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07/12/2018 10:00 AM LEGISLATIVE BUDGET & AUDIT

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10:11:26 AM Start
10:12:33 AM Approval of Agenda
10:14:24 AM Approval of Minutes
10:18:14 AM Executive Session
11:10:54 AM Other Committee Business
11:25:14 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
- EXECUTIVE SESSION -
a. Final Audit: Dept. of Administration, State
Single Audit FY17
b. Final Audit: Dept. of Commerce, Community &
Economic Development, Regulatory Commission of
Alaska FY17 Annual Report
c. Preliminary Audit: Dept. of Commerce,
Community & Economic Development, Board of
Marine Pilots Sunset Review
d. Sexual Harassment Policy
- Other Committee Business
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         July 12, 2018                                                                                          
                           10:11 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Natasha von Imhof (alternate)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Andy Josephson, Vice Chair                                                                                       
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Ivy Spohnholz                                                                                                    
Representative Jennifer Johnston                                                                                                
Representative Dan Ortiz (alternate)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Anna MacKinnon                                                                                                          
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                              
APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                             
EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                               
OTHER COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KRIS CURTIS, Legislative Auditor                                                                                                
Legislative Audit Division                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered a question regarding a statement                                                                
made during a prior hearing and provided information regarding                                                                  
audits and a sexual harassment policy.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:11:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BERT  STEDMAN  called the  Legislative  Budget  and  Audit                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at  10:11  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
Josephson, Spohnholz,  Johnston, Seaton (via  teleconference) and                                                               
Kawasaki  (via teleconference),  and  Senators Stedman,  Giessel,                                                               
Bishop  (via  teleconference),   and  Von  Imhof  (alternate)(via                                                               
teleconference)   were   present   at    the   call   to   order.                                                               
Representative Ortiz  (alternate)(via teleconference)  arrived as                                                               
the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                             
                       APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
10:12:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN announced the first  order of business would be the                                                               
approval of the agenda.  He  noted that there would be a proposed                                                               
modification to the agenda.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:12:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  moved that  the Legislative  Budget and                                                               
Audit Committee approve the agenda  with an amendment to move the                                                               
topic of Sexual Harassment Policy to [Other Committee Business].                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:13:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP objected.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN,  upon  determining Senator  Bishop's  objection                                                               
related to the  minutes of June 5, 2018, clarified  that a motion                                                               
for approval of minutes would be forthcoming.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  removed his  objection.   There being  no further                                                               
objection, the modified agenda was approved.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                            
                      APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
10:14:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be the approval of the minutes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:14:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON made a motion  to approve the minutes of                                                               
the June 5, 2018, meeting as presented.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:14:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:14:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  asked for  clarification from  Kris Curtis  as to                                                               
her remark  on page 6  of the June  5, 2018, minutes  regarding a                                                               
gas and development organization.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:15:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KRIS  CURTIS, Legislative  Auditor,  Legislative Audit  Division,                                                               
Alaska  State  Legislature,  clarified   that  the  name  of  the                                                               
corporation to  which she had referred  on June 5, 2018,  was the                                                               
Alaska Gasline Development Corporation (AGDC).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN removed his objection.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:16:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL objected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  made  a  motion  to  amend  the  aforementioned                                                               
sentence on  page 6 of the  June 5, 2018, minutes  to include the                                                               
name  Alaska Gasline  Development  Corporation.   There being  no                                                               
objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  removed her objection.   There being  no further                                                               
objection,  the  minutes  of  June  5,  2018,  as  amended,  were                                                               
approved.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                              
                       EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
10:18:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be  executive  session,  as  amended   in  the  adoption  of  the                                                               
[agenda].                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:18:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  made  a motion  that  the  Legislative                                                               
Budget  and  Audit  Committee go  into  executive  session  under                                                               
Uniform Rule 22 of the  Alaska State Legislature and AS 24.20.301                                                               
for the purpose of considering  the release of a Statewide Single                                                               
Audit for  fiscal year 2017 (FY  17); release of the  final audit                                                               
of the Department of Commerce,  Community & Economic Development,                                                               
Regulatory  Commission of  Alaska FY  17 Annual  Report; and  the                                                               
preliminary  audit of  the Department  of  Commerce, Community  &                                                               
Economic Development, Board of Marine Pilots sunset.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN  asked if there  was any objection.   [No objection                                                               
was stated.]                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN asked that the  following individuals remain in the                                                               
room  or online:   legislative  auditor,  Kris Kurtis;  necessary                                                               
staff of the  Legislative Audit Division; any  legislators not on                                                               
the  committee; and  any legislative  staff  for the  Legislative                                                               
Budget and Audit Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:19:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took  an at-ease from 10:20 a.m. to  11:06 a.m. for                                                               
the purpose of executive session.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:06:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN  brought the committee  back to order.   Present at                                                               
the  call  back  to  order  were  Representatives  Kawasaki  (via                                                               
teleconference),   Seaton    (via   teleconference),   Spohnholz,                                                               
Johnston,  Josephson and  Senators  Bishop (via  teleconference),                                                               
Giessel, Von Imhof (alternate, via teleconference), and Stedman.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN  announced there was  a quorum, as there  were nine                                                               
members of the committee present.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:08:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  made  a motion  that  the  Legislative                                                               
Budget   and  Audit   Committee  approve   the  release   of  the                                                               
preliminary audit  of the  Board of Marine  Pilots to  the agency                                                               
for formal comment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:08:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS  remarked that the  preliminary audit of the  Board of                                                               
Marine Pilots  would be released  to agencies for  formal comment                                                               
while the  two final audits would  be released to a  final public                                                               
document.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEDMAN removed  his objection.   There  being no  further                                                               
objection, the release  of the preliminary audit of  the Board of                                                               
Marine Pilots to the agency for formal comment was so ordered.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:09:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  made  a motion  that  the  Legislative                                                               
Budget  and Audit  Committee  approve the  release  of the  final                                                               
audit  for  the Regulatory  Commission  of  Alaska FY  17  Annual                                                               
Report  to the  public.   There  being no  objection,  it was  so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:09:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  made  a motion  that  the  Legislative                                                               
Budget  and   Audit  Committee  approve  the   release  of  final                                                               
Statewide Single Audit for FY 17 to the public.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN objected  for the purpose of discussion.   He asked                                                               
Ms. Curtis for a brief description of the timeline of the audit.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:09:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS stated  that the Statewide Single Audit for  FY 17 was                                                               
due to the federal government by  March 31, 2018, and it was late                                                               
for  three reasons.   The  first  reason was  that the  financial                                                               
audit  was delayed.   She  said  the opinion  of the  Legislative                                                               
Audit Division was due in  mid-December [2017] but was issued the                                                               
beginning of February.  She  explained the tardiness was mainly a                                                               
result of issues surrounding a  new state accounting system.  The                                                               
second reason was  there were 78 recommendations -  a high number                                                               
-  which  had  to  be  written  after  the  financial  audit  was                                                               
complete, and  "those didn't get  out until  end of March."   The                                                               
third reason,  she indicated,  was related  to the  Department of                                                               
Health  &  Social Services'  federal  programs  for audit  by  an                                                               
outside  auditor.   She said  that  report was  submitted to  the                                                               
Legislative  Audit  Division  in  May   -  six  months  late  and                                                               
significantly beyond the March 31 deadline.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEDMAN removed  his objection.   There  being no  further                                                               
objection, the motion passed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^OTHER COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                       
                    OTHER COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
11:10:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN announced that the final item on the agenda would                                                                 
be the Sexual Harassment Policy, which he said had been                                                                         
addressed by legislative groups over the last year.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:11:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  made  a motion  that  the  Legislative                                                               
Budget and  Audit Committee  approve the  adoption of  the Sexual                                                               
Harassment Policy for all Legislative  Budget and Audit Committee                                                               
employees other than those for Legislative Audit.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.  He                                                                       
requested Ms. Curtis offer an explanation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:11:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS stated as follows:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     A general  sexual harassment  policy applicable  to all                                                                    
     legislative  employees   was  adopted   by  Legislative                                                                    
     Council   this  past   session;  however,   Legislative                                                                    
     Council does  not set  personnel rules  for Legislative                                                                    
     Budget and Audit Committee  employees per AS 24.20.061.                                                                    
     So,  there really  is not  compelling  reason to  alter                                                                    
     this policy for LB&A  employees, except for Legislative                                                                    
     Audit.   So, I  do recommend  that the  committee adopt                                                                    
     that Legislative Council policy.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     But  for  Legislative  Audit:   we  must  maintain  our                                                                    
     independence ...  to ensure our actions  are nonbiased,                                                                    
     both  in  appearance  and  in  fact.    To  ensure  our                                                                    
     independence,  Legislative  Audit reports  directly  to                                                                    
     this  committee,  the   Legislative  Budget  and  Audit                                                                    
     Committee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     In  general,  [under]  the Legislative  Council  Sexual                                                                    
     Harassment  Policy,  complaints  are  directed  to  the                                                                    
     Legislative Affairs Agency, and  complaints can also be                                                                    
     filed   with  the   House  Chief   Clerk,  the   Senate                                                                    
     Secretary, the  Senate President, [and the]  Speaker of                                                                    
     the House.   So,  this process totally  circumvents the                                                                    
     Legislative Budget and Audit  Committee, when there are                                                                    
     complaints   with   Legislative    Audit,   which   was                                                                    
     inappropriate in this specific instance ....                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     To  address  this,  we   ...  took  that  [Legislative]                                                                    
     Council policy and we tailored  it ... specifically for                                                                    
     Legislative Audit  to ensure harassment  complaints are                                                                    
     reported to  [the] legislative  auditor ...  and/or the                                                                    
     chair of the Legislative Budget and Audit Committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:13:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS  noted that each  committee member  had a copy  of the                                                               
Sexual  Harassment Policy  [included  in  the committee  packet].                                                               
She said the Legislative Audit  Division made the minimal changes                                                               
necessary to  the Legislative Council's Sexual  Harassment Policy                                                               
to tailor  it to the  division.  [The  changes are outlined  in a                                                               
memorandum from Ms. Curtis, dated  June 28, 2018, included in the                                                               
committee packet].   She offered a  summary of the changes.   She                                                               
said all references  to legislators were removed.   She explained                                                               
there were  many references  regarding what  to do  in case  of a                                                               
legislative  complaint.     She  related  that   instead  of  the                                                               
Legislative  Affairs  Agency  (LAA)  manager,  Legislative  Audit                                                               
Division  employees would  report  to  the appointing  authority,                                                               
which  is the  legislative auditor,  and the  legislative auditor                                                               
would report  to the LB&A  chair; however, all  Legislative Audit                                                               
Division employees  would have the  choice to report  directly to                                                               
the LB&A chair.  Ms. Curtis  said the LAA standard complaint form                                                               
was tailored to the Legislative  Audit Division; under the formal                                                               
reporting  section of  that policy  the  reporting authority  was                                                               
limited  to the  reporting  authority or  LB&A  chair; under  the                                                               
investigation   section,  the   division   identified  that   the                                                               
appointing  authority  or the  LB&A  chair  may hire  an  outside                                                               
investigator  at his/her  discretion, which  includes asking  the                                                               
LAA human resource  manager to do the investigation.   Ms. Curtis                                                               
stated that  no changes  were made in  regard to  "definitions or                                                               
timelines or any other content of the policy."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:14:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL directed  attention to  the second  paragraph on                                                               
page  1   of  the  policy,   which  read  as   follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     All  legislative branch  employees and  Legislators who                                                                    
     knowingly  instigate or  participate  in harassment  in                                                                    
     violation   of  this   policy   will   be  subject   to                                                                    
     disciplinary  action  as   described  in  this  policy.                                                                    
     Supervisors   and   managers   who   knowingly   permit                                                                    
     harassment  activity without  taking corrective  action                                                                    
     will  be  subject  to disciplinary  action  up  to  and                                                                    
     including suspension or discharge.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL questioned why "and  Legislators" was included if                                                               
the policy  was being tailored specifically  for the [Legislative                                                               
Audit Division].                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS,  regarding both  the first  and second  paragraphs of                                                               
the policy,  indicated that she  did not  see the need  to change                                                               
any language regarding  the policy of the  legislature itself "to                                                               
maintain   a   workplace   that    is   free   of   all   illegal                                                               
discrimination."   She said, "I kept  those two policies as  is a                                                               
policy to  the legislature  itself."  She  referred to  the first                                                               
part of  the first sentence of  the second paragraph and  said it                                                               
is true.  She further offered  that she could change it; however,                                                               
she remarked that she was interested  in making as few changes as                                                               
possible  in  the  actual  policy, and  "because  this  was  more                                                               
background  information on  the  need for  the  policy, I  didn't                                                               
think ... anything to that as I was trying to minimize it."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL noted  that the rest of the  sentence states that                                                               
those  who violate  the policy  will be  subject to  disciplinary                                                               
action; therefore,  she opined that  it is inappropriate  to have                                                               
"and Legislators" in the first sentence of the second paragraph.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:16:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON said  he thinks  Senator Giessel  has a                                                               
point.   He asked  what the  procedure would  be if  a legislator                                                               
harassed an employee in the Legislative Audit Division.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS offered her understanding  that the complaint would be                                                               
brought  under the  LAA  policy because  the  complaint would  be                                                               
against the  legislator.  She  suggested that the  first sentence                                                               
in  the  second  paragraph  could  be  amended  to  read:    "All                                                               
Legislative   Audit   employees   who  knowingly   instigate   or                                                               
participate in  harassment in  violation of  this policy  will be                                                               
subject to disciplinary action as described in this policy."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:17:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ said she  thinks Senator Giessel's point                                                               
is a  fair one.   She  suggested a  need for  more clarity.   She                                                               
explained  that  it  is  not   clear  that  an  employee  of  the                                                               
Legislative  Audit  Division  who  is harassed  by  a  legislator                                                               
should take his/her complaint to Legislative Council.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS  replied  that  it  never  occurred  to  her  that  a                                                               
situation  could  occur  in  which   [a  legislator  harassed  an                                                               
employee within the Legislative Audit Division].                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ said  there have  been instances  where                                                               
legislators have been accused of  sexual harassment that occurred                                                               
"not in  the building" and  was taken through  official reporting                                                               
channels.    She  said  she  would be  more  comfortable  if  the                                                               
[policy] was more explicit.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:19:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS  suggested a  reference be added  at the  end stating,                                                               
"[For]  complaints  involving  legislators or  other  legislative                                                               
employees,  please see  [Legislative] Council  policy adopted  on                                                               
..."                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ said  she would  feel more  comfortable                                                               
with that language added.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS  suggested the  language could  be inserted  after the                                                               
second paragraph.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ responded, "In its own paragraph."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:19:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEDMAN  removed his  objection  to  the motion  that  the                                                               
Legislative Budget  and Audit Committee  approve the  adoption of                                                               
the  Sexual  Harassment Policy  for  all  Legislative Budget  and                                                               
Audit  Committee  employees  other  than  those  for  Legislative                                                               
Audit.   He  then  suggested  two amendments  be  offered to  the                                                               
policy.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:20:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JOSEPHSON   suggested   Senators   Giessel   and                                                               
Spohnholz make the motions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:20:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL made  a motion  to  adopt [Amendment  1] to  the                                                               
Legislative Audit  Sexual and Other Workplace  Harassment Policy,                                                               
as follows:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     On page 1, paragraph 2, first sentence:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Between "All" and "employees"                                                                                              
     Delete "legislative branch"                                                                                                
     Insert "Legislative Audit"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Following "employees"                                                                                                      
     Delete "and Legislators"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  clarified  that  with Amendment  1,  the  first                                                               
sentence  would  read:   "All  Legislative  Audit  employees  who                                                               
knowingly instigate or participate  in harassment in violation of                                                               
this policy will  be subject to disciplinary  action as described                                                               
in  this policy."   There  being  no objection,  Amendment 1  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:21:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  [moved] to  adopt [Amendment 2]  to the                                                               
Legislative Audit  Sexual and Other Workplace  Harassment Policy,                                                               
to  add  a  new  sentence  following  paragraph  2,  which  read:                                                               
"Complaints involving non-Legislative  Audit staff or legislators                                                               
should be filed according to  the Legislative Council Anti-Sexual                                                               
Harassment  Policy."    She  asked that  the  statute  number  be                                                               
inserted.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS interjected, "Or the date it was adopted."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  said, "The  date it  was adopted.   All                                                               
right.  Enter the date that it was adopted."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN  asked if there  was any objection to  Amendment 2.                                                               
There being none, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:22:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEDMAN   asked  if  there   was  any  objection   to  the                                                               
Legislative  Audit   Sexual  and  Other  Harassment   Policy,  as                                                               
amended.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:22:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  made  a motion  that  the  Legislative                                                               
Budget  and   Audit  Committee  approve   the  adoption   of  the                                                               
Legislative  Audit   Sexual  and  Other  Harassment   Policy,  as                                                               
amended.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:23:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS  stated,  "This additional  policy  is  necessary  to                                                               
ensure  Legislative   Audit  sexual  harassment   complaints  are                                                               
funneled through to the [Legislative  Budget and Audit] Committee                                                               
as opposed  to the Senate President  or the Speaker of  the House                                                               
or any other  LAA personnel ... to maintain  our independence and                                                               
be free from influence from outside [entities]."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:23:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEDMAN removed  his objection  to the  amendment.   There                                                               
being no further objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:23:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN discussed the timing of future meetings.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:24:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS  said the Legislative  Budget and Audit  Committee may                                                               
meet on September 10, 2018, and October 29, 2018.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:25:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  further  business  before  the  committee,  the                                                               
Legislative Budget  and Audit Committee meeting  was adjourned at                                                               
11:25 a.m.                                                                                                                      

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