Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

04/06/2021 08:00 AM COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

Note: the audio and video recordings are distinct records and are obtained from different sources. As such there may be key differences between the two. The audio recordings are captured by our records offices as the official record of the meeting and will have more accurate timestamps. Use the icons to switch between them.

Download Mp3. <- Right click and save file as

* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HJR 14 RESOLUTION: FED SAFE BANKING ACT/CANNABIS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HJR 14 Out of Committee
+= HB 22 SHARED ANIMAL AND RAW MILK/PRODUCTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 22 Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                         April 6, 2021                                                                                          
                           8:02 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sara Hannan, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Josiah Patkotak, Vice Chair                                                                                      
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Ken McCarty                                                                                                      
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 14                                                                                                   
Supporting the passage by the  United States Congress of the SAFE                                                               
Banking Act  of 2019, sec. 110606  of the Heroes Act,  or similar                                                               
legislation relating  to cannabis-related  legitimate businesses'                                                               
access to financial services.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HJR 14 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 22                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to shared animal ownership; and relating to the                                                                
sharing and sale of raw milk and raw milk products."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 22 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HJR 14                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RESOLUTION: FED SAFE BANKING ACT/CANNABIS                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) RASMUSSEN                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
03/05/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/05/21       (H)       CRA                                                                                                    
04/01/21       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/01/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/01/21       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
04/06/21       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  22                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SHARED ANIMAL AND RAW MILK/PRODUCTS                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) TARR                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/8/21                                                                                
02/18/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/18/21       (H)       CRA, RES                                                                                               
03/30/21       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/30/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/30/21       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
04/06/21       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GERAN TARR                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime  sponsor, answered questions during                                                             
the hearing on HJR 14.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:02:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CALVIN  SCHRAGE called the House  Community and Regional                                                             
Affairs  Standing  Committee  meeting   to  order  at  8:02  a.m.                                                               
Representatives  McCarty,  Drummond,  Prax, McCabe,  Hannan,  and                                                               
Schrage  were  present at  the  call  to order.    Representative                                                               
Patkotak arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        HJR 14-RESOLUTION: FED SAFE BANKING ACT/CANNABIS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:03:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCHRAGE  announced that  the  first  order of  business                                                               
would be  HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 14, Supporting  the passage                                                               
by the  United States Congress of  the SAFE Banking Act  of 2019,                                                               
sec. 110606  of the Heroes  Act, or similar  legislation relating                                                               
to  cannabis-related legitimate  businesses' access  to financial                                                               
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:04:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN moved  to report  HJR 14  out of  committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being  no objection, HJR 14  was reported out of  the House                                                               
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:05:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:05 a.m. to 8:07 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           HB 22-SHARED ANIMAL AND RAW MILK/PRODUCTS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:07:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCHRAGE  announced that  the  final  order of  business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  22, "An  Act relating to  shared animal                                                               
ownership; and relating  to the sharing and sale of  raw milk and                                                               
raw milk products."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCHRAGE noted  this was  the second  hearing of  HB 22,                                                               
public testimony  had been closed  previously, and there  were no                                                               
amendments to be offered.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:08:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE shared  he had just visited  a [herd share]                                                               
goat farm outside  of Big Lake, Alaska, and  after witnessing the                                                               
sanitized  process  of  milking  the  goats,  he  was  "favorably                                                               
impressed."  He said if this  farm is a representation of others,                                                               
then "the milk share folks are  doing what they're supposed to be                                                               
doing" in terms of [protecting] the health of their customers.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:09:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  asked whether  passage  of  HB 22  might                                                               
result in increased food security in the state.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:10:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GERAN TARR,  Alaska State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor  of HB  22, answered  yes.   She said  HB 22  would allow                                                               
farmers  additional  opportunities  "to build  their  herd  share                                                               
programs,"  give  Alaskans  the  access  to  fresh,  Alaska-grown                                                               
products, and grow  the state's economy through  support of small                                                               
businesses.  In response to  a follow-up question, said there are                                                               
people already engaged  in producing food for  animals, and there                                                               
is an  opportunity for  growth there.   She noted  that currently                                                               
the  Alaska Food  Policy Council  and the  Alaska Farmers  Market                                                               
Association  are  working  together   to  consider  all  factors,                                                               
including the food supply chain.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  expressed his  concern for  Alaska's food                                                               
security.   He said he has  heard there are fields  that have not                                                               
been sowed for years, and  he encouraged getting "all these crops                                                               
going" to store food for animals.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:13:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE proffered that the  farm he had visited had                                                               
about 40  head and 16  milking goats,  and it goes  through 1,300                                                               
bales a year; Alaska Mill and  Feed gets "an inordinate amount of                                                               
business  from these  folks."   He pointed  out one  advantage of                                                               
turning milk into  cheese, for example, is that  then the product                                                               
can be  stored longer.   He  predicted that  HB 22  would support                                                               
that.   He indicated that 1,300  bales for 40 head  would have "a                                                               
trickle-down economic effect to other farmers."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:15:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  related that  his neighbor's goats  help out                                                               
by eating an invasive weed that grows on his property.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:15:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN  opined a  shorter  supply  chain would  benefit                                                               
Alaska.  She  noted that when the legislature is  not in session,                                                               
the  sponsor's  staff, Thatcher  Brouwer,  makes  a living  as  a                                                               
fisherman, selling  his product to  consumers.  She  stated, "The                                                               
consumer side  of the market  is just  as labor intensive  as the                                                               
production side  of the market,  whether you're a fisherman  or a                                                               
farmer."  She  said over the last 50 years,  the supply chain has                                                               
become more of  an industrial model.  She  suggested that because                                                               
Alaska is  decentralized, shortening  the supply chain  is easier                                                               
to do.  She said she looks forward  to the day she can be part of                                                               
a  herd  share in  Southeast  Alaska  and  gave examples  of  the                                                               
locally  produced products  she does  buy in  other parts  of the                                                               
state.   She advised when  buying local products, a  person knows                                                               
the source, which makes it possible to trace back any problems.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:19:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE added  to  Co-Chair  Hannan's comments  by                                                               
offered his understanding that the  reason for pasteurization and                                                               
homogenization  had to  do  with the  lengthening  of the  supply                                                               
chain, in about 1910.  He concurred that shortening the supply                                                                  
chain is beneficial.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:20:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCHRAGE thanked the bill sponsor for her work to "free                                                                 
the cheese."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:20:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN moved  to report  HB  22 out  of committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being  no objection, HB  22 was  reported out of  the House                                                               
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:21:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee meeting was                                                                   
adjourned at 8:21 a.m.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR14 - Sponsor Statement 3.9.21.pdf HCRA 4/1/2021 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR014A.PDF HCRA 4/1/2021 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Zero Fiscal Note.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 - Letter of Support AKBA 3.16.2021.pdf HCRA 4/1/2021 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 - Letter of Support - Division of Banking & Securities 3.11.21.pdf HCRA 4/1/2021 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 Support Letter - East Rip.pdf HCRA 4/1/2021 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HJR 14 - Supporting Documents - New York governor signs bill legalizing recreational marijuana for adults 21 and older - CNN.pdf HCRA 4/1/2021 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HJR 14
HB 22 Sponsor Statement - Version A 1.28.21.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HRES 4/16/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 22
HB 22 Sectional Analysis- Version A 1.20.21.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HRES 4/16/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 22
HB22 Zero Fiscal Note DEC.pdf HCRA 3/30/2021 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 22
HB 22 Supporting Document - Foodborne Illness and Complaint Reports Summary, Alaska 2015-2017 9.27.18.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HRES 4/16/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 22
HB 22 Supporting Document - Foodborne Outbreaks in Alaska 4.17.19.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HRES 4/16/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 22
HB 22 Letters of Support 3.10.21.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 22
HB 22 Emails in Support 2.22.21.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HRES 4/16/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 22
HB 22 Supporting Document - Foodborne Illness and Complaint Reports Summary, Alaska 2015-2017 9.27.18.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 22
HB 22 Supporting Document - Memo Summarizing Herd Share Research by Farm Attorney Pete Kennedy 9.28.18.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HRES 4/16/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 22
HB 22 Letters of Support 3.10.21.pdf HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 22
HB 22 Additional Support Emails 3.29.21.pdf HCRA 3/30/2021 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 4/6/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 22