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04/21/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:01:04 AM Presentation(s): Future Broadband Projects in Alaska and Impacts to Education
09:10:47 AM HB144
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Alaska and Impacts to Education by Christine
O’Connor, Executive Director, Alaska TeleCom
Association; and Heather Cavanaugh, Vice
President, External Affairs and Corporate
Communications, Alaska Communications Systems,
and Chair, Alaska TeleCom Association Government
Affairs Committee
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 21, 2023                                                                                         
                            8:00 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative CJ McCormick                                                                                                     
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jamie Allard, Co-Chair                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative Cliff Groh                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): FUTURE BROADBAND PROJECTS IN ALASKA AND IMPACTS                                                                
TO EDUCATION                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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HOUSE BILL NO. 144                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to education tax credits; and providing for an                                                                 
effective date by repealing the effective date of secs. 1, 2,                                                                   
and 21, ch. 61, SLA 2014."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 139                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to funding for correspondence study programs."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 144                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: REPEAL EDUCATION TAX CREDITS SUNSET                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) RUFFRIDGE                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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BILL: HB 139                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CORRESPONDENCE STUDY  PROGRAM FUNDING                                                                              
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE O'CONNOR, Executive Director                                                                                          
Alaska Telecom Association                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation, titled                                                               
"Broadband Projects in Alaska: Impacts for Education."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER CAVANAUGH, Vice President                                                                                               
External Affairs and Corporate Communications                                                                                   
Alaska Communications                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation, titled                                                               
"Alaska Fiberoptic Project."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS REITAN, Superintendent                                                                                                    
Craig School District                                                                                                           
Craig, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions on HB 139.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR JEPSEN, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION   STATEMENT:     On  behalf   of  Representative   McKay,                                                          
explained Amendment 8 to HB 139 and answered questions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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8:00:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  JUSTIN RUFFRIDGE  called  the House  Education  Standing                                                            
Committee  meeting   to  order  at  8:00  a.m.     Representatives                                                              
Ruffridge,  Prax, McKay, and  Himschoot were  present at  the call                                                              
to  order.   Representatives McCormick  and Story  arrived as  the                                                              
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):   Future  Broadband   Projects  in  Alaska   and                                                              
Impacts to Education                                                                                                            
PRESENTATION(S): Future Broadband Projects in Alaska and Impacts                                                            
                          to Education                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
8:01:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE announced  that  the first  order of  business                                                              
would  be  the presentations  on  future  broadband  projects  and                                                              
their impacts on education.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:02:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE   O'CONNOR,    Executive   Director,    Alaska   Telecom                                                              
Association  (ATA),  provided a  presentation,  titled  "Broadband                                                              
Projects  in Alaska: Impacts  for Education"  [hard copy  included                                                              
in the  committee packet].   She shared  a brief personal  history                                                              
and a history  of ATA.  She  gave an overview of  the presentation                                                              
and began by  addressing the "massive" amount of  changes over the                                                              
past  six years  in  broadband.   She  pointed  out  that ATA  has                                                              
invested $1.7  billion in capital  expenditures alone.   She moved                                                              
to slide  4 to  show a  2010 map  of the  broadband and  microwave                                                              
capacity  in  Alaska.     She  stated  that  since   2010  federal                                                              
programs,  as listed  on  slide 5,  have affected  the  map.   She                                                              
noted  that  grants  from  the  National   Telecommunications  and                                                              
Information Administration  (NTAI) have  been used in  conjunction                                                              
with  state  and private  funds.    She  stated that  the  federal                                                              
Schools and Libraries  Program (E-Rate) provides a major amount of                                                              
funding for  schools, and it is  a crucial program  for connecting                                                              
schools with  libraries.   She moved  to slide  7 and stated  that                                                              
the  Alaska  School  Broadband  Assistance   Grant  (BAG)  program                                                              
leverages  the federal  E-Rate  funds to  allow  small schools  to                                                              
have  a  broadband  speed  of at  least  25  megabits  per  second                                                              
(Mbps).  She stated  that this program has tripled  the speeds for                                                              
the small  schools, while  the cost  has dropped,  as seen  on the                                                              
graphs on slide 9 and slide 10.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:07:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR addressed  the decrease  in the  cost of  broadband.                                                              
She  discussed  the federal  ReConnect  grant  program  recipients                                                              
along with  their funding  partners, as seen  on slide  11 through                                                              
slide  32.     She  stated  that  these  grants   target  unserved                                                              
locations,  which are  abundant in  Alaska.   The federal  funding                                                              
amounts  to  over  $300 million,  with  companies  matching  these                                                              
funds.  She added that another round  of funds could be expected.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR, moving  through the  slides of  projects funded  by                                                              
ReConnect,  listed the grants  to Alaska  Power and Telephone  for                                                              
Prince of  Wales Island,  Klukwan, and Skagway.   She  stated that                                                              
this includes fiberoptic  cables going to residential  homes.  She                                                              
added  that Anaktuvuk  Pass  and  Point Lay  received  a grant  to                                                              
replace satellite  backhaul.   She noted  the ReConnect  grants to                                                              
Cordova Telecom, which  has helped create new  microwave towers in                                                              
Yakutat and a fiber cable from Cordova to Seward.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR  continued listing  projects that received  ReConnect                                                              
grants, such  as Mukluk  Telephone in  Nome, GCI Aleutians  Island                                                              
Fiber, and  Airraaq Phase II in  Bethel.  She discussed  how fiber                                                              
cable  projects could  deliver any  needed  broadband speed,  with                                                              
gigabit speed  allowing schools  to do  anything.  She  reiterated                                                              
that all these include fiberoptic cables to residential homes.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:11:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR   noted  the   Tanana  Chiefs  Conference   received                                                              
ReConnect funding  for a fiber network in the  Yukon-Koyukuk area.                                                              
She pointed  out the "pretty steep  price tags," as  the distances                                                              
for  cables  are  long  in  Alaska.    She  explained  that  these                                                              
programs  are being  implemented  because the  federal  government                                                              
has committed to broadband for every American.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR  stated  that  the   second  major  federal  funding                                                              
program  is  the Tribal  Broadband  Connectivity  Program  (TBCP),                                                              
with a  total of $3  billion.  She  stated that every  Tribe could                                                              
apply for  $500,000 for usage  and adoption activities,  while the                                                              
remainder  of the  fund of  around  $3 million  is for  deployment                                                              
projects.   She added  that many  of these  projects connect  into                                                              
the  projects  already  funded  by ReConnect.    She  pointed  out                                                              
several  projects that  are receiving  a  TBCP grant,  as seen  on                                                              
slide  22  to  slide  29.   The  projects  include  Bethel  Native                                                              
Corporation   collaborating   with    GCI,   Calista   Corporation                                                              
collaborating   with   Alaska   Fiberoptic   Project,   Choggiung,                                                              
Limited,  collaborating  with  Nushagak  Cooperative,  and  Doyon,                                                              
Limited,  collaborating with  Alaska Communications.   She  stated                                                              
that the  Kenaitze Indian Tribe,  Metlakatla Power and  Light, the                                                              
Native Village of  Port Lions, and Tlingit and Haida  are all also                                                              
receiving  funding.   She discussed  the three  projects that  are                                                              
not funded  by the grants  but have  otherwise continued  to build                                                              
infrastructure.   These  projects are  OTZ Telephone  Cooperative,                                                              
Alcan ONE  - Matanuska Telecom  Association, and  Ketchikan Public                                                              
Utilities.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:17:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR  compared  the broadband  map,  titled  "Middle  Map                                                              
2010"  to the  map, titled  "Middle Map  2023."   She pointed  out                                                              
that many  major gaps  have been  filled in in  just a  few years;                                                              
however, she  advised that  there is more  progress that  needs to                                                              
be  made.   She stated  that the  programs listed  under TBCP  and                                                              
ReConnect will  continue, but there  will also be  federal funding                                                              
from  the Infrastructure  Investment  and Jobs  Act (IIJA),  which                                                              
includes $42 billion  to create grants for broadband.   She stated                                                              
that these  allocations are being  determined under  the Broadband                                                              
Equity  Access   and  Deployment  (BEAD)  Program,   and  Alaska's                                                              
allocation will  be released soon.   She stated that IIJA  has set                                                              
how the  funding  can be spent,  as described  on  slide 35.   She                                                              
stated  that   the  funding  would   first  go  to   unserved  and                                                              
underserved communities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:20:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR  moved  to  slide 37  and  stated  that  the  Alaska                                                              
Broadband Office  is working  on a timeline  set by statute,  with                                                              
many steps  and analyses needed.   She moved to the next  slide to                                                              
conclude the presentation  and reviewed the steps  that would need                                                              
to be taken.   She noted that  in the future, there will  be grant                                                              
opportunities  for  collaboration,   planning  for  the  broadband                                                              
office, permitting  for implementation,  and  the need to  address                                                              
sustainability,  as  once  broadband infrastructure  is  built  it                                                              
will need maintenance.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:22:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX questioned what  Alaskans should  expect from                                                              
this funding.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR replied  that the answers depend on whom  a person is                                                              
and what  he/she is trying to  accomplish.  She  acknowledged that                                                              
a  person  could  not  operate  in  today's  economy  and  systems                                                              
without  a  minimal  amount  of   connectivity.    She  referenced                                                              
education and  how it is improved  by connectivity,  especially in                                                              
remote  areas.   She  noted  that  the infrastructure  cost  is  a                                                              
"sticker  shock."   Comparing the  cost,  she pointed  out that  a                                                              
small community would not be expected to pay for its airport.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCORMICK  reminded the committee of  the expensive                                                              
and limited  Internet available in  rural Alaska.  He  stated that                                                              
the Internet  helps residents participate  in things in  the world                                                              
outside  of  their  small  communities,  with  education  being  a                                                              
critical example.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:26:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    STORY   discussed    how   technology    creates                                                              
opportunities    for    the   teaching    profession,    including                                                              
professional development.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:27:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY  stated that he attended law  school remotely                                                              
through  the  Internet;  therefore, education  in  particular  can                                                              
benefit  tremendously from  this  connection.   He suggested  that                                                              
brick-and-mortar  schools  might   no  longer  be  needed  in  the                                                              
future.     He  questioned  whether   BAG  legislation   has  been                                                              
introduced.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR expressed  uncertainty about whether  BAG legislation                                                              
has been  introduced, but  it has been  discussed.  She  expressed                                                              
the understanding  that the  BAG program started  in 2010  with 10                                                              
Mbps  for an  entire  school,  and now  it  is at  25  Mbps.   She                                                              
commented  that this  is not  enough for  a school,  and the  goal                                                              
should  be  much   higher.    She  stated  that   the  concept  of                                                              
increasing the BAG program to 100 Mbps would make sense.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:30:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  questioned the cost for  every school to                                                              
move from 25 Mbps to 100 Mbps.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR answered  the BAG  program  works alongside  E-Rate,                                                              
which is  counted on a different  fiscal year; therefore,  nothing                                                              
could happen  for the  next year.   She stated  that if  Mbps were                                                              
increased,  it  would  be  an  incremental   increase,  with  $8.3                                                              
million  in the  first year,  and  12.9 million  in the  following                                                              
year.   There is a  phase-in period because  all the  projects are                                                              
not yet  built.  In  response to  a follow-up question  concerning                                                              
the disparity  between urban  and rural  schools, she stated  that                                                              
the  average  speed  in  rural schools  is  34  Mbps  while  urban                                                              
schools  have 736  Mbps, and  she advised  that this  is a  "huge"                                                              
difference.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT,  considering   maintenance,  questioned                                                              
how  this  can  be  done  in  light   of  other  issues  in  rural                                                              
communities, like water and sewers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR  replied that this  question addresses an  issue that                                                              
is being  thought about  constantly.   She stated  that there  are                                                              
already  opportunities and  mechanisms  in place  to help  sustain                                                              
new  broadband networks.    She  mentioned the  different  funding                                                              
mechanisms, and she  added that the grants are  not awarded unless                                                              
sustainability is shown.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  expressed  the understanding  that  the                                                              
BAG program  is state funded, and  it would help schools  obtain a                                                              
higher  internet speed.   She questioned  whether  the 25 Mbps  on                                                              
BAG needs to be changed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR stated  that when functionality is  analyzed, 25 Mbps                                                              
is limited.   Increasing to 100  Mbps would allow schools  to have                                                              
online testing  and videos.  She  continued that with BAG  only 25                                                              
Mbps is available.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HIMSCHOOT  commented   that  some  teachers   are                                                              
successful  utilizing the  Internet, while  others are  not.   She                                                              
expressed  the opinion  that  there are  limits  in providing  all                                                              
education through  the Internet, as there is a  connection between                                                              
physically  present individuals.   She  questioned the  telehealth                                                              
component in all of this.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR stated  that telehealth is just as  big as education,                                                              
and there  are parallel federal  programs supporting  rural health                                                              
care.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:36:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCORMICK expressed  appreciation that  the public                                                              
safety  component of  connectivity  was mentioned.   He  expressed                                                              
the  understanding   that  some  rural  communities   are  getting                                                              
fiberoptics  before  urban  areas.   He  questioned  whether  this                                                              
would translate to less expensive prices for rural areas.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR  responded that this is  a critical issue.   She said                                                              
that  it   is  a  "chicken  and   an  egg"  issue,   as  broadband                                                              
infrastructure  must be  built, but  it has to  be affordable  and                                                              
sustainable.   She stated  that IIJA  has many provisions  dealing                                                              
with  affordability,   and   many  of  the   grant  programs   are                                                              
committing to  Anchorage rates in  rural Alaska.  She  stated that                                                              
the trend is  - the more the  network is built out the  more costs                                                              
have dropped.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:38:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  questioned the  relationship between  internet                                                              
speed  and bandwidth.   He  questioned whether  broadband will  be                                                              
big enough  for the amount  needed and whether  there is a  cap on                                                              
the amount of data.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR responded  that most  of these  projects use  fiber.                                                              
She compared  fiber cable  to a  firehose as  opposed to  a garden                                                              
hose, with virtually  unlimited capacity.  She stated  that all of                                                              
the projects  would alleviate  any limit,  while the capacity  for                                                              
data  is limited  by  the  specific  grant requirement,  and  this                                                              
depends  on  the  project.    She   acknowledged  that  some  data                                                              
packages are  unlimited.   She continued that  the issue  leads to                                                              
balancing cost  with affordability and  usage needed, and  this is                                                              
a  complex  matrix.     In  response  to  a   question  concerning                                                              
legislation  on  data  capping,  she  stated  that  after  looking                                                              
further  into the  BAG program,  she would  provide the  committee                                                              
with an answer on this.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:40:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  questioned the  cost per month  of broadband                                                              
for the Anchorage area versus the rural areas.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR  responded that  this varies by  region.   She stated                                                              
that in  the Matanuska-Susitna  Valley a  very fast package  costs                                                              
under $100, whereas  in some of the rural areas a  25 Mbps package                                                              
costs  $300.   In response  to a  follow-up  question, she  stated                                                              
that  there are  pockets around  Anchorage and  Fairbanks with  no                                                              
service.  She  stated that the Alaska Broadband  Office is working                                                              
on this.   She  responded that  there are  grants to families  for                                                              
broadband   services,   including  the   Affordable   Connectivity                                                              
Program, which is  part of IIJA.  She stated that  this could save                                                              
a family up to $75 a month.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:44:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    MCCORMICK    questioned    the    sustainability                                                              
requirements.  He  expressed concern that this could  be a barrier                                                              
for some communities to receive funding.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR  replied  that  the broadband  providers  are  in  a                                                              
little better  position than other  utilities, as  these providers                                                              
have  been  participating  in sustainability  for  decades.    She                                                              
mentioned programs  that have  this function  that are  already in                                                              
place.  She stated  that the connections have  a 30-year estimated                                                              
lifespan, but  some engineers  are now putting  this at  a 50-year                                                              
lifespan.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:46:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNOR,  in  response to  a  question  from  Representative                                                              
Himschoot, stated  that the residential locations  are called "the                                                              
last mile,"  and the  same provider  who brings  broadband  to the                                                              
community from the "middle mile" reaches these locations.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:48:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:48 a.m. to 8:50 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:50:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER   CAVANAUGH,   Vice  President,   External   Affairs   and                                                              
Corporate  Communications,   Alaska  Communications,   provided  a                                                              
presentation,  titled  "Alaska  Fiberoptic   Project"  [hard  copy                                                              
included in  the committee  packet].  On  slide 1 she  pointed out                                                              
the  list of  the  project's partners.    She  stated that  Alaska                                                              
Communications is  a statewide broadband provider  serving some of                                                              
the school  districts.  The goal  of the fiberoptic project  is to                                                              
provide   reliable,  affordable,   high-speed   broadband  in   20                                                              
unserved  communities along  the  Yukon and  Kuskokwim Rivers,  as                                                              
seen on  slide 2.   She  moved to  slide 3 through  slide 7  which                                                              
showed maps  for the  project.   She stated  that there  are three                                                              
segments  of the project,  which  starts in Holy  Cross, moves  to                                                              
the Kuskokwim  River, past  Bethel to Napakiak.   She  stated that                                                              
segment  1 is  in partnership  with Doyon,  Limited, fully  funded                                                              
through a NTAI grant,  and in the permitting stage.   Segment 2 is                                                              
in  partnership  with Tanana  Chiefs  Conference  and  Gana-A'Yoo,                                                              
Limited,  and it  is in  the grant  application stage;  therefore,                                                              
not yet  funded.   Segment 3  is in partnership  with the  Calista                                                              
Corporation, and  it is in the  permitting stage.  She  added that                                                              
middle  mile and  last mile  fiber cable  will be  brought to  the                                                              
communities,  and this  includes  each home,  providing  unlimited                                                              
and available Internet everywhere.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAVANAUGH  stated that Alaska  Communications is  committed to                                                              
affordability,  providing the  same  rates to  every community  as                                                              
provided  in   Anchorage  and  Fairbanks.     She   discussed  the                                                              
Affordable   Connectivity   Program,  which   provides   unlimited                                                              
service at $75  a month.  She  moved to slide 10, which  shows the                                                              
timeline  for the project.   If  everything goes  as planned,  she                                                              
said, the project should be complete in the winter of 2025.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:54:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAVANAUGH,  in response to  a committee question,  stated that                                                              
in  this region  along  the  Yukon  and Kuskokwim  Rivers,  Alaska                                                              
Communications does  not serve many  of the schools.   In response                                                              
to a follow-up  question, she stated that another  provider serves                                                              
the schools.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:55:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   RUFFRIDGE,  referring   to  affordability,   questioned                                                              
whether other  providers are  making the  same affordable  deal as                                                              
Alaska Communications.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAVANAUGH  responded that  she could only  speak to  the plans                                                              
offered  by Alaska  Communications.   She added  that NTAI  grants                                                              
allow these  plans to  be affordable  because this funding  covers                                                              
the  capital  cost  of  the infrastructure.    In  response  to  a                                                              
follow-up  question, she  stated that  Alaska Communications  does                                                              
not cap data, and it has always offered unlimited Internet.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:56:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY questioned  why the  BAG programs have  data                                                              
caps.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAVANAUGH  replied that the data  caps she referenced  are for                                                              
home internet usage.   She stated that when  Alaska Communications                                                              
serves  school  districts,  it provides  the  internet  speed  the                                                              
district asks  for, and this depends  on whether the  district has                                                              
fiber.   She continued that this  becomes a struggle  when content                                                              
is brought from  the Lower 48, and with limited  capacity, this is                                                              
very  expensive  and not  feasible  to  do  unlimited data.    She                                                              
stated that this is still evolving over time.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:58:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  questioned whether  the Internet  could "live"                                                              
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAVANAUGH responded  that in reference to the  Internet living                                                              
in the  Lower 48, this  is an  oversimplification.  She  continued                                                              
that the  Internet could  be based  in Alaska;  however, it  would                                                              
have  to  be  "hauled"  to Alaska.    She  further  explained  the                                                              
complexity of internet servers and the technology.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE   commented  on   the  amount  of   money  and                                                              
infrastructure  coming to  Alaska.   He  questioned whether  there                                                              
are any plans to have "the Internet live in Alaska."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'CONNER responded  that there  has been  discussion on  this                                                              
topic.   She  stated  that  for IIJA  to  fund this,  the  statute                                                              
requires  the  unserved  and  underserved   to  be  supplied  with                                                              
Internet first.   She expressed the opinion that  doing more would                                                              
not fit this funding.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:01:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAVANAUGH, in  response to a committee question,  replied that                                                              
the fiber  cable has a  very long lifespan,  up to 50 years.   She                                                              
stated  that  the  electronics  often  need  to  be  replaced  and                                                              
maintained.   She stated  that what makes  this affordable  is the                                                              
federal and state funding.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:02:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  addressed the urban  areas that do  not have                                                              
Internet.   She questioned how the  committee could be  updated on                                                              
these areas.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'CONNOR  replied that  the Alaska  Broadband Office  would be                                                              
able to provide  these updates.   She stated that the  director is                                                              
working on  this problem, as  it is a  priority.  She  pointed out                                                              
that  an eligible  area will  have  less than  80 percent  served.                                                              
She suggested that changing the map could address this.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:04:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:04 a.m. to 9:10 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           HB 144-REPEAL EDUCATION TAX CREDITS SUNSET                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:10:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE  announced that  the  next order  of  business                                                              
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  144, "An Act  relating to  education tax                                                              
credits;  and providing  for an  effective date  by repealing  the                                                              
effective date of secs. 1, 2, and 21, ch. 61, SLA 2014."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:11:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE opened  public  testimony on  HB  144.   After                                                              
ascertaining  that there  was no  one  who wished  to testify,  he                                                              
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE announced that HB 144 was held over.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:11:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:11 a.m. to 9:13 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           HB 139-CORRESPONDENCE STUDY PROGRAM FUNDING                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:13:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE announced  that  the final  order of  business                                                              
would  be HOUSE  BILL NO.  139, "An  Act relating  to funding  for                                                              
correspondence study  programs."  [During the meeting  on 4/19/23,                                                              
Amendment 2 was moved but did not pass.]                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:13:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT moved to  adopt Amendment  3 to  HB 139,                                                              
labeled, 33-LS0582\B.5, Marx, 4/12/23, which reads as follows:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 8, following "multiplying":                                                                                   
          Insert "(1)"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 9:                                                                                                            
          Delete    "the    special     needs    factor    in                                                               
     AS 14.17.420(a)(1) [90 PERCENT]"                                                                                       
          Insert "90 percent; and                                                                                           
               (2)  the number obtained under (1) of this                                                                   
    subsection    by   the   special    needs   factor    in                                                                
     AS 14.17.420(a)(1)"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE objected.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  referred  to  a  letter  the  committee                                                              
received  in  January from  seven  superintendents  who  requested                                                              
more  equity  for  the  funding   of  special  needs  students  in                                                              
correspondence  schools.  She  stated that  the provisions  in the                                                              
amendment  would affect  about  10 percent  of  all special  needs                                                              
students  served,  whether it  is  an extra  learning  opportunity                                                              
(ELO),   a   gifted   student,   or   a   student   requiring   an                                                              
individualized  education  program (IEP).    She  stated that  the                                                              
request is  for 90 percent plus  the special needs  funding factor                                                              
of 1.2 percent.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:15:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE  maintained   his  objection.    He  expressed                                                              
awareness  of the referenced  letter; however,  he suggested  that                                                              
the  equity  requested   is  already  contained   in  the  current                                                              
iteration of the proposed legislation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:16:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives McCormick,  McKay,                                                              
Himschoot,  and  Story voted  in  favor  of  the motion  to  adopt                                                              
Amendment 3 to  HB 139.  Representatives Prax  and Ruffridge voted                                                              
against it.   Therefore, Amendment 3  was adopted by a  vote of 4-                                                              
2.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:17:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT [moved to  adopt Conceptual  Amendment 7                                                              
to HB  139, as amended],  labeled, 33-LS0582\B.11,  Marx, 4/17/23,                                                              
which reads as follows which read as follows:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, lines 8 - 9:                                                                                                       
          Delete "multiplying the ADM of the correspondence                                                                     
    program    by    the    special    needs    factor    in                                                                
     AS 14.17.420(a)(1) [90 PERCENT]"                                                                                       
          Insert "determining [MULTIPLYING] the ADM of the                                                                  
     correspondence  program reported  under  AS 14.17.500(a)                                                               
     and  14.17.600(a)  and, if  the  correspondence  program                                                               
     meets  the   requirements  of   (b)  of  this   section,                                                               
      multiplying the ADM of the correspondence program by                                                                  
      the special needs factor in AS 14.17.420(a)(1) [BY 90                                                                 
     PERCENT]"                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 9:                                                                                                  
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
       "* Sec. 2. AS 14.17.430 is amended by adding a new                                                                   
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
          (b)  To qualify for the special needs factor                                                                          
     multiplier under (a) of this section, a correspondence                                                                     
     program must                                                                                                               
               (1)  offer gifted and talented education and                                                                     
     English learner services; and                                                                                              
               (2)  file with the department a plan that                                                                        
         indicates the gifted and talented education and                                                                        
        English learner services that gifted and talented                                                                       
     education and English learner students will receive."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  explained that  correspondence  schools                                                              
serve IEP  students, English  learners, and  gifted students,  and                                                              
they need additional  support to meet their standards.   She noted                                                              
that  IEP  students  have  federal  requirements;  however,  these                                                              
other students  with Tier II  support should have  accountability.                                                              
She continued  that Conceptual  Amendment  7 is an  accountability                                                              
amendment, as  it would provide  assurance that the  multiplier is                                                              
used  for its  intended purpose  in correspondence  schools.   The                                                              
amendment would require  a plan of service, similar  to brick-and-                                                              
mortar schools, for English learners and gifted students.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:19:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX expressed  the understanding  that, per  [the                                                              
Foundation  Funding   Formula],  districts  would  receive   a  20                                                              
percent  funding  [factor] for  each  special needs  student,  and                                                              
this would be  multiplied by the number of special  needs students                                                              
in the district.   He questioned the accountability  for any extra                                                              
funds from this.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:23:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  REITAN, Superintendent,  Craig  School District,  responded                                                              
that for students  attending brick-and-mortar schools,  there is a                                                              
1.2 special  needs funding  factor applied to  every student.   He                                                              
stated that  brick-and-mortar schools and correspondence  programs                                                              
are required  to have  IEPs for  gifted students  and service  for                                                              
English language  learners,  regardless of  funding.  In  response                                                              
to a  follow-up question,  he stated  that any  leftover funds  go                                                              
into  the  general fund  for  the  district,  and its  board  will                                                              
allocate the  funds.   He advised that  the special needs  funding                                                              
factor is not a one-to-one correspondence with each student.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE added  that the 1.2 funding factor  does not go                                                              
to a specific student.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  expressed the understanding that  if a school                                                              
has 20  students with special needs,  the school will  receive the                                                              
same amount of funding.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  REITAN  expressed  the  understanding   that  this  would  be                                                              
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX made  the point  that currently  there is  no                                                              
accountability in  districts for whether the funds  are applied to                                                              
the  intended purpose.   He  questioned  why there  should be  any                                                              
additional  requirements  on correspondence  schools.   He  argued                                                              
that currently  the responsibility is  on the parents  of students                                                              
in correspondence schools, and this is a "better system."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:27:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  expressed the  understanding that this  is a                                                              
block grant;  therefore, IEPs would have  to be met, as  this is a                                                              
federal requirement.   She suggested  that these block  grants are                                                              
"eaten up" by  special education students and nothing  is left for                                                              
CTE, as it is  not mandated.  She questioned her  understanding of                                                              
this.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. REITAN,  in response,  stated that  all school districts  have                                                              
access to Title  6B, which includes the federal  grant for special                                                              
education,  as  well as  the  Carl  Perkins  Grant, which  is  CTE                                                              
funding.   He  stated  these block  grants do  not  come close  to                                                              
covering costs  for schools to  run a CTE  program or to  meet the                                                              
needs  of  special   needs  students.    He  continued   that  all                                                              
districts must use  general funds to offset these  costs, and this                                                              
comes through the base student allocation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:30:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  clarified that the gifted and  English learner                                                              
qualifiers are already met by correspondence schools.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. REITAN replied in the affirmative.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:31:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  made the  point that the  delivery model                                                              
for correspondence  schools is different.   If additional  funding                                                              
is   to   be   given,  she   expressed   the   desire   for   more                                                              
accountability.     She  stated  that   this  would  add   a  plan                                                              
specifically made  for correspondence  schools, as the  district's                                                              
plan would  not sufficiently explain  how the money is  being used                                                              
and the students are being supported.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:31:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  expressed agreement that this  is a different                                                              
model;  however,  there  are already  recording  requirements  for                                                              
special needs  funds.   He expressed the  opinion that  whoever is                                                              
delivering the services  should be trusted, as there  is no method                                                              
of accountability  for any entity.   He suggested that  this would                                                              
add a "paperwork burden that nobody will look at."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:33:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY clarified  her  understanding  that now  the                                                              
block grants and  the factor funding is supposed to  go to special                                                              
needs,  CTE, and  gifted students,  and the  amendment would  make                                                              
this the same for correspondence programs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  REITAN responded  that his  understanding  of "block  grants"                                                              
means title grants  and federal dollars.  He stated  that specific                                                              
plans need to be  made to receive these funds, and  the plans must                                                              
be approved  at the  department level.   Regarding the  1.2 factor                                                              
for  gifted, English  learners,  and  special needs  students,  he                                                              
said that  all correspondence  schools are  required to  develop a                                                              
student learning  plan in  collaboration with  the parent  and the                                                              
teacher, and  if appropriate, a  special education teacher.   This                                                              
plan drives  the program  for the student  and all the  curriculum                                                              
purchases.   For  correspondence  programs, many  students have  a                                                              
robust plan, so some of this is already built in.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  confirmed she was using the  incorrect term,                                                              
"block grant,"  and she should have  used the term  "special needs                                                              
factor"  instead.    She  questioned   whether  the  amendment  is                                                              
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  REITAN replied  that he  concurs  with Representative  Prax's                                                              
interpretation,  and  no additional  accountability  measures  are                                                              
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:37:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE maintained his objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:37:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:37 a.m. to 9:38 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:38:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll   call  vote  was   taken.    Representatives   McCormick,                                                              
Himschoot, and Story  voted in favor of Conceptual  Amendment 7 to                                                              
HB 139,  as amended.  Representatives  Prax, McKay,  and Ruffridge                                                              
voted against it.   Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 7  failed by a                                                              
vote of 3-3.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:38:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:38 a.m. to 9:44 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:44:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY moved to adopt Amendment 8 to HB 139, as                                                                   
amended, labeled, 33-LS0582\B.12, Marx, 4/14/23, which reads as                                                                 
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1:                                                                                                            
          Delete "funding for"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 2:                                                                                                  
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
        "* Section 1. AS 14.03.310(a) is amended to read:                                                                   
          (a)  Except as provided in (e) of this section,                                                                       
     the   department  or   a   district  that   provides   a                                                                   
     correspondence  study  program  shall [MAY]  provide  an                                                               
     annual student  allotment to a  parent or guardian  of a                                                                   
     student  enrolled in  the correspondence  study  program                                                                   
     for the  purpose of  meeting instructional expenses  for                                                                   
     the  student  enrolled in  the  program as  provided  in                                                                   
     this section."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 3:                                                                                                            
          Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                  
          Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 9:                                                                                                  
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "*  Sec.  3. AS 14.17  is  amended  by adding  a  new                                                               
     section to article 2 to read:                                                                                              
          Sec.    14.17.530.    Minimum    expenditure    for                                                                 
     instruction.  (a) A  district that  provides a  district                                                                 
     correspondence   program,  including  a   district  that                                                                   
     offers a  statewide correspondence study  program, shall                                                                   
     budget  for  and spend  on  the  correspondence  program                                                                   
     component  of the district  budget in  each fiscal  year                                                                   
     an amount  equal to at least  95 percent of  the funding                                                                   
     allocated  to   the  district  for  the   correspondence                                                                   
     program  under AS 14.17.430.  The  district shall  spend                                                                   
     at  least 60  percent  of  the amount  calculated  under                                                                   
     this subsection  on annual  student allotments  required                                                                   
     under AS 14.03.310(a).                                                                                                     
          (b)  The commissioner shall reject a district                                                                         
     budget  that does not  comply with  (a) of this  section                                                                   
     and,  unless a  waiver  has been  granted  by the  board                                                                   
     under (d)  of this section,  shall withhold  payments of                                                                   
     state  aid  from  that  district,   beginning  with  the                                                                   
     payment for  the second full  month after rejection  and                                                                   
     continuing  until  the  school  board  of  the  district                                                                   
     revises the district  budget to comply with  (a) of this                                                                   
     section.                                                                                                                   
          (c)  The commissioner shall review the annual                                                                         
     audit  of   each  district   for  compliance  with   the                                                                   
     expenditure  requirements of  (a) of  this section,  and                                                                   
     calculate the  amount of the deficiency, if  any. If the                                                                   
     commissioner  determines that a  district does not  meet                                                                   
     those  requirements, the commissioner  shall advise  the                                                                   
     district  of the  determination and  deduct that  amount                                                                   
     from  state aid  paid to  the district  for the  current                                                                   
     fiscal  year. A deduction  in state  aid required  under                                                                   
     this subsection  begins with the payment for  the second                                                                   
     full  month after  the  determination,  unless a  waiver                                                                   
     has  been  granted  by  the  board  under  (d)  of  this                                                                   
     section.                                                                                                                   
          (d)  A district that the commissioner determines                                                                      
     to be  out of compliance  with the requirements  of this                                                                   
     section  may, within  20 days  after the  commissioner's                                                                   
     determination,  request  from the  board  a waiver  from                                                                   
     the  imposition by the  commissioner  of a deduction  in                                                                   
     state  aid payments under  (b) or  (c) of this  section.                                                                   
     The  request must  be  in writing  and  must provide  an                                                                   
     explanation  of the  reasons for which  the district  is                                                                   
     unable  to   comply  with   the  requirements  of   this                                                                   
     section. The  district shall also submit the  request to                                                                   
     the  Legislative   Budget  and   Audit  Committee.   The                                                                   
     Legislative  Budget  and Audit  Committee  shall  review                                                                   
     the district's  request and forward its  recommendations                                                                   
     on the  request to  the board. The  board may grant  the                                                                   
     waiver  if  the board  determines  that  the  district's                                                                   
     failure  to meet  the expenditure  requirements of  this                                                                   
     section is  caused by  circumstances beyond the  control                                                                   
     of the district.                                                                                                           
          (e)  The commissioner shall submit an annual                                                                          
     report  on actions  taken  by  the commissioner  or  the                                                                   
     board under this  section to the Legislative  Budget and                                                                   
     Audit Committee by April 15 of each year.                                                                                  
          (f)  In this section, "correspondence program                                                                         
     component"   means    expenditures   for    a   district                                                                   
     correspondence program."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE objected.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MCKAY  stated  that   the  amendment   would  put                                                              
spending  requirements   on  correspondence  school   funds.    He                                                              
deferred to his chief of staff for discussion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:44:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR  JEPSEN,  Staff,  Representative Tom  McKay,  Alaska  State                                                              
Legislature,   on  behalf  of   Representative  McKay,   explained                                                            
Amendment  8.   He stated  that the  first part  of the  amendment                                                              
would require  95 percent  of correspondence  funding to  be spent                                                              
on the  program.  He  continued that 60  percent of  the remainder                                                              
of these  funds must be  used for student  allotments.   He stated                                                              
that the  remainder of the amendment  outlines the system  for the                                                              
commissioner  to affirm the  policies.   He stated that  currently                                                              
in statute  there is  no spending  requirement  that the funds  be                                                              
spent on correspondence  students or allotments, so  all the funds                                                              
are allocated to  districts based on the number  of correspondence                                                              
students.   He suggested that  there has  been no evidence  of the                                                              
misuse  of funds;  however, putting  this into  statute will  make                                                              
sure  this  trend  continues.    He  expressed  the  opinion  that                                                              
student  allotments   should  be   increased,  and  this   is  the                                                              
underlying spirit of the bill.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEPSEN addressed  the impact of the amendment  and noted that,                                                              
with  the  passing  of Amendment  3,  the  numbers  in  Conceptual                                                              
Amendment 8  are reduced by 10 percent.   He added that  under the                                                              
previous iteration  of the bill, correspondence  students' funding                                                              
would  be  increased  to  $7,142, and  with  this  amendment,  the                                                              
districts  would  have  to  spend   95  percent  of  this  on  the                                                              
correspondence program.   He added  that with the  minimum student                                                              
allotments,  this would be  $4,071.   He stated  that the  rest of                                                              
the  funding  would be  used  for  overhead.    He used  the  IDEA                                                              
correspondence  program as an  example to  show how the  amendment                                                              
would  affect  the current  situation.    He concluded  that  this                                                              
amendment would ensure  the majority of the funds would  go to the                                                              
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:49:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  commented that  the  IDEA program  is  being                                                              
used as  an example,  and this  program has  a set of  challenges;                                                              
however, other programs  would have different challenges,  such as                                                              
different administrative  expenses.  He argued that  the amendment                                                              
would not account  for this.  He expressed the  understanding that                                                              
the  proposed  amendment  would  prevent  correspondence  programs                                                              
from  becoming  bureaucratic;  however,  he  suggested  that  this                                                              
would only  work for urban programs.   He expressed the  fear that                                                              
there would be  unintended consequences, and some  programs may be                                                              
shut down.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:51:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEPSEN responded  that if a program cannot  afford this, there                                                              
is a waiver  system in place.   He stated that he has  reached out                                                              
to  nine   correspondence  programs   and  discovered   that  this                                                              
allotment amount going  to the student is common.   In response to                                                              
a  follow-up question,  he stated  that  the waiver  system is  in                                                              
place, and  this would  help any  new correspondence programs  get                                                              
started.    He  suggested  that  there  would  be  a  process  for                                                              
programs to expand or start anew.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:54:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  requested that  Mr. Reitan speak  to the                                                              
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. REITAN  expressed concern about  elected school  board members                                                              
maintaining  local control  of their  budget.   He suggested  that                                                              
this  would limit  their ability.   He  expressed another  concern                                                              
that  the smaller  correspondence programs  would not  be able  to                                                              
survive  the market,  even  with  the waiver.    He expressed  the                                                              
opinion that with  the proposed amendment, new  programs would not                                                              
be able to start.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT   questioned  Mr.  Jepsen   whether  any                                                              
district is currently  giving more than 60 percent  to the student                                                              
allotment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEPSEN reiterated  that of  the  schools he  spoke with  none                                                              
were giving more.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT expressed  concern  about local  control                                                              
and sought  to confirm that  districts are currently  spending the                                                              
funding  they   receive  for  correspondence  programs   on  these                                                              
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEPSEN replied that this is correct.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:57:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX moved to table Amendment 8.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  objected.    She  expressed  concern  about                                                              
local control; therefore,  tabling the amendment  would not change                                                              
this.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:58:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Prax,  McCormack,                                                              
McKay,  and  Ruffridge voted  in  favor  of  the motion  to  table                                                              
Amendment  8 to HB  139, as  amended.   Representatives Story  and                                                              
Himschoot  voted  against  it.    Therefore, by  a  vote  of  4-2,                                                              
Amendment 8 was tabled.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:59:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  announced that  HB 139,  as amended,  was held                                                              
over.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:59:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further business  before the committee,  the House                                                              
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 9:59 a.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 139 Conceptual amendment 7.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 Conceptual amendment 8.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 amendments 1-6 as of 4.17.23.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 Fiscal Note DEED_K12 Aid to Schools as of 3.29.23.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 Fiscal Note_Fund Capitalization as of 3.29.23.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 presentation.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 Support_Redacted As of 4-18-23.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 144- 2011-2022 Summary Ed Tax Credits.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 144
HB 144- Alaska Stat. _ 43.20.014.PDF HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 144
HB 144- Dept of Revenue Ed Tax credit FAQ.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 144
HB 144- ETC Brochure v2 (PRINT).pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 144
HB 144- Fiscal note DOR as of 4.3.23.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 144
HB 144 Presentation.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 144
HB 144 Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 144
HB 144 Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 144
HB 144- University of Alaska preentation.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 144
HB 148 Conceptual amendment 5.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 Public Testimony_Opposition_Redacted as of 4.18.23.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 Public Testimony_Support_Redacted as of 4.6.23.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB 148 Support_Redacted As of 4-18-23.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 148
HB0139 ver B.PDF HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
4.21.23 AK Fiber Optic Project House Education Committee.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM
4.21.2023 Broadband Projects in Alaska.pdf HEDC 4/21/2023 8:00:00 AM