Legislature(2005 - 2006)BELTZ 211

02/28/2006 03:30 PM STATE AFFAIRS


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03:37:28 PM Start
03:37:42 PM HB167
03:55:22 PM Adjourn
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*+ SB 279 OPERATING BUDGET MISSIONS/DESIRED RESULTS TELECONFERENCED
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+ HB 167 DECEASED VETERAN DEATH CERTIFICATE/HONOR TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                       February 28, 2006                                                                                        
                           3:37 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gene Therriault, Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                         
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas Wagoner, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 167(STA) am                                                                                               
"An Act relating to providing  a death certificate for a deceased                                                               
veteran  without cost;  and relating  to a  program to  honor the                                                               
memory of a deceased veteran."                                                                                                  
     HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 279                                                                                                             
"An Act  relating to missions  and desired results to  be applied                                                               
to  certain  expenditures from  state  operating  budgets by  the                                                               
executive  branch  of  state government  and  the  University  of                                                               
Alaska  and  by the  judicial  branch  of state  government;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
     BILL POSTPONED                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 167                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: DECEASED VETERAN DEATH CERTIFICATE/HONOR                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): MILITARY & VETERANS' AFFAIRS                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
02/22/05       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/22/05       (H)       MLV, STA                                                                                               
03/17/05       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 124                                                                             
03/17/05       (H)       Moved CSHB 167(MLV) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/17/05       (H)       MINUTE(MLV)                                                                                            
03/18/05       (H)       MLV RPT CS(MLV) 5DP                                                                                    
03/18/05       (H)       DP: THOMAS, GRUENBERG, CISSNA, ELKINS,                                                                 
                         LYNN                                                                                                   
03/21/05       (H)       FIN REFERRAL ADDED AFTER STA                                                                           
04/12/05       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
04/12/05       (H)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
04/14/05       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
04/14/05       (H)       Moved CSHB 167(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/14/05       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
04/15/05       (H)       STA RPT CS(STA) NT 6DP                                                                                 
04/15/05       (H)       DP: GARDNER, LYNN, GRUENBERG, RAMRAS,                                                                  
                         ELKINS, SEATON                                                                                         
04/25/05       (H)       FIN AT 1:30 PM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
04/25/05       (H)       Moved CSHB 167(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/25/05       (H)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/26/05       (H)       FIN RPT CS(STA) NT 6DP 3NR                                                                             
04/26/05       (H)       DP: HAWKER, MOSES, WEYHRAUCH, FOSTER,                                                                  
                        MEYER, CHENAULT;                                                                                        
04/26/05       (H)       NR: HOLM, JOULE, KELLY                                                                                 
04/29/05       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
04/29/05       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 167(STA) AM                                                                              
05/01/05       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
05/01/05       (S)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
02/28/06       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Alaska State Capitol                                                                                                            
Juneau, AK  99801-1182                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Introduced HB 167                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
Alaska State Capitol                                                                                                            
Juneau, AK  99801-1182                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information on HB 167                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
John Cramer, Director                                                                                                           
Administrative Services Division                                                                                                
Department of Military & Veterans                                                                                               
  Affairs                                                                                                                       
PO Box 5800                                                                                                                     
Ft. Richardson, AK 99505-0800                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information on HB 167                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Philip Mitchell, State Registrar                                                                                                
Department of Health &                                                                                                          
  Social Services                                                                                                               
PO Box 110601                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK  99801-0601                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information on HB 167                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GENE  THERRIAULT called the  Senate State  Affairs Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to  order at 3:37:28 PM.  Present were Senators                                                             
Bettye Davis, Charlie Huggins and Chair Gene Therriault.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
    CSHB 167(STA)AM-DECEASED VETERAN DEATH CERTIFICATE/HONOR                                                                
                                                                                                                              
3:37:42 PM                                                                                                                  
CHAIR  THERRIAULT announced  HB  167  to be  the  first order  of                                                               
business.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BOB LYNN, Chair of  the House Special Committee on                                                               
Military and Special  Affairs, stated that HB 167  sends a signal                                                               
that Alaska supports its troops.  It provides that when a veteran                                                               
passes away eligible family members  receive, free of charge, one                                                               
copy  of the  certified death  certificate  and one  copy of  the                                                               
Governor's Memorial Certificate. The latter  is a program that is                                                               
modeled after  the Presidential Memorial Certificate  Program and                                                               
acknowledges the State's appreciation  for the deceased veteran's                                                               
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:39:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CHARLIE  HUGGINS  expressed  support for  the  bill  and                                                               
mentioned the fiscal note.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN said it's less that $1,000 per year.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT noted that the fiscal note is zero.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN responded it's actually indeterminate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  referenced page 3,  lines 4,5, and 6  and noted                                                               
that Alaska  Territorial Guard isn't  listed, but  the definition                                                               
of veteran under AS 26.10.080 includes that group.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN responded he would  be amenable to a friendly                                                               
amendment to include that group.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS moved to insert  Alaska Territorial Guard on page                                                               
3, line 4 after the word "force."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT found no objection  and announced that his staff                                                               
would  work  with the  drafter  to  determine  how it  should  be                                                               
inserted.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Referring  to   the  Health  and  Social   Services  fiscal  note                                                               
analysis,  he asked  if the  idea  is to  establish a  reasonable                                                               
limit to the number of  complementary copies that are provided to                                                               
the families.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  replied, establishing a reasonable  limit is                                                               
acceptable.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  questioned  how  many  certificates  would  be                                                               
reasonable.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS recommended it not exceed five.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN agreed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  recapped  the  discussion  for  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MAX  GRUENBERG directed attention to  page 2, line                                                               
23  and said  that each  eligible  member of  a veteran's  family                                                               
would receive a certificate and  it's for the purpose of applying                                                               
for death benefits.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  said his experience  is that  families typically                                                               
need  five copies  and  he would  suggest that  it  say, "not  to                                                               
exceed five."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG agreed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:48:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PHILIP MITCHELL, State Registrar with  the Department of Health &                                                               
Social Services, advised  that he helped prepare  the fiscal note                                                               
and that five was used in the calculations.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:50:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CRAMER, Director of the  Administrative Services Division of                                                               
the Department  of Military & Veterans  Affairs, stated agreement                                                               
with a  previous statement  that the  definition of  "veteran" is                                                               
given  in AS  26.10.080 and  it includes  the Alaska  Territorial                                                               
Guard.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  observed that  it's  confusing  that the  bill                                                               
doesn't  include the  Alaska  Territorial Guard  in  the list  of                                                               
veteran groups  being addressed yet the  Alaska Territorial Guard                                                               
is included  in the statutory  definition of "veteran,"  which is                                                               
referenced in another section of the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAMER suggested the reference  to Alaska Scouts is confusing                                                               
because  the   Alaska  Territorial   Guard  members   were  scout                                                               
battalions and  therefore the  Alaska Territorial  Guard includes                                                               
the Alaska Scouts.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked if  an Alaskan resident  who died                                                               
and wasn't yet retired would be covered.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  informed members  that you're  a veteran  on the                                                               
first day of service whether you're on active duty or not.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT announced  he would hold HB 167  in committee to                                                               
work with the drafters to:  delete reference to Alaska Scouts and                                                               
insert Alaska  Territorial Guard; limit  the number of  copies to                                                               
not exceed five;  and correlate the fiscal note to  the math that                                                               
was used.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  remarked the  drafters might  prefer to                                                               
use the term veteran with no specific references.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  said he'd  take that up  with the  drafters and                                                               
hopefully have a CS for the committee to consider soon.                                                                         
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Therriault adjourned the meeting at 3:55:22 PM.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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