Legislature(2017 - 2018)GRUENBERG 120

02/18/2017 11:00 AM STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 44 LEGISLATIVE ETHICS: VOTING & CONFLICTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 13 NO ST/MUNI FUNDS: FED IMMIGRAT REGISTRY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 20 SOLEMNIZE MARRIAGE: ELECTED OFFICIALS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 20(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HCR 5 UNIFORM RULES: COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHCR 5(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
          HCR 5-UNIFORM RULES: COMMITTEE ON COMMITTEES                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:09:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  announced that  the next order  of business                                                               
would  be  HOUSE  CONCURRENT  RESOLUTION   NO.  5,  Proposing  an                                                               
amendment to  the Uniform Rules  of the Alaska  State Legislature                                                               
relating to the membership of the Committee on Committees.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  opened public  testimony on  HCR 5.   After                                                               
ascertaining  that there  was no  one who  wished to  testify, he                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:11:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KNOPP  moved  to adopt  Conceptual  Amendment  1,                                                               
labeled 30-LS0359\A.1,  which read as follows  [with hand written                                                               
changes]:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 12, following "committee":                                                                                    
          Insert "and the Committee on Committees"                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP relayed that  Conceptual Amendment 1 inserts                                                               
"the Committee on  Committees" to make that  committee subject to                                                               
the proportional rule, like the standing committees.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  asked for testimony from  Legislative Legal                                                               
and  Research   Services  regarding   the  merit   of  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:13:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DOUG GARDNER,  Director, Legislative Legal  Services, Legislative                                                               
Affairs Agency, conveyed his understanding  that of the intent of                                                               
HCR 5  is to make Uniform  Rule 1(e) conform to  recent practices                                                               
by the House.  He said  that although Uniform Rule 1 provides for                                                               
the Speaker of  the House to select five members  to serve on the                                                               
Committee  on   Committees,  membership  on  the   committee  has                                                               
generally been  five majority members  and two  minority members.                                                               
He said that  if the intent is to change  the committee selection                                                               
practice so  that seven  members are put  on the  committee, then                                                               
the amendment he prepared does that with certainty.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:15:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KNOPP explained  that he  modified the  amendment                                                               
drafted by  Mr. Gardner by deleting  lines 2 and 3,  thus leaving                                                               
the  phrase "at  least  five  members" in  Section  1  of HCR  5,                                                               
subsection (e),  beginning on  line 6.   He  added that  the only                                                               
change proposed  by Conceptual  Amendment 1  is the  insertion of                                                               
"and the Committee  on Committees" after the  word "committee" on                                                               
line 12 of Section 1, subsection (e), of HCR 5.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GARDNER stated  that if  the proposal  before the  committee                                                               
leaves the membership of the  Committee on Committees at five and                                                               
makes it subject to proportional  representation, then the number                                                               
of  minority  members  on  the  Committee  on  Committees  simply                                                               
depends on the size of the minority.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GARDNER   offered  that  under   HCR  5,   the  proportional                                                               
representation  of   the  minority   could  be   determined  with                                                               
certainty; however,  there would be  no certainty provided  as to                                                               
the  number  of members  on  the  Committee  on Committees.    He                                                               
offered that  the Speaker of  the House could choose  to populate                                                               
the committee with  five, seven, or even nine members.   He added                                                               
that  if flexibility  is what  the House  State Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee wants, then  HCR 5 and Conceptual  Amendment 1 together                                                               
would provide that.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:17:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TUCK asked  for  confirmation that  if there  was                                                               
less than  25 percent  minority status [in  the House],  then the                                                               
majority would not have to  recognize anyone from the minority to                                                               
be on the Committee on Committees.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. GARDNER  replied that  is correct.   He  added that  once the                                                               
size of  the minority in the  House drops below ten  in any given                                                               
year, it would  not be a legally  cognizable minority; therefore,                                                               
it would not have membership on the Committee on Committees.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK asserted that  the Committee on Committees is                                                               
such  an important  committee, because  it establishes  all other                                                               
committees  and the  membership to  those other  committees.   He                                                               
said  that  traditionally  there  has been  a  minimum  [minority                                                               
representation]  of  two.   He  added  that he  likes  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1, because it follows a  structure for five or more and                                                               
stays  consistent  with  [standing] committee  composition.    He                                                               
offered that if  at some point there is a  very small minority in                                                               
the  House, such  as eight  or less,  he would  like a  "minimum"                                                               
provision  so that  the  Committee on  Committees  does not  just                                                               
consist of  majority members with  the minority having  no voice.                                                               
He suggested  that in this  situation, a minimum  provision would                                                               
be the  only opportunity for  the minority to  have a voice.   He                                                               
stated support of Conceptual Amendment  1, but said he would like                                                               
to see  a minimum of two  [minority members] on the  Committee on                                                               
Committees.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  removed his  objection  to  the motion  to                                                               
adopt Conceptual Amendment 1.   There being no further objection,                                                               
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK asked  for an at ease to  draft an additional                                                               
amendment,  if  the sponsor  of  HCR  5  is agreeable  to  having                                                               
minimum minority representation [on  the Committee on Committees]                                                               
regardless of its membership in the House.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  opined that Representative Tuck  raised a                                                               
valid  point.    He  said   that  in  his  research  on  minority                                                               
representation in  the House and  the Senate going back  to 1975,                                                               
he  found that  there were  times  in which  the minority  caucus                                                               
constituted  less  than  25 percent  of  the  Senate  membership;                                                               
therefore, the  minority caucus was not  an officially recognized                                                               
caucus.   He  said  that in  a number  of  those situations,  the                                                               
presiding officer  determined that minority  representation would                                                               
be  included on  the  Committee on  Committees,  even though  the                                                               
Uniform Rules  did not require  it.   He stated his  concern that                                                               
requiring  the  Committee  on  Committees   to  follow  the  same                                                               
prescription  as  the  standing   committees  would  remove  that                                                               
flexibility for  the presiding officer.   He added that  if there                                                               
was no minority caucus, the  presiding officer would not have the                                                               
opportunity  to recognize  minority  members but  be required  to                                                               
only recognize members of the  majority caucus.  He expressed his                                                               
concern that  the minority inadvertently  might be  excluded from                                                               
the Committee on Committees.  He  stated that he does not have an                                                               
objection   to  the   intent  of   the  amendment   suggested  by                                                               
Representative Tuck.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:21:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at ease at 11:21 p.m.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:22:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TUCK  said  that  to  insert  a  minority  member                                                               
requirement  for  the  Committee   on  Committees  into  Rule  1,                                                               
subsection (e), of the Uniform  Rules, the minority would have to                                                               
be  recognized, and  a minority  would  not be  recognized if  it                                                               
constitutes less  than 25  percent of the  House membership.   He                                                               
expressed that he didn't know how  to craft language to allow the                                                               
appointment  of a  minority member.   He  suggested that  perhaps                                                               
language  stating the  appointment of  "a member  other than  the                                                               
majority" would  achieve his desired  results.  He added  that he                                                               
would coordinate with the bill sponsor  on this issue in the next                                                               
committee to which HCR 5 is assigned.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:23:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK  moved to  report HCR 5,  as amended,  out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.    There  being no  objection,  CSHCR  5(STA)  was                                                               
reported from the House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB020 Alaska Family Action Letter of Opposition 2.17.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 20
HB013 Hearing Request 1.26.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13
HB13 Sponsor Statement 1.26.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13
HB0013 ver A 1.26.17.PDF HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13
HB0013 Draft Proposed CS ver J 1.26.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13
HB13 Explanation of Changes 1.30.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13
HB044 Sponsor Statement 1.23.2017.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 44
HB044 Sectional Anaylsis 2.17.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 44
HB0044 CS for Sponsor Substitute Ver U 2.17.17.PDF HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 44
HB044 Sponsor Substitute ver O 1.23.17.PDF HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 44
HB44 Fiscal Note AL 1.25.2017.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 44
HB044 supporting document-AKPIRG Support Letter 1.23.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 44
HB044 Supporting Document-LWV 1.27.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 44
HB044 Supporting Document- Nees ltr to Jason Green re HB44 2.1.2017.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 44
HB020 Proposed Amendment A.1 2.17.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 20
HCR005 Proposed Amendment A.1 2.16.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HCR 5
HB013 Fiscal Note 2.11.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13
HB 020 Letter of Support Joy Lutheran Church 2.17.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 20
HCR005 Fiscal Note 2.17.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HCR 5
HB13 Supporting Document - Timeline for Korematsu's Resolution 2.17.17.pdf HJUD 4/15/2017 10:00:00 AM
HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13
HB013 Supporting Document - Korematsu v US 2.17.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13
HB013 Supporting Document Constituent Letters 2.20.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13
HB13 Supporting Document - Research Document 3.7.17.pdf HSTA 2/18/2017 11:00:00 AM
HB 13