Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/20/1993 01:40 PM FIN

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                     HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                   
                         April 20, 1993                                        
                            1:40 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
  TAPE HFC 93-111, Side 2, #000 - end.                                         
  TAPE HFC 93-112, Side 1, #000 - end.                                         
  TAPE HFC 93-112, Side 2, #000 - end.                                         
  TAPE HFC 93-113, Side 1, #000 - 229.                                         
                                                                               
  CALL TO ORDER                                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson called the House  Finance Committee to order                 
  at 1:40 p.m.                                                                 
                                                                               
  PRESENT                                                                      
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson             Representative Hoffman                           
  Co-Chair MacLean            Representative Martin                            
  Vice-Chair Hanley           Representative Navarre                           
  Representative Brown        Representative Parnell                           
  Representative Foster       Representative Therriault                        
  Representative Grussendorf                                                   
                                                                               
  ALSO PRESENT                                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Davidson;  Nancy  Bear-Usera,  Commissioner,                 
  Department   of   Administration;  Mead   Treadwell,  Deputy                 
  Commissioner, Department of Environmental Conservation; Carl                 
  L.  Rosier,  Commissioner,  Department  of  Fish  and  Game;                 
  Charles  Cole, Attorney General,  Department of  Law; Jerome                 
  Selby,  Mayor,  Kenai  Peninsula  Borough;  Neil  Johannsen,                 
  Director,  Division   of  Parks   and  Outdoor   Recreation,                 
  Department  of  Natural  Resources; Chris  Gates,  Director,                 
  Division of Economic Development, Department of Commerce and                 
  Economic Development.                                                        
                                                                               
  SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                          
                                                                               
  HB 81     "An Act relating to the longevity bonus program."                  
                                                                               
            CSHB 81 (FIN)  was reported out of  Committee with                 
            "individual  recommendations"  and  with a  fiscal                 
            impact note  by the  Department of  Administration                 
            and with a fiscal impact note by the Department of                 
            Health and Social Services.                                        
                                                                               
  HB 167    "An Act relating  to air  quality control and  the                 
            prevention,   abatement,   and   control  of   air                 
            pollution;   relating   to   civil  and   criminal                 
            penalties,  damages, and  other  remedies for  air                 
            quality   control   violations;   clarifying   the                 
            definition  of  `hazardous  substance' to  include                 
                                                                               
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            releases   and   threatened   releases    to   the                 
            atmosphere; amending the lien  provisions relating                 
            to  the   oil  and  hazardous   substance  release                 
            response   fund;   relating   to  inspection   and                 
            enforcement   powers   of   the    Department   of                 
            Environmental Conservation; and  providing for  an                 
            effective date."                                                   
                                                                               
            CSHB 167 (FIN) was reported  out of Committee with                 
            a  "do  pass"  recommendation and  with  a  fiscal                 
            impact  note by  the  Department of  Environmental                 
            Conservation and with a fiscal  impact note by the                 
            Department of Law.                                                 
                                                                               
  HB 269    "An   Act   making   special  appropriations   for                 
            restoration projects relating to  the Exxon Valdez                 
            oil spill and for oil spill response projects; and                 
            providing for an effective date."                                  
                                                                               
            HB 269 was HELD in Committee.                                      
  HOUSE BILL NO. 81                                                            
                                                                               
       "An Act relating to the longevity bonus program."                       
                                                                               
  NANCY BEAR-USERA, COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                 
  urged the Committee's support for  the Governors proposal to                 
  grandfather  participants  in at  the  current rate  of $250                 
  dollars with a three year phase down.                                        
                                                                               
  Commissioner Usera referred to the companion bill to HB  81,                 
  CSSB 58 (FIN).  She observed that the Administration has had                 
  the long standing problem of constitutionality in developing                 
  a phase out  program.  She  noted that eligibility based  on                 
  age has  been  questioned  by  the courts.    She  discussed                 
  amendments adopted in CSSB 58 (FIN) which have been endorsed                 
  by the Administration.   She pointed out that CSSB  58 (FIN)                 
  uses the application date as the eligibility criteria.   She                 
  added that a severability clause was  added to CSSB 58 (FIN)                 
  to assure  that if  a portion  of the  bill is  found to  be                 
  unconstitutional other  portions of  the bill  would not  be                 
  overturned.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson provided members with Work Draft, 8-GH1022-J                 
  (Attachment  1).  He  explained that the  Work Draft extends                 
  the phase out over a longer period  than CSHB 81 (STA).  Co-                 
  Chair Larson MOVED  to ADOPT Work Draft,  8-GH1022-J.  There                 
  being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                       
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson compared CSHB  81 (FIN) with CSHB 81  (STA).                 
  He reviewed provisions contained in CSHB 81 (STA):                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
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       *    End new enrollment  with those who turn  65 before                 
            January 1, 1994;                                                   
                                                                               
       *    Bonus payments would be set at $225 dollars.                       
                                                                               
  He reviewed provisions of CSHB 81 (FIN):                                     
                                                                               
       *    End new enrollment  with those who turn  65 before                 
            January 1, 1996;                                                   
                                                                               
  Bonus payments would be:                                                     
                                                                               
       *    $225, if  the person reached the age  of 65 before                 
            January 1, 1994;                                                   
                                                                               
       *    $150, if the person  reached the age of  65 before                 
            January 1, 1995;                                                   
                                                                               
       *    $100,  if the person reached  the age of 65 before                 
            January 1, 1996;                                                   
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson  compared CSHB 81 (FIN) with  CSSB 58 (FIN).                 
  Co-Chair  Larson MOVED  to AMEND  CSHB 81 (FIN)  by deleting                 
  "person  reached  the  age of  65"  and  inserting "person's                 
  application was submitted"  on page 1, lines 8  - 13.  There                 
  being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                       
                                                                               
  Commissioner Usera explained that eligibility  will be based                 
  on the date of application not age.  She gave the example of                 
  a 76 year old person who moves to the state and  applies for                 
  the first time after  January 1, 1995 but before  January 1,                 
  1996.  The individual would be  eligible for the same amount                 
  as  other  first  time participants  applying  at  that time                 
  ($100).                                                                      
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley MOVED  to ADOPT page  2, lines 2 -  31                 
  and page 3, lines 1 and 2, the language contained in CSSB 58                 
  (FIN)  with  the  following  amendments  to  that  language:                 
  Delete  "1997"  insert "1996"  on page  2,  lines 6  and 28;                 
  delete "(4)" insert "(3)", page  2, line 7.  There being  NO                 
  OBJECTION, the  amendments were  incorporated  into CSHB  81                 
  (FIN).                                                                       
                                                                               
  Representative  Hanley MOVED to report CSHB  81 (FIN) out of                 
  Committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  with  the                 
  accompanying fiscal notes.  Representative Hoffman OBJECTED.                 
  A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                    
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown,  Grussendorf,   Hanley,  Martin,   Parnell,                 
                 Therriault, MacLean, Larson                                   
  OPPOSED:  Hoffman, Foster                                                    
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Representative Navarre was not present for the vote.                         
                                                                               
  The MOTION PASSED (8-2).                                                     
                                                                               
  CSHB 81 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with "individual                 
  recommendations"  and  with  a  fiscal  impact note  by  the                 
  Department of Administration  and with a fiscal  impact note                 
  by the Department of Health and Social Services.                             
  HOUSE BILL NO. 269                                                           
                                                                               
       "An Act  making special appropriations  for restoration                 
       projects relating to the Exxon Valdez oil spill and for                 
       oil  spill  response  projects;  and providing  for  an                 
       effective date."                                                        
                                                                               
  JEROME SELBY, MAYOR, KENAI PENINSULA  BOROUGH noted that the                 
  legislature is appropriating a total of $103 million dollars                 
  as a result  of the Exxon/Valdez  oil spill.  He  emphasized                 
  that the Kenai Peninsula Borough absorbed over 50 percent of                 
  the damage and impacts of the  spill.  He stressed that  the                 
  area that absorbed  over 50  percent of the  impact is  only                 
  receiving $3 million dollars from HB 269 and $200.0 thousand                 
  dollars from the  ALYESKA Settlement.  He  observed that the                 
  area  will  receive  some benefit  from  the  proposed ferry                 
  appropriation.  He requested that section 7 on page three be                 
  deleted and the funding be reappropriated as follows:                        
                                                                               
       *    $1 million  dollars for acquisition  of Department                 
            of Fish and Game weir  sites on Kodiak Island  (He                 
            noted that the weir sites are being closed); and                   
                                                                               
       *    $3,750.0  million  dollars  to the  University  of                 
            Alaska Fishery Industrial Technology  (Tec) Center                 
            (section).                                                         
                                                                               
  In  addition,  Mayor  Selby  suggested  that section  12  be                 
  reduced by $75.0  thousand dollars and added  to section 10.                 
  He noted that this  would fully fund the state's  portion of                 
  the Tec Center.   He  requested that $9  million dollars  be                 
  inserted for acquisition on  Afognak Island.  He noted  that                 
  the  area  is scheduled  for  logging and  contains critical                 
  habitat.                                                                     
                                                                               
  CHARLES COLE,  ATTORNEY GENERAL, DEPARTMENT OF  LAW provided                 
  members with AMENDMENT  1 (Attachment 2).  He explained that                 
  Amendment 1 would require a  feasibility study and financial                 
  plan demonstrating the  financial viability of  the proposed                 
  Sea Life  Center prior  to appropriation.     Representative                 
  Foster  MOVED   to  ADOPT  AMENDMENT  1.    There  being  NO                 
  OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Co-Chair  Larson  questioned if  funding  for the  oil spill                 
  response assistance ferry vessel contained in section 13 (b)                 
  has already been appropriated.  He MOVED to AMEND HB 269  by                 
  deleting section 13 (b) page 4, line  31 and page 5, lines 1                 
  - 3.                                                                         
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 93-112, Side 1)                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson pointed out  that other  appropriations for                 
  the ferry include:                                                           
                                                                               
       *    $7 million dollars - 470 Fund;                                     
                                                                               
       *    $7.5 million - Federal Trusteeship Council;                        
                                                                               
       *    $500  thousand  dollars  remaining  from  previous                 
            appropriations.                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson reiterated  his motion to delete  section 13                 
  (b).  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                           
                                                                               
  Attorney General Cole  suggested that "substantial  ongoing"                 
  be deleted on  page 5, line 12.  He stated that the language                 
  is redundant.  Co-Chair Larson  MOVED to delete "substantial                 
  ongoing" on page  5, line 12.  There  being NO OBJECTION, it                 
  was so ordered.                                                              
                                                                               
  Attorney General Cole  recommended that on  page 4, line  23                 
  after  "private   entities"  insert  "for   public  research                 
  institutions".  Representative Therriault  offered Amendment                 
  2,  on page  4, line 23  insert "competitively  awarded" and                 
  delete  "with private  entities  under AS  46.03.020.     He                 
  stated  that  the amendment  would  allow the  University of                 
  Alaska  to  compete for  contracts.   Attorney  General Cole                 
  advised that "public or private entities" be inserted.   Co-                 
  Chair Larson summarized page  4, line 23 to read,  "to enter                 
  into competitively awarded contracts with public  or private                 
  entities   for   research   programs..."      Representative                 
  Therriault MOVED to  AMEND HB  269 to insert  "competitively                 
  awarded contracts with  public or private entities".   There                 
  being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                       
                                                                               
  Attorney General Cole  proposed that  "habitat" be added  at                 
  the beginning of line 29, page  3.  Co-Chair Larson MOVED to                 
  AMEND, HB 269 to insert "habitat" page 3, line 29.                           
                                                                               
  Attorney  General   Cole   suggested   that   "and   related                 
  facilities" be  inserted at the end of line  2, page 3.  Co-                 
  Chair Larson MOVED  to AMEND  HB 269  on page 3,  line 2  by                 
  adding at  the end  of the  line  "and related  facilities".                 
  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Attorney General Cole advised that page 3, line 7 be amended                 
  to  delete  "Cook  Inlet,  whichever  is considered  by  the                 
  Department of  Fish  and Game  to be  more appropriate"  and                 
  insert "Kenai  Peninsula, at  a location  considered by  the                 
  Department of Fish and Game".                                                
                                                                               
  Representative Brown noted that sites  were ranked according                 
  to  biological,   technical  and  logistical  factors  by  a                 
  technical and  industry  subcommittee.   She  observed  that                 
  Seward  and  Juneau Auke  Bay  were considered  to  have the                 
  highest technical potential.  She asserted that Kasistna Bay                 
  is  not  an  appropriate  location for  the  facility.   She                 
  suggested "Kasistna Bay"  be deleted and "Seward  or Juneau"                 
  be inserted.                                                                 
                                                                               
  CARL  ROSIER,  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF  FISH AND  GAME                 
  stressed that Kasistna Bay cannot be entirely ruled out.  He                 
  felt that the facility  should be built in the  general area                 
  of Kasistna  Bay or  the lower  Kenai Peninsula  and not  in                 
  Southeast Alaska.                                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson asked if the feasibility study will consider                 
  location.                                                                    
                                                                               
  CHRIS  GATES,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,                 
  DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT stated that                 
  it  is  not  anticipated  that  the feasibility  study  will                 
  include site location.  He emphasize that the ability of the                 
  center to sustain its operations will be considered.                         
                                                                               
  Representative Brown asked if lower Kenai Peninsula included                 
  Seward.  Commissioner  Rosier replied that it  would include                 
  Seward.   Representative Brown  referred to  backup material                 
  detailing  criteria  for  site  selection.    She  expressed                 
  concern  that a site may be  selected that does not meet the                 
  criteria.  Attorney General Cole emphasized the need to link                 
  the appropriations to the restoration.                                       
  Representative Brown MOVED  to AMEND AMENDMENT 3,  to delete                 
  "at Kasistna Bay  or".  There being NO OBJECTION,  it was so                 
  ordered.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson reiterated the motion  to adopt AMENDMENT 3.                 
  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                 
                                                                               
  Attorney General  Cole suggested  that the  Committee delete                 
  "1994"  and  insert "1999"  on page  5,  line 13.   Co-Chair                 
  Larson MOVE to  delete "1994" and  insert "1999" on page  5,                 
  line 13.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                       
                                                                               
  Attorney General  Cole discussed  the Governor's  priorities                 
  concerning expenditures of restoration funding.                              
  Co-Chair Larson asked  how the  Kachemak Bay Visitor  Center                 
                                                                               
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  will meet the restoration requirement.                                       
                                                                               
  JOHN  SANDOR,  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT   OF  ENVIRONMENTAL                 
  CONSERVATION  stated  that  the  location  will  be  decided                 
  jointly with  the Department  of Natural  Resources and  the                 
  Kachemak Bay  Advisory Committee.   He  emphasized that  the                 
  project will replace  recreation resources lost as  a result                 
  of the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill.                                               
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson  asked  who   will  operate  the  shellfish                 
  hatchery proposed in section 5.   Commissioner Rosier stated                 
  that  the Department of  Fish and Game  will begin operation                 
  with  the  intent to  turnover  the project  to  a nonprofit                 
  organization.                                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson asked  how appropriations in section  7 will                 
  be spent.  Commissioner Sandor noted that potential projects                 
  will include cabins, toilets, tent platforms, mooring  buoys                 
  and fuel  docks in  the Kodiak  Archipelago.  He  emphasized                 
  that  the  projects will  depend  on  land acquired  by  the                 
  federal/state trustees with settlement funds.                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson asked  if section  11 will fund  subsistence                 
  use or small  capital projects.  Commissioner  Rosier stated                 
  that  section   11  will  aid   restoration  of  subsistence                 
  activities.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Representative  Navarre  asked how  section  6  will restore                 
  sport  fish  diminished  by  the  Exxon  Valdez  oil  spill.                 
  Commissioner Rosier stressed  that red salmon stocks  on the                 
  Kenai  River  were  severely  depleted.   He  asserted  that                 
  funding of the  Fort Richardson  Hatchery will divert  sport                 
  fishermen to other sport fish areas.                                         
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  provided  members  with  AMENDMENT  4                 
  (Attachment 6).     She  explained  that Amendment  4  would                 
  delete section  7 and  replace it  with land acquisition  on                 
  Afognak Island.                                                              
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 93-112, Side 2)                                            
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE CLIFF DAVIDSON spoke in  support of Amendment                 
  4.    Mayor Selby  spoke  in  support of  Amendment  4.   He                 
  emphasized  the need to recover habitat  vital to the area's                 
  economic development.  He stressed that the land in question                 
  contains critical red salmon streams.  Other species damaged                 
  by the spill are located on Afognak Island.                                  
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson asked  Mayor Selby  to prioritize  projects.                 
  Mayor Selby listed projects in priority.                                     
                                                                               
       *    1st - Fully fund Fishery Technology Center at $7.5                 
                                                                               
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            million dollars;                                                   
                                                                               
       *    2nd - Acquisition of weir sites;                                   
                                                                               
       *    3rd - Afognak Island land acquisition.                             
                                                                               
  Representative   Grussendorf   spoke  in   support   of  the                 
  amendment.     He  felt  the  amendment  supported  economic                 
  development over investment in recreation uses.                              
                                                                               
  Representative Brown WITHDREW HER AMENDMENT.  Representative                 
  Brown MOVED to delete section 7 and add $4.5 million dollars                 
  to  page 4,  line  6, section  10.   She explained  that the                 
  amendment would fully  fund the  Fishery Technology  Center.                 
  Attorney General  Cole emphasized that the Governor supports                 
  section 7 funding  for recreational  uses.   He pointed  out                 
  that the civil settlement can be  used to fund projects.  He                 
  suggested  that priority be given to projects that cannot be                 
  funded from  the civil  settlement.   Representative Hoffman                 
  expressed support for the amendment.                                         
                                                                               
  House Bill 269 was HELD in Committee.                                        
  HOUSE BILL NO. 167                                                           
                                                                               
       "An  Act  relating  to  air  quality  control  and  the                 
       prevention,  abatement, and  control of  air pollution;                 
       relating to civil and criminal  penalties, damages, and                 
       other remedies  for  air  quality  control  violations;                 
       clarifying the  definition of `hazardous  substance' to                 
       include  releases  and   threatened  releases  to   the                 
       atmosphere; amending  the lien  provisions relating  to                 
       the oil and hazardous  substance release response fund;                 
       relating  to inspection  and enforcement powers  of the                 
       Department of Environmental Conservation; and providing                 
       for an effective date."                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Hanley  MOVED  to  RESCIND  the  Committee's                 
  action  in reporting CSHB  167 (FIN) from  Committee.  There                 
  being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                       
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley MOVED  to delete "monthly" and  insert                 
  "periodically" on page  29, page  37.  Representative  Brown                 
  clarified that the intent  is not that the APUC  develop new                 
  procedures  for monthly recovery.  She observed that not all                 
  utilities recover monthly.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was                 
  so ordered.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Representative Hanley MOVED to report CSHB 167 (FIN) out  of                 
  Committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  with  the                 
  accompanying fiscal notes.                                                   
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  CSHB 167  (FIN) was  reported out  of Committee  with a  "do                 
  pass" recommendation  and with a  fiscal impact note  by the                 
  Department of  Environmental Conservation and with  a fiscal                 
  impact note by the Department of Law.                                        
  HOUSE BILL NO. 269                                                           
                                                                               
       "An Act  making special appropriations  for restoration                 
       projects relating to the Exxon Valdez oil spill and for                 
       oil  spill  response  projects; and  providing  for  an                 
       effective date."                                                        
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Larson noted  that a motion  to amend was  pending.                 
  He  restated  the motion:   Delete  section  7 and  add $4.5                 
  million dollars to page 4, line 6, section 10.  A  roll call                 
  vote was taken on the motion.                                                
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman                                        
  OPPOSED:  Hanley, Parnell, Therriault, MacLean, Larson                       
                                                                               
  Representatives Navarre, Foster and Martin  were not present                 
  for the vote.                                                                
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (3-5).                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Brown MOVED to  ADOPT AMENDMENT 5 (Attachment                 
  7).  Representative  Hanley OBJECTED.   Representative Brown                 
  noted that Amendment 5 would reduce section 12 by $1 million                 
  dollars and insert  a new section to  appropriate $1 million                 
  dollars for weir site acquisition.                                           
                                                                               
  MEAD   TREADWELL,   DEPUTY   COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT   OF                 
  ENVIRONMENTAL  CONSERVATION  stated   that  the   Department                 
  opposes the amendment.   He explained  that section 12  will                 
  provide  funding  for  research  programs  directed  to  the                 
  prevention,  cleanup  and  containment of  oil  spills.   He                 
  reiterated  that  funding for  the  weirs could  be obtained                 
  through the civil settlement.                                                
                                                                               
  Representative  Grussendorf  expressed   support  for   weir                 
  funding.  He suggested that the funding source be moved from                 
  section 12 to section 7.                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Brown MOVED  to AMEND  AMENDMENT 5 to  reduce                 
  section 7 by $1 million dollars and  insert a new section to                 
  appropriate $1 million dollars for weir site acquisition.                    
                                                                               
  Representative  Davidson emphasized that the weir sites will                 
  help to manage  the resource.   Mayor Selby stated that  the                 
  weir sites are  needed to  assess escapement.   Commissioner                 
  Rosier acknowledged that  the weir sites are  need to assess                 
  red salmon returns.                                                          
                                                                               
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  Co-Chair Larson reiterated the motion to reduce section 7 by                 
  $1 million dollars and insert  a new section to  appropriate                 
  $1   million    dollars   for    weir   site    acquisition.                 
  Representative Therriault OBJECTED.   A  roll call vote  was                 
  taken on the motion.                                                         
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR: Brown, Grussendorf, Hoffman                                        
  OPPOSED:  Foster, Martin, MacLean, Larson                                    
                                                                               
  Representatives Navarre, Hanley and Parnell were not present                 
  for the vote.                                                                
                                                                               
  The MOTION FAILED (3-4).                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  MOVED  to  delete  section 13.  $15.0                 
  million  dollars for  road  connections  between the  Seward                 
  highway and Port of Wittier.   Representative Brown observed                 
  that feasibility studies have not been completed.  She noted                 
  the lack of  back up  material and the  high project  costs.                 
  Co-Chair Larson clarified  that the  project is expected  to                 
  cost between $30 and $37 million dollars.  Members continued                 
  to discuss project priority and funding for weir sites.                      
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 93-113, Side 1)                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Larson provided  members with the  Whittier Access                 
  Study (Attachment 8).                                                        
                                                                               
  Representative Brown expressed her intent  to move to delete                 
  section  4.   Representative  Brown  WITHDREW HER  MOTION to                 
  delete section  13.   Representative Brown  MOVED to  delete                 
  section  4,  $500.0 thousand  dollars  for the  Kachemak Bay                 
  visitors center and related facilities.                                      
                                                                               
  NEIL  JOHANNSEN,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  PARKS  AND OUTDOOR                 
  RECREATION, DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL  RESOURCES emphasized that                 
  Kachemak Bay State Park was the  first state park created in                 
  Alaska.  He stressed that no investment has been made in the                 
  park.   He stated that the  intent is to use the  park as an                 
  outdoor classroom.                                                           
                                                                               
  Representative   Brown   asked   how  it   would   fit  with                 
  restoration.  Mr.  Johannsen noted that Kachemak  State Park                 
  was damaged by the spill.  He stressed that the project will                 
  replace  lost  value.    Representative  Brown  WITHDREW HER                 
  AMENDMENT.                                                                   
                                                                               
  HB 269 was HELD in Committee.                                                
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  The meeting adjourned at 4:55 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
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