02/06/1998 08:06 AM House CRA
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        HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                   
                 STANDING COMMITTEE                                            
                  February 6, 1998                                             
                     8:06 a.m.                                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                
                                                                               
Representative Ivan Ivan, Chairman                                             
Representative Fred Dyson                                                      
Representative Scott Ogan                                                      
Representative Jerry Sanders                                                   
Representative Albert Kookesh                                                  
Representative Reggie Joule                                                    
                                                                               
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                 
                                                                               
Representative Joe Ryan                                                        
                                                                               
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                             
                                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 336                                                             
"An Act relating to eligibility for power cost equalization."                  
                                                                               
     - MOVED CSHB 336(CRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                    
                                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 337                                                             
"An Act making a special appropriation for the Power Creek                     
hydroelectric facility; and providing for an effective date."                  
                                                                               
     - MOVED CSHB 337(CRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                    
                                                                               
(* First public hearing)                                                       
                                                                               
PREVIOUS ACTION                                                                
                                                                               
BILL: HB 336                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: ELIGIBILITY FOR POWER COST EQUALIZATION                           
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVES(S) KUBINA, Kott                                    
                                                                               
Jrn-Date    Jrn-Page           Action                                          
01/20/98      2090     (H)  READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRAL(S)                  
01/20/98      2090     (H)  CRA, JUDICIARY, FINANCE                            
02/04/98               (H)  CRA AT  8:00 AM CAPITOL 124                        
02/04/98               (H)  MINUTE(CRA)                                        
02/06/98               (H)  CRA AT  8:00 AM CAPITOL 124                        
                                                                               
BILL: HB 337                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: POWER CREEK HYDRO PROJECT IN CORDOVA                              
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVES(S) KUBINA                                          
                                                                               
Jrn-Date    Jrn-Page           Action                                          
01/20/98      2090     (H)  READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRAL(S)                  
01/20/98      2090     (H)  CRA, FINANCE                                       
02/04/98               (H)  CRA AT  8:00 AM CAPITOL 124                        
02/04/98               (H)  MINUTE(CRA)                                        
02/06/98               (H)  CRA AT  8:00 AM CAPITOL 124                        
                                                                               
WITNESS REGISTER                                                               
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE GENE KUBINA                                                     
Alaska State Legislature                                                       
Capitol Building, Room 404                                                     
Juneau, Alaska 99801                                                           
Telephone:  (907) 465-4859                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT:  Sponsor of HB 336 and HB 337.                             
                                                                               
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                               
                                                                               
TAPE 98-9, SIDE A                                                              
Number 0001                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN IVAN IVAN called the House Community and Regional Affairs             
Standing Committee meeting to order at 8:06 a.m.  Members present              
at the call to order were Representatives Ivan, Dyson, Sanders,                
Kookesh and Joule.  Representative Ogan arrived at 8:10 a.m.                   
                                                                               
HB 336 - ELIGIBILITY FOR POWER COST EQUALIZATION                               
HB 337 - POWER CREEK HYDRO PROJECT IN CORDOVA                                  
                                                                               
Number 0042                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN IVAN indicated the committee would hear HB 336, "An Act               
relating to eligibility for power cost equalization," and HB 337               
"An Act making a special appropriation for the Power Creek                     
hydroelectric facility; and providing for an effective date."  He              
stated the committee has already adopted a proposed committee                  
substitute (CS), 0-LS1133\B, for HB 337.  He said there is a                   
proposed CS, 0-LS1132\B, for HB 336.  He said it incorporates a                
conceptual amendment that was adopted at the previous meeting on               
Wednesday, February 4, 1998.  The amendment is on page 1, line 10,             
after "hydroelectric generation facility," the phrase "or other                
electric generation facility that is not powered by diesel fuel,"              
was added.  He said he would entertain a motion to adopt the                   
proposed CS for HB 336, dated February 5, 1998.                                
                                                                               
Number 0136                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE JERRY SANDERS moved to adopt the proposed CS for HB
336.                                                                           
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN IVAN asked if there was an objection.  Hearing none, CSHB
336, 0-LS1132\B, was adopted.                                                  
                                                                               
Number 0173                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS asked if the money will come from the                   
general fund.                                                                  
                                                                               
Number 0199                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE GENE KUBINA confirmed that the bill says the money              
will come out of the general fund.  He said his thought was to get             
an appropriation bill up to the House Finance Committee to debate              
that issue.  He said he assumes the appropriation portion of the               
bill will never pass.  If the body decided to appropriate any                  
money, it would end up in the budget bill.  He stated the bill is              
a vehicle to discuss the legislation.                                          
                                                                               
Number 0248                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS said with that understanding, he intends to             
vote to move the legislation.  He said, "I don't want my vote to be            
interpreted as supporting this over $100 million worth of other                
things that the Governor has put in this year.  It's going to have             
to fight its way through and we'll see where it comes towards the              
top whether I vote on it or not."                                              
                                                                               
Number 0287                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KOOKESH said the appropriate place to discuss the               
money impact is in the Finance Committee and he believes the House             
Community and Regional Affairs Committee members have done their               
job by making sure the appropriate amendment is included.                      
                                                                               
Number 0315                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN IVAN said he would entertain a motion to move CSHB 336                
from committee.  He noted in order to do that, the committee needs             
to rescind action in failing to move HB 336 out of committee.                  
                                                                               
Number 0341                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS made a motion to rescind the action in                  
failing to move HB 336 out of committee.  There being no objection,            
it was so ordered.                                                             
                                                                               
Number 0379                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS made a motion to move HB 336, as amended,               
out of committee.                                                              
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN IVAN asked if there was an objection.  There being no                 
objection, CSHB 336(CRA) moved out of the House Community and                  
Regional Affairs  Committee.                                                   
                                                                               
Number 0433                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS made a motion to move HB 337 out of                     
committee with individual recommendations.                                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE OGAN objected.                                                  
                                                                               
Number 0468                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KUBINA said, "Representative Ogan wasn't here when              
we -- when Representative Sanders brought the point before us, so              
we might just reiterate it for him.  The reason that this bill is              
even in - there is no thought of this bill ever passing.  It's just            
a mechanism to discuss the appropriation and if there would be an              
appropriation, if the legislature did want to do this, it would be             
something that would be incorporated in the budget.  It would not              
be something that would be passed as this bill.  So it's just a                
mechanism to put it in front of the legislature or in front of the             
Finance Committee.  The program, because it hasn't been there                  
before as a bill, and then the appropriation bill -- but it's not              
something that by the committee moving out we'd expect any of you              
to certainly vote for anything, but it would be part of a overall              
budget if the legislators decided to put any money towards the                 
program."                                                                      
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN IVAN asked Representative Ogan if he still maintains his              
objection.                                                                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE OGAN indicated he still maintains his objection.                
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken.  Representatives Kookesh, Dyson,                   
Sanders, Joule and Ivan voted in favor of moving the bill.                     
Representative Ogan voted against moving the bill.                             
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN IVAN indicated CSHB 337(CRA) moved out of the House                   
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee with the attached            
fiscal note.                                                                   
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN IVAN discussed the committee agenda for the following                 
week.                                                                          
                                                                               
ADJOURNMENT                                                                    
                                                                               
Number 0694                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN IVAN adjourned the House Community and Regional Affairs               
Standing Committee at 8:15 a.m.                                                
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