Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

02/14/2023 10:15 AM House ENERGY

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10:16:46 AM Start
10:17:48 AM Presentation(s) Regional Railbelt Coordination
11:19:54 AM Adjourn
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by Brian Hickey, Executive Director
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                              
                       February 14, 2023                                                                                        
                           10:16 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative George Rauscher, Chair                                                                                           
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josiah Patkotak                                                                                                  
Representative Stanley Wright                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S) REGIONAL RAILBELT COORDINATION                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS THAYER, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska Energy Authority                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Made opening comments on the PowerPoint                                                                  
presentation, titled "Modernizing the Railbelt Grid."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN HICKEY, Executive Director                                                                                                
Regional Railbelt Coordination                                                                                                  
Alaska Energy Authority                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a PowerPoint presentation, titled                                                              
"Modernizing the Railbelt Grid."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:16:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GEORGE  RAUSCHER called  the  House  Special Committee  on                                                             
Energy meeting to  order at 10:16 a.m.   Representatives Carrick,                                                               
Schrage, Prax,  McKay, and Rauscher  were present at the  call to                                                               
order.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S) REGIONAL RAILBELT COORDINATION                                                                                 
         PRESENTATION(S) REGIONAL RAILBELT COORDINATION                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
10:17:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be a presentation on regional Railbelt coordination.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:18:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS  THAYER,  Executive   Director,  Alaska  Energy  Authority                                                               
(AEA),  stated  that  there  is  currently  "historic"  alignment                                                               
between  the  Railbelt  utilities  and   AEA.    He  stated  that                                                               
upgrading the transmission  lines on the Railbelt  is a necessary                                                               
step  in  moving  towards  a higher  usage  of  renewable  energy                                                               
sources.  He said that  $166 million has already been contributed                                                               
by the utilities towards upgrading  transmission.  He said that a                                                               
decrease in  price per kilowatt  (kW) on the Railbelt  would also                                                               
benefit rural  Alaska due  to the  power cost  equalization (PCE)                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:22:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN    HICKEY,    Executive   Director,    Regional    Railbelt                                                               
Coordination,   Alaska  Energy   Authority,  gave   a  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation,  titled "Modernizing  the Railbelt  Grid" [hardcopy                                                               
included in  the committee packet].   On slide 3, he  pointed out                                                               
that  as  part of  the  Grid  Modernization and  Resiliency  Plan                                                               
(GMRP),  there  is the  consideration  of  connecting the  Copper                                                               
Valley Electric  Association with the  Railbelt.  He  stated that                                                               
75 percent  of Alaska's population  lives on the  Railbelt, which                                                               
generates 80  percent of  Alaska's electricity.   He  stated that                                                               
the  Railbelt only  has three  single  transmission lines,  which                                                               
results in the transfer of just 10  percent of the peak load.  He                                                               
said that  any time  one of  these transmission  lines is  out of                                                               
service,  the  area served  is  cut  off  from  the rest  of  the                                                               
Railbelt.    In  response  to  a  committee  question  concerning                                                               
lowering  energy costs  on  the Railbelt  in  relation to  energy                                                               
funding  for communities  in rural  Alaska, he  stated that  this                                                               
would be addressed later in the presentation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:28:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY  continued  to  slide  4  and  stated  that  Railbelt                                                               
utilities are aligned on the  challenges facing the Railbelt.  He                                                               
continued to slide 5 and stated  that the utilities, AEA, and the                                                               
Regulatory Commission of Alaska have  created a vision that seeks                                                               
a "collaborative future."  Continuing  to slide 6, he stated that                                                               
the utilities  and regulators have  created a  12-to-15-year plan                                                               
that  will  upgrade  transmission  along  the  Railbelt,  costing                                                               
approximately  $2.9  billion.   He  said  that all  the  proposed                                                               
transmission  lines  would  undergo  the  National  Environmental                                                               
Policy Act  (NEPA) process.   He  said that Phase  1 of  the plan                                                               
would  build transmission  from  Bradley Lake  to Lake  Lorraine,                                                               
including  both a  rebuild of  the  current system  and a  second                                                               
transmission  line.    He  stated  that  rebuilding  the  current                                                               
transmission  lines and  building  a new  system of  transmission                                                               
lines would be necessary for  utilizing new and renewable sources                                                               
of energy generation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:33:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY stated  that he has related to the  U.S. Department of                                                               
Energy (DoE) the  opinion that Alaska's electrical  grid would be                                                               
a good  place to test  decarbonization of  a grid because  of the                                                               
smaller size and subsequent cost.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY continued  to slide  7  and slide  8, expressing  the                                                               
opinion  that  the  transmission  project  is  important  because                                                               
Alaska  currently lacks  reliability in  its transmission  lines.                                                               
He  explained  that  the  amount  of  natural  gas  available  is                                                               
decreasing and  the Railbelt  needs to look  at other  sources of                                                               
energy generation,  which requires improvements  in transmission.                                                               
He  advised  that the  improvements  in  transmission and  energy                                                               
storage  will increase  efficiency and  lower energy  costs.   He                                                               
said  the PCE  program  is tied  to  the cost  of  energy on  the                                                               
Railbelt,  and that  lowering costs  on the  Railbelt allows  for                                                               
more money to be contributed toward PCE.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:34:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked if the transmission  project plan took                                                               
the possibility  of a natural  gas pipeline from the  North Slope                                                               
into account.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY answered  that  transmission  upgrades are  necessary                                                               
regardless of the  source of energy.  In response  to a follow-up                                                               
question,  he   stated  that  the   location  and  cost   of  the                                                               
transmission was being considered.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX expressed  his concern  that decarbonization                                                               
would be  shifting the dependence on  hydrocarbons for dependence                                                               
on the minerals needed for renewable energy storage.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:37:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER  asked about the  possibility of buying  10 micro-                                                               
nuclear  reactors as  opposed  to more  transmission  lines.   He                                                               
opined  whether this  would  have a  greater  impact on  reducing                                                               
rates.  He acknowledged that this plan is very unlikely.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY answered  that for  the economy  of scale  to support                                                               
such  an  action,  it  would require  the  participation  of  all                                                               
Railbelt utilities.   He  added that enacting  such a  plan would                                                               
still require the  transmission lines to be  upgraded because the                                                               
utilities would need to be  connected when the reactors were down                                                               
for maintenance.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:40:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY continued  with  slide 8,  noting  that the  Railbelt                                                               
serves  critical  infrastructure,   including:  the  Ted  Stevens                                                               
Anchorage  International Airport,  which  is  the fourth  busiest                                                               
cargo airport in  the world; five military bases;  mines for rare                                                               
Earth minerals; and a federally designated strategic seaport.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY moved  to slide  9 and  gave the  background for  the                                                               
current transmission line proposals.   He said that Governor Mike                                                               
Dunleavy "challenged" the Railbelt utilities  and AEA to create a                                                               
plan to  serve the future  of the Railbelt.   He noted  that with                                                               
the passage  of the federal Bipartisan  Infrastructure Law, there                                                               
is increased opportunity  for federal funding to  aid in building                                                               
new transmission.   He  said that GMRP  was developed  to improve                                                               
the  economy of  scale and  give the  Railbelt opportunities  for                                                               
energy source  diversification.  He suggested  that an additional                                                               
effect would be a reduction in electrical rates.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:42:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY  continued to  slide  10,  displaying a  map  showing                                                               
Railbelt transmission  and battery  energy storage  systems along                                                               
the  Railbelt.    He  showed  the  placement  of  existing  lines                                                               
compared to  the lines being  proposed.   He pointed out  the new                                                               
line going from  Soldotna to Healy and the line  tying the Copper                                                               
Valley  electric  system  to  the Railbelt.    He  mentioned  the                                                               
possibility  of another  potential hydroelectric  project roughly                                                               
the size  of Bradley Lake  called the  Tiekel River Project.   In                                                               
response to a  committee question, he stated that  there would be                                                               
new transmission lines going through Anchorage.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY continued  that there is a new  energy storage battery                                                               
in Soldotna,  with plans to  add one in Anchorage  and Fairbanks.                                                               
On  slide  11,  he  gave  the  three  opportunities  for  federal                                                               
funding: grid  resilience, smart grid,  and grid innovation.   He                                                               
noted that  a third application was  put in by the  state, as the                                                               
eligible entity.  He stated  that the first two applications were                                                               
put in by the Matanuska Electric  Association (MEA).  He moved to                                                               
slide 12 and  pointed out that the state must  be involved in the                                                               
plan,  as  without   funding  from  the  state   there  would  be                                                               
significant rate  increases.  He  advised that  receiving federal                                                               
funding  would require  the same  amount of  investment from  the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY stated  that the federal government  has moved forward                                                               
with AEA's  applications on grid  resiliency and the  smart grid,                                                               
as seen on  slide 13.  He explained that  out of 144 applications                                                               
moving forward  on the  first topic, 10  grants will  be awarded,                                                               
and out of 157 applications on  the second topic, 25 to 40 grants                                                               
will be  awarded.   He said  that the state  is still  waiting to                                                               
hear back on  the third topic, grid innovation.   On slide 14, he                                                               
said that  the applications for  federal funding are part  of the                                                               
first funding cycle in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:51:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked if it  was "worth the risk" to complete                                                               
parts of  the project individually  without knowing if  the state                                                               
would receive federal grants for the other applications.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY answered  that in accepting this as  the state's plan,                                                               
the answer would be yes.  He  opined that the project needs to be                                                               
completed "either way."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  commented that the effects  of not receiving                                                               
federal funding could be increased  taxes and less state money to                                                               
fund other  areas.   He warned that  there could  be consequences                                                               
for completing only part of the project.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  responded that each part  of the project has  its own                                                               
benefit.   Upgrades to  the Sterling to  Quartz Creek  line would                                                               
reduce  losses of  energy  produced by  Bradley Lake  by  3 or  4                                                               
percent.  In  response to a follow up question,  he said that the                                                               
math on the projects is part of the NEPA process.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:54:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE  asked how  the  planned  funding of  the                                                               
project would be affected by the proposed spending caps.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY expressed uncertainty.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:56:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  asked if  there was  a priority  list for                                                               
the project  in the  event that the  legislature decided  to fund                                                               
only part of it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY answered  that  part of  the  application process  is                                                               
listing the priorities  within the project, and the  work on this                                                               
is currently  ongoing.  In  response to a follow-up  question, he                                                               
said that Phase  1 of the project would require  $1.26 billion of                                                               
state funding,  which would fund  the transmission  line upgrades                                                               
up to the central region of the Railbelt.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  continued to slide  15 and  said that the  plan would                                                               
create benefits  for rural communities,  and these  benefit plans                                                               
are part of the application process.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:00:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAUSCHER  asked  where  the  data  for  rural  communities                                                               
originates.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY responded  that  the  Regional Railbelt  Coordination                                                               
group  is currently  collecting this  data and  it has  some data                                                               
available from the previous census.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:01:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY skipped to slide 17  and reviewed the timeline for the                                                               
grant selection  process and when  the proposals  were submitted.                                                               
He reiterated  that the Regional Railbelt  Coordination group has                                                               
been invited to apply for the  first two proposals and is waiting                                                               
to hear back  on the third.   He stated that the  amount of money                                                               
for the grants would be  approximately $50 million to $70 million                                                               
for the first proposal, $15  million for the second proposal, and                                                               
$300 million  for the  third proposal.   There  would not  be any                                                               
financial commitments immediately; however,  what was said in the                                                               
application would bind the financial commitments.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:04:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE asked  if it would be  possible to subject                                                               
the  amount  of money  allocated  during  the reward  negotiation                                                               
process to oil revenues.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY answered that the  primary focus is to secure funding,                                                               
if  possible.     He  expressed  the  belief   that  the  federal                                                               
government would  want something more  specific when it  comes to                                                               
the numbers involved.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:06:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK  asked about the increased  energy storage                                                               
needs if more renewable energy is used in the future.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  answered that  there is  more than  one way  to store                                                               
energy,  such  as batteries  and  pond  storage at  hydroelectric                                                               
plants.    He  stated  that grid  stabilization  is  the  current                                                               
priority, as energy used from storage would be quickly used.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:10:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE voiced  his concern that the  speed of the                                                               
process could  make the Railbelt  Reliability Council  (RRC) less                                                               
effective,  and he  asked what  impact  it could  have on  public                                                               
input.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HICKEY  answered that the RRC  should be placed in  charge of                                                               
the plan when it is finished being  set up, but it will take some                                                               
time to reach this point.  He  added that there will be much more                                                               
time for public input when the NEPA process begins.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:15:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAUSCHER  asked when  Alaska would  receive the  funding if                                                               
the state's application were accepted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HICKEY stated  that award  negotiations would  occur in  the                                                               
fall and  winter of  2023, and the  following NEPA  process would                                                               
take between three and five years.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:17:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER reiterated that the  Railbelt is in historic alignment                                                               
with the need to upgrade the transmission system.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:18:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:19:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Energy meeting was adjourned at 11:20 a.m.                                                                 

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Modernizing the Railbelt Grid-House Energy Committee 2-14-23.pdf HENE 2/14/2023 10:15:00 AM