Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

04/24/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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Heard & Held
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 24, 2023                                                                                         
                           8:01 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jamie Allard, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative CJ McCormick                                                                                                     
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 105                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to  parental rights  in  a child's  education;                                                               
relating to access to school  records; relating to sex education,                                                               
human  reproduction  education,  and human  sexuality  education;                                                               
relating  to   school  disciplinary  and  safety   programs;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 106                                                                                                              
"An Act  authorizing lump  sum payments  for certain  teachers as                                                               
retention  and  recruitment  incentives;  and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 111                                                                                                              
"An Act relating  to public school students who are  deaf or have                                                               
a hearing impairment."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 105                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SEX/REPRODUCTION EDUCATION; SCHOOLS                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/08/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/08/23       (H)       EDC, JUD                                                                                               
03/13/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/13/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
03/29/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/29/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/29/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
03/30/23       (H)       EDC AT 5:15 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/30/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/30/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/13/23       (H)       EDC AT 5:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/13/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/13/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/24/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 106                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/08/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/08/23       (H)       EDC, FIN                                                                                               
03/13/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/13/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/12/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/12/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/12/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/24/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 111                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EDUCATION FOR DEAF & HEARING IMPAIRED                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): ALLARD                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
03/13/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/13/23       (H)       HSS, EDC                                                                                               
03/22/23       (H)       HSS REFERRAL REMOVED                                                                                   
03/22/23       (H)       BILL REPRINTED                                                                                         
04/24/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ED MARTIN, representing self                                                                                                    
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 106.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LINDSEY CAUSER, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Jamie Allard                                                                                                     
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   On behalf  of Representative  Allard, prime                                                             
sponsor, presented a PowerPoint, titled "HB  111 - Deaf & Hard of                                                               
Hearing  Children's  Bill  of  Rights"  and  gave  the  sectional                                                               
analysis on HB 111, Version S.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ANDREA SAMUEL, Speech-Language Pathologist                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Provided  invited testimony  on  HB  111,                                                             
Version S.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD SAVILLE, Program Coordinator                                                                                            
Governor's Council on Disabilities and Special Education                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Provided  invited testimony  on  HB  111,                                                             
Version S.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DONALD ENOCH, Special Education Administrator                                                                                   
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  during the hearing on HB
111, Version S.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER BATCHELDER, representing self                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 111.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:01:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  JAMIE  ALLARD  called   the  House  Education  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at  8:01 a.m.   Representatives Prax,                                                               
McCormick, McKay,  Himschoot, Ruffridge, and Allard  were present                                                               
at  the call  to  order.   Representative  Story  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           HB 105-SEX/REPRODUCTION EDUCATION; SCHOOLS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:02:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 105, "An Act relating to  parental rights in a                                                               
child's  education;   relating  to  access  to   school  records;                                                               
relating  to sex  education,  human  reproduction education,  and                                                               
human sexuality  education; relating  to school  disciplinary and                                                               
safety programs; and  providing for an effective  date."  [Public                                                               
testimony was left open from the meeting on 4/13/23.]                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD closed public testimony on HB 105.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:02:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE addressed  the  confusion  on whether  public                                                               
testimony  should  be  left  open, as  his  office  has  received                                                               
multiple accounts of individuals wanting to testify.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  responded  that  the  bill  was  listed  as  "a                                                               
previously heard bill."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:03:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that HB 105 was held over.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          HB 106-TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:03:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 106, "An  Act authorizing lump sum payments for                                                               
certain  teachers as  retention and  recruitment incentives;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:03:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD opened public testimony on HB 106.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:03:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:03 a.m. to 8:08 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:08:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD,  after ascertaining that  there was no  one else                                                               
who wished to  testify, announced that public  testimony would be                                                               
left open on HB 106.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that HB 106 was held over.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[The  committee returned  to HB  106 during  the meeting  at 8:21                                                               
a.m.]                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          HB 111-EDUCATION FOR DEAF & HEARING IMPAIRED                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:09:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  111,  "An Act  relating  to  public  school                                                               
students who are deaf or have a hearing impairment."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:09:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE   moved  to  adopt  the   proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS)  for HB 111, Version  33-LS0504\S, Marx, 4/22/23,                                                               
as a working  document.  There being no objection,  Version S was                                                               
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[HB 111, Version S, was set aside until 8:31 a.m.]                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:10:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:10 a.m. to 8:21 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          HB 106-TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:21:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be a return  to HOUSE BILL NO. 106, "An  Act authorizing lump sum                                                               
payments  for  certain  teachers  as  retention  and  recruitment                                                               
incentives; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:21:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ED MARTIN, representing self, testified  in opposition to HB 106.                                                               
He stated  that money should  be spent with regards  to colleges,                                                               
as Alaska  does not  have an accredited  education course  in the                                                               
state.  He  argued that this is why the  state is having problems                                                               
filling  education   positions.    He  expressed   shock  at  the                                                               
legislature's spending, and  he suggested the bill  should die in                                                               
committee.   He opined that  money should go towards  teachers in                                                               
rural  communities  and  asked  the  committee  to  "honor  their                                                               
oaths."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:23:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD,  after ascertaining that  there was no  one else                                                               
who wished to  testify, announced that public  testimony would be                                                               
left open on HB 106.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:24:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that HB 106 was held over.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:24:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:24 a.m. to 8:31 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          HB 111-EDUCATION FOR DEAF & HEARING IMPAIRED                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:31:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  111,  "An Act  relating  to  public  school                                                               
students who are deaf or have a hearing impairment."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:32:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDSEY CAUSER, Staff, Representative  Jamie Allard, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of Representative Allard,  prime sponsor,                                                               
presented a PowerPoint,  titled "HB 111 - Deaf &  Hard of Hearing                                                               
Children's Bill of  Rights" [hard copy included  in the committee                                                               
packet].   She began with a  summary of the information  shown on                                                               
slide 2, titled "Who Does HB  111 Effect?," which read as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                    WHO DOES HB 111 EFFECT?                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        There are currently 149 deaf or hard of hearing                                                                         
     children in the State of Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     79 Students in Anchorage                                                                                                   
     3 Students in Annette Island                                                                                               
     12 Students in Fairbanks                                                                                                   
     3 Students in Galena                                                                                                       
     3 Students in Juneau                                                                                                       
     9 Students in Kenai Peninsula                                                                                              
     5 Students in Kodiak Island                                                                                                
     14 Students in Mat-Su                                                                                                      
     9 Students in Northwest Arctic                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:33:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAUSER  continued to  slide  3,  titled "What  services  are                                                               
currently being offered?"  She  explained that the services being                                                               
offered are  based on the  district and its  available resources.                                                               
She added that  there is nothing currently  which requires school                                                               
districts  to provide  information about  available resources  to                                                               
students.  She stated that  the proposed legislation would ensure                                                               
that students and  parents are aware of  the resources available,                                                               
and each district  is providing the same resources.   She further                                                               
noted   that  the   school   for  the   deaf   is  currently   in                                                               
administrative code, but not provided in statute.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:34:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAUSER continued  to slide 4, titled "What Does  HB 111 Do?,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                    WHAT DOES HB 111 DO?                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     01. School  District shall provide parent  of child who                                                                    
     is  deaf   or  hard  of  hearing   with  comprehensive,                                                                    
     neutral,   and   unbiased    information   on   hearing                                                                    
     technology,  methods  of  communication,  services  and                                                                    
     programs, and support and  advocacy services offered by                                                                    
     public and private agencies.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     02. Allows  the parent of a  child who is deaf  or hard                                                                    
     of hearing  to choose the method  of communication that                                                                    
     the parent determines is the most appropriate.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     03. Requires school district  to provide services using                                                                    
     the  parent's chosen  method of  communication for  the                                                                    
     child.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     04. School  district shall deliver services  to a child                                                                    
     who is  deaf or  hard of hearing  through professionals                                                                    
     with  training,  experience,   and  background  in  the                                                                    
     chosen  method  of  communication and  shall  inform  a                                                                    
     parent of  a child who is  deaf or heard of  hearing of                                                                    
     the school districts duties and  of the parent's rights                                                                    
     provided.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     05.  Defines the  following terms;  bilingual approach,                                                                    
     cued  speech,  deaf,  hard of  hearing,  listening  and                                                                    
     spoken language, and total communication                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     06. Will  codify the existence of  a centralized school                                                                    
     of the  deaf, moving it  from Admin Code to  Statue for                                                                    
     those that  it is  determined placement at  the program                                                                    
     is  appropriate   for  a  child  who   resides  in  the                                                                    
     district.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAUSER  further explained  that the  proposed bill  would not                                                               
force students  in the state who  are deaf or hard  of hearing to                                                               
go to  school in Anchorage.   Instead, it would  provide services                                                               
for those who want to stay with  family and be in the school they                                                               
are already enrolled in.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:36:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAUSER presented the sectional analysis for HB 111, Version                                                                 
S, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section   1:  amends   AS  14.30.272   by  adding   new                                                                  
     subsections:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     1.   School   district   must   provide   parent   with                                                                    
     comprehensive information regarding,                                                                                       
          a. Hearing technology                                                                                                 
          b. Different methods of communication                                                                                 
          c.   Services  and   programs  designed   to  help                                                                    
     children who are deaf and hard of hearing                                                                                  
          d.  Information on  support and  advocacy services                                                                    
     offered by public and private agencies.                                                                                    
     2.  Parent chooses  the  method  of communication  that                                                                    
     will be the most appropriate for their child.                                                                              
     3.   Services   are    delivered   to   child   through                                                                    
     professionals   with   training,   experience   and   a                                                                    
     background in the chosen method of communication.                                                                          
          d. School  District must  inform parent  of school                                                                    
     districts duties  and the parents rights  under section                                                                    
     c.                                                                                                                         
          e. In this section,                                                                                                   
               1. Definition of "bilingual approach"                                                                            
               2.Definition of "cued speech"                                                                                    
               3.Definition of "deaf"                                                                                           
               4. Definition of "hard of hearing"                                                                               
               5. Definition of "Listening and spoken                                                                           
                  language"                                                                                                     
               6. Definition of "total communication"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2:  amends  AS  14.30.276   by  adding  a  new                                                                  
     subsection  that requires  the department  to establish                                                                    
     and operate  a centralized  program for  students whose                                                                    
     primary  language  is  American Sign  Language  in  the                                                                    
     least  restrictive  environment   for  those  students,                                                                    
     provide residential  services as  part of  the program,                                                                    
     establishes  that a  school  district  may operate  the                                                                    
     program  under   specific  requirements,   and  provide                                                                    
     funding  for  the  students   who  attend  the  program                                                                    
     operated by  a school districted under  this subsection                                                                    
     to that school district.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAUSER added  that the attached fiscal note  shows a one-time                                                               
legal  fee  of  $6,000  to  implement  the  necessary  regulation                                                               
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:39:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 8:39 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:39:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDREA  SAMUEL,  Speech-Language  Pathologist,  provided  invited                                                               
testimony in support  of HB 111, Version S.   She shared that her                                                               
daughter  uses cochlear  implants  to listen  and  talk, and  she                                                               
informed  the committee  that  for  the last  ten  years she  has                                                               
practiced  speech and  language  pathology.   She  said that  she                                                               
helps  individuals  with  communication  disorders  regain  their                                                               
ability to access language; however,  she does not participate in                                                               
the education  of these children.   She continued  that currently                                                               
there is not a universal  means for screening [for hearing loss],                                                               
creating  different  difficulties   for  families  whose  child's                                                               
hearing loss  was not detected at  birth.  She stated  that these                                                               
families need  unbiased counseling  to make  a good  decision for                                                               
their  child;  therefore,  the right  professionals  need  to  be                                                               
available.   She reiterated  her support for  HB 111,  Version S,                                                               
and all things recognized within the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:45:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   PRAX  questioned   who  diagnosed   her  child's                                                               
[hearing] issue.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SAMUEL replied  that in  2008 [Early  Hearing Detection  and                                                               
Intervention]  was mandated  for newborns  in Alaska;  therefore,                                                               
hospitals had screeners  in place, and this is how  she found out                                                               
about her child's  hearing.  Because of the lack  of resources in                                                               
Alaska, she said she was forced to go out of state for help.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  questioned whether she financed  her child's                                                               
care through personal finances, insurance, or other means.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SAMUEL replied,  "All of  the above."   In  response to  the                                                               
concerns about  delays in detection,  she concurred that it  is a                                                               
worry; however, she  noted that most children  have their hearing                                                               
assessed at  birth.  She  added that  late onset of  hearing loss                                                               
would not be caught right away.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:52:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE questioned how  the proposed legislation would                                                               
help any barriers to her child's education.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SAMUEL responded  that  her family  lives  in the  Anchorage                                                               
School District  (ASD), which is  well resourced.  She  said that                                                               
she  would  like  to  see   more  awareness  among  teachers  and                                                               
administrators  in supporting  students with  hearing loss.   She                                                               
added that environmental modifications  are important, as well as                                                               
a well-versed educational audiologist on hand to counsel staff.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:56:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE questioned  whether  more statutory  mandates                                                               
are needed for districts to be able to provide more resources.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SAMUEL replied  yes.   She expressed  the opinion  that when                                                               
districts are not  resourced for a task, they "kick  the can down                                                               
the road."   She opined that  the bill would correct  many issues                                                               
facing the  treatment and education of  hearing-impaired students                                                               
and  their parents.   In  response to  a follow-up  question, she                                                               
expressed the  opinion that the  proposed bill would  provide the                                                               
structure.   She added that the  bill would make clear  to school                                                               
districts that  all options  must be  presented for  helping deaf                                                               
and hearing-impaired students.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:00:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  reiterated that  Version  S  would have  a                                                               
$6,000  fiscal note  for the  Department of  Education and  Early                                                               
Development  (DEED).    She  questioned  whether  districts  need                                                               
resources.   She questioned the Special  Education Service Agency                                                               
(SESA).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SAMUEL  discussed the funding  that would be attached  to the                                                               
bill.   She  acknowledged the  state's current  deficit; however,                                                               
she  stressed the  importance of  the proposed  bill.   She added                                                               
that funding  also comes from  the Individuals  with Disabilities                                                               
Education  Act  (IDEA)  which serves  special  education  (SPED).                                                               
Regardless  of how  much money  the  state has,  she opined,  the                                                               
proposed legislation is the right thing to do.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:03:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAUSER drew  attention to  page 2,  lines 3-7  of the  bill,                                                               
reiterating that  parents would be  able to choose the  method of                                                               
communication most appropriate for their child.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:04:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  argued that  deaf and  hearing-impaired students                                                               
should  be  provided  with  the  same  opportunities  as  hearing                                                               
children.    If  students  choose not  to  attend  a  specialized                                                               
school, they should  be able to go to any  public school of their                                                               
choosing.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:05:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAUSER revisited  the fiscal note and shared  her belief that                                                               
the  increase for  intensive-needs students  and SPED  would fall                                                               
underneath  the  base  student allocation  (BSA);  therefore,  it                                                               
would be a part of the [Foundation Funding Formula] increase.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:05:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT reinforced  her support  for the  bill.                                                               
She  highlighted page  3, line  3.   She  questioned whether  the                                                               
statement "must  provide residential services" would  generate an                                                               
additional fiscal note.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAUSER  expressed the  belief this  was already  addressed in                                                               
the fiscal note but offered to follow up with the committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:06:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY expressed  concern  about  the language  on                                                               
page  3, line  9, and  she questioned  whether the  word "parent"                                                               
should replace the phrase "school district."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD expressed the opinion  that this was addressed in                                                               
the first part of the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:08:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SAMUEL offered closing comments  and said there is funding in                                                               
place   through   federal   law,  adding   that   [the   proposed                                                               
legislation] would not  go above what is already  in federal law.                                                               
She  reiterated  that  the bill  would  inform  school  districts                                                               
concerning deaf and hearing-impaired students.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:09:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  addressed  the school  districts'  funding                                                               
through  IDEA.   She  expressed  the belief  that  many deaf  and                                                               
hearing-impaired  students do  not receive  the "intensive  times                                                               
13"  funds [in  the Foundation  Funding Formula]  because of  the                                                               
required criteria  for intensive-needs  students.   She suggested                                                               
that districts  would struggle to  meet the need and  opined that                                                               
more fiscal monies should be in the bill.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SAMUEL acknowledged  the shortage of individual  aides in the                                                               
districts.  She  explained that some children do not  need a one-                                                               
on-one  aide;   however,  they  need   other  support,   such  as                                                               
environmental support.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY clarified that  the funding which comes with                                                               
a full-time aide is needed in many cases.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SAMUEL  likened students to  bonds, indicating that  an early                                                               
investment  would make  a  difference.   She  suggested that  the                                                               
proposed bill would give students the access they need to learn.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:12:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  related that she  worked with Ms. Samuel  on the                                                               
proposed legislation, and she was  an intricate part.  She opined                                                               
that  no  cost  is  too  high  to  establish  education  for  all                                                               
children,  and she  expressed the  belief that  no child  is less                                                               
important than another.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:13:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  SAVILLE,  Program  Coordinator,  Governor's  Council  on                                                               
Disabilities and  Special Education,  testified in support  of HB
111,  Version S,  and  provided  a summary  of  his  role in  the                                                               
council.   He  noted that  he is  the vice  chair for  the Alaska                                                               
Advisory  Board  for  the  Education  of the  Deaf  and  Hard  of                                                               
Hearing.  He  explained that 17 other states  have passed similar                                                               
legislation, which  is based  on the federal  Bill of  Rights for                                                               
Deaf  and  Hard  of  Hearing Children.    He  reiterated  several                                                               
reasons  to support  the bill,  emphasizing that  it should  be a                                                               
parent's choice.  He added it  would also ensure that families of                                                               
deaf  and  hearing-impaired  children  understand  the  available                                                               
resources.  He  said that the aspirational aspect of  the bill is                                                               
the  deaf and  hearing-impaired children  in the  state would  be                                                               
treated  as equals  and  receive the  needed  support to  fulfill                                                               
their full potential.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:18:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAVILLE  pointed out that  the statewide school for  deaf and                                                               
hearing-impaired is located in Anchorage  and funded through both                                                               
ASD and DEED.   He briefly explained how housing  works for rural                                                               
children.  He noted that he also works with SESA.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:21:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  pointed  out that  some  services  provided                                                               
through ASD  meet some of  the needs; however, he  questioned how                                                               
much is not being met.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAVILLE  replied  that  he   could  not  provide  an  answer                                                               
currently.   He reiterated that  the funding is not  only through                                                               
ASD.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:22:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  questioned whether a larger  fiscal note is                                                               
needed.   In  reference to  the gaps  in services,  she requested                                                               
clarification.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAVILLE stated that there  are staffing shortages everywhere,                                                               
and anything  to promote recruitment  is welcomed.   He expressed                                                               
uncertainty  whether the  specific needs  of children  were being                                                               
met.   He offered to  gather information  and report back  to the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:25:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  reported that  the number  of deaf  and hearing-                                                               
impaired students  in Alaska is 149.   She added that  few people                                                               
know  American  Sign Language  (ASL)  and  pointed out  that  the                                                               
proposed legislation  would allow a  parent to go into  a child's                                                               
classroom and interpret.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:25:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE   referenced  DEED's  Guidance   for  Special                                                               
Education  Personnel and  the section  on teachers  with students                                                               
who  are   visually  impaired   or  deaf.     He   expressed  the                                                               
understanding that  there is an  issue finding teachers  who meet                                                               
the requirements.   He highlighted  page 2,  line 7 of  the bill,                                                               
which  referenced  delivering  services  to  deaf  children,  and                                                               
stated  this  provision  would codify  the  regulation  which  is                                                               
already currently  not being  met.   He asked  what the  state is                                                               
currently doing  for the  149 deaf or  hard of  hearing students,                                                               
and he  further questioned how  the services would be  blended so                                                               
all students' needs are met in one classroom.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:28:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAVILLE expressed  the understanding  that  the language  in                                                               
Section  2 is  no  different than  language  which requires  that                                                               
students  with  disabilities  be in  an  educational  environment                                                               
along with  other students,  which has  been required  by federal                                                               
law  for over  30  years.   He  requested  that  the question  be                                                               
repeated.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE questioned  whether having  a special  school                                                               
specifically  for the  deaf and  hearing-impaired children  would                                                               
fall outside what  [educators] are already asked to  do, which is                                                               
educate students in the environment in which they live.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAVILLE  expressed the belief  that having a school  for deaf                                                               
and hearing-impaired students is  good because it allows families                                                               
to make the choice about what is best for their children.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE asked  how the  state was  doing in  terms of                                                               
following the guidance for special education personnel.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAVILLE replied that he  would look into specifics and report                                                               
back to the committee at a later date.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:32:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY asked  whether the  149 [deaf  and hard  of                                                               
hearing students] fall  under the intensive needs  portion of the                                                               
[Foundation Funding Formula] fully, partially, or not at all.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAVILLE expressed uncertainty  concerning the intensive needs                                                               
portion in the formula.  He deferred to DEED.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:33:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   ALLARD  questioned   whether   passing  the   proposed                                                               
legislation  would  encourage  schools  to  be  more  willing  to                                                               
provide education to deaf or hearing-impaired students.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAVILLE  expressed  the opinion  that  statutes  carry  more                                                               
weight.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:35:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DONALD  ENOCH, Administrator,  Special  Education, Department  of                                                               
Education  and Early  Development,  in response  to the  question                                                               
from  Representative McKay,  explained  that it  is a  district's                                                               
responsibility  to submit  a  student's Individualized  Education                                                               
Plan  (IEP) for  review for  intensive-needs funding.   He  added                                                               
that  students who  require  specialized  instruction because  of                                                               
hearing  and  visual  impairments   are  exempt  from  the  seven                                                               
criteria for  intensive-needs students.   He  added that  a full-                                                               
time  aide  would   be  waived.    He   confirmed  that  students                                                               
considered  deaf  would  still qualify  for  the  intensive-needs                                                               
funding under the category of "deafness."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:37:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT commented  that IEP  "carries a  lot of                                                               
weight"  and  people  are  responsive  to  it;  nonetheless,  she                                                               
suggested that more needs to be done.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:37:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX referred  to  a  previous testifier's  story                                                               
about discovering the  hearing loss of her child  well before the                                                               
child's  involvement  in  the  education  system.    He  said  by                                                               
focusing  only  on the  school  district,  many children  may  be                                                               
missed,  and he  opined that  assessments for  potential problems                                                               
should be done earlier by the Department of Health (DOH).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAVILLE agreed that children  may be missed between birth and                                                               
preschool,  and  he encouraged  a  legislative  solution to  this                                                               
problem.   He  opined that  including this  language in  the bill                                                               
would only have positive results.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:40:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD related  a personal  story about  her daughter's                                                               
hearing  issue,  explaining that  the  discovery  was made  by  a                                                               
school nurse.   She  expressed the opinion  that there  are still                                                               
students  struggling   with  hearing  loss  and   emphasized  the                                                               
importance of addressing it as early as possible.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:41:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT questioned the Child Find program.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENOCH  explained that  Child Find  is a  federal requirement,                                                               
and  all  school districts  must  participate;  however, not  all                                                               
districts participate  the same  way.   He explained  that larger                                                               
districts   participate    monthly   while    smaller   districts                                                               
participate on an as-needed basis.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked what  ages are covered and whether                                                               
hearing  loss in  a  child  would be  detected  in  a Child  Find                                                               
screening.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENOCH replied  that the ages for SPED  services are typically                                                               
children from  3- to 5-years  old, but it  could reach up  to 22-                                                               
year-olds.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:43:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  offered his  understanding that in  order for                                                               
IEP  to qualify  for intensive-needs  funding, the  student would                                                               
need  a  full-time interpreter.    He  referred to  Ms.  Samuel's                                                               
testimony  about the  technology  which allows  children to  have                                                               
education given  in multiple language  formats, as this  does not                                                               
always require an interpreter.   He asked whether individuals who                                                               
do  not need  one-on-one time  would qualify  for intensive-needs                                                               
funding.    He  questioned  whether these  students  would  still                                                               
qualify as deaf or hard of hearing.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENOCH responded  that students who require  an interpreter at                                                               
any  point  during  the day  would  qualify  for  intensive-needs                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  questioned whether a student  who required an                                                               
interpreter only one day of the  week would still qualify for the                                                               
intensive-needs funding.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ENOCH  replied  that   intensive-needs  funding  provides  a                                                               
foundation for  how the  files are reviewed.   He  continued that                                                               
these  intensive-needs reviews  have gone  through many  changes,                                                               
including regulatory changes.  He  said that on the rare occasion                                                               
where a  student requires  an interpreter only  once a  week, the                                                               
district  would be  contacted and  informed of  a waiver  process                                                               
available to them.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE asked  whether a student who  does not require                                                               
an interpreter would qualify for intensive-needs funding.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENOCH said that would be  a district decision.  He added that                                                               
the  state  does not  require  districts  to ask  for  additional                                                               
funding, but  most districts  do.  Based  on criteria  written in                                                               
the regulations, the student would qualify, he said.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE,  per the 149  children identified as  deaf or                                                               
hard  of hearing  in  the state,  asked for  an  estimate of  the                                                               
percentage of  these individuals who qualify  for intensive-needs                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENOCH confirmed  that he could provide the answer  at a later                                                               
date.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:48:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked whether DEED  would know an estimate of                                                               
how many children may be "falling through the cracks."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ENOCH replied  that  is typically  handled  at the  district                                                               
level through  the Child Find  process and referrals.   The issue                                                               
is  making  sure  the  districts  are aware  of  the  Child  Find                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked whether  there have been any complaints                                                               
from parents  concerning school districts not  providing services                                                               
under the current system.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ENOCH confirmed  that he has received a  number of complaints                                                               
from parents who were not  satisfied with services being received                                                               
at   the  school   district  level;   however,  he   offered  his                                                               
understanding that none have been specific to deafness.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX questioned  DEED's  follow-up procedures  to                                                               
complaints.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ENOCH  explained that  in  the  event  of a  complaint,  the                                                               
district   investigates,  and   all   parties   are  spoken   to.                                                               
Afterwards, he  said, a report  is generated for all  levels, and                                                               
if  a  district is  in  default,  a  corrective action  would  be                                                               
issued.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:51:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD opened public testimony on HB 111.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:51:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER BATCHELDER,  representing self,  testified in  support of                                                               
HB 111.   She  clarified that Child  Find and  early intervention                                                               
services exist  under Part C of  IDEA.  She stated  that children                                                               
who are deaf  and hard of hearing are born  with the same ability                                                               
to  acquire language  as any  other child,  and they  deserve the                                                               
same opportunities.   All  families of deaf  and hard  of hearing                                                               
students should  have access  to appropriate  early intervention,                                                               
family education services, and state resources.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:55:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD,  after ascertaining that  there was no  one else                                                               
who wished to  testify, announced that public  testimony would be                                                               
left open on HB 111.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:56:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX   commented  that   he  would   contact  the                                                               
Fairbanks  North  Star Borough  School  District  and obtain  its                                                               
perspective  on  Version  S.     He  opined  that  [the  proposed                                                               
legislature]  was  rushing  the  issue,   and  DOH  needs  to  be                                                               
questioned.     He  suggested that  the  legislature should  move                                                               
slowly and deliberately with the bill.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:58:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAUSER  echoed  Mr.   Saville's  sentiments  about  statutes                                                               
holding more weight.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:58:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that HB 111 was held over.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:59:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 9:59 a.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 111 Letter of Support - Deaf and Hard of Hearing Bill of Rights.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 111
HB 111 LOS A2P2 - Help Me Grow Alaska.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 111
Hope - Support Letter.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB111- Hope - Support Letter
HB111 CS.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 111
Hearing Request - HEC.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB111 Hearing Request
Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB111 Sectional Analysis
Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB111 - Sponsor Statement
HB111 presentation.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 111
HB106 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
HB106 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
HB106- House Education Hearing Request.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
HB0106A.PDF HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
HB0106-Fiscal Note.PDF HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
HB0105A.PDF HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105- House Education Hearing Request 3-8-2023.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105-Fiscal Note.PDF HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
Constituent Emails.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB111 - emails
HB111 testimony - Andrea Samuel.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 111
Public Testimony HB105 - April Packet 24.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
Public Testimony HB105 - April Packet 25.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
Public Testimony HB105 - April Packet 26.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
Public Testimony HB105 - April Packet 27.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
Public Testimony HB105 - April Packet 28.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
Public Testimony HB105 - April Packet 29.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
Public Testimony HB105 - April Packet 30.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
Public Testimony HB105 - April Packet 31.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
Public Testimony HB105 - April Packet 32.pdf HEDC 4/24/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105