Legislature(2009 - 2010)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/18/2009 08:30 AM FINANCE


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-- Meeting Adjourned --
-- Recessed to 10:15 pm Today --
+ SB 116 APPROP: ENERGY ASSISTANCE TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ SB 125 AK AEROSPACE CORPORATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 36 INITIATIVES: CONTRIBUTIONS/ PROCEDURES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ SB 72 CHILD SAFETY SEATS & SEAT BELTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 72(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 157 REEMPLOYMENT OF RETIREES; EXEMPT SERVICE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 157(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       April 18, 2009                                                                                           
                         8:44 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:44:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                   
to order at 8:44 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Hawker, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Bill Thomas Jr., Vice-Chair                                                                                      
Representative Allan Austerman                                                                                                  
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
Representative Anna Fairclough                                                                                                  
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Woodie Salmon                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Linda  Menard;  Jay   Livey,  Staff,  Senator  Lyman                                                                   
Hoffman;  Ron Kreher,  Chief of Field  Services, Division  of                                                                   
Public Assistance, Department  of Health and Social Services;                                                                   
Jeff Stepp,  Staff, Senator Joe Paskvan;  Representative Kyle                                                                   
Johanson;   Ginger    Blaisdell,   Director,    Division   of                                                                   
Administrative  Services,  Department   of  Revenue;  Senator                                                                   
Hollis  French; Tim  Lamkin, Concerned  Parent; Mary  Siroky,                                                                   
Special Assistant,  Department  of Transportation and  Public                                                                   
Facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Bob Charles, Association of Village  Council Presidents; Dale                                                                   
Nash, Chief  Executive Officer, Alaska Aerospace  Development                                                                   
Corporation;  Ronnie  Sullivan,   Emergency  Medical  Service                                                                   
Provider; Jane  Fellman, Coordinator, Safe Kids,  Kenai; John                                                                   
Cook, Legislative Director, Alaska  Auto Dealers Association;                                                                   
Margaret Hayashi,  Emergency and Critical Care  Nurse; Janice                                                                   
Tower, Alaska Chapter of the American  Academy of Pediatrics;                                                                   
Gordon Glaser; Gordon Glaser.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 36     "An   Act   prohibiting    initiatives   that   are                                                                   
          substantially  similar to those that  failed within                                                                   
          the  previous  two  years;  relating  to  financial                                                                   
          disclosure  reporting  dates for  persons,  groups,                                                                   
          and nongroup entities  that expend money in support                                                                   
          of  or  in opposition  to  initiatives,  initiative                                                                   
          information   contained   in  election   pamphlets,                                                                   
          initiative    petitions,     initiative    petition                                                                   
          circulators,  and public hearings  for initiatives;                                                                   
          and   requiring  a   standing   committee  of   the                                                                   
          legislature  to consider initiatives  scheduled for                                                                   
          appearance on the election ballot."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          HB 36 was HEARD and HELD in Committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 157    "An Act amending the State Personnel Act to place                                                                     
          in  the  exempt  service the  chief  economist  and                                                                   
          state comptroller in  the Department of Revenue and                                                                   
          certain  professional positions concerning  oil and                                                                   
          gas  within the  Department  of Natural  Resources;                                                                   
          relating to reemployment  of and benefits for or on                                                                   
          behalf  of reemployed  retired teachers and  public                                                                   
          employees  by providing  for an  effective date  by                                                                   
          amending  the delayed effective  date for  secs. 3,                                                                   
          5, 9,  and 12,  ch. 57, SLA  2001 and sec.  19, ch.                                                                   
          50,  SLA  2005;  and  providing  for  an  effective                                                                   
          date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          CS HB 157(FIN) was REPORTED out of Committee with                                                                     
          a "do  pass" recommendation  and with  attached new                                                                   
          indeterminate  fiscal  note  by the  Department  of                                                                   
          Revenue, zero  note 2 by the Department  of Natural                                                                   
          Resources,  and zero  note 4  by the Department  of                                                                   
          Administration.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CS SB 72(STA)                                                                                                                   
          "An Act  relating to use of child  safety seats and                                                                   
          seat belts."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HCS  CSSB 72(FIN)  was  REPORTED  out of  Committee                                                                   
          with no recommendation  and attached zero note 1 by                                                                   
          the   Department   of  Transportation   and   Pubic                                                                   
          Facilities.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CS SB 116(FIN)                                                                                                                  
          "An Act  making a special appropriation  for energy                                                                   
          assistance for Alaska  residents; and providing for                                                                   
          an effective date."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          CS SB  116(FIN) was REPORTED out of  Committee with                                                                   
          a "do pass" recommendation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SB 125    "An Act  changing the name of the  Alaska Aerospace                                                                   
          Development Corporation to Alaska Aerospace                                                                           
          Corporation."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          SB 125 was REPORTED out of Committee with a "do                                                                       
          pass" recommendation and with attached fiscal note                                                                    
          1 by the Department of Commerce, Community and                                                                        
          Economic Development.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 116(FIN)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act making a special appropriation for energy                                                                          
     assistance for Alaska residents; and providing for an                                                                      
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:47:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAY LIVEY, STAFF,  SENATOR LYMAN HOFFMAN, stated  that SB 116                                                                   
required  a one-time appropriation  of  $9 million to  assist                                                                   
Alaskans in paying  for energy costs. Although  the amount of                                                                   
fuel was  abundant, the cost of  fuel has forced  families to                                                                   
make difficult budgetary choices,  and has been compounded by                                                                   
lower than  average yearly  incomes. In  1990, fuel  costs in                                                                   
Bethel were 45  percent higher than fuel costs  in Anchorage,                                                                   
by  2007,  the  differential was  92  percent.  The  one-time                                                                   
appropriation would  be divided  between the Low  Income Home                                                                   
Energy Assistance  Program (LIHEAP),  and the Alaska  Heating                                                                   
Assistance Program (AKHAP). Both  programs provide state-wide                                                                   
assistance.   Approximately  162   communities  are   served.                                                                   
Communities  with  recipients   include;  Anchorage,  Palmer,                                                                   
Wasilla, North  Pole and Homer.  He added that some  areas of                                                                   
rural Alaska are served by tribal programs as well.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Livey detailed  the criteria  set out  for residents  to                                                                   
establish enough  points to qualify for assistance  under the                                                                   
two  programs. The  applicant must  be a  state resident  and                                                                   
must live in the  home in which the heating  costs occur. Set                                                                   
income guidelines  must also be met. Each applicant  would be                                                                   
assigned a number of points based  on the climate in the area                                                                   
in which  they live, which would  be assessed by  degree days                                                                   
in  the area.  The  number of  disabled  and  elderly in  the                                                                   
household   would  also  be   considered.  The   requirements                                                                   
determine  that the  assistance  would be  rewarded to  those                                                                   
with the  highest need.  In addition,  the assistance  money,                                                                   
determined by  the application  points, would be  distributed                                                                   
directly to the vendor and not the individual applicant.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:52:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Livey noted  that The  Department of  Health and  Social                                                                   
Services (DHSS) would initiate  a final check run in April of                                                                   
2009.  This would  allow  enough  time for  the  appropriated                                                                   
funds to  become available to  those with established  vendor                                                                   
accounts,  or who  become eligible  before  April 2009.  This                                                                   
would  assist families  with fuel  debts from  the winter  of                                                                   
2009 in  paying existing  debts and  continue to afford  heat                                                                   
through the spring.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Livey furthered  that based on the amount  of federal and                                                                   
state  funds DHSS  had  to spend  on heating  assistance,  he                                                                   
could calculate that $220 was  spent per applicant point. The                                                                   
average  number  of points  is  15,  which equals  $3300  for                                                                   
heating assistance  in 2009. If  the resident pays  $6.50 per                                                                   
gallon for 84 gallons per month,  or 507 gallons total during                                                                   
the  winter  months, and  uses  150  gallons per  month,  the                                                                   
existing  program will  only pay  56 percent  of the  heating                                                                   
need.  He thought  that  the  additional assistance  was  not                                                                   
extravagance for the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:55:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough wondered  if  one household  could                                                                   
receive    assistance   from    both    LIHEAP   and    AKHAP                                                                   
simultaneously.  Mr. Livey  replied that  it would depend  on                                                                   
the family's income. The qualification  would be based on the                                                                   
federal  poverty  level.  He  added  that  AKHAP  was  funded                                                                   
through general state funds and  LIHEAP was funded federally.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fairclough requested further clarification.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Livey  explained that  the funding  for LIHEAP  cannot be                                                                   
used to fund AKHAP,  but the funds for AKHAP can  be used for                                                                   
LIHEAP. If  a family  of four earns  under $40,000  per year,                                                                   
funding  may be  combined from  both programs,  but would  be                                                                   
distributed  under LIHEAP.  If  the family's  income  exceeds                                                                   
$40,000, general funds must be used under AKHAP.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fairclough asked  how many families under each                                                                   
program  receive  combined  funds.  Mr.  Livey  guessed  that                                                                   
13,000 families in the state are  served by both programs; 90                                                                   
percent of the families are under the poverty line.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:58:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule queried what  percentage of  a family's                                                                   
available income,  throughout the  state, is spent  on energy                                                                   
costs.  Mr. Livey  replied that  he  did not  have the  exact                                                                   
percentages.   He   believed   that  the   percentages   were                                                                   
significantly higher in rural Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule thought that  the elderly and  disabled                                                                   
should be the first to qualify  for assistance. He told story                                                                   
of  two elderly  people  who needed  assistance  but did  not                                                                   
qualify for AKHAP.  He worried that the funds  were not going                                                                   
to those who  needed the assistance most. He  wondered if the                                                                   
point system could be negatively manipulated.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:01:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Livey  responded that the  program used to  assign points                                                                   
has a  component that  provides extra  points to the  elderly                                                                   
and  disabled. He  added  that income  does  factor into  the                                                                   
determination of points.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule  asked about CITGO, which  provides fuel                                                                   
assistance to  Alaska Native families.  He wondered  how long                                                                   
the program  had been in effect,  what was the cost,  and who                                                                   
was eligible.  Mr. Livey understood  that CITGO  had provided                                                                   
some fuel to a  few communities in 2008, and  was expected to                                                                   
again  in  May  2009.  Through  regional  corporations,  some                                                                   
communities had accepted the fuel, some did not.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule asked if  the cost  of the program  was                                                                   
known. Mr. Livey replied no.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford questioned the  ratio of  federal to                                                                   
state dollars  for the individuals under the  federal poverty                                                                   
level. Mr.  Livey explained  that the money  is melded  and a                                                                   
dollar value  is assigned per  point. A family  under $40,000                                                                   
would receive one dollar, which  would be combination of both                                                                   
federal and  state money, per  point. A family  above $40,000                                                                   
per year would receive only state money.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford asked  for further clarification  on                                                                   
the  ratio  of melded  state  and  federal funds.  Mr.  Livey                                                                   
thought that the ratio was 2/3  federal dollars and 1/3 state                                                                   
dollars.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Thomas  asked if two families, living  together in                                                                   
one  household,  could  qualify  for  assistance.  Mr.  Livey                                                                   
understood that one application was allowed per house.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Thomas  said that  when  AGIA  was moved  out  of                                                                   
committee in 2007, intent language  had been written into the                                                                   
bill that would have allocated  $60,000 per year into LIHEAP.                                                                   
The Senate Finance Committee removed  the intent language. He                                                                   
felt  that  that  action  may be  connected  to  the  funding                                                                   
problems the programs currently face.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RON  KREHER, CHIEF  OF  FIELD  SERVICES, DIVISION  OF  PUBLIC                                                                   
ASSISTANCE,  DEPARTMENT   OF  HEALTH  AND   SOCIAL  SERVICES,                                                                   
explained that families below  150 percent of poverty receive                                                                   
100 percent  federal funds,  and families  above receive  100                                                                   
percent state funds. The appropriation  of $10 million for FY                                                                   
2008,  stipulated   that  the  funds  be  used   for  heating                                                                   
assistance  programs. At  the  end of  the  program year  the                                                                   
department examines  the number  of households served  by the                                                                   
programs. Surplus  funds are  used as supplemental  payments.                                                                   
The  $10   million  would  be   spread  out  between   LIHEAP                                                                   
recipients and  AKHAP recipients. The amount  of state versus                                                                   
federal  funds distributed  would  depend  on where  families                                                                   
fell on the poverty line.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule proposed  that the department manipulate                                                                   
the point system to ensure assistance  to the elderly and the                                                                   
disabled.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:10:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kreher felt  that manipulation of the point  system would                                                                   
require regulatory  changes. With the creation  of AKHAP, and                                                                   
the pushing  up of income limits  to 225 percent  of poverty,                                                                   
any household that  is income ineligible for  the program has                                                                   
an  income  in  excess  of the  limited  amount.  The  income                                                                   
qualifications do  not currently take into  consideration how                                                                   
the  income   budgeted.  He  thought   that  the   number  of                                                                   
households at  the higher  end of the  income bracket  may be                                                                   
dropping  of in  assistance use  because  their gross  income                                                                   
exceeds  the limits  set forth  by the  program. The  program                                                                   
also requires  seasonal incomes  to be annualized,  which can                                                                   
put a family above the income limit.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule stated his  support for the  provision,                                                                   
but  reiterated concerns  regarding  people in  need who  are                                                                   
denied  assistance. Mr.  Kreher replied  that the  department                                                                   
would  work  with  the legislature  to  remedy  the  concerns                                                                   
regarding   elderly   and   disabled   persons   with   need.                                                                   
Representative   Joule    expressed   excitement    for   the                                                                   
collaborative effort.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:14:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked if  federal portion of  the LIHEAP                                                                   
program was  funded at $10  million. Mr. Kreher  replied that                                                                   
the program received $22 million  in federal funds, including                                                                   
emergency  contingency funds,  and an  increased black  grant                                                                   
amount.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked  if the federal  portion  would be                                                                   
closer to $10  million, in a year without a  federal stimulus                                                                   
package. Mr. Kreher replied yes.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked how many LIHEAP  applications were                                                                   
filed  each  year.  Mr.  Kreher shared  that  2008  had  been                                                                   
unusual,  with 37  percent more  applications  filed than  in                                                                   
previous years.  This was  because of  the poor economy,  but                                                                   
also  marketing  efforts  by the  department.  Of  the  9,000                                                                   
applications that have been processed,  the majority are well                                                                   
below poverty level.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  asked   how   many  applications   the                                                                   
department  expected  to receive  by  the  end of  2009.  Mr.                                                                   
Kreher thought it could be 16,000.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara asked how  much assistance each applicant                                                                   
would receive. Mr.  Kreher answered that in  rural Alaska the                                                                   
average  household   received  $4,000.  A  very   low  income                                                                   
household in an urban setting received $900.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:17:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Salmon commented on  the 15 point  system. He                                                                   
wondered if 15  points was the maximum amount  of points that                                                                   
could  be received.  Mr.  Kreher  answered that  the  maximum                                                                   
number of points  that could be received was  32, the minimum                                                                   
was 2.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Salmon  what  were  the  qualifications  that                                                                   
would earn  the applicant  15 points.   Mr. Kreher  said that                                                                   
the   points  were   based  on   community  heating   points,                                                                   
calculated  based on  location and heating  degree days.  For                                                                   
example,  heating   points  for   Willow  is  7;   there  are                                                                   
additional points  for children,  elderly, and disabled.  The                                                                   
factor is also  based on housing type, such as  size. Where a                                                                   
family falls in  the poverty income brackets  also determines                                                                   
the percentage of points.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Salmon asked if  there were points given based                                                                   
on  distance from  urban centers.  Mr. Kreher  said that  the                                                                   
points  were  based on  heating  degree  days and  where  the                                                                   
community is located, including being on the road system.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  wondered how the effective  date ending                                                                   
FY 2009 related to FY 2008.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Livey understood  that the bill would provide  a one-time                                                                   
appropriation to  fund the department's last check  run of FY                                                                   
2009. The money would be obligated by June 30, 2009.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked how  much state funding  had been                                                                   
given to the program in 2008.  Mr. Livey replied $10 million.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:22:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BOB  CHARLES,  ASSOCIATION  OF   VILLAGE  COUNCIL  PRESIDENTS                                                                   
testified  via  teleconference,   spoke  in  support  of  the                                                                   
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly expressed  frustration with the bill. He                                                                   
opined that there  had been significant discussion  about the                                                                   
one-time nature  of past appropriations. He considered  it an                                                                   
entitlement  that   would  be  expected  in   perpetuity.  He                                                                   
understood  the need,  but was  upset  about provisions  that                                                                   
purport  to be one-time.  He thought  federal funding  should                                                                   
only be  used to help  the truly  needy. He cited  statistics                                                                   
around the state regarding use of state and federal funds.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:28:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Salmon  pointed  out to  the  committee  that                                                                   
state  funds have  been  made available  to  urban areas  for                                                                   
energy assistance  in the past. He felt that  the rural areas                                                                   
of the state had been treated  unfairly. He felt that a long-                                                                   
term  solution had  been established  in urban  areas and  he                                                                   
wanted the same solutions for rural areas.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara recognized  that the Healy coal plant had                                                                   
been heavily subsidized over the  years. He surmised that the                                                                   
reason there  was no  road money in  rural areas  was because                                                                   
there are no  roads. He emphasized that the  assistance funds                                                                   
that were  distributed  in rural Alaska  were necessary,  not                                                                   
extravagant,  and  should  not   be  limited  to  a  one-time                                                                   
commitment.  He stated that  he did not  vote for  a one-time                                                                   
commitment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:32:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  countered that Fairbanks  does not have                                                                   
a   hydro  plant.   He  maintained   his   position  on   the                                                                   
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  MOVED to  report  CS  SB 116(FIN)  out  of                                                                   
Committee   with    individual   recommendations    and   the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal  note. There  being NO OBJECTION,  it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CS  SB 116(FIN)  was REPORTED  out  of Committee  with a  "do                                                                   
pass" recommendation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:33:39 AM          RECESSED                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:47:15 AM          RECONVENED                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 125                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act changing the name of the Alaska Aerospace                                                                          
     Development    Corporation     to    Alaska    Aerospace                                                                   
     Corporation."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:47:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF STEPP,  STAFF, SENATOR  JOE PASKVAN, SPONSOR,  explained                                                                   
that the bill  was an act that  would change the name  of the                                                                   
Alaska  Aerospace  Development   Corporation  to  the  Alaska                                                                   
Aerospace Corporation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman expressed support for the bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  asked if the funds reflected  in the fiscal                                                                   
note were  federal funds. Mr.  Stepp replied that it  was all                                                                   
federal receipts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford  wondered why  the  name change  was                                                                   
necessary.  Mr.   Stepp  explained  that  the   facility  has                                                                   
evolved,  from   when  it  was   created  in  1991,   from  a                                                                   
development facility,  to fully functioning  launch facility.                                                                   
The name change would reflect that evolution.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze opened public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DALE  NASH,   CHIEF  EXECUTIVE   OFFICER,  ALASKA   AEROSPACE                                                                   
DEVELOPMENT  CORPORATION,  testified via  teleconference,  he                                                                   
spoke in support of the legislation.  He said the name change                                                                   
would  add  clarification  as  to  the  nature  of  the  work                                                                   
performed at the facility.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:53:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze closed public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker MOVED to report  SB 125 out of Committee with                                                                   
individual recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal note.                                                                   
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SB  125  was REPORTED  out  of  Committee  with a  "do  pass"                                                                   
recommendation  and  with  attached  fiscal  note  1  by  the                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 36                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  prohibiting initiatives that  are substantially                                                                   
     similar  to those  that failed within  the previous  two                                                                   
     years; relating to financial  disclosure reporting dates                                                                   
     for persons,  groups, and nongroup entities  that expend                                                                   
     money  in support  of or in  opposition to  initiatives,                                                                   
     initiative information contained  in election pamphlets,                                                                   
     initiative  petitions, initiative petition  circulators,                                                                   
     and  public hearings  for initiatives;  and requiring  a                                                                   
     standing  committee  of   the  legislature  to  consider                                                                   
     initiatives  scheduled for  appearance  on the  election                                                                   
     ballot."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:54:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KYLE JOHANSON,  SPONSOR,  explained that  the                                                                   
presentation was to  allow a full vetting of  the concepts in                                                                   
the bill, to be contemplated during the interim.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johanson reviewed  sectional analysis (Copy on                                                                   
File). Section  1 refers  to disclosure  of money going  into                                                                   
the  initiative process.  If  more than  $500  is spent,  the                                                                   
process of disclosure  begins, which would inform  the public                                                                   
who  is  contributing  to  the  changing  of  state  statute.                                                                   
Sections 2 and  three contain conforming language.  Section 4                                                                   
removes  initiative  from AS  15.13.110e  and  moves it  into                                                                   
Section 5. Section 6 reexamines  contribution disclosure; how                                                                   
money is  reported to  the public  after it  is put  into the                                                                   
system. Section  7 remains the  same. Section 8  was included                                                                   
by  the Judiciary  Committee.  Section  9 requires  that  all                                                                   
signature gatherers  have a complete  copy of  the initiative                                                                   
on their person,  at all times, while  collecting signatures.                                                                   
Section  10 discusses  the  change in  the  $1 per  signature                                                                   
payment method  to an hourly  payment method.  Research shows                                                                   
that   the  hourly   method  allows   for  honest   signature                                                                   
collection  and the possibility  for discressionary  bonuses.                                                                   
Section  11   discusses  the   requirement  for   two  public                                                                   
hearings, in all four judicial  districts, on the initiative,                                                                   
before the Lieutenant  Governor announces that it  will go to                                                                   
the ballot. This  would allow for intention  to be understood                                                                   
before  an  election  takes place.  He  summarized  that  the                                                                   
intention  of the  bill was to  allow for  a better  informed                                                                   
electorate.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:02:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johanson   urged  members  to   look  at  the                                                                   
legislation in  the interim. He looked forward  to discussion                                                                   
and debate of the bill in the 2010 session.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SS  HB  36  was HEARD  and  HELD  in  Committee  for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:05:00 AM         AT EASE                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:19:45 AM         RECONVENED                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 157                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  amending the  State Personnel  Act to  place in                                                                   
     the  exempt  service  the   chief  economist  and  state                                                                   
     comptroller  in the  Department of  Revenue and  certain                                                                   
     professional  positions concerning  oil  and gas  within                                                                   
     the  Department   of  Natural  Resources;   relating  to                                                                   
     reemployment  of  and  benefits  for  or  on  behalf  of                                                                   
     reemployed  retired  teachers  and public  employees  by                                                                   
     providing for an effective  date by amending the delayed                                                                   
     effective date  for secs. 3, 5,  9, and 12, ch.  57, SLA                                                                   
     2001 and  sec. 19, ch. 50,  SLA 2005; and  providing for                                                                   
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:19:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker MOVED to ADOPT  the CS for HB 157, Work Draft                                                                   
26-GH1035\S, Wayne, 4/18/09, as a working document.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara objected for discussion.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hawker gave  some history  of  the legislation.  He                                                                   
reported that  several amendments to  the bill had  been made                                                                   
in the  Senate, which  resolved contention between  concerned                                                                   
parties. Expedition  of the bill  would allow  the Department                                                                   
of Law to retain four attorneys,  who would otherwise be laid                                                                   
off.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:22:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked  if  the bill  reflected the  most                                                                   
current version in the Senate. Co-Chair Hawker replied yes.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara removed his objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CS for  HB 157, Work Draft  26-GH1035\S, Wayne,  4/18/09, was                                                                   
ADOPTED as a working document.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GINGER  BLAISDELL,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE,  explained that she had been                                                                   
asked to carry  the bill by three different  departments; The                                                                   
Department   of   Administration   (DOA),  which   does   the                                                                   
retire/rehire portion of the bill,  The Department of Revenue                                                                   
(DOR),  which  has requested  two  positions  go into  exempt                                                                   
status, and The Department of  Natural Resources (DNR), which                                                                   
was requesting  full time exemption  for 23 part  time exempt                                                                   
positions. The CS  deleted Section 1 from the  original bill,                                                                   
which  amended AS  39.24.110, moving  certain positions  from                                                                   
one  sub-section   to  another,  changing  what   was  called                                                                   
"special inquiry", and was a temporary  exempt status, into a                                                                   
full-time  exempt status.  The  positions  would be  retained                                                                   
within DNR. In the DOR, Section  2 was changed by eliminating                                                                   
the Chief  Economist position.  The position has  been vacant                                                                   
for a year due to a lack of qualified  applicants and the low                                                                   
salary   offered   for  qualified   applicants.   The   state                                                                   
comptroller   position  remains   as  originally   requested.                                                                   
Changes in the  retire/rehire sunset extension  would require                                                                   
a person  to be retired for  90 days, rather than  30, before                                                                   
rehire.  Another  change requires  the  teachers'  retirement                                                                   
system and other government PERs  participants to follow more                                                                   
rigorous  recruitment  efforts.  A  third  change  reduces  a                                                                   
minimum  of  five  eligible  applicants   to  three  eligible                                                                   
applicants, before considering  a retiree for a position. The                                                                   
fourth request  changes the sunset  of the program  from four                                                                   
years to one year.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:25:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Thomas asked who had  requested the changes in the                                                                   
bill. Ms.  Blaisdell replied  that the  bill originated  from                                                                   
the governor's office, but several  committees contributed to                                                                   
the changes.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze warned  that care  should be  taken to  not                                                                   
breaching bicameral prerogatives.  He felt that this bill was                                                                   
the best vehicle to please both bodies.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked if the bill allows  for the rehire                                                                   
of retirees across the board without  exempting any agencies.                                                                   
Ms. Blaisdell replied in the affirmative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked  if the rehired  retiree  would be                                                                   
receiving pension benefits and  medical insurance in addition                                                                   
to   being   a   rehire.   Ms.    Blaisdell   answered   yes.                                                                   
Representative Gara  asked if there  was a cost to  the state                                                                   
in those  situations.  Ms. Blaisdell said  that the  position                                                                   
would be  filled either way,  by a retiree  or a new  hire. A                                                                   
retiree  would  only  be  rehired   if  they  were  the  most                                                                   
qualified  applicant. She  reiterated the  sideboards in  the                                                                   
bill that regulate the rehire of retirees.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:29:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked  if  the intent  of the  original                                                                   
bill  had been  changes by  the CS.  Ms. Blaisdell  explained                                                                   
that one  major difference is  the 90 day minimum  retirement                                                                   
requirement  before   a  retiree  is  eligible   for  rehire.                                                                   
Representative  Kelly asked  who generated  the changes.  Ms.                                                                   
Blaisdell  replied that  the changes  were  generated by  the                                                                   
administration and the Senate State Affairs Committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly expressed support for the bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked  if the  bill applied  to Tier  IV                                                                   
employees who retire.  Ms. Blaisdell shared that  she did not                                                                   
know of  any Tier  IV employees  that had  been eligible  for                                                                   
retirement.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:31:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule interpreted  that  the bill  encouraged                                                                   
local rehire. Ms. Blaisdell said that was correct.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly said that  he had heard that some people                                                                   
"fell through the  cracks", he wondered what  that meant. Ms.                                                                   
Blaisdell  answered that  there  were two  provisions in  the                                                                   
bill;   the  retire/rehire   program,   which  includes   all                                                                   
participants  who are eligible  to be  retired under  PERs or                                                                   
TERs,  would  be  included  as  long  as  their  municipality                                                                   
offered  the  program.  The  elimination   of  the  positions                                                                   
considered under exempt status,  are not retired individuals,                                                                   
but positions  that have been  difficult to fill, and  do not                                                                   
fit within the classified service.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  opened public testimony. There  being none,                                                                   
public testimony was closed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:34:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze commented on the three, zero fiscal notes.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker  stated he would  not be supporting  the bill                                                                   
at this  time, were  it not  for the  consequences on  senior                                                                   
attorneys at the Department of  Law. He felt it would be more                                                                   
detrimental to  the state to  not continue their  employment,                                                                   
than to pass the bill at this time.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze   expressed  remorse   that  he   had  been                                                                   
uncomunicative with the department as of late.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hawker  MOVED  to  report CS  HB  157(FIN)  out  of                                                                   
Committee   with    individual   recommendations    and   the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal  note. There  being NO OBJECTION,  it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CS  HB 157(FIN)  was REPORTED  out  of Committee  with a  "do                                                                   
pass"  recommendation  and with  attached  new  indeterminate                                                                   
fiscal note by the Department  of Revenue, zero note 2 by the                                                                   
Department  of Natural  Resources,  and zero  note  4 by  the                                                                   
Department of Administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 72(STA)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to use of child safety seats and seat                                                                     
     belts."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:37:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOLLIS  FRENCH, SPONSOR,  explained the  legislation.                                                                   
He stated  that he  bill would bring  in $200,000  in federal                                                                   
funds  to  help people  afford  the  booster seats  that  are                                                                   
necessary under law. He said that  the current statute was in                                                                   
need of articulation.  The bill breaks the statute  into five                                                                   
parts. He referred to a handout  with pictures explaining the                                                                   
different  sections  of  the   bill.  Section  1  applies  to                                                                   
children under  one year; Section  2 applies to  children one                                                                   
year to four  years. Section 3 applies to children  over four                                                                   
years, but under  eight years. Section 4 applies  to children                                                                   
who exceed the  height/weight requirements in  Section 3, and                                                                   
Section 5 is  a catch-all provision, which  allows the driver                                                                   
to determine whether  a booster seat or a car  seat should be                                                                   
used.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:39:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze opened public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
RONNIE   SULLIVAN,   EMERGENCY   MEDICAL   SERVICE   PROVIDER                                                                   
testified  via  teleconference,   spoke  in  support  of  the                                                                   
legislation. She  felt that the  bill would reduce  confusion                                                                   
when deciding the best type of safety seat for a child.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JANE  FELLMAN, COORDINATOR,  SAFE KIDS,  KENAI testified  via                                                                   
teleconference,  testified  in   support  of  the  bill.  She                                                                   
emphasized the importance of the  safety of children in cars.                                                                   
She described  the level of  protection provided  by boosters                                                                   
and car  seats. She relayed a  story of children who  did not                                                                   
fit in  the seat belts  and who  needed bolsters.  She stated                                                                   
the need for both education and legislation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:44:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  COOK,   LEGISLATIVE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA  AUTO   DEALERS                                                                   
ASSOCIATION  testified via teleconference,  urged passage  of                                                                   
the legislation. He  felt that the current law  was vague and                                                                   
outdated and  did not address  the needs of children  four to                                                                   
eight years of  age. He stated that many states  have updated                                                                   
child restraint  laws. He  described broad-based  support for                                                                   
the legislation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET   HAYASHI,  EMERGENCY   AND  CRITICAL  CARE   NURSE,                                                                   
testified via  teleconference, spoke in support  of the bill.                                                                   
She stressed that  current law was outdated.  She stated that                                                                   
two  children in  her community  had  died in  the past  year                                                                   
because they had not been properly restrained.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:49:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JANICE  TOWER,  ALASKA CHAPTER  OF  THE AMERICAN  ACADEMY  OF                                                                   
PEDIATRICS,  testified   via  teleconference,   testified  in                                                                   
support  of  the  legislation.   Alaska's  pediatricians  are                                                                   
willing to  educate citizens regarding  the issue.  She urged                                                                   
timely passage to receive the federal funds.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GORDON  GLASER,  CARSEAT  TASKFORCE  AND  INJURY  PREVENTION,                                                                   
testified  via teleconference,  urged  committee support  for                                                                   
the legislation.  He shared that the single  leading cause of                                                                   
death  and the  second leading  cause  of hospitalization  of                                                                   
children four to eight years old  is motor vehicle accidents.                                                                   
None  of the  children who  were  hospitalized were  properly                                                                   
restrained in booster seats.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:53:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TIM  LAMKIN, CONCERNED  PARENT,  spoke in  opposition of  the                                                                   
legislation.  He  felt that  the  bill  was of  being  poorly                                                                   
written and  was not good  policy. He explained  Anton's Law,                                                                   
which established improved safety  ratings for manufacturers,                                                                   
and improved  law enforcement  of safety  seat laws.  He felt                                                                   
that it  was important  that no loopholes  could be  found in                                                                   
the legislation.  He expressed  confusion for the  purpose of                                                                   
booster seats  for eight  year old children  over 80  lbs. He                                                                   
felt that  there could be  situation where children  over the                                                                   
required   booster   age   limit,  but   under   the   weight                                                                   
requirement, would  be expected to sit in a  booster seat. He                                                                   
stressed that he supported the  intent of the bill in keeping                                                                   
children safe, but felt that it  was a poorly written policy.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:00:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze closed public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked  why the  provision could  not be                                                                   
simplified.  Senator French  stated  that the  intent was  to                                                                   
work with  experts from  the American  Academy of  Pediatrics                                                                   
and    the    National    Highway    Transportation    Safety                                                                   
Administration  to  adopt  language  that  clearly  expressed                                                                   
intent.  He furthered that  Section 5  is in  the bill  for a                                                                   
reason, to  protect young people  up to age 16.  Dropping the                                                                   
section, without  a major  re-write of  the bill, would  make                                                                   
the bill unclear.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:03:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked  why the  height requirement  was                                                                   
insufficient.  He wondered  about the  last line  on page  2,                                                                   
"determined solely  by the driver".  Mr. French  no objection                                                                   
to clarifying the language on  page 2. He emphasized that the                                                                   
bill saves lives  and raises money. He said  that the experts                                                                   
think that the weight requirements should be on statute.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  asked if federal dollars  would be lost                                                                   
if  the weight  requirement was  removed from  the bill.  Mr.                                                                   
French replied  yes. Representative Kelly clarified  that the                                                                   
weight limit  was a federal  requirement. Mr.  French replied                                                                   
in  the  affirmative.  Representative Kelly  asked  what  the                                                                   
weight requirement  was. Mr. French  answered that it  was 65                                                                   
lbs.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:06:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hawker  voiced  concern   about  ambiguity  in  the                                                                   
language in  Section 5. He  thought that the  provision could                                                                   
result in undue fear of police officers for children.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Thomas shared  a negative  experience with  money                                                                   
obtained  for  a seat  belt  law  in  his district.  He  also                                                                   
expressed concern  for 15 year old children, who  do not meet                                                                   
the   weight   requirements,   but   do   meet   the   height                                                                   
requirements,  being expected  to ride  in booster seats.  He                                                                   
thought they would be unduly stigmatized.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:12:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  French  said  that  the  example  would  fall  under                                                                   
Section 5.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fairclough requested  confirmation that the 65                                                                   
lb limit would comply with federal law.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MARY SIROKY, SPECIAL ASSISTANT,  DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION                                                                   
AND   PUBLIC   FACILITIES,   replied  that   that   was   her                                                                   
understanding.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough  asked   if  the  sponsor  was  in                                                                   
opposition  to the  amendment  that would  change the  weight                                                                   
requirement from 80 to 65. Senator French replied no.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough  asked   if  there  was  a  choice                                                                   
between  the  height  and  weight  requirements.  Ms.  Siroky                                                                   
replied  that  the height  and  weight requirements  must  be                                                                   
included in statute in order to receive the federal funds.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:15:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly asked if  Section 5 gave parents control                                                                   
in determining the use of child  restraints for children over                                                                   
eight  and under 16  years of  age. Ms.  Siroky replied  that                                                                   
that  was  correct. Representative  Kelly  requested  further                                                                   
clarification.   Ms. Siroky thought  that federal  height and                                                                   
weight requirements must be met.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:16:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked if  the language stated,  "height                                                                   
and weight"  or "height  or weight".  Mr. Lamkin  interpreted                                                                   
that the  requirement was for children  to be over 65  lbs or                                                                   
over 4' 9".                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough queried  the  document Mr.  Lamkin                                                                   
was reading information from.  Mr. Lamkin replied that it was                                                                   
the  grant requirement  under  federal  law.   Representative                                                                   
Fairclough pointed out that a  grant requirement is different                                                                   
from federal  law. She  wondered if a  federal code  could be                                                                   
cited. Mr. Lamkin  said that according to Anton's  Law, there                                                                   
is no federal height or weight requirement.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:19:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GORDON  GLASER testified  via  teleconference, reported  that                                                                   
the language states that both  height and weight requirements                                                                   
must be  met, under  Anton's Law,  in order  to meet  federal                                                                   
funding requirements.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Austerman  asked  if  the  testifier  was  an                                                                   
attorney.  Mr. Glaser said he was not.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:22:00 AM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Thomas MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 1:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, Line 11:                                                                                                           
          Delete: "80"                                                                                                          
          Insert: "65"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze objected for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze withdrew  his  OBJECTION.   There being  NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:23:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Thomas MOVED Amendment 2:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, Lines 18-23                                                                                                        
          Delete all material                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze objected for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara   thought  that  Lines  18   through  23                                                                   
clarified the language of the bill.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:24:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  French reported  that the same  amendment was  voted                                                                   
down in another  committee.  He explained that  the amendment                                                                   
has legal drafting problems.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:25:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hawker  commented  that deleting  the  lines  would                                                                   
resolve the intent of the amendment.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  suggested  a legal  opinion  from  the                                                                   
Department of Law.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:26:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked the  committee to consider  moving                                                                   
the bill out  of committee and resolving the  semantic matter                                                                   
on the Floor.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  maintained  a  continued  OBJECTION  to                                                                   
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote  was taken on the motion to  ADOPT Amendment                                                                   
2.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Thomas, Hawker                                                                                                        
OPPOSED: Gara,  Kelly, Austerman, Crawford,  Salmon, Stoltze,                                                                   
Fairclough                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster and Representative  Joule were  absent                                                                   
from the vote.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (7-2).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:29:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly MOVED to ADOPT Conceptual Amendment 3:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, Line 23:                                                                                                           
     In between "determined" and "by"                                                                                           
     Insert: "solely"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:30:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fairclough pointed  out the continued argument                                                                   
between "and" and "or", in the  height and weight requirement                                                                   
language of the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Thomas revisited his  comment concerning the money                                                                   
that  had  been  theoretically  going  to  his  district  for                                                                   
mandatory seatbelts  laws. He expressed frustration  with the                                                                   
negative impact  of not receiving  those funds. He  felt that                                                                   
if  the bill  would  force families  in  rural  areas to  but                                                                   
boosters for  their children,  the state should  help finance                                                                   
the booster seats.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze commented on the fiscal notes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:32:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  MOVED to report HCS CSSB  72(FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee   with    individual   recommendations    and   the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal  note. There  being NO OBJECTION,  it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HCS  CSSB  72(FIN) was  REPORTED  out  of Committee  with  no                                                                   
recommendation and attached zero  note 1 by the Department of                                                                   
Transportation and Pubic Facilities.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:33:08 AM         RECESSED TO THE CALL OF THE CHAIR:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:15:37 PM         RECONVENED                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:16 PM.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
02__Sponsor_Statement_HB157_Exempt_13Mar09[1].doc HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
HB 157
03__HB_157_-_legislative-report-on-retiree-return-program-2-6-09.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
HB 157
HB036-OOG-LtGOV-4-17-09.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
HFIN 3/15/2010 1:30:00 PM
HFIN 3/16/2010 9:00:00 AM
HB 36
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SB 125 Sponsor Statement (S FIN).pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB 125 Letter of Support.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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Alaska Heating Assistance Programs.ppt HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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ANHB Support Letter.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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AVERAGE MONTHLY TEMPERATURES FOR BETHEL ALASKA.doc HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB 116 - gallons by comunity.xls HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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CSHB 157 (FIN) Version S.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB 125 Talking Points Sen. Paskvan.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB 72 HFC Amendment 1 and 2.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB72AAPSupportLetter.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB72ABINSupportLetter.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB72Changes.PDF HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB72Chart.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB72OtherStates.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SB72Sponsor.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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Senate Bill 116 Sponsor Statement.doc HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SSHB 36 Hearing Request Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SSHB 36 Hearing Request Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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SSHB 36 Hearing Request Backup.pdf HFIN 4/18/2009 8:30:00 AM
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