05/03/2004 08:10 AM House CRA
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS
STANDING COMMITTEE
May 3, 2004
8:10 a.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Carl Morgan, Chair
Representative Kelly Wolf, Vice Chair
Representative Ralph Samuels
Representative Sharon Cissna
Representative Albert Kookesh
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Pete Kott
Representative Tom Anderson
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 190(STA)
"An Act adding certain state-owned land and water to the Kenai
River Special Management Area; relating to the mineral estate of
the state-owned land and water in the Kenai River Special
Management Area; relating to the Kenai River Special Management
Area advisory board; and providing for an effective date."
- MOVED HCS CSSB 190(CRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 382(CRA) am
"An Act relating to replat approval; relating to the platting of
right-of-way acquired through eminent domain proceedings; and
providing for an effective date."
- SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD
SENATE BILL NO. 387 am
"An Act authorizing the making of certain commercial fishing
loans to eligible community quota entities for the purchase of
certain fishing quota shares; and providing for an effective
date."
- SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: SB 190
SHORT TITLE: KENAI RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA
SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S) WAGONER
04/16/03 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
04/16/03 (S) STA, RES
01/20/04 (S) STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211
01/20/04 (S) Moved CSSB 190(STA) Out of Committee
01/20/04 (S) MINUTE(STA)
01/21/04 (S) STA RPT CS 3DP 1NR NEW TITLE
01/21/04 (S) DP: STEVENS G, COWDERY, STEDMAN;
01/21/04 (S) NR: GUESS
02/16/04 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
02/16/04 (S) Heard & Held
02/16/04 (S) MINUTE(RES)
02/27/04 (S) RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205
02/27/04 (S) Moved CSSB 190(STA) Out of Committee
02/27/04 (S) MINUTE(RES)
03/01/04 (S) RES RPT CS(STA) 3DP 1NR
03/01/04 (S) DP: OGAN, STEVENS B, SEEKINS; NR: ELTON
03/05/04 (S) TRANSMITTED TO (H)
03/05/04 (S) VERSION: CSSB 190(STA)
03/08/04 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
03/08/04 (H) CRA, RES
03/23/04 (H) CRA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 124
03/23/04 (H) Heard & Held <Assigned to Subcmte>
03/23/04 (H) MINUTE(CRA)
04/29/04 (H) CRA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 124
04/29/04 (H) Subcommittee Meeting
04/29/04 (H) MINUTE(CRA)
05/03/04 (H) CRA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 124
WITNESS REGISTER
AMY SEITZ, Staff
to Senator Thomas Wagoner
Alaska State Legislature
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke on behalf of the sponsor of SB 190.
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 04-17, SIDE A
Number 0001
CHAIR CARL MORGAN called the House Community and Regional
Affairs Standing Committee meeting to order at 8:10 a.m.
Representatives Morgan, Wolf, Samuels, and Kookesh were present
at the call to order. Representative Cissna arrived as the
meeting was in progress.
SB 190-KENAI RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA
CHAIR MORGAN announced that the first order of business would be
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 190(STA), "An Act adding certain state-
owned land and water to the Kenai River Special Management Area;
relating to the mineral estate of the state-owned land and water
in the Kenai River Special Management Area; relating to the
Kenai River Special Management Area advisory board; and
providing for an effective date."
Number 0044
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF moved that the committee [move] HCS CSSB
190, Version 23-LS0961\Q, Bullock, 4/28/04, [out of the
subcommittee and] adopt it as the working document. There being
no objection, Version Q was before the committee.
Number 0121
AMY SEITZ, Staff to Senator Thomas Wagoner, Alaska State
Legislature, related her observation that the only change
encompassed in Version Q is in Section 4. She further related
that the sponsor is happy with Version Q.
CHAIR MORGAN informed the committee that there will be an
amendment offered that would delete Section 4. He asked if Ms.
Seitz had any objections to such an amendment.
MS. SEITZ said that she had no comment.
CHAIR MORGAN, upon determining there was no one who wished to
testify, closed public testimony.
Number 0262
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF moved that the committee adopt the following
amendment [Amendment 1]:
Page 5, line 11;
Delete "not"
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS objected, and inquired as to how many
members currently represent agencies. He inquired as to whether
the local community members should be the members with the
voice.
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF answered that currently there are five
members who represent agencies on the Kenai River Special
Management Area (KRSMA) Advisory Board. He noted that one
member of the KRSMA Advisory Board is a resident of Cooper
Landing who happens to also work for the Alaska Department of
Fish & Game (ADF&G). The concern is that if that individual is
removed from the advisory board, then Cooper Landing wouldn't
have a voice on the KRSMA Advisory Board. There is also concern
that there is a large portion of property that is owned by state
and federal agencies, and therefore removing the voting ability
of those members (indisc.-paper shuffling), which isn't desired.
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS surmised that the amendment would fix the
Cooper Landing problem.
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF confirmed that it would.
MS. SEITZ, in response to Representative Samuels, specified that
there are eight agency representatives on the KRSMA Advisory
Board, with three of those coming from the municipalities.
There are a total of 17 members on the KRSMA Advisory Board.
Number 0520
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS inquired as to the sponsor's position on
language specifying that the "agency representatives" couldn't
hold a majority of the seats on the KRSMA Advisory Board.
MS. SEITZ related that the sponsor would like for the agency
members of the KRSMA Advisory Board to be ex officio members.
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF highlighted that currently the KRSMA
Advisory Board consists of members from various agencies and
community members. These members are managing 84 miles of the
Kenai River, which is a critical habitat area within a state
park. Representative Wolf opined that he wants the KRSMA
Advisory Board to be comprised of experienced individuals as
well as public individuals. He said the current makeup of the
board is good. Therefore, he viewed removing the [voting rights
of] agency members as taking away the agency representation [and
expertise].
Number 0152
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS opined that if almost half the members
are representing agencies, then it doesn't seem to be that much
of a community advisory board. However, he didn't believe that
an appointed individual who happens to be an employee of an
agency should be penalized because of his or her employer. He
inquired as to the possibility of limiting the number of agency
representatives because, based on his experience with various
organizations, he believes that the agency representatives are
"driving the bus."
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA asked if these agency representatives
actually reside in the community.
MS. SEITZ acknowledged that the KRSMA Advisory Board members can
be from Anchorage and anywhere around the state. She pointed
out that the KRSMA Advisory Board met on this legislation and
voted 10:3 in favor of CSSB 190(STA), which makes the agency
members ex officio members.
Number 0932
REPRESENTATIVE KOOKESH questioned why there is such concern with
this since the organization is an advisory board. He said that
he didn't know of many advisory boards that have that much
authority or power.
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF explained that currently two ADF&G
representatives on the KRSMA Advisory Board are from Anchorage.
The U.S. Forest Service representative is from Cooper Landing.
The U.S. Fish & Wildlife representative is a resident of the
Kenai Peninsula. Representative Wolf explained that making the
agency members ex officio would remove the position that the
individual from Cooper Landing holds because he works for ADF&G
during the summer. Therefore, the Cooper Landing/Kenai Lake
area wouldn't have representation on the KRSMA Advisory Board.
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS maintained his objection to Amendment 1.
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Kookesh, Wolf,
Cissna, and Morgan voted in favor of Amendment 1.
Representatives Anderson and Samuels voted against it.
Therefore, Amendment 1 was adopted by a vote of 4-2.
Number 1217
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF moved to report HCS CSSB 190, Version 23-
LS0961\Q, Bullock, 4/28/04, as amended, out of committee with
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.
There being no objection, HCS CSSB 190(CRA) was reported from
the House Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was recessed to the call of the chair at 8:25 a.m.
[This meeting did not reconvene.]
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