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03/08/2018 08:00 AM COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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08:02:30 AM Start
08:03:05 AM HCR19
10:10:22 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HCR 19 GOVERNOR: AK NATIVE LANGUAGES EMERGENCY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHCR 19(CRA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                         March 8, 2018                                                                                          
                           8:02 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Justin Parish, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative John Lincoln                                                                                                     
Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                  
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins (alternate)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Zach Fansler                                                                                                     
Representative David Talerico                                                                                                   
Representative DeLena Johnson (alternate)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 19                                                                                              
Urging Governor Bill Walker to issue an administrative order                                                                    
recognizing a linguistic emergency.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHCR 19(CRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HCR 19                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: GOVERNOR: AK NATIVE LANGUAGES EMERGENCY                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) ORTIZ                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/16/18       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/16/18       (H)       CRA                                                                                                    
03/06/18       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/06/18       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/06/18       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
03/08/18       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SIDNEY HARTLEY                                                                                                                  
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HCR 19.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DAVID ROBERT BOXLEY, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Haayk Foundation                                                                                                                
Metlakatla, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HCR 19.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
EVON PETER                                                                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on HCR 19.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ALICE TAFF, Ph.D.                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on HCR 19.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PAUL MARLES                                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of [HCR] 19.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
GAVIN HUDSON, Chair                                                                                                             
Haayk Foundation                                                                                                                
Metlakatla, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on HCR 19.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HATTIE KELLER                                                                                                                   
Kawerak Inc                                                                                                                     
City & State                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HCR 19.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DAVID NEES                                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on HCR 19.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ALLAN HAYTON, Director                                                                                                          
Language Revitalization Program                                                                                                 
Doyon Foundation                                                                                                                
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HCR 19.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LACEY WILSON                                                                                                                    
Metlakatla, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified regarding the marginalization of                                                               
languages during the hearing on HCR 19.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JODIE GATTI, Staff                                                                                                              
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Answered  a   question  on   behalf  of                                                             
Representative Ortiz, prime sponsor of HCR 19.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAN ORTIZ                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    As  prime  sponsor  of  HCR  19,  offered                                                             
feedback on proposed amendments.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:02:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR JUSTIN  PARISH called the  House Community  and Regional                                                             
Affairs  Standing  Committee  meeting   to  order  at  8:02  a.m.                                                               
Representatives   Drummond,  Lincoln,   Rauscher,  Kreiss-Tomkins                                                               
(alternate),  and  Parish were  present  at  the call  to  order.                                                               
Representative Saddler arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
         HCR 19-GOVERNOR: AK NATIVE LANGUAGES EMERGENCY                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:03:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  CONCURRENT RESOLUTION  NO.  19,  Urging Governor  Bill                                                               
Walker to issue an administrative  order recognizing a linguistic                                                               
emergency.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH announced  that the  committee would  [continue]                                                               
public testimony [which had been  left open from the 3/6/18 House                                                               
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee meeting].                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:04:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SIDNEY HARTLEY  testified in  Tlingit and  English.   She related                                                               
that she is learning Tlingit.   She thanked proponents of  HCR 19                                                               
and expressed gratitude for the  privilege of learning Tlingit at                                                               
the  University of  Alaska  Southeast (UAS).    She continued  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      This coastal sanctuary I've come to call my home for                                                                      
      the last eight years is overflowing with opportunity                                                                      
     and resources to sustain the  languages and cultures of                                                                    
     its very soul - the people.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARTLEY  said she  is  Swiss.   Her  great-grandfather,  who                                                               
immigrated  to  the  United  States  in  1910,  could  not  speak                                                               
English, and "it  was his journey to learn a  new language, a new                                                               
custom, in a place  not his own."  She opined  that those who are                                                               
non-Native  must "dive  into  the lush  ocean  of languages  that                                                               
surround us before we can call this place our home."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARTLEY  said  currently  Alaska  legislation  defines  what                                                               
Native  Alaskans can  "sustain themselves  with," where  they can                                                               
build  their homes,  and  what they  can learn  in  school.   She                                                               
continued:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  so-called   New  World   has  been   branded  with                                                                    
     profitable opportunities  since its  first introduction                                                                    
     to  European  explorers.    Stumbling  upon  aboriginal                                                                    
     settlers, however,  presented no obstacle  and inspired                                                                    
     no  moral code  amid discovery  of a  presently claimed                                                                    
     land.   Subsequently,  colonization  of the  Nineteenth                                                                    
     Century orchestrated mass  invasions of Europeans where                                                                    
     they embezzled American soil by  changing the label and                                                                    
     since  then have  taken it  upon  themselves to  define                                                                    
     what it  means to  be an  American.   Alaska, likewise,                                                                    
     has  been  the foster  child  of  such broken  systems,                                                                    
     bounced back  and forth  between the  hands not  of its                                                                    
     ancestors but the intruder, that is:  white culture.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARTLEY  stated that  Alaska  legislation  has maintained  a                                                               
fa?ade "by dangling  a white flag in the form  of money and false                                                               
promises."   She cited  an article in  the Anchorage  Daily News,                                                             
written  by Erica  Martinson, which  reports that  "Alaska Native                                                               
children  account  for  55 percent  of  the  state's  out-of-home                                                               
foster  care  placements."   She  added,  "A  tool in  which  the                                                               
government sought to eliminate indigenous  languages in the first                                                               
place."  She  stated that forty years after  the establishment of                                                               
the 1978  Indian Child  Welfare Act, the  needs of  Alaska Native                                                               
children are  still not being  met because legislators  refuse to                                                               
address  the underlying  issues  that uprooted  the ancestors  of                                                               
those children.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARTLEY said her language  teacher reiterates that "knowledge                                                               
is embedded in  the language."  She proffered  that to understand                                                               
concepts in  history, art, and  familial values, it  is necessary                                                               
to understand  the words upon  which they  were built.   She said                                                               
historical trauma  "evidences a  brutal misconception"  of Native                                                               
Alaska cultures,  and she questioned  how, if people  continue to                                                               
ignore this  devastation, society  is any  different from  how it                                                               
was prior  to 1976  "when we punished  pride and  ripped children                                                               
from their mothers  in exchange for English words  and a boarding                                                               
school  education.    Ms. Hartley  stated  that  unlike  English,                                                               
indigenous  languages have  words that  represent entire  phrases                                                               
and "provide a  meaningful, emotional context."   She shared that                                                               
learning the  Tlingit language  has brought  her a  more profound                                                               
understanding  and  appreciation of  the  Tlingit  culture.   The                                                               
language has benefited other areas  of her studies; it allows her                                                               
different perspectives  and the  ability to "make  connections in                                                               
previously taught concepts."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARTLEY said studies have shown  that children who grow up in                                                               
bilingual  households   have  improved  cognitive,   social,  and                                                               
emotional  development.   She  said  she  sees no  evidence  that                                                               
suggests  a negative  outcome in  passing HCR  19.   Further, she                                                               
said,  "The need  for an  official apology  is an  understatement                                                               
...."  She again urged passage of  HCR 19 as "one step of many in                                                               
the right direction."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:09:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  ROBERT  BOXLEY,  Co-Chair,  Haayk  Foundation,  introduced                                                               
himself first in the Tsimshian language  and then in English.  He                                                               
said his Tsimshian name means Wolf of  the Sky; he is of the Wolf                                                               
clan  of Metlakatla;  his father  is David  Albert Boxley  of the                                                               
Eagle  clan.   He said  being Tsimshian  in Southeast  Alaska has                                                               
come with some misunderstandings.   He explained that there is an                                                               
historical   false  narrative   that  Tsimshian   people  entered                                                               
Southeast Alaska in  1887, with William Duncan.  He  said this is                                                               
not the  case, and  the proof of  that is in  the place  names in                                                               
many  areas in  Southeast Alaska  "that are  much older  than our                                                               
move to Alaska."  He offered some examples.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:12:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOXLEY  mentioned ethnogenetics  and talked about  the trauma                                                               
that can  result from loss of  land, language, and identity.   He                                                               
said the trauma  can damage deoxyribonucleic acid  (DNA), and the                                                               
damage can be  passed down through generations.   He said studies                                                               
show that  learning one's culture  and language can help  to heal                                                               
the damage.   He said  he has seen that  healing occur.   He said                                                               
the  missionaries did  not discourage  the Tsimshian  people from                                                               
using their  language; the Tsimshian  still spoke  their language                                                               
in 1887.   He relayed that at the time,  the government asked how                                                               
much  of  the island  the  Tsimshian  people  wanted.   Only  one                                                               
councilman  spoke English,  and that  councilman stated  that the                                                               
people wanted the  whole island.  When told the  people would not                                                               
know what to  do with the whole island,  the councilman countered                                                               
that  they may  not,  but  their grandchildren  would.   He  said                                                               
support of HCR  19 would begin the process of  healing the damage                                                               
of  the past  100 years.   He  said learning  one's language  and                                                               
being  proud of  one's culture  results in  lower suicide  rates,                                                               
less substance abuse,  and increased health.  He  said there used                                                               
to be signs in Ketchikan that  read "No Dogs or Indians Allowed,"                                                               
and he said it is shocking  that people think that kind of trauma                                                               
goes away.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:14:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOXLEY  said he  thinks this  is the  state's responsibility.                                                               
He said when the U.S.  government school was built in Metlakatla,                                                               
in the  early 1900s,  it became  against the  rules to  speak the                                                               
Tsimshian language.  He said he  has heard people of his father's                                                               
generation state that  they always heard their  parents speak the                                                               
Native language  but tell  them not to  do so.   He stated  it is                                                               
known now  that children who  are bilingual do better  in school.                                                               
He advised that support of HCR  19 would improve the lives of all                                                               
children, not only  indigenous children.  He indicated  he is not                                                               
blaming  those currently  in power  for the  crimes of  the past;                                                               
however,  those in  power  run the  same  system that  [committed                                                               
those wrongs] and thus have the opportunity to "fix it."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOXLEY  stated that this is  an emergency.  He  imparted that                                                               
there are five  fluent speakers of the Tsimshian  language in his                                                               
village and less than  100 in the entire world.   He said all the                                                               
legislature has  to do is  say yes.   He stated, "We're  the ones                                                               
that  have to  spend the  hours  and hours  of work  it takes  to                                                               
become fluent  in the language  that everyday is  becoming harder                                                               
and  harder  to  be  immersed  in."   He  quoted  First  Alaskans                                                               
Institute as saying,  "What's good for Native people  is good for                                                               
everyone."   He  said this  is not  just about  languages; it  is                                                               
about  stewardship of  the land  from which  languages come.   He                                                               
said, "If our languages die, the voice of our land die[s]."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOXLEY  thanked the bill  sponsor, Representative  Ortiz, and                                                               
thanked Representative Kreiss-Tomkins for  being an advocate.  He                                                               
said  language  makes   people  who  they  are.     He  said  the                                                               
legislature has the choice to  help [Native Alaskans] continue to                                                               
be who  they are or,  by ignoring  the issue, "contribute  to the                                                               
continual  disappointing  history  of  what's been  done  to  our                                                               
people."   He expressed  thanks for the  opportunity to  be heard                                                               
through testimony.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:18:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EVON PETER,  introduced himself in  his Native language  and then                                                               
translated to English.  He said  he comes from Arctic Village and                                                               
now lives  in Fairbanks.   He works  at the University  of Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks (UAF)  but is  calling on  behalf of  himself and  as a                                                               
tribal member of the Gwich'in nation.   He said the community has                                                               
heard testifiers talk  about the correlation of  language and the                                                               
healing and well-being  of people in their communities.   He said                                                               
he has  worked for many  years with young  people in the  area of                                                               
suicide prevention and  other forms of prevention.   He said most                                                               
of  the  work involves  utilizing  language  and culture,  taking                                                               
people  out on  the land,  and allowing  them the  opportunity to                                                               
heal,  connect to  the land  and their  identity, and  to develop                                                               
healthful relationships with  one another.  He  said the language                                                               
is always an integral  part of that work.  He  said in the twenty                                                               
years he  has done  this work, he  has seen  consistent outcomes.                                                               
When  the  younger generation  can  be  taught local,  indigenous                                                               
knowledge in  the Native  language, "it's like  a fire  lights up                                                               
inside of them,"  and they not only choose a  more healthful path                                                               
in life but also improve academically.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:21:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PETER  stated that  now  is  a  critical  time in  terms  of                                                               
languages and Native  Alaskans.  He invited  [the legislature] to                                                               
be a part of the great  change that is occurring, which will heal                                                               
communities and  people and  benefit the entire  state.   He said                                                               
now is the time to act,  both for those learning and teaching the                                                               
languages and for  those who are looking for ways  to support the                                                               
effort.  He  said, "I believe that this  transition will increase                                                               
in our educational institutions from  preschool all the way up to                                                               
Ph.D.,  and we  need to  be working  collaboratively and  finding                                                               
ways  that  our institutions  can  support  to make  that  change                                                               
happen."    He expressed  his  hope  that the  legislature  would                                                               
continue  in the  direction of  "acknowledging, recognizing,  and                                                               
then  acting  in   ways  that  puts  the   resources  behind  the                                                               
initiatives  and enacting  policies  that will  help  us to  move                                                               
forward in this direction."  He  posited that it is in everyone's                                                               
best interest.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:23:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALICE  TAFF, Ph.D.,  stated that  she is  an affiliate  professor                                                               
with  UAF and  the University  of Alaska  Southeast (UAS)  but is                                                               
speaking on her  own behalf today.  She said  many cultures value                                                               
personal  accounts more  highly than  other forms  of information                                                               
while others value statistics and  numbers more highly.  She said                                                               
she was  present to "comfort the  numbers people."  She  said she                                                               
would speak  about the relationship between  indigenous ancestral                                                               
language use and  physical health.  She relayed  that two studies                                                               
in  Canada   looked  at   health  issues   and  why   there  were                                                               
discrepancies among  First Nations communities.   The first study                                                               
in British  Columbia looked at  the discrepancy in  suicide rates                                                               
in  First Nations  communities in  that province  and found  that                                                               
youth  suicide rates  dropped to  zero from  high rates  when "at                                                               
least  half of  the  band  members in  the  community reported  a                                                               
conversational  knowledge of  their  own Native  language."   She                                                               
said she  hoped committee members  would agree that suicide  is a                                                               
health  issue.   She  said  that study  looked  at  a variety  of                                                               
factors  for suicide  and  language  was the  only  one that  was                                                               
substantial.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. TAFF said the second study  out of Alberta looked at diabetes                                                               
and  found that  there was  a  53 percent  reduction in  diabetes                                                               
prevalence  in   those  communities  where  the   First  People's                                                               
languages were  flourishing versus  those communities  where they                                                               
were not  in use.   She  noted that Mr.  Boxley had  touched upon                                                               
genetically  transferred trauma  and its  symptoms, and  she said                                                               
she would be willing to delve into that subject at another time.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:27:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. TAFF offered  her understanding that there is  no fiscal note                                                               
for HCR  19.   Notwithstanding that, she  opined that  every dime                                                               
spent  on  Alaska  language continuity  equal  dollars  spent  on                                                               
health.  She  proffered that in the practice of  feng shui, boxes                                                               
of  junk stuck  in  a corner  prevent money  from  coming into  a                                                               
house.   She said, "When we  clean up our junk,  money flows into                                                               
the house."   She suggested  metaphorically that  the eradication                                                               
of Alaska  language is a box  that the State of  Alaska has stuck                                                               
into a  corner.  She said  one of the earliest  places visited by                                                               
the federal  government was  the Pribilof Islands  in 1867.   She                                                               
said the  profits made  there in  seal fur  within the  first ten                                                               
years equaled the  price Seward transferred to Russia.   She said                                                               
at  that  time, the  federal  agents  who  came to  the  Probilof                                                               
Islands  burned  everything that  was  written  in Cyrillic,  not                                                               
realizing that it was not only  Russian but was also the alphabet                                                               
of the  islanders.  She said  for 150 years languages  from there                                                               
and elsewhere have  been "stuck into a messy box  in the corner."                                                               
[A recorded  voice was heard],  and Dr. Taff explained  the voice                                                               
had said,  in Dutch, that  the time was now  8:30 a.m.   She then                                                               
thanked the committee,  with "Gunalch?esh."  She signed  off in a                                                               
variety of other languages.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:30:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  thanked Dr.  Taff for her  work on                                                               
related issues throughout the years.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:30:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:31 a.m. to 8:33 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:33:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH asked  the remaining  testifiers to  limit their                                                               
time  to  two  minutes,  if   possible,  with  the  exception  of                                                               
[elders], for whom he indicated he would allow more time.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:34:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL MARLES testified  in Tlingit and translated to  English.  He                                                               
said this is a difficult issue  to talk about.  He expressed that                                                               
testifiers have cried  for help.  He stated that  it is difficult                                                               
to see children not know who  they or their ancestors are and not                                                               
know  their language  and culture.   He  said the  legislature is                                                               
being asked  for help because "the  work that we are  doing isn't                                                               
enough  anymore"  and  [Native  languages  are]  in  a  state  of                                                               
emergency.   He said he works  with the school district  and does                                                               
not  see the  interest  in  Tlingit among  his  own  people.   He                                                               
relayed his brother has always  said that when the governing body                                                               
shows  interest in  what  is  going on  then  children will  take                                                               
interest.   He said children  watch television and do  not listen                                                               
to  their elders  any more.   He  asked the  House Community  and                                                               
Regional Affairs Standing Committee  to support [HCR] 19, because                                                               
"any little bit helps."  He ended with "Gunalch?esh."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:39:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GAVIN  HUDSON,   Chair,  Haayk   Foundation,  read   his  written                                                               
testimony  [included  in the  committee  packet],  which read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Honorable  Members of  the House  Community &  Regional                                                                    
     Affairs  Committee,  and  to all  the  members  of  the                                                                    
     Alaskan Legislature,  I am compelled to  testify to you                                                                    
     this morning because we need  the elected leadership of                                                                    
     Alaska to admit that we  have A Linguistic Emergency on                                                                    
     our  hands.  We  are  losing what  might  be  the  last                                                                    
     generation  of  Tsimshian fluent  speakers.  Sm'algyax,                                                                    
     the  beautiful language  of  the  Tsimshian people,  is                                                                    
     dying. In  the entire  world, there  are less  than 100                                                                    
     fluent speakers  of our language. In  Alaska, there are                                                                    
     only six. Every  living fluent speaker is  over the age                                                                    
     of 65,  many in their  70's, 80's, and 90's.  Many with                                                                    
     poor health.  I have heard that  some Alaskan languages                                                                    
     could be gone within 100 years.  I am here to tell you,                                                                    
     that  our language,  one of  the official  languages of                                                                    
     the State of  Alaska, could be gone in  20 years. That,                                                                    
     ladies and  gentlemen, is within  my own  lifetime, and                                                                    
     within  yours.  We  all  could may  very  well  be  the                                                                    
     witnesses of the  death of our last  fluent speaker. If                                                                    
     and when  that day comes,  what will history  say about                                                                    
     you? Did you  do everything you can do to  stop it? Did                                                                    
     you even  admit there was  a problem? Did you  at least                                                                    
     acknowledge the emergency? In our  language, we have an                                                                    
     ancient  and  positive  expression,  sa'aaml  waan,  it                                                                    
     means make  good what you  do and make your  name good.                                                                    
     Our names,  the quality of  them, is determined  by our                                                                    
     actions. Did  we behave with integrity  and compassion?                                                                    
     Did we answer  the call to serve? Do we  hold others up                                                                    
     when they need our support?  No one can save a language                                                                    
     on their own.  But languages can be saved, if  we do it                                                                    
     together.  Whether you  are indigenous  or not,  we are                                                                    
     all in  the same canoe,  and we have to  pull together.                                                                    
     We need  you, all of you,  to help us. I  am asking for                                                                    
     your  support  in  the effort  to  save  the  Tsimshian                                                                    
     language, I  am asking you  to vote yes in  declaring a                                                                    
     linguistic  emergency. We  have all  sworn oaths  to do                                                                    
     what is  best for  our peoples. And  I am  telling you,                                                                    
     having living and vibrant  indigenous languages is what                                                                    
     is  best  for  our State.  Learning  our  grandparents'                                                                    
     language,   and   then   passing   it   down   to   our                                                                    
     grandchildren, is an act  of overcoming colonialism and                                                                    
     historical  trauma.  Bilingual  children do  better  in                                                                    
     math, science,  reading, art and  music. As  Mr. Boxley                                                                    
     and  Dr.  Alice  Taff  have  both  testified,  when  an                                                                    
     indigenous language  is healthy,  rates of  suicide and                                                                    
     drug abuse  drop significantly. So  this is not  just a                                                                    
     matter of health,  but literally of life  and death. At                                                                    
     a  time of  division and  animosity, we  can decide  to                                                                    
     move forward  together toward  the beautiful  and noble                                                                    
     goal of  saving our  mother tongues. We  Tsimshian have                                                                    
     another  ancient, positive  expression, Wayi  Wah! Wayi                                                                    
     Wah means, Let's  go! So I say to you  today, Wayi Wah,                                                                    
      because this is an emergency, and we have no time to                                                                      
     waste. Thank you for your time.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:44:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HATTIE KELLER,  Director, Inupiaq, Kawerak, Inc.,  spoke first in                                                               
Inupiaq and  then English.   She  shared her  Inupiaq name.   She                                                               
said she  is from Nome and  her family is from  Shishmareff.  Ms.                                                               
Keller  read an  excerpt of  something written  by an  elder from                                                               
Shishmareff,  in which  the elder  describes learning  English in                                                               
school, being  punished for speaking  Inupiaq but speaking  it at                                                               
home, and  the old Inupiaq  dialect that  died.  Ms.  Keller said                                                               
because  of  colonization  "there  are 13.6  percent  of  Inupiaq                                                               
speakers,"  which  she said  is  a  stark  comparison to  the  71                                                               
percent of  St. Lawrence  Islanders [who  speak] Yupik  and "41.6                                                               
percent central Yupik speakers today."   She said the majority of                                                               
the 13.6  percent are elders.   She said studies have  shown that                                                               
without [Alaska  Native] language, culture, and  tradition, there                                                               
is a  higher rate of  suicides, alcoholism, and  [recidivism] and                                                               
"low rates  of attendance."  Ms.  Keller asked for "a  key change                                                               
for  future  generations"  and   for  "healing  together."    She                                                               
classified  [the   state  of  Alaska  Native   languages]  as  an                                                               
emergency.   She urged passage of  HCR 19.  She  concluded, "This                                                               
next step  in healing  is for future  generations."   She thanked                                                               
Representative Ortiz in Inupiaq for sponsoring HCR 19.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:46:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID NEES  testified that he is  a teacher but is  testifying on                                                               
his own behalf.  He said  he is functionally illiterate in almost                                                               
every  Alaska  Native  language,  as   are  most  of  his  fellow                                                               
teachers.   He agreed that  the state of Alaska  Native languages                                                               
is   an   emergency.     He   offered   his  understanding   that                                                               
Representative Saddler  would present  an amendment  to "continue                                                               
it."   He pointed  out that  one missing  element to  consider is                                                               
that there are no provisions  within the education system to give                                                               
"a license of  a mastery in a Native language"  to people so they                                                               
can  teach the  language in  a  school.   He said  of the  Indian                                                               
education tutors with whom he  worked, some could speak their own                                                               
Native language  but did not  have any students in  the classroom                                                               
[who spoke  that language].   He said the Alaska  Cultural Native                                                               
Charter School in Anchorage, Alaska,  immerses everybody in every                                                               
language.  Mr. Nees stated that  if there is a localized language                                                               
emergency  in  Southeast,  Alaska,  for example,  there  must  be                                                               
provisions in the school system  to ensure "the children that are                                                               
from that  culture have an exposure  to it while they  are inside                                                               
the school system."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEES  said the Russians  showing up, the Spanish  and English                                                               
showing up and settling the  country, Seward buying [Alaska] from                                                               
the  Russians, and  the segregation  of the  education system  in                                                               
Alaska is not  "our fault," because "that's the way  it was."  He                                                               
continued, "It is our fault that  we haven't decided that this is                                                               
an emergency and  we haven't applied resources."  He  said HCR 19                                                               
is a good resolution, but  the legislature should figure out what                                                               
will be  done after  the state  says there is  an emergency.   He                                                               
asked, "Are you going to give it  to the governor to come up with                                                               
a policy or are  you going to give it to  the State Department of                                                               
Education [& Early  Development] to come up with a  policy or are                                                               
you going  to let  communities in Alaska  decide our  language is                                                               
important enough that we're going  to have master speakers in our                                                               
classrooms at  school immersing  people in the  language?   And I                                                               
think that's  probably the best  system to  do.  So,  any barrier                                                               
you have  between master speakers  and passing that  knowledge on                                                               
through your public  education system is a barrier  that needs to                                                               
be taken a look at."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:49:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  said he thinks  what Mr. Nees  is talking                                                               
about is "the next step."  He  said HCR 19 is an incremental step                                                               
that  accomplishes little  but sets  the ground  work for  future                                                               
steps.   He said the  question to ask  is how to  preserve Native                                                               
languages.   He said Mr.  Nees' suggestion is an  interesting one                                                               
that he hopes will be brought forward.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:50:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALLAN  HAYTON, Director,  Language Revitalization  Program, Doyon                                                               
Foundation, spoke  in Gwich'in Athabascan and  then translated to                                                               
English.   He gave his Athabascan  name and related that  he grew                                                               
up  in Arctic  Village.   He  said  he has  been  in his  current                                                               
position since 2015.  The program  has existed for six years.  He                                                               
said  there are  10 languages  in the  region, all  of which  are                                                               
endangered.    Some of  the  languages  are  down to  their  last                                                               
speaker; the  majority of  the speakers are  known by  first name                                                               
only.  He said he considers that  an emergency.  He said there is                                                               
a  long, historical  path that  has lead  to this  situation with                                                               
languages  and  cultures;  official  policies of  the  past  have                                                               
created this  emergency.  He  stated support  of HCR 19  and said                                                               
any  and all  support is  appreciated.   He said  there are  many                                                               
benefits to supporting languages for future generations.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYTON said Tanacross just  hired a [Native language] teacher                                                               
in the last year.  He  indicated named some places where Gwich'in                                                               
is taught  but said  he does  not know if  there are  teachers in                                                               
Arctic Village or Fort Yukon  or other communities in that school                                                               
district.   He said there  is one teacher serving  10 communities                                                               
in the  Yukon-Koyukuk School District  via video and  she teaches                                                               
the Lower  Tanana language in  Minto.  He  said he does  not know                                                               
whether any other languages in the region are taught in schools.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:55:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LACEY   WILSON  testified   regarding   the  marginalization   of                                                               
languages.    She said  language  impacts  how people  understand                                                               
their relationship  to the world,  the structure of  society, and                                                               
"the  ability  to  see  the  possibility of  the  future."    She                                                               
continued:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Without  our original  indigenous language,  our people                                                                    
     cannot  relate  themselves  to the  world  and  to  our                                                                    
     people in a  healthy way.  As in the  case of nurturing                                                                    
     children and  also in the case  of nurturing ourselves,                                                                    
     neglect is tantamount to murder  by inaction, and it is                                                                    
     paramount that we take action  today to try to save our                                                                    
     languages.    The  loss of  our  language  is  directly                                                                    
     impacted by  our people  being marginalized  by English                                                                    
     speaking   society   and   colonial  law.      We   are                                                                    
     marginalized in that [in] this  society we are allotted                                                                    
     limited  resources to  address our  societal struggles,                                                                    
     which  is   poverty,  substance  abuse,   and  domestic                                                                    
     violence.   This has  left little  or no  resources for                                                                    
     language  revitalization in  many  of our  communities.                                                                    
     Having to  put our language  on the back burner  for so                                                                    
     long  has resulted  in waning  status  of an  important                                                                    
     component to the health of our people.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Our language is the root of  our identity; it is a part                                                                    
     of the  land where we grow.   Moving it from  this land                                                                    
     is  like moving  oxygen from  our soil;  it causes  our                                                                    
     structure toxicity where nothing  will grow.  We cannot                                                                    
     hope to grow and to be  a healthy people if we lose our                                                                    
     language.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     I'm calling today  to ask the members  of the committee                                                                    
     to please vote in  recognizing the linguistic emergency                                                                    
     already taking place  in Alaska so that we  may hope to                                                                    
     have the  resources allocated to  bring back  the roots                                                                    
     of our identity.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:58:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH,  after ascertaining that  there was no  one else                                                               
who wished to testify, closed public testimony on HCR 19.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:58:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH, in  response to  Representative Saddler,  named                                                               
the following four  individuals who were on the  list for invited                                                               
testimony on March  6, 2018:  Annette Evans  Smith, Xh'unei Lance                                                               
Twitchell, Yaayuk  Bernadette Alvanna-Stimpfle, and  Liz Medicine                                                               
Crow.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:59:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JODIE  GATTI,  Staff,  Representative  Dan Ortiz,  on  behalf  of                                                               
Representative Ortiz, prime  sponsor, confirmed invited testimony                                                               
on March 6, 2018, comprised those four named individuals.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:00:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  moved to  adopt Amendment 1,  labeled 30-                                                               
LS1402\U.1, Martin, 3/6/18, which read as follows:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 12, following "learning;":                                                                                    
          Insert "and                                                                                                           
          WHEREAS  language  is   an  important  element  of                                                                  
     culture,  and the  use of  Alaska Native  languages can                                                                    
     strengthen   Alaska  Native   culture  in   a  mutually                                                                    
     reinforcing cycle;"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND objected for purpose of discussion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER spoke  to Amendment 1.  He  said, "I think                                                               
it's important to make the point  that the goal of this effort is                                                               
not necessarily  Alaska language per  se, but ... is  an integral                                                               
element of Alaska  Native culture."  He talked  about the purpose                                                               
of whereas  clauses to justify  the need for the  action clauses.                                                               
He  said he  has heard  people testify  as to  the importance  of                                                               
Alaska  Native  culture  to Alaska  Native  people,  the  greater                                                               
Alaska  community,   and  the  global   community,  and   to  the                                                               
importance  of language  to culture.    He observed  there is  no                                                               
language in HCR  19 that specifically links  language to culture;                                                               
therefore,  he  thinks  it  needs  to  be  included.    He  said,                                                               
"Language and  culture are mutually reinforcing;  the more people                                                               
use  a  language  ...  [the  more] it  reinforces  it  and  gives                                                               
credence and prominence and integrity  to the culture."  He asked                                                               
for member's support of Amendment 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:02:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAN ORTIZ,  Alaska  State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor of HCR 19, stated support of Amendment 1.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND removed  her objection  to Amendment  1.                                                               
There being no further objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:03:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER moved to adopt Amendment 2, labeled 30-                                                                  
LS1402\U.2, Martin, 3/6/18, which read as follows:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, following line 20:                                                                                                 
          Insert new material to read:                                                                                          
          "FURTHER   RESOLVED   that    the   Alaska   State                                                                  
     Legislature  encourages   Alaska  Natives   to  support                                                                    
     Alaska  Native  culture   by  learning,  teaching,  and                                                                    
     practicing Alaska  Native languages  in daily  life and                                                                    
     affairs; and be it"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND objected for purpose of discussion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER spoke  to  Amendment 2.   He  recollected                                                               
that  Mr. Hudson  had  testified  today that  HCR  19 would  help                                                               
repair intergenerational trauma; using  Alaska Native language is                                                               
a way  of healing the  culture.  He  said the effort  to preserve                                                               
language can  be hindered  by government,  which often  is heavy-                                                               
handed.    He  said  he  would not  place  his  faith  solely  in                                                               
government  action  "to maintain  and  sustain  and perpetuate  a                                                               
language."   He  recollected that  Mr. Stepetin  had brought  his                                                               
three children  with him  when he testified  [on March  6, 2018],                                                               
and he  had told Mr. Stepetin  that "this effort and  this battle                                                               
will truly  be won  at the  family and  intergenerational level."                                                               
He said  family passing down  their language  through generations                                                               
is "the ultimate  guarantor of the health of the  culture and the                                                               
language."   He said  government can do  certain things  and "we"                                                               
can try to  atone for or repair damage that  government has done,                                                               
but "government  cannot do  for a  language and  culture anywhere                                                               
near  as well  as they  can do  for themselves."   He  said as  a                                                               
student of language  and an observer of the process,  it is clear                                                               
to him that the effort to  sustain a language and culture is most                                                               
effective when children and adults  are given the chance to learn                                                               
them.  He  expressed admiration for those who  learn languages as                                                               
an adult.   He concluded,  "The actual employment of  language by                                                               
Alaska Natives is  an important part of this,  and the government                                                               
cannot do it all itself."   He asked members to support Amendment                                                               
2.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:05:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ   said  he  does  not   disagree  with  the                                                               
statements Representative Saddler made  in regard to the proposed                                                               
amendment; however, he  said Amendment 2 would  change the nature                                                               
of HCR 19.   He explained that [Amendment 2] is  a directive to a                                                               
group of people  to take an action.   He said he  does not oppose                                                               
those  people taking  that  action but  questions  giving such  a                                                               
directive in  HCR 19.   He  said HCR  19 is  not calling  for the                                                               
government to  be the  solution to  the issue;  it just  asks the                                                               
government to  recognize a state of  emergency on the issue.   He                                                               
stated opposition to Amendment 2.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER countered that the  language in the "BE IT                                                             
RESOLVED" clause,  on page 2,  [lines 13-16], does call  on state                                                             
agencies  to work  actively with  the  legislature; the  "FURTHER                                                             
RESOLVED"  clause,  on  page  2,  [lines  17-20],  calls  on  the                                                             
legislature   and   governor   "to  work   with   Alaska   native                                                               
organizations  to   initiate  and  strengthen,   as  appropriate,                                                               
legislative and  policy measures" ["that prioritize  the survival                                                               
and continued  use of Alaska  Native languages"].   He reiterated                                                               
that he  thinks government  should have  a roll  to play,  but it                                                               
should not be the sole roll.   He noted the concurrent resolution                                                               
title read  "a linguistic emergency" not  "a linguistic emergency                                                               
solely addressing  government solutions."   He  said if  there is                                                               
interest  in results  and  solutions as  opposed  to a  specific,                                                               
government-only   approach,   it   is  appropriate   to   include                                                               
"effective   and  long-lasting   solutions"  to   the  linguistic                                                               
emergency.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:08:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:08 a.m. to 9:09 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GATTI said Amendment 2 points  to a particular race while HCR                                                               
19  seeks  actions  by   government  agencies  and  organizations                                                               
through state policy to advance languages.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:09:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER noted  that Alaska  Native languages  are                                                               
referenced  throughout  the  HCR  19.   He  said  testifiers  had                                                               
expressed that the language, culture,  and race are "inextricably                                                               
[and] mutually independent."   He reiterated that if  the goal is                                                               
to ensure  the survival of  language, then "we should  be willing                                                               
to support  efforts" toward whichever  method is  "most effective                                                               
at perpetuating those languages."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:10:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LINCOLN  stated,  "There's a  difference  between                                                               
Alaska Native language and culture  ... [and] some race-based ...                                                               
Alaska Native  person."  He relayed  that in his region,  some of                                                               
the most  celebrated members of  the community and tribe  are not                                                               
Alaska  Native  in   blood  quantum  but  are   people  who  have                                                               
integrated into the  region and practice the  lifestyle; they are                                                               
hunters and providers who have learned  the language.  He said he                                                               
strongly objects  to the  idea that "these  things ...  are fully                                                               
intertwined with race; it's way beyond that."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:11:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND maintained her objection.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:12:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  asked for clarification on  the argument                                                               
related to Amendment 2.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:13:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  said she  thinks Amendment 2  is stating                                                               
the obvious.  She said she  thinks the committee can see how hard                                                               
everyone who  testified is working  to reinstate  their languages                                                               
in their families and communities.  She continued:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     To tell  them that  we are  encouraging them  is simply                                                                    
     patting them  on the heads  and saying, "Now,  you know                                                                    
     that this is  how to do it."  They  clearly know how to                                                                    
     do it.  And I don't  think we ... white people have any                                                                    
     right  to tell  them  how  to do  it.    Coming from  a                                                                    
     bilingual family  myself, my family knew  from the get-                                                                    
     go how to  do this.  The issue here  ... is that entire                                                                    
     generations' mouths  were washed  out in soap  or other                                                                    
     chemicals and told not to  speak their languages.  When                                                                    
     you  lose  the native  speakers  of  your language  you                                                                    
     cannot simply  start speaking to your  children in your                                                                    
     native language.   This takes a whole  lot more support                                                                    
     and encouragement.   And I  appreciate ...  the thought                                                                    
     behind  the amendment,  but I  ...  cannot support  it,                                                                    
     because I  know our  Alaska Native people  know exactly                                                                    
     what needs to  be done; they're simply  looking for our                                                                    
     support and encouragement.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:15:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  responded that  nobody is  patting anyone                                                               
on the head.   He said HCR 19 specifically  expresses the call of                                                               
the  legislature  to  request the  governor  to  tell  government                                                               
agencies and Alaska  Native organizations what to  do to preserve                                                               
Alaska culture and  language.  He said whereas  clauses state the                                                               
obvious:  there  is a linguistic emergency in which  Alaska is in                                                               
danger  of losing  Alaska Native  languages.   He said,  "I'm not                                                               
sure why  there's resistance to  the obvious,  that encouragement                                                               
of  Alaska  Natives to  speak  and  practice  and pass  on  their                                                               
language   is  antithetical   to  the   ultimate  goal   of  this                                                               
resolution."   He said if  the objection is maintained,  he could                                                               
"water the  amendment down to  a point where  I hope it  would be                                                               
more successful."   He asked the bill sponsor if  it would make a                                                               
difference  if  Amendment  2  were  changed  to  read  "Alaskans"                                                               
instead of "Alaska Natives".                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:17:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GATTI  said the spirit  behind the amendment  is appreciated.                                                               
Further, she  indicated that the  bill sponsor would  support the                                                               
change  because it  would put  the burden  on everyone  in Alaska                                                               
rather than just on Alaska Natives.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR    PARISH   questioned    whether   resolutions    have,                                                               
historically, moved members of the  general public to a course of                                                               
particular action.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:18:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER pointed  to  language  in the  "WHEREAS"                                                             
clause beginning  on page 2, line  10, of HCR 19,  [which read as                                                               
follows]:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          WHEREAS  indigenous  peoples  should  be  able  to                                                                  
     provide education  in the peoples'  own languages  in a                                                                    
     manner  that is  appropriate to  the peoples'  cultural                                                                    
     methods of teaching and learning;                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  said he thinks the  language is "stating                                                               
what Representative Saddler is stating."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:18:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH said  an upcoming  amendment would  address that                                                               
language.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:19:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ told Representative  Rauscher that he thinks                                                               
that particular line, rather than  being instructive or directive                                                               
toward a group  of people, is a recognition of  where in the past                                                               
indigenous  people   have  been  prevented  from   pursuing  that                                                               
[education and teaching].  Speaking  to Amendment 2, he confirmed                                                               
the comment of Ms. Gatti that  he would not oppose Amendment 2 if                                                               
it was amended to change "Alaska Native" to "Alaskans".                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:21:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER,  in response to Co-Chair  Parish's query,                                                               
stated that resolutions  often call on all Alaskans  to support a                                                               
cause.    To  Representative  Rauscher's  remark,  Representative                                                               
Saddler  said  the language  on  page  2,  line 10,  states  that                                                               
indigenous  peoples  "should  be   able  to  provide  education";                                                               
therefore, he said he thinks HCR 19  does "call on people - not a                                                               
government organization - to do thus  and such/this or that."  He                                                               
said he  sees Amendment 2  as having no inconsistency  with other                                                               
elements of  the resolution.  He  said if the intent  is that HCR                                                               
19 be directed  solely at government, then the  language [on page                                                               
2, lines 10-12] should be removed.   Finally, he said if the goal                                                               
of HCR  19 is to  support Alaska  Native languages, then  he does                                                               
not  understand why  there would  be any  objection to  a resolve                                                               
clause  that calls  on everybody,  including  Alaska Natives,  to                                                               
support culture.  He said, "If I have  to water it down to get it                                                               
through, I'm  certainly willing  to do that,  but I  still really                                                               
don't understand the basis of the objection."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ responded  that he would not  use the phrase                                                               
"watering  it down"  but that  changing to  include all  Alaskans                                                               
would  remove the  specificity toward  Alaska Natives.   He  then                                                               
stated, "And  later on,  when you referred  to some  other areas,                                                               
again, those  are examples where  the resolution is  calling out,                                                               
it's bringing  reference to where  ... Alaska Native  cultures in                                                               
the past -  and you've heard about this in  the testimony - where                                                               
they have  been prevented from  putting forward  these particular                                                               
actions.  And so, that's the difference."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:24:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  moved to adopt Conceptual  Amendment 1 to                                                               
Amendment 2, to change [the  first occurrence of] "Alaska Native"                                                               
[following  "encourages"] to  "Alaskans" and  to delete  the word                                                               
"indigenous" on page 2, line 10.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ asked  if Representative  Saddler would  be                                                               
amenable to using the phrase "all Alaskans".                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  answered  that  he would  let  the  bill                                                               
drafter decide whether "Alaskans" implies "all Alaskans".                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND objected  to Conceptual  Amendment 1  to                                                               
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:25:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH  clarified  that with  Conceptual  Amendment  1,                                                               
Amendment 2 would read as follows:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, following line 20:                                                                                                 
          Insert new material to read:                                                                                          
          "FURTHER   RESOLVED   that    the   Alaska   State                                                                  
     Legislature encourages  all Alaskans to  support Alaska                                                                    
     Native  culture by  learning, teaching,  and practicing                                                                    
     Alaska Native languages in daily  life and affairs; and                                                                    
     be it"                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 10:                                                                                                           
          Delete "indigenous"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND restated her objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:26:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:26 a.m. to 9:27 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:27:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ  said he  opposes the  deletion of  the word                                                               
"indigenous".                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:27:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND spoke  to  her objection.   She  stated,                                                               
"This is  a misplaced  modifier in which  we are  encouraging all                                                               
Alaskans to learn, teach, and  practice Alaska Native languages."                                                               
She posited that  the committee should leave the  language to the                                                               
bill drafter;  however, she said  she objects to  both Conceptual                                                               
Amendment  1 to  Amendment 2,  as  well as  to Amendment  2 as  a                                                               
whole.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:28:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER, speaking  to Conceptual  Amendment 1  to                                                               
Amendment  2,   said  he   thinks  there   is  a   necessity  for                                                               
consistency.  He  said he had asked Ms. Medicine  Crow and others                                                               
off the  record whether  it is beneficial  to Alaska  Natives and                                                               
their culture for  non-Alaska Natives to speak, use,  and pass on                                                               
Alaska  Native language.    He  said the  answer  he  got was  an                                                               
emphatic  yes.   He  said to  be consistent  there  should be  no                                                               
limitation  on the  ability  of people  to  provide education  in                                                               
their own language.   He explained, "It should not  be limited to                                                               
indigenous  people; it  should be  all  peoples."   He said,  "If                                                               
you're  going  to  support  the   amendment  to  Amendment  2  to                                                               
encourage all  Alaskans, then  I think of  necessity you  have to                                                               
support the conceptual amendment, which  would call on all people                                                               
to be able to provide education in their people's own language."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:30:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ  offered  his  understanding  that  English                                                               
speaking  people  have  never  experienced  a  problem  providing                                                               
English  education in  the state  of Alaska;  however, indigenous                                                               
people  have   experienced  problems   when  trying   to  provide                                                               
education  in   their  languages.     He  said  the   removal  of                                                               
"indigenous" would  "dilute the  whole purpose of  the resolution                                                               
itself";  therefore,   he  opposed  Conceptual  Amendment   1  to                                                               
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:31:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  said he  wished that  in voting  out the                                                               
second part of  Conceptual Amendment 1 to Amendment  2 [to delete                                                               
"indigenous"]  he  didn't  have  to  also  fail  the  first  part                                                               
[changing "Alaska Native" to "all Alaskans"].                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:32:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 9:32 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:32:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER said, "I call the previous question."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:33:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND maintained her objection.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:33:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee  took an  at-ease from  9:33 a.m.  to 9:40  a.m. to                                                               
address a technical issue.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:40:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representative Saddler  voted in                                                               
favor of Conceptual Amendment 1  to Amendment 2.  Representatives                                                               
Lincoln,  Drummond,  Rauscher,  and   Parish  voted  against  it.                                                               
Therefore,  Conceptual Amendment  1 to  Amendment 2  failed by  a                                                               
vote of 1-4.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:42:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  moved to adopt [Conceptual  Amendment 2]                                                               
to  Amendment 2,  to replace  [the first  occurrence of]  "Alaska                                                               
Natives" [in Amendment 2] with "all Alaskans".                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:42:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  objected.   She reiterated that  what is                                                               
being proposed is  not good English and would  be encouraging all                                                               
Alaskans to  learn, teach, and practice  Alaska Native languages.                                                               
She stated that [HCR 19]  is about supporting Alaska's indigenous                                                               
peoples in their emergency effort to save their languages.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  withdrew his motion to  adopt Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 2 to Amendment 2.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:44:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND maintained her objection to Amendment 2.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:44:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER called the question.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:45:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 9:45 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:45:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll  call  vote  was  taken.    Representatives  Saddler  and                                                               
Rauscher  voted  in  favor  of   Amendment  2.    Representatives                                                               
Lincoln,  Drummond,  and Parish  voted  against  it.   Therefore,                                                               
Amendment 2 failed by a vote of 2-3.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:46:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 9:46 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:46:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  moved to  adopt Amendment 3,  labeled 30-                                                               
LS1402\U.3, Martin, 3/6/18, which read as follows:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 19:                                                                                                           
          Delete "prioritize"                                                                                                   
          Insert "emphasize"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SADDLER  spoke   to  Amendment   3.     He  said                                                               
"prioritize" connotes ranking or hierarchy  - the putting of some                                                               
things above  or below others.   He said he heard  no one testify                                                               
that any  one language was better  than others, while he  said he                                                               
heard several  people testify  that there should  be parity.   He                                                               
mentioned again  that he had spoken  with Ms. Medicine Crow.   He                                                               
said he  thinks Amendment 3  would "clearly express the  need for                                                               
an  emphasis  on  Alaska  Native language."    He  specified  the                                                               
difference  between prioritizing  and  emphasizing Alaska  Native                                                               
languages.  He said Amendment 3  does not say there should not be                                                               
efforts made to  preserve Alaska Native language  and culture; it                                                               
simply relays "they should not be prioritized over others."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:49:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GATTI indicated  that the  word "prioritize"  was used  as a                                                               
contrast  to "how  it was  not a  priority in  prior years."   To                                                               
Representative  Saddler,  she  said,   "The  level  to  which  we                                                               
celebrate  and   strengthen  and  support   Alaska's  co-official                                                               
languages does not diminish other  languages as a whole; however,                                                               
the loss of a language diminishes all of us."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:49:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  moved to adopt Amendment  1 to Amendment                                                               
3  such that  instead  of deleting  "prioritize"  the words  "and                                                               
emphasize" would be inserted following "prioritize".                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:50:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  reiterated that to  prioritize explicitly                                                               
describes  ordination.   He added,  "If something  is in  the top                                                               
rank of  order, it is  obviously being  emphasized."  He  said as                                                               
currently written, the  use of "prioritize" in HCR  19 could mean                                                               
to  prioritize  over  economic  development,  public  safety,  or                                                               
public health  issues.   He said  he does not  believe it  is the                                                               
intent  of  HCR   19  to  hold  Alaska   Native  languages  above                                                               
everything else.   Representative Saddler, based on  notes he had                                                               
taken  during  testimony,  offered  his  understanding  that  Ms.                                                               
Dybdahl had said  that [the Central Council of  Tlingit and Haida                                                               
Indian  Tribes  of Alaska]  is  asking  for  equal access  -  not                                                               
prioritization; Ms. Barnes  had indicated she could  or would not                                                               
say "prioritize"  was the  right word  and perhaps  the committee                                                               
could  wordsmith; and  Ms. Gatti  said HCR  19 does  not seek  to                                                               
prioritize Alaska Native  languages.  He said he  thinks the word                                                               
"emphasize"   expresses  the   need   to   do  something,   while                                                               
"prioritize" means not doing anything  else at all "until this is                                                               
done."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:52:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND withdrew the  motion to adopt Amendment 1                                                               
to Amendment 3 and objected to Amendment 3.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:53:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LINCOLN  said he has a  different understanding of                                                               
the  word "priority".   He  explained, "How  high you  prioritize                                                               
something is a  function of not just its importance  but also its                                                               
urgency."   He offered  an example.   He said  he does  not think                                                               
anyone  is   arguing  that  Alaska  Native   languages  are  more                                                               
important  than any  other  language, but  they  have "got  their                                                               
backs against the wall right now"  and he said he thinks it makes                                                               
sense to prioritize "supporting them  in this ... really critical                                                               
window we have to ensure their  survival."  He said he hears what                                                               
[Representative Saddler] is saying and  agrees to a large extent;                                                               
however, he said he neither  understands the word "prioritize" in                                                               
the same way nor does he "have the same issues with it."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:54:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND said  the principle  language of  HCR 19                                                               
recognizes  a  linguistic emergency,  and  Amendment  3 seeks  to                                                               
replace  the  word  "prioritize"  with "emphasize".    She  said,                                                               
"We're not talking about prioritizing  the survival and continued                                                               
use of German, Greek, Japanese,  or Russian; we are talking about                                                               
the survival and  continued use of Alaska Native  languages.  ...                                                               
Period.    End  of  story."     In  response  to  a  request  for                                                               
clarification from  Representative Rauscher, she stated  that she                                                               
was objecting to Amendment 3.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:55:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ORTIZ referred  to all the comments  that had been                                                               
made and  stated that  he concurred with  "the comments  that had                                                               
been made most recently."   He said that "prioritize the survival                                                               
and  continued use  of  Native  languages" is  "part  of a  whole                                                               
phrase"  that  does  not  speak  to  prioritizing  over  economic                                                               
development  or  other  languages.     Echoing  the  comments  of                                                               
Representative Drummond,  he said that prioritizing  "brings back                                                               
the  notion of  the  emergency and  the need  to  take action  to                                                               
preserve  languages  that  are,  right   now,  on  the  brink  of                                                               
extinction."     Representative   Ortiz   stated  opposition   to                                                               
Amendment 3.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  said it is his  wish to pass HCR  19 from                                                               
committee,  and he  is  just  trying to  make  a good  resolution                                                               
better.  He read the  definition of "priority" from Webster's New                                                             
Collegiate Dictionary,  Ninth Edition, as follows:   "the quality                                                             
of  superiority in  rank, position,  or privilege."   He  said he                                                               
does not  dispute the idea  that quick  action is needed,  and he                                                               
said he has an amendment that would address that issue.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:58:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH  said the  State of  Alaska has  many priorities;                                                               
therefore,  he  said  he  disagrees   that  "if  something  is  a                                                               
priority, it is the most important priority."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:58:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH maintained  his objection to the  motion to adopt                                                               
Amendment 3.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:59:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives Saddler  voted in                                                               
favor  of  Amendment  3.     Representatives  Rauscher,  Lincoln,                                                               
Drummond, and  Parish voted against  it.  Therefore,  Amendment 3                                                               
failed by a vote of 1-4.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:59:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  moved to  adopt Amendment 4,  labeled 30-                                                               
LS1402\U.4, Martin, 3/6/18, which read as follows:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 11:                                                                                                           
          Delete "in a manner that is appropriate to the                                                                        
     peoples' cultural methods of teaching and learning"                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:59:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND and CO-CHAIR PARISH objected.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER spoke  to Amendment  4.   He said  he has                                                               
heard testimony  about "the benefits  important to  Alaska Native                                                               
language" but  not as much  evidence on  the best way  to achieve                                                               
the continuation  of the language[s].   He indicated that  HCR 19                                                               
is  a  foundational block  for  continuing  efforts; however,  he                                                               
opined that  to say  that "indigenous peoples  should be  able to                                                               
provide education in the peoples'  own languages in a manner that                                                               
is appropriate to  the peoples' cultural methods  of teaching and                                                               
learning" is "about a half-step too far at this point."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  said she needs  a minute to  think about                                                               
[Amendment 4] but something about it rubs her the wrong way.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:01:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. GATTI  said this "WHEREAS" clause  was included in HCR  19 in                                                             
recognition of the  many unique people in the state.   The reason                                                               
for "in the  manner that is appropriate to  the peoples' cultural                                                               
methods  of   teaching  and  learning",  she   explained,  is  to                                                               
recognize  that there  are many  different ways  of teaching  and                                                               
learning in the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND recollected  she  had once  waited on  a                                                               
decision by  the Department of  Education & Early  Development as                                                               
to who  would be a  recipient of a  certificate.  She  said, "But                                                               
this is a  linguistic emergency.  We don't have  time to wait for                                                               
anybody  to  certify any  method  of  ...  teaching."   She  said                                                               
children  are  open   to  learning,  and  she   opined  that  the                                                               
legislature needs to "get behind  these folks and support them in                                                               
any way we can and just get  out of their way" rather than trying                                                               
to  determine "what  is or  is not  appropriate."   She said  she                                                               
thinks  the phrase  needs to  remain  in HCR  19, because  Alaska                                                               
Native  speakers know  "exactly how  they're going  to do  this."                                                               
She said she  wishes Dr. Twitchell was still  present, because he                                                               
could explain  how it could  be done.   She recollected  that Dr.                                                               
Twitchell had gone to Hawai'i and learned to speak the language.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER noted  that under AS 14.30.420  there is a                                                               
provision for  school boards to  establish a local  Alaska Native                                                               
language  curriculum   advisory  board  in  communities   with  a                                                               
majority of Alaska Natives.   He reiterated his intent to improve                                                               
upon the concurrent resolution while not impeding its progress.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER withdrew the motion to adopt Amendment 4.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:04:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  moved to adopt Conceptual  Amendment [5],                                                               
labeled 30-LS1402\U.5, Martin, 3/7/18, which read as follows:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 14, following "work":                                                                                         
          Insert "expeditiously and"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER spoke  to Conceptual  Amendment [5].   He                                                               
said  he thinks  the title  of HCR  19 speaks  to the  linguistic                                                               
emergency.   He said  he thinks  the addition  of "expeditiously"                                                               
would add to the sense of urgency.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:06:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ   said  he   does  not   oppose  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment [5].                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH  withdrew his  objection to  Conceptual Amendment                                                               
[5].  There being no further objection, it was so ordered.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER expressed thanks  to Ms. Medicine-Crow for                                                               
her help in getting that language in HCR 19.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:07:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  moved to report  HCR 19, as  amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal  notes.   There  being  no objection,  CSHCR                                                               
19(CRA) was reported out of the House Community and Regional                                                                    
Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:07:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:07 a.m. to 10:10 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:10:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee meeting was                                                                   
adjourned at 10:10 a.m.                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HCR019 Supporting Document Bonnie Morris 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Draft Proposed Amendment ver U.4 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Draft Proposed Amendment ver U.3 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Draft Proposed Amendment ver U.2 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document Council of Athabascan Tribal Governments 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Draft Proposed Amendment ver U.1 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document Iñupiaq Language Commission 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document Libby Stortz 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document Julie Kitka 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document Menka 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document Greenstreet 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document Bolivar 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Draft Proposed Amendment ver U.5 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document - Doyon Foundation - 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document - Gavin Hudson - 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document - Gail Dabaluz - 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document - Hydaburg City Shool District - 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document - Karla Gatgyedm Hana'ax Booth - 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19
HCR019 Supporting Document - Lacey Jade - 03.08.18.pdf HCRA 3/8/2018 8:00:00 AM
HCR 19