Legislature(2015 - 2016)BUTROVICH 205

02/12/2015 09:00 AM STATE AFFAIRS

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08:58:14 AM Start
08:58:39 AM Overview: Department of Administration
10:13:18 AM SB36
10:42:35 AM Adjourn
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Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
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Ballot Measure No. 2 (13PSUM) - An Act to Tax
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          SB 36-ELECTRONIC DISTRIB. OF REPORTS/NOTICES                                                                      
10:13:18 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE  called the committee  back to order  and announced                                                               
the consideration of SB 36.                                                                                                     
10:13:37 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR CATHY  GIESSEL, Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor  of SB                                                               
36, related that  SB 36 would save the state  $500,000 a year and                                                               
it would  also save local  governments money. It  costs Anchorage                                                               
$25,000 to publish  their annual notice of  foreclosures and from                                                               
$50,000 to  $80,000 to publish  notice documents. The  bill would                                                               
allow  municipalities and  the state  to use  electronic noticing                                                               
for those publications.                                                                                                         
She said the bill has  been previously offered and the opposition                                                               
brought up  the amount of  money they  would lose. She  asked the                                                               
committee to consider the budget climate.                                                                                       
10:15:26 AM                                                                                                                   
JANE CONWAY,  Staff, Senator  Giessel, Alaska  State Legislature,                                                               
provided an overview of SB 36 on behalf of the sponsor:                                                                         
     Section 1  grants municipalities the authority  to pass                                                                    
     an  ordinance  that  will allow  electronic  notice  to                                                                    
     taxpayers   on  the   municipality's  public   Internet                                                                    
     website instead of newspaper  publication of the amount                                                                    
     of state  aid a  municipality receives and  the millage                                                                    
     Section  2   allows  a  municipality  to   meet  notice                                                                    
     requirements  by  posting   its  foreclosure  list  for                                                                    
     delinquent taxes on  the municipality's public Internet                                                                    
     Section 3 allows a  municipality to electronically post                                                                    
     notice   that    the   redemption    period   following                                                                    
     foreclosure  will  expire  in  30 days  on  its  public                                                                    
     Internet website.                                                                                                          
     Section 4  requires the lieutenant governor  to include                                                                    
     certain reports of state agencies  on the Alaska Online                                                                    
     Public Notice System.                                                                                                      
     Section 5  creates a  new article  requiring electronic                                                                    
     production and  distribution of  agency reports  if the                                                                    
     agency has  the technological  capability to do  so. It                                                                    
     requires that  reports must be  posted for one  year or                                                                    
     until superseded. It  creates exceptions where printing                                                                    
     is required by  other law, agreement or  when a printed                                                                    
     copy  is requested.  It allows  electronic distribution                                                                    
     to fulfill  any agency obligation to  publish, prepare,                                                                    
     present, or  submit a report.  It clarifies  that print                                                                    
     copies  of  reports may  be  requested  from a  library                                                                    
     distribution and  data access  center. It bars  a state                                                                    
     agency from hiring a  contractor to provide photographs                                                                    
     or graphics for a report,  unless no agency employee to                                                                    
     perform the work is available,  or the agency would use                                                                    
     fewer  state  resources  by  hiring  a  contractor.  It                                                                    
     defines "report" and "state agency."                                                                                       
10:17:48 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STOLTZE opened public testimony.                                                                                          
10:19:15 AM                                                                                                                   
ROBIN   WARD,   Acting    Director,   Real   Estate   Department,                                                               
Municipality of  Anchorage, testified  in support  of SB  36. She                                                               
voiced appreciation  for the  provisions in  the bill  that would                                                               
allow  all  municipalities  the  option  to  publish  foreclosure                                                               
notices on  line in a local  new publication. She said  many more                                                               
property  owners are  accessing online  notices. She  pointed out                                                               
savings to  the municipality  from the passage  of the  bill. She                                                               
noted the cost gets passed down to the property owner.                                                                          
10:21:24 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  pointed out that  lower-income constituents                                                               
sometimes don't have  computers or access to  computers. He asked                                                               
what parts of town the printed notices were going to.                                                                           
MS. WARD said  it depends on who  has the lowest bid  for a local                                                               
newspaper distribution.                                                                                                         
10:23:00 AM                                                                                                                   
LINDA THIBODEAU,  Director, Division of Libraries,  Archives, and                                                               
Museums, Department  of Education  and Early  Development (DEED),                                                               
presented  information  related to  SB  36.  She said  the  state                                                               
library  that  is referenced  in  Sections  4  and  5 is  in  the                                                               
division. The  bill works  for the  state library  and mechanisms                                                               
are   already  in   place  to   distribute  notices   to  patrons                                                               
electronically or in print through inter-library loan.                                                                          
CHAIR STOLTZE added that it is an access point for the public.                                                                  
SENATOR  COGHILL   noted  the   cultural  change   to  electronic                                                               
postings. He  asked if there is  a way of tracking  the number of                                                               
MS. THIBODEAU  replied that they  see a  lot of access  to online                                                               
state  documents.  She said  she  could  get the  percentages  of                                                               
SENATOR COGHILL addressed a concern with a new system of access.                                                                
10:25:10 AM                                                                                                                   
MS. THIBODEAU  specified that Sections 1  - 3 of the  bill do not                                                               
related to the state library; only Sections 4 and 5 do.                                                                         
CHAIR STOLTZE  speculated that the  viewers are those  looking at                                                               
others' property, not their own.                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE questioned the fiscal note.                                                                                       
10:26:35 AM                                                                                                                   
CRAIG KAHKLEN,  Policy Analyst, Office of  Budget and Management,                                                               
Office of the  Governor, answered questions related to  SB 36. He                                                               
explained that  the fiscal note  shows a savings of  $450,000 but                                                               
does not  include one department's  information, so the  total is                                                               
closer to $500,000.                                                                                                             
SENATOR  COGHILL asked  if  information will  be  added to  their                                                               
existing platform.                                                                                                              
MR. KAHKLEN  said the  plan is to  use the  Lieutenant Governor's                                                               
electronic distribution system.                                                                                                 
SENATOR  COGHILL wondered  if the  information would  be easy  to                                                               
10:28:33 AM                                                                                                                   
RUSTAN BURTON, Publisher, Juneau  Empire, testified in opposition                                                               
to SB 36. He discussed the  contrasting issues SB 36 provides for                                                               
the  Juneau  Empire;  public notices  and  profit.  He  addressed                                                               
Section  4 that  deals  with administrative  documents, which  he                                                               
said he  does not take  issue with  except for the  definition of                                                               
"public."   He  said   he  does   have  concerns   about  posting                                                               
municipality legal  notices online. He maintained  that a website                                                               
would not be a good venue  for those. He shared information about                                                               
legislation  in  other  states  that tried  to  deal  with  legal                                                               
notices, all of  which failed. He maintained that  the public has                                                               
a right to know what their  government is doing and those notices                                                               
belong in  newspapers. People do  not access  government websites                                                               
for information.                                                                                                                
10:33:30 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. BURTON  addressed data  from New  Jersey that  showed posting                                                               
notices online would  not save money and does  not provide third-                                                               
party oversight. He  concluded that lack of public  access is the                                                               
most  important  reason to  not  publish  public notices  online.                                                               
Newspapers are good at mass media.                                                                                              
10:37:22 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  COGHILL  commented  that newspapers  are  becoming  more                                                               
electronic. He  asked about the  notification process  for online                                                               
public notices and if they would be easy to access.                                                                             
MR. BURTON answered that depends  on available resources. He said                                                               
very few people  spend much time on those pages;  print is easier                                                               
to browse for notices. He stressed that print is not dying.                                                                     
10:40:01 AM                                                                                                                   
KATHIE  WASSERMAN, Executive  Director, Alaska  Municipal League,                                                               
testified  in support  of  SB  36. She  noted  the bill  provides                                                               
choices for notification for  municipalities. She maintained that                                                               
newspapers need to react to concerns of their residents.                                                                        
CHAIR  STOLTZE left  public  testimony  open and  held  SB 36  in                                                               

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB36 ver A.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 Sectional Summary by Legislative Legal Services.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 Fiscal Note-OOG-OMB-2-9-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 Supporting Documents - Letters Municipalities 2-10-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 Supporting Document OMB 2-11-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
DOA Dept Overview-SSTA 02-12-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
Department of Administration
SB36 (Replacement) Fiscal Note-OOG-OMB-2-13-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 Supporting Document - Alaska Newspaper Circulation.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
DOA Commissioner Responses to 2-12 SSTA Overview Questions - 2-26-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
DOTPF Responses to SSTA 2-12-15 Questions on Deferred Maint.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB36 Letter Older Persons Action Group 2-10-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 MOA Answers to Committee Questions 2-27-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 Municipality of Anchorage - Answers Re Foreclosure Cost Charges & Printing 3-19-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 Opposition Document - Email Louise Bauman 4-19-15.pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36
SB36 Response MOA Real Estate Dept 3-10-15 .pdf SSTA 2/12/2015 9:00:00 AM
SB 36