Labor  and                                                                    
Workforce Development  (DOL). Graham Judson was  his aide to                                                                    
the   finance    subcommittee   for   the    Department   of                                                                    
Environmental Conservation (DEC).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton acknowledged  Representative Kawasaki at the                                                                    
table.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz introduced his  staff, Mary Hakala, who                                                                    
was  his finance  subcommittee aide  for  the Department  of                                                                    
Education and Early Development (DEED).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt introduced  Dirk  Craft, his  finance                                                                    
aide.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  introduced his staff. He  was proud                                                                    
to  have an  intern,  William Jodwalis,  in  his office  who                                                                    
would  be   following  the  finance  subcommittee   for  the                                                                    
Department of  Military and Veterans Affairs  (DMVA). Ashley                                                                    
Strauch would be working on  the finance subcommittee budget                                                                    
for the  Department of Public  Safety (DPS).  Olivia Garrett                                                                    
would be working on the  finance subcommittee budget for the                                                                    
Department  of Corrections(DOC).  Mercedes  Colbert was  his                                                                    
Chief of  Staff and  would be  monitoring the  activities of                                                                    
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:39:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson introduced  Remond Henderson who would                                                                    
be her aide for the House Finance Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara was happy to  be working with the members of                                                                    
the  committee. He  encouraged anyone  listening with  ideas                                                                    
for the budget to contact him,  as he was happy to hear from                                                                    
them.  Molly Carver  and Laura  Cartier  were his  committee                                                                    
aides.   He   clarified   the   correct   pronunciation   of                                                                    
Representative Guttenberg's name.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tilton  reported that Heath Hilyard  would be                                                                    
her finance aide.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Grenn introduced  his staff,  Brook Ivy  and                                                                    
Joseph Cassie.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Guttenberg   introduced  his   staff,   Tom                                                                    
Atkinson  and  Seth Whitten.  He  also  indicated having  an                                                                    
intern,  Alliana  Salanguit,  who was  currently  in  Norway                                                                    
working on Artic Policy issues.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Thompson  introduced   his  aide,   Brandon                                                                    
Brefcznski. He  looked forward to working  with everyone. He                                                                    
encouraged the chair to introduce the finance room staff.                                                                       
He                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton asked David Teal to introduce his staff.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  TEAL,  DIRECTOR, LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION(LFD),                                                                    
invited his staff to introduce themselves.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ROB  CARPENTER,   ANALYST,  LEGISLATIVE   FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
worked on  the capital budget, the  supplemental budget, and                                                                    
the budgets for the  Department of Transportation and Public                                                                    
Facilities (DOT) and the Department of Revenue (DOR).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KELLY  CUNNINGHAM,  ANALYST, LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
was the  fiscal notes  coordinator and  was involved  in the                                                                    
budgets  for  the Department  of  Public  Safety (DPS),  the                                                                    
Department of Corrections (DOC), and Judiciary (JUD).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LACEY  SANDERS,   ANALYST,  LEGISLATIVE   FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
coordinated  the  operating  budget   and  helped  with  the                                                                    
budgets for the Department  of Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                    
(DMVA)  and  the  Department   of  Commerce,  Community  and                                                                    
Economic Development.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA RYDER, ANALYST,  LEGISLATIVE FINANCE DIVISION, helped                                                                    
with the  budgets for  the Department  of Health  and Social                                                                    
Services (DHSS) and the Department of Fish and Game (DFG).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ALEXIE PAINTER,  ANALYST, LEGISLATIVE FINANCE  DIVISION, was                                                                    
the analyst for the budgets  for the Department of Education                                                                    
and   Early   Development    (DEED),   the   Department   of                                                                    
Environmental  Conservation  (DEC),  and the  Department  of                                                                    
Natural Resources (DNR).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DANITH   WATTS,  ANALYST,   LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE   DIVISION,                                                                    
assisted   with   the   budgets  for   the   Department   of                                                                    
Administration (DOA), the Department  of Labor and Workforce                                                                    
Development  (DOL), the  Department  of Law  (LAW), and  the                                                                    
University of Alaska (UA).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  asked  Helen  Phillips  to  introduce  her                                                                    
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HELEN  PHILLIPS,  FINANCE COMMITTEE  ASSISTANT,  LEGISLATIVE                                                                    
FINANCE DIVISION,  introduced herself; Bree Wylie  and Jodie                                                                    
McDonnell, committee secretaries; and Donna Page, the page.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton asked if Ms.  Phillips wanted to provide any                                                                    
information to members.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Phillips indicated  that she  and her  staff were  non-                                                                    
partisan support  staff for  the finance  committee employed                                                                    
within the  Legislative Finance Division. She  and her staff                                                                    
worked at  the direction of  the co-chairs of  House Finance                                                                    
and   provided   operational,  clerical,   and   secretarial                                                                    
support.  They  assisted  with logistical  issues  including                                                                    
hearing preparation, bill files,  minutes, and supplies. All                                                                    
policies went  through the  co-chairs' office.  She reviewed                                                                    
the  room  protocol.  She advised  that  no  one,  including                                                                    
staff,  was  allowed  to  approach   the  table  during  the                                                                    
meetings.  The   page  was  available  to   pass  notes  for                                                                    
legislators.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Phillips mentioned a few  items regarding recording. She                                                                    
reminded members  that the little  red light meant  that the                                                                    
meeting was being  recorded. In using the mics,  it was best                                                                    
to  speak  directly  into  them about  6  inches  away.  She                                                                    
advised that to have  a private conversation, members needed                                                                    
to  push  the  button  and  hold  it  down  to  avoid  being                                                                    
recorded.  She  provided  information  about  the  resources                                                                    
available  to committee  members. There  were three  sets of                                                                    
statutes  located  around  the  room  [she  pointed  to  the                                                                    
various locations].  She also highlighted  that there  was a                                                                    
set  of  detail  budget  books  in the  room,  and  in  each                                                                    
member's drawer  an LFD overview  and a copy of  the Revenue                                                                    
Sources Book  could be found.  There was  also a set  of the                                                                    
administrative  codes  in the  room.  For  new members,  she                                                                    
reported that  each member  had a  filing cabinet  which was                                                                    
behind  where they  were seated.  The cabinets  were labeled                                                                    
with  member  names. Bills  in  committee  were in  the  top                                                                    
drawer  and bills  reported  out of  committee  were in  the                                                                    
bottom  drawer. Bill  files were  placed in  the top  drawer                                                                    
once  they were  scheduled. Overview  documents went  in the                                                                    
bottom once they were heard.  Prior to the meeting schedule,                                                                    
members  could find  bills  for the  following  week in  the                                                                    
front  of their  top drawer,  scheduled by  day. The  weekly                                                                    
schedule  was delivered  via email  to everyone's  office as                                                                    
soon as it was published.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:46:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  asked if  the finance  committee staff                                                                    
would be available for the subcommittee meetings.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Phillips responded  her staff's  duties were  typically                                                                    
related  to the  House  Finance Committee  room. However,  a                                                                    
member's staff  would be  informed about  the ways  in which                                                                    
her staff provided support.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton pointed  out  that members  had a  document                                                                    
titled,  "House  Committee  Rules."  Co-Chair  Foster  would                                                                    
review the rules with members.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster read from a  prepared statement on the House                                                                    
Finance Committee Rules:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Time:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     House Finance  meets in Room  519 at 1:30 p.m.  to 3:30                                                                    
     p.m.  (longer  meetings  and additional  meeting  times                                                                    
     will  be  scheduled   when  necessary).  All  committee                                                                    
     members shall  be on time  to committee.  Please notify                                                                    
     the appropriate Co-Chair if you  must be absent from or                                                                    
     leave during a meeting:                                                                                                    
     Representative   Seaton,  Operating   and  Supplemental                                                                    
     Budgets                                                                                                                    
     Representative Foster, Legislation and Capital Budget                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     If  not  able to  be  in  attendance, let  the  Chairs'                                                                    
     offices know where  you can be reached in  case you are                                                                    
     needed for  a vote  or to  establish a  quorum. Members                                                                    
     must  be present  to vote  on  passage of  a bill  from                                                                    
     committee and to sign committee reports.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     If you are requesting an  excused absence from the Call                                                                    
     of the  House, both  House Finance Co-Chairs  must sign                                                                    
     the form and approve the absence from committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Committee Quorum and Voting Rules:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     A quorum  of the  majority of the  committee membership                                                                    
     (six  members)  is  necessary  to   vote  or  take  any                                                                    
     committee action.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     If fewer  than eleven  members are present,  motions to                                                                    
     amend may be adopted by  a majority of those present or                                                                    
     attending telephonically.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Members   participating  via   teleconference  may   be                                                                    
     considered for the purposes  of establishing quorum and                                                                    
     for  passage of  amendments.  Attached is  a memo  from                                                                    
     Legal Services regarding committee quorum.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Conflicts of Interest / Abstention from Voting:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     It is  not required to  request to abstain  from voting                                                                    
     to  report a  bill from  committee due  to conflict  of                                                                    
     interest. However,  if members would like  to declare a                                                                    
     conflict  of  interest  and  request  to  abstain  from                                                                    
     voting, they may.                                                                                                          
     Amendments:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Amendments  should  be  drafted  by  Legislative  Legal                                                                    
     Services to  ensure conformity and legality.  This will                                                                    
    facilitate the transmittal of amended legislation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     All amendments  to legislation must be  turned into the                                                                    
     appropriate Co-Chair's  office at least 24  hours prior                                                                    
     to an amendment hearing in  House Finance. This will be                                                                    
     strictly  enforced.   We  will   hold  bills   over  if                                                                    
     amendments need  to be  done but  are not  submitted 24                                                                    
     hours ahead.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Committee Reports:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Members must  be present to sign  the committee report.                                                                    
     Please  do  not  leave  the room  before  signing  (see                                                                    
     attached legal memo).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Draft House Finance Committee Substitutes:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Only the  Co-Chairs and their  staff may  request draft                                                                    
     House Finance Committee Substitutes.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Participation:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     All  committee members  are requested  to  be on  time.                                                                    
     When  necessary,  and  with notice  to  the  Co-Chairs,                                                                    
     members  may participate  via teleconference.  They may                                                                    
     vote  on   amendments  and  participate   in  committee                                                                    
     debate. However,  members may not  vote to move  a bill                                                                    
     from committee. A member must  be physically present to                                                                    
     vote  on the  passage  of a  bill  from committee  (see                                                                    
     attached legal memo).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Notice Requirements:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Written notice  of the time, place,  and subject matter                                                                    
     of all House Finance  Committee meetings shall be given                                                                    
     in accordance with Rule 23 of the Uniform Rules.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Electronic Devices:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Members  may   not  use   electronic  devices   at  the                                                                    
     committee table during  official committee business. If                                                                    
     a person's cell  phone goes off in  committee they will                                                                    
     be  required  to bring  a  healthy  snack to  the  next                                                                    
     meeting,   no  doughnuts   or  cookies.   Additionally,                                                                    
     electronics  will not  be  allowed to  be  used by  the                                                                    
     audience in the front row during committee business.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Other:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Committee alternates will be called to serve on the                                                                        
     Finance Committee at the discretion of the Co-Chairs.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked if members had any questions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:51:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt asked  if it  was acceptable  to wear                                                                    
"Make America  Great Again"  hats. It  was not  addressed in                                                                    
the rules.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Seaton  indicated   that   advertising  was   not                                                                    
generally permitted. Hats without advertising were allowed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson asked  about bill  substitutions. She                                                                    
asked  if  committee members  would  be  given materials  24                                                                    
hours to  review prior to  voting on  a bill. She  wanted to                                                                    
establish a  24-hour period  for members  to review  a bill,                                                                    
especially ones with substantial changes.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  indicated  the  co-chairs had  not  had  a                                                                    
chance  to  discuss  the issue.  Their  intention  was  that                                                                    
everyone would have  all the materials in plenty  of time to                                                                    
review them.  However, the chairs  would have to  talk about                                                                    
it.  If the  committee  adopted amendments  and rolled  them                                                                    
into a committee substitute, the  whole committee would have                                                                    
heard  and seen  all  the provisions,  therefore, a  24-hour                                                                    
provision might not be necessary.  The intention was for all                                                                    
members  to  have  adequate time  to  review  anything  that                                                                    
passes from the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton reviewed the agenda for the meeting.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
^Fall 2016 Revenue Forecast Presentation                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:54:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton asked Commissioner  Hoffbeck if he preferred                                                                    
questions be held until the end.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RANDALL  HOFFBECK,  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT  OF  REVENUE,                                                                    
introduced himself  and indicated he preferred  questions at                                                                    
the end due to the number of slides in the presentation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  encouraged members  to note the  pages they                                                                    
had  questions  about.  He mentioned  that  he  wanted  page                                                                    
numbers  on all  the slides  in presentations.  It was  much                                                                    
easier to  reference a slide  number when  asking questions.                                                                    
He reiterated that questions would  be held until the end of                                                                    
the presentation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:56:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck  was going to  make a couple  of brief                                                                    
statements  and  then  turn the  presentation  over  to  Mr.                                                                    
Stickel. He  informed the committee that  in Revenue Sources                                                                    
Book  there was  a major  change in  methodology in  how DOR                                                                    
forecasted  production. In  the past,  DOR had  used outside                                                                    
contractors   to   do   the  production   forecasting.   The                                                                    
Department  of Revenue  saw an  opportunity  in the  current                                                                    
year,  because  of  the need  to  reduce  spending  wherever                                                                    
possible  and  the  fact  that   the  current  contract  had                                                                    
expired, to  work with the  Department of  Natural Resources                                                                    
(DNR)  who  did  forecasting.   The  Department  of  Natural                                                                    
Resources' numbers  were used for the  official forecast for                                                                    
DOR. The  change saved the  state about $100,000.  He wanted                                                                    
to  put  the  forecast  into  perspective:  for  FY  17  the                                                                    
production forecast  was 490,300 barrels per  day. Currently                                                                    
the  production  average  for the  year  was  about  510,000                                                                    
barrels per  day - about  4 percent more than  the forecast.                                                                    
He  reported that  production  was  currently running  about                                                                    
550,000  per day.  In March,  April,  May, and  June he  saw                                                                    
declines  in production  with warming  on  the North  Slope.                                                                    
Although production was currently  robust, the average would                                                                    
not be determined  until the end of the year.  He noted that                                                                    
it was currently running higher than forecasted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  relayed  that Representative  Johnson  and                                                                    
Representative Saddler were in the audience.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck continued that  the price forecast for                                                                    
FY 17  was $46.81. The  price year-to-date was  $46.92, very                                                                    
close  to  the  forecast.  The price  of  oil  was  bouncing                                                                    
between $52 and $54. The forecast  was done prior to the Oil                                                                    
Producing  and  Exporting   Countries  (OPEC)  agreement  to                                                                    
reduce production.  He thought  prices would  average higher                                                                    
than forecasted by  the end of the year,  which would result                                                                    
in more revenue to the state.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton   relayed  that   Representative  Sullivan-                                                                    
Leonard had joined the meeting.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Hoffbeck  furthered   that  there   were  two                                                                    
additions to  the Revenue Sources  Book. First, there  was a                                                                    
new  chapter,  Chapter  1,  which  specifically  dealt  with                                                                    
dedicated  fund  revenue  available for  appropriation.  The                                                                    
book   generally  dealt   with  unrestricted   general  fund                                                                    
revenue. However, clarity and  documentation were needed for                                                                    
meetings with investors and  rating agencies. The discussion                                                                    
pointing  to  funds  available  for  appropriation  included                                                                    
unrestricted general  funds (UGF), realized earnings  of the                                                                    
Alaska Permanent  Fund (PF), earnings of  the Constitutional                                                                    
Budget  Reserve (CBR),  and earnings  from other  funds that                                                                    
were  statutorily  or  customarily  restricted  rather  than                                                                    
constitutionally  restricted.   He  added  that   Chapter  3                                                                    
focused on  income tax and  sales tax. It included  a ground                                                                    
work discussion for a broad-based tax.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:00:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  STICKEL,  ASSISTANT   CHIEF  ECONOMIST,  TAX  DIVISION,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF    REVENUE,   introduced    the   PowerPoint                                                                    
Presentation: "Fall  2016 Revenue  Forecast". He  noted that                                                                    
the department  came up with  a robust deck of  slides, some                                                                    
of which he would be glossing  over. He was happy to revisit                                                                    
any of them later.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton acknowledged  Representative Lora  Reinbold                                                                    
in the audience.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  began  with  slide  3:  "FORECASTING  METHODS:                                                                    
Trends for Forecast Period":                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   Oil Price is projected to increase 7 percent on average                                                                      
   over the forecast period (FY 2017-2026)                                                                                      
     · Oil Production is projected to decrease 4 percent on                                                                     
        average over the forecast period                                                                                        
     · Unrestricted General Fund Revenue is projected to                                                                        
        increase 5 percent on average over the forecast                                                                         
        period                                                                                                                  
     · Investment Income is projected to increase 5 percent                                                                     
        on average over the forecast period                                                                                     
     · Total State Revenue is projected to increase 2                                                                           
        percent on average over the forecast period                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  advised that the  slide showed a list  of high-                                                                    
level trends.  The average oil  price in  FY 16 was  $43 per                                                                    
barrel. The  fall forecast anticipated an  increase of about                                                                    
7  percent annually  over the  following decade.  In FY  16,                                                                    
North Slope oil production  averaged 515,000 barrels per day                                                                    
and the department was forecasting,  on average, a 4 percent                                                                    
annual decline over the following  decade. He continued that                                                                    
UGF revenue in FY 16  was about $1.5 billion. The department                                                                    
anticipated increases  of about 5 percent  annually over the                                                                    
following decade.  He indicated  that investment  income was                                                                    
growing at about  5 percent annually. The  largest piece was                                                                    
the  Permanent Fund.  He noted  that any  of the  investment                                                                    
numbers were  before any potential  changes that  were being                                                                    
discussed in  the current session.  The total  state revenue                                                                    
was projected to  increase by about 2  percent annually over                                                                    
the following decade,  which was a little bit  less than the                                                                    
unrestricted  revenue  amount.  The department  had  a  flat                                                                    
forecast for federal revenue.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  turned  to   slide  4:  "FORECASTING  METHODS:                                                                    
Introduction":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   All data is based on the DOR Fall 2016 Forecast.                                                                             
     · This is a forecast. All figures and narratives in                                                                        
        this document that are not based on events that have                                                                    
        already occurred, constitute forecasts  or "forward-                                                                    
        looking statements."  These numbers  are projections                                                                    
        based  on  assumptions  regarding  uncertain  future                                                                    
        events and  the  responses  to  those  events.  Such                                                                    
        figures are, therefore, subject to uncertainties and                                                                    
        actual results will differ,  potentially materially,                                                                    
        from those anticipated.                                                                                                 
     · This forecast supersedes all prior estimates or                                                                          
        forecasts  as   the   official   forecast   of   the                                                                    
        department. Therefore, all prior forecasts should be                                                                    
        used only for comparison purposes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  elaborated that the slide  was the department's                                                                    
standard  disclaimer. The  large  point was  that there  was                                                                    
uncertainty  around   the  forecast  and  all   the  numbers                                                                    
presented  by   the  department  represented   one  possible                                                                    
scenario  within a  range of  scenarios. The  department had                                                                    
already talked about how prices  and production were doing a                                                                    
little better  for the current fiscal  year than anticipated                                                                    
at  the  time  the  forecast  was  put  together.  He  asked                                                                    
committee members to keep that  in mind in going through the                                                                    
forecast numbers.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel continued  to  slide  5: "FORECASTING  METHODS:                                                                    
What Do We Forecast at DOR":                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     We directly forecast Petroleum Revenue Accounted for                                                                       
     72% of state unrestricted revenue in FY 2016                                                                               
     Projected to  be 67  percent to 68  percent in  FY 2017                                                                    
     and  FY  2018   Includes  severance  taxes,  royalties,                                                                    
     corporate income  tax, and all  other revenue  from oil                                                                    
     companies                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
       · We directly forecast Non-Petroleum Revenue                                                                             
        · We   use   investment    advisor   forecasts   for                                                                    
          Investment Revenue                                                                                                    
        · We use the Federal Revenue authorized for                                                                             
          spending as the forecast It is typically 20                                                                           
          percent to 30 percent more than actually gets                                                                         
          spent                                                                                                                 
        · Compile all of these into Revenue Sources Book                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  reported  that  the  economic  research  group                                                                    
within the  Tax Division  at DOR  maintained models  for the                                                                    
various petroleum taxes and  other petroleum revenue sources                                                                    
as  well   as  non-petroleum   revenue  sources.   They  are                                                                    
forecasted within  DOR. The division worked  with the Alaska                                                                    
Permanent Fund Corporation (APFC)  and the Treasury Division                                                                    
to determine the investment revenues  for the forecast. They                                                                    
utilized projections from  Callan Associates, the investment                                                                    
consultant  to both  organizations. He  indicated that  when                                                                    
looking at  the federal  revenue forecast the  division used                                                                    
the total authorized federal spending  in the budget. It did                                                                    
not  attempt to  estimate  what the  federal government  was                                                                    
going  to provide  to the  state in  the future.  Typically,                                                                    
actual receipts  were a little  less than the  total federal                                                                    
authorization.  Historically,   it  had  been   about  20-30                                                                    
percent less.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  moved to slide 7:  "PETROLEUM REVENUE FORECAST:                                                                    
Factors":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   Four Factors for Petroleum Revenue Forecast                                                                                  
     1. Production                                                                                                              
     2. Price                                                                                                                   
     3. Costs                                                                                                                   
        · Capital Expenditures                                                                                                  
        · Operating Expenditures                                                                                                
        · Transportation Costs                                                                                                  
     4. Credits                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  explained that, for  many years,  the petroleum                                                                    
revenue provided  80-90 percent of the  state's general fund                                                                    
(GF)  revenue. Looking  out  over the  time  horizon of  the                                                                    
forecast,  the  number  was  expected to  be  closer  to  70                                                                    
percent.   It  was   still   the   largest  contributor   to                                                                    
unrestricted  revenue  by  far.   There  were  four  primary                                                                    
factors  the  department  considered  when  looking  at  the                                                                    
petroleum revenue  forecast. Oil  production and  price were                                                                    
very  important. Given  the net  value-based production  tax                                                                    
the state  had, the lease expenditures  were deductible. The                                                                    
department  looked  at  capital costs  and  operating  costs                                                                    
which were  also important  for tax  credits. He  added that                                                                    
the   credits  themselves   were   deductible  against   the                                                                    
production tax and  some might be repurchased  by the state.                                                                    
He would  walk through each  of the four components  in more                                                                    
detail in the following set of slides.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:05:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel spoke to slide  9: "PRODUCTION FORECAST: Methods                                                                    
Used."  He  explained  that  the  slide  looked  at  several                                                                    
different components  of the production forecast.  It showed                                                                    
DNR's new approach to the  forecast versus the method of the                                                                    
previous   engineering   consultant.   One   of   the   most                                                                    
significant changes was moving  from a well-by-well forecast                                                                    
to a pool level forecast  by DNR. Another significant change                                                                    
was that the  previous forecast had a  10-year time horizon.                                                                    
Any project  expected to come  on line in the  following ten                                                                    
years would  be evaluated for  the forecast. The  new method                                                                    
had a 5-year time horizon.  Therefore, the forecast was only                                                                    
looking  at current  oil production  and fields  expected to                                                                    
come on line  in the following 5 years. He  thought it was a                                                                    
salient point.  However, with  implementing this  method for                                                                    
the fall forecast, the department  did not drop anything out                                                                    
of the forecast.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel advanced to slide  10: "PRODUCTION FORECAST: ANS                                                                    
History  and Forecast  by Pool."  He drew  attention to  the                                                                    
familiar mountain chart which  showed North Slope production                                                                    
by the  major fields  since the start  of production  on the                                                                    
slope. Production  peaked at  2 million  barrels per  day in                                                                    
the late 1980s  and, with a few exceptions  (last year being                                                                    
one  of  them  and  the  start of  the  Alpine  field  being                                                                    
another),  production had  generally been  in decline  since                                                                    
the peak. The  state was now looking at  500,000 barrels per                                                                    
day of  production. Recently, it  had been  slightly higher.                                                                    
He  added  that  the  forecast  over  the  following  decade                                                                    
anticipated an average  of a 4 percent  annual decline. Most                                                                    
of  the production  in the  forecast was  still coming  from                                                                    
major  fields of  Prudhoe, Kuparuk,  and the  Colville River                                                                    
Unit.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel explained that in  putting the forecast together                                                                    
the   department   looked   at  production   and   potential                                                                    
production in 4 different  categories which he would review.                                                                    
The   categories  included:   currently  producing,   under-                                                                    
development, under  evaluation, and  fields not  included in                                                                    
the current forecast.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel scrolled  to  slide  11: "Production  Forecast:                                                                    
Currently Producing":                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Volumes from Currently Producing (CP):                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        · Oil from all currently producing pools and wells                                                                      
        · Decline curve analysis forecast at pool level                                                                         
          inherently    includes     'background'    ongoing                                                                    
          development activity, facility maintenance, turn-                                                                     
          around events                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  reported   that  currently  producing  volumes                                                                    
included all  oil from currently producing  pools and wells.                                                                    
The  Department of  Natural Resources  used a  decline curve                                                                    
analysis on  the pool  level to  estimate production  on the                                                                    
currently  producing  fields.  It  also  assumed  a  certain                                                                    
amount of  background development. For example,  for a field                                                                    
like  Prudhoe Bay  there was  a certain  amount of  drilling                                                                    
that  would occur  of which  the department  extrapolated an                                                                    
estimate forward based on historical activity.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  turned  to  the next  category  on  slide  12:                                                                    
"Production Forecast: Under Development":                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Volumes from Under Development (UD):                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        · Ongoing development wells in existing, mature                                                                         
          fields above and beyond CP                                                                                            
        · New fields expected to produce within 1 year (by                                                                      
          6/30/2017)                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  explained that  with  the  new methodology  it                                                                    
represented  oil  volumes expected  to  come  on within  the                                                                    
following year -  new fields expected to come on  by the end                                                                    
of  FY  17  as  well  as any  development  wells  above  the                                                                    
background  level of  drilling  in the  existing fields.  He                                                                    
cited  the  example  of an  under-development  project,  the                                                                    
continued build out of the CD5 in the Colville River Unit.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel continued  to slide  13: "Production  Forecast:                                                                    
Under Evaluation":                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Volumes from Projects Under Evaluation (UE):                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        · New fields  expected to  produce within  2-5 years                                                                    
          (7/1/2017 to 6/30/2021)                                                                                               
        · UE 1: Facilities in  place, significant sunk cost,                                                                    
          well locations finalized, drilling plans in place                                                                     
             · Examples: Nuna, GMT1, Mustang, Moraine, 1H                                                                       
               NEWS, Nuiqsut expansion                                                                                          
        · UE  2:   Facility-sharing  agreements   in  place,                                                                    
          source of funding identified, EIS progress                                                                            
             · Example: GMT2                                                                                                    
        · Risk  factors internalized  in  forecast based  on                                                                    
          breakeven price                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  relayed that the  projects under  evaluation in                                                                    
the fall forecast were anything  expected to come on line in                                                                    
the following 2-5 years, through the  end of FY 21. He noted                                                                    
the Oooguruk Unit,  the Kuparuk Unit, the  Mustang Unit, the                                                                    
Greater  Moose's  Tooth  Unit, and  the  National  Petroleum                                                                    
Reserve Alaska (NPRA). The Greater  Moose's Tooth Unit would                                                                    
be the first major development on federal land in NPRA.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel advanced  to  slide  14: "Production  Forecast:                                                                    
Excluded from Forecast":                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Characteristics:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        · Unknown  first-oil date/estimated  greater than  5                                                                    
          years                                                                                                                 
        · Discovery (contingent resource)  or just prospects                                                                    
          (prospective resource)                                                                                                
        · Uncertain  finances  (e.g., sourcing  for  private                                                                    
          equity)                                                                                                               
        · Facilities incomplete or nonexistent                                                                                  
        · Projects in Appraisal                                                                                                 
        · Technological Uncertainty                                                                                             
        · Environmental/Permitting Uncertainty                                                                                  
        · Economic Uncertainty                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Examples: Pikka, Ugnu, Placer, Tofkat, Pt Thomson (MGS                                                                     
     or full-cycling), Liberty, Fiord West, Smith Bay                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel specified  that the  fourth category  was those                                                                    
things  excluded  from the  forecast.  There  had been  many                                                                    
recent  announcements  that  were  very  exciting,  and  the                                                                    
department  was  monitoring  them  with the  hopes  of  them                                                                    
coming on  line. However,  they were  projects that  did not                                                                    
have enough  of a level of  certainty to be included  in the                                                                    
forecast  yet. The  department had  a  list of  some of  the                                                                    
various   types  of   uncertainty  around   those  projects.                                                                    
Typically,  they  would be  projects  that  would start  oil                                                                    
production  5 years  or more  into the  future. Examples  of                                                                    
projects  not included  in the  forecast  were Pikka,  Ugnu,                                                                    
Smith Bay, and Willow.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:10:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   reviewed  slide  15:   "Production  Forecast:                                                                    
Official   Forecast."   He   conveyed  that   the   official                                                                    
production forecast consisted  of currently producing, under                                                                    
development, and under evaluation categories.                                                                                   
Mr.  Stickel scrolled  to  slide  16: "Production  Forecast:                                                                    
ANS." He relayed that the slide  showed that most of the oil                                                                    
in  the forecast  was from  the  currently producing  fields                                                                    
(Prudhoe, Kuparuk,  Colville River, and some  of the smaller                                                                    
fields). Alaska  had a  small amount  of oil  that qualified                                                                    
for  the under  development category  of projects  coming on                                                                    
line  in the  following year  and a  modest amount  of under                                                                    
evaluation oil peaking at about 30,000 barrels per day.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  explained slide  17: "Production  Forecast: DOR                                                                    
Cases":                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   High Case (P10):                                                                                                             
     · Based on DNR modeling, oil production would have a                                                                       
      10 percent probability of exceeding this level                                                                            
   Official Forecast (P50):                                                                                                     
     · Based on DNR modeling, oil production would have an                                                                      
        equal probability of coming in above or below this                                                                      
        level                                                                                                                   
   Low Case (P90):                                                                                                              
     · Based on DNR modeling, oil production would have a                                                                       
        90% probability of exceeding this level.                                                                                
   Note: None of the cases include any of the "Excluded from                                                                    
   forecast window" fields                                                                                                      
     · With these fields, production could exceed the high                                                                      
        case                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  relayed  that  in  addition  to  the  baseline                                                                    
forecast, the DNR  modeling allowed for a  range of possible                                                                    
values  for  the  production  forecast.  The  Department  of                                                                    
Natural Resources provided  a P50, which was  the base case.                                                                    
The  department   also  provided  a  high   case  production                                                                    
forecast  [P10], which  (based on  the activity  set in  the                                                                    
forecast) had  a 10 percent probability  of production being                                                                    
base case  level or higher.  The department also  provided a                                                                    
low case (P90) where there was  a 90 percent chance that oil                                                                    
production  would  be  at  least the  base  case  value.  He                                                                    
reiterated that  the modeling only encompassed  those fields                                                                    
included  in the  production forecast.  It did  not comprise                                                                    
any of the excluded fields.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel continued  to slide  18: "Production  Forecast:                                                                    
ANS by  Case." He  noted that in  the official  forecast oil                                                                    
production would  decline to about  331,000 barrels  per day                                                                    
by 2026. In  looking at the high and the  low case, based on                                                                    
the DNR modeling,  it was a plus or minus  of 40,000 barrels                                                                    
per day.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel spoke  to slide  19: "Production  Forecast: ANS                                                                    
Details."  He  conveyed that  the  chart  provided the  same                                                                    
information supplied  in the previous  slide but in  a table                                                                    
form. The  slide came  from page 37  of the  Revenue Sources                                                                    
Book. He  added that it  showed the amount eligible  for the                                                                    
gross value  reduction (GVR), an  element of  the production                                                                    
tax  that  allowed for  an  additional  benefit for  certain                                                                    
qualifying new  production. He  highlighted that  the amount                                                                    
of GVR  went to zero in  2026 due to some  changes that were                                                                    
made in  the 2016  legislative session establishing  a limit                                                                    
on the amount of time fields could qualify for the GVR.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  turned to slide  20: "Production  Forecast: ANS                                                                    
Comparison  to Prior  Forecast." He  relayed that  the slide                                                                    
was  a comparison  of the  official forecast  from the  fall                                                                    
forecast  to  the  spring  forecast   for  the  North  Slope                                                                    
production  over  the  near   and  midterm.  The  production                                                                    
forecast  had  been  decreased from  the  previous  forecast                                                                    
because there  had been a  reduction in planned  drilling in                                                                    
some  of the  plans  of development  from  the operators  in                                                                    
response to  low oil  prices. He  noted some  projects being                                                                    
pushed out  and some  rigs being taken  down in  response to                                                                    
low prices. Over  the long term there was  a slight increase                                                                    
over the  previous forecast partially  due to  some projects                                                                    
being  pushed  out later  and  remnants  of the  methodology                                                                    
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel   introduced   slide  22:   "Price   Forecast:                                                                    
Historical  ANS  West  Coast, West  Texas  Intermediate  and                                                                    
Brent Crude Prices  2009+." The chart showed  the previous 8                                                                    
years of  Alaska North  Slope (ANS)  prices. It  also showed                                                                    
the West  Texas Intermediate, which  was the US  crude bench                                                                    
mark,   and  Brent,   an   international  waterborne   crude                                                                    
benchmark.  He  highlighted  that  from 2011  to  2013  toil                                                                    
prices were  fairly stable, making forecasting  prices easy.                                                                    
However,  prices   started  to   decline  in   mid-2014  and                                                                    
throughout  2015.  Since  then,   2016  had  seen  a  modest                                                                    
recovery. Prices had doubled from  their lows reached in the                                                                    
beginning of 2016.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   reviewed  some  of   the  key   drivers  when                                                                    
evaluating  ANS prices  in slide  23:  "Price Forecast:  Key                                                                    
Drivers":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   Supply, Demand and Spare Capacity in CY 2017                                                                                 
     · Supply - 97.4 mb/d                                                                                                       
     · Demand - 96.9 mb/d                                                                                                       
     · Global Spare Capacity - 1.17 mb/d or 1.2%                                                                                
   Current Events                                                                                                               
     · Weak global demand growth                                                                                                
     · Cost of supplying the marginal barrel has decreased                                                                      
     · OPEC (Saudi Arabia) maintains market share and                                                                           
        accepts lower prices OPEC recently agreed to cut                                                                        
        supply                                                                                                                  
     · Cost of supply has fallen as new sources have been                                                                       
        defined and developed (i.e. Shale oil)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   indicated  that  the  drivers   included  the                                                                    
fundamentals of supply and demand  as well as spare capacity                                                                    
- the amount  of slack in the market to  pick-up a potential                                                                    
increase  in  demand or  a  potential  shock to  supply.  He                                                                    
elaborated that spare capacity was  fairly low by historical                                                                    
standards, but at the same  time demand growth had been weak                                                                    
globally. Some  of the major  producers had aimed  to secure                                                                    
market  share. At  the same  time  the costs  of new  supply                                                                    
dropped. In the  shale patch, in particular,  there had been                                                                    
some amazing changes in technology  and approaches that were                                                                    
allowing some  of the developments  to come on line  at much                                                                    
lower prices than previously.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:15:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  moved to slide 24:  "Price Forecast: Historical                                                                    
ANS  West Coast  Price 2015+."  He reported  that the  slide                                                                    
showed key  events over  the previous  2 years.  He reported                                                                    
that  the  prior day's  closing  ANS  price was  $54.83  per                                                                    
barrel and the low in  early 2016 reached $26.23 per barrel.                                                                    
Prices  had more  than doubled  from  the low.  The low  was                                                                    
reached at the same time  sanctions were lifted against Iran                                                                    
and  there was  significant concern  that Iranian  oil could                                                                    
flood  the   market.  Since  then,  demand   had  come  back                                                                    
slightly, although not to the extent projected.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  reviewed slide 25:  "Price Forecast:  Impact of                                                                    
Spare  Capacity." He  reported that  the slide,  provided by                                                                    
Energy  Information Agency  (EIA), was  used for  comparison                                                                    
purposes. It  was an  example of  the slides  the department                                                                    
looked  at  when  coming  up   with  a  price  forecast.  He                                                                    
highlighted   the   blue   line  (representing   world   oil                                                                    
production)  being ahead  of  the  green line  (representing                                                                    
world  oil  consumption).  Globally,   the  world  had  been                                                                    
placing  oil  into  inventory for  the  previous  couple  of                                                                    
years. He explained  when there was too much  supply and not                                                                    
enough  demand,  prices  adjusted  accordingly.  Looking  at                                                                    
their  analysis  of the  market  fundamentals,  the EIA  and                                                                    
several other experts were looking  for supply and demand to                                                                    
come  into  balance over  the  following  year, which  would                                                                    
support price stability.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel discussed slide 26:  "Price Forecast: Base Price                                                                    
Method":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · Price forecast is based on fall 2016 forecasting                                                                           
     session held on October 4                                                                                                  
   · Participants gave 10th, 50th, and 90th percentile                                                                          
     paths                                                                                                                      
   · Average of these paths used to derive PERT                                                                                 
     distribution                                                                                                               
   · Base case is the median of the distribution                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel detailed  what the  department did  to generate                                                                    
its forecast.  About 30  experts from  around the  state got                                                                    
together for  the day.  People from DOR,  DNR, DOL,  and the                                                                    
University of  Alaska discussed oil  prices, what  was going                                                                    
on with  supply and demand,  and what other  forecasters and                                                                    
analysts  were   saying.  At  the   end  of  the   day  each                                                                    
participant was  asked for a  price path  forecast. Everyone                                                                    
provided their most likely P50 case,  a high case, and a low                                                                    
case. The  cases were  used to  construct a  distribution of                                                                    
potential oil price paths shown on the following slide.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  advanced to slide 27:  "Price Forecast: Nominal                                                                    
ANS Price Distribution." He indicated  the forecasts were in                                                                    
nominal terms.  He pointed out  that in  the low case  of 10                                                                    
percent, oil  prices ended  at about  $50 in  FY 27.  In the                                                                    
high  case,  oil prices  were  up  over $140.  The  official                                                                    
forecast was the  middle most likely median  case within the                                                                    
range  of  possible oil  prices.  Prices  slowly climbed  to                                                                    
reach a little  over $90 in nominal terms by  the end of the                                                                    
forecast  period.  In  real terms,  without  inflation,  the                                                                    
price amounted to about $70 to $75.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  drew attention  to the bar  chart on  slide 28:                                                                    
"Price  Forecast: Historical  ANS  West Coast  Price FY  Oil                                                                    
Price  Bands (Annual  Average and  Fall 2016  Forecast)." He                                                                    
reported  that the  chart spoke  to some  of the  incredible                                                                    
stability in  oil prices Alaska  had until the  recent price                                                                    
collapse. The  historical bars  on the  chart through  FY 16                                                                    
showed the average price for the  fiscal year as well as the                                                                    
range in prices. For example,  in 2015 the average price was                                                                    
a little more than $70 per  barrel. It ranged from about $50                                                                    
and $110  in the  year. He continued  that for  the forecast                                                                    
for  2017  and  beyond  the  bars  represented  the  state's                                                                    
official forecast within the range  of the high and low case                                                                    
forecast for each year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  moved to slide  29: "PRICE  FORECAST: Consensus                                                                    
View of  Wide Distribution."  He noted  that the  slide came                                                                    
from  EIA. The  Department  of Revenue  was forecasting  ANS                                                                    
prices at  $47 per barrel for  FY 17 and $54  per barrel for                                                                    
FY 18.  He included the slide  to show that EIA  and the New                                                                    
York  Mercantile Exchange  (NYMEX)  futures  curve both  had                                                                    
similar  prices for  the following  year and  a half  in the                                                                    
range of  between $50 to  $55 per  barrel were in  a similar                                                                    
price  range. He  spoke  to uncertainty  on  the chart  that                                                                    
reflected a price  range of between $30 to  $100 per barrel.                                                                    
The department was doing its best.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:20:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  advanced to slide  30: "Price  Forecast: Impact                                                                    
of  other prices  in FY  2017: ANS  Price Sensitivity."  The                                                                    
table was  prepared in the  prior month and  included actual                                                                    
prices for the first 5  months of the year through November.                                                                    
It allowed the  user to determine the final price  for FY 17                                                                    
if  a given  price was  in place  for the  remainder of  the                                                                    
year.  The forecast  price was  $46.81  which anticipated  a                                                                    
price  of between  $45-$50 for  the  remainder of  FY 17  to                                                                    
arrive at the price. Currently,  prices were closer to about                                                                    
$55 per barrel. In looking at  the chart, if prices were $55                                                                    
per barrel for the remainder of  FY 17, then the final FY 17                                                                    
price of about $51 per barrel  would be about $4 to $5 above                                                                    
the official forecast.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  explained  the  chart   on  slide  31:  "Price                                                                    
Forecast:  ANS  Comparison  to Prior  Forecast."  The  chart                                                                    
compared the  official price  forecast for  the fall  to the                                                                    
previous spring  forecast. He noted  that with  the recovery                                                                    
and some of  the market fundamentals, there  was an increase                                                                    
in  the  forecast for  all  of  the  years within  the  time                                                                    
horizon.  However, prices  were  not expected  to reach  the                                                                    
$100 per barrel level any time soon.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel moved  to costs  on slide  33: "Cost  Forecast:                                                                    
North Slope  Capital Lease  Expenditures." He  iterated that                                                                    
company   lease   expenditures   were  deductible   in   the                                                                    
production tax  calculation. The expenditures  also factored                                                                    
into   several  of   the  tax   credits.  Costs   were  also                                                                    
interesting  as a  barometer of  oil  industry activity.  He                                                                    
highlighted that for  2017 and 2018 there  was a significant                                                                    
reduction to capital  costs on the North  Slope. He informed                                                                    
the  committee  that when  the  department  talked with  the                                                                    
companies,  they indicated  that  it was  their response  to                                                                    
lower  oil  prices.  They  had taken  rigs  off  the  slope,                                                                    
shelved  some projects,  and pushed  some  things off  where                                                                    
possible.  However,   there  were  several   projects  going                                                                    
forward.  He   mentioned  some   of  the   announcements  of                                                                    
companies taking  activity down  to save some  capital which                                                                    
could be  seen reflected in the  production forecast through                                                                    
reduced drilling.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel continued  to slide  34: "Cost  Forecast: North                                                                    
Slope Operating  Lease Expenditures."  He reported  that the                                                                    
operating  costs  had also  come  down  for 2017  and  2018.                                                                    
Projections  for  operating  costs  were down  due  to  cost                                                                    
containment  measures  that  the  companies  were  pursuing.                                                                    
There had been some layoffs  and similar actions. He noted a                                                                    
little  bit  of an  increase  starting  in 2019,  which  was                                                                    
largely a function of inflation.  In real terms, he expected                                                                    
operating costs to be fairly flat.  He noted that on both of                                                                    
the cost  slides he pointed  out it  did not include  any of                                                                    
the potential  development costs should a  Smith Bay, Pikka,                                                                    
or Willow Unit come on line.  Those costs would be above and                                                                    
beyond what was shown on the slides.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:24:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  detailed slide 36: "Credits  Forecast: Compared                                                                    
with Production Tax." He reported  that tax credits were the                                                                    
fourth and final  piece of the petroleum  revenue puzzle. He                                                                    
indicated  that  in  the  production  tax  code  there  were                                                                    
numerous tax credits,  which he was not  planning to discuss                                                                    
in detail.  He was happy  to speak  to the committee  on the                                                                    
subject  at a  different time.  In general,  there were  tax                                                                    
credits  that  could be  used  against  a tax  liability.  A                                                                    
company that paid  tax and had enough activity  in the state                                                                    
to generate a tax liability  could use the credits to reduce                                                                    
what they paid to the state.  Some of the credits could also                                                                    
be  repurchased by  the  state in  cash.  For instance,  the                                                                    
state could repurchase  tax credits from a  company that did                                                                    
not have a tax liability or  one that did not have enough to                                                                    
use all  of their tax credits.  If a company drilled  a well                                                                    
and earned  a loss  credit on  it, they  could apply  to the                                                                    
state  to have  that  credit purchased  in  cash. The  slide                                                                    
showed both types  of credits. He pointed out  that the blue                                                                    
lines for  2016, 2017, and  2018 showed the  total estimated                                                                    
production tax to  the state before any  credits. The orange                                                                    
bar showed the production tax  net of only those tax credits                                                                    
against  liability. In  other words,  it was  how much  cash                                                                    
payments  came into  the  state as  revenue.  The third  bar                                                                    
depicted in  grey netted the  credits that  were repurchased                                                                    
by the  state in cash.  They came out on  the appropriations                                                                    
side.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   explained  that   the  credits   program  was                                                                    
offsetting the  production tax revenue. He  highlighted that                                                                    
for FY  17 and FY  18 the  department only assumed  that the                                                                    
statutory  appropriation  for  credits was  made.  He  would                                                                    
discuss the  issue in  the following  slide in  more detail.                                                                    
Under  the oil  and gas  tax credit  fund statute  there was                                                                    
statutory  language that  the legislature  would appropriate                                                                    
either  10  percent or  15  percent  of the  production  tax                                                                    
revenue to the  oil and gas tax credit fund  for purposes of                                                                    
purchasing those  tax credits. In  that case, at the  end of                                                                    
FY  18  the state  would  have  about  $887 million  of  tax                                                                    
credits available for repurchase.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  advanced  to   slide  37:  "Credits  Forecast:                                                                    
Compared with Unrestricted  Petroleum Revenue." He explained                                                                    
that  the slide  addressed the  same chart  as the  previous                                                                    
chart but  looked at  total unrestricted  petroleum revenue,                                                                    
which   included  the   production  tax,   the  unrestricted                                                                    
royalty, the corporate income tax,  and the property tax. He                                                                    
highlighted  that  even  after   all  of  the  credits  were                                                                    
claimed,  the  industry would  still  be  providing over  $1                                                                    
billion in  unrestricted revenue to  the state in FY  18. If                                                                    
the department were  to provide a third  chart that included                                                                    
restricted revenue (the portion of  the royalty that went to                                                                    
the permanent  fund, the settlements  to the CBR,  and other                                                                    
accounts), the number would be higher.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  moved  on  to  slide  38:  "Credits  Forecast:                                                                    
Outstanding  Tax Credit  Obligations." He  offered that  the                                                                    
department  set  up the  oil  and  gas  tax credit  fund  to                                                                    
repurchase  tax credits  from those  companies that  did not                                                                    
have   enough   of  a   tax   liability   to  offset   them.                                                                    
Historically,  through  FY   16,  the  legislature  provided                                                                    
enough funding  and the  governor authorized  enough funding                                                                    
to  repurchase  those   credits  in  full.  In   FY  16  the                                                                    
appropriation was $500 million, which  turned out to be just                                                                    
enough to pay  what came in for requests. However,  in FY 17                                                                    
after a veto,  only $30 million was  appropriated. There was                                                                    
$646  million  in  credits   available  for  repurchase  and                                                                    
requested for FY 17 that was not  able to be paid out of the                                                                    
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   indicated  that  for  FY   18,  assuming  the                                                                    
statutory  appropriation  would  be   made  (15  percent  of                                                                    
production tax  revenue) there would  be about  $885 million                                                                    
in outstanding  tax credits available for  repurchase at the                                                                    
end of FY  18. He furthered that in carrying  it out through                                                                    
the  end  of the  forecast  period,  if only  the  statutory                                                                    
appropriation was  made for each  year, the  liability would                                                                    
continue to grow to about $1.6 billion by the end of FY 26.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:29:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   advanced  to  slide  40:   "Forecast  Change:                                                                    
Production Tax Revenue Highlights":                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   Oil price forecasts increased slightly from spring                                                                           
   forecast                                                                                                                     
     · Long-term prices (FY2025+) now expected to settle                                                                        
        around $70- 75 real                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   Change to oil production forecast methods                                                                                    
     · Forecast now produced by technical experts at DNR                                                                        
     · FY 2017-18 forecasts decreased, long-term forecast                                                                       
        increased slightly                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   Unrestricted revenue forecast increased somewhat due to                                                                      
   higher oil price forecast                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   Capital expenditures stabilize at lower level than last                                                                      
   few years                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   Companies cited oil prices and uncertainty regarding the                                                                     
   state budget and fiscal system, as factors impacting                                                                         
   decision-making                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  conveyed  that the  following  set  of  slides                                                                    
offered  some  comparisons  to   the  previous  Spring  2016                                                                    
forecast  in terms  of the  petroleum revenue  forecast. Oil                                                                    
prices  were increased  slightly over  the spring  forecast.                                                                    
The  production forecast  for 2017  and  2018 was  decreased                                                                    
slightly while the  long-term production forecast increased.                                                                    
He   continued  that   the  unrestricted   revenue  forecast                                                                    
increased  slightly  due  to   the  higher  oil  price.  The                                                                    
department expected that capital  expenditures would fall in                                                                    
2017 and 2018 and stabilize thereafter.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  continued  to   slide  41:  "Forecast  Change:                                                                    
Comparison  from  Spring  2016  Forecast for  FY  2017."  He                                                                    
reported that there  were a couple of tables  that looked at                                                                    
some  of  the  detailed  data  for FY  17  and  FY  18.  The                                                                    
department increased  the oil price  forecast by  20 percent                                                                    
in  FY  17  and  decreased  its  production  forecast  by  3                                                                    
percent.  He noted  that  the  deductible lease  expenditure                                                                    
deserved  some   explanation.  There   were  two   ways  the                                                                    
department  presented  lease  expenditures  in  the  Revenue                                                                    
Sources  Book. The  first  way was  looking  at total  lease                                                                    
expenditures  including operating  and capital  expenditures                                                                    
in the  oil patch. The  second way the  department presented                                                                    
lease  expenditures   was  to   look  at   deductible  lease                                                                    
expenditures; how  much of the  total expenditures  could be                                                                    
used  by  a  company  to   offset  a  positive  revenue.  He                                                                    
concluded  that even  though  the  department's forecast  of                                                                    
total expenditures  decreased for  FY 17, with  the increase                                                                    
in  gross  value   and  oil  price,  the   amount  of  lease                                                                    
expenditures  deductible  against  the tax  increased  by  9                                                                    
percent.   The   state's   transportation   costs   forecast                                                                    
decreased slightly. In total,  the forecast for the wellhead                                                                    
value  of crude  oil  on  the North  Slope  increased by  34                                                                    
percent  and  the  unrestricted petroleum  revenue  forecast                                                                    
increased by 37 percent or  $262 million. The department was                                                                    
currently forecasting  just shy of  $1 billion for FY  17 in                                                                    
unrestricted petroleum revenue.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel  turned   to  slide   42:  "Forecast   Change:                                                                    
Comparison  from  Spring  2016  Forecast for  FY  2018."  He                                                                    
reported that  the estimated wellhead for  North Slope crude                                                                    
oil  increased 36  percent. The  department was  forecasting                                                                    
unrestricted  petroleum  revenue for  FY  18  at about  $1.1                                                                    
billion, a 40 percent increase over the previous forecast.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  scrolled to slide  44: "Revenue  Forecast: 2016                                                                    
to 2018  Totals." He explained  that throughout  the Revenue                                                                    
Sources  Book,   with  the  exception  of   Chapter  1,  the                                                                    
department followed  the budget conventions  in consultation                                                                    
with  LFD and  the Office  of Management  and Budget  (OMB).                                                                    
There were  4 categories of revenue  included. He elaborated                                                                    
that  UGF revenue  was revenue  available for  appropriation                                                                    
for any  purpose and  was typically  discussed the  most. He                                                                    
reported that  unrestricted revenue  was about  $1.5 billion                                                                    
in FY  16 and the  department was forecasting about  $1.4 in                                                                    
FY 17  and $1.6 in FY  18. The next category  of revenue was                                                                    
designate   general   funds   (DGF).   There   was   not   a                                                                    
constitutional   prohibition  against   it,   but  DGF   was                                                                    
customarily more  statutorily used  for a  specific purpose.                                                                    
He  cited the  alcohol tax  as an  example. He  relayed that                                                                    
half  of  the alcohol  tax  revenue  was  UGF and  half  was                                                                    
customarily  appropriated  to  the alcohol  and  other  drug                                                                    
abuse treatment  and prevention fund. Even  though the money                                                                    
was  customarily   sent  to   that  fund,   the  legislature                                                                    
technically had  the discretion to  spend it on  whatever it                                                                    
wanted.   the  federal   government  dictated   how  federal                                                                    
revenue,  the  third category,  could  be  spent. The  final                                                                    
category  was other  restricted revenue,  which was  revenue                                                                    
throughout   the  budget   process  viewed   as  "hands-off"                                                                    
funding. It  was revenue that  had a constitutional  or debt                                                                    
covenant  prohibition  against  the  use  of  it  for  other                                                                    
purposes.  He provided  some examples:  oil  revenue to  the                                                                    
Permanent Fund, settlements to the  CBR fund, and other non-                                                                    
oil examples.  Non-oil examples  included revenue  that went                                                                    
to  the  Alaska  Fish  and   Game  fund,  different  program                                                                    
receipts,  and investment  revenue (earnings  on the  PF and                                                                    
the  CBR).   The  department  historically  and   in  budget                                                                    
documents  considered those  items  to  be other  restricted                                                                    
revenue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:34:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  pointed to  slide  45:  "Revenue Forecast:  By                                                                    
Spending  Category." He  explained that  the slide  showed a                                                                    
10-year  history  and forecast  of  the  same total  revenue                                                                    
picture the committee had just  looked at. The total revenue                                                                    
was expected to  grow over the time horizon  of the forecast                                                                    
and  was largely  driven by  expected  growth in  investment                                                                    
revenue  from the  investment portfolio.  He noted  that the                                                                    
investment portfolio  had been  the most volatile  source of                                                                    
revenue for the prior 10 years.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  explained slide 46: "Revenue  Forecast: 2016 to                                                                    
2018   General  Fund   Unrestricted   Revenue  (GFUR)."   He                                                                    
mentioned having  talked a lot about  petroleum revenue. The                                                                    
state  also   had  non-petroleum  revenues   including  non-                                                                    
petroleum corporate income taxes,  mining license taxes, and                                                                    
marijuana  taxes.   The  Marijuana  tax  was   new  and  had                                                                    
generated some  interest. The state  had received  its first                                                                    
set of  collections in Marijuana  taxes, half of  which were                                                                    
considered  unrestricted revenue  and  half were  considered                                                                    
designated restricted revenue. He  continued that there were                                                                    
several other  taxes the department administered  as well as                                                                    
the  other non-tax  revenue such  as fines  and forfeitures,                                                                    
Non-petroleum  rents and  royalties,  charges for  services,                                                                    
and  miscellaneous  revenues. He  noted  a  small amount  of                                                                    
investment   revenues    that   were   considered    to   be                                                                    
unrestricted. An  example was earnings on  the general fund.                                                                    
The  table  was  a  summary  of Chapter  5.  Chapter  5  was                                                                    
specific  to  non-petroleum  taxes and  other  non-petroleum                                                                    
revenue sources.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  turned to slide 47:  "Revenue Forecast: Revenue                                                                    
Available  for  Appropriation."  The department  had  a  new                                                                    
Chapter  1  in  the  current  Revenue  Sources  Book,  which                                                                    
focused  on revenue  available for  appropriation. It  was a                                                                    
process with which  the department started with  a table and                                                                    
a  couple  of paragraphs  in  the  previous year  which  was                                                                    
expanded to  be a full  chapter. The  goal was to  provide a                                                                    
better view of  the state's ability to  meet its obligations                                                                    
for  outside   analysts  or  organizations  that   were  not                                                                    
familiar with Alaska's various budget conventions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  advanced to slide  48: "Revenue  Forecast: 2016                                                                    
to  2018 Totals  to Appropriate."  He reported  that revenue                                                                    
available  for  appropriation   started  with  general  fund                                                                    
unrestricted revenue  and added  in designated  general fund                                                                    
revenue   (revenue  restricted   by   custom  or   statute),                                                                    
royalties  beyond  25  percent  to the  Permanent  Fund  (25                                                                    
percent  of all  mineral  royalties were  guaranteed to  the                                                                    
Permanent Fund  by constitution -  an additional  25 percent                                                                    
for certain leases  went to the Permanent  Fund by statute),                                                                    
settlements and earnings on  the Constitution Budget Reserve                                                                    
Fund, and realized earnings of the Permanent Fund.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  moved  quickly  to  slide  49:  "Wrap-Up:  Big                                                                    
Picture Takeaways for Forecast Period":                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   Oil Prices up by 7% and GFUR up by 5%                                                                                        
     · Current prices trending higher than forecasted price                                                                     
        for FY 2017                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   Oil Production down by 4% but potential for upside                                                                           
     · Forecast doesn't include recent announcements new                                                                        
        finds (i.e. Smith Bay, Nanushuk, Pikka)                                                                                 
     · Current production trending higher than forecasted                                                                       
        volume for FY 2017                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
  Petroleum Revenue represents ~70% of our GFUR revenues                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   The GFUR trend over forecast period:                                                                                         
     · Increase of 12% in FY 2018 or $177M                                                                                      
     · Increase of 15% in FY 2019, or $249M                                                                                     
     · Increases taper off in FY 2020 to average of 3% per                                                                      
        year until FY 2026                                                                                                      
     · Still low compared to past decade but no longer                                                                          
        decreasing as had since FY 2015                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  concluded by mentioning some  high-level trends                                                                    
he had discussed. Oil prices  were expected to grow by about                                                                    
7 percent  annually. General  fund unrestricted  revenue was                                                                    
expected to  grow by  about 5 percent  annually even  as oil                                                                    
production under  the forecast  declined by about  4 percent                                                                    
per year.  There was a  significant potential for  an upside                                                                    
with  the exciting  new developments  if they  preceded. Oil                                                                    
revenue  would represent  about  70 Percent  of the  state's                                                                    
unrestricted  revenue under  the forecast.  Also, the  state                                                                    
appeared to  have turned  the tide in  terms of  the message                                                                    
that had  to be  delivered to  the legislature.  The current                                                                    
forecast  had a  modest  increase in  the revenue  forecast,                                                                    
which  was nice,  instead of  the  continued reductions  the                                                                    
state had  experienced in the previous  several forecasts as                                                                    
prices were falling.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  turned  to slide  50:  "Wrap-Up:  Big  Picture                                                                    
Takeaways for Forecast Period (cont.)":                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   Investment Income is projected to increase 5% on average                                                                     
   over the forecast period                                                                                                     
     · Still have ~$53B in the Permanent Fund Account                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   Other Positive Revenue Trends:                                                                                               
     · Mining Taxes to recover from low of $11M in FY 2016                                                                      
        to $36M average over the forecast period                                                                                
     · NPR-A Revenue is projected to increase 40% on                                                                            
        average over the forecast period (from $4M in FY2017                                                                    
        to a high of $45M in FY2024)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel relayed  that  the  slide mentioned  investment                                                                    
income  was projected  to increase  by about  5 percent  per                                                                    
year before  any potential changes.  There were a  couple of                                                                    
other positive  trends worth  mentioning. Mining  taxes were                                                                    
expected  to  recover. It  was  a  relatively small  revenue                                                                    
source for  the state but  definitely important to  the over                                                                    
all  economy.  Mineral prices  for  the  minerals that  were                                                                    
mined in  Alaska had recovered  along with oil  prices which                                                                    
the  department saw  as a  positive sign.  Another item  was                                                                    
that  in the  Revenue Sources  Book the  NPRA revenues  were                                                                    
expected  to  increase  up  to  $45  million  per  year.  He                                                                    
elaborated that  the federal government received  all of the                                                                    
royalties  for  federal  land  in the  NPRA  and  shared  50                                                                    
percent  of  the revenue  with  the  state  to be  used  for                                                                    
certain purposes. Historically, the  revenue stream had been                                                                    
a share  of lease  bonuses, and  rents. Currently,  with the                                                                    
development  of  Moose's Tooth,  which  would  be the  first                                                                    
development in  the NPRA  on federal  land, the  state would                                                                    
start to receive a shared revenue from the royalties.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:39:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt  wanted to  address 2  specific areas.                                                                    
First, he wanted to address  the forecast for throughput. He                                                                    
had concerns about what was  being forecasted for throughput                                                                    
because  it  was  dramatically different  from  the  current                                                                    
average  for  the  fiscal year  to-date.  He  suggested  the                                                                    
average for the  previous 6 months was 507,000  and a couple                                                                    
of  days prior  it was  542,000 for  the month.  He expected                                                                    
that in April and May there  might be a dip in throughput as                                                                    
the summer  months approached. There  was about a  3 percent                                                                    
difference from  what the state currently  averaged and from                                                                    
the department's forecast  from last spring and  in the most                                                                    
recent  Fall Revenue  Sources Book.  He  wondered about  the                                                                    
large disparities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel would  defer the technical questions  to DNR. He                                                                    
explained that when DOR looked  at the forecast, it had some                                                                    
of  the  same questions.  The  department  wondered how  the                                                                    
state   was  producing   550,000  per   day  currently   and                                                                    
forecasting  490,000   for  the  year.  He   mentioned  that                                                                    
seasonality   was  a   factor.  Production   seemed  to   be                                                                    
significantly higher in the winter  and lower in the summer.                                                                    
The  department's understanding  was  that  there were  some                                                                    
turnarounds that could have been  done the previous fall but                                                                    
were potentially being pushed to  later in the spring or the                                                                    
following  summer.  Another factor  was  the  change in  the                                                                    
methodology.  He  explained  that   what  DNR  had  done  in                                                                    
producing the  forecast was to  look at what the  actual oil                                                                    
production was through  the end of FY 16.  The Department of                                                                    
Natural  Resources   used  that   information  as   well  as                                                                    
information  about the  wells being  drilled  (the plans  of                                                                    
development) to  generate the  projection for  FY 17  and FY                                                                    
18. The good news was  that production appeared to be coming                                                                    
in stronger than the experts  projected. He thought it was a                                                                    
good thing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt understood  the seasonality.  Back in                                                                    
July the  throughput was 459,000,  much lower than  what the                                                                    
department had  forecasted. He noted the  number in November                                                                    
being  549,000  and  December at  556,000.  He  thought  Mr.                                                                    
Stickel was  suggesting he  direct his  question to  DNR. He                                                                    
had a glaring concern. He  noted that in the Revenue Sources                                                                    
Book the North  Slope was separated from Cook  Inlet. Yet he                                                                    
was  uncertain they  were  separated in  the  slides of  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel responded in the  negative. The slides reflected                                                                    
total statewide credits against total statewide revenue.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:43:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  disagreed  with how  the  department                                                                    
presented the information. He argued  that the two could not                                                                    
be put  together [the  North Slope  and Cook  Inlet] because                                                                    
they were  different tax regimes.  He thought it  provided a                                                                    
false  sense  of  what  the   state  was  dealing  with.  He                                                                    
suggested  that everyone  understood that  there was  a drag                                                                    
with  Cook Inlet.  He continued  that there  would be  a net                                                                    
output  based on  the current  regime.  However, he  thought                                                                    
grouping  the North  Slope with  Cook Inlet  was not  a true                                                                    
picture. He asked why the  two regimes were put together. He                                                                    
thought  they should  be  separated. He  wanted  to have  an                                                                    
appropriate discussion  about the  two separate  regimes. He                                                                    
thought the information was clouded.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hoffbeck  responded   that  expediency  was  a                                                                    
factor. Otherwise,  the department  could have  included 100                                                                    
slides  in  the presentation.  He  was  more than  happy  to                                                                    
present the  information separately  and offered  that there                                                                    
was never  any intention  to obscure the  information. Also,                                                                    
the Cook  Inlet credit regime would  be gone in 2  years. He                                                                    
referred to  slide 38 noting  that the forecast went  out to                                                                    
2026. Following  2019 the numbers  reflected only  the North                                                                    
Slope credits.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt  understood the reason why  the growth                                                                    
slowed down substantially. Otherwise,  there would be a much                                                                    
steeper  increase if  the state  was only  paying a  minimum                                                                    
amount.  He thought  it was  appropriate going  forward that                                                                    
the two regimes were separated out to avoid confusion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton appreciate  Representative Pruitt's  input.                                                                    
He thought  there would be another  slide included. However,                                                                    
the  committee wanted  to  see the  overall  budget and  the                                                                    
overall impact on the state's budget.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hoffbeck   had  a   comment  on   the  reduced                                                                    
production  forecast. He  reported that  the department  ran                                                                    
some sensitivity numbers because  substantially more oil was                                                                    
being  produced   than  the   forecast.  The   increase  was                                                                    
approximately 50,000  barrels on  average which  amounted to                                                                    
about $100 million in additional revenue.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:47:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  asked   the  commissioner  about                                                                    
testing the in-house forecasts to  previous forecasts to see                                                                    
how  accurate the  department would  have been  had it  been                                                                    
doing the forecasting earlier.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hoffbeck   recognized  that   the  contractors                                                                    
tended to  over-forecast in the  short-term. The  new method                                                                    
was  similar to  the method  used prior  to the  most recent                                                                    
contractor.  He  elaborated  that   when  D.  A.  Platt  and                                                                    
Associates had the  contract previous to 2011,  he did pool-                                                                    
by-pool  forecasting.  The  method   was  similar,  but  the                                                                    
probabilistic  modeling was  added along  with other  things                                                                    
that were  more sophisticated. The department  was surprised                                                                    
how much it dropped.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Stickel  commented   that   in   developing  the   new                                                                    
methodology,  DNR  did a  robust  analysis  of the  previous                                                                    
forecasts and  back-tested the new methodology.  The testing                                                                    
helped  show that  the new  methodology  was reasonable  and                                                                    
provided  a good  forecast for  the state.  Although certain                                                                    
slides  were not  included in  the current  presentation, he                                                                    
was happy to do another presentation in the future.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg noted  the commissioner mentioning                                                                    
the  change from  the well-by-well  methodology to  the pool                                                                    
level  forecast. He  wondered  about any  other changes  the                                                                    
commissioner  observed with  the change  in methodology.  He                                                                    
wondered  if  he  had  seen  changes  in  production  or  in                                                                    
revenue.  He asked  if anything  else significantly  changed                                                                    
that took him by surprise.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck deferred to Mr. Stickel.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  relayed  that  DNR was  available  on  the                                                                    
phone.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  was saving some of  his questions                                                                    
for DNR.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  referred to slide  9, which showed some  of the                                                                    
significant changes on the  methodology. He highlighted that                                                                    
the state  went to  a probabilistic production  forecast. He                                                                    
explained that  rather than having  a single  point estimate                                                                    
of production, the department looked  at a range of possible                                                                    
outcomes for each pool. By  doing so, additional information                                                                    
was gleaned regarding the high side and low side.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  highlighted that  some meaningful  changes were                                                                    
made to the way risking  was incorporated into the forecast.                                                                    
In the  previous methodology, the state  received a forecast                                                                    
for each  field from  the engineer  of which  the department                                                                    
applied a uniform  risk factor to the  under development and                                                                    
under  evaluation categories.  He continued  that for  under                                                                    
evaluation,  in particular,  it  ended up  risking away  the                                                                    
vast majority  of the expected  production once  reaching 10                                                                    
years out.  The Department of Natural  Resources had changed                                                                    
that  methodology  to  more thoroughly  look  at  risks  and                                                                    
economic  parameters  of  each  individual  development.  By                                                                    
doing so, he  thought it provided for a  more robust risking                                                                    
methodology and  a higher  forecast at the  end of  a decade                                                                    
than in  the previous forecast.  He spoke to  another change                                                                    
which  was the  change to  the  cut-off window.  It did  not                                                                    
affect  the current  forecast because  everything the  state                                                                    
had  coming online  was  within a  5-year  window to  start.                                                                    
However,   going  forward,   as  the   department  evaluated                                                                    
potential new developments it could  result in a significant                                                                    
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:52:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  referred to  slide 26  [slide 27]                                                                    
and Mr.  Stickel's reference to  rounding down.  He wondered                                                                    
if  an analysis  with actuals  had  been done.  He asked  if                                                                    
anything   had  changed   considerably.  He   mentioned  the                                                                    
footmark at the bottom of the slide.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck  replied that  it would not  have made                                                                    
any significant  change. The department truncated  the cents                                                                    
off of the actual forecast.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Guttenberg  referred   to   slide  41.   In                                                                    
reference  to transportation  costs decreasing,  he wondered                                                                    
about resulting increased revenues.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel would provide the information later.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara asked  if he  was accurate  that for  every                                                                    
additional dollar in  oil price, the state  gained about $30                                                                    
million in production tax revenue.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel replied that it  depended on what year was being                                                                    
examined  as well  as  the starting  price.  He provided  an                                                                    
example. For instance, for FY 18  on page 101 of the Revenue                                                                    
Sources Book  there were  sensitivity matrices  with revenue                                                                    
at different oil  prices. At $50 per barrel  the state would                                                                    
expect $1.52  billion. At $60  billion per barrel  the state                                                                    
would  expect $1.79  billion. It  was a  difference of  $270                                                                    
million for  a $10  change, which would  be $27  million per                                                                    
dollar change - close to the $30 Vice-Chair Gara suggested.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara referred  to slide 38. He asked  if the blue                                                                    
bars represented the credits the  state purchased. He wanted                                                                    
to  make sure  they did  not reflect  the credits  companies                                                                    
were able to deduct off  their production taxes. He asked if                                                                    
he was accurate.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel responded, "Correct."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara referred  to FY 18 on slide  36. He wondered                                                                    
about the  amount the state  would have left  after allowing                                                                    
deductions  and payments  of credits.  In  FY 18,  companies                                                                    
that  had  profits  would  deduct   about  $400  million  in                                                                    
credits. He asked  Mr. Stickel to comment about  the idea of                                                                    
the state, in  FY 18, paying only the credits  accrued in FY                                                                    
18. Under  the department's  model the  state would  only be                                                                    
paying the statutory minimum.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  had the section  highlighted on page 78  of the                                                                    
Revenue Sources  Book. He  reported that  approximately $646                                                                    
million of the  $961 million in total  credits available for                                                                    
repurchase in FY 18 were  carry-forwards of excess for FY 16                                                                    
and FY 17.  The remainder was a little over  $300 million of                                                                    
new  credits   that  would  be  earned   and  available  for                                                                    
repurchase in FY 18.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara  supposed that under the  current system, if                                                                    
the state  allowed the current  law's deductions  of credits                                                                    
from  production  taxes  and paid  what  was  generated  for                                                                    
credits  for activity  in  FY  18, the  state  would have  a                                                                    
balance of -$200  million to -$250 million.  In other words,                                                                    
the state would  pay about $250 million more  that the state                                                                    
received in production taxes. He asked if he was accurate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel responded  that he  was  correct. He  furthered                                                                    
that  if the  legislature was  to appropriate  to repurchase                                                                    
all of  the credits that became  available for appropriation                                                                    
in FY 18, the state would  have a net negative for the total                                                                    
production  tax.  He  added  that  there  would  also  be  a                                                                    
positive in terms of total oil revenue.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Gara asked if it was because of royalties.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Mr. Stickel nodded affirmatively].                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Gara   referred  to   Representative   Pruitt's                                                                    
question  about just  looking at  the North  Slope generated                                                                    
credits,  which  the state  really  did  not change  in  the                                                                    
previous  year. In  FY 18  there  would be  $500 million  in                                                                    
production taxes,  companies would deduct $400  million, and                                                                    
$100  million  would  be  left.   He  asked  how  munch  was                                                                    
projected in FY 18 as payable North Slope credits.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel reported  that of  the total  credits available                                                                    
for  purchase in  FY 18  of $961  million, $537  million was                                                                    
North  Slope  and  $420  million  was  non-North  Slope.  He                                                                    
indicated  the numbers  could be  found  on page  80 of  the                                                                    
Revenue Sources Book.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:58:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara  asked  for  the  amount  for  North  Slope                                                                    
credits that  accrued for  activity in FY  18. He  wonted to                                                                    
know what the payable amount would be.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel could provide the information later.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson  was  concerned  with  the  state's                                                                    
number being  over conservative.  He was in  the legislature                                                                    
when the  state over  estimated every year.  In a  couple of                                                                    
instances,  the state  over estimated  by  20 percent  which                                                                    
promted  the legislature  to direct  the  department to  use                                                                    
more conservative numbers.  The state went from  a 5 percent                                                                    
or 6 percent  decline in production per year  to an increase                                                                    
in the  previous year.  The state  projected $38  per barrel                                                                    
and  the price  was  up closer  to $50  per  barrel. He  was                                                                    
concerned that  the numbers were too  conservative showing a                                                                    
larger deficit. He would be watching closely.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson asked if  the state was doing anything                                                                    
regarding royalty  contracts. She wondered if  the state was                                                                    
selling to any in-state producers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel responded that there  was royalty oil being sold                                                                    
to in-state refineries.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson had  questions about  the information                                                                    
on slide 19.  She suggested that as of January  12, 2017 the                                                                    
state had  557,000 barrels per  day. On the slide  it showed                                                                    
490,289 barrels per  day. She referred to  the fall forecast                                                                    
and wondered what months it included.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  replied  that for  the  particular  production                                                                    
forecast  she  was  referring to,  DNR  incorporated  actual                                                                    
information  through  June  2016  to derive  the  base  cast                                                                    
forecast and  information from the  plans of  development in                                                                    
the department's  discussions with the operators.  The state                                                                    
added the  actual information it  had at the  time including                                                                    
the first  3 to  4 months  in FY  17. At  the time  that the                                                                    
department  produced the  forecast the  remaining 9  months,                                                                    
October-December  2016 and  January-June  2017 actuals  were                                                                    
incorporated into the forecast.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  suggested that  the reason  they were                                                                    
seeing a  large difference  could be  because DNR  was using                                                                    
2016 production numbers versus 557,000  barrels per day. She                                                                    
asked if  actual numbers  would be  reflected in  the spring                                                                    
forecast.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  responded  that   the  spring  forecast  would                                                                    
incorporate  some  additional  actual information  into  re-                                                                    
running the forecast model. He  indicated that to the extent                                                                    
the  actual  information   showed  an  over-performance,  an                                                                    
increase would likely appear in the spring forecast.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  relayed that DNR  was online.  He preferred                                                                    
that  rather than  DOR explaining  DNR's forecast  model for                                                                    
production, members should hold  parts of their question for                                                                    
DNR.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:02:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked about  the $100  million figure                                                                    
per additional 50,000 barrels per day.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel  had done  some  analysis  anticipating such  a                                                                    
question.  He elaborated  that the  number the  commissioner                                                                    
cited for FY 18, holding  all else equal, with an additional                                                                    
50,000 barrels  of production the state  would receive about                                                                    
$100,000   million   in  additional   unrestricted   revenue                                                                    
(consisting of  primarily production tax royalty).  In terms                                                                    
of  total  revenue,  the  amount would  be  closer  to  $135                                                                    
million   which  would   include   the  restricted   royalty                                                                    
component to the Permanent Fund.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Grenn referred  to slide  26. He  noted that                                                                    
there  was a  bullet  that  indicated participants  provided                                                                    
their percentile  path. He asked  about the 30  experts that                                                                    
met in the fall. He wondered  if there were any non-State of                                                                    
Alaska participants.  He asked  of the list  of participants                                                                    
was available to the public.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   responded  in  the  positive.   Some  private                                                                    
economic   consultants   participated.    He   thought   the                                                                    
department could provide the list.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Grenn  referred to  slide 38 where  it showed                                                                    
the  bar  of tax  credits  in  the  following 10  years.  He                                                                    
pointed  to  where  it read,  "…assuming  statutory  minimum                                                                    
appropriations  for  FY  2018+."  He asked  about  the  work                                                                    
assumption and whether it was  used for ease of creating the                                                                    
slide or whether it was a working strategy to be used long-                                                                     
term.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel indicated  that the intent was to  set the stage                                                                    
of  the state's  potential  liability.  There was  statutory                                                                    
language concerning  a minimal  appropriation which  was the                                                                    
amount proposed by the administration  for FY 18. The actual                                                                    
appropriation amount  in any of  the years was still  up for                                                                    
debate and up to the legislature.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson referred to  page 46 where it showed                                                                    
investment revenues of $18.6 million.  He asked if the state                                                                    
was  looking  at  changing the  state's  investment  of  its                                                                    
wealth in  order to get  higher investment returns  for non-                                                                    
Permanent Fund assets.  He thought the state  was not making                                                                    
much profit  from a significant  amount of  investment money                                                                    
like it should.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hoffbeck  responded  in  the  affirmative.  He                                                                    
relayed that  the amount was  primarily being driven  by the                                                                    
returns on the  CBR. Until the state had a  fiscal plan that                                                                    
used  other forms  of  revenue besides  the  CBR, the  state                                                                    
could not  invest in anything  long-term due to  the prudent                                                                    
investor rule.  As soon as a  fiscal plan was in  place, DOR                                                                    
would have  a better idea of  what the long-term use  of the                                                                    
CBR  would  be  and  would   reinvest  it  in  a  much  more                                                                    
aggressive fashion.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  was interested  in the  returns for                                                                    
many pots  of money besides  the CBR  and the ERA.  He would                                                                    
like more information about the different funds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel replied that he  could provide information about                                                                    
how the various funds were invested.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:07:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  referred to slide 38.  He assumed that                                                                    
the blue line represented  increasing liability to the state                                                                    
due to "unpaid credit." He asked if he was correct.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel responded affirmatively.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  asked Mr.  Stickel to define  the word                                                                    
liability, without  considering possible changes  in current                                                                    
tax  credit  law. He  wondered  if  the state  was  actually                                                                    
liable for the amount of money listed on the slide.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck  relayed that there was  no obligation                                                                    
on the  part of the  state to pay  the credits in  cash. The                                                                    
credits had  been earned and the  entities had certificates.                                                                    
They had  the option of  holding the certificates  and using                                                                    
them  against future  tax liabilities,  or  they could  sell                                                                    
them  to  someone  that  had current  taxes  that  could  be                                                                    
written off. The third option  was for the state to purchase                                                                    
the credits back. However, there  was no requirement for the                                                                    
state to purchase  them back. Ultimately, at  some point the                                                                    
credits would  hit the books  as a  purchase or as  a credit                                                                    
taken against tax liability.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton indicated  that  in statute  the state  was                                                                    
liable to place  funds into an account but  did not obligate                                                                    
the state to pay  money out of the fund. He  asked if he was                                                                    
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck responded affirmatively.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  clarified that  slide 38  was based  on the                                                                    
legislature appropriating  what was deposited into  the fund                                                                    
every year and represented the growth of liability.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck answered, "That is correct."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton asked  if  the slide  included  any of  the                                                                    
other projects such  as Pikka, Smith Bay,  or other projects                                                                    
with potential huge liabilities under the current regime.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck responded in the negative.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:11:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Pruitt   mentioned  the   federal   revenue                                                                    
portion.  He noted  an increase  to  the state  of about  $1                                                                    
billion.  He  referred to  the  federal  revenue section  in                                                                    
Chapter  6   [Revenue  Sources  Book].  He   highlighted  an                                                                    
increase  which  would cost  the  state  about $15  million,                                                                    
which he  thought was a  good investment. He  also mentioned                                                                    
an increase  of more than  $100 million  in FY 18.  He asked                                                                    
about the changes and the  additional monies the state would                                                                    
receive in terms  of the additional $1  billion initially in                                                                    
FY 17.  He also  quarried about the  additional cost  to the                                                                    
state of $100 million in matching funds.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  asked if Representative Pruitt  was looking                                                                    
at the Revenue Sources Book or one of the slides.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt was  looking at  the Revenue  Sources                                                                    
Book.  However,  he  noted  that   one  of  the  slides  was                                                                    
highlighted because it was part of the state's revenues.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton wanted to pull up the slide.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck pointed to slide 44.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel referred  to  page 62  of  the Revenue  Sources                                                                    
Book.  He responded  that the  department would  investigate                                                                    
the reason for  the $100 million increase  in matching funds                                                                    
from FY  17 to FY 18.  The numbers were provided  by OMB. He                                                                    
addressed the  question about the  increase in  the forecast                                                                    
for federal  receipts between FY  16 and  FY 17 of  about $1                                                                    
billion. He reported that the  FY 16 represented the state's                                                                    
estimated federal  receipts for the fiscal  year. He pointed                                                                    
to  footnote  3  on  slide 44  noting  that  the  forecasted                                                                    
federal  revenue was  based on  the total  authorization for                                                                    
federal  receipts. Typically,  the  authorization was  given                                                                    
for the maximum  amount of federal receipts  the state could                                                                    
possibly receive. Traditionally, the  actual revenue came in                                                                    
below that amount.  He thought $3.5 billion  would likely be                                                                    
on the high side.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hoffbeck  reported  that for  Pikka  and  some                                                                    
other fields there was an  increment of credits for what DOR                                                                    
projected  for spending  for  things  such as  environmental                                                                    
studies and some  work in defining a  reservoir. However, it                                                                    
did   not  include   the  large   dollars  associated   with                                                                    
developing a field.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton clarified that $600  million to $800 million                                                                    
per year in some years was not a big dollar spend.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hoffbeck responded that it was not.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:15:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Gara referred  to slide  38 and  noted that  the                                                                    
department  listed  the credits  the  state  had to  pay  to                                                                    
companies that did  not have a profit. He  referred to slide                                                                    
36 which he thought had  a great disparity from year-to-year                                                                    
on the credits that the  state essentially paid to the large                                                                    
companies that had a profit -  the credits they were able to                                                                    
deduct from  their production taxes.  He wondered  about the                                                                    
amount the  profitable companies  were able  to deduct  - so                                                                    
different in  FY 16, FY  17, and FY  18. It looked  like the                                                                    
companies  only deducted  about $100  million in  FY 16  and                                                                    
$500 million in FY 18.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel explained  that the  blue line,  the production                                                                    
tax before any  credits, showed an anticipation  of a higher                                                                    
production  tax liability  for the  major producers  largely                                                                    
due to  an increase in prices.  As far as the  credits taken                                                                    
against  liability, one  piece  was the  taxable per  barrel                                                                    
credits. Currently,  companies had liabilities to  apply the                                                                    
credits against.  Also, there were some  exploration credits                                                                    
incorporated  that might  be worth  mentioning. Some  of the                                                                    
explorers had transferred credits  to the major producers in                                                                    
the amount  of about  $20 million in  FY 17.  The department                                                                    
was estimating  $100 million in FY  18. He noted page  80 of                                                                    
the Revenue Sources Book.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg commented  that the department had                                                                    
included potential  new fields  and opportunities  and noted                                                                    
the  issue   of  heavy  oil.   He  spoke   of  technological                                                                    
breakthroughs that  would allow the production  of heavy oil                                                                    
to increase. He asked if  the department consider the things                                                                    
he mentioned in its forecasting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel  responded that it  came up when  the department                                                                    
met  with the  major  oil companies  during  the process  of                                                                    
producing  the forecast.  The  department  asked them  about                                                                    
their different  opportunities and developments.  There were                                                                    
no significant heavy oil plans  that anyone was reviewing at                                                                    
the  current   price  level.  He   suggested  that   as  the                                                                    
department  proceeded  through  future  forecasts  it  would                                                                    
continue to monitor the issue.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg wondered  if  the department  had                                                                    
information regarding  the amount  the major  producers were                                                                    
spending on heavy oil research.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Stickel   did  not   think  the   number  was   at  the                                                                    
department's fingertips but he would look into it.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  queried that if the  producers had expenses                                                                    
on the  North Slope associated  with a find  or development,                                                                    
their expenses  would be  available for  tax credits  at the                                                                    
rate of 35 percent of their expenditures.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Stickel responded that as long  as a prospect was on the                                                                    
lease, it  would be deductible.  For instance, if  a company                                                                    
drilled an  exploration well into  a heavy oil  prospect, it                                                                    
would be treated the same way  as an exploration well into a                                                                    
light oil prospect.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Seaton  thanked the presenters  from DOR  for their                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:19:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton asked  Mr. Decker  to  explain the  revised                                                                    
methodology.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL DECKER,   DIVISION  OF  OIL   AND  GAS,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
NATURAL   RESOURCES,  reported   that  the   restriction  of                                                                    
projects  with  expected  start-up  dates  within  a  5-year                                                                    
window made  a dramatic difference in  the forecast relative                                                                    
to former forecasts. He continued  that the former forecasts                                                                    
that incorporated much longer  lead projects and speculative                                                                    
projects tended  to over predict especially  in the outyears                                                                    
of the  forecast. Some of  the work the division  did showed                                                                    
that  the error  in previous  forecasts increased  with each                                                                    
year forward the forecast was  looking. He thought forecasts                                                                    
might be good  in the near years. However,  by including the                                                                    
more  speculative projects,  they  tended  to over  forecast                                                                    
further out into  the future. The division  had concluded it                                                                    
was the  fundamental challenge that needed  to be addressed.                                                                    
Some   of  the   changes   adopted  included   incorporating                                                                    
probabilistic statistics  - understanding  that there  was a                                                                    
P50,  P10,  P90  range  of certainty  associated  with  many                                                                    
aspects  of the  forecast. The  division tried  its best  to                                                                    
define  distributions  and  to  quantify  uncertainties.  He                                                                    
asked if there were specific questions about the forecast.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  commented  that the  department  had                                                                    
been accurate in  the forecasting in the spring  in terms of                                                                    
the average. He understood  the discussion about the future.                                                                    
However, he wondered how the  state could have confidence in                                                                    
the future, because there was  an estimate of 3 percent less                                                                    
than what  the state  saw for  the average  for the  first 6                                                                    
months. He could see how there  would be a dip in the warmer                                                                    
weather month.  However, he did  not see the  state dropping                                                                    
down to  as low as  DNR forecasted, which was  done recently                                                                    
in  the  previous December.  He  wondered  how the  forecast                                                                    
shifted so drastically from the spring forecast.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Decker  replied that  the  previous  forecast had  been                                                                    
crafted  by  DOR  and  its  consultant.  The  Department  of                                                                    
Natural  Resources did  not consider  the previous  spring's                                                                    
forecast  in  the  process  of  preparing  the  department's                                                                    
forecast. There  had been a  methodology change  between the                                                                    
two forecasts. One of the  large changes had been changes in                                                                    
behavior  of the  operators. They  had amended  their plans,                                                                    
laid down rigs,  and deferred drilling in  entire units that                                                                    
formerly  were  expected  to be  developing  throughout  the                                                                    
upcoming year. He agreed that  seasonality played a big part                                                                    
in  the  forecast   for  the  fall.  He   relayed  that  the                                                                    
department's methodology  tended to produce a  straight line                                                                    
through the  year of  relatively uniform  decline throughout                                                                    
the months of  any given year. He noted  that the department                                                                    
was looking  at the  chance to reconcile  monthly production                                                                    
as  the state  was climbing  out  of low  production in  the                                                                    
summer  into  peak  production   in  the  cold  months.  The                                                                    
forecast was  more of a  baseline decline through  the year.                                                                    
The  department thought  its  prediction  would average  out                                                                    
because in  the summer there was  less efficient compression                                                                    
for  injection purposes,  and  turnaround  events and  field                                                                    
maintenance  occurred.   He  noted  that  the   deferral  of                                                                    
development drilling  activity in several fields  was also a                                                                    
contributing factor to  the department's prediction leveling                                                                    
out  by  the  end  of  the fiscal  year.  He  reported  that                                                                    
turnarounds done  in previous  years were  major maintenance                                                                    
events and that  the state was reaping the  benefits of some                                                                    
of  those  efficiencies  and improvements.  He  thought  the                                                                    
state was  still seeing an  increase in production  from the                                                                    
former  turnarounds. He  reported  there was  a  lag in  the                                                                    
effect of industry  operations or the lack  of operations or                                                                    
the deferral  of things.  He thought the  state would  see a                                                                    
further slow-down throughout the rest of the year.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:27:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz asked  about the  net effect  of going                                                                    
from a  well-to-well forecast to  a pool forecast.  He asked                                                                    
Mr. Decker to  define "pool." He wondered if  the net impact                                                                    
was causing a general decrease in production.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Decker  explained   that   pool   was  an   individual                                                                    
accumulation  of oil  or  gas. He  elaborated  that a  field                                                                    
might  contain  multiple  pools.  An example  would  be  the                                                                    
Prudhoe Bay  Unit. A  unit or  a field  was a  collection of                                                                    
multiple individual  reservoirs. At  Prudhoe Bay  there were                                                                    
more  than a  dozen pools  in the  field. He  furthered that                                                                    
pool-by-pool  meant  the  production data  reported  by  the                                                                    
operators   to  the   Alaska   Oil   and  Gas   Conservation                                                                    
Commission. The  department took the  data, grouped it  by a                                                                    
geological  reservoir in  any given  field, and  applied its                                                                    
decline curve analysis to look at the rate of decline.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr., Decker  continued that the department  also developed a                                                                    
method to  understand the  possible high-end  projection and                                                                    
low-end projection  of decline rather than  a single decline                                                                    
percentage   estimate.   He   emphasized  that   the   major                                                                    
difference between  what DNR did and  what previous entities                                                                    
had done  in terms of  forecasting had  to do with  what was                                                                    
viewed as appropriate to be  in the forecast. The Department                                                                    
of  Natural  Resources  was careful  not  to  count  certain                                                                    
activity twice.  Mr. Stickel had mentioned  in his testimony                                                                    
that  the  decline  curve analysis  incorporated  a  certain                                                                    
element  of  background  development  activity  inherent  in                                                                    
running an oil field. The  department wanted to be sure that                                                                    
if a company indicated it would  drill 7 wells in a field, a                                                                    
look back  at the previous  3 years of  development activity                                                                    
had  to be  completed.  The look-back  would  show how  many                                                                    
wells  would they  have  been drilling  on  an average  year                                                                    
because  that number  was already  included  in the  decline                                                                    
curve  projection. The  under  development  category of  the                                                                    
forecast was small because there  were not many new wells in                                                                    
existing fields coming on in the forecast period.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Seaton  thanked  the testifier.  He  reviewed  the                                                                    
agenda for the following meeting.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:30:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:31 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Fall 2016 Revenue Forecast Presentation - House Finance 1.18.17.pdf HFIN 1/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
DOR Fall 2016 Forecast
DOR Response Letter to House Finance Committee - 2.7.17.pdf HFIN 1/18/2017 1:30:00 PM
DOR Response Fall Revenue Forecast HFIN