Legislature(2017 - 2018)BUTROVICH 205

04/03/2017 08:00 AM EDUCATION

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+ HB 64 READING PROFICIENCY TASK FORCE; DYSLEXIA TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SCR 5 ALASKA READS DAY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 96 EDUCATION:SCHOOLS/TEACHERS/FUNDING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
         HB 64-READING PROFICIENCY TASK FORCE; DYSLEXIA                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
                 [Contains discussion of SB 27]                                                                                 
8:15:28 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE  CHAIR GIESSEL  announced that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would be HB 64 [CSHB 64 (EDC)].                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:15:40 AM                                                                                                                    
KRISTIN  KRANENDONK,  Staff,   Representative  Harriet  Drummond,                                                               
Alaska  State  Legislature, presented  HB  64  on behalf  of  the                                                               
sponsor. She thanked Senator Dunleavy  for bringing this issue to                                                               
their attention. She read from the sponsor statement:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     HB  64  establishes  a fifteen  member  task  force  on                                                                    
     reading proficiency  and instruction  with the  goal of                                                                    
     making recommendations regarding  reading practices for                                                                    
     students across the state. The  task force will examine                                                                    
     how  current  regulations  affect  reading  proficiency                                                                    
     outcomes with the goal  of increasing statewide reading                                                                    
     proficiency scores within three years.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Approximately 47,000  students in  Alaska did  not meet                                                                    
     state standards  in 2015. Students  who cannot  read by                                                                    
     third grade are  four times more likely to  drop out of                                                                    
     school than those  who can read. More  than $60 billion                                                                    
     is lost annually in  American business productivity due                                                                    
     to a lack  of basic reading skills.  The statistics are                                                                    
     staggering   and   we  must   identify   evidence-based                                                                    
     approaches   to   instructing  students   affected   by                                                                    
     dyslexia.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The  fifteen  member task  force  will  consist of  six                                                                    
     members,  three  from  the House  and  three  from  the                                                                    
     Senate,  the Commissioner  of  Department of  Education                                                                    
     and  Early Development  (DEED) (non-voting  member), an                                                                    
     active   or  retired   K-3  teacher   with  significant                                                                    
     experience teaching  reading, a member from  either the                                                                    
     Association  of  Alaska  School Boards  or  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Council    of   School    Administrators,   a    member                                                                    
     representing  the  Alaska   Association  of  Elementary                                                                    
     School   Principals,   a    member   representing   the                                                                    
     University  of  Alaska,  and four  member  representing                                                                    
     non-profit organizations  that focus on  issues related                                                                    
     to reading, including  one member who is  a parent with                                                                    
     a child who has a reading disability.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:16:42 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. KRANENDONK said the task force  will meet between six and ten                                                               
times a  year and will submit  a report to the  governor and DEED                                                               
by January 1, 2018. All  meetings will be done electronically and                                                               
there will  be no travel  reimbursements; there is a  zero fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:17:41 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS asked how the task force will know if the                                                                       
regulations will affect outcomes.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:18:03 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. KRANENDONK replied that the goal  of the task force is to get                                                               
educators  at  the table  with  legislators  to discuss  what  is                                                               
working now and seek ways to  use those successes with more kids.                                                               
There is no  tracking mechanism in the bill because  it would add                                                               
a fiscal note.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS opined that tracking outcomes is key.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:18:44 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL  suggested talking to stakeholders  about whether                                                               
or not  there have been  reports or  efforts that have  looked at                                                               
reading proficiency scores.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:19:31 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KRANENDONK   believed  there   was  a  lot   of  information                                                               
available. The  task force will  bring that  information together                                                               
to find ways of helping teachers in the classroom.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:20:24 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE  CHAIR GIESSEL  suggested  that  Ms. Boggs  may  be able  to                                                               
address Senator Coghill's question.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL restated his question.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
POSEY   BOGGS,  Member,   Alaska   Reading  Coalition,   answered                                                               
questions related  to SB 64.  She responded  that they do  know a                                                               
lot about  reading proficiency  in Alaska and  have looked  at it                                                               
through the  National Assessment of Educational  Progress (NAEP),                                                               
Standards  Based Assessment  (SBA),  and the  Alaska Measures  of                                                               
Progress   (AMP),  which   all  showed   that  Alaska's   reading                                                               
proficiency has been stagnant going  back decades. Results showed                                                               
that  some of  the best  students require  remedial reading  when                                                               
starting college.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
She stated that  children who are incarcerated  have trouble with                                                               
reading. People  have worked hard  on this  issue, but it  is not                                                               
improving. Some districts are still very low, or average.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:24:02 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  BOGGS said  the issues  in Alaska  mirror other  states. One                                                               
issue is, if  teachers in K-3 do not  have foundational knowledge                                                               
about  teaching  reading,  students  will not  be  successful  at                                                               
reading.  Skilled   teachers  of  reading  do   matter  regarding                                                               
outcomes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
She  sees the  task force  as recommending  what can  be done  to                                                               
increase and fix the reading problem in the state.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  said  it  lends  itself  to  a  debate  on  the                                                               
methodology of teaching reading. He  asked if the task force will                                                               
be  able to  address the  philosophical and  political issues  in                                                               
this area.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:25:53 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  BOGGS   hoped  that  they  would   consider  the  scientific                                                               
evidence. She emphasized that it is not just about phonics.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL thought  it would be interesting to  see what the                                                               
university thinks about it.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:27:30 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BEGICH sees the task force  as a group that will assemble                                                               
all the data, look  at all the issues, and have  a goal to create                                                               
a systemic view of how to teach reading in Alaska.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. KRANENDONK  said yes.  The task force  is the  starting place                                                               
and the report will not be  the conclusion of the task force. The                                                               
process   will  continue   through  2018   to  ensure   that  the                                                               
recommendations  are  working and  having  an  impact on  reading                                                               
scores  for all  readers  in  the state,  but  not just  dyslexic                                                               
students. Changing  the way to look  at dyslexia is a  good place                                                               
to start.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:29:22 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BEGICH called  all the information about  reading "a mess                                                               
of information."  He saw an  advantage of a systemic  approach to                                                               
reading, the compilation  of a report or road  map, and following                                                               
up on the recommendations. He stated that HB 64 merits support.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:30:54 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR  GIESSEL referred  to a document  of AMP  results from                                                               
the spring  of 2015.  She asked if  it comes  from Representative                                                               
Drummond's office.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRANENDONK  said  yes.  She  explained  that  they  got  the                                                               
information from NAACP who pulled it off the DEED website.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR GIESSEL  noted the document is from  DEED and includes                                                               
grades  3-10). It  shows,  in meeting  the  standards in  English                                                               
language skills,  that the scores go  from 35 percent at  grade 3                                                               
to  28 percent  at grade  10. For  the category,  partially meets                                                               
standards,  the scores  go  from 65  percent at  grade  3 and  it                                                               
improves  somewhat by  grade 10.  These  scores substantiate  the                                                               
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
She  requested  a  comparison between  Representative  Drummond's                                                               
bill, which adds dyslexia, and Senator Dunleavy's bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. KRANENDONK related that  Representative Drummond made several                                                               
changes and they worked with  Senator Dunleavy's office regarding                                                               
all of them. She compared  Representative Drummond's bill, HB 64,                                                               
and Senator Dunleavy's bill, SB 27:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1:  lines 11-12 Language was  changed to recognize                                                                
     the work  the state is  doing for students  while still                                                                  
     acknowledging that it could be improved                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
     Page 2,  line 27  Section C was  added to  examine what                                                                
     education reforms have already  been implemented and to                                                                  
     look at why those changes have worked or not                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     Page 2, line  27 - Page 3, line 2  Language was changed                                                              
     in  this section  to clear  up  the scope  of the  task                                                                  
     force                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     Page 4,  line 1 Allows  one member to  represent either                                                                
     the  Association  of  Alaska School  Boards  or  Alaska                                                                  
     Council of School Administrators                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
     Page 4,  lines 4-5 Removed language  having a nonvoting                                                                
     judge as a  member of the task force  and replaced that                                                                  
     member   representing   the   Alaska   Association   of                                                                  
     Elementary School Principals                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     Page  4,  line 13  Changed  language  to recognize  all                                                                
     nonprofit   organizations   focused  on   reading   and                                                                  
     education  issues and  included language  to ensure  at                                                                  
     least one of those members is  also a parent of a child                                                                  
     with a reading disability                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     Page 4, line 31 A definition of dyslexia was added                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRANENDONK  explained that  they  worked  with a  number  of                                                               
organizations that deal with dyslexia in  order to come up with a                                                               
definition. They chose  not to do the DSM definition  that is put                                                               
on IEPs  because of the  way it is  worded. They know  that there                                                               
are  some   undiagnosed  students  with  dyslexia   and  the  DSM                                                               
definition requires an IEP first,  before a student can be termed                                                               
dyslexic.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
She  understood  that  Senator  Dunleavy  was  ok  with  all  the                                                               
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:35:59 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE  CHAIR  GIESSEL   asked  Ms.  Boggs  to   elaborate  on  the                                                               
definition of dyslexia.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:36:17 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  BOGGS agreed  with  the  definition in  HB  64 because  most                                                               
dyslexic children  are not diagnosed.  The DSM  definition leaves                                                               
out the  majority of those  children who are undiagnosed  and are                                                               
in the regular classroom. The definition  in HB 54 comes from the                                                               
Arkansas dyslexia bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:37:24 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR  GIESSEL asked how  long the Alaska  Reading Coalition                                                               
(ARC) has been in place.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOGGS explained that ARC, which  is made up of the NAACP, the                                                               
Alaska   branch  of   the  International   Dyslexia  Association,                                                               
Decoding Dyslexia Alaska, Literate  Nation Alaska, and the Alaska                                                               
Literacy Program,  as well as  a dozen private tutors,  have been                                                               
in existence for  about 24 months. Their depth  of knowledge goes                                                               
back a  long way. The  Alaska International  Dyslexia Association                                                               
has been in Alaska since 2009.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:39:02 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE  CHAIR GIESSEL  said the  Senate  bill spells  out that  the                                                               
Alaska Reading Coalition is also a member.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:39:44 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. KRANENDONK responded that they  worked with Legislative Legal                                                               
on this section. The Alaska  Reading Coalition is not an official                                                               
member  of  the  coalition  because they  are  not  a  recognized                                                               
501(c)(3).  They are  working  closely with  all  members of  the                                                               
Alaska Reading Coalition.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:40:47 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR GIESSEL appreciated the inclusion of a parent.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:41:03 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL referred to a  document from December 2015. There                                                               
was no mention about who wrote it.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He  wished to  become  more informed  on  dyslexia and  suggested                                                               
hearing more about it before moving the bill.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:42:18 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. KRANENDONK  said she would  provide that and there  will also                                                               
be further information on dyslexia during public testimony.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:42:48 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE  CHAIR GIESSEL  noted  the  state is  behind  in reading  in                                                               
Alaska.  The founders  identified  three  reasons for  education,                                                               
reading, mathematics, and the basic understanding of religion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR GIESSEL held HB 64 in committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:43:42 AM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR GIESSEL recessed to the call of the chair.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 64 Letter of Support Decoding Dyslexia.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB 64 Letter of Support MGingras.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB 64 Letter of Support Kilpatrick.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB 64 Letter of Support Reading Write.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB 64 Public Support Additional Documents.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB 64 Sponsor.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB64 CT_reading_plan.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB64 Fiscal Note LEG-COU-O2-23-17.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB64 Letter of Support Council on Disabilities.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB64 Letter of Support IDA.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB64 Letter of Support NAACP.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
CS HB64.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB 64 Additional Letters of Support.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB 64 AMP Results.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
HB 64 Invited Testimony Elfman Mollenkopt.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
HB 64
SCR 5 - Supporting Document - PBS Article.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SCR 5
SCR 5 - Legislation Ver. A.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SCR 5
SCR 5 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SCR 5
SCR 5 - Supporting Document - Annie E. Casey--Early Literacy.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SCR 5
SCR 5 - Supporting Document - Condoleezza Letter.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SCR 5
SCR 5 - Supporting Document - Data Summary.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SCR 5
SB 96 - Supporting Document - PSTF 4.75% POMV 10 Year Lookback.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Supporting Document - Dep. of Law Molly Hootch Opinion.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Supporting Document - AASB Written Testimony.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Public Comment - Robert Picou.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Consolidated Public Comment 3.30.2017.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Public Comment - Allen McCarty.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Public Comment - Amy Lujan.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Public Comment - Anchorage School District.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Public Comment - ASD Talking Points.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Supporting Documents - 2017 School Capacity.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Opposing Document - Teamsters Local 959 Letter and Back-up Material.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Public Comment Jonathan Crocker.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Public Comment Lance Roberts.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Public Comment Melodie Wright.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Draft CS Ver. M.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96
SB 96 - Explanation of Changes - Ver. T to M.pdf SEDC 4/3/2017 8:00:00 AM
SB 96