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*+ HJR 13 COMPLETION OF UNIVERSITY LAND GRANT TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 22, 2019                                                                                         
                           8:08 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harriet Drummond, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Andi Story, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Tiffany Zulkosky                                                                                                 
Representative Josh Revak                                                                                                       
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Grier Hopkins                                                                                                    
Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 13                                                                                                   
Urging  the  Alaska delegation  in  Congress,  the United  States                                                               
Department of  the Interior, and  the Governor to  facilitate the                                                               
completion  of  a  land  grant endowment  to  the  University  of                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 128                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to national board certification for public                                                                     
school teachers."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 128 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HJR 13                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: COMPLETION OF UNIVERSITY LAND GRANT                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) PRUITT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
03/25/19       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/25/19       (H)       EDC, RES                                                                                               
04/22/19       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 128                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: TEACHERS: NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) KREISS-TOMKINS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
04/09/19       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/09/19       (H)       EDC, CRA                                                                                               
04/17/19       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
04/17/19       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/17/19       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LANCE PRUITT                                                                                                     
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Speaking as the sponsor,  introduced HJR 13                                                             
and answered questions.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MILES BAKER, Associate Vice President                                                                                           
Government Relations                                                                                                            
University of Alaska                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Provided   a  PowerPoint   presentation                                                             
entitled,  "University   of  Alaska  Land  Grant   Status"  dated                                                               
4/22/19, during the hearing of HJR 13.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ANDY HARRINGTON, Associate General Counsel                                                                                      
University of Alaska                                                                                                            
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Answered questions  during the  PowerPoint                                                             
presentation entitled,  "University of Alaska Land  Grant Status"                                                               
dated 4/22/19, during the hearing of HJR 13.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA CARMACK, Senior Property Manager                                                                                          
University of Alaska                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Answered questions  during the  PowerPoint                                                             
presentation entitled,  "University of Alaska Land  Grant Status"                                                               
dated 4/22/19, during the hearing of HJR 13.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN SCANLON, Staff                                                                                                             
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  On  behalf of Representative Kreiss-Tomkins,                                                             
sponsor of HB  128, answered a question during the  hearing of HB                                                               
128.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:08:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HARRIET DRUMMOND  called the  House Education  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   8:08  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
Johnson, Zulkosky, Revak,  and Drummond were present  at the call                                                               
to order.   Representative  Story arrived as  the meeting  was in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           HJR 13-COMPLETION OF UNIVERSITY LAND GRANT                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:09:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND announced the first  order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE JOINT  RESOLUTION NO. 13,  Urging the Alaska  delegation in                                                               
Congress, the United  States Department of the  Interior, and the                                                               
Governor to facilitate  the completion of a  land grant endowment                                                               
to the University of Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Due  to  recording  difficulties,  portions of  the  audio  were                                                               
lost.]                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:09:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LANCE  PRUITT, Alaska State  Legislature, informed                                                               
the committee  although the University  of Alaska (UA) is  a land                                                               
grant  university, it  has  not received  its  full allotment  of                                                               
land.   In fact,  UA is still  owed approximately  360,000 acres,                                                               
which,  if  conveyed,  would  serve  to  alleviate  some  of  the                                                               
university's  financial challenges,  as  does land  owned by  the                                                               
Alaska  Mental Health  Trust  Authority,  which generates  income                                                               
from its land to provide services  to its beneficiaries.  In 2000                                                               
and 2005,  the legislature sought  to provide land  allotments to                                                               
UA, but  its actions  were found unlawful  by the  Alaska Supreme                                                               
Court.  Therefore,  HJR  13  requests  the  Alaska  congressional                                                               
delegation work with the federal  government to complete the land                                                               
grant endowment to UA.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Due  to  recording  difficulties,  portions of  the  audio  were                                                               
lost.]                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY asked  whether the  land in  question is                                                               
federal land, and for the amount of land that would be conveyed.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT affirmed the land is federal land ....                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Due  to  recording  difficulties,  portions of  the  audio  were                                                               
lost.]                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:15:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:15 a.m. to 8:17 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON asked  about the specifics of  the land to                                                               
be conveyed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT explained the total  land grant is a little                                                               
under 105,000 acres ....                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Due  to  recording  difficulties,  portions of  the  audio  were                                                               
lost.]                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT  said  the current  and  previous  [state]                                                               
administrations have been actively pursuing this matter.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  asked how  many  other  states have  not                                                               
received their conveyance of federal land.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT  advised the majority of  other states have                                                               
received  their  federal  land  conveyances.    He  pointed  out,                                                               
especially  on  the East  Coast,  all  federal land  grants  were                                                               
conveyed  to  [institutions  of higher  education];  however,  as                                                               
western states  were granted  statehood, less  land was  given to                                                               
state  universities.   He explained  after the  [Alaska Statehood                                                               
Act] was enacted  changes were made to the  Territory of Alaska's                                                               
earlier land  grant allocations, in  a manner similar  to changes                                                               
in federal  law made by  passage of the Alaska  National Interest                                                               
Lands  Conservation  Act (ANILCA).    However,  Alaska can  still                                                               
request to change the law again  and receive the land grants that                                                               
were originally authorized to support its university system.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  surmised this  is  a  favorable time  to                                                               
approach the U.S. Department of the Interior (DOI).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT  agreed for multiple reasons:   the current                                                               
[federal] administration  is favorable  to Alaska; there  are two                                                               
U.S.  senators  representing Alaska  who  hold  positions in  key                                                               
places;  current  federal  fiscal challenges  require  states  to                                                               
"provide  for   themselves."    He  addressed the  importance  of                                                               
putting Alaska in a position to educate its students.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:23:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MILES BAKER, Associate Vice  President, Government Relations, UA,                                                               
provided  a  PowerPoint  presentation  entitled,  "University  of                                                               
Alaska Land Grant Status" dated  4/22/19.  Mr. Baker informed the                                                               
committee UA  is a land  grant university,  but out of  49 states                                                               
that received college  land grants, only Delaware  was given less                                                               
acreage  than  Alaska.   He  directed  attention  to  information                                                               
provided in  the committee packet  on the history of  land grants                                                               
dedicated to  higher education; Attachment  1 was  information on                                                               
the acreage of  all of the university land grants  allotted to 49                                                               
states [Hawai'i  received a monetary  permanent endowment].   Mr.                                                               
Baker said  a land grant  university, college, or  institution is                                                               
an entity of higher education  that has been granted federal land                                                               
so that  the entity can  raise money and establish  an endowment.                                                               
The  program was  established by  the  Morrill Act  of 1862;  the                                                               
mission  of the  act was  to spread  education in  the fields  of                                                               
agriculture,  science,  and  engineering,  and  to  develop  U.S.                                                               
western  expansion.   Currently  there  are  over 70  land  grant                                                               
institutions in the  U.S; however, under terms  within the Alaska                                                               
Statehood Act (statehood), Alaska  was not granted its allotment.                                                               
Mr.  Baker directed  attention to  slide 3  and noted  Alaska has                                                               
received   110,000  acres   of   its  entitlement   and  is   due                                                               
approximately 360,000 acres.   A permanent land  grant would help                                                               
provide an  endowment for  the university  and generate  a steady                                                               
source of income  that would reduce the amount  of funds required                                                               
from  the  state's  general  fund (GF).    However,  the  federal                                                               
government's  position is  that  the  federal responsibility  for                                                               
providing  the land  grant was  fulfilled  by the  land that  was                                                               
transferred to the state at statehood (slide 4).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:29:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BAKER  continued, noting three  pre-[Alaska]statehood federal                                                               
laws determine Alaska's  entitlement (slide 5):   the Morrill Act                                                               
of  1862, which  was revoked  at statehood;  the 1915  Wickersham                                                               
Land Grant  Statute, which  granted Alaska  336,000 acres  in the                                                               
Tanana Valley  area, of which  only 5 percent was  conveyed prior                                                               
to  its revocation  at statehood;  the 1929  Land Grant  Statute,                                                               
which  conveyed  100,000  acres  of  UA's  current  landholdings.                                                               
Attempts  by the  legislature to  provide additional  land to  UA                                                               
began  in   1959,  when  the   First  Alaska   State  Legislature                                                               
transferred  1  million acres  to  UA,  but the  legislation  was                                                               
vetoed by former Governor William  Egan; between the '60s and the                                                               
'80s,  land issues  in Alaska  were complicated  by legal  action                                                               
related to  the Alaska Native  Claims Settlement Act  (ANCSA) and                                                               
the  Alaska National  Interest Lands  Conservation Act  (ANILCA),                                                               
and  by Land  Orders imposed  by  the Bureau  of Land  Management                                                               
(BLM), DOI, related to construction  of the Trans-Alaska Pipeline                                                               
System.   In 2000,  the legislature  passed legislation  to grant                                                               
land  to UA,  which received  a  favorable ruling  by the  Alaska                                                               
Supreme  Court; in  2005, the  legislature passed  legislation to                                                               
transfer  actual pieces  of land  to UA,  however, in  2009, that                                                               
legislation was  ruled against by  the Alaska Supreme Court  as a                                                               
violation  of  the anti-dedication  clause  of  the Alaska  State                                                               
Constitution.   Currently, UA owns  about 151,000 acres  from the                                                               
1929  Land Grant  Statute, private  donations,  and land  granted                                                               
from local governments (slides 6 and 7).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:34:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BAKER noted there is  a possible solution for the legislation                                                               
that was  ruled unconstitutional:   an  exemption from  the anti-                                                               
dedication clause in the state  constitution.  He said, "There is                                                               
[an] exemption  in that -  in the  dedication clause -  that says                                                               
that  dedication, in  essence, is  allowed when  required by  the                                                               
federal  government   for  state   participation  in   a  federal                                                               
program."   So, since 2009, UA  has been working with  the Alaska                                                               
delegation to  create an applicable federal  program; however, he                                                               
restated  the federal  government's  position that  UA's land  is                                                               
included in  the federal land  that will be transferred  when the                                                               
state  makes   its  final  land  selection   from  its  remaining                                                               
entitlement  of 5  million acres  not encumbered  by public  land                                                               
orders.   In fact,  about 20  million acres could  be part  of an                                                               
agreement  between  BLM,  the  Department  of  Natural  Resources                                                               
(DNR), and UA.   The agreement would  be part of a  UA land trust                                                               
program established  by the  federal government (slide  8).    He                                                               
remarked:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     We  believe it  could  be a  robust  program that  also                                                                    
     solves  some  of  the  outstanding  administrative  and                                                                    
     other  land   issues  that  are  affecting   the  final                                                                    
     selection for the state.  So,  we see this as sort of a                                                                    
     potentially  good  impetus and  a  good  problem to  be                                                                    
     worked into that final solution  with, with the state's                                                                    
     own  land  ... selections.    We've  looked at  whether                                                                    
     there's a  need for federal legislation,  there may not                                                                    
     be a need, for that ...  but we do believe that through                                                                    
     the ...  federal land policy  management act,  which is                                                                    
     the  federal  act that  governs  how  public lands  are                                                                    
     managed by BLM, and  also some authorities ... included                                                                    
     in   ANILCA,   that   DOI   may   actually   have   the                                                                    
     administrative   authority  to   do   these  sorts   of                                                                    
     exchanges ....                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:38:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BAKER  directed attention to  slide 9 which  illustrated UA's                                                               
current  landholdings  in  the amount  of  151,000  acres;  about                                                               
12,000  acres  are  educational   land  consisting  of  campuses,                                                               
research  sites,  and other  facilities,  and  139,000 acres  are                                                               
invested in  five categories of real  estate.  He pointed  out UA                                                               
does  not hold  a  significant amount  of  land with  developable                                                               
natural resources;  most investment has been  in residential real                                                               
estate,  commercial property,  and  timber resources.   Slide  10                                                               
illustrated  historical  receipts:    since  1987,  UA  generated                                                               
$220,000  from  its  lands;  in  fiscal  year  2018  (FY  18)  UA                                                               
generated $10  million in  gross receipts,  with an  average over                                                               
the last 20  years of $8.5 million.   Slide 11 was  a graph which                                                               
illustrated "sporadic" receipts by resource category from FY 87-                                                                
FY 18; a permanent land  endowment would "smooth out that revenue                                                               
stream."   Finally, he presented  the UA Land Trust  Balance that                                                               
at the end  of FY 18 was  about $160 million, a  large portion of                                                               
which funds the  UA Scholars Program that  offers scholarships to                                                               
the top 10 percent of Alaska high school graduates (slide 12).                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:42:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY returned attention  to slide 11 and asked                                                               
if the graph shows how UA  monetizes its land to generate revenue                                                               
for the university.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BAKER  said yes.   He pointed out the  pie chart on  slide 10                                                               
illustrates  the cumulative  amount, earned  since 1987,  is $221                                                               
million, from  the following categories:   real estate, including                                                               
sales,  leases,  and  easements;   forest  timber  sales  in  the                                                               
[Tongass National  Forest]; gravel and rock  extractions; mining,                                                               
coal, oil, and gas.  Mr.  Baker further explained land and timber                                                               
sales  are predominately  a one-time  gain;  however, UA  prefers                                                               
landholdings that fit the profile  of the university and generate                                                               
income on  an ongoing basis,  such as  royalty from oil  and gas,                                                               
other property leases, or wetlands carbon banks.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY returned  attention to  slide 6,  noting                                                               
ANCSA,  characterized  in  the presentation  as  a  "complicating                                                               
[factor],"  was in  fact a  settlement of  treaty obligations  to                                                               
aboriginal land  claims which has  generated millions  of dollars                                                               
of  revenue  for  Alaska and  significant  investment  in  higher                                                               
education.  Further, ANILCA established  over 43 million acres of                                                               
new national parkland in Alaska.  She asked:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     What is the university's expectation, potentially, of                                                                      
     impacts to other federal lands or land status in order                                                                     
     to make  sure that this  land, land grant  is conveyed?                                                                    
     [Are] there going to be  impacts to other federal lands                                                                    
     in  Alaska  as  a  result  of  any  potential  acts  of                                                                    
     Congress?                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BAKER responded:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     I think  we certainly understand ...  under the broader                                                                    
     sort  of feeling  in Congress,  and within  the federal                                                                    
     land managers,  that probably no, no  new federal land,                                                                    
     no  new  additive federal  land  would  come to  Alaska                                                                    
     through this  program ... we don't  anticipate the feds                                                                    
     deciding  that,  we know,  we  should  get ...  360,000                                                                    
     acres of  federal land that  exists in Alaska,  that it                                                                    
     is  not due  to  someone else  already,  or to  another                                                                    
     organization.  We  do believe that there  are things we                                                                    
     have in our portfolio that are  to the, could be to the                                                                    
     benefit  of the  federal government  and the  public at                                                                    
     large.  Whether that's our  park inholdings - we've got                                                                    
     several  inholdings  in  national parks  -  that  sound                                                                    
     great, but  they're very remote, very  hard to develop.                                                                    
     It's  a  small  market  of folks  that  might  even  be                                                                    
     interested ... but the federal  government, I think, is                                                                    
     interested in  them ... potentially being  able to more                                                                    
     effectively   manage   those   national  parks   in   a                                                                    
     contiguous fashion.   ...  We think  there actually may                                                                    
     be sort  of mutual benefits  there, but I think  it, it                                                                    
     will largely  depend on what  land, what land  we would                                                                    
     end up negotiating  with DNR.  We  anticipate that it's                                                                    
     principally going to be state  land or land owed to the                                                                    
     state  through  their  final five  million  settlement.                                                                    
     But where  those lands  are and  how they  might impact                                                                    
     other  adjacent property  owners, that  sort of  thing,                                                                    
     I'm not sure we know yet.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:50:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDY HARRINGTON,  Associate General Counsel, UA,  agreed with Mr.                                                               
Baker.  He opined UA is  offering a simple proposal that will not                                                               
require federal legislation  or the need to  revisit any previous                                                               
decision by  Congress.  He surmised  the idea is to  get the land                                                               
grant "gap"  filled, using  lands that  are due  to the  state as                                                               
much as possible.  Mr. Harrington  said UA would avoid lands that                                                               
are  in dispute  between the  state and  Native corporations,  or                                                               
other  controversial  issues, and  seeks  to  fill the  gap  with                                                               
noncontroversial land.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:51:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON returned  attention to  slide 11,  noting                                                               
the  [University of  Alaska Fairbanks  (UAF)] agricultural  farm,                                                               
and the  Trunk Road property,  were large tracts of  federal land                                                               
that were granted  to UA for experimental  farms and agriculture,                                                               
but were sold because of their  monetary value.  She asked, if UA                                                               
is granted more federal land, whether  the land would be used for                                                               
educational or  resource development  purposes, or would  be sold                                                               
to generate revenue.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BAKER related UA seeks to manage  its land as a trust so that                                                               
receipts earned  from the sale  of real estate would  be returned                                                               
to the trust  to fund UA operations and programs  - some of which                                                               
are  related  to  natural  resource development  -  in  order  to                                                               
establish  a  connection   between  educational  programming  and                                                               
resource  revenue  in support  of  educational  programming.   He                                                               
opined the aforementioned sales were  of land that was in demand,                                                               
with the intent to balance  UA's portfolio and thereby reduce its                                                               
dependence on state GF.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:56:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  CARMACK,  Senior  Property   Manager,  UA,  confirmed  the                                                               
aforementioned  properties  were  sold in  response  to  industry                                                               
need; however, UA's focus is  now on resource development and the                                                               
properties currently  owned by UA in  the Matanuska-Susitna (Mat-                                                               
Su) area are mostly educational land.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  pointed  out several  [UA]  agricultural                                                               
holdings  and projects  in Mat-Su  are being  transferred to  UAF                                                               
even  though  Mat-Su   is  the  only  location   for  a  thriving                                                               
agricultural  and  educational  facility.     She  asked  whether                                                               
additional UA  holdings in Mat-Su  will be sold because  of their                                                               
value.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  recalled the Fairbanks area  was once entirely                                                               
self-supporting through agriculture.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BAKER offered to provide  further information related to UA's                                                               
short-term plans  for its experimental  farm that is part  of the                                                               
UAF extension  program.  He  acknowledged portions of  the Mat-Su                                                               
properties  were  primarily sold  to  accommodate  the growth  of                                                               
transportation corridors and the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  returned  to  slide  11  and  questioned                                                               
whether  UA  seeks  to  sell  its property  or  turn  to  "active                                                               
resource development," such as oil and gas leasing, on its land.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BAKER related  UA is  currently conducting  a review  of its                                                               
land  and  will  further  discuss  with DNR  the  land  that  was                                                               
[transferred]  by the  legislature in  2005 and  returned to  the                                                               
state in 2010;  he advised - generally - UA  is interested in the                                                               
same sort of  revenue-generating land as the  state; for example,                                                               
UA's preference  is to  maintain landholdings  that have  oil and                                                               
gas, mineral, and mining potential.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON urged  UA to  seek and  manage land  that                                                               
produces income from resource development.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:02:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  encouraged Mr. Baker to  review the continuity                                                               
of  services  to Southcentral  that  are  delivered from  the  UA                                                               
cooperative extension service office in Fairbanks.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REVAK asked  whether there  are other  sources of                                                               
real estate income,  in addition to sales, such  as commercial or                                                               
residential rent and leases, and if so, the amount thereof.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARMACK explained  the revenue generated from the  sale of UA                                                               
property, leasing,  and permitting activity is  included on slide                                                               
11.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Due to  recording difficulties some  portions of the  audio were                                                               
lost.]                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REVAK  inquired  as  to the  percentage  of  real                                                               
estate revenue earned by leasing and permit activity.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARMACK  said currently the  majority is permit  activity and                                                               
leasing;  the  majority of  leasing  revenue  is from  commercial                                                               
office space  leasing and leasing  of land throughout  the state.                                                               
In  further  response to  Representative  Revak,  she offered  to                                                               
provide the percentage of real  estate revenue from lands that UA                                                               
has retained.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:07:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY asked  how the UA land grant  "dovetails with land                                                               
grants  for  K-12  schools."    She  recalled  K-12  schools  are                                                               
entitled to land that has not  been acquired because the land was                                                               
never surveyed.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARRINGTON affirmed public school  land grants and university                                                               
land grants  began with  the 1915  Wickersham Land  Grant Statute                                                               
which  set aside  one  section  in each  township  of the  Tanana                                                               
Valley  [survey] "rectangle"  and two  sections in  each township                                                               
throughout the territory for public  school lands.  Subsequently,                                                               
the two  issues diverged;  in 1978,  the legislature  changed the                                                               
public school land sections into  general land grants and instead                                                               
gave  the public  schools  a  revenue stream:    one-half of  one                                                               
percent  of  all  revenue  generated  from  resource  development                                                               
throughout the  state.   Although UA was  given the  same option,                                                               
the UA  Board of Regents decided  not to accept.   Also, in 1980,                                                               
ANILCA  included  an  additional  75,000 acres  of  federal  land                                                               
specifically to  fulfil the remaining  school land trust  but did                                                               
not  address the  UA land  grant gap.   In  response to  Co-Chair                                                               
Drummond, he  said further information on  legislation related to                                                               
UA could be found in the committee packet.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:10:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  opened  public  testimony on  HJR  13.    She                                                               
announced HJR 13 was held over with public testimony open.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
         HB 128-TEACHERS: NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFICATION                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:11:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND announced the final  order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.   128,  "An  Act  relating   to  national  board                                                               
certification for public school teachers."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY  referred  to   discussions  [subsequent  to  the                                                               
4/17/19 bill  hearing] about adding  funding to HB 128  and asked                                                               
for an update from the sponsor.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:13:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  SCANLON,  Staff,  Representative  Jonathan  Kreiss-Tomkins,                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature,  said  discussions  are underway  with                                                               
education advocates  across the state and  with legislators about                                                               
sources   of   funding   that  would   not   require   additional                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:13:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STORY moved  to report  HB  128 out  of committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  zero  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There being no objection,  HB 128 was reported out of the                                                               
House Education Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:14:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 9:14 a.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB128 Response to H EDC Committee questions 4.20.19 (002).pdf HEDC 4/22/2019 8:00:00 AM
HB 128
HJR 13 2019 Presentation House Education UA Lands.pdf HEDC 4/22/2019 8:00:00 AM
HJR 13