Legislature(2015 - 2016)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/15/2016 08:30 AM FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Recessed to a Call of the Chair --
+ SB 101 STATE PARKS FEES & SALES OF MERCHANDISE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 101(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 339 MOTOR VEHICLE ARSON TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 339 Out of Committee
+ SB 69 BD OF CHIROPRACTIC EXAMINERS; PRACTICE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 69(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      April 15, 2016                                                                                            
                         8:39 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:39:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson   called  the  House   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 8:39 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mark Neuman, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Steve Thompson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Dan Saddler, Vice-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Lynn Gattis                                                                                                      
Representative Cathy Munoz                                                                                                      
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ed  Fogels,  Deputy   Commissioner,  Department  of  Natural                                                                    
Resources;  Ben  Ellis,  Director,  Division  of  Parks  and                                                                    
Outdoor   Recreation,  Department   of  Natural   Resources;                                                                    
Representative  Gabrielle LeDoux,  Sponsor; Kaci  Schroeder,                                                                    
Assistant  Attorney General,  Criminal Division,  Department                                                                    
of  Law; Brandon  Brefcynski, Staff,  Senator Bill  Stoltze;                                                                    
Dr.  Edward  Barrington,  Board of  Chiropractic  Examiners,                                                                    
Juneau; Janey Hovenden,  Director, Division of Corporations,                                                                    
Business   and   Professional   Licensing,   Department   of                                                                    
Commerce, Community and Economic Development.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ted Wellman, President, Kenai  River Special Management Area                                                                    
Advisory Board, Sterling.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 339    MOTOR VEHICLE ARSON                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
          HB 339  was REPORTED out  of committee with  a "do                                                                    
          pass"  recommendation  and   with  two  previously                                                                    
          published  zero fiscal  notes: FN1  (ADM) and  FN2                                                                    
          (LAW).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 69(FIN)                                                                                                                    
          BD OF CHIROPRACTIC EXAMINERS; PRACTICE                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          CSSB 69(FIN) was REPORTED out  of committee with a                                                                    
          "do pass"  recommendation and with  one previously                                                                    
          published fiscal note: FN2 (CED).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 101(FIN)                                                                                                                   
          STATE PARKS FEES & SALES OF MERCHANDISE                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          CSSB 101(FIN)  was REPORTED out of  committee with                                                                    
          a  "do  pass"  recommendation  and  with  and  one                                                                    
          previously published zero fiscal note: FN3 (DNR).                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson discussed the meeting agenda.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 101(FIN)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to merchandise sold and certain fees                                                                      
     charged or collected by the Department of Natural                                                                          
     Resources."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:40:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ED  FOGELS,  DEPUTY   COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF  NATURAL                                                                    
RESOURCES, relayed that the bill  was extremely important to                                                                    
the  department and  the state.  Alaska's state  park system                                                                    
was the  largest in the nation;  it had evolved into  a lean                                                                    
and efficient  machine. The Department of  Natural Resources                                                                    
(DNR) was trying hard to  reduce the amount of General Funds                                                                    
required to run state parks  and believed they had developed                                                                    
a strategy  to completely get  the state park system  off of                                                                    
general funds in the near  future. He detailed that the bill                                                                    
represented a key piece of the department's strategy.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BEN  ELLIS,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  PARKS   AND  OUTDOOR                                                                    
RECREATION, DEPARTMENT OF  NATURAL RESOURCES, discussed that                                                                    
the  bill would  enable the  Division of  Parks and  Outdoor                                                                    
Recreation  to  sell  state park  themed  merchandise  in  a                                                                    
manner  that ensured  a reasonable  monetary  return to  the                                                                    
state  to help  support state  park operations,  which would                                                                    
thereby  potentially  reduce   the  division's  reliance  on                                                                    
General Funds.  He communicated that the  bill contained two                                                                    
parts.  First,  the  current   statute  specified  that  the                                                                    
department could collect fees in  a "park unit." He detailed                                                                    
that at  present, DNR collected  fees online for  public use                                                                    
cabin reservations,  annual parking  and boat  launch passes                                                                    
at public  information centers; there were  also other areas                                                                    
where funds were received that were  not in a park unit. The                                                                    
bill would remove the park  unit language. He specified that                                                                    
the  Department of  Law (DOL)  had looked  at the  issue. He                                                                    
elaborated that the  department was not in  danger of losing                                                                    
the funds  collected outside  of a park  unit, but  the idea                                                                    
was to clarify the language.  He characterized the change as                                                                    
a housekeeping  measure. The second and  more important part                                                                    
of the  bill gave DNR another  tool in its effort  to reduce                                                                    
dependency   on  Undesignated   General  Funds   (UGF)  that                                                                    
supported the division.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ellis explained  that in  FY 15  the division  had been                                                                    
allocated $3.5 million  in UGF and the  division had brought                                                                    
in  $3.3   million  in  program  receipts.   The  division's                                                                    
operational  budget  was  a  little  over  $7  million.  The                                                                    
department had  taken the steps  through the  legislation to                                                                    
try to  close the  gap. He explained  that the  division had                                                                    
increased its program receipts;  previously about 31 percent                                                                    
of its operating expenses came  from permits. The number had                                                                    
increased  to 40  percent with  a target  in the  50 percent                                                                    
range  by  the beginning  of  next  year. The  division  had                                                                    
looked at  park units where  the state had not  charged fees                                                                    
and  had  taken  steps  to change  that.  For  example,  the                                                                    
division  had installed  collection stations  with restrooms                                                                    
on  Kodiak; it  had  anticipated bringing  in  $20,000 as  a                                                                    
result, but  it had already  reached that amount  before the                                                                    
summer season had begun. He  elaborated that Kodiak had been                                                                    
very supportive  of the fee  increase to support  the parks,                                                                    
which comported  with the  overall statewide  sentiment. The                                                                    
division  had also  reduced its  spending by  18 percent  in                                                                    
order  to operate  without UGF.  The bill  would enable  the                                                                    
division  to maintain  park services,  reduce dependency  on                                                                    
UGF, and  provide a  way to support  the largest  state park                                                                    
system in the nation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:45:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ellis  relayed that  the idea had  come about  4.5 years                                                                    
earlier when there  had been a photo contest as  part of the                                                                    
40th anniversary  of Alaska's state parks.  He detailed that                                                                    
the idea  had come  to create blank  notecards with  some of                                                                    
the photos  and park information  to sell for a  profit. The                                                                    
division had been told it could  only sell the item at cost.                                                                    
He  showed  the committee  a  park  hat  that was  given  to                                                                    
advisory board  members, but could  not be  sold. Currently,                                                                    
the only source for park  merchandise was an online retailer                                                                    
based in Seattle.  For example, if a person  wanted an Eagle                                                                    
Beach Alaska State Park sweatshirt  they could buy it online                                                                    
for $40;  the state and  the division received  zero percent                                                                    
of the profits. The bill  would enable people purchasing the                                                                    
merchandise to  support their state  parks and to  know that                                                                    
the  profit  was  going  back into  their  state  parks.  He                                                                    
relayed  that at  least  six other  states  had mature  park                                                                    
merchandise programs  that generated  $1 million or  more in                                                                    
profits for their park systems.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:47:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  asked if  the division  had the  ability to                                                                    
work with  commissions. He stated that  the Mat-Su visitor's                                                                    
center  and others  worked on  commission sales  where items                                                                    
could be sold.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ellis answered in the  affirmative. He detailed that the                                                                    
bill  was broad  and specified  that it  was the  division's                                                                    
responsibility to  seek a  desirable and  appropriate return                                                                    
on  investment,  which  could  occur  through  a  number  of                                                                    
venues. The program would have  a strong wholesale component                                                                    
where a product would be  sold to retail stores. The concept                                                                    
had been  put forward  by Princess, specifically  related to                                                                    
its lodge  at the Denali  National Park near the  new Kesugi                                                                    
campground.  The division  would  love to  have products  to                                                                    
sell at the  lodge, which would make a small  profit for the                                                                    
state and the retailers.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman looked  forward to the bill  becoming law so                                                                    
he could purchase a hat.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis asked if  there was a preference given                                                                    
to Alaska  businesses when retail items  were purchased. She                                                                    
realized the  state was going  to try  to make a  profit and                                                                    
that the money went back  in [to DNR's budget]. She referred                                                                    
to Mr.  Ellis's testimony that currently  the products could                                                                    
only be purchased out of  state. She believed there could be                                                                    
a win-win situation [for the state and its businesses].                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ellis answered  that the bill did address  the issue; it                                                                    
included  language that  to the  extent practicable  several                                                                    
things would  occur. First,  the products  would be  made in                                                                    
the  United States.  He noted  that currently  products were                                                                    
primarily  made outside  of the  U.S. Second,  there was  an                                                                    
Alaska bidder  preference and the  ability to look  into the                                                                    
state's correctional facilities to  determine if they had an                                                                    
opportunity to create a product.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:50:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ellis continued  to provide an explanation  of the bill.                                                                    
He  explained  that  there were  states  making  between  $1                                                                    
million  and $4  million in  annual profit  on the  sales of                                                                    
merchandise (the  programs had  been in operation  between 8                                                                    
and 10  years in those  states). However, he  clarified that                                                                    
if implemented, the program would  not bring in that kind of                                                                    
revenue  immediately; it  would  be necessary  to take  very                                                                    
small steps  to slowly grow  the program. He  explained that                                                                    
the bill had a zero fiscal  note and the division would have                                                                    
to find  the ability  within its current  means to  make the                                                                    
program  work. He  communicated  that states  with the  most                                                                    
successful programs had  product at all of  their state park                                                                    
areas. The program in Alaska  would probably focus initially                                                                    
on some  of the  state's most heavily  used areas  that were                                                                    
closest to  the largest  population centers.  The department                                                                    
intended to grow  the program over a 5 to  8-year period. He                                                                    
relayed that the New Hampshire  program had earned in the $1                                                                    
million  per  year  range. He  cited  the  program's  deputy                                                                    
director  as  saying "We  are  fairly  passionate about  our                                                                    
retail operations  here in New  Hampshire state  parks. When                                                                    
you change the dialogue from  cost control to revenue growth                                                                    
opportunities  all of  a sudden  new  doors open,  employees                                                                    
attitudes shift,  and we  build a  broader customer  base of                                                                    
support, loyalty, and advocacy for our state parks system."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz  asked if the division  would work with                                                                    
a wholesale  distributor or  if the state  would act  as the                                                                    
wholesaler.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ellis answered  that the division had not  yet looked at                                                                    
those details,  but it would  in the future.  The department                                                                    
would  also look  at turning  artwork  generated by  artisan                                                                    
residents  in  the  Rie  Munoz-Dorothy  Gruening  Artist-in-                                                                    
Residence Program into prints for resale.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz encouraged the  division to work with a                                                                    
wholesaler with  a network of  businesses instead  of taking                                                                    
the work  on itself.  She believed the  work would  be quite                                                                    
cumbersome for the state to take on itself.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ellis agreed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz  suggested   working  with  a  graphic                                                                    
designer  on  creating a  product  line.  She believed  that                                                                    
investing a  little on  the front  end would  create greater                                                                    
success.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Ellis emphatically  agreed.  He  acknowledged that  the                                                                    
division  did  not  contain graphic  artist  or  merchandise                                                                    
sales experts;  it would  be looking  to the  private sector                                                                    
for the expertise  in order to develop a  product that would                                                                    
sell and that the state could be proud of.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:53:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  stated that a significant  number of people                                                                    
enjoyed  state parks  for photography.  He  noted that  many                                                                    
professional photographers  had copyrights of  their photos.                                                                    
He wanted to ensure that there  was nothing in the bill that                                                                    
would  infringe  upon  the  right  of  individuals  to  take                                                                    
professional photos.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Ellis  replied   that  the   bill  would   not  impact                                                                    
photographers. He  relayed that  in the  photography contest                                                                    
held by  the division  six years earlier,  the photographers                                                                    
had agreed to provide the  division with copyright for their                                                                    
particular submission.  However, the bill would  not impinge                                                                    
upon  the  ability  of professional  photographers  to  take                                                                    
pictures.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
TED WELLMAN, PRESIDENT, KENAI  RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA                                                                    
ADVISORY BOARD, STERLING  (via teleconference), testified in                                                                    
support  of   the  legislation.   The  advisory   board  was                                                                    
concerned  about ensuring  adequate monies  and funding  for                                                                    
parks  in   order  to   have  appropriate   enforcement  and                                                                    
maintenance of  facilities. He shared  that the  Kenai River                                                                    
was under "virtual assault" by  increased use throughout the                                                                    
system.  The board  was  in favor  of  any legislation  that                                                                    
raised  funds  to  allow  state  parks  to  more  adequately                                                                    
perform  their   job.  The  board  believed   the  bill  and                                                                    
merchandizing  was a  nice and  neat idea  that would  allow                                                                    
people  visiting the  park  to identify  with  the park.  He                                                                    
believed  the products  would be  very  popular. He  relayed                                                                    
that the  advisory board had  submitted a letter  of support                                                                    
in the past.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman addressed the zero  fiscal note from DNR for                                                                    
FY 17  through FY 22. He  noted that the department  had the                                                                    
authority  to collect  fees at  locations  outside the  park                                                                    
unit  and the  bill  would enable  the  division to  collect                                                                    
program receipts  to allow for  a profit to be  made outside                                                                    
the sale of merchandise.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  MOVED  to  REPORT  CSSB  101(FIN)  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  note. There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSSB  101(FIN) was  REPORTED  out of  committee  with a  "do                                                                    
pass" recommendation  and with and one  previously published                                                                    
zero fiscal note: FN3 (DNR).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:57:38 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:59:45 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 339                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to arson in the third degree."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:59:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GABRIELLE   LEDOUX,  SPONSOR,   thanked  the                                                                    
committee for hearing  her bill. The bill  aimed to increase                                                                    
public safety  by expanding the circumstances  where the act                                                                    
of  arson may  be classified  as arson.  She explained  that                                                                    
current  law provided  that damaging  a vehicle  by fire  or                                                                    
explosion may only  be charged as arson in  the third degree                                                                    
if the  crime was committed  on state or municipal  land. An                                                                    
identical action on private land  would be criminal mischief                                                                    
in the  third degree.  She explained  that both  crimes were                                                                    
Class C felonies. She elaborated  that the narrowness of the                                                                    
arson  statute   hindered  fire  and   arson  investigators'                                                                    
ability  to  track  repeat  offenders.  She  continued  that                                                                    
serial arsonists were often prime  suspects when a new arson                                                                    
crime was committed,  but were difficult to  track when they                                                                    
had  only been  previously convicted  of criminal  mischief.                                                                    
The bill  would aid investigators  in solving the  crimes by                                                                    
creating a  clear criminal history. She  urged the committee                                                                    
to support the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeDoux  relayed that  the bill  was supported                                                                    
by the  Alaska Fire  Chief's Association.  Additionally, the                                                                    
bill  had been  one of  late Representative  Max Gruenberg's                                                                    
priorities.   She   explained  that   after   Representative                                                                    
Gruenberg  had passed  away, the  House Judiciary  Committee                                                                    
decided to sponsor the legislation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Thompson  discussed   individuals  available   to                                                                    
testify.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:02:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson asked  to hear from the  Department of Law                                                                    
(DOL).  He wondered  if  there were  any  problems with  the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KACI   SCHROEDER,  ASSISTANT   ATTORNEY  GENERAL,   CRIMINAL                                                                    
DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF  LAW, replied that DOL  saw no legal                                                                    
issues with the legislation as currently drafted.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  believed  during   his  time  as  a  House                                                                    
Representative,   Senator  Bill   Stoltze   had  worked   on                                                                    
legislation specifying  that a crime would  be classified as                                                                    
arson  if it  was committed  on  public lands.  He asked  if                                                                    
there had ever  been an arrest of someone  burning a vehicle                                                                    
(even on public land).                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Schroeder  noted that  it was  a statute  the department                                                                    
was familiar  with, but she did  not know if there  had been                                                                    
any arrests for the crime.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  stated  that   the  issue  had  been                                                                    
brought  forward  by  firefighters   in  her  district.  She                                                                    
clarified  that there  was currently  a different  charge on                                                                    
public lands versus private lands.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Schroeder answered  in the affirmative; if  the bill did                                                                    
not go through  the department would continue  to charge the                                                                    
crime on  private lands  as criminal  mischief in  the third                                                                    
degree (a Class C felony).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked for verification that  the bill                                                                    
created  even ground  and allowed  fire fighters  and public                                                                    
safety to  track offenders who  committed the crime  on both                                                                    
public and private property.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Schroeder replied  in the  affirmative. The  department                                                                    
would have  the ability  to charge the  crime as  arson. The                                                                    
crime  would be  tracked as  arson, which  was an  immediate                                                                    
notification to the public and  law enforcement that burning                                                                    
was involved.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  asked if there  was current law to  force a                                                                    
person  who committed  the  crime to  pay  for removing  the                                                                    
vehicle.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Schroeder answered that the  direction would be included                                                                    
in part of the damages  and restitution the department often                                                                    
sought in resolving the cases.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson  noted that Vice-Chair Saddler  had joined                                                                    
the meeting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OPENED and CLOSED public testimony.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman addressed the two  zero fiscal notes for the                                                                    
Department of  Law and Department  of Administration  for FY                                                                    
17  to  FY  22.  He  noted  that  the  departments  did  not                                                                    
currently anticipate a fiscal impact from the legislation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman MOVED  to REPORT  HB 339  out of  committee                                                                    
with individual recommendations  and the accompanying fiscal                                                                    
notes. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HB  339 was  REPORTED  out  of committee  with  a "do  pass"                                                                    
recommendation  and  with   two  previously  published  zero                                                                    
fiscal notes: FN1 (ADM) and FN2 (LAW).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:07:45 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:09:16 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 69(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the Board of Chiropractic                                                                              
     Examiners and the practice of chiropractic."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:09:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON BREFCYNSKI,  STAFF, SENATOR BILL  STOLTZE, explained                                                                    
that  the bill  had been  brought  forward by  the Board  of                                                                    
Chiropractic Examiners and  the Alaska Chiropractic Society.                                                                    
State  chiropractic laws  had not  been updated  since 1988;                                                                    
the  bill   was  intended  to  clarify   and  modernize  the                                                                    
associated  statutes. The  bill addressed  the training  and                                                                    
utilization  of chiropractic  clinical assistants,  interns,                                                                    
and preceptors. Additionally, the  bill would strengthen and                                                                    
clarify  law   allowing  chiropractors  to   perform  school                                                                    
physicals. The  legislation would also revise  penalties for                                                                    
fraudulent  practices, updated  definitions, and  modernized                                                                    
terminology.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  referred to  the explanation  of bill                                                                    
changes,  which   she  believed  contained  an   error.  She                                                                    
referred  to  the  explanation   that  the  bill  reinstated                                                                    
provisions  requiring  chiropractors   to  perform  physical                                                                    
examinations   (Section   2,   page  2).   She   asked   for                                                                    
verification  that the  bill  would  allow chiropractors  to                                                                    
perform examinations, but not require it.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brefcynski replied in the  affirmative. He noted that it                                                                    
may have been a drafting error.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler asked  who would be covered  by the bill.                                                                    
Mr.  Brefcynski deferred  the question  to a  representative                                                                    
from the Board of Chiropractic Examiners.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:11:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  EDWARD  BARRINGTON,  BOARD OF  CHIROPRACTIC  EXAMINERS,                                                                    
JUNEAU,   provided   information  about   his   professional                                                                    
background.  He  relayed  that  the  Board  of  Chiropractic                                                                    
Examiners and the Chiropractic Society supported the bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  asked how many  people were  employed in                                                                    
chiropractic clinical assistants, interns, and preceptors.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Barrington  answered  that   there  were  currently  no                                                                    
statistics   available  because   the  positions   were  not                                                                    
regulated. Typically a person  was trained in a chiropractic                                                                    
office.  There were  programs in  chiropractic colleges  and                                                                    
there  was a  national  board  examination for  chiropractic                                                                    
clinical assistants.  An intern  was a  chiropractic student                                                                    
who had passed all of  their graduation requirements and may                                                                    
have graduated, but  was waiting for a  board examination in                                                                    
a  particular  state  and  who may  want  to  gain  clinical                                                                    
experience. The preceptor  supervised the intern. Currently,                                                                    
there were  chiropractic colleges  wanting to  place interns                                                                    
in  Alaska, but  they required  enabling language  in Alaska                                                                    
law.  He   explained  that  clinical  assistants   would  be                                                                    
regulated  much like  medical assistants.  There was  public                                                                    
interest  in the  endeavor and  there  had been  third-party                                                                    
inquiries from insurance  companies about the qualifications                                                                    
of people working with their insureds directly.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Munoz   asked    if   chiropractors    had                                                                    
prescriptive  authority in  Alaska. Mr.  Barrington answered                                                                    
that chiropractors did not  have prescriptive authority over                                                                    
pharmaceutical substances;  they did have  prescription over                                                                    
exercise and nutrition.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson  noted  other individuals  available  for                                                                    
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OPENED and CLOSED public testimony.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  addressed  the  fiscal  note  from  the                                                                    
Department of Commerce,  Community and Economic Development.                                                                    
The  note  reflected a  cost  of  $2,500  in  FY 17  and  no                                                                    
position changes.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:16:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis   remarked  that  she   had  received                                                                    
comments  from chiropractors  in  her district  who saw  the                                                                    
legislation as  a helpful cleanup  bill. She hoped  the bill                                                                    
was reported out.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson   agreed  that  the  bill   was  to  help                                                                    
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked about the fiscal  note. She did                                                                    
not recall that  there was typically a charge  to the boards                                                                    
for rewriting  regulation and for printing  and postage. She                                                                    
asked if the practice was normal.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JANEY   HOVENDEN,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF   CORPORATIONS,                                                                    
BUSINESS   AND   PROFESSIONAL   LICENSING,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
COMMERCE, COMMUNITY  AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,  replied that                                                                    
typically all  expenses for a  profession were  charged back                                                                    
to licensees.  The $2,500 fiscal  note would be paid  for by                                                                    
licensees of the chiropractic program.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  asked  for verification  that  every                                                                    
time the department made changes  to any of the boards (even                                                                    
if the  change did not come  at the board's request)  it was                                                                    
charged to the board.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hovenden replied in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  MOVED to  REPORT  CSSB  69(FIN) out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 69(FIN) was REPORTED out  of committee with a "do pass"                                                                    
recommendation  and  with  one previously  published  fiscal                                                                    
note: FN2 (CED).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:19:11 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:20:26 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson  addressed the schedule for  the afternoon                                                                    
meeting.  He recessed  the meeting  to a  call of  the chair                                                                    
[note: the meeting never reconvened].                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:21:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:21 a.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CS SB 101 Summary of Changes.pdf HFIN 4/15/2016 8:30:00 AM
SB 101
CS SB 101 Transmittal Letter.pdf HFIN 4/15/2016 8:30:00 AM
SB 101
SB69 Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 4/15/2016 8:30:00 AM
SB 69
SB69 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/15/2016 8:30:00 AM
SB 69
SB69 Summary of Changes ver A to ver S.pdf HFIN 4/15/2016 8:30:00 AM
SB 69
SB69 Supporting Documents.pdf HFIN 4/15/2016 8:30:00 AM
SB 69
HB 339 - Letter of Support - Alaska Association of Fire & Arson Investigators.pdf HFIN 4/15/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 339
HB 339 - Letter of Support - Alaska Fire Chiefs Association.pdf HFIN 4/15/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 339
HB 339 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/15/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 339