Legislature(1993 - 1994)

01/24/1994 01:35 PM FIN

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                     HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                   
                        January 24, 1994                                       
                            1:35 P.M.                                          
                                                                               
  TAPE HFC 94 - 14, Side 1, #000 - end.                                        
  TAPE HFC 94 - 14, Side 2, #000 - end.                                        
  TAPE HFC 94 - 15, Side 1, #000 - #271.                                       
                                                                               
  CALL TO ORDER                                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                 
  to order at 1:35 P.M.                                                        
                                                                               
  PRESENT                                                                      
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson               Representative Hoffman                         
  Co-Chair MacLean              Representative Martin                          
  Vice-Chair Hanley             Representative Navarre                         
  Representative Brown          Representative Parnell                         
  Representative Grussendorf    Representative Therriault                      
  Representative Foster                                                        
                                                                               
  ALSO PRESENT                                                                 
                                                                               
  Major  General  Hugh  L.  Cox   III,  The  Adjutant  General                 
  Commissioner, Department  of Military and  Veterans Affairs;                 
  Jeff   Morrison,   Director,   Administrative  and   Support                 
  Services,  Department  of  Military  and  Veterans  Affairs;                 
  Darrel  J. Rexwinkel,  Commissioner, Department  of Revenue;                 
  Tracy  McGill,  Director, Administrative  Services Division,                 
  Department of  Revenue; Ervin Paul  Martin, Director  (SYSM:                 
  MESADES); Alaska Division  of Emergency Services; Department                 
  of  Military and Veterans Affairs; Representative Con Bunde;                 
  C.E. Swackhammer, Deputy Commissioner, Department of  Public                 
  Safety; Patti Swenson, Aid to Representative Bunde.                          
                                                                               
  SUMMARY                                                                      
                                                                               
  AGENCY BUDGET OVERVIEW:                                                      
                                                                               
            Department of Military and Veterans Affairs                        
            Department of Revenue                                              
  HB 18     An Act relating to police protection service areas                 
            in municipalities.                                                 
                                                                               
            CS HB 18 (CRA) was reported out  of Committee with                 
            "no recommendations" and with a fiscal impact note                 
            by the Department of Public Safety.                                
  SB 19     An Act relating to the crime of conspiracy.                        
                                                                               
                                1                                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
            HCS  CS SB  19  (FIN) was  held  in Committee  for                 
            further consideration.                                             
  AGENCY BUDGET OVERVIEWS:  DMVA AND DCED                                      
                                                                               
  (*Copies of log  notes, meeting  tapes and  handouts are  on                 
  file with the  Legislative Finance Division.   Contact #465-                 
  3795).                                                                       
                                                                               
  Log #               DISCUSSION                                               
                                                                               
  HFC 14-1            Co-Chair Larson convened the  meeting of                 
  the #000                 House  Finance  Committee  at  1:35                 
                           P.M.                                                
                                                                               
                      Department  of  Military   and  Veterans                 
                      Affairs (DMVA) provided the  Committee a                 
                      handout  (Copy  on  file)  of  the  FY95                 
                      program objectives for the Department.                   
                                                                               
                      Department  to  qualify   for  available                 
                      federal  funds,  the   State  would   be                 
                      required to provide the Amount requested                 
                      by  the  Department.    He  provided  an                 
                      overview of the handout.                                 
                                                                               
  Department's                  long    range    goals     and                 
                                objectives.                                    
                                                                               
                      Services, DMVA discussed the attachment,                 
                      speaking  to  the Disaster  Relief Fund.                 
                      The majority of the fund is comprised of                 
                      federal and money would be available for                 
                      a major state disaster.                                  
                                                                               
  budget                   recommendations  requested  by  the                 
                           Department.    Discussion  followed                 
                           amongst Committee members regarding                 
                           the  "carry  forward" funds  of the                 
                           Disaster Relief Fund.                               
                                                                               
  Services,                     Department  of  Military   and                 
                                Veterans  Affairs pointed  out                 
                                that the Department  will need                 
                                $800 thousand dollars for:  1.                 
                                                                               
                                2                                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                Air transportation capability;                 
                                2.   Contract management;  and                 
                                3.   Training  for   hazardous                 
                                response fund.                                 
                                                                               
                      practices  within  the   Department  for                 
                      rural   Alaska.     Major   General  Cox                 
                      explained  guidelines  for   hiring  are                 
                      established by a federal mandate.                        
                                                                               
                      expenditures from the 470 Fund.                          
                                                                               
                      amendments to the  Department's proposed                 
                      FY95 budget:   1.  National  Guard Youth                 
                      Corp  Challenge  Program;  and  2.  King                 
                      Salmon Air Base Operations.                              
                                                                               
                      of  the  Department and  asked  that all                 
                      programs  be  adequately   funded  which                 
                      would   guarantee    continued   federal                 
                      funding.                                                 
                                                                               
  HFC 94-14,Side 2    Darrell     Rexwinkel,     Commissioner,                 
                      Department of                                            
                      copy  of  the  Department's FY95  Budget                 
                      Summary.  (Copy on file).                                
                                                                               
                      overview  of  the  handout  listing  the                 
                      Boards and Commissions.                                  
                                                                               
                      of   the   net   departmental   position                 
                      increase and decrease.                                   
                                                                               
  Child                    Support Enforcement Agency increase                 
                           requests  resulting  from   federal                 
                           regulations.  He added,  the agency                 
                           netted $50 million dollars in FY94.                 
                                                                               
  formula                  funded programs and  summarized the                 
                           intention   of   the   boards   and                 
                           commissions.                                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                3                                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
                      list   of   capital   budget   requests,                 
                      followed   by   the   Committee   asking                 
                      questions   of   the    overall   budget                 
                      proposals.                                               
                                                                               
                      meeting concluded at 2:45 P.M.                           
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson reconvened the full House  Finance Committee                 
  at 2:45 P.M. in order to discuss proposed legislation.                       
  HOUSE BILL 18                                                                
                                                                               
       "An Act relating to police  protection service areas in                 
       municipalities."                                                        
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson  summarized  the  previous  discussion  and                 
  action taken by the Committee on HB 18.                                      
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE noted the  legislation would not be                 
  limited to the Municipality of Anchorage and that the fiscal                 
  impact  could   be  determined   after  each  service   area                 
  determined the  level desired.   The  training period  would                 
  last eighteen months.                                                        
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  asked  if the  Department  of  Public                 
  Safety  was  currently  using  funds  to protect  the  areas                 
  specified in the  legislation.  Representative Bunde  stated                 
  currently, basic level service is  available to all citizens                 
  of the State although, no additional services would be added                 
  to the Hillside area in Anchorage.                                           
                                                                               
  Discussion followed amongst  Committee members regarding the                 
  cost of  the fiscal  note and  the services  which would  be                 
  rendered, resulting from that cost.                                          
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  MacLean  expressed  concern  that the  legislation                 
  could create a statutory problem in Title 29.                                
                                                                               
  PATTI  SWENSON,  AID  TO  REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE,  noted  the                 
  proposed   legislation   would   provide  a   constitutional                 
  amendment  to Title 29 and it would supercede Title 21.  She                 
  referenced  the  memo  from  Tam  Cook from  Legal  Services                 
  verifying that information.                                                  
                                                                               
  Discussion followed regarding the  differences in protection                 
  as offered by the State Troopers and the local police.                       
                                                                               
  C.E. SWACKHAMMER, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC                 
  SAFETY (DPS),  noted that the State Trooper's policy for the                 
  Hillside area would reply to life threatening situations.                    
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                4                                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 94-15, Side 1).                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair MacLean questioned if the  State Trooper's would be                 
  under the scrutiny  of the municipalities with  the proposed                 
  legislation.   Mr. Swackhammer  pointed out  that there  are                 
  provisions in  Title 29 regarding  how service areas  can be                 
  formed.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault MOVED to report CS HB 18 (CRA) out                 
  of Committee  with individual recommendations.   There being                 
  NO OBJECTIONS, it was so ordered.                                            
                                                                               
  Representative Brown MOVED  the accompanying fiscal  note by                 
  the Department  of Public Safety.  There being NO OBJECTION,                 
  it was so ordered.                                                           
                                                                               
  CS  HB  18 (CRA)  was  reported  out of  Committee  with "no                 
  recommendations"  and with a  new fiscal impact  note by the                 
  Department of Public Safety.                                                 
  SENATE BILL 19                                                               
                                                                               
       "An Act relating to the crime of conspiracy."                           
                                                                               
  Representative Brown  provided the Committee  with a summary                 
  of MKB Amendment #5. [Attachment  #1].  Representative Brown                 
  apologized  to the Committee for the misinformation provided                 
  by the  original Amendment  #5.   She offered Attachment  #1                 
  (Copy on file) which would clarify Amendment #5, provided by                 
  the Statute  of  Limitation action.    Representative  Brown                 
  MOVED Amendment #5.                                                          
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson  requested that  the  amendment be  held in                 
  Committee for further discussion with the Department of Law.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Representative Brown WITHDREW  THE MOTION.   There being  NO                 
  OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                
                                                                               
  HCS  CS  SB  19 (FIN)  was  HELD  in  Committee for  further                 
  discussion.                                                                  
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting adjourned at 3:10 P.M.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
                     HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                   
                        January 24, 1994                                       
                            1:35 P.M.                                          
                                                                               
  TAPE HFC 94 - 14, Side 1, #000 - end.                                        
                                                                               
                                5                                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
  TAPE HFC 94 - 14, Side 2, #000 - end.                                        
  TAPE HFC 94 - 15, Side 1, #000 - #271.                                       
                                                                               
  CALL TO ORDER                                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson called  the House Finance  Committee meeting                 
  to order at 1:35 P.M.                                                        
                                                                               
  PRESENT                                                                      
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson               Representative Hoffman                         
  Co-Chair MacLean              Representative Martin                          
  Vice-Chair Hanley             Representative Navarre                         
  Representative Brown          Representative Parnell                         
  Representative Grussendorf    Representative Therriault                      
  Representative Foster                                                        
                                                                               
  ALSO PRESENT                                                                 
                                                                               
  Major  General  Hugh  L.  Cox   III,  The  Adjutant  General                 
  Commissioner, Department  of Military and  Veterans Affairs;                 
  Jeff   Morrison,   Director,   Administrative  and   Support                 
  Services,  Department  of  Military  and  Veterans  Affairs;                 
  Darrel  J. Rexwinkel,  Commissioner, Department  of Revenue;                 
  Tracy  McGill,  Director, Administrative  Services Division,                 
  Department of  Revenue; Ervin  Paul Martin,  Director (SYSM:                 
  MESADES); Alaska Division  of Emergency Services; Department                 
  of Military and Veterans Affairs;  Representative Con Bunde;                 
  C.E. Swackhammer, Deputy Commissioner, Department of  Public                 
  Safety; Patti Swenson, Aid to Representative Bunde.                          
                                                                               
  SUMMARY                                                                      
                                                                               
  AGENCY BUDGET OVERVIEW:                                                      
                                                                               
            Department of Military and Veterans Affairs                        
            Department of Revenue                                              
                                                                               
  HB 18     An Act relating to police protection service areas                 
            in municipalities.                                                 
                                                                               
            CS HB 18 (CRA) was  reported out of Committee with                 
            "no recommendations" and with a fiscal impact note                 
            by the Department of Public Safety.                                
                                                                               
  SB 19     An Act relating to the crime of conspiracy.                        
                                                                               
            HCS CS  SB  19 (FIN)  was  held in  Committee  for                 
            further consideration.                                             
                                                                               
  AGENCY BUDGET OVERVIEWS:  DMVA AND DCED                                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  (*Copies of  log notes,  meeting tapes  and handouts are  on                 
  file with the  Legislative Finance Division.   Contact #465-                 
  3795).                                                                       
                                                                               
  Log #               DISCUSSION                                               
                                                                               
  HFC 14-1            Co-Chair Larson convened the  meeting of                 
  the #000                 House  Finance  Committee  at  1:35                 
                           P.M.                                                
                                                                               
                      Department  of  Military   and  Veterans                 
                      Affairs (DMVA) provided the  Committee a                 
                      handout  (Copy  on  file)  of  the  FY95                 
                      program objectives for the Department.                   
                                                                               
                      Department  to  qualify   for  available                 
                      federal  funds,  the   State  would   be                 
                      required to provide the Amount requested                 
                      by  the  Department.    He  provided  an                 
                      overview of the handout.                                 
                                                                               
  Department's                  long    range    goals     and                 
                                objectives.                                    
                                                                               
                      Services, DMVA discussed the attachment,                 
                      speaking  to  the Disaster  Relief Fund.                 
                      The majority of the fund is comprised of                 
                      federal and money would be available for                 
                      a major state disaster.                                  
                                                                               
  budget                   recommendations  requested  by  the                 
                           Department.    Discussion  followed                 
                           amongst Committee members regarding                 
                           the  "carry  forward" funds  of the                 
                           Disaster Relief Fund.                               
                                                                               
  Services,                     Department  of  Military   and                 
                                Veterans  Affairs pointed  out                 
                                that the Department  will need                 
                                $800 thousand dollars for:  1.                 
                                Air transportation capability;                 
                                2.   Contract management;  and                 
                                3.   Training   for  hazardous                 
                                response fund.                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                7                                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
                      practices  within  the   Department  for                 
                      rural   Alaska.     Major   General  Cox                 
                      explained  guidelines  for   hiring  are                 
                      established by a federal mandate.                        
                                                                               
                      expenditures from the 470 Fund.                          
                                                                               
                      amendments to the  Department's proposed                 
                      FY95 budget:   1.   National Guard Youth                 
                      Corp  Challenge  Program;  and  2.  King                 
                      Salmon Air Base Operations.                              
                                                                               
                      of  the  Department and  asked  that all                 
                      programs  be  adequately   funded  which                 
                      would   guarantee    continued   federal                 
                      funding.                                                 
                                                                               
  HFC 94-14,Side 2    Darrell     Rexwinkel,     Commissioner,                 
                      Department of                                            
                      copy  of  the  Department's FY95  Budget                 
                      Summary.  (Copy on file).                                
                                                                               
                      overview  of  the  handout  listing  the                 
                      Boards and Commissions.                                  
                                                                               
                      of   the   net   departmental   position                 
                      increase and decrease.                                   
                                                                               
  Child                    Support Enforcement Agency increase                 
                           requests  resulting  from   federal                 
                           regulations.  He added,  the agency                 
                           netted $50 million dollars in FY94.                 
                                                                               
  formula                  funded programs and  summarized the                 
                           intention   of   the   boards   and                 
                           commissions.                                        
                                                                               
                      list   of   capital   budget   requests,                 
                      followed   by   the   Committee   asking                 
                      questions   of   the    overall   budget                 
                      proposals.                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                8                                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
                      meeting concluded at 2:45 P.M.                           
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson reconvened the  full House Finance Committee                 
  at 2:45 P.M. in order to discuss proposed legislation.                       
                                                                               
  HOUSE BILL 18                                                                
                                                                               
       "An Act relating to police  protection service areas in                 
       municipalities."                                                        
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson  summarized  the  previous  discussion  and                 
  action taken by the Committee on HB 18.                                      
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE noted the  legislation would not be                 
  limited to the Municipality of Anchorage and that the fiscal                 
  impact   could  be  determined   after  each   service  area                 
  determined the  level desired.   The  training period  would                 
  last eighteen months.                                                        
                                                                               
  Representative Brown  asked  if  the  Department  of  Public                 
  Safety  was  currently  using  funds  to protect  the  areas                 
  specified in the legislation.   Representative Bunde  stated                 
  currently, basic level service is  available to all citizens                 
  of the State although, no additional services would be added                 
  to the Hillside area in Anchorage.                                           
                                                                               
  Discussion followed amongst  Committee members regarding the                 
  cost of  the fiscal  note and  the services  which would  be                 
  rendered, resulting from that cost.                                          
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  MacLean  expressed  concern  that the  legislation                 
  could create a statutory problem in Title 29.                                
                                                                               
  PATTI  SWENSON,  AID  TO  REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE,  noted  the                 
  proposed   legislation   would   provide  a   constitutional                 
  amendment to Title 29 and it would supercede Title 21.   She                 
  referenced  the  memo  from  Tam  Cook from  Legal  Services                 
  verifying that information.                                                  
                                                                               
  Discussion followed regarding the  differences in protection                 
  as offered by the State Troopers and the local police.                       
                                                                               
  C.E. SWACKHAMMER, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC                 
  SAFETY (DPS), noted that the State Trooper's policy  for the                 
  Hillside area would reply to life threatening situations.                    
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 94-15, Side 1).                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair MacLean questioned if the  State Trooper's would be                 
  under the scrutiny  of the municipalities with  the proposed                 
  legislation.   Mr. Swackhammer  pointed out  that there  are                 
  provisions in Title  29 regarding how  service areas can  be                 
                                                                               
                                9                                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
  formed.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault MOVED to report CS HB 18 (CRA) out                 
  of Committee  with individual recommendations.   There being                 
  NO OBJECTIONS, it was so ordered.                                            
                                                                               
  Representative Brown MOVED  the accompanying fiscal note  by                 
  the Department of Public Safety.  There being  NO OBJECTION,                 
  it was so ordered.                                                           
                                                                               
  CS  HB  18 (CRA)  was  reported  out of  Committee  with "no                 
  recommendations"  and with a  new fiscal impact  note by the                 
  Department of Public Safety.                                                 
                                                                               
  SENATE BILL 19                                                               
                                                                               
       "An Act relating to the crime of conspiracy."                           
                                                                               
  Representative Brown  provided the Committee with  a summary                 
  of MKB Amendment #5. [Attachment  #1].  Representative Brown                 
  apologized to the Committee for  the misinformation provided                 
  by  the original  Amendment #5.   She offered  Attachment #1                 
  (Copy on file) which would clarify Amendment #5, provided by                 
  the  Statute of  Limitation  action.   Representative  Brown                 
  MOVED Amendment #5.                                                          
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson  requested that  the  amendment be  held in                 
  Committee for further discussion with the Department of Law.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Representative Brown WITHDREW  THE MOTION.   There being  NO                 
  OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                
                                                                               
  HCS  CS  SB  19 (FIN)  was  HELD  in  Committee for  further                 
  discussion.                                                                  
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting adjourned at 3:10 P.M.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
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