Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

03/17/2008 03:30 PM RESOURCES


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03:37:37 PM Start
03:38:16 PM SB214
04:02:26 PM Board of Game Confirmation Hearings
05:17:45 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 214 HUNTING BY MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 214(RES) Out of Committee
Confirmation Hearings:
Board of Fisheries
Board of Game
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
-- Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
           SB 214-HUNTING BY MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY'                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
3:38:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HUGGINS announced SB 214 to be up for consideration.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JODY SIMPSON,  staff to Senator  Huggins, sponsor of SB  214, said                                                              
there was  a new  CS, version  E that  she hoped accomplished  the                                                              
goals of  the sponsor.  It provides for  military and  Coast Guard                                                              
members  and their  dependents,  it  waives the  12-month  waiting                                                              
period that is required  currently in statute for them  to be able                                                              
to pay resident  rates, it accords resident rate  fees for permits                                                              
and tags and  it addresses Senator McGuire's  concerns about going                                                              
back to  the original  language of  the bill.   This CS  does that                                                              
and  does it  without qualifying  them  under other  areas of  the                                                              
statute as residents. They are still defined as non-residents.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
It also  addresses Senator Wagoner's  concerns in that  it doesn't                                                              
open  up the  dip-netting  and personal  use  fisheries for  these                                                              
folks until  they have been here  for a year. An email  from Kevin                                                              
Saxby, Department  of Law (DOL),  confirms that. She said  it also                                                              
addresses  the  concerns  of  the   Alaska  Professional  Hunters'                                                              
Association and  others by retaining  the guide component  for the                                                              
three most dangerous species.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  said he appreciated  all the work that  went into                                                              
this  issue  and  he  asked if  this  would  include  the  uniform                                                              
military and the Corps of Engineers.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGGINS answered  yes  as they  are  a branch  of the  U.S.                                                              
Army.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  said he  was  thinking  of the  uniform  medical                                                              
corps in the BIA.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS said they are not covered by this bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
KRISTIN WRIGHT,  Supervisor, Finance Licensing,  Alaska Department                                                              
of Fish and  Game (ADF&G), relative to Senator  Stevens' question,                                                              
explained  that  the  BIA  and  other  groups,  if  they  are  not                                                              
considered  as  part   of  the  military  on  a   certain  federal                                                              
register, they are not considered military.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS said  his  concern  is that  the  Coast Guard  is                                                              
under  the  Department   of  Homeland  Security   and  it's  their                                                              
intention to cover them.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS said  they are covered specifically in  the bill. He                                                              
asked  if Ms.  Wright  saw any  challenges  in administering  this                                                              
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. WRIGHT answered no.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if someone from  ADF&G could  comment                                                              
on whether this  legislation would impact the numbers  of fish and                                                              
wildlife available to residents.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. WRIGHT  answered they  already pay the  resident rate  for the                                                              
fishing license  now, but  at issue is  the hunting  license. Very                                                              
few  have participated  in hunting,  but it's  possible that  more                                                              
military might  hunt under  this bill  because the licenses  would                                                              
cost less than what  they would have been paying.  The fiscal note                                                              
would always be a guess.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said he supports  the bill, but they  have a                                                              
constitutional  obligation  to mandate  for  sustainable  resource                                                              
and  that's what  he's getting  at.  He asked  if she  anticipated                                                              
that  these provisions  would have  a significant  impact on  that                                                              
mandate.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. WRIGHT  replied that  these people  would still be  considered                                                              
non-residents  and   wouldn't  be  able  to  participate   in  the                                                              
personal  use   fisheries  until   they  have  met   the  one-year                                                              
residency requirement. They are already doing that.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:44:42 PM                                                                                                                    
KEVIN SAXBY,  Department of  Law (DOL), said  he was  available to                                                              
answer questions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE joined the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:45:24 PM                                                                                                                    
FRANK  BISHOP,  combat  veteran,   Kodiak,  said  he  had  been  a                                                              
resident of  Alaska for the  past 37 years  and he  disagreed with                                                              
SB 214. He  thought they were trying  to make a special  status of                                                              
citizen. At  the present time all  the military are  voluntary and                                                              
this  would have  a drastic  impact on  the economy  of the  local                                                              
population that makes their living from non-residents.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS  said requiring a guide  for the big species  in the                                                              
first year  would continue,  so you still  need a guide  for brown                                                              
bear and  goat hunting. The other  part is that the  difference in                                                              
some  of the  professions and  vocations is  that military  people                                                              
are sent  here on  orders; it  may be  they want  to come  or they                                                              
don't want to come,  but they don't have a choice.  A lot of young                                                              
men and  women are  coming to Alaska  for a  matter of  months and                                                              
then shipping out  to Iraq or Afghanistan, and some  of them don't                                                              
come  back. He  characterized it  as  being good  hosts for  young                                                              
people  who  are  really  making   a  sacrifice  for  the  country                                                              
potentially.  He  concluded  by  thanking  him for  his  years  of                                                              
service in being a combat veteran.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:49:01 PM                                                                                                                    
BOBBY  FITHIAN,  Professional Hunters  Association,  supported  SB                                                              
214,  version E.  He  said they  appreciated  the sponsor  working                                                              
with them to  delete sections 2  and 3 that dealt with  the guide-                                                              
required species.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:49:54 PM                                                                                                                    
BRUCE  KNOWLES,  representing  himself,   Mat-Su,  said  he  is  a                                                              
disable veteran  and he loved this  bill. He said that  people who                                                              
don't understand  the military and  those who have been  away from                                                              
it  for   years  cannot  understand   today's  military   and  the                                                              
sacrifices these people  are making. He has a son  in the military                                                              
and he said,  "These people deserve everything we  can give them."                                                              
The fact  that they won't be  able to participate in  the personal                                                              
use fisheries is short sighted, but that's how it worked out.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:50:51 PM                                                                                                                    
TOM LOGAN,  representing himself, Big  Lake, supported SB  214. He                                                              
related that  he had personal experience  with this issue.  He was                                                              
transferred by the  military to Alaska quite a few  years ago, and                                                              
the  second day  he  was here  he  bought a  non-resident  hunting                                                              
license  and didn't  sign in  to his base  for 10  days. The  next                                                              
year he  used his  non-resident  hunting license  to show  that he                                                              
had been  in Alaska over  a year, although  it was a year  and two                                                              
days, and  bought a  regular hunting license.  ADF&G tried  to say                                                              
"no" because  the military said he  didn't get here until  10 days                                                              
later. The  department didn't  want to accept  his old  license as                                                              
proof that he had been in Alaska 10 days before.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOGAN said a  lot of other young men did  the same thing; they                                                              
came  up early  and  hunted on  a  non-resident  license and  then                                                              
wound up  paying a  fine because they  couldn't document  they had                                                              
been here ahead of time.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:53:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS moved  to  adopt CSSB  214(RES),  version E,  for                                                              
discussion  purposes.  There were  no  objections  and  it was  so                                                              
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:54:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  moved to  report CSSB  214(RES), version  E, from                                                              
committee with  individual recommendations and zero  fiscal notes.                                                              
There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                 

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