Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

04/09/2021 08:00 AM EDUCATION

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Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
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Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
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Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 9, 2021                                                                                          
                           8:02 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harriet Drummond, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Andi Story, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Tiffany Zulkosky                                                                                                 
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Ronald Gillham                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Grier Hopkins                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
HOUSE BILL NO. 132                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to  technical  education and  apprenticeships;                                                               
relating to  concurrent vocational  education, training,  and on-                                                               
the-job  trade  experience  programs  for  students  enrolled  in                                                               
public secondary schools; relating  to child labor; and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 108                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to  concurrent vocational  education, training,                                                               
and on-the-job  trade experience  programs for  students enrolled                                                               
in  public  secondary  schools;  relating  to  child  labor;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 19                                                                                                               
"An  Act  relating  to  instruction  in  a  language  other  than                                                               
English;  and  establishing  limited language  immersion  teacher                                                               
certificates."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 132                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SCHOOL APPRENTICESHIP PROGS; TAX CREDITS                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/10/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/10/21       (H)       L&C, EDC, FIN                                                                                          
03/15/21       (H)       L&C AT 6:30 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/15/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/15/21       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/22/21       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/22/21       (H)       Moved CSHB 132(L&C) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/22/21       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/22/21       (H)       L&C AT 6:30 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/22/21       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/25/21       (H)       L&C RPT CS(L&C) NT 5DP 1AM                                                                             
03/25/21       (H)       DP:     SNYDER,    SCHRAGE,     MCCARTY,                                                               
                       SPOHNHOLZ, FIELDS                                                                                        
03/25/21       (H)       AM: NELSON                                                                                             
04/09/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 108                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CONCURRENT SECONDARY & TRADE SCHOOL                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): MCCARTY                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/22/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/22/21       (H)       EDC, L&C, FIN                                                                                          
04/09/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  19                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: LIMITED TEACHER CERTIFICATES; LANGUAGES                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/8/21                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/18/21       (H)       EDC, L&C                                                                                               
04/09/21       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZACK FIELDS                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented CSHB 132(L&C) on behalf of the                                                                 
sponsor, the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee, on                                                                    
which he serves as co-chair.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARI SELLE, Director                                                                                                            
South Central Alaska Health Education Center                                                                                    
Alaska Primary Care Association                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of CSHB 132(L&C).                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEN MCCARTY                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, presented HB 108.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DENEEN TUCK, Staff                                                                                                              
Representative Ken McCarty                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the sectional analysis for HB 108                                                              
on behalf of Representative McCarty, prime sponsor.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BRAD AUSTIN, Apprenticeship Coordinator                                                                                         
Plumbers, Pipefitters & Southeast Mechanical Contractors                                                                        
Apprenticeship Program                                                                                                          
Plumbers and Pipe Fitters Local 262                                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided invited testimony in support of HB
108.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JIM ANDERSON, CFO                                                                                                               
Anchorage School District                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided invited testimony in support of HB
108.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JONATHAN KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, introduced HB 19.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LINDSAY BURKE, Staff                                                                                                            
Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                                         
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented HB 19 on behalf of Representative                                                              
Kreiss-Tomkins, prime sponsor.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REID MAGDANZ                                                                                                                    
Alaska Native Languages Advocate                                                                                                
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided invited  testimony in support of HB
19.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL JOHNSON, Commissioner                                                                                                   
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided invited  testimony in support of HB
19                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:02:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY called  the  House  Education Standing  Committee                                                             
meeting to  order at 8:02  a.m.  Representatives  Drummond, Prax,                                                               
Gillham,  Cronk, and  Story were  present at  the call  to order.                                                               
Representative Zulkosky arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        HB 132-SCHOOL APPRENTICESHIP PROGS; TAX CREDITS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:03:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 132,  "An Act relating to  technical education                                                               
and   apprenticeships;   relating    to   concurrent   vocational                                                               
education,  training, and  on-the-job  trade experience  programs                                                               
for students  enrolled in public  secondary schools;  relating to                                                               
child labor; and  providing for an effective date."   [Before the                                                               
committee was CSHB 123(L&C)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:03:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZACH  FIELDS, Alaska State  Legislature, presented                                                               
CSHB  132(L&C) on  behalf of  the  sponsor, the  House Labor  and                                                               
Commerce Standing Committee, on which  he serves as co-chair.  He                                                               
stated that  apprenticeships are part  of a larger  ecosystem and                                                               
shared that  the goal of  the proposed legislation was  to expand                                                               
apprenticeship  and  school-to-apprenticeship linkages,  so  more                                                               
Alaska youth can  enter living wage careers  that have nationally                                                               
recognized post-secondary  credentials, including  college credit                                                               
and apprenticeship.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS shared  that  Alaska  has high  performing                                                               
apprenticeship programs  in the traditional building  trades, and                                                               
recent  innovation with  apprenticeship  in new  industries.   He                                                               
opined that  Alaska has fantastic career  and technical education                                                               
(CTE) programs  in its school  districts, including  some school-                                                               
to-apprenticeship  linkage  programs.    He  explained  that  the                                                               
school-to-apprenticeship  programs' volume  is not  sufficient to                                                               
meet demand.   In the  last 10 years, he  said, there has  been a                                                               
focus  across   party  lines   and  through   administrations  on                                                               
expanding   apprenticeship  and   CTE  with   support  from   the                                                               
congressional delegation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS argued that  expansion of CTE helps "people                                                               
pull themselves up  by their bootstraps" and  avoid college debt.                                                               
He shared  that he is from  a poor family and  opined that people                                                               
shouldn't have to choose between  postsecondary credentials and a                                                               
career.   He stated that some  people cannot afford not  to work,                                                               
need  to   have  a  job,   and  they  must  complete   either  an                                                               
apprenticeship program, college credit, or ideally both.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  noted  that   Alaska  is  in  a  fiscally                                                               
constrained  position, but  federal resources  for apprenticeship                                                               
are  expanding.     He  shared  that  Alaska   is  completing  an                                                               
application  for State  Apprenticeship  Expansion and  Innovation                                                               
(SAEI) grants,  and CSHB  132(L&C) would put  policy in  place to                                                               
capitalize on the federal investment.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:06:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  said   CSHB  132(L&C)  would  incentivize                                                               
employer participation with $1,000  per apprentice in an employer                                                               
tax credit.  He  shared that this is based on  a model from South                                                               
Carolina, where  it was found  that apprenticeship can  be scaled                                                               
up by incentivizing employer participation  and linking it to the                                                               
school system.   He  commented that  the legislature  could learn                                                               
from  that model  and  expand  apprenticeship beyond  traditional                                                               
building trades.   He noted  that there  was a $1,500  credit for                                                               
veterans entering apprenticeship.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  explained  that  the  second  thing  CSHB
132(L&C)  would  do  is  direct   the  Department  of  Labor  and                                                               
Workforce Development (DLWD) and  the Department of Education and                                                               
Early  Development   (DEED)  to  collaborate  in   technical  and                                                               
financial support  for school apprenticeship, science,  math, and                                                               
engineering  CTE programs.    He noted  that  DLWD has  supported                                                               
apprenticeship  for  a long  time,  and  cited examples  back  to                                                               
Governor  Frank Murkowski  and  also nodded  to  work by  Senator                                                               
Click Bishop  from his time  as commissioner  of DLWD.   He noted                                                               
however, that  there had not  been a statutory directive  to DEED                                                               
to support apprenticeship.   Representative Fields commented that                                                               
as    exemplified   by    international   best    practices   for                                                               
apprenticeship,   Alaska  needed   to   better  link   vocational                                                               
education with higher education.   He shared that the House Labor                                                               
and Commerce Standing Committee worked  with DEED on the proposed                                                               
legislation,   and   that   it   is   supportive   of   CTE   and                                                               
apprenticeship.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:09:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  stated that the University  of Alaska (UA)                                                               
system   has   pioneered   examples   of   college   credit   and                                                               
apprenticeship, including  in the  automotive industry.   He said                                                               
this  proposed legislation  directed  the  university to  support                                                               
[college credit  for apprenticeship] and  noted that there  was a                                                               
forthcoming  amendment  to  change  the  language  in  a  way  UA                                                               
supports.    He emphasized the importance of  linking college and                                                               
apprenticeship.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS said  CSHB 132(L&C)  has a  wide range  of                                                               
support,   and  listed   entities  in   favor  of   the  proposed                                                               
legislation,  including   Associated  Builders   and  Contractors                                                               
(ABC),  the  Alaska State  Hospital  &  Nursing Home  Association                                                               
(ASHNHA),  the  Alaska  Primary   Care  Association  (APCA),  the                                                               
Matanuska-Susitna  Borough  School  District  (MSBSD),  and  some                                                               
individual  employers and  unions.   He noted  that whether  non-                                                               
union  or union,  building trades,  or  healthcare, the  proposed                                                               
legislation had support from a broad range of stakeholders.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS   summarized  that  CSHB   132(L&C)  would                                                               
incentivize employer participation with a  tax credit and a bonus                                                               
tax   credit   for   veterans,  encourages   cross   departmental                                                               
collaboration between  DLWD and DEED, supports  school districts'                                                               
work  to expand  school-to-apprenticeship programs,  and provides                                                               
statutory  support  for  UA to  continue  expanding  its  college                                                               
credit for apprenticeship programs.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:12:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GILLHAM asked if there  was a minimum age to begin                                                               
an apprenticeship.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS replied  that it  depended on  the student                                                               
and the program.  He offered  that someone ages 16-18 could be in                                                               
a  registered apprenticeship  program and  a middle  college high                                                               
school program.   He  stated that in  some occupations  one can't                                                               
work before  turning 18,  so it would  depend on  the profession.                                                               
He shared  that in other  cases many Alaska schools  have school-                                                               
to-college linkage programs, which prepare  a student to enter an                                                               
apprenticeship program  upon graduating high school.   He offered                                                               
that in  this scenario, the  intention is to link  college credit                                                               
to the program.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:13:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARI  SELLE,  Director,  South Central  Alaska  Health  Education                                                               
Center   (SCAHEC),  Alaska   Primary  Care   Association  (APCA),                                                               
testified  in  favor of  CSHB  132(L&C).    She shared  that  the                                                               
proposed legislation  has the potential  to open doors  for youth                                                               
to  enter  health and  human  services  careers.   She  told  the                                                               
committee  that   APCA  has  been  a   multi-agency  sponsor  for                                                               
registered  apprenticeships since  2017.   The program  was built                                                               
with  the United  States Department  of Labor's  (DoL's) American                                                               
Apprenticeship  Initiative  (AAI)  and the  State  Apprenticeship                                                               
Expansion grant, managed  by DLWD.  She explained that  APCA is a                                                               
multi-agency  sponsor   that  works  with   different  healthcare                                                               
employers,  many  of whom  are  community  health centers.    The                                                               
various employers  employ the apprentices,  and APCA  manages the                                                               
apprenticeship  program for  its partners,  she said.  She stated                                                               
this is a system where students get paid while they learn.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SELLE  shared  that  about   25  percent  of  the  program's                                                               
apprentices  are  youths  ages  18-24.    She  said  APCA  has  a                                                               
partnership with  Alaska Works on a  youth apprenticeship program                                                               
to  increase the  availability of  apprenticeships.   She offered                                                               
that APCA also works with school  districts to get youth into its                                                               
apprenticeship programs.   She commented  that there is a  lot of                                                               
energy at  the moment  to create  apprenticeships for  youth, and                                                               
she believes CSHB 132(L&C) will  help take everything to the next                                                               
level.   She  said this  model of  apprenticeship works  well for                                                               
people who are  going into entry level jobs.   She explained that                                                               
this is because healthcare facilities  are mentoring and training                                                               
new staff.   She said the recruitment pool for  entry level jobs,                                                               
especially in  rural Alaska, is  limited so employers  must often                                                               
hire individuals  without experience.   The  apprenticeship model                                                               
provides the  missing piece of structured,  formal education that                                                               
leads to a certification and  takes people with no experience and                                                               
puts them  on a great career  path, she opined.   Ms. Selle noted                                                               
that APCA partners  with Alaska Pacific University  (APU), so all                                                               
participants   earn   college   credit   and   an   undergraduate                                                               
certificate    at   the    successful    completion   of    their                                                               
apprenticeship.    That  certificate  can lead  to  an  associate                                                               
degree  or  bachelor's  degree,  launching  the  student  into  a                                                               
career.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SELLE reiterated  her support  for the  proposed legislation                                                               
and  said she  felt  that  the tax  credit  incentive  was a  key                                                               
component.   She shared  that one of  APCA's challenges  has been                                                               
having more  willing students  than employers.   She  pointed out                                                               
the burden  of mentorship and  working with  young, inexperienced                                                               
people,  but  she believed  the  financial  incentive would  help                                                               
employers "take the plunge."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:19:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX looked  for clarification  regarding if  the                                                               
apprenticeship program  would establish guidelines in  the health                                                               
care  industry   to  measure   an  apprentice's   experience  and                                                               
knowledge in a specific field.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SELLE   replied  that  there   are  two  components   to  an                                                               
apprenticeship.    She  said  there  is  an  on-the-job  learning                                                               
component with many  metrics that one must meet.   She said there                                                               
is also  a related technical  instruction (RTI)  component, which                                                               
is classroom  learning.  She  explained that  it is similar  to a                                                               
college class  in which  there are  learning objectives  that one                                                               
must meet.   She  shared that APCA's  apprenticeships are  one to                                                               
two  years,  and  about  25-40  weeks  are  spent  in  a  virtual                                                               
classroom for 1-2 hours per week.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:21:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  added that apprenticeship is  regulated by                                                               
DoL,  so  for  any  given  occupation  there  are  "standards  of                                                               
apprenticeship" which  govern the  skills taught  on the  job and                                                               
RTI.   He  emphasized that  the standards  of apprenticeship  are                                                               
consistent  for any  occupation across  the United  States, which                                                               
gives a guarantee of quality across sponsors.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked how a  university or  school education                                                               
program  interfaced   with  an  employer  to   give  credits  and                                                               
accreditation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  replied that  the Northwest  Commission on                                                               
Colleges  and  Universities  (NWCCU),  the  region's  accrediting                                                               
body, has  long worked with  universities.  He explained  that an                                                               
institution of  higher education  must look at  an apprenticeship                                                               
program and  determine whether the related  technical instruction                                                               
and the on-the-job learning align  with a college degree program.                                                               
The college can  then either use an existing  instructor, such as                                                               
one  from  APCA, for  the  program,  or have  college  professors                                                               
deliver the  RTI in a traditional  college setting, he said.   He                                                               
explained that NWCCU accommodates that range of options.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:23:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GILLHAM  asked Ms.  Selle how CSHB  132(L&C) would                                                               
help  existing apprenticeship  programs.   He  commented that  he                                                               
completed   a  union   apprenticeship  without   needing  college                                                               
credits.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. SELLE answered that healthcare  apprenticeships are new.  She                                                               
said  she believed  the proposed  legislation  would help  school                                                               
districts strengthen apprenticeship  programs and bring awareness                                                               
to  the value  of apprenticeships  to both  school districts  and                                                               
employers.   She  commented that  the  financial incentive  would                                                               
intrigue  employers.    She  said  there  are  differences  among                                                               
different trades  and said carpentry  was an example of  having a                                                               
long  history of  established  apprenticeships, while  healthcare                                                               
was still in the process  of making apprenticeship an established                                                               
norm.     She  emphasized  that  retention   and  recruitment  in                                                               
healthcare  is an  issue  and has  been  for a  long  time.   She                                                               
suggested that this could be a  tool to train an a highly skilled                                                               
and qualified workforce.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS added that  in South Carolina where similar                                                               
proposed legislation  had passed, the $1000  incentive was enough                                                               
to incentivize employers to try  the program, which then paid for                                                               
itself  with  reduced  turnover  and  higher  productivity.    He                                                               
described  it   as  an  inducement  that   allowed  employers  to                                                               
experiment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GILLHAM asked  if the  $1,000 incentive  was one-                                                               
time or repeated.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS replied that it is a one-time incentive.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:27:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  presented the  sectional analysis  of CSHB
132(L&C).    He  said  Section   1  names  the  bill  the  Alaska                                                               
Apprenticeship Expansion Act;  Section 2 adds duties  to DEED and                                                               
states that  it must collaborate  with DLWD to  provide financial                                                               
and technical  support to  school districts.   He  commented that                                                               
DEED has primarily supported CTE  with the Carl D. Perkins grant,                                                               
which  is  insufficient   to  scale  up  school-to-apprenticeship                                                               
programs.  He said this  makes the statutory direction necessary,                                                               
because DEED  will have  to think  creatively beyond  the Perkins                                                               
grant.     Section  3  provides   statutory  support  to   UA  to                                                               
collaborate  with DEED  on  apprenticeships  aligned with  higher                                                               
education, he explained.  Section  4 is the registered apprentice                                                               
tax credit, he said.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:29:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND commented that  Ms. Selle had said COVID-                                                               
19 did  not disrupt  the remote instruction  but did  not mention                                                               
how it  affected on the job  training.  She asked  for discussion                                                               
on healthcare training during the pandemic.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  replied  that APCA  was  well  positioned                                                               
because  they  have a  robust  system  for digital  communication                                                               
including video from the APCA  headquarters in Anchorage, Alaska.                                                               
He said in  terms of the participating  community health centers,                                                               
the  health centers  needed to  identify the  mentor for  a given                                                               
apprentice in  one of  APCA's five  apprenticeship programs.   He                                                               
clarified  that APCA  is an  umbrella organization  that includes                                                               
numerous health care organizations throughout the state.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:31:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY asked  how  the program  would  work for  smaller                                                               
village schools.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS pointed to a  teaching program in the Lower                                                               
Kuskokwim School  District (LKSD) with  registered apprenticeship                                                               
embedded  in it.   He  said LKSD  identifies people  who want  to                                                               
become elementary education teachers and  allows them to start as                                                               
an  apprentice, either  as an  associate teacher  or a  teacher's                                                               
aide.     Students   then  work   through  apprenticeship   while                                                               
completing  their  University  of Alaska  Fairbanks  (UAF)  Early                                                               
Education distance  delivered program.   He explained  that these                                                               
participants are earning  a wage while working  towards a college                                                               
degree.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS offered  a  second  example with  building                                                               
trades.   He said  someone working  in construction  may complete                                                               
apprenticeship  hours   in  different   communities.     He  also                                                               
suggested  there are  rural residents  who attend  apprenticeship                                                               
training at a training center in Anchorage or Fairbanks.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:33:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    GILLHAM    asked   if    individuals    joining                                                               
apprenticeships would be required to join unions.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS replied  no,  apprenticeship  as a  system                                                               
works  for  both   union  and  non-union  employers.     He  said                                                               
apprenticeship programs can be sponsored  by a single employer or                                                               
multiple employers.   He  gave Red  Dog Mine as  an example  of a                                                               
single-employer,  non-union apprenticeship  program sponsor.   He                                                               
said it  has multiple  apprenticeships and is  a world  leader in                                                               
terms of apprenticeship.   He offered APCA and  ABC as non-union,                                                               
multi-employer examples.  He said  there are also single-employer                                                               
union  programs and  mentioned employees  at the  Mat-Su Regional                                                               
Medical Center, which has  employees represented by International                                                               
Brotherhood of  Electrical Workers (IBEW) Local  1574 and started                                                               
an  apprentice  program  in  partnership  with  the  union.    He                                                               
explained that  traditional building  trades, such  as carpentry,                                                               
are  the multi-employer  unions.   He  summarized  that all  four                                                               
models exist, and apprenticeship training  is open to anyone.  He                                                               
said some  of the  new innovative  programs are  still developing                                                               
standards of apprenticeship, which is  what Dol and DLWD did with                                                               
APCA and the Red Dog Mine.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:36:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  said she  would like to  see a  chart of                                                               
the  four  models  Representative  Fields  had  described.    She                                                               
commented that  she had  seen a chart  by the  Associated General                                                               
Contractors (AGC)  of Alaska  that compared  apprenticeship wages                                                               
while working  and learning  to college  wages while  working and                                                               
learning, along with the debt at  the end of either program.  She                                                               
asked if he could provide  something similar to show the benefits                                                               
of the program.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS replied  that all  apprenticeship programs                                                               
have  a  wage progression.    He  said the  traditional  building                                                               
trades  with AGC  typically offer  60  percent of  wages for  the                                                               
first year  of apprenticeship,  70 percent  for the  second year,                                                               
then 80  and 90  with a four-year  apprenticeship.   He explained                                                               
that  as an  apprentice learns,  he/she earns  higher wages.   He                                                               
suggested  this  is  instrumental  for a  win-win  for  both  the                                                               
employer and the employee.  He  referenced a study from the Palin                                                               
Administration on  apprenticeship, Alaska hiring, and  wages.  He                                                               
suggested it had compelling data  about apprenticeship leading to                                                               
living wages.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:39:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY  asked about the  fiscal note.  She  observed that                                                               
DLWD and  DEED appeared  to be able  to build  these partnerships                                                               
with  the current  structure.   She also  commented that  she was                                                               
curious  how   it  extended   into  post-secondary   high  school                                                               
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS replied that DEED  and DLWD told his office                                                               
that  both already  wanted to  support apprenticeship,  so adding                                                               
statutory support  did not add  cost.  He  said the cost  in CSHB
132(L&C) is going to be the tax credit.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY concluded  by adding  that CTE  is one  of DEED's                                                               
five priorities of Alaska's Education Challenge.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[HB 132 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:40:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:40 a.m. to 8:45 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           HB 108-CONCURRENT SECONDARY & TRADE SCHOOL                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:45:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 108,  "An Act relating to concurrent vocational                                                               
education,  training, and  on-the-job  trade experience  programs                                                               
for students  enrolled in public  secondary schools;  relating to                                                               
child labor; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:45:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEN  MCCARTY, Alaska  State Legislature,  as prime                                                               
sponsor, presented HB 108.   He said that in secondary education,                                                               
Alaska  offers concurrent  enrollment to  enter college  courses,                                                               
but the  state does  not offer  the same for  trade classes.   He                                                               
explained  that if  a student  wanted to  pursue a  trade format,                                                               
he/she  would  have  to  do   so  independent  of  the  secondary                                                               
education experience.   He  explained that  HB 108  would resolve                                                               
the issue  so a student  could do concurrent enrollment  in trade                                                               
and  recognize  that it  is  done  by industry  recognized  trade                                                               
experts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:47:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:47 a.m. to 8:48 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:48:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY added that  the proposed legislation opens                                                               
up opportunities for the tactile learning process.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:49:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DENEEN  TUCK, Staff,  Representative  Ken  McCarty, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  presented  the sectional  analysis  for  HB 108  on                                                               
behalf  of Representative  McCarty, prime  sponsor.   She stated,                                                               
"Going over  the sectional analysis,  there's one thing  that I'd                                                               
like to  point out, and  that will  come up in  the presentation.                                                               
We talk  about the Department of  Education in here, but  we have                                                               
learned since talking  with Mr. Anderson at  the Anchorage School                                                               
District that  districts are  already doing this.   So,  we would                                                               
like  to  replace  'The  Department   of  Education'  with  'each                                                               
district,' and  we'll talk  about that  as we  move along  in the                                                               
bill."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TUCK  said  Section  1  adds  criminal  history  checks  for                                                               
instructors  of  students   in  trades,  on-the-job-training,  or                                                               
apprenticeship.  Section 2,  she explained, instructs DEED/school                                                               
districts to provide students CTE  opportunities.  Section 3 adds                                                               
six new sections to  AS 14.35.  First, it makes  it so those aged                                                               
14  years  or  older  may participate  in  concurrent  vocational                                                               
education programs, she shared.   Second, it instructs the school                                                               
district to contract with external  programs for on-the-job style                                                               
instruction,  requires a  published list  of available  programs,                                                               
allows  for  enrollment  in   the  program,  mandates  individual                                                               
learning   plans   for    students,   and   requires   instructor                                                               
certification.    Ms.  Tuck  said   that  Section  4  amends  the                                                               
requirements  for supervision  of  an employed  minor, Section  5                                                               
lowers  the employment  age to  16  years old,  Section 6  allows                                                               
minors  to  work to  10  p.m.,  and  Section  7 provides  for  an                                                               
effective date.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:55:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  asked if brothers-in-law  or sisters-in-                                                               
law would count as extended family referred to in Section 4.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUCK replied  that she and Representative  McCarty would have                                                               
no objections  if Representative  Drummond would propose  that as                                                               
an amendment.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  added that  the language  "the department                                                               
or district" could be part of the amendment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:56:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  asked  how  HB  108  interfaced  with  CSHB
132(L&C) and how it was different.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY replied that  CSHB 132(L&C) was mostly for                                                               
individuals seeking  apprenticeship who  were 18  and older.   He                                                               
explained that HB 108 captured  all secondary school-age kids who                                                               
didn't  fit into  the category  of CSHB  132(L&C).   He commented                                                               
that  this  was a  "synergy  of  different  bills that  had  come                                                               
together for  workability."  He  explained that a student  at age                                                               
14  could start  the process  towards workability  and would  get                                                               
industry  recognized   certifications  in   that  process.     He                                                               
suggested  students  could  graduate  at  18  and  be  offered  a                                                               
$100,000 [annual paying] job.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:58:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GILLHAM asked what  the "domestic work" in Section                                                               
6 of the bill entailed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY replied that  the current statute says the                                                               
criteria listed does not apply  to a baby-sitter or to housework,                                                               
so  a babysitter  could work  until 2  a.m.   What this  proposed                                                               
legislation  does  is  address  the  current  statute  that  says                                                               
student youth  must be  off the  clock by  9 p.m.   He  said this                                                               
section extended that time by one  hour, but there were still the                                                               
same time  frames.  He  offered an  example of a  Juneau resident                                                               
who owned several movie theaters  and had to send youth employees                                                               
home at 9 p.m., even with movies still going.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GILLHAM  related anecdotally that his  son started                                                               
working 10-hour days  on his charter boat at age  eight for seven                                                               
days a week.   He commented that limiting fishing  families to 23                                                               
hours  a  week is  a  hindrance  and  said  that in  the  fishing                                                               
industry, people wouldn't keep to 23 hours.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  replied  that  Representative  Gillham's                                                               
particular  concern has  been raised  often.   He commented  that                                                               
when the youth is  working for a parent that puts  it in a "whole                                                               
different paradigm."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUCK  added the 23 hours  was already in statute,  and HB 108                                                               
would not  change that.   She explained  that the only  thing the                                                               
proposed  legislation would  change would  be to  allow youth  to                                                               
work one hour later.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:02:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND  asked  if  10  p.m.  was  late  enough,                                                               
especially   in  Alaska   summer   considering  the   "geographic                                                               
advantage to daylight."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY replied  it was  also an  issue with  the                                                               
Occupational Safety and Health  Administration (OSHA) child labor                                                               
laws at  the federal level.   He said  there had been  an attempt                                                               
previously to make a shift  to expand the available youth working                                                               
hours to  both earlier in the  morning and later at  night, which                                                               
was shut down due to federal regulation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND commented  that these  were "baby  steps                                                               
while we train OSHA that Alaska  is part of the United States but                                                               
has a totally different   latitudinal experience."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:04:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY gave a PowerPoint  presentation on HB 108.                                                               
He  overviewed   slide  2,  which   read  as   follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? Gives high school students  age 14 and up, concurrent                                                                    
     enrollment  opportunity for  vocational education  with                                                                    
     industry-standard instruction and certification.                                                                           
      ? Ensures  that students receive the  best training by                                                                    
     requiring   an    industry   standard    master   skill                                                                    
     certification for instructors.                                                                                             
      ?  Trade  programs  contracted with  school  districts                                                                    
     must   prove  that   their  instruction   meets  agency                                                                    
     accredited national or regional standards.                                                                                 
      ? Gives equal opportunity to  all students who wish to                                                                    
     participate.                                                                                                               
      ?  Will  raise  attendance and  graduation  rates  and                                                                    
     produce  a stronger  workforce with  skilled experience                                                                    
     and work ethic.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  stated this wasn't something  new; it was                                                               
something that the state already wanted to do.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:07:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY directed attention  to slide 4, which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Youth & Workforce Engagement                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      ? Less 0.5% of Alaska's Active Apprentices are under                                                                      
     18                                                                                                                         
      ? In 2019 only 35% of teens ages 16-19 were part of                                                                       
     the U.S Workforce                                                                                                          
     ? A 25% decrease in teen workers from the peak in 1979                                                                     
     when 60% of Teens ages 16-19 held down part-time jobs                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  said there  has  been  a large  drop  of                                                               
participation  in  the  workforce   and  offered  anecdotes  from                                                               
various  states.   He moved  to slide  5 and  commented that  CTE                                                               
education is  a national trend, and  HB 108 is in  line with that                                                               
movement.   He presented  slide 6, which  showed findings  from a                                                               
study  performed by  the American  Student Association  (ASA) and                                                               
Bellwether  Education Partners  on work-based  learning policies.                                                               
He  observed that  Alaska has  improvements to  make.   He stated                                                               
that  with  HB   108,  CSSB  32(FIN),  and   CSHB  132(L&C),  the                                                               
legislature would make great strides.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY presented slide 7.   He shared that HB 108                                                               
supports "Program  Lists."   He said DEED  is already  asking for                                                               
vocational trade  lists, which he explained  the industry already                                                               
has.   He pointed  to "Instructor  Certification," and  said that                                                               
there   are   already   instructors,   and   he   explained   the                                                               
certification  process   which  would  allow   industry  standard                                                               
professionals to  teach in  the classroom.   Lastly,  he directed                                                               
attention  to "Program  Contracts."   He  said  that many  Alaska                                                               
schools  have  programs and  materials,  but  some  do not.    He                                                               
suggested   these  programs   could   happen  with   neighborhood                                                               
businesses and  offered an  anecdote from when  he ran  a special                                                               
needs school which offered sewing classes with a local business.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:11:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  moved  to  slide 8  and  explained  that                                                               
funding came from  base student allocation (BSA)  funding, and no                                                               
special  funding was  needed for  the proposed  legislation.   He                                                               
presented slide 9 and addressed  the term "higher education."  He                                                               
shared  his view  that  higher education  is  any education  that                                                               
builds a career.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  presented  slides  10-13  and  discussed                                                               
seven benefits  of trade  skills and  vocational education.   The                                                               
first benefit he presented was the  ability to start young at age                                                               
14.    The second  benefit  he  pointed  out was  having  smaller                                                               
classes  and   like-minded  peers,   which  he  likened   to  the                                                               
relationships built  in a  sports team setting.   He  offered the                                                               
next  two benefits:  career service  opportunities from  specific                                                               
training and the cost benefit of  industry level pay.  He pointed                                                               
out the  impact of hands-on training.   The last two  benefits he                                                               
mentioned were job placement and faster workforce certification.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:14:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRAD AUSTIN, Apprenticeship  Coordinator, Plumbers, Pipefitters &                                                               
Southeast   Mechanical    Contractors   Apprenticeship   Program,                                                               
Plumbers and Pipe  Fitters Local 262   provided invited testimony                                                               
in favor  of HB 108.   He shared with  the committee that  he was                                                               
also representing the Alaska Pipe  Trades, Local 375 in Fairbanks                                                               
and  Local  367 in  Anchorage,  all  three  of which  are  multi-                                                               
employer   union   programs   that   run   federally   registered                                                               
apprenticeship programs.   He explained  that with that,  comes a                                                               
set  of  rules  called  the "Standard  of  Apprenticeship."    He                                                               
commented  that  one part  of  that  is the  on-the-job  training                                                               
component,  and  the other  component  is  the related  technical                                                               
instruction.   He shared  that Local  262's training  program has                                                               
240  hours  a  year,  adding  up  to  six  weeks  of  instruction                                                               
including formal  classroom training, from math  to more advanced                                                               
skills  such  as  medical  gas  installation,  which  involves  a                                                               
certificate.   He stated that  there is a wage  progression, with                                                               
the program starting at 50  percent of journeyman scale for first                                                               
year apprentices, and then every six  months there is a raise and                                                               
an advancement  within the  program.  He  noted that  the program                                                               
was five  years long,  10,000 hours, and  completes with  a state                                                               
plumbing test.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  AUSTIN commented  that electrician  and plumber  apprentices                                                               
must be  registered in order to  obtain a trainee card,  and that                                                               
the state  tracks the  hours.  Once  an apprentice  reaches 8,000                                                               
hours, the  individual may take the  state test.  He  opined that                                                               
it is  much like school and  shared that there are  monthly grade                                                               
cards given  by the  journeyman who oversees  an apprentice.   He                                                               
shared  that the  grade card  also  documents the  hours and  the                                                               
processes  completed by  the  apprentice.   The  grade cards  are                                                               
reviewed, and then  it is decided whether an  apprentice is ready                                                               
for  advancement, he  explained.   He compared  it to  a freshman                                                               
becoming  a  sophomore  in  high  school.   He  shared  that  the                                                               
Plumber's  and  Pipefitters  apprenticeship is  registered  as  a                                                               
post-secondary exempt training facility  with DEED.  He mentioned                                                               
that college  credits were also involved  with the apprenticeship                                                               
program  and  noted  that  the  union  had  agreements  with  two                                                               
universities and two community colleges, along with UA.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. AUSTIN  asserted that these  are great careers, and  said the                                                               
apprentices  begin  at  $19.41  an hour  when  starting  with  no                                                               
training.    He  said  HB 108  would  provide  opportunities  for                                                               
students who  may not  realize there are  high paying  careers in                                                               
the  plumbing  and  pipefitting  industry.    He  requested  that                                                               
"registered apprenticeship"  be added  to the  bill next  to "on-                                                               
the-job"  trade  experience  to  "open it  up"  and  add  clarity                                                               
regarding these programs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:21:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM ANDERSON, CFO, Anchorage School  District (ASD), testified in                                                               
favor of  HB 108.   He shared  that the Anchorage  School Board's                                                               
three  goals  are:  reading proficiency;  math  proficiency;  and                                                               
life,  college,  and  career  readiness   upon  graduation.    He                                                               
asserted that  those goals  would be  reinforced by  the proposed                                                               
legislation.   He  stated  that HB  108  strengthens the  state's                                                               
focus to provide  high school students an  opportunity to receive                                                               
industry-standard training so they will  have viable skills for a                                                               
trade upon  graduation.   He also noted  that the  bill addressed                                                               
the partnership with  businesses in many areas that  may not have                                                               
state certified apprentice  programs.  He said ASD  has split its                                                               
work-based  learning opportunities  into  two areas:  internships                                                               
and job  shadowing.  He  stated that internships  with businesses                                                               
have allowed many students to  develop skills that enable them to                                                               
receive  jobs  immediately following  graduation.    He said  the                                                               
district has partnered with 93  business, some of which are local                                                               
union apprentice programs although the  vast majority are not, in                                                               
21  distinct  career fields,  such  as  art design,  bio-medical,                                                               
telecommunications,    horticulture,     carpentry,    veterinary                                                               
assistants, welding, collision repair, and  many more.  He shared                                                               
that  ASD was  expanding an  intern program  within its  business                                                               
units so  that soon  students would  be able  to build  skills in                                                               
maintenance,   information  technology,   human  resources,   and                                                               
nutrition.   He  explained that  students participating  in these                                                               
programs   receive  course   credit,  and   he  noted   that  the                                                               
partnerships  were nearly  always  available at  no  cost to  the                                                               
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  said Alaska's  future  depended  on ensuring  that                                                               
students who don't attend college  have pathways to start careers                                                               
upon graduating  high school.   He shared  that in 2019  prior to                                                               
the  pandemic,  ASD  had  126   students  participate  in  intern                                                               
programs  with district  partners  and another  190 students  who                                                               
participated in  job shadowing.   He  said that  state registered                                                               
apprenticeships  are a  small part  of  the district's  workforce                                                               
development,  with  five  to  eight  students  entering  a  state                                                               
registered apprenticeship  at age  18, but  noted that  the other                                                               
industry  partnership programs  have three  times the  employment                                                               
rate  upon  graduation.   Mr.  Anderson  reiterated that  HB  108                                                               
supports the  Anchorage School Board's  goal of  having student's                                                               
life,  college,  and  career ready  upon  graduation,  and  [ASD]                                                               
strongly supports the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:25:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY announced HB 108 would be held over.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
         HB 19-LIMITED TEACHER CERTIFICATES; LANGUAGES                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:26:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY announced  that the final order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  19, "An  Act relating  to  instruction in  a                                                               
language other  than English;  and establishing  limited language                                                               
immersion teacher certificates."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:26:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS,  Alaska   State  Legislature,  as                                                               
prime sponsor,  introduced HB  19.   He shared  that this  is the                                                               
third  legislature  he has  carried  a  version of  the  proposed                                                               
legislation in, noting that the  first version passed 40-0 in the                                                               
House, but  did not make  it through  the Senate, and  during the                                                               
Thirty-first   Alaska  State   Legislature,  COVID-19   truncated                                                               
session.    He  called  HB  19 an  important  piece  of  proposed                                                               
legislation and the actionable thing  the legislature could do to                                                               
support Alaska  Native language revitalization for  the districts                                                               
and  communities that  are seeking  to create  immersion language                                                               
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:28:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDSAY  BURKE,  Staff,   Representative  Kreiss-Tomkins,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  presented HB  19 on behalf  of Representative                                                               
Kreiss-Tomkins,  prime sponsor.   She  explained that  high-level                                                               
immersion programs are an education  model used widely across the                                                               
country and increasingly in Alaska.   In these programs, at least                                                               
50 percent  of the  learning is conducted  in a  target language,                                                               
such as Spanish,  German, or Yup'ik.  She shared  that there is a                                                               
limited pool of  fully certified teachers who  have the necessary                                                               
language abilities,  but there are  many fluent speakers  who are                                                               
suited for  the program  but do not  have the  full certification                                                               
for reasons  such as  limited English  ability, advanced  age, or                                                               
familial  responsibility.   The proposed  legislation would  ease                                                               
that burden  by amending the state's  limited teacher certificate                                                               
program and allowing certificates to  be issued at the request of                                                               
the school  district for  teachers with  a specific  subject area                                                               
expertise, in  which there  are few  fully certified  and trained                                                               
teachers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURK said HB 19 would  authorize the State Board of Education                                                               
and  Early   Development  to  create   a  new  type   of  limited                                                               
certificate,  specific  to  teaching   in  a  language  immersion                                                               
program.  The board would  be authorized to author regulations to                                                               
ensure the  certificate holder demonstrates  instructional skills                                                               
in subject  matter or expertise  sufficient to assure  the public                                                               
that the  person is competent as  a teacher, she said.   Under HB
19, the  board would  be empowered to  write the  regulations and                                                               
create the certificate,  but would not be required to  do so, and                                                               
the school districts would retain  local control whether to apply                                                               
for a  certificate on behalf  of a  teacher, she explained.   She                                                               
informed the committee  that a limited certificate  would be good                                                               
for a one-year  probationary period, with an  option for renewal,                                                               
pending  the  school  district's   affirmation  of  the  holder's                                                               
educational skills  and subject matter expertise.   She concluded                                                               
that HB 19 was drafted to  address the specific need faced by the                                                               
language immersion program and to strengthen the program.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:31:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REID MAGDANZ, Alaska Native  Languages Advocate, provided invited                                                               
testimony in  support of HB  19.   He provided the  committee his                                                               
personal background to give context  to his testimony.  He shared                                                               
that his  parents moved  to Alaska  from California  and Nebraska                                                               
and raised him  in Kotzebue, where he graduated  from high school                                                               
in 2008.   He  said he  left Alaska for  college but  returned in                                                               
2014  to  work as  legislative  staff  to Representative  Kreiss-                                                               
Tompkins.  After five years  with the legislature, he returned to                                                               
Kotzebue where  he is  now an  educator and  construction worker.                                                               
Mr. Magdanz  shared that  he is learning  Inupiaq and  is talking                                                               
with people around  the state about the education  system and the                                                               
early stages of an effort  to help schools better serve students,                                                               
especially in rural Alaska.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ  said his  comments on  HB 19  are reflective  of his                                                               
experience, particularly in Alaska  schools and working on Alaska                                                               
Native language revitalization for the  past six years.  He noted                                                               
that he speaks  primarily from the Rural Alaska  perspective.  He                                                               
stated that  HB 19 would address  what he understood as  the most                                                               
important barrier to academic success  for rural Alaska students.                                                               
He said rural  Alaska students, often Alaska  Native students, go                                                               
to  schools with  teachers and  administrators that  do not  look                                                               
like them,  behave like them, and  have not lived like  them, and                                                               
then  must learn  from curriculums  divorced from  the place  and                                                               
reality  in which  those students  live.   He shared  an anecdote                                                               
about a  teacher in Kotzebue  whose curriculum instructed  her to                                                               
teach about  subways, even though  snow machines would  have been                                                               
more applicable  and easier to  understand for the students.   He                                                               
opined it  was no  wonder that  students become  disinterested in                                                               
school  and  learning, which  he  shared  he  saw happen  to  his                                                               
classmates  as he  grew  up in  Kotzebue.   He  noted that  rural                                                               
Alaska  also  has  some Alaska  Native  teachers  and  non-Native                                                               
teachers who have lived in rural Alaska for a log time.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:35:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAGDANZ  challenged the committee  to consider what  could be                                                               
done  to  make school  more  relevant  and improve  the  academic                                                               
success  of rural  Alaska students.   He  asserted that  bringing                                                               
Native  language  and  Native  culture   to  the  center  of  the                                                               
educational experience can make a  real difference.  He suggested                                                               
that not  only do  students, both  Native and  non-Native, become                                                               
more grounded in  who they are, but they also  do better in math,                                                               
science,  writing, and  reading.   He said  there are  decades of                                                               
research  reinforcing this,  and he  referenced the  Alaska Rural                                                               
Systemic Initiative  (AKRSI), and  the writings of  Ray Barnhardt                                                               
and  Angayuqaq  Oscar   Kawagley.    He  opined   that  the  best                                                               
preparation   for  education   is   a  life   in  the   students'                                                               
communities, not  a university teacher  program in the  Lower 48.                                                               
He argued that HB 19 provides  a path for school districts to get                                                               
those  teachers   into  the  classrooms  within   the  regulatory                                                               
parameters established by  DEED and the State  Board of Education                                                               
and Early Development.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAGDANZ concluded  his testimony  with  an anecdote  sharing                                                               
that Kotzebue  has an Inupiaq  immersion school run by  the local                                                               
tribal  government.   He said  it has  been in  operation for  23                                                               
years and  teaches children  ages 3-7,  and to  his understanding                                                               
did not  have any  state certified  teachers, because  there were                                                               
none  that spoke  the  language.   He  said  when these  students                                                               
transfer  to public  school,  they often  lead  their classes  in                                                               
academic  performance.   Although  he  admitted  it was  a  small                                                               
sample, he said it was a promise of what HB 19 could deliver.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:38:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL JOHNSON, Commissioner, Department  of Education and Early                                                               
Development, provided invited testimony in  support of HB 19.  He                                                               
stated that the cornerstone of  an education starts with learning                                                               
language, including  learning to  read, and that  students thrive                                                               
when their learning, culture, and  conscience are integrated.  He                                                               
argued that  HB 19 gives  needed flexibility to  school districts                                                               
to  hire more  teachers who  are qualified  to teach  in language                                                               
immersion  programs,  which  can better  integrate  culture  into                                                               
classrooms.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON  said HB  19 aligned with  the goals  of the                                                               
Alaska Education  Challenge, and said  it fit well with  the goal                                                               
to have  all students  read at  grade level by  the end  of third                                                               
grade.  He  stated that a comprehensive reading  policy in Alaska                                                               
that  improves  student  outcomes  will  include  more  immersion                                                               
schools, and  therefore be dependent on  more immersion teachers.                                                               
He  said the  proposed  legislation meets  the  goal to  increase                                                               
career,  technical, and  culturally  relevant  education to  meet                                                               
workforce  needs.   He  argued  that  the economic  wellbeing  of                                                               
Alaska  students and  the  state can  be  improved with  language                                                               
revitalization programs.   He continued  that HB 19 fit  the goal                                                               
to close  the achievement gap  by ensuring  equitable educational                                                               
rigor  and resources,  because more  teachers qualified  to teach                                                               
immersion  programs would  help close  the achievement  gap.   He                                                               
said  the  proposed  legislation  would also  meet  the  goal  of                                                               
attracting and  recruiting effective  educators.  He  shared that                                                               
there is  research that language revitalization  can help improve                                                               
the safety and wellbeing of  students as they become more engaged                                                               
in their education and goals.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON said DEED's goal  is to provide an excellent                                                               
education  for  every student,  every  single  day.   With  fewer                                                               
individuals  entering  Alaska  teacher preparation  programs  and                                                               
applying  for  teaching  jobs, more  than  two-thirds  of  Alaska                                                               
teachers come from  out of state, and he said  more Alaskans were                                                               
needed  in  the classroom.    He  said the  proposed  legislation                                                               
provides  quantity  by  establishing an  additional  pathway  for                                                               
local  school   boards  to   recognize  emerging   teachers  with                                                               
expertise  in  a  language  other   than  English,  and  that  it                                                               
addresses quality by allowing the  local school boards to request                                                               
the issuance of a limited  language immersion teacher certificate                                                               
that  is  only  valid  in  a  language  immersion  program.    He                                                               
explained that by  establishing the length of  the certificate to                                                               
only one  year, the local board  retains the option to  extend or                                                               
renew the certificate.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:42:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND referred to language  on page 2 of HB 19,                                                               
lines 24-30.   She  asked why  a language that  is not  an Alaska                                                               
Native language can  be certified for a cumulative  period not to                                                               
exceed  four  years,  while  an Alaska  Native  language  may  be                                                               
certified for a cumulative period that may exceed four years.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS replied  the previous  legislative                                                               
body  had  a  concern  that   districts  would  use  the  limited                                                               
certificate  ad  infinitum and  felt  that  a maximum  length  of                                                               
renewal would  be appropriate,  so it  was incorporated  into the                                                               
bill.   He offered his  opinion that  it was unlikely  that there                                                               
would be  ad infinitum  renewals of  rural language  teachers who                                                               
are on  the limited  teacher certificate, and  it was  likely one                                                               
would eventually seek normal certification.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:44:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  why  certificate  renewal would  have                                                               
restrictions and commented it would  make sense to keep a teacher                                                               
involved as  long as the  teacher is  interested and not  put any                                                               
obstacles before him/her.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS replied  that Representative Prax's                                                               
question aligned with his own thinking,  but he said he defers to                                                               
committee  process   in  how  best  to   structure  the  proposed                                                               
legislation.   He commented that if  it is the will  of committee                                                               
to  remove that  section, which  is how  the bill  was originally                                                               
drafted, he would be amenable as  his broader goal is to pass the                                                               
proposed  legislation.   He  said he  would  agree with  whatever                                                               
compromise worked with the appropriate parties.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked for clarification  about how to get the                                                               
limited certificate and offered  his understanding that a teacher                                                               
would  have to  demonstrate  competence in  teaching  as well  as                                                               
speaking the given language.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS replied  that  there are  multiple                                                               
layers of review.   He said the local school  district must first                                                               
affirmatively approve of the teacher.   From there, he explained,                                                               
the referral  goes to DEED,  which will write the  regulations to                                                               
provide proper reviews  on teaching ability, and  only then would                                                               
a teacher get a certificate for one year.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX commented that  he could understand initially                                                               
limiting the certificate to a year,  but if it was successful, he                                                               
wouldn't want to leave an obstacle in place.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:48:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  shared her  connection to  languages and                                                               
explained  that she  spoke Greek  as a  child.   She opined  that                                                               
Alaska Native  languages are  dying out, and  it is  important to                                                               
connect  with  Native speakers.    She  commented that  she  also                                                               
wanted to  hear about how  it was  going in the  school districts                                                               
that had been offering Native language immersion for decades.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS   suggested  that   during  public                                                               
testimony there would  be many points of  perspective from across                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:50:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY  referred to  the  language  on page  2,                                                               
lines 24-30, of  HB 19 and asked if it  would be appropriate "for                                                               
that  to  be   considered  for  removal  and   inclusion  in  the                                                               
regulatory process."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON replied  he would need time  to consider the                                                               
proposed  action but  would notify  her office.   In  general, he                                                               
said, the more specific the legislature  is, the easier it is for                                                               
DEED  to implement  the  proposed legislation  as  intended.   He                                                               
commented that  all of  DEED's regulations  go through  the state                                                               
board and receive  public comment, and so  the regulatory process                                                               
at  the   department  does  provide  an   opportunity  to  refine                                                               
legislative intent.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY  asked representative  Kreiss-Tompkins if                                                               
it  was more  advantageous for  the  language to  be stripped  or                                                               
perhaps made broader to allow  for a better relationship with the                                                               
department, which  is setting the  regulations and  standards for                                                               
certification.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS   reiterated  that   the  original                                                               
version of  the bill did not  include the language, which  he saw                                                               
as  the  policy ideal.    He  commented that  preserving  maximum                                                               
latitude for  local districts and  the state board to  manage the                                                               
teacher certificate  program is  ideal.   He said  that if  it is                                                               
necessary   that  the   State  Board   of  Education   and  Early                                                               
Development create  a cap on  how many years a  certification can                                                               
be renewed,  he is  sure it  would do  so.   He restated  that he                                                               
would defer to the will of the committee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY responded  to Representative  Drummond's                                                               
earlier  comments and  said that  her district  has had  a Yup'ik                                                               
immersion program charter school for  about 30 years.  She shared                                                               
that many  graduates have followed pursuits  such as engineering,                                                               
have  gone to  Ivy League  universities, and  have given  back to                                                               
their communities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:54:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRONK asked Commissioner  Johnson what DEED's goal                                                               
was regarding the proposed legislation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON  replied that more successful  students [was                                                               
the  goal].    He  shared  his  belief  that  education  that  is                                                               
integrated with  culture, including  language, helps  students to                                                               
be more successful. He referred  to how [the Alaska Native Tribal                                                               
Health  Consortium] has  helped Alaska  through the  pandemic and                                                               
argued that  tribes are  well equipped and  well able  to provide                                                               
for the wellbeing of the community.   He said he found this to be                                                               
an opportunity  to have another  component of that  in education.                                                               
He asserted  that more  immersion programs would  help at  a high                                                               
level.   He  also shared  that there  is evidence  that immersion                                                               
programs  result   in  more  students  reading   proficiently  in                                                               
multiple languages.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:57:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY announced HB 19 was held over.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:58:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 9:58 a.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 132 v W 3.25.21.PDF HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 132 Sponsor Statement 3.12.21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
CSHB 132 ver W Sectional Analysis 4.7.2021.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
CSHB 132 Summary of Changes ver B to ver W 4.7.2021.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 132 Sponsor PowerPoint 3.12.21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 132 Letters of Support as of 4.7.21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 132 Fiscal Note-DOLWD-WH-03-12-21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 132 Fiscal Note-DOLWD-WIB-03012-21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 132 Fiscal Note-DOR-TAX-03-12-21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB 132 Fiscal Note-EED-SSA-3-23-21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 132
HB0108 version G.PDF HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB108 Sponsor Statement version G 03.09.21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB108 Sectional Analysis 03.31.21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB 108 Slide Presentation 3.31.21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB108 letters of support 04.01.21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB 108 Letters of Support 4.6.21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB 108 Letter of support 4.7.21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB 108 Fiscal Note DPS-CJISP-04-02-21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB 108 Fiscal Note EED-SSA-3-31-21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB 108 Fiscal Note-DOLWD-WH-04-02-21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 108
HB0019A.PDF HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 19
HB 19 Fiscal Note-EED-TC-1-18-21.pdf HEDC 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 19