Legislature(2009 - 2010)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/12/2010 09:00 AM FINANCE


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+ HB 73 LICENSE PLATES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 73(FIN) Out of Committee
*+ HB 339 AK HOUSING FIN CORP DIVIDEND TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+ HJR 45 OPPOSE FEDERAL CAP AND TRADE LEGISLATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 45(FIN) Out of Committee
<Bill Held Over from 3/11/10>
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      March 12, 2010                                                                                            
                         9:09 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:09:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 9:09 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Hawker, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Bill Thomas Jr., Vice-Chair                                                                                      
Representative Allan Austerman                                                                                                  
Representative Mike Doogan                                                                                                      
Representative Anna Fairclough                                                                                                  
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Woodie Salmon                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
John  Coan,   Staff,  Representative  Bill   Stoltze;  Bryan                                                                    
Butcher, Director, Government  Affairs and Public Relations,                                                                    
Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation, Department  Of Revenue;                                                                    
Representative  Bob  Lynn,   Sponsor;  Nancy  Manly,  Staff,                                                                    
Representative Bob Lynn;  Jerry Luckhaupt, Legislative Legal                                                                    
Staff,   Division   of    Legal   Services   and   Volunteer                                                                    
Firefighter.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Rick   Williams,  Petersburg;   Dan  Fauske,   CEO/Executive                                                                    
Director, Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation, Department of                                                                    
Revenue;  Sean Wisner,  Career  Firefighter, Alyeska  Marine                                                                    
Terminal and Volunteer  Firefighter, Valdez Fire Department;                                                                    
Susie  Koklich,  Alaska  Director, National  Volunteer  Fire                                                                    
Council, Valdez; David Miller,  Fire Chief, City and Borough                                                                    
of   Sitka   and   President,  Alaska   State   Firefighters                                                                    
Association; Dave Tyler, State Fire Marshall.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HJR 45    OPPOSE FEDERAL CAP AND TRADE LEGISLATION                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          CSHJR 45(FIN) was REPORTED out of Committee with                                                                      
          a "do pass" recommendation and with attached new                                                                      
          zero note by the Legislative Affairs Agency.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HB 73     LICENSE PLATES                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          CSHB 73(FIN) was REPORTED out of Committee with a                                                                     
          "do pass" recommendation and with attached new                                                                        
          zero note by the Department of Administration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 339    AK HOUSING FIN CORP DIVIDEND                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 339 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 45                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Urging the United States Congress not to enact Cap and                                                                     
     Trade legislation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:10:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  COAN,  STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE BILL  STOLTZE,  SPONSOR,                                                                    
explained  that  the  resolution  was  intended  to  send  a                                                                    
message to  Congress and to  the President on an  issue that                                                                    
would  deeply affect  Alaska and  all Alaskans.  He stressed                                                                    
that  the Cap  and Trade  legislation in  Congress would  be                                                                    
detrimental across all industries.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coan  reported that Representative Stoltze's  office had                                                                    
worked  closely with  the governor's  office and  members of                                                                    
the  Alaska  delegation  to   craft  the  resolution  urging                                                                    
Congress  not  to  enact  the   measure.  He  described  the                                                                    
resolution  as  a  straightforward  expression  of  concerns                                                                    
regarding  cap  and  trade legislation  and  its  impact  on                                                                    
average working families and economic growth in the state.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RICK WILLIAMS,  PETERSBURG (via teleconference), spoke  as a                                                                    
commercial fisherman in support of the resolution:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Thank   you    for   recognizing    the   geographical,                                                                    
     disproportionate  impacts of  mandatory greenhouse  gas                                                                    
     reductions  on  the  state   of  Alaska.  In  Southeast                                                                    
     Alaska,  the  cap  and  trade  bill  will  cripple  our                                                                    
     tourism,   fishing   industry    and   barge   service.                                                                    
     Everything we buy  and do will cost  more. The cost-of-                                                                    
     living increases will force many  families to leave. We                                                                    
     ordinary people are  learning the goal of  this cap and                                                                    
     trade  bill is  to  make carbon  dioxide  a number  one                                                                    
     commodity on the planet. Quoting  the February issue of                                                                    
     Harper's  Magazine:  "Unlike  traditional  commodities,                                                                    
     which  sometime  during  the  course  of  their  market                                                                    
     exchange  must  be  delivered to  someone  in  physical                                                                    
     form, the carbon market is  based on the delivery of an                                                                    
     invisible  substance  to  no  one.  Its  value  resides                                                                    
     entirely in the promise of its absence."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Big banks and big  multinationals love the trillions of                                                                    
     dollars tied to this bill.  They can work both ends and                                                                    
     it is  ripe for  abuse. China and  India love  it; they                                                                    
     have made it  absolutely clear that they  are not going                                                                    
     to perpetuate  their poverty by  initiating unrealistic                                                                    
     regulations, and will inherit  our wealth. This cap and                                                                    
     trade bill has  nothing to do with  the environment and                                                                    
     everything  to do  with power  and greed.  Furthermore,                                                                    
     there  is no  scientific consensus  on climate  change.                                                                    
     There is,  however, a petition  to the  U.S. government                                                                    
     signed by  31,478 American scientists,  including 9,029                                                                    
     with PhDs,  urging our government  to reject  the Kyoto                                                                    
     Protocol  and any  similar proposals.  Additionally, it                                                                    
     may be good to send a  copy of HJR 45 to Senators Boxer                                                                    
     and Inhofe,  the ranking members  of the  [U.S.] Senate                                                                    
     Committee on Environment and Public Works.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:15:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze   stated  that  the  resolution   was  not                                                                    
intended to disregard environmental  concerns and the issues                                                                    
of climate  change, but a major  philosophical and practical                                                                    
disagreement that cap  and trade is a vehicle to  fix it. He                                                                    
thought  there  clearly  is climate  change  and  there  are                                                                    
environmental    concerns   and    worldwide   environmental                                                                    
degradation  issues.  He  referred  to  testimony  by  Meera                                                                    
Kohler  [President of  Alaska Village  Electric Cooperative,                                                                    
Inc.]  regarding the  impact on  the delivery  of electrical                                                                    
services to  rural Alaska; she projected  an additional cost                                                                    
of $0.04/kWh if the cap and trade bill were implemented.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze MOVED Conceptual Amendment 1:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 26: Insert:                                                                                                   
     Senator Barbara Boxer, Chair,  U.S. Senate Committee on                                                                    
     the  Environment and  Public Works;  and Senator  James                                                                    
     Inhofe, Ranking  Member, U.S.  Senate Committee  on the                                                                    
     Environment and Public Works;                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  spoke in opposition to  the resolution.                                                                    
He noted  that there  were various versions  of the  cap and                                                                    
trade legislation pending in Congress;  he thought some were                                                                    
better  and  some worse.  He  stated  he might  support  the                                                                    
resolution if it were amended.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  relayed that there are  versions of the                                                                    
legislation   that  people   believe   will  encourage   the                                                                    
expansion of natural gas production  and other versions that                                                                    
people  believe will  harm natural  gas pipeline  prospects.                                                                    
He was  working on an  amendment that would  clarify support                                                                    
of versions that would expand  the use and demand for Alaska                                                                    
natural gas.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze put  aside  the bill  until  later in  the                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:19:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker  commented that although there  were various                                                                    
versions of the bill in Congress,  HJR 45 did not target any                                                                    
particular  version but  took  a  stand against  legislation                                                                    
that would negatively impact Alaskans.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 339                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the dividend paid to the state by                                                                      
     the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation; and providing                                                                      
     for an effective date."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:21:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  BUTCHER,  DIRECTOR,  GOVERNMENT  AFFAIRS  AND  PUBLIC                                                                    
RELATIONS,  ALASKA HOUSING  FINANCE CORPORATION,  DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  REVENUE, explained  that the  legislation  would make  a                                                                    
minor adjustment to statute  establishing the Alaska Housing                                                                    
Finance  Corporation  (AHFC)  transfer  plan  for  paying  a                                                                    
dividend  to  the  state.  The  2003  bill  established  the                                                                    
transfer as the  lesser of 75 percent of net  income or $103                                                                    
million.  He  reported  that  AHFC  had  come  back  to  the                                                                    
legislature  in 2006  to adjust  statute wording  because of                                                                    
changes   to  generally   accepted  accounting   principles;                                                                    
similar   accounting   changes    related   to   contractual                                                                    
obligations required additional language changes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  provided  information  about  the  bill's                                                                    
passage through the legislature.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DAN FAUSKE,  CEO/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA  HOUSING FINANCE                                                                    
CORPORATION,  DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
spoke in  support of the  added language. He noted  that the                                                                    
language change  should ensure that the  dividends would not                                                                    
go through changes that could be harmful.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:24:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough queried  the effective  date. Mr.                                                                    
Butcher  replied  that  the  intent was  to  make  sure  the                                                                    
measure would apply to the current fiscal year.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hawker informed  the  committee  that the  measure                                                                    
reflected  the continuing  evolution of  statute sparked  by                                                                    
continuing  evolution in  accounting practices.  He believed                                                                    
the change would result in better reporting and management.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB  339  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  Committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 73                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to honorary foreign consul license                                                                        
     plates; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BOB  LYNN, SPONSOR, spoke to  the bill, which                                                                    
provides  for special  license plates  for firefighters  and                                                                    
emergency  service (EMS)  providers. He  thought the  plates                                                                    
acknowledged good work done by individuals.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:27:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Lynn believed  the  measure would  encourage                                                                    
volunteerism.  He  pointed to  copies  of  the petition  for                                                                    
firefighter  and  EMS  provider license  plates  (copies  on                                                                    
file). He mentioned the zero fiscal note.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  requested   more  information  about  the                                                                    
proposed committee substitute.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
NANCY MANLY, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  BOB LYNN, explained that                                                                    
the  CS  (version  P) addresses  technical  changes  and  an                                                                    
effective date change:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   · Page 1 line 5 - per Legal Services: there was another                                                                      
     subsection added last year to statute so the                                                                               
     subsection number changes from "(y)" to "(z)".                                                                             
   · Page 2 line 30 changes the effective date from 2009 to                                                                     
     2010.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze acknowledged  the straightforward nature of                                                                    
the  changes.  He believed  the  measure  would affect  more                                                                    
volunteer firefighters  than career firefighters  in Alaska.                                                                    
Representative Lynn agreed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Thomas asked  whether doctors  were included  as                                                                    
respondents in rural areas.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hawker  MOVED to  adopt  the  CS  for HB  73,  26-                                                                    
LS0303\P,  Luckhaupt,  2/4/10,  as a  working  draft.  There                                                                    
being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Salmon asked whether  doctors and nurses were                                                                    
included.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:31:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough  asked  whether the  sponsor  was                                                                    
comfortable    with     adding    volunteer    firefighters.                                                                    
Representative Lynn  agreed, as volunteer  firefighters were                                                                    
the backbone of firefighting in many Alaskan communities.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fairclough wanted  an amendment to explicitly                                                                    
include  volunteer firefighters.  She stated  a conflict  of                                                                    
interest as  her sons were volunteer  firefighters. She said                                                                    
her sons would be proud to have the license plate.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Manly  assured her that  the measure  included volunteer                                                                    
firefighters.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  shared concerns  regarding  institutional                                                                    
bias  against   volunteer  fire  fighters.  He   wanted  the                                                                    
language to be very clear.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:33:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JERRY LUCKHAUPT, LEGISLATIVE LEGAL  STAFF, DIVISION OF LEGAL                                                                    
SERVICES AND  VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER,  replied that  the bill                                                                    
does   not   distinguish   between  volunteer   and   career                                                                    
firefighters as long as an individual  is a member of a fire                                                                    
department.  He  explained that  the  majority  of the  fire                                                                    
departments in Alaska are volunteer  departments. Some are a                                                                    
combination  of career  and volunteer  members. Some  states                                                                    
have different  license plates  for each  group; HB  73 does                                                                    
not distinguish between the groups.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  noted that in  his community the  goal has                                                                    
been to bring the groups together.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SEAN  WISNER, CAREER  FIREFIGHTER,  ALYESKA MARINE  TERMINAL                                                                    
AND  VOLUNTEER  FIREFIGHTER,  VALDEZ  FIRE  DEPARTMENT  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  spoke  in  support   of  the  measure.  He                                                                    
related his  history as a firefighter  and emergency medical                                                                    
technician.  He  believed  the   plates  would  help  others                                                                    
recognize  the service  of individuals  and would  encourage                                                                    
volunteerism.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUSIE  KOKLICH,  ALASKA  DIRECTOR, NATIONAL  VOLUNTEER  FIRE                                                                    
COUNCIL, VALDEZ  (via teleconference), testified  in support                                                                    
of the measure.  She informed the committee  that there were                                                                    
approximately  7,200 firefighters  in the  state; 1,300  are                                                                    
paid  career  firefighters.  Volunteers  give  thousands  of                                                                    
hours  of  service.  She  shared  a  story  related  to  her                                                                    
husband,  a  Vietnam veteran  with  a  Purple Heart  license                                                                    
plate. Because  of the  plate, someone  had thanked  him for                                                                    
his service. The thank you meant a great deal to him.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Koklich   added   that  the   bill   would   encourage                                                                    
volunteerism   in   the   state.  She   pointed   out   that                                                                    
volunteerism was  declining around  the country and  she did                                                                    
not want that to happen in Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:38:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Koklich noted that doctors  are not included unless they                                                                    
are an emergency responder.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  acknowledged her contributions  and her                                                                    
husband's.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  MILLER, FIRE  CHIEF, CITY  AND BOROUGH  OF SITKA  AND                                                                    
PRESIDENT,  ALASKA   STATE  FIREFIGHTERS   ASSOCIATION  (via                                                                    
teleconference), testified  in full support of  the measure.                                                                    
He believed  that volunteers  would be  more visible  in the                                                                    
community and that this would encourage volunteerism.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  suggested  adding the  term  "career"  to                                                                    
volunteers who  have offered their services  for many years.                                                                    
Mr.  Miller agreed  that many  of the  volunteers put  in as                                                                    
many hours as paid workers.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:42:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVE TYLER, STATE FIRE  MARSHALL (via teleconference), spoke                                                                    
in  support  of  the  bill   as  a  good  way  to  recognize                                                                    
responders.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze mentioned the fire standards council.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Fairclough   declared   her   conflict   of                                                                    
interest.  Co-Chair Stoltze  did  not think  it  would be  a                                                                    
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker MOVED to report  HB 73 out of Committee with                                                                    
individual  recommendations  and   the  accompanying  fiscal                                                                    
note. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 73(FIN) was REPORTED out  of Committee with a "do pass"                                                                    
recommendation  and  with  attached  new zero  note  by  the                                                                    
Department of Administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 45                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Urging the United States Congress not to enact Cap and                                                                     
     Trade legislation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:45:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze returned to HJR 45.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Conceptual Amendment 2:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Insert page 3, line 12:                                                                                                    
     Whereas there are proposals to amend the pending                                                                           
     legislation that would expand the demand for Alaska                                                                        
     natural gas, and that would benefit Alaska; and                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 16:                                                                                                           
     Insert after "enact", insert "any version of"                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara explained  the  amendment. He  believed                                                                    
there  were versions  of the  cap and  trade legislation  in                                                                    
Congress that would discriminate  against the use of natural                                                                    
gas and therefore  be harmful to Alaska, and  that there are                                                                    
proposals  that  may  not  technically   be  cap  and  trade                                                                    
provisions  that would  encourage  the use  of natural  gas,                                                                    
which would be beneficial to  the state. The amendment first                                                                    
acknowledges the  existence of  proposals that  would expand                                                                    
the  use of  natural  gas. Secondly,  the Alaska  delegation                                                                    
might  work  against   provisions  that  would  discriminate                                                                    
against natural gas and work  for provisions that would move                                                                    
a natural gas pipeline  forward. Inserting the language "any                                                                    
version  of"   would  address   the  intent   to  discourage                                                                    
detrimental versions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze MOVED  to divide  the  amendment into  two                                                                    
parts. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 2a:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Insert page 3, line 12:                                                                                                    
     Whereas there are proposals to amend the pending                                                                           
     legislation that would expand the demand for Alaska                                                                        
     natural gas, and that would benefit Alaska; and                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  explained  Amendment 2a.  He  noted  a                                                                    
number of  factual statements in  the "Whereas"  section; he                                                                    
regarded the amendment as factual as well.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:49:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  expressed  concerns  that  the  amendment                                                                    
would clutter the issue.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara responded  that  the "Whereas"  section                                                                    
made  factual  statements,  not   whether  the  issues  were                                                                    
supported  or   not.  He  believed  the   statement  in  the                                                                    
amendment was bipartisan.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  spoke against Amendment 2a.  He stated                                                                    
concerns about secondary effects and about climate change.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze MAINAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Salmon, Doogan, Foster                                                                                          
OPPOSED:  Joule,   Kelly,  Thomas,   Austerman,  Fairclough,                                                                    
Stoltze, Hawker.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4/7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:52:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 2b:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 16:                                                                                                           
     Insert after "enact", insert "any version of"                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze believed the  amendment to be technical and                                                                    
did not  object to it.  There being NO  OBJECTION, Amendment                                                                    
2b was adopted.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker  clarified the amendment numbers.  There was                                                                    
a discussion about language in the amendment.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:55:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  maintained  that a  "Whereas"  section                                                                    
beginning with line 5 on  page 3 was inaccurate. The section                                                                    
says that  cap and  trade will harm  the demand  for natural                                                                    
gas, which he claimed was not  true for some versions of the                                                                    
legislation. He wanted to distinguish between proposals.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze disagreed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  proposed inserting language  to clarify                                                                    
that  certain versions  of cap  and trade  legislation would                                                                    
harm demand for natural gas.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:58:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze suggested  changing "would"  on line  6 to                                                                    
"may".                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara reiterated  his  concerns that  certain                                                                    
versions would be bad for Alaska.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker MOVED conceptual Amendment 3:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 6:                                                                                                            
     Replace "would" with "may"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker  MOVED to  report HJR 45  as amended  out of                                                                    
Committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal note.  There  being NO OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSHJR  45(FIN) was  REPORTED  out of  Committee  with a  "do                                                                    
pass" recommendation and with attached  new zero note by the                                                                    
Legislative Affairs Agency.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:59:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 AM.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
04 Changes from Version A to Version P HB 73.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
HB 73
04__HB_73_Firefighter_EMS_Support_Letter-emails.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
HB 73
05_Add'l_support_HB_73.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
HB 73
05_Add'l_support_HB_73.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
HB 73
06 Sponsor Statement HB 73.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
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07 HB073CS-DOA-DMV-02-01-10UPDATEDFY11.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
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13 2009 Petition for plates - 238 signatures.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
HB 339 AHFC Transfer Plan Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
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HB 339 AHFC transfer plan Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
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02 CS for HB 73 Version P.pdf HFIN 3/12/2010 9:00:00 AM
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