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01/27/2022 01:30 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION

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01:33:34 PM Start
01:34:15 PM SB166
02:59:15 PM Adjourn
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         SB 166-G.O. BONDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:34:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 166                                                               
"An Act  providing for  and relating to  the issuance  of general                                                               
obligation  bonds for  the purpose  of paying  the cost  of state                                                               
infrastructure    projects,    including   construction,    major                                                               
maintenance, and port and  transportation projects; and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
NEIL  STEININGER,  Director,  Office of  Management  and  Budget,                                                               
Office  of  the  Governor,  Juneau,  Alaska,  on  behalf  of  the                                                               
administration,  stated   that  SB  166  would   support  General                                                               
Obligation   (GO)  Bonds:   State  Infrastructure   Projects  for                                                               
communities throughout  the state. This  GO Bond package  is part                                                               
of  the  governor's proposal  for  capital  expenditures for  the                                                               
state. This bill fits in  with the governor's priorities, timing,                                                               
and  staging  of  projects  to prepare  the  state  for  incoming                                                               
federal  infrastructure funds.  It  would also  help ensure  that                                                               
community  projects move  forward.  The  administration plans  to                                                               
finance  capital projects  via the  capital budget,  supplemental                                                               
appropriations,   issuance   of   GO  Bond,   and   the   federal                                                               
infrastructure  funding  in  the  next  several  years.  All  the                                                               
projects  fit  into the  midterm  GO  Bonds and  represent  needs                                                               
brought to the governor by communities throughout Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:36:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER  recalled that the  committee discussed a  GO Bond                                                               
bill last year. He asked if SB 166 contained the same projects.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER answered that this  GO Bond list was new, although                                                               
it contains  some of  the same  projects, including  the Bartlett                                                               
and  Moore   Hall  and  Craig   Harbor  projects.  He   said  the                                                               
administration used a different  approach when selecting projects                                                               
for this bill, but it is  similar to the overall GO Bond issuance                                                               
proposed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER said he thought it had changed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:38:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  STEININGER  offered  that  the state  has  $1.3  billion  in                                                               
overall debt capacity. This proposal  would issue $325,000,000 in                                                               
GO  Bonds,  definitely  within  the  state's  debt  capacity.  He                                                               
advised  that  the  debt  service  in  the  out  years  would  be                                                               
approximately  $20,600,000 to  $20,700,000  annually. This  would                                                               
provide  the state  with an  affordable option  and the  means to                                                               
leverage low-interest  rates when the state's  savings could earn                                                               
considerably more.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:39:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked if he had  an overall sense of  what portion                                                               
of the  projects would  be under construction  in one,  three, or                                                               
five years.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  STEININGER  estimated roughly  50  percent  of the  projects                                                               
would be  constructed in the  near term,  such as fire  halls. He                                                               
stated that, as with other  GO Bond packages, some projects would                                                               
take time to execute fully.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:41:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER  referred to the  $10,000,000 slated for  the Port                                                               
of Nome  - Deep Draft Port.  He recalled this project  is a high-                                                               
interest  project  regarding   national  security  and  fisheries                                                               
development in  the Arctic. He  recalled the state would  need to                                                               
provide   significantly   more   than  $10,000,000   to   receive                                                               
$280,000,000   from  the   federal  government.   He  asked   for                                                               
clarification  on  what  funds   were  required  to  develop  the                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER said he did not  recall the total project cost. He                                                               
explained that  the $10 million  was for federal  matching funds.                                                               
He  recalled a  recent announcement  from  the US  Army Corps  of                                                               
Engineers about  funding for this  project. These  matching funds                                                               
will help  leverage the  project now  that the  US Army  Corps of                                                               
Engineers funds are forthcoming.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  SHOWER stated  he was  interested in  the status  of the                                                               
state's  allocation process.  He acknowledged  the importance  of                                                               
the Port of Nome project.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:43:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL explained  he was interested in  the timing because                                                               
interest rates were beginning to  climb. He said he has questions                                                               
on private activity and interest rates on bonds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:43:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS said the committee could discuss that matter now.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL said  he did not recall the state  issuing GO bonds                                                               
that had  a private activity qualifier  in the past. He  asked if                                                               
that was something the state had previously done.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEININGER  deferred  to  Mr.  Mitchell,  the  state's  debt                                                               
manager.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:44:28 PM                                                                                                                    
DEVEN   MITCHELL,   State   Debt  Manager,   Treasury   Division,                                                               
Department of  Revenue, Juneau, Alaska, answered  that the fiscal                                                               
note relates  to an  analysis that must  occur for  all municipal                                                               
bond  issues under  consideration  for tax  exemption. He  stated                                                               
that  private  use  issues  could  lead to  a  bond  issue  being                                                               
categorized as  something other than being  fully tax-exempt. For                                                               
example, one would  expect a public school or a  road open to any                                                               
traveler always  to be tax-exempt.  However, a facility  that has                                                               
private  entities  leasing, such  as  a  boat harbor,  such  that                                                               
private  activity  could  lead  to bonds  being  subject  to  the                                                               
Alternative  Minimum  Tax  (AMT). This  means  certain  investors                                                               
would need  to pay  income tax  on the  income from  those bonds,                                                               
which would lead to a higher interest rate.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:45:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MITCHELL explained  that some of the GO Bond  projects on the                                                               
list  might  have private  activity,  but  it  would be  a  small                                                               
percentage of the total.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:45:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL asked  whether historically  state  GO bonds  have                                                               
been subject to  the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT).  He asked for                                                               
the interest rate delta.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL  explained that  the  private  activity rules  have                                                               
evolved. There has  been a tightening of  the projects classified                                                               
as subject  to the AMT.  Thus, the  state has avoided  having AMT                                                               
series  bonds on  the  GO  Bond level.  For  example, the  Alaska                                                               
International  Airport System  terminal  projects, where  private                                                               
airlines  or concessions  lease space,  would be  subject to  the                                                               
AMT,  just  as  for  harbor projects.  However,  several  airport                                                               
projects in SB  166 for airport improvements would  be fully tax-                                                               
exempt.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MITCHELL related  that  although  the state  has  not had  a                                                               
pattern of issuing  AMT bonds in the past, it  is not unusual for                                                               
municipal port,  harbor, and bond  projects to be subject  to the                                                               
tax. The US has  experienced an extraordinarily low-interest-rate                                                               
environment. Interest  rates are  at the  bottom quartile  of all                                                               
time and probably  in the bottom 10 percent.  He acknowledged the                                                               
trend of rising interest rates over  the last year was focused on                                                               
the short  end of the yield  curve. He elaborated that  when bond                                                               
issues are sold,  the principal matures each  year throughout the                                                               
bond issue. Each one has an  interest rate correlated to its year                                                               
of maturity.  Generally, the interest  rates rise from  the yield                                                               
curve. On  the short end,  interest rates have raised  one-half a                                                               
percent, and on the  long end of 30 years, it  would be more like                                                               
15 to 20  basis points or 15 percent. He  said the expectation is                                                               
that rates  could rise  over the next  year. Banks  and financial                                                               
institutions  predict  increased  interest  rates  of  1  to  1.5                                                               
percent and  25 to 50  basis points on  the long end.  The fiscal                                                               
notes reflected interest  rates that were 50  basis points higher                                                               
than what could be achieved  today to hedge against future rising                                                               
interest rates.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:49:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER asked  what  the bottom  10  percent of  interest                                                               
rates meant. He  wondered about the effect world  events, such as                                                               
Ukraine  or the  dollar losing  its status  as the  world reserve                                                               
currency,  would have  on GO  Bonds. He  expressed reluctance  in                                                               
issuing GO Bonds when the world continues to be in turmoil.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL answered  that being in the bottom  10 percent means                                                               
that interest rates  would be higher 90 percent of  the time. The                                                               
state is in a unique position  in terms of world events since the                                                               
Alaska  Permanent  Fund  provides a  broad-based,  diverse  asset                                                               
allocation  fund invested  for  the long  term.  Thus, Alaska  is                                                               
naturally  hedged against  world  events in  some  ways. Even  if                                                               
subject to the AMT, issuing  bonds that qualify for tax exemption                                                               
provide a  significant advantage. On  its face, if the  state had                                                               
the money  in the  bank and invested  in similar  securities that                                                               
were taxable, the  state would make more money than  it would pay                                                               
in  interest expenses.  He acknowledged  that  would take  fiscal                                                               
discipline,  but it  is a  smart financial  move to  have a  debt                                                               
program when the state has access to tax-exempt financing.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER asked  when the interest rate  would become locked                                                               
in.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL  answered that  the interest rate  is not  locked in                                                               
until the  bonds are sold.  Thus, the  state would be  exposed to                                                               
interest rates,  credit ratings, and  tax risks to the  extent of                                                               
future changes.  Still, in his  experience, GO Bonds take  a long                                                               
time  to  realize  maturity  regarding  project  development  and                                                               
expenditure  of proceeds.  For example,  the 2002  Transportation                                                               
Act sold the  last issue of over $100,000,000 in  2010. It took a                                                               
decade to  spend the money.  He agreed that interest  rates could                                                               
change  drastically in  5 to  10 years.  He characterized  the GO                                                               
Bonds as a  thoughtful way to accommodate a  capital program with                                                               
a  financial tax  advantage versus  cash. He  opined that  it was                                                               
worth considering  on a conservative basis.  He cautioned against                                                               
overborrowing, but certainly, the state is not in that position.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER said he wanted the record to reflect this.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:54:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS turned  to the specific General  Obligation Bond (GO)                                                               
projects in SB  166, beginning with Craig  Harbor, [Reference No.                                                               
63333 for $8,300,000].                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL asked  what  process the  committee  would use  to                                                               
consider these GO Bond projects.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:54:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STEININGER offered to briefly explain each project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MYERS agreed that would be sufficient.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEININGER  said the  Craig  Harbor  project for  $8,300,000                                                               
would provide matching funds to complete the project.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MYERS asked whether this project was underway.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:55:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  STEININGER explained  that the  city purchased  the property                                                               
and  has  access  to  some  money  but  it  needs  an  additional                                                               
$8,300,000 to  commit and  complete the  project. He  stated that                                                               
other funds support the overall project cost.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:56:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL recalled  that this project was included  in the GO                                                               
Bond package  for $4.5  million last year,  but the  figures have                                                               
almost  doubled in  cost. He  asked what  changed in  the overall                                                               
cost and the administration's position on the project.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER replied that the  administration proposes to fully                                                               
fund the project. As the  committee may recall, the governor's GO                                                               
Bond proposal  last year  contained significantly  more projects,                                                               
but not every  project received full funding.  This would provide                                                               
the total amount needed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER said, as Mr.  Mitchell mentioned, the state has an                                                               
opportunity  to   take  advantage   of  low-interest   rates.  He                                                               
explained  that   capital  projects  supported   by  unrestricted                                                               
general  funds  were not  taking  advantage  of the  low-interest                                                               
rates.  He   said  the  administration  supports   the  financing                                                               
mechanism  to achieve  the projects  but does  not believe  it is                                                               
prudent to spend  unrestricted general funds (UGF)  that could be                                                               
earning money  to pay down the  debt. He summarized that  it came                                                               
down to  the financing mechanism  rather than any issue  with the                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:58:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER  asked him to provide  specific project timelines,                                                               
including when  he anticipated  that the GO  bond funds  would be                                                               
allocated  and the  construction timeframe.  He wondered  why the                                                               
state  was considering  issuing  $300 million  in  GO bonds  when                                                               
federal infrastructure funding is forthcoming.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:59:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STEININGER  stated that he  would not  give a robust  view of                                                               
the  project timeline,  but  he  offered to  report  back to  the                                                               
committee   with   supporting   documents.  While   the   federal                                                               
infrastructure bill  will bring  substantial funds to  the state,                                                               
including  projects  the  US Army  Corps  of  Engineers  recently                                                               
identified,  these  projects  are  primarily  federal  government                                                               
priorities,  except for  the  Surface  Transportation Program  or                                                               
Village Safe Water  Program. He related that the  state could not                                                               
provide  input to  prioritize  the projects.  Thus,  the GO  Bond                                                               
package   allows  the   administration  to   make  Alaska-centric                                                               
prioritizations.  Another benefit  is that  the GO  Bond proposal                                                               
can include  projects ready to  be executed, whereas  the federal                                                               
allocations  will  take time  to  work  through the  process.  He                                                               
stated that  the state  was staging projects  and funding  in the                                                               
regular capital  budget, the GO  Bond package, and  some projects                                                               
at the federal level.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:02:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER wondered  whether it  was wise  to bond  for $300                                                               
million  since the  state does  not know  which projects  will be                                                               
funded in the federal Infrastructure  and Investment and Jobs Act                                                               
(IIJA).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS  turned  to  the  Craig  Mariculture  Infrastructure                                                               
project, [Reference No. 64164 for $5,000,000].                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:03:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STEININGER  explained that this would  provide matching funds                                                               
for  a federal  grant to  fund the  Craig Mariculture  Processing                                                               
Facility. It also helps address  policy considerations for future                                                               
food security in Alaska to help build a more sustainable future.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:03:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS  asked whether this  would fall  under the AMT  or if                                                               
the project would be tax-exempt.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER deferred to Mr. Mitchell.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:04:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MITCHELL  responded  that  to  the  extent  the  mariculture                                                               
industry for-profit businesses were  using the facility, it could                                                               
be subject  to an AMT. He  characterized it as similar  to a boat                                                               
harbor that  leases its slips  to private parties  or businesses.                                                               
The  private  activity  would  result in  the  tax  status  being                                                               
slightly  worse than  if the  building was  a fully  governmental                                                               
public building.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:05:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS  turned  to the  Kenai  River  Bluff  Stabilization,                                                               
[Reference No: 64165 for $6,500,000].                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.   STEININGER  explained   that  this   would  provide   match                                                               
assistance to  the City of Kenai  for a federal grant  to support                                                               
the Kenai Bluff  Stabilization Project. In addition,  the City of                                                               
Kenai has secured $4 million for this $30 million project.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:05:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked for  an overview  of the  project, including                                                               
the number of river miles and materials needed.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEININGER said  he was  unsure of  the number  of miles  of                                                               
riverbank that this project would stabilize.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:06:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS  turned  to   the  Ketchikan  International  Airport                                                               
Terminal, [Reference No. 64163 for $7,500,000].                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER explained that the  state owns the runway, but the                                                               
City  of  Ketchikan  manages the  airport  terminal.  This  would                                                               
provide a grant  to the city to enhance capacity  and improve the                                                               
safety and efficiency  of travel and operations  at the Ketchikan                                                               
International  Airport.  He  said  the  City  of  Ketchikan  also                                                               
provides funding  for this project. He  related his understanding                                                               
that the project was in progress.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:07:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  wondered if the  runway resurfacing listed  on the                                                               
backup was  appropriate for  GO Bond  or if  it was  eligible for                                                               
Airport Improvement Program (AIP) funds.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER deferred to Commissioner Designee Anderson.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:07:53 PM                                                                                                                    
RYAN    ANDERSON,    Commissioner   Designee,    Department    of                                                               
Transportation  and Public  Facilities  (DOTPF), Juneau,  Alaska,                                                               
explained  that   runway  or  taxiway  projects   were  typically                                                               
eligible  for AIP  funds. It  can  be advantageous  to use  state                                                               
funds since the state can  accomplish the projects quicker in the                                                               
state process  by combining steps and  working them concurrently,                                                               
but the federal process is more cumbersome.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:08:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL wondered if GO Bonding  was the best way to finance                                                               
the airport projects.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:08:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS turned  to the Knik Arm  Port Infrastructure project,                                                               
[Reference No. 55043 for $175,000,000].                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:08:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STEININGER explained that Knik  Arm Port Infrastructure would                                                               
provide  $175  million  for  the  Knik  Arm  Port  Infrastructure                                                               
Project, which includes  the Port of Alaska,  Port Mackenzie, and                                                               
connecting transportation  links. He  said this project  does not                                                               
provide a specific distribution between  the two ports. The state                                                               
would   look  to   the   two  ports   to   coordinate  the   port                                                               
infrastructure in a manner best for the region.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:09:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER emphasized  that  the two  entities have  ongoing                                                               
issues  and  have  not  agreed  on  the  project  allocation.  He                                                               
highlighted that  he questions this  funding allocation  since no                                                               
port  authority  exists.  He  related   that  each  entity  needs                                                               
approximately   $1   billion   to   accomplish   the   waterfront                                                               
infrastructure. He  acknowledged that  the project  is necessary,                                                               
but the  committee might  need to  drill down  to figure  out the                                                               
allocation. He asked if the administration had any suggestions.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER  answered that the  administration would  like the                                                               
two entities  to come together  and decide  what is best  for the                                                               
entire region, including  goal-oriented collaboration between the                                                               
two  entities. He  commented that  the committee's  suggestion to                                                               
hold a  hearing to talk through  the solutions is one  reason the                                                               
project was included.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:13:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  suggested  that the  administration  delete  the                                                               
language  that refers  to a  nonexistent regional  port authority                                                               
and  require  a Memorandum  of  Understanding  (MOU) between  the                                                               
entities  to determine  how  to  divvy up  the  $175 million.  He                                                               
expressed  concern  that  this   proposal  would  create  tension                                                               
between the two entities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:14:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS  turned to  the Kodiak  Fire Station,  [Reference No:                                                               
AMD 64199 for $15,000,000].                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER  explained that this would  provide $15,000,000 to                                                               
replace the Kodiak Fire Station  damaged in the 2018 Southcentral                                                               
earthquake. He  related that  it was  located within  the tsunami                                                               
hazard zone. The  City of Kodiak has funded  site selection, pre-                                                               
development, concept  design, and geotechnical site  analysis for                                                               
a new fire station.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:15:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER asked  if the  funds  were enough  for the  total                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER offered  to research this and respond  back to the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:15:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS turned to the  Nenana Fire Hall, [Reference No. 64169                                                               
for $5,000,000].                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER said this would  provide $5 million to construct a                                                               
new fire hall.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MYERS noted  that the  City of  Nenana also  contacted him                                                               
about the project.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:16:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER remarked  that the Nenana Fire Hall,  located in a                                                               
remote area on the Parks Highway, is falling apart.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:16:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  concurred. He said  the photos show the  fire hall                                                               
is worn  out. He asked  how the administration compiled  the list                                                               
of public  safety facilities  for GO Bonding.  He noted  that the                                                               
fire hall in Haines also needed to be replaced.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER explained that  the administration reviewed public                                                               
safety  needs  regionally,  staying  within  a  target  range  of                                                               
bonding  capacity. He  acknowledged that  the administration  was                                                               
not trying  to solve  every public  safety need  in this  GO Bond                                                               
package.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:17:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS turned  to  the  Port of  Nome  -  Deep Draft  Port,                                                               
[Reference No. 62451, for $10,000,000].                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEININGER explained  that the  overall cost  for all  three                                                               
phases of  the Port of Nome  project was $642 million,  with $417                                                               
million  in  federal  funding and  $225  million  in  non-federal                                                               
receipts. He reported  that Phase 1 estimates  were $397 million,                                                               
with $250 million  in federal receipts. The state  would use this                                                               
funding in collaboration  with the US Army Corps  of Engineers to                                                               
achieve  the  required   match.  He  added  that   the  state  is                                                               
investigating  whether it  can  accommodate  some matching  funds                                                               
with in-kind activities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:18:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  asked whether  this  request  would provide  $10                                                               
million towards the non-federal funding.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:18:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STEININGER  answered that  is correct.  He reported  that the                                                               
non-federal portion of Phase 1 of this project is $147 million.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  SHOWER  remarked that  the  state  would still  be  $137                                                               
million short. He  said he did not recall  the amount contributed                                                               
by corporations, the unorganized borough, or the community.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEININGER responded  that  the $10  million  GO Bond  funds                                                               
would  start the  project, but  he was  unsure of  the amount  of                                                               
community  funding for  the project.  He  agreed that  additional                                                               
funding would be needed to complete the project.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:19:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER asked for the Phase 1 federal match amount.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER  responded that  the federal  funding for  Phase 1                                                               
was $250 million, and the remaining portion was $147 million.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SHOWER requested more information  on the federal, local,                                                               
and state  funding breakdown for  the Port  of Nome -  Deep Draft                                                               
Port project.  He expressed concern  that the state  would invest                                                               
$10  million in  the project,  but the  remaining matching  funds                                                               
might not materialize. He characterized  this project as economic                                                               
development  that  is  good  for  the  state  regarding  national                                                               
security  issues.  He predicted  that  this  would be  a  50-year                                                               
project. These are the types  of projects the state should invest                                                               
in  for   many  reasons,  including  national   security,  arctic                                                               
strategy, resource, and private development.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER agreed to provide more information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:21:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS  turned  to  Warren  "Bud"  Woods  Palmer  Municipal                                                               
Airport Taxiway, [Reference No: 64168 for $6,500,000].                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEININGER explained  that this  would provide  $6.5 million                                                               
for the Palmer  Municipal Airport for taxiway work  on runway 10-                                                               
28.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:21:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL pointed  out that  this  project already  includes                                                               
$500,000  in federal  AIP funds.  He  asked what  portion of  the                                                               
project was eligible for federal AIP funds.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEININGER answered  that the  administration would  like to                                                               
use  GO  Bonds for  some  airport  projects because  state  money                                                               
allows more flexibility and expediency.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:22:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked whether the  state retains  that flexibility                                                               
when  the  project has  already  received  some federal  aviation                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:22:55 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  DESIGNEE ANDERSON  responded that  the state  still                                                               
has advantages  even when the  project funding is  mixed funding.                                                               
He explained  that the federally funded  project requirements are                                                               
very  strict. Thus,  projects  can be  build  faster using  state                                                               
funds   than  the   federal  process   since  it   might  restart                                                               
environmental documents.  He related that another  advantage with                                                               
state funds  was expanded  flexibility. He  was unsure  where the                                                               
project was  ranked in  the overall  availability of  federal AIP                                                               
funding since  over 230 airports  in the state compete  for these                                                               
funds. Using  GO Bonds  fund this project  means that  the Palmer                                                               
taxiway construction work will get done.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:24:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked whether  the  taxiway  work would  use  AIP                                                               
competitive funding or AIP entitlement funding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER DESIGNEE  ANDERSON responded that he  was unfamiliar                                                               
with the specific AIP source.  Still, typically there is some AIP                                                               
discretionary and  entitlement funding, depending on  the airport                                                               
project ranking on the list.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL remarked  that it might be  worthwhile to determine                                                               
whether the project  would use AIP competitive  funding. He spoke                                                               
in support of  the Palmer airport expansion  project. However, as                                                               
Mr. Steininger remarked,  these are projects best  funded with GO                                                               
Bonds rather than UGF to allow  the state to engage in arbitrage.                                                               
He emphasized that  the difference between the  6 percent federal                                                               
AIP match and  100 percent of the project was  too significant to                                                               
make up for arbitrage.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:25:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER recalled that during  last year's GO Bond bill [SB
74]  discussions, the  committee  discovered  that some  projects                                                               
were  already  funded. He  asked  whether  every  one of  the  GO                                                               
projects in SB 166 was currently unfunded.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER  responded that last  year's issue arose  when the                                                               
administration  listed several  airport projects  already slotted                                                               
for AIP  funding. However,  that is  not the  case this  year. He                                                               
explained that the City of  Palmer requested the Palmer Municipal                                                               
Airport Taxiway  Construction project. Some of  the projects have                                                               
other sources of funding, such as  the US Army Corps of Engineers                                                               
federal funding for  the Port of Nome - Deep  Draft Port project.                                                               
However, the GO  Bond funds do not fully fund  the projects. Most                                                               
of the  projects in  SB 166  are supplemented  by other  funds to                                                               
achieve  the  entire  project  rather than  the  GO  Bonds  fully                                                               
funding them.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:27:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER  reiterated that last  year the  committee learned                                                               
that some of the GO Bond  projects [in SB 74] were already slated                                                               
for funding.  He asked for  verification that this  project needs                                                               
GO Bond funding and is not scheduled for other funding.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER answered yes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:28:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS turned  to the next project, the  Seward Freight Dock                                                               
Expansion  and Corridor  Improvements,  Reference  No: 62613  for                                                               
$5,000,000.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:28:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STEININGER  explained that the existing  Alaska Railroad dock                                                               
in  Seward  was  constructed  in 1966  and  predicted  to  become                                                               
unusable by 2023  or 2024 without reconstructing  portions of the                                                               
dock.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:29:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS stated  that some funds were put  towards the project                                                               
in 2017  and 2019. He asked  whether this was enough  to make the                                                               
dock  serviceable or  if this  would partially  fund the  overall                                                               
reconstruction.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:29:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  STEININGER answered  that some  parts of  the dock  would be                                                               
reconstructed  and  expanded.  He  remarked  that  he  could  not                                                               
predict whether the dock would  need additional work, but this GO                                                               
Bond  funding will  address significant  repairs  and enable  the                                                               
dock to be used.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:29:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  highlighted that  the  state  has food  security                                                               
needs. He  recalled briefings that raised  concerns about whether                                                               
freight could  be moved from  Seward because the  Alaska Railroad                                                               
lacked rail  cars. He asked  whether the  GO Bond funds  would be                                                               
spent, but the  facility would not be usable. He  wondered if the                                                               
funding was misallocated and would be  better used at the Port of                                                               
Whittier.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:31:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STEININGER  said he  would research this  and report  back to                                                               
the committee. He characterized it  as a much broader question on                                                               
how this project fits into the overall Seward structure.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:32:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER  asked Commissioner  Designee Anderson  to comment                                                               
on this.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:32:22 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER DESIGNEE  ANDERSON stated that enhancing  the Seward                                                               
Dock  would  provide  resiliency   to  the  Alaska  Railroad.  He                                                               
acknowledged that he  was not familiar with  the project details,                                                               
but he characterized it as an actual, tangible project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:33:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER   maintained  his  interest  in   obtaining  more                                                               
information and  the assurance that  rail traffic will  happen if                                                               
the Seward Freight Dock Expansion project moves forward.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:33:50 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  recalled that the  Seward [Cruise  Ship Terminal],                                                               
the adjacent  dock, plans to expand  from 600 to 1000  feet. This                                                               
project would  expand the Alaska  Railroad dock from 700  to 1000                                                               
feet. He expressed  concern that the Seward  Cruise Ship Terminal                                                               
Project  was  $70,000,000,  but  this  project  cost  funding  is                                                               
$10,000,000.  He recalled  the Alaska  Railroad dock  received $5                                                               
million in prior funding, and  SB 166 would provide an additional                                                               
$5  million. Although  the projects  seem comparably  scaled, the                                                               
overall cost is  substantially different. He asked  for the scope                                                               
and scale of the Alaska Railroad doc project.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:34:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STEININGER  responded that this project's  scope would expand                                                               
the Alaska  Railroad dock  from 620 to  1,000 feet,  bringing the                                                               
dock into deeper  water. He advised members he  could not compare                                                               
the  two projects'  costs  since  he was  not  familiar with  the                                                               
Seward Cruise Ship project.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:35:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  asked whether  the  committee  could obtain  the                                                               
figures for the two projects.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MYERS agreed to provide the information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:35:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS turned  to  the next  project,  the Wasilla  Airport                                                               
Runway and Terminal, Reference No: 64167, for $14,100,000.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:35:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STEININGER  explained that this project's  scope would extend                                                               
the  runway to  5,100 feet  to accommodate  larger aircraft.  The                                                               
City of Wasilla owns and  operates the airport, and the community                                                               
requested  $14.1  million in  funding.  The  Army National  Guard                                                               
Aviation Group  has recommended a  runway of at least  5,000 feet                                                               
to accommodate  aircraft used for  pilot training and for  use as                                                               
an alternate airport.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:35:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL stated  that the project backup  indicates that the                                                               
runway extension  would serve larger military  aircraft. However,                                                               
the  federal  Infrastructure  Investment   and  Jobs  Act  (IIJA)                                                               
provides significant  defense funds.  He asked whether  the state                                                               
has reviewed those funding categories.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER  offered to research  this and report back  to the                                                               
committee.  He explained  that the  administration was  assessing                                                               
the  federal infrastructure  funding.  For example,  the US  Army                                                               
Corps  of  Engineers provided  some  funding  for these  GO  Bond                                                               
projects. He  advised that future releases  of the infrastructure                                                               
bill  could   supplement  these  projects  but   may  have  match                                                               
requirements.  Some  of the  GO  Bond  funds  could be  used  for                                                               
matching  funds.  He related  that  as  that information  becomes                                                               
available, the administration will  update the process and inform                                                               
the legislature  of any changes.  However, he was unaware  of any                                                               
funds that would cover the project at this time.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:37:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS asked  Mr. Binder to weigh in on  the Wasilla Airport                                                               
Runway and Terminal Project.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:37:37 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  BINDER,  Deputy  Commissioner, Executive  Director,  Alaska                                                               
International  Airport System,  Department of  Transportation and                                                               
Public   Facilities  (DOTPF),   Anchorage,   Alaska,  asked   for                                                               
clarification that  the committee  was interested in  whether the                                                               
Wasilla  Airport  Runway and  Terminal  Project  was federal  AIP                                                               
eligible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MYERS answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BINDER noted that the state  does not own this airport, so he                                                               
was not wholly familiar with  the project. However, some items on                                                               
the  capital  request  have  several things  that  could  be  AIP                                                               
eligible,  depending upon  the type  of activity  at the  Wasilla                                                               
Airport. He  elaborated that extending  the runway,  adding lease                                                               
lots,  and  tie-downs  may  be  AIP  eligible,  but  the  Federal                                                               
Aviation  Administration (FAA)  will determine  that eligibility.                                                               
Typically,  if airports  have large  aircraft attempting  to land                                                               
but cannot land due to the  runway length, or the airplane cannot                                                               
tie down due to  a lack of apron space, those  costs would be AIP                                                               
eligible. However,  he stated  he could  not currently  make that                                                               
assessment on the Wasilla Municipal Airport project.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:38:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER related  his understanding  that  Palmer was  not                                                               
interested in expanding  its airport, but the City  of Wasilla is                                                               
willing to  do so.  The Wasilla Airport  does not  currently have                                                               
any  significant commercial  operations, and  it lacks  a control                                                               
tower. He  pointed out that Big  Lake, located a few  miles away,                                                               
has  a dirt  runway  with a  very high-frequency  omnidirectional                                                               
range (VOR) short-range radio navigation  system for aircraft, so                                                               
training  occurs there.  He characterized  the Wasilla  Municipal                                                               
Airport  as  a  small,  general aviation  airport.  The  City  of                                                               
Wasilla  would  like to  expand  the  airport to  attract  larger                                                               
commercial aircraft.  He was  unsure of its  standing on  the FAA                                                               
AIP list. He  surmised that the project would  likely qualify for                                                               
federal  AIP funding  since the  construction involves  expanding                                                               
the  apron,  building a  passenger  terminal,  and expanding  the                                                               
runway to  support larger aircraft  such as the US  Army National                                                               
Guard or commercial aircraft.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:40:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS  turned to  the  next  project, the  Juneau  Access,                                                               
Reference No: 64162, for $25,000,000.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:40:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  STEININGER  stated  that the  following  two  projects  were                                                               
directly managed  by the Department of  Transportation and Public                                                               
Facilities   (DOTPF).  He   deferred  to   Commissioner  Designee                                                               
Anderson to provide details. He  explained that the Juneau Access                                                               
request for $25  million would improve transportation  in and out                                                               
of Juneau.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:41:21 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  DESIGNEE ANDERSON  characterized the  Juneau Access                                                               
Project as  a legacy project  to consider  transportation options                                                               
in the Northern Lynn Canal.  These funds would explore options to                                                               
improve   the    transportation   corridor.   He    related   his                                                               
understanding  that previous  analysis  considered  all modes  of                                                               
transportation,  and  he  did  not  believe  this  would  be  any                                                               
different.  The  goal  would  focus   on  providing  people  with                                                               
additional  transportation  options,   reducing  state  and  user                                                               
costs,  and  reducing  travel times.  Again,  state  funds  would                                                               
provide flexibility that federal  funds lack due to restrictions.                                                               
He stated that  the GO Bond funds could also  be used as matching                                                               
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:42:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS asked  whether these funds were to  study the project                                                               
and get it  up and running in anticipation of  using federal IIJA                                                               
funds for construction.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  DESIGNEE ANDERSON  answered that  he described  one                                                               
scenario, but he did not  believe the administration had made any                                                               
final decisions on the Juneau Access project.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:43:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked  if GO bonds could be used  for studies or if                                                               
the funding must be used for construction.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEININGER responded  that the  administration believes  the                                                               
Juneau  Access Project  is bondable,  noting that  the bill  went                                                               
through a  legal review before  introduction. The $25  million in                                                               
GO Bond  funds would potentially support  a construction project.                                                               
He deferred  to the  commissioner to speak  to the  Juneau Access                                                               
project  phases.  However,  he  pointed  out  that  all  projects                                                               
require  some planning  and coordination  that  attribute to  the                                                               
overall project cost.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:44:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  asked  if  the funding  for  the  Juneau  Access                                                               
Project  would provide  a  $25  million study  for  a "Bridge  to                                                               
Nowhere" rather than actually laying steel or concrete.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   DESIGNEE  ANDERSON   answered   that  first,   the                                                               
department  would  ensure  that   the  department  completed  the                                                               
appropriate  work.  He  said  DOT&PF  would  have  no  reason  to                                                               
reproduce work.  He maintained that  state funding  has different                                                               
requirements,  and  the  department   uses  that  flexibility  to                                                               
provide  cost-effective   analyses.  He  acknowledged   that  the                                                               
department  uses  a  process  to ensure  that  it  completes  the                                                               
necessary planning,  environmental, permitting,  and right-of-way                                                               
work  before any  construction happens.  He assured  members that                                                               
the department intends  to put the money to good  use. He offered                                                               
his view that a substantial amount  of work has already been done                                                               
on this project.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:47:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER responded that he  must explain the funding to his                                                               
constituents.  He emphasized  that this  project was  challenging                                                               
since  it would  use  GO Bonds  and not  construct  the road.  He                                                               
related his  expectation that GO  Bond projects would  be shovel-                                                               
ready.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:48:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS turned  to  the Northern  Access  to the  University                                                               
Medical  District  (UMED)  project,   Reference  No:  43056,  for                                                               
$22,000,000.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:48:18 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER DESIGNEE  ANDERSON explained that these  funds would                                                               
get  the  Northern  Access to  the  University  Medical  District                                                               
(UMED) project moving again. He  stated that these funds could be                                                               
handed  off  to  the  Municipality  of  Anchorage  (MOA)  or  the                                                               
University of Alaska for completion. He related that right-of-                                                                  
way and  utilities were sequential  steps in the  federal process                                                               
but  using  GO  Bonds  and  the state  process  would  allow  the                                                               
department to combine processes.  For example, the department can                                                               
reduce some  project timelines from  three to seven years  to two                                                               
to three years using state  funds. He anticipated cost savings by                                                               
coordinating the overall efforts.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:49:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked whether the  Department of Transportation and                                                               
Public Facilities  (DOTPF) has secured the  right-of-way for this                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER DESIGNEE ANDERSON answered no.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:50:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked  for  the status  of  the  local  municipal                                                               
approval and the roadway length.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  DESIGNEE ANDERSON  offered to  research and  report                                                               
back  to the  committee.  He recalled  substantial discussion  on                                                               
whether the final roadway  would be a 2 or 4 lane  road and if it                                                               
would include pedestrian overpasses.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:51:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL said he heard the proposed roadway was short.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MYERS  surmised from viewing  Google maps that  the project                                                               
length was roughly a mile.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:51:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS  turned to  the  University  of Alaska  Fairbanks  -                                                               
Bartlett  Hall   and  Moore   Hall  Modernization   and  Renewal,                                                               
Reference No: 45644, for $18,650,000.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. STEININGER  explained this $18.7  million project  would make                                                               
significant upgrades throughout the  Bartlett Hall and Moore Hall                                                               
buildings. He deferred to Chad Hutchison to respond.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:52:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAD  HUTCHISON,  Director  of  State  Relations,  University  of                                                               
Alaska,  Fairbanks,  Alaska,  stated   that  this  project  would                                                               
renovate  the two  largest university  residence halls.  Bartlett                                                               
Hall  and Moore  Hall are  approximately eight  stories high  and                                                               
house 650 undergraduate and graduate  students. He explained that                                                               
the guts of the building are  rotting from the inside out, and it                                                               
suffers from  an imminent total  water and sewer  system failure.                                                               
He  related that  the department  had done  the design  work, and                                                               
construction could occur after voter approval.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:53:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER asked  whether there were any  matching funds from                                                               
the University  of Alaska  Fairbanks or  the local  community. He                                                               
asked whether this represents the total project cost.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:54:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HUTCHISON answered that the  project was wholly state-funded,                                                               
that there is no federal match  or private funding. He offered to                                                               
provide any additional information members needed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:55:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER asked  whether UAF had any  backup funding planned                                                               
if the GO Bond package failed.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON answered  that the  university would  consider the                                                               
capital budget  as an  avenue to  explore. He  characterized that                                                               
this project was  the highest need throughout the  UAF system. He                                                               
pointed  out that  the  university  houses wildfire  firefighters                                                               
during the summer.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:56:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  related his understanding that  this project would                                                               
completely replace  the plumbing  and lighting. He  asked whether                                                               
this would bring  the Bartlett Hall and Moore  Hall residences up                                                               
to speed or if other repairs would be necessary.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON   answered  yes;  this  project   will  completely                                                               
demolish   the  stacked   restrooms  renovate   the  ventilation,                                                               
electrical,  and  plumbing  systems  to  ensure  compliance  with                                                               
building codes. He  reported that the systems  routinely fail, so                                                               
the  facility's  team has  been  scrambling  to maintain  minimum                                                               
standards.  This project  should  adequately  house students  for                                                               
decades to come.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:58:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS held SB 166 in committee.                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB166 GO Bond Project Backup 1.27.22.pdf STRA 1/27/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 GO Bond List 01.27.22.pdf STRA 1/27/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Fiscal Note REV.PDF STRA 1/27/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Version A.PDF STRA 1/27/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 166